WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.020 Let's have a session, an intentional meeting. 00:00:02.100 --> 00:00:05.440 It's an appointment to go in behind that veil 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.380 that was torn into the very presence of God and 00:00:08.380 --> 00:00:12.720 meet with him. And the beautiful thing is that's 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.800 the place where we can just enter into his presence 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:20.420 and the very deepest places of our heart find 00:00:20.420 --> 00:00:32.079 what we are longing for. God promises in Joel 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:35.640 2 .28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity. 00:00:36.299 --> 00:00:39.380 Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:42.240 for that promised outpouring, and we equip for 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.799 that outpouring so that we may engage in that 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.200 very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:51.479 Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We're so 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.460 glad that you're with us. We have some very special 00:00:54.460 --> 00:00:57.759 guests today. Dave and Donna and Wes Brooks, 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:01.420 they formed the musical worship group called 00:01:01.420 --> 00:01:03.979 Three O 'Clock Session. And we're going to talk 00:01:03.979 --> 00:01:07.060 about finding what you're longing for in the 00:01:07.060 --> 00:01:14.569 deepest place of your heart. Thank you so much 00:01:14.569 --> 00:01:17.489 for joining us today. This is going to be a marvelous 00:01:17.489 --> 00:01:20.109 podcast that you are going to be blessed by. 00:01:20.209 --> 00:01:22.409 There's some wonderful things that we're going 00:01:22.409 --> 00:01:24.310 to be talking about. But before we get started, 00:01:24.450 --> 00:01:26.689 we want to encourage you, if you haven't already 00:01:26.689 --> 00:01:30.170 done so, that you go to our website, globaloutpouring 00:01:30.170 --> 00:01:33.420 .net. And make sure that you have signed up for 00:01:33.420 --> 00:01:36.319 our email list so that we can stay in touch with 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.859 you, keep you informed of what we're doing. And 00:01:38.859 --> 00:01:41.079 while you're there on our website, you can look 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.620 at our events tab. And especially right now, 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:48.060 look at that tab that talks about the Global 00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:51.620 Outpouring Convention 2025, St. Louis Airport 00:01:51.620 --> 00:01:54.700 Marriott, May 21st through 24th. We're going 00:01:54.700 --> 00:01:57.439 to have a glory time. Three o 'clock session 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.670 will be with us. And we're going to have such 00:02:00.670 --> 00:02:04.349 an amazing presence of the Lord in worship and 00:02:04.349 --> 00:02:07.250 intercession. The teaching that we're going to 00:02:07.250 --> 00:02:10.949 be receiving from Tony Kemp and Dean Braxton 00:02:10.949 --> 00:02:14.669 and Jeff Simons. Siggy Oblander is going to be 00:02:14.669 --> 00:02:17.949 our opening night speaker. Dr. Jean Little will 00:02:17.949 --> 00:02:20.800 be. bringing them a message about Israel, and 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:23.319 I'll be speaking as well. And we're going to 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:26.199 have a time in the presence of God that will 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:29.060 be life -changing. It's just something you got 00:02:29.060 --> 00:02:31.300 to get there for. You got to get there if you 00:02:31.300 --> 00:02:34.439 possibly can. So we encourage you, if you possibly 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.099 can come, please, please, please. It's going 00:02:37.099 --> 00:02:40.400 to be a family event. We have something for every 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.569 member of the family. nursery for the little 00:02:43.569 --> 00:02:46.629 ones and children's meetings and youth meetings 00:02:46.629 --> 00:02:50.830 and just an opportunity for every age to grow 00:02:50.830 --> 00:02:53.710 in the grace of God and to get closer to Him 00:02:53.710 --> 00:02:57.129 and learn how to move in the Spirit, learn how 00:02:57.129 --> 00:03:01.250 to hear the Holy Spirit and operate with Him 00:03:01.250 --> 00:03:04.490 in conjunction with Him. So we just want to encourage 00:03:04.490 --> 00:03:07.849 you, please, please pray into this and come if 00:03:07.849 --> 00:03:11.430 you possibly can. Well, we have with us today, 00:03:11.550 --> 00:03:13.990 three o 'clock session, Dave, Donna, and Wes 00:03:13.990 --> 00:03:16.689 Brooks. We are so delighted to have you with 00:03:16.689 --> 00:03:18.909 us. Thank you for joining us today. Honored to 00:03:18.909 --> 00:03:21.710 be with you. We're excited to be with you. Yeah. 00:03:22.409 --> 00:03:25.210 That's wonderful. That's wonderful. The Lord 00:03:25.210 --> 00:03:27.789 really has connected us in such a beautiful way. 00:03:28.110 --> 00:03:32.090 We heard you a little bit on probably YouTube 00:03:32.090 --> 00:03:35.310 or someplace watching some other kinds of events 00:03:35.310 --> 00:03:39.800 that we were taking in online. And then we met 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:43.960 you in Peru, I think it was. Not Peru the nation, 00:03:44.180 --> 00:03:48.039 but Peru, Illinois. Yeah. It was in the shopping 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:51.479 mall. Yes. Yes. During COVID when you weren't 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.099 supposed to be doing anything and we were doing 00:03:53.099 --> 00:03:56.280 it anyway. Hallelujah. It was beautiful. It was 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:59.479 a beautiful event. And we were delighted to get 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.400 acquainted with you a little bit. And then you 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:03.580 came to our convention last year. It was such 00:04:03.580 --> 00:04:05.699 a blessing to have you. And we're looking forward 00:04:05.699 --> 00:04:08.840 to having you at this convention too. Amen. Thank 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.240 you. It was it was a joy to be with you guys 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.379 last year and we're looking forward as well. 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:18.319 Yes, we're excited. So do you like this is going 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.519 to be a different convention than last year because 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.560 we're meeting in a hotel. We're expecting more 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.980 people. Not a lot of people decide to make the 00:04:26.980 --> 00:04:29.879 trip all the way to Jasper, Arkansas and beyond, 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.819 you know, out into the boonies where, you know, 00:04:33.819 --> 00:04:36.009 there's just not. a whole lot of stuff going 00:04:36.009 --> 00:04:39.089 on, beautiful Ozark Mountains. Yeah, and they 00:04:39.089 --> 00:04:42.550 stay down in our valley with our 1 ,000 -foot 00:04:42.550 --> 00:04:46.170 drop road, which is, I remember somebody once 00:04:46.170 --> 00:04:48.269 going up the hill, they said, I put a faith tape 00:04:48.269 --> 00:04:51.769 in when I go up the hill. Yeah. Put in Kenneth 00:04:51.769 --> 00:04:56.810 Hagin going up the hill. Right. Yeah. So what 00:04:56.810 --> 00:05:00.250 was your impression of being together this last 00:05:00.250 --> 00:05:03.379 year? Did you have any takeaways? I sure did. 00:05:03.500 --> 00:05:08.000 It was profound to be at Angletall where Gwen 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.420 Shaw and everything, so much history and the 00:05:10.420 --> 00:05:13.939 community that was there. I had known about the 00:05:13.939 --> 00:05:16.939 history of Global Outpouring and End Time Handmaidens. 00:05:16.980 --> 00:05:19.259 I knew a little bit about it before we were there 00:05:19.259 --> 00:05:22.839 and before you gave us the invitation. So it 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:26.839 was extraordinary to be there and to meet so 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:29.779 many lovely people that are part of the ministry. 00:05:30.589 --> 00:05:33.050 And to share that time together, it was profound. 