Let's have a session, an intentional meeting.
It's an appointment to go in behind that veil
that was torn into the very presence of God and
meet with him. And the beautiful thing is that's
the place where we can just enter into his presence
and the very deepest places of our heart find
what we are longing for. God promises in Joel
2 .28 to pour out His Spirit on all humanity.
Welcome to Global Outpouring, where we contend
for that promised outpouring, and we equip for
that outpouring so that we may engage in that
very outpouring. I'm Philip Buss. And I'm Sharon
Buss. Welcome to the podcast today. We're so
glad that you're with us. We have some very special
guests today. Dave and Donna and Wes Brooks,
they formed the musical worship group called
Three O 'Clock Session. And we're going to talk
about finding what you're longing for in the
deepest place of your heart. Thank you so much
for joining us today. This is going to be a marvelous
podcast that you are going to be blessed by.
There's some wonderful things that we're going
to be talking about. But before we get started,
we want to encourage you, if you haven't already
done so, that you go to our website, globaloutpouring
.net. And make sure that you have signed up for
our email list so that we can stay in touch with
you, keep you informed of what we're doing. And
while you're there on our website, you can look
at our events tab. And especially right now,
look at that tab that talks about the Global
Outpouring Convention 2025, St. Louis Airport
Marriott, May 21st through 24th. We're going
to have a glory time. Three o 'clock session
will be with us. And we're going to have such
an amazing presence of the Lord in worship and
intercession. The teaching that we're going to
be receiving from Tony Kemp and Dean Braxton
and Jeff Simons. Siggy Oblander is going to be
our opening night speaker. Dr. Jean Little will
be. bringing them a message about Israel, and
I'll be speaking as well. And we're going to
have a time in the presence of God that will
be life -changing. It's just something you got
to get there for. You got to get there if you
possibly can. So we encourage you, if you possibly
can come, please, please, please. It's going
to be a family event. We have something for every
member of the family. nursery for the little
ones and children's meetings and youth meetings
and just an opportunity for every age to grow
in the grace of God and to get closer to Him
and learn how to move in the Spirit, learn how
to hear the Holy Spirit and operate with Him
in conjunction with Him. So we just want to encourage
you, please, please pray into this and come if
you possibly can. Well, we have with us today,
three o 'clock session, Dave, Donna, and Wes
Brooks. We are so delighted to have you with
us. Thank you for joining us today. Honored to
be with you. We're excited to be with you. Yeah.
That's wonderful. That's wonderful. The Lord
really has connected us in such a beautiful way.
We heard you a little bit on probably YouTube
or someplace watching some other kinds of events
that we were taking in online. And then we met
you in Peru, I think it was. Not Peru the nation,
but Peru, Illinois. Yeah. It was in the shopping
mall. Yes. Yes. During COVID when you weren't
supposed to be doing anything and we were doing
it anyway. Hallelujah. It was beautiful. It was
a beautiful event. And we were delighted to get
acquainted with you a little bit. And then you
came to our convention last year. It was such
a blessing to have you. And we're looking forward
to having you at this convention too. Amen. Thank
you. It was it was a joy to be with you guys
last year and we're looking forward as well.
Yes, we're excited. So do you like this is going
to be a different convention than last year because
we're meeting in a hotel. We're expecting more
people. Not a lot of people decide to make the
trip all the way to Jasper, Arkansas and beyond,
you know, out into the boonies where, you know,
there's just not. a whole lot of stuff going
on, beautiful Ozark Mountains. Yeah, and they
stay down in our valley with our 1 ,000 -foot
drop road, which is, I remember somebody once
going up the hill, they said, I put a faith tape
in when I go up the hill. Yeah. Put in Kenneth
Hagin going up the hill. Right. Yeah. So what
was your impression of being together this last
year? Did you have any takeaways? I sure did.
It was profound to be at Angletall where Gwen
Shaw and everything, so much history and the
community that was there. I had known about the
history of Global Outpouring and End Time Handmaidens.
I knew a little bit about it before we were there
and before you gave us the invitation. So it
was extraordinary to be there and to meet so
many lovely people that are part of the ministry.
And to share that time together, it was profound.
And I would just add to that, you put together
a strong line of speakers, but there was also
an interesting dynamic, something very special
that happens when you combine the solid teaching
with a heart of worship, a collective heart of
worship with intercession. And there were intercessors
there. And that was just a real highlight for
us, seeing all of that come together. The community
was pressing in and interceding, and our role
at some points was just to almost provide a soundtrack
for intercession. Well, and you did it so well.