00:05:33.790 --> 00:05:36.129 And I would just add to that, you put together 00:05:36.129 --> 00:05:38.730 a strong line of speakers, but there was also 00:05:38.730 --> 00:05:41.730 an interesting dynamic, something very special 00:05:41.730 --> 00:05:45.029 that happens when you combine the solid teaching 00:05:45.029 --> 00:05:48.569 with a heart of worship, a collective heart of 00:05:48.569 --> 00:05:52.170 worship with intercession. And there were intercessors 00:05:52.170 --> 00:05:54.709 there. And that was just a real highlight for 00:05:54.709 --> 00:06:01.329 us, seeing all of that come together. The community 00:06:01.329 --> 00:06:06.149 was pressing in and interceding, and our role 00:06:06.149 --> 00:06:09.089 at some points was just to almost provide a soundtrack 00:06:09.089 --> 00:06:12.750 for intercession. Well, and you did it so well. 00:06:13.149 --> 00:06:15.769 That was one of the reasons why we invited you, 00:06:15.829 --> 00:06:20.629 was to bring that weight of glory that you carry 00:06:20.629 --> 00:06:24.769 in the music. It's very weighty. Your anointing 00:06:24.769 --> 00:06:29.339 is weighty with the glory. to bring that into 00:06:29.339 --> 00:06:32.819 the mix, shall we say, of worship and intercession 00:06:32.819 --> 00:06:36.519 together. Like we do this. This prayer time before 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.620 we start the meetings, that's what it is. We 00:06:39.620 --> 00:06:43.100 put up flags and in this venue that we're going 00:06:43.100 --> 00:06:46.139 to, we'll have room for more flags. We'll have 00:06:46.139 --> 00:06:48.959 more representation of the nations that members 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.040 of this ministry have gone to and ministered 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.899 in. And it's a time when people connect with 00:06:53.899 --> 00:06:57.779 God in intercession and particularly for the 00:06:57.779 --> 00:07:01.620 nations. And when you have that weight of the 00:07:01.620 --> 00:07:05.720 glory in You know, the presence of God, just 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.259 the weightiness. I can't think of any other word 00:07:08.259 --> 00:07:11.959 to use. It's the presence of the Lord is just 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.079 so there. And they feed off of each other. The 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.939 intercession and the worship feed together into 00:07:17.939 --> 00:07:21.899 this atmosphere of the glory and the presence 00:07:21.899 --> 00:07:24.939 of God. And that was really why we invited you, 00:07:25.019 --> 00:07:28.100 because we knew that that was going to be what 00:07:28.100 --> 00:07:33.980 we needed. We love to be. leaders of worshipers. 00:07:34.019 --> 00:07:39.279 Amen. For many beautiful worshipers there. And 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.579 as we were worshiping in his glory, it was so 00:07:43.579 --> 00:07:46.819 amazing to see different ones going to different 00:07:46.819 --> 00:07:49.540 flags, different countries around the world that 00:07:49.540 --> 00:07:53.220 they were interceding for. And so we'll never 00:07:53.220 --> 00:07:56.120 know fully all that was accomplished. Someday 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:00.889 we will. Yes. But there was just a knowing. that 00:08:00.889 --> 00:08:03.810 there was a lot being accomplished as we were 00:08:03.810 --> 00:08:07.029 worshiping him and interceding. And there was 00:08:07.029 --> 00:08:09.550 one lady that came up to us afterward and she 00:08:09.550 --> 00:08:12.810 said, you know, during the worship, she said, 00:08:12.829 --> 00:08:16.589 I felt like the Lord gave me a download. I had 00:08:16.589 --> 00:08:20.610 been praying specifically for strategy for each 00:08:20.610 --> 00:08:23.250 of people group. And she said it was right during 00:08:23.250 --> 00:08:25.970 worship. Nobody said a word to me. But it was 00:08:25.970 --> 00:08:28.529 just a sense of what the Lord was speaking directly 00:08:28.529 --> 00:08:32.950 to me with very specific direction for how to 00:08:32.950 --> 00:08:34.830 reach this people group that's been on our heart 00:08:34.830 --> 00:08:37.289 for a long time. So, you know, those are the 00:08:37.289 --> 00:08:39.429 kinds of things you don't put that into your 00:08:39.429 --> 00:08:44.090 set list when you're planning. You just enter 00:08:44.090 --> 00:08:46.409 in and the Lord does things that go way beyond 00:08:46.409 --> 00:08:51.429 us. Amen. Absolutely. So how did you get started 00:08:51.429 --> 00:08:56.409 in this ministry of worship? Well, Dave and I 00:08:56.409 --> 00:08:58.950 have always been involved in music. And then 00:08:58.950 --> 00:09:03.269 when we got married down the road, we started 00:09:03.269 --> 00:09:06.169 being a part of a worship team at our church. 00:09:06.570 --> 00:09:10.470 But Wes was very little at that point. But as 00:09:10.470 --> 00:09:15.210 we progressed, there was a season where the church 00:09:15.210 --> 00:09:19.190 that we were going to had a healing prayer ministry 00:09:19.190 --> 00:09:25.480 that we were asked to lead worship during. And 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.460 it was like three hours where they would have 00:09:28.460 --> 00:09:30.320 groups of people that were being prayed over 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.379 and we would provide worship for three hours. 00:09:33.659 --> 00:09:37.460 Wow. Three hours. That's kind of when that was 00:09:37.460 --> 00:09:39.820 Dave and I and Wes was still pretty little during 00:09:39.820 --> 00:09:43.539 that time. But as he got older, then he felt 00:09:43.539 --> 00:09:47.340 led to be a part of what we do. And we felt led 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:50.649 for him to be a part of what we do. Sure. That's 00:09:50.649 --> 00:09:53.169 kind of where it was birthed. Then the Lord gave 00:09:53.169 --> 00:09:56.269 us the name Three O 'Clock Session one Sunday 00:09:56.269 --> 00:10:01.269 morning, even before church. It was confirmed 00:10:01.269 --> 00:10:05.309 in a very, very special way that morning at church. 00:10:06.450 --> 00:10:09.889 We didn't use that name for a long time, but 00:10:09.889 --> 00:10:12.190 there was a time when the Lord said, it's time 00:10:12.190 --> 00:10:16.049 to use your name, and it's time to move forward 00:10:16.049 --> 00:10:19.659 with Three O 'Clock Session. And this is a perfect 00:10:19.659 --> 00:10:22.159 time to also tie in, you know, Good Friday coming 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.759 up here just very soon. And at Good Friday, three 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.639 o 'clock in the afternoon is when Jesus said 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:34.759 from the cross, it is finished. He gave up his 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.320 spirit. But precisely when that was happening, 00:10:37.539 --> 00:10:41.639 the veil in the temple was torn supernaturally 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.059 from top to bottom. It was a very thick curtain. 00:10:48.330 --> 00:10:51.029 prohibiting the common man from entering into 00:10:51.029 --> 00:10:52.970 the Holy of Holies. Only the high priest could 00:10:52.970 --> 00:10:56.970 go and only once a year. But Jesus paid the price 00:10:56.970 --> 00:11:01.250 for the common man who calls upon him and receives 00:11:01.250 --> 00:11:04.769 salvation through Christ to have access into 00:11:04.769 --> 00:11:09.230 the very holy presence of God Almighty. So that's 00:11:09.230 --> 00:11:11.509 our heartbeat. That's our heartbeat. And that's 00:11:11.509 --> 00:11:14.830 the glory of God. You know, you think of the 00:11:14.830 --> 00:11:17.590 Ark of the Covenant. That was... behind the curtain. 00:11:17.710 --> 00:11:20.570 And that was the glory of God there. And so to 00:11:20.570 --> 00:11:23.730 have access because of Jesus being the final 00:11:23.730 --> 00:11:26.789 sacrifice. Yeah. So that's what we want our ministry 00:11:26.789 --> 00:11:30.049 to be all about is God's presence and his glory. 00:11:30.389 --> 00:11:34.169 And it is. Absolutely. Isn't that the time of 00:11:34.169 --> 00:11:37.009 the evening sacrifice? Yes, I think it is. Yes. 00:11:38.129 --> 00:11:41.830 While Jesus was offering the ultimate sacrifice 00:11:41.830 --> 00:11:47.210 on the cross over near the temple, The sacrifice 00:11:47.210 --> 00:11:50.070 was being offered as it had been for hundreds 00:11:50.070 --> 00:11:53.070 of years. And there was that perfect parallel. 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:55.610 God doesn't miss a detail. It's three o 'clock, 00:11:55.629 --> 00:11:59.830 three o 'clock. And the session part is there's 00:11:59.830 --> 00:12:03.269 musical sessions. I work as a therapist, so there's 00:12:03.269 --> 00:12:07.049 therapy sessions. But we want the ultimate session 00:12:07.049 --> 00:12:10.389 is a session with the King of Kings, the Lord 00:12:10.389 --> 00:12:14.070 of Lords, the wonderful counselor. Yes. Because 00:12:14.070 --> 00:12:17.759 everything. All things are possible with him, 00:12:17.779 --> 00:12:22.200 and in his presence, miracles take place. Amen. 00:12:22.259 --> 00:12:27.500 Amen. I'm reminded of years ago, we used to have 00:12:27.500 --> 00:12:31.240 a billboard that our ministry had put up in a 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:33.340 couple of places, and it said, you have an appointment 00:12:33.340 --> 00:12:36.659 with God. Yes. Yeah, that's good. Right. And 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:40.519 that's kind of what we, in the word session, 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:44.440 it's an intentional meeting. Let's have a session, 00:12:44.500 --> 00:12:47.100 an intentional meeting. It's an appointment to 00:12:47.100 --> 00:12:50.740 go in behind that veil that was torn into the 00:12:50.740 --> 00:12:54.000 very presence of God and meet with him. And the 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:57.240 beautiful thing is that's the place where we 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.759 can just, we can enter into his presence and 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:05.299 the very deepest places of our heart find what 00:13:05.299 --> 00:13:09.360 we are longing for. And that is the beauty of 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.019 really the Easter message started. with access 00:13:13.019 --> 00:13:16.440 into God's presence when Jesus said it is finished. 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.259 The Greek word to telestai, paid in full. It's 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:23.100 an accounting term. It means it's like a rubber 00:13:23.100 --> 00:13:25.840 stamp that says you're done. Your sins have been 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:27.899 canceled out. They have been paid for in full. 