That was one of the reasons why we invited you,
was to bring that weight of glory that you carry
in the music. It's very weighty. Your anointing
is weighty with the glory. to bring that into
the mix, shall we say, of worship and intercession
together. Like we do this. This prayer time before
we start the meetings, that's what it is. We
put up flags and in this venue that we're going
to, we'll have room for more flags. We'll have
more representation of the nations that members
of this ministry have gone to and ministered
in. And it's a time when people connect with
God in intercession and particularly for the
nations. And when you have that weight of the
glory in You know, the presence of God, just
the weightiness. I can't think of any other word
to use. It's the presence of the Lord is just
so there. And they feed off of each other. The
intercession and the worship feed together into
this atmosphere of the glory and the presence
of God. And that was really why we invited you,
because we knew that that was going to be what
we needed. We love to be. leaders of worshipers.
Amen. For many beautiful worshipers there. And
as we were worshiping in his glory, it was so
amazing to see different ones going to different
flags, different countries around the world that
they were interceding for. And so we'll never
know fully all that was accomplished. Someday
we will. Yes. But there was just a knowing. that
there was a lot being accomplished as we were
worshiping him and interceding. And there was
one lady that came up to us afterward and she
said, you know, during the worship, she said,
I felt like the Lord gave me a download. I had
been praying specifically for strategy for each
of people group. And she said it was right during
worship. Nobody said a word to me. But it was
just a sense of what the Lord was speaking directly
to me with very specific direction for how to
reach this people group that's been on our heart
for a long time. So, you know, those are the
kinds of things you don't put that into your
set list when you're planning. You just enter
in and the Lord does things that go way beyond
us. Amen. Absolutely. So how did you get started
in this ministry of worship? Well, Dave and I
have always been involved in music. And then
when we got married down the road, we started
being a part of a worship team at our church.
But Wes was very little at that point. But as
we progressed, there was a season where the church
that we were going to had a healing prayer ministry
that we were asked to lead worship during. And
it was like three hours where they would have
groups of people that were being prayed over
and we would provide worship for three hours.
Wow. Three hours. That's kind of when that was
Dave and I and Wes was still pretty little during
that time. But as he got older, then he felt
led to be a part of what we do. And we felt led
for him to be a part of what we do. Sure. That's
kind of where it was birthed. Then the Lord gave
us the name Three O 'Clock Session one Sunday
morning, even before church. It was confirmed
in a very, very special way that morning at church.
We didn't use that name for a long time, but
there was a time when the Lord said, it's time
to use your name, and it's time to move forward
with Three O 'Clock Session. And this is a perfect
time to also tie in, you know, Good Friday coming
up here just very soon. And at Good Friday, three
o 'clock in the afternoon is when Jesus said
from the cross, it is finished. He gave up his
spirit. But precisely when that was happening,
the veil in the temple was torn supernaturally
from top to bottom. It was a very thick curtain.
prohibiting the common man from entering into
the Holy of Holies. Only the high priest could
go and only once a year. But Jesus paid the price
for the common man who calls upon him and receives
salvation through Christ to have access into
the very holy presence of God Almighty. So that's
our heartbeat. That's our heartbeat. And that's
the glory of God. You know, you think of the
Ark of the Covenant. That was... behind the curtain.
And that was the glory of God there. And so to
have access because of Jesus being the final
sacrifice. Yeah. So that's what we want our ministry
to be all about is God's presence and his glory.
And it is. Absolutely. Isn't that the time of
the evening sacrifice? Yes, I think it is. Yes.
While Jesus was offering the ultimate sacrifice
on the cross over near the temple, The sacrifice
was being offered as it had been for hundreds
of years. And there was that perfect parallel.
God doesn't miss a detail. It's three o 'clock,
three o 'clock. And the session part is there's
musical sessions. I work as a therapist, so there's
therapy sessions. But we want the ultimate session
is a session with the King of Kings, the Lord
of Lords, the wonderful counselor. Yes. Because
everything. All things are possible with him,
and in his presence, miracles take place. Amen.
Amen. I'm reminded of years ago, we used to have
a billboard that our ministry had put up in a
couple of places, and it said, you have an appointment
with God. Yes. Yeah, that's good. Right. And
that's kind of what we, in the word session,
it's an intentional meeting. Let's have a session,
an intentional meeting. It's an appointment to
go in behind that veil that was torn into the
very presence of God and meet with him. And the
beautiful thing is that's the place where we
can just, we can enter into his presence and
the very deepest places of our heart find what
we are longing for. And that is the beauty of
really the Easter message started. with access
into God's presence when Jesus said it is finished.