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:32.899 Now you can enter. Now you can come in to the 00:13:32.899 --> 00:13:35.960 fullness of the presence of God. So let's have 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.460 an intentional meeting, an appointment. with 00:13:38.460 --> 00:13:40.679 our wonderful counselor that I was talking about. 00:13:40.740 --> 00:13:43.320 Yeah, body, soul, and spirit. We know that salvation 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:47.600 means for body, the soul, and the spirit. So 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:52.679 it's all inclusive. Yes. Yes. Amen. Absolutely. 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.179 That reminds me too of, I'm not exactly sure 00:13:56.179 --> 00:13:59.139 of the pronunciation, but the word shalom comes 00:13:59.139 --> 00:14:02.759 from, and we know that means peace and it means 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.539 nothing's missing and nothing's broken, but it 00:14:05.539 --> 00:14:08.659 comes from a root word. And I think it's Shalem 00:14:08.659 --> 00:14:12.039 or Shalom. I'm sorry, I don't know the exact 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.639 words because I wasn't looking to say this, but 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:20.120 it also means paid in full. So the root of peace 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.320 is the fact that it's been paid in full. Beautiful. 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.340 And that the whole thing is paid in full. And 00:14:26.340 --> 00:14:29.960 there's another word that Paul uses in, I think 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.460 it's 1 Thessalonians 5, somewhere around verse 00:14:33.460 --> 00:14:36.779 20 or 21, where it talks about that your whole 00:14:36.779 --> 00:14:40.139 spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless. 00:14:40.379 --> 00:14:46.009 And that word whole there is holocleros. And 00:14:46.009 --> 00:14:49.289 it comes from two Greek words, olos and kleros. 00:14:49.429 --> 00:14:53.990 And olos means whole. And kleros, I think, means 00:14:53.990 --> 00:14:57.629 having all its parts. So it's whole having all 00:14:57.629 --> 00:15:00.990 its parts. So your whole spirit, soul and body 00:15:00.990 --> 00:15:03.970 is preserved blameless. And it has the idea that 00:15:03.970 --> 00:15:07.210 everything that's supposed to be there is there. 00:15:07.289 --> 00:15:10.049 Even if at one point it was lost, it's been restored. 00:15:10.590 --> 00:15:13.710 Beautiful. Yeah, that's what having a session 00:15:13.710 --> 00:15:16.230 with the Lord is all about. It's the restoration, 00:15:16.549 --> 00:15:18.470 you know. And it's a process. It's not like it 00:15:18.470 --> 00:15:21.309 happens overnight. But a big thing happens when 00:15:21.309 --> 00:15:24.210 you first get born again, you know. I don't know 00:15:24.210 --> 00:15:27.090 why some people get more than others, but, you 00:15:27.090 --> 00:15:29.970 know, it's the start of a walk. Yeah. It's the 00:15:29.970 --> 00:15:33.330 start of a lifestyle. Yeah. A history with God. 00:15:33.750 --> 00:15:36.610 Yeah. You know, it's also, it's really interesting. 00:15:37.009 --> 00:15:40.399 I've done some studying on... the presence of 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:43.860 God. And so many things happen in the presence 00:15:43.860 --> 00:15:48.179 of God. But one way to just kind of, I won't 00:15:48.179 --> 00:15:50.879 say summarize because you can't really, you can't 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:53.019 summarize in a sentence. But one thing I like 00:15:53.019 --> 00:15:56.840 to think about is hard things get soft in God. 00:15:56.860 --> 00:15:59.570 Yeah, that's good. There's just a whole lot of 00:15:59.570 --> 00:16:03.529 things that happen that are moving from disarray 00:16:03.529 --> 00:16:07.750 to order, from weakness to strength, from broken 00:16:07.750 --> 00:16:12.470 to healed. His presence gives life. And so that's 00:16:12.470 --> 00:16:17.509 the heartbeat of what drives us as worshipers. 00:16:18.250 --> 00:16:21.029 It's not about the music, although we are musicians 00:16:21.029 --> 00:16:24.549 and we do music, but that's an expression. Worship 00:16:24.549 --> 00:16:27.970 is about his presence. It's about entering in 00:16:27.970 --> 00:16:31.389 and having that love transaction where we tell 00:16:31.389 --> 00:16:34.250 him we love him and he loves us. And something 00:16:34.250 --> 00:16:37.669 very beautiful takes place just in that process 00:16:37.669 --> 00:16:41.450 of basking in the fullness of the Father's love. 00:16:41.830 --> 00:16:46.610 Yeah, and it's part that we just love is when 00:16:46.610 --> 00:16:49.070 we're loving on him, he's loving on us, when 00:16:49.070 --> 00:16:51.429 his glory is there. And that's something that's 00:16:51.429 --> 00:16:54.899 very... Important to us when we start worship 00:16:54.899 --> 00:17:01.759 is to wait on him to connect and make sure that 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.779 he knows that we're going to follow him. We're 00:17:04.779 --> 00:17:07.240 going to follow what he's doing. We're going 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.000 to look and see what he's doing and follow what 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:15.920 he's doing. And that's when, you know, we've 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.339 given him a complete invitation to do whatever 00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:22.809 he wants. And that's when the story... does the 00:17:22.809 --> 00:17:25.589 heavy lifting. It's like the glory brings an 00:17:25.589 --> 00:17:28.910 ease and it does the heavy lifting. And then 00:17:28.910 --> 00:17:33.470 we just enter in and amazing things happen. Just 00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:36.549 even recently, someone had such a revelation 00:17:36.549 --> 00:17:40.210 during their time of worship. And that's what 00:17:40.210 --> 00:17:44.849 we want for people and for ourselves. Just, you 00:17:44.849 --> 00:17:46.829 know, that body, soul, and spirit can come in 00:17:46.829 --> 00:17:49.750 many different ways that God reaches our hearts. 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.440 Yeah, just what an individual might need. And, 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:58.380 you know, it's like, it's like, we're just loving 00:17:58.380 --> 00:18:01.099 on him. But, you know, he's always loving back. 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.220 He's always reaching. He's always speaking. And 00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:08.740 so it's just a wonderful mutual exchange. He 00:18:08.740 --> 00:18:13.539 loves before we do. Yeah. You know, we love because 00:18:13.539 --> 00:18:18.180 he first loved us. Yeah. And I think that's where... 00:18:18.509 --> 00:18:23.529 So many folks are missing key ingredients in 00:18:23.529 --> 00:18:27.029 the life. You know, I'm noticing some of these 00:18:27.029 --> 00:18:31.130 folks that have deconstructed their faith and 00:18:31.130 --> 00:18:34.529 walked away from God. And I have to question 00:18:34.529 --> 00:18:38.490 how much of a relationship did they get? You 00:18:38.490 --> 00:18:41.410 know, I can understand. And I personally, I think 00:18:41.410 --> 00:18:46.400 it's good to allow questioning. I think it's 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:49.359 healthy to question because not everything that 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:53.400 we learned in church was scriptural. I mean, 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.579 there's lots of traditions, just like the Pharisees 00:18:56.579 --> 00:18:59.779 added all kinds of traditions. And Jesus wasn't 00:18:59.779 --> 00:19:02.400 happy with that. And he's not too happy with 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:05.980 the traditions that we tout as though they were 00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:08.859 scripture. And to be fair to the people that 00:19:08.859 --> 00:19:11.859 are pushing them, that's how they were taught. 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.460 You know, Philip and I grew up in the church 00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:17.180 and we were, taught lots of things, but we've 00:19:17.180 --> 00:19:18.859 had to sort through some things that are like, 00:19:18.940 --> 00:19:21.660 I don't think that was quite right. But, you 00:19:21.660 --> 00:19:25.079 know, because we have a real relationship with 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:28.740 the Lord, it's like, it's not his fault that 00:19:28.740 --> 00:19:33.519 somebody who was naming his name didn't get it 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:38.619 right. Yeah. It makes me so sad because it's 00:19:38.619 --> 00:19:42.890 like people often don't really know him. They 00:19:42.890 --> 00:19:45.150 haven't had a revelation of his unconditional 00:19:45.150 --> 00:19:48.710 love, and that's so sad. Yeah, and they think 00:19:48.710 --> 00:19:53.930 he's just an angry old man in the sky. He's not 00:19:53.930 --> 00:19:56.390 that at all. There's one having fun on Earth. 00:19:56.450 --> 00:20:01.630 Let's squash him like a bug. I noticed just recently 00:20:01.630 --> 00:20:04.089 a Facebook friend, a guy that I was in college 00:20:04.089 --> 00:20:06.990 with, who went on to become actually quite a 00:20:06.990 --> 00:20:09.769 scholar. He made a Facebook post, and I thought 00:20:09.769 --> 00:20:12.500 what he said was absolutely brilliant. He said, 00:20:12.539 --> 00:20:14.559 it's not a bad thing, kind of going back to what 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.099 you said, Sharon. It's not a bad thing to challenge 00:20:17.099 --> 00:20:20.880 some of the things that we have been taught and 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:24.500 to verify. That's not a bad thing. It can be 00:20:24.500 --> 00:20:27.440 extremely healthy and necessary. And he said, 00:20:27.460 --> 00:20:31.059 where I would make the distinction as you are. 00:20:32.029 --> 00:20:35.190 entering into this phase of, if you want to think 00:20:35.190 --> 00:20:37.809 of it as remodeling a house, you know, if you 00:20:37.809 --> 00:20:41.369 deconstruct a house, quote unquote, well, that's 00:20:41.369 --> 00:20:45.309 fine. You can move a wall between two bedrooms 00:20:45.309 --> 00:20:48.210 that's not a load -bearing wall. But if you move 00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:50.609 a load -bearing wall, you're in trouble. Yeah. 00:20:50.809 --> 00:20:54.250 That we have to be careful when we get into deconstruction. 00:20:54.589 --> 00:20:59.460 We cannot give up on the inerrancy. We cannot 00:20:59.460 --> 00:21:01.880 give up on the virgin birth. We cannot give up 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.700 on who Jesus is. There are certain things. Those 00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:06.460 are the load -bearing walls of the Christian 00:21:06.460 --> 00:21:10.680 faith. Yeah, that's good. And yes, we can grow 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.299 in our ability to defend why we hold those conclusions 00:21:14.299 --> 00:21:19.140 as convictions. But to deconstruct those essentials, 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.039 we've in essence rejected Christianity at its 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.259 foundation. And lots of them have. I was kind 00:21:26.259 --> 00:21:27.960 of chatting with somebody about this earlier 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:33.019 today, and we were talking about truth being 00:21:33.019 --> 00:21:35.619 the thing that most people that are really honest 00:21:35.619 --> 00:21:38.599 in their hearts are seeking truth. And the problem 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:42.579 is that they're tending to measure things with 00:21:42.579 --> 00:21:46.680 the wrong yardstick or the wrong scales. You 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:49.779 have to have, as you said, the inerrancy of the 00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:52.420 Word of God. You have to have some kind of a... 00:21:52.730 --> 00:21:56.710 measuring line or a plumb line that shows you 00:21:56.710 --> 00:22:00.829 what is straight. And if you're getting your 00:22:00.829 --> 00:22:04.150 information from social media or from television 00:22:04.150 --> 00:22:07.769 and movies and whatever mainstream media that's 00:22:07.769 --> 00:22:10.470 out there from the world, and you're not getting 00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:14.869 it from the source of life, the instruction book 00:22:14.869 --> 00:22:18.049 that our father wrote to help us get through 00:22:18.049 --> 00:22:20.890 this. You're starting off on the wrong foot. 00:22:20.990 --> 00:22:24.109 You're not going to succeed. You know, I think 00:22:24.109 --> 00:22:27.930 another really important part of this discussion 00:22:27.930 --> 00:22:32.150 is it can't just be head knowledge. Right. It 00:22:32.150 --> 00:22:35.970 can't just be a belief system that sits on the 00:22:35.970 --> 00:22:40.309 shelf. It has to show up in real life. And we 00:22:40.309 --> 00:22:45.210 sometimes talk about in worship. We are actually 00:22:45.210 --> 00:22:48.390 growing our experiential apologetic, if I can 00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:52.369 coin a phrase. Because when you are sensing that 00:22:52.369 --> 00:22:56.470 immersive love of the Heavenly Father and our 00:22:56.470 --> 00:23:01.630 spirits, our regenerated, reborn spirits know 00:23:01.630 --> 00:23:05.250 that. Our souls are a little slow sometimes to 00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:09.430 catch on. But our spirit man is pulsating with 00:23:09.430 --> 00:23:14.569 life in worship. When we are able to experience 00:23:14.569 --> 00:23:18.869 the love of God and when that environment, when 00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:21.029 there's a group of people together pressing into 00:23:21.029 --> 00:23:24.170 his presence and worship, there's something that 00:23:24.170 --> 00:23:27.750 pushes against all the lies of culture, all the 00:23:27.750 --> 00:23:30.849 lies of the deconstruction movement that says, 00:23:30.869 --> 00:23:36.490 no, my heart tells me I am experiencing my creator 00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:42.849 in this moment right now in real time. Then a 00:23:42.849 --> 00:23:46.809 miracle breaks out or something happens that 00:23:46.809 --> 00:23:48.849 can't be explained any other way except by the 00:23:48.849 --> 00:23:51.650 power and presence of God. Now you've got an 00:23:51.650 --> 00:23:55.869 experiential apologetic that links arms with 00:23:55.869 --> 00:24:00.170 the knowledge and with the belief system side 00:24:00.170 --> 00:24:02.430 of faith where we do need to have reasons for 00:24:02.430 --> 00:24:04.930 why we believe what we believe. But I believe 00:24:04.930 --> 00:24:07.910 what we're doing and part of our calling with 00:24:07.910 --> 00:24:10.289 worship is to help people have that encounter. 00:24:11.300 --> 00:24:15.779 to where it's not just a walk of faith that is 00:24:15.779 --> 00:24:18.859 head knowledge, but it's a heart reality. Yes, 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.640 that's good. Absolutely. Yeah, you could call 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:25.299 it a relational apologetic because it's just 00:24:25.299 --> 00:24:29.140 like in any relationship, God's faithful to us. 00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:31.519 He's always going to be faithful. And we want 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.099 to be faithful back, just like we would be faithful 00:24:34.099 --> 00:24:37.019 in a marriage or be faithful just to a friend. 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:41.049 You know, it's a relationship. So when people 00:24:41.049 --> 00:24:43.890 walk away, it's like, how could you walk away 00:24:43.890 --> 00:24:47.630 from your best friend? Your best friend's going 00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:51.730 to be faithful to you forever. Be faithful back. 00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:57.789 Yeah, that's true. That's true. So you've just 00:24:57.789 --> 00:25:01.670 recently returned from ministering in South Africa. 00:25:01.710 --> 00:25:06.009 Tell us about that. Wow. How do we begin? It 00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:09.940 was so glorious. We had to cross an ocean. Yeah. 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.680 Yeah. It was a wonderful time. And one of the 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.579 things that I think we can say is there is a 00:25:18.579 --> 00:25:21.299 move of God that's worldwide. Yeah. Yes. Yes. 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.660 Amen. It was such a thrill to be with people 00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:29.339 almost 8 ,000 miles away who love the Lord and 00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:34.759 who are passionate about him and just to join 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:36.519 our hearts together. And isn't that a kind of 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.799 picture of heaven? It was just a really, really 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.940 beautiful time. So we came back. Our hearts are 00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:47.339 filled to overflowing. It was such a great experience 00:25:47.339 --> 00:25:50.240 being in South Africa. We were actually in a 00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:54.119 retreat center that was about 3 ,100 feet elevation 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:58.299 above the Val d 'Or. And, oh my goodness, Wes, 00:25:58.380 --> 00:26:00.960 how do you even put into words the scenic beauty 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:06.359 that matched. The theme of the conference, the 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.559 clouds rolling in underneath where we were each 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.039 morning. That was just stunning. Yeah, there 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:15.460 in the mountains, seeing the clouds roll in. 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.039 And one morning I got up pretty early to catch 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:23.420 the sunrise, as did some others. And I saw dad 00:26:23.420 --> 00:26:27.799 walking out as well to experience that. And I 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:31.359 saw some clouds kind of follow him. It was as 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.789 though. The angelic realm was stirring up some 00:26:34.789 --> 00:26:38.690 clouds to welcome Dad or to rejoice with Dad 00:26:38.690 --> 00:26:41.789 in our being there and the body of Christ being 00:26:41.789 --> 00:26:45.130 there. That creation is of God and that it's 00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:47.690 alive and that it partners with us as we partner 00:26:47.690 --> 00:26:50.849 with God. So these clouds were rolling in, but 00:26:50.849 --> 00:26:53.930 there were these unordinary clouds that kind 00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:57.089 of lunged up out from the rest of the clouds 00:26:57.089 --> 00:26:59.589 and followed Dad as he was walking. It's quite 00:26:59.589 --> 00:27:02.759 notable. Yeah, we were above the clouds. We were 00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.039 in the mountains and the clouds came in below 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.039 us, which was really profound. So it was almost 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.460 like, you know, sometimes you'll use an illustration 00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:14.339 in a sermon. And that was a living illustration. 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:16.119 It was like, well, you just walk outside your 00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:20.019 door and creation. Psalm 19 .1 talks about how 00:27:20.019 --> 00:27:22.700 the heavens declare the glory of God. And all 00:27:22.700 --> 00:27:24.720 throughout the Psalms, the earth declares the 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.000 glory of God. And our retreat theme, we were 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.299 leading worship for four days in this setting. 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.900 And the theme was, as Wes touched on, it was 00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:37.579 just about how our faith, our relationship with 00:27:37.579 --> 00:27:42.680 the Lord is so linked with the world, with creation, 00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:45.720 with what our creator created out of his heart 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.160 of love. For us to enjoy. To enjoy and to partner 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:56.519 with him in stewarding and just reveling in the 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.599 beauty of what he created and loving it. It was 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.799 just pretty amazing, the whole experience. You 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.180 know, just worshiping with people from all different 00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:10.339 countries, Australia, New Zealand, or South Africa, 00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:14.799 the U .S. Mozambique. Mozambique. Peru, was there 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.500 anybody from Peru? It seemed like, anyway, just 00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:20.759 the body of Christ from all over the world, gathering 00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:24.200 together, worshiping him, loving him. It's a 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.059 taste of heaven. It was our first international 00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:31.660 trip. Purely to do worship. So it was significant 00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:34.339 on that level. We've had international trips 00:28:34.339 --> 00:28:37.279 before to Israel, but we weren't going there 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.640 to lead worship. That's been a few years ago, 00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:44.839 but this was specifically to lead worship. And 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:50.240 what a glorious first experience. Amen. That's 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.980 tremendous. You keep saying like heaven, and 00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:56.740 I keep thinking, we have a common friend that 00:28:56.740 --> 00:28:59.019 has been to heaven, and that's Dean Braxton, 00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:02.119 and he's been on this podcast a lot. And I have 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.200 appreciated, Wes, your input when we've had him 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.700 and other podcasts we've had. I so appreciate 00:29:07.700 --> 00:29:10.019 your feedback because it just means a lot to 00:29:10.019 --> 00:29:14.480 us, Wes. But the book that Dean wrote, Deep Worship 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.579 in Heaven, was life -changing for me. Yes. And 00:29:18.579 --> 00:29:21.160 I'm sure you've read it also because, you know, 00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:25.119 that's how you are moving is in that kind of 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.640 a heavenly realm. I think it's kind of like the 00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.440 veil gets really thin between heaven and earth 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.119 when we're worshiping with that understanding 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.299 of what heaven is like when it comes to worship. 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.339 That the things that you experience in worship, 00:29:43.460 --> 00:29:47.019 it's not just singing a song. And it's not just 00:29:47.019 --> 00:29:50.920 dancing or clapping or tapping your toe or whatever. 00:29:51.259 --> 00:29:55.900 It's so all -encompassing that your whole being 00:29:55.900 --> 00:29:59.680 is meant, spirit, soul, and body, your whole 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:04.339 being is meant to interact with the love of God 00:30:04.339 --> 00:30:08.240 and with the things that Jesus did for us. And 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.519 the Holy Spirit is helping us in those times 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:13.859 of worship, that it's all about interaction. 00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:19.289 It is. And one of the things that is so enormously 00:30:19.289 --> 00:30:23.750 satisfying beyond words, it's hard to even describe, 00:30:24.009 --> 00:30:29.509 is when we're sensing that wind of the Holy Spirit, 00:30:29.710 --> 00:30:33.950 sometimes we'll just try to follow. It's like 00:30:33.950 --> 00:30:36.750 putting your kite up in the sky and letting the 00:30:36.750 --> 00:30:40.230 wind carry. And Donna, you are really paying 00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:43.829 attention to what's happening. as the holy spirit 00:30:43.829 --> 00:30:47.470 is directing it's not just let's go through the 00:30:47.470 --> 00:30:50.890 song as planned but there's a lot of spontaneous 00:30:50.890 --> 00:30:53.849 in the moment that happens because of what you're 00:30:53.849 --> 00:30:56.750 talking about sharon what we're sensing is happening 00:30:56.750 --> 00:31:00.150 in heaven and you know first chronicles 25 and 00:31:00.150 --> 00:31:02.750 elsewhere in the scripture talks about prophesying 00:31:02.750 --> 00:31:05.609 on the instruments and there are times where 00:31:05.609 --> 00:31:08.569 we kind of get lost we don't know where the song 00:31:08.569 --> 00:31:12.230 is going but We're just flowing together. And 00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:16.190 it's just so crazy beautiful how the Lord has 00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:22.089 a way of expressing things through when we just 00:31:22.089 --> 00:31:24.990 yield ourselves. And that's all of us. Yeah. 00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:27.769 Ephesians 2 tells us that we're seated with him 00:31:27.769 --> 00:31:31.109 in heavenly places. And so we are there. We're 00:31:31.109 --> 00:31:34.869 in the throne room with him, you know, positionally 00:31:34.869 --> 00:31:37.970 as believers. And so, you know, when we lead, 00:31:38.049 --> 00:31:41.880 we're watching. What are you doing, Lord? And 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.859 what is heaven doing? And we're going to follow 00:31:45.859 --> 00:31:48.980 what heaven is doing, follow what the Lord is 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:53.380 doing in this setting at this moment, and do 00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:56.180 our best to follow that. And sometimes he'll 00:31:56.180 --> 00:32:02.960 have us focus on a certain lyric and go over 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.960 that lyric again and again, because he's doing 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.880 something with that lyric that somebody needs 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.779 to hear. shifting the atmosphere or shifting 00:32:13.779 --> 00:32:18.740 a region or shifting a country or whatever. And 00:32:18.740 --> 00:32:23.079 yeah, there's been a lyric that he's kind of 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.480 had us camping on for a while the last few times 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:30.720 we've led worship. But it's just so fun to follow 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.000 him. And then you get to hear what took place. 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.599 Sometimes we'll never know fully, but some people 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.440 then share. Like I said, I alluded to earlier, 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.740 there was a person that had an inner healing 00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:50.559 and an insight into something that they shared. 00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:57.480 And so only the Holy Spirit, in following what 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:03.079 he's doing, can we have the results because he's 00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:04.759 going to show us where to go and what to do. 00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:09.190 Amen. You know, many times we, you know, we don't 00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:12.809 fully comprehend what's happening with the people, 00:33:12.890 --> 00:33:16.109 you know, when God is doing something like, well, 00:33:16.170 --> 00:33:19.390 we had an experience a couple years ago. It was 00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:21.349 when we were having our convention here. Yeah, 00:33:21.369 --> 00:33:25.130 yeah. And it was a big train wreck. That's what 00:33:25.130 --> 00:33:28.009 we call it. When something goes wrong. Yeah, 00:33:28.029 --> 00:33:30.230 our one time to lead worship, you know, because 00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:32.470 we just stepped back and... You know, I picked 00:33:32.470 --> 00:33:34.690 all the music out. You know, you collate it because 00:33:34.690 --> 00:33:37.289 you had about 12, 13 different people we had 00:33:37.289 --> 00:33:40.609 to have music for. So, you know, you get it laid 00:33:40.609 --> 00:33:42.950 out. And, of course, it's always subject to change 00:33:42.950 --> 00:33:45.690 because you never know until you're up there 00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:48.349 what's going to happen. And we start on this 00:33:48.349 --> 00:33:52.609 one piece, and it just sounds different. It's 00:33:52.609 --> 00:33:54.849 something's wrong. I said to Sharon, don't you 00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:58.990 sing melody on this? And what had happened, the 00:33:58.990 --> 00:34:01.970 one sheet of music we had, was in a different 00:34:01.970 --> 00:34:04.170 key than everybody else's. And it wasn't the 00:34:04.170 --> 00:34:08.590 key we normally use. Because nobody else is playing. 00:34:08.969 --> 00:34:11.869 And then the people that play by ear, they start 00:34:11.869 --> 00:34:16.909 joining in. And I just say, stop. I've never 00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:21.619 done this ever. Just stop. And I reached back 00:34:21.619 --> 00:34:24.000 and I grabbed my sister -in -law's copy off the 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.920 keyboard, said, let's restart this. And Sharon, 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.519 you tell the rest of what was going on. So, you 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.739 know, we started the song all over again in the 00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:35.059 correct key. We're on the same key. And it looked, 00:34:35.139 --> 00:34:37.840 you know, it was fine. But what we found out 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.920 later was one of the ladies that was there told 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.519 us later, she said, you remember that train wreck 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.219 that you had? I had a vision while you're having 00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:50.440 that train wreck. And what her vision was, she 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:54.239 saw these stairs coming down with, I think there 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.719 was red carpet on the stairs. And there were 00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.659 angels lining both sides of the stairs. And Jesus 00:34:59.659 --> 00:35:02.719 was on his white horse coming down the stairs. 00:35:03.420 --> 00:35:06.179 And he came down into the room where we were 00:35:06.179 --> 00:35:09.179 and he got off of his horse and he walked over 00:35:09.179 --> 00:35:12.920 to a lady named Mercy McJones. She's one of our 00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.280 members and we've had her on the podcast before. 00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:19.079 She's from Nigeria. And he took one of the crowns 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:24.500 off of his head and he put it on her. So if you 00:35:24.500 --> 00:35:28.500 think about what that means, that in the midst 00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:31.940 of our train wreck, he was crowning Mercy. Wow. 00:35:33.150 --> 00:35:37.670 Wow. Wow. And that's how he is. He is so into 00:35:37.670 --> 00:35:42.329 mercy and grace. He's trying to get people to 00:35:42.329 --> 00:35:46.309 heaven. He's not trying to keep people out. He's 00:35:46.309 --> 00:35:49.409 not standing there at the door trying to say, 00:35:49.469 --> 00:35:52.210 nope, you didn't check that line off. Sorry, 00:35:52.329 --> 00:35:55.949 you can't come in. He's more about strategizing 00:35:55.949 --> 00:36:00.079 how to get you there. You know, that's why we 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.480 intercede for people that that the Lord will 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.519 forgive, that the Lord will, you know, lead people 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.079 into repentance, that we ask him to forgive the 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.619 sins of people that have hurt us, you know, so 00:36:11.619 --> 00:36:14.159 that it's not being held over them. You know, 00:36:14.179 --> 00:36:16.639 that's what intercession is all about is getting 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.320 in between our father and the people that have 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.639 done something wrong. That's what Moses did. 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.719 You know, just no, Lord, you can't destroy them 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.079 because the Egyptians will hear about it and 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.480 think, oh, that God of Israel. Well, he was able 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.159 to get him out of Egypt, but he wasn't able to 00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.420 take him to the promised land. Yeah. You know, 00:36:35.460 --> 00:36:38.460 it's about his name and he is the merciful one 00:36:38.460 --> 00:36:41.039 and he is the faithful one. And I think it's 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.900 Dean that talks about how Jesus is always strategizing. 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:48.119 Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we need to get a whole 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:51.599 new mindset about instead of condemning people. 00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:54.340 When we see that they're doing something wrong, 00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.579 that we should be interceding for them. Yeah. 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.159 That's such an encouragement for you as worship 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.219 leaders, too, for that person to come forward 00:37:04.219 --> 00:37:07.400 with that vision. Yes. Sometimes as worship leaders, 00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:10.599 you can think, oh, man, I really, we made a big 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.000 mistake there. And it's like Jesus says, hey. 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:17.980 Been redeemed. I use everything, just like Dean 00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:21.980 even talks about how even when we're. practicing 00:37:21.980 --> 00:37:25.360 yes it's not practicing it's worshiping and so 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.820 even in the midst of being on the wrong keys 00:37:27.820 --> 00:37:32.039 it was your part of worship that jesus saw that 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.280 you were in wreck and he made a grand entrance 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.320 yeah he made yeah so yeah and that's what he 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.760 saw i was just i was just thinking about how 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.840 you thought it was a train wreck and mercy saw 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.320 his train fill the temple yes oh i like that 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.250 excellent That's good. That is good. Hallelujah. 00:37:52.449 --> 00:37:56.190 Sometimes in worship, things happen. And, you 00:37:56.190 --> 00:38:00.170 know, it's good to be humbled now and then. Yeah. 00:38:00.550 --> 00:38:03.070 Something that sometimes I'm the keyboardist 00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:06.789 of the group and Dave plays bass and the sound. 00:38:07.030 --> 00:38:11.329 Yeah. And Wes is our percussionist. And just 00:38:11.329 --> 00:38:14.550 occasionally I'll get so caught up in the spirit, 00:38:14.630 --> 00:38:16.530 I kind of lose my place. You know, I'm like, 00:38:16.550 --> 00:38:21.659 whoops. I know that feeling. And I want to say 00:38:21.659 --> 00:38:24.880 this. It's a little difficult to state exactly 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.440 what I'm hoping to communicate here. We do care 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.219 about right notes. Don't get me wrong. You know, 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.019 that aspect of it. But we care more about where 00:38:35.019 --> 00:38:38.940 the worship is going. And sometimes it's necessary 00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:43.159 as worship leaders to take prophetic risk. I 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.889 actually love those times when Donna... We kind 00:38:47.889 --> 00:38:49.829 of think of it as getting into the four -wheel 00:38:49.829 --> 00:38:53.190 drive mode. You get off road, and we don't know 00:38:53.190 --> 00:38:56.329 where it's going. And it's a prophetic song. 00:38:56.429 --> 00:39:00.289 It's something that's never been done. And she's 00:39:00.289 --> 00:39:04.349 leading, and Wes and I are doing our best to 00:39:04.349 --> 00:39:09.349 follow. And sometimes we may not follow correctly, 00:39:09.530 --> 00:39:12.190 but that is okay. And that's one of the things 00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:15.829 I believe actually brings delight to the Lord. 00:39:16.329 --> 00:39:20.289 is when it's more about the heart of following 00:39:20.289 --> 00:39:23.989 in worship than it is about the perfection of 00:39:23.989 --> 00:39:28.869 execution in worship. Well said. Anytime we sense 00:39:28.869 --> 00:39:33.590 the Lord just saying, okay, let's get off road 00:39:33.590 --> 00:39:37.829 here, and it's an adventure. And a lot of times 00:39:37.829 --> 00:39:41.469 I'll have a sense, like Wes needs to take it 00:39:41.469 --> 