The Greek word to telestai, paid in full. It's
an accounting term. It means it's like a rubber
stamp that says you're done. Your sins have been
canceled out. They have been paid for in full.
Now you can enter. Now you can come in to the
fullness of the presence of God. So let's have
an intentional meeting, an appointment. with
our wonderful counselor that I was talking about.
Yeah, body, soul, and spirit. We know that salvation
means for body, the soul, and the spirit. So
it's all inclusive. Yes. Yes. Amen. Absolutely.
That reminds me too of, I'm not exactly sure
of the pronunciation, but the word shalom comes
from, and we know that means peace and it means
nothing's missing and nothing's broken, but it
comes from a root word. And I think it's Shalem
or Shalom. I'm sorry, I don't know the exact
words because I wasn't looking to say this, but
it also means paid in full. So the root of peace
is the fact that it's been paid in full. Beautiful.
And that the whole thing is paid in full. And
there's another word that Paul uses in, I think
it's 1 Thessalonians 5, somewhere around verse
20 or 21, where it talks about that your whole
spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless.
And that word whole there is holocleros. And
it comes from two Greek words, olos and kleros.
And olos means whole. And kleros, I think, means
having all its parts. So it's whole having all
its parts. So your whole spirit, soul and body
is preserved blameless. And it has the idea that
everything that's supposed to be there is there.
Even if at one point it was lost, it's been restored.
Beautiful. Yeah, that's what having a session
with the Lord is all about. It's the restoration,
you know. And it's a process. It's not like it
happens overnight. But a big thing happens when
you first get born again, you know. I don't know
why some people get more than others, but, you
know, it's the start of a walk. Yeah. It's the
start of a lifestyle. Yeah. A history with God.
Yeah. You know, it's also, it's really interesting.
I've done some studying on... the presence of
God. And so many things happen in the presence
of God. But one way to just kind of, I won't
say summarize because you can't really, you can't
summarize in a sentence. But one thing I like
to think about is hard things get soft in God.
Yeah, that's good. There's just a whole lot of
things that happen that are moving from disarray
to order, from weakness to strength, from broken
to healed. His presence gives life. And so that's
the heartbeat of what drives us as worshipers.
It's not about the music, although we are musicians
and we do music, but that's an expression. Worship
is about his presence. It's about entering in
and having that love transaction where we tell
him we love him and he loves us. And something
very beautiful takes place just in that process
of basking in the fullness of the Father's love.
Yeah, and it's part that we just love is when
we're loving on him, he's loving on us, when
his glory is there. And that's something that's
very... Important to us when we start worship
is to wait on him to connect and make sure that
he knows that we're going to follow him. We're
going to follow what he's doing. We're going
to look and see what he's doing and follow what
he's doing. And that's when, you know, we've
given him a complete invitation to do whatever
he wants. And that's when the story... does the
heavy lifting. It's like the glory brings an
ease and it does the heavy lifting. And then
we just enter in and amazing things happen. Just
even recently, someone had such a revelation
during their time of worship. And that's what
we want for people and for ourselves. Just, you
know, that body, soul, and spirit can come in
many different ways that God reaches our hearts.
Yeah, just what an individual might need. And,
you know, it's like, it's like, we're just loving
on him. But, you know, he's always loving back.
He's always reaching. He's always speaking. And
so it's just a wonderful mutual exchange. He
loves before we do. Yeah. You know, we love because
he first loved us. Yeah. And I think that's where...
So many folks are missing key ingredients in
the life. You know, I'm noticing some of these
folks that have deconstructed their faith and
walked away from God. And I have to question
how much of a relationship did they get? You
know, I can understand. And I personally, I think
it's good to allow questioning. I think it's
healthy to question because not everything that
we learned in church was scriptural. I mean,
there's lots of traditions, just like the Pharisees
added all kinds of traditions. And Jesus wasn't
happy with that. And he's not too happy with
the traditions that we tout as though they were
scripture. And to be fair to the people that
are pushing them, that's how they were taught.
You know, Philip and I grew up in the church
and we were, taught lots of things, but we've
had to sort through some things that are like,
I don't think that was quite right. But, you
know, because we have a real relationship with
the Lord, it's like, it's not his fault that
somebody who was naming his name didn't get it
right. Yeah. It makes me so sad because it's
like people often don't really know him. They
haven't had a revelation of his unconditional
love, and that's so sad. Yeah, and they think
he's just an angry old man in the sky. He's not
that at all. There's one having fun on Earth.
Let's squash him like a bug. I noticed just recently
a Facebook friend, a guy that I was in college
with, who went on to become actually quite a
scholar. He made a Facebook post, and I thought
what he said was absolutely brilliant. He said,
it's not a bad thing, kind of going back to what
you said, Sharon. It's not a bad thing to challenge
some of the things that we have been taught and
to verify. That's not a bad thing. It can be
extremely healthy and necessary. And he said,
where I would make the distinction as you are.
entering into this phase of, if you want to think
of it as remodeling a house, you know, if you
deconstruct a house, quote unquote, well, that's
fine. You can move a wall between two bedrooms
that's not a load -bearing wall. But if you move
a load -bearing wall, you're in trouble. Yeah.
That we have to be careful when we get into deconstruction.
We cannot give up on the inerrancy. We cannot
give up on the virgin birth. We cannot give up
on who Jesus is. There are certain things. Those
are the load -bearing walls of the Christian
faith. Yeah, that's good. And yes, we can grow
in our ability to defend why we hold those conclusions
as convictions. But to deconstruct those essentials,
we've in essence rejected Christianity at its
foundation. And lots of them have. I was kind
of chatting with somebody about this earlier
today, and we were talking about truth being
the thing that most people that are really honest
in their hearts are seeking truth. And the problem
is that they're tending to measure things with
the wrong yardstick or the wrong scales. You
have to have, as you said, the inerrancy of the
Word of God. You have to have some kind of a...
measuring line or a plumb line that shows you
what is straight. And if you're getting your
information from social media or from television
and movies and whatever mainstream media that's
out there from the world, and you're not getting
it from the source of life, the instruction book
that our father wrote to help us get through
this. You're starting off on the wrong foot.
You're not going to succeed. You know, I think
another really important part of this discussion
is it can't just be head knowledge. Right. It
can't just be a belief system that sits on the
shelf. It has to show up in real life. And we
sometimes talk about in worship. We are actually
growing our experiential apologetic, if I can
coin a phrase. Because when you are sensing that
immersive love of the Heavenly Father and our
spirits, our regenerated, reborn spirits know
that. Our souls are a little slow sometimes to
catch on. But our spirit man is pulsating with
life in worship. When we are able to experience
the love of God and when that environment, when
there's a group of people together pressing into
his presence and worship, there's something that
pushes against all the lies of culture, all the
lies of the deconstruction movement that says,
no, my heart tells me I am experiencing my creator
in this moment right now in real time. Then a
miracle breaks out or something happens that
can't be explained any other way except by the
power and presence of God. Now you've got an
experiential apologetic that links arms with
the knowledge and with the belief system side
of faith where we do need to have reasons for
why we believe what we believe. But I believe
what we're doing and part of our calling with
worship is to help people have that encounter.
to where it's not just a walk of faith that is
head knowledge, but it's a heart reality. Yes,
that's good. Absolutely. Yeah, you could call
it a relational apologetic because it's just
like in any relationship, God's faithful to us.
He's always going to be faithful. And we want
to be faithful back, just like we would be faithful
in a marriage or be faithful just to a friend.
You know, it's a relationship. So when people
walk away, it's like, how could you walk away
from your best friend? Your best friend's going
to be faithful to you forever. Be faithful back.
Yeah, that's true. That's true. So you've just
recently returned from ministering in South Africa.
Tell us about that. Wow. How do we begin? It
was so glorious. We had to cross an ocean. Yeah.
Yeah. It was a wonderful time. And one of the
things that I think we can say is there is a
move of God that's worldwide. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Amen. It was such a thrill to be with people
almost 8 ,000 miles away who love the Lord and
who are passionate about him and just to join
our hearts together. And isn't that a kind of
picture of heaven? It was just a really, really
beautiful time. So we came back. Our hearts are
filled to overflowing. It was such a great experience
being in South Africa. We were actually in a
retreat center that was about 3 ,100 feet elevation
above the Val d 'Or. And, oh my goodness, Wes,
how do you even put into words the scenic beauty
that matched. The theme of the conference, the
clouds rolling in underneath where we were each
morning. That was just stunning. Yeah, there
in the mountains, seeing the clouds roll in.
And one morning I got up pretty early to catch
the sunrise, as did some others. And I saw dad
walking out as well to experience that. And I
saw some clouds kind of follow him. It was as
though. The angelic realm was stirring up some
clouds to welcome Dad or to rejoice with Dad
in our being there and the body of Christ being
there. That creation is of God and that it's
alive and that it partners with us as we partner
with God. So these clouds were rolling in, but
there were these unordinary clouds that kind
of lunged up out from the rest of the clouds
and followed Dad as he was walking. It's quite
notable. Yeah, we were above the clouds. We were
in the mountains and the clouds came in below
us, which was really profound. So it was almost
like, you know, sometimes you'll use an illustration
in a sermon. And that was a living illustration.