00:39:45.079 with the percussion, and you want to speak. on 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.480 that a little bit because there is prophecy on 00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:54.300 the instruments. And so when Wes takes it, he 00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:57.139 plays the cajon, there's some powerful things 00:39:57.139 --> 00:39:59.739 that take place. You want to share a little bit 00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:02.500 about that or things that people have, you know, 00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:05.880 shared that happen when you have done that because 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.360 it really cuts through the atmosphere. Yeah. 00:40:08.860 --> 00:40:11.559 We found that people are very responsive to the 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.900 cajon and the things that are accomplished on 00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:17.260 that instrument. And, you know, every instrument 00:40:17.260 --> 00:40:20.139 has its voice. It has its particular characteristic, 00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:23.739 its quality that lends itself to the spirit because 00:40:23.739 --> 00:40:27.760 music is a language. It's a sacred language that 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:34.019 God gave us. And so worship brings godly life 00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:38.099 to that language. And so with my instrument. 00:40:38.750 --> 00:40:42.090 It does cut through. It does pierce things. And 00:40:42.090 --> 00:40:44.889 it's interesting. You look at some of the, oh, 00:40:44.909 --> 00:40:48.949 I don't know, Indian cultures or historical cultures, 00:40:49.030 --> 00:40:51.789 and drums were very significant for them to accomplish 00:40:51.789 --> 00:40:56.110 things. And it's no different for us. I think 00:40:56.110 --> 00:41:00.550 when Wes is playing, there are like chains that 00:41:00.550 --> 00:41:04.469 get broken off of people, bondages that get broken 00:41:04.469 --> 00:41:06.789 off of people. You can just sense it and feel 00:41:06.789 --> 00:41:10.039 it. There's an articulation that it's almost 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.559 like a knife's edge that's just cutting through. 00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:16.900 And I also think about you mentioned Dean Braxton's 00:41:16.900 --> 00:41:20.280 book, Deep Worship in Heaven. And he talks in 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.579 the book about experiencing a drumbeat in heaven. 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.539 Yeah. And sometimes there's nothing else except 00:41:27.539 --> 00:41:30.980 just this drumbeat that's going on. And Jesus 00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:35.050 in John 519 talks about. He does what he sees 00:41:35.050 --> 00:41:37.530 the Father doing. Jesus was living as a man on 00:41:37.530 --> 00:41:42.309 earth, fully God, but yet fully man, watching 00:41:42.309 --> 00:41:46.269 to see what is my Father doing. And he was doing 00:41:46.269 --> 00:41:49.809 on earth what he saw in heaven. So when Wes is 00:41:49.809 --> 00:41:53.150 playing his heart out on that cajon, which is 00:41:53.150 --> 00:41:56.019 like a... It's not quite a drum, if you're not 00:41:56.019 --> 00:41:58.280 familiar with a cajon. It's not a drum set. It's 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.460 not a drum set. How would you describe the sound 00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:03.179 of it, Wes? I think the easiest descriptor for 00:42:03.179 --> 00:42:07.500 it is called a box. That's what it means in Spanish. 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:09.639 Yeah, there you go. People will call it that. 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.340 And it's got a great range. But I give enormous 00:42:15.340 --> 00:42:18.019 credit to Dad for getting it to sound as good 00:42:18.019 --> 00:42:20.460 as it does. It's a great acoustic instrument, 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.539 but the way that Dad mics it and... The way he 00:42:24.539 --> 00:42:27.639 amplifies it and gets that range of sound out 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.380 of it is as much the instrument as anything. 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.159 My hands are, I feel that they're guided. I'm 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:40.000 like mom and dad. I'm constantly reading the 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:45.019 room. I'm feeling it out, asking and partnering 00:42:45.019 --> 00:42:48.119 with the guidance for how to go about it because 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:52.199 I don't want it to be bang, bang, bang. It's 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.610 got to have. sensitivity to it that is real and 00:42:55.610 --> 00:42:59.550 that is alive and that is helpful. There are 00:42:59.550 --> 00:43:03.469 times when, you know, and that's the thing, it's 00:43:03.469 --> 00:43:06.230 being sensitive to what the Holy Spirit's doing. 00:43:06.829 --> 00:43:09.809 So there are times that Wes will just gently, 00:43:09.869 --> 00:43:14.230 gently play just in being sensitive to what's 00:43:14.230 --> 00:43:17.309 happening in the moment. So I appreciate his 00:43:17.309 --> 00:43:19.909 sensitivity. And that's what I try to really 00:43:19.909 --> 00:43:22.960 pay attention to. There are only three of us, 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:26.139 so we are much more nimble because we're a small 00:43:26.139 --> 00:43:29.480 group. And we can follow each other pretty well. 00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.300 Donna and I have been doing this together long 00:43:32.300 --> 00:43:33.980 enough that I can watch her left hand and have 00:43:33.980 --> 00:43:35.500 a pretty good idea of what's going on as I'm 00:43:35.500 --> 00:43:38.400 playing bass. That's pretty good. This just has 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:41.860 a knack. It's an uncanny knack for knowing where 00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:46.239 things are going. But the idea is to be available 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:51.730 for those swells that give. articulation to the 00:43:51.730 --> 00:43:56.170 magnificence of God and yet also those dynamics 00:43:56.170 --> 00:43:59.750 that are delicate and sensitive and just almost 00:43:59.750 --> 00:44:03.869 barely playing or barely singing that are just 00:44:03.869 --> 00:44:07.570 in such reverent awe and the stillness. It's 00:44:07.570 --> 00:44:10.329 almost like giving a musical expression to stillness 00:44:10.329 --> 00:44:13.250 where people are experiencing a rest in their 00:44:13.250 --> 00:44:16.789 souls. And that's really just being able to use 00:44:16.789 --> 00:44:20.059 that entire range. is something that we feel 00:44:20.059 --> 00:44:22.780 is very important and very integral to what we 00:44:22.780 --> 00:44:24.960 try to do. Yeah, the sensitivity of the dove. 00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:28.920 I like to think that when Dad is playing bass, 00:44:29.179 --> 00:44:31.559 you know, he is my dad, and when he's playing 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.719 those low frequencies or sustained notes, there's 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.019 such a fullness about it. I think of it as the 00:44:40.019 --> 00:44:43.300 heart of the father when Dad is playing the bass. 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.519 We were blessed about a year, year and a half 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.190 ago. On a return trip we were coming back from, 00:44:51.309 --> 00:44:55.469 we just felt this urge to go to Asbury. The move 00:44:55.469 --> 00:44:59.030 started in Asbury. And we got there at great 00:44:59.030 --> 00:45:02.630 timing. God just worked everything out. And it 00:45:02.630 --> 00:45:05.269 was the most amazing because you had a guy playing 00:45:05.269 --> 00:45:09.170 guitar. He had a piano. And then you had the 00:45:09.170 --> 00:45:12.989 student on the cajon. Just above him was this 00:45:12.989 --> 00:45:17.570 magnificent drum set in a cage. Drum cage. drum 00:45:17.570 --> 00:45:21.389 cage not being used you know it was just the 00:45:21.389 --> 00:45:24.250 simplicity of the music and when we were outside 00:45:24.250 --> 00:45:27.090 standing to get in they were singing the chorus 00:45:27.090 --> 00:45:30.630 of honest day you know the holy are you lord 00:45:30.630 --> 00:45:34.710 god almighty yeah and that was going on while 00:45:34.710 --> 00:45:37.489 we're waiting to get in and it continued for 00:45:37.489 --> 00:45:40.530 quite a long time after we got in it would be 00:45:40.530 --> 00:45:44.090 like waves would just would just come And what 00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:47.369 it was, it was God meeting these kids right where 00:45:47.369 --> 00:45:50.690 they were at. There wasn't anything demonstrative. 00:45:51.050 --> 00:45:55.429 Nobody waving banners and running down the aisles 00:45:55.429 --> 00:45:58.630 and screaming and maybe doing a cartwheel or 00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:01.769 something. No, it was like the presence of God 00:46:01.769 --> 00:46:04.590 coming down in a traditional church that didn't 00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:08.320 know how to raise their hands. God met them right 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.579 where they were at. But even with the cajon, 00:46:11.699 --> 00:46:16.139 it was amazing. Just that combination and the 00:46:16.139 --> 00:46:20.760 glory was just there. And it's just like, wow. 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.539 And I'm sure they were in awe too, the way that 00:46:24.539 --> 00:46:26.619 whole thing started. It just started in their 00:46:26.619 --> 00:46:30.300 devotion and it just kept going. So it really 00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:32.780 is an amazing instrument. I think we need to 00:46:32.780 --> 00:46:37.710 get one. Could be we do. Well, I just want to 00:46:37.710 --> 00:46:41.489 really express our gratitude to the Lord, first 00:46:41.489 --> 00:46:45.789 of all, for connecting us because we have that 00:46:45.789 --> 00:46:49.130 similar heart for his presence and wanting to 00:46:49.130 --> 00:46:52.969 just lift him high and worship and flow with 00:46:52.969 --> 00:46:56.289 the Holy Spirit. So I just want to say thank 00:46:56.289 --> 00:46:59.670 you to you, Father, and thank you to you, Dave 00:46:59.670 --> 00:47:03.510 and Donna and Wes, as your name is three o 'clock 00:47:03.510 --> 00:47:07.280 session together. We bless you, and we really 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.539 appreciate that you've come alongside us to help 00:47:09.539 --> 00:47:13.039 us to steward the presence of God in this convention 00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.980 that's coming up. And we really want to encourage 00:47:15.980 --> 00:47:19.079 people to come. It's really life -changing to 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.519 kind of wade out into the depths of the presence 00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.159 of God when you get people that are so inclined 00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.639 that way and have walked together long enough 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.019 to just learn to follow. I just think it's an 00:47:34.019 --> 00:47:36.159 opportunity that we really encourage people to 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.960 join in on. I want to mention your website, right? 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.980 You have a website? ThreeO 'ClockSession .com. 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.039 Now, is there an apostrophe between the O and 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.300 the C in O 'Clock? No apostrophe, and the word 00:47:50.300 --> 00:47:53.639 three is spelled out. T -H -R -E -E, Three O 00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.159 'Clock Session. Okay, we'll make sure we get 00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.500 that into the show notes. And we do have some 00:47:58.500 --> 00:48:00.460 recordings that are available online, Spotify. 00:48:02.240 --> 00:48:06.039 YouTube, all the platforms. Yeah, over 150 different 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.880 digital platforms. Wow. So for 3 o 'clock session, 00:48:10.059 --> 00:48:11.440 you'll find some of the recordings. Yeah, we're 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.940 in the middle of recording, trying to. There's 00:48:13.940 --> 00:48:17.639 many songs that we do, and we do many original 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.480 songs, and we're trying to get them all recorded. 00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:24.619 It's hard when we are out worshiping, you know, 00:48:24.619 --> 00:48:28.960 and. then we need to come in and have time to 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.199 record. Right, right. And you've written a lot 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:34.880 of songs. Do you have any idea how many? I don't, 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.679 but a good portion of what we do is all original. 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:43.219 We do like to do some songs that everybody knows 00:48:43.219 --> 00:48:46.539 really well, so most of what we do is original. 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.500 It would be hard to say for sure, but do you 00:48:49.500 --> 00:48:52.900 think 40 or 50, Donna? Oh, I don't know. Want 00:48:52.900 --> 00:48:56.239 to put a number on it? I'm always writing. It's 00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:59.000 a bunch. Yeah. And sometimes we do songs that 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:03.440 she hasn't written yet. It just comes spontaneously. 00:49:03.820 --> 00:49:05.940 Yeah, sometimes. Stronger than the Lord, that 00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:09.059 was like a prophetic. I was singing something 00:49:09.059 --> 00:49:12.380 totally different. And I just felt this strong 00:49:12.380 --> 00:49:15.719 sense to start singing that out. And so that 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.639 was what I would call a new song. And a lot of 00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.199 times. We'll do something like that. And it's 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.099 just for that event, just for that moment. But 00:49:25.099 --> 00:49:30.239 that song, I felt like was one that was for not 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.539 just for that evening, but I needed to grab it. 00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:36.920 But the next day I was like, oh, Lord, what chords 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:41.059 did I? And he helped me remember what chords 00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:44.760 I was on. And so that's one of the songs that 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.440 we do have recorded that a live version of it. 00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:53.500 But yeah, sometimes that new song we'll do again 00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:56.619 later. But sometimes it's just for that moment. 00:49:56.980 --> 00:49:59.860 Yes, and the Lord deserves that. He deserves 00:49:59.860 --> 00:50:04.639 something new every moment. And even when you 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.199 sing a song that you've sung before, you sing 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:11.500 it in a new way, and it has a new quality. That's 00:50:11.500 --> 00:50:13.900 right. We never do the same song the same way 00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:18.670 twice. And we want to just also say thank you 00:50:18.670 --> 00:50:22.050 to both of you. And we're looking forward to 00:50:22.050 --> 00:50:24.409 our time with the Global Outpouring family. And 00:50:24.409 --> 00:50:27.329 several times in this visit, we've mentioned 00:50:27.329 --> 00:50:29.949 our good friend Dean Braxton. And we've had, 00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:33.130 oh my, I don't know how many services we've ministered 00:50:33.130 --> 00:50:34.989 together with Dean. And we just love that guy. 00:50:35.389 --> 00:50:40.130 And he has such a profound testimony of his experience 00:50:40.130 --> 00:50:42.949 in clinically dead, coming back from heaven and 00:50:42.949 --> 00:50:44.710 telling the story of what that experience was 00:50:44.710 --> 00:50:47.610 like. And then Tony Kemp, another good mutual 00:50:47.610 --> 00:50:49.889 friend who is going to be one of the speakers. 00:50:49.949 --> 00:50:52.809 And we just would join with you in encouraging 00:50:52.809 --> 00:50:55.130 everyone who's listening. If there's any way 00:50:55.130 --> 00:50:57.730 that you can make it to the services in St. Louis 00:50:57.730 --> 00:51:00.329 at the Marriott Airport, we would love to connect 00:51:00.329 --> 00:51:01.989 in person and just believe it's going to be a 00:51:01.989 --> 00:51:05.010 very special time. And we just love how you are 00:51:05.010 --> 00:51:08.329 God chasers. You're going after, you love him 00:51:08.329 --> 00:51:10.989 and you want more of him, more and more and more 00:51:10.989 --> 00:51:15.119 of him. Absolutely. Yes, we'll pursue him together. 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.940 Yes. Beautiful. I think about what a wealth of 00:51:19.940 --> 00:51:22.699 material you have on this podcast, all of the 00:51:22.699 --> 00:51:26.280 people that you've had on. Thinking of your question 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.059 earlier about takeaways from last year, there 00:51:30.059 --> 00:51:32.519 was one highlight that stands out to me. There 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.119 was a time when we were in worship and there 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.980 was a holy hush that just settled over the whole 00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:41.099 place. I don't know if you recall that, but it 00:51:41.099 --> 00:51:46.239 was prolonged. It seemed to me that it was very 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:50.760 much participating with what the ministry is 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:54.699 all about and this outpouring that we're all 00:51:54.699 --> 00:52:00.300 expectant of, that holy hush before the rupture 00:52:00.300 --> 00:52:04.019 of heaven is the sense that I got last year. 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:08.320 That's beautiful. Amen. Well, thank you so much 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.980 for joining us today. And we look forward to 00:52:10.980 --> 00:52:12.940 seeing you again real soon because it's coming 00:52:12.940 --> 00:52:37.179 up soon. Check out our website at globaloutpouring 00:52:37.179 --> 00:52:40.480 .org to find out more information, read our blogs, 00:52:40.619 --> 00:52:43.440 connect with us, and donate. You can also browse 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.039 our web store for life -changing anointed books. 00:52:46.460 --> 00:52:49.860 Until next time, this is Sharon Buss. And I'm 00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:52.579 Philip Buss. God bless you with His overwhelming, 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:53.760 loving presence.