It was like, well, you just walk outside your
door and creation. Psalm 19 .1 talks about how
the heavens declare the glory of God. And all
throughout the Psalms, the earth declares the
glory of God. And our retreat theme, we were
leading worship for four days in this setting.
And the theme was, as Wes touched on, it was
just about how our faith, our relationship with
the Lord is so linked with the world, with creation,
with what our creator created out of his heart
of love. For us to enjoy. To enjoy and to partner
with him in stewarding and just reveling in the
beauty of what he created and loving it. It was
just pretty amazing, the whole experience. You
know, just worshiping with people from all different
countries, Australia, New Zealand, or South Africa,
the U .S. Mozambique. Mozambique. Peru, was there
anybody from Peru? It seemed like, anyway, just
the body of Christ from all over the world, gathering
together, worshiping him, loving him. It's a
taste of heaven. It was our first international
trip. Purely to do worship. So it was significant
on that level. We've had international trips
before to Israel, but we weren't going there
to lead worship. That's been a few years ago,
but this was specifically to lead worship. And
what a glorious first experience. Amen. That's
tremendous. You keep saying like heaven, and
I keep thinking, we have a common friend that
has been to heaven, and that's Dean Braxton,
and he's been on this podcast a lot. And I have
appreciated, Wes, your input when we've had him
and other podcasts we've had. I so appreciate
your feedback because it just means a lot to
us, Wes. But the book that Dean wrote, Deep Worship
in Heaven, was life -changing for me. Yes. And
I'm sure you've read it also because, you know,
that's how you are moving is in that kind of
a heavenly realm. I think it's kind of like the
veil gets really thin between heaven and earth
when we're worshiping with that understanding
of what heaven is like when it comes to worship.
That the things that you experience in worship,
it's not just singing a song. And it's not just
dancing or clapping or tapping your toe or whatever.
It's so all -encompassing that your whole being
is meant, spirit, soul, and body, your whole
being is meant to interact with the love of God
and with the things that Jesus did for us. And
the Holy Spirit is helping us in those times
of worship, that it's all about interaction.
It is. And one of the things that is so enormously
satisfying beyond words, it's hard to even describe,
is when we're sensing that wind of the Holy Spirit,
sometimes we'll just try to follow. It's like
putting your kite up in the sky and letting the
wind carry. And Donna, you are really paying
attention to what's happening. as the holy spirit
is directing it's not just let's go through the
song as planned but there's a lot of spontaneous
in the moment that happens because of what you're
talking about sharon what we're sensing is happening
in heaven and you know first chronicles 25 and
elsewhere in the scripture talks about prophesying
on the instruments and there are times where
we kind of get lost we don't know where the song
is going but We're just flowing together. And
it's just so crazy beautiful how the Lord has
a way of expressing things through when we just
yield ourselves. And that's all of us. Yeah.
Ephesians 2 tells us that we're seated with him
in heavenly places. And so we are there. We're
in the throne room with him, you know, positionally
as believers. And so, you know, when we lead,
we're watching. What are you doing, Lord? And
what is heaven doing? And we're going to follow
what heaven is doing, follow what the Lord is
doing in this setting at this moment, and do
our best to follow that. And sometimes he'll
have us focus on a certain lyric and go over
that lyric again and again, because he's doing
something with that lyric that somebody needs
to hear. shifting the atmosphere or shifting
a region or shifting a country or whatever. And
yeah, there's been a lyric that he's kind of
had us camping on for a while the last few times
we've led worship. But it's just so fun to follow
him. And then you get to hear what took place.
Sometimes we'll never know fully, but some people
then share. Like I said, I alluded to earlier,
there was a person that had an inner healing
and an insight into something that they shared.
And so only the Holy Spirit, in following what
he's doing, can we have the results because he's
going to show us where to go and what to do.
Amen. You know, many times we, you know, we don't
fully comprehend what's happening with the people,
you know, when God is doing something like, well,
we had an experience a couple years ago. It was
when we were having our convention here. Yeah,
yeah. And it was a big train wreck. That's what
we call it. When something goes wrong. Yeah,
our one time to lead worship, you know, because
we just stepped back and... You know, I picked
all the music out. You know, you collate it because
you had about 12, 13 different people we had
to have music for. So, you know, you get it laid
out. And, of course, it's always subject to change
because you never know until you're up there
what's going to happen. And we start on this
one piece, and it just sounds different. It's
something's wrong. I said to Sharon, don't you
sing melody on this? And what had happened, the
one sheet of music we had, was in a different
key than everybody else's. And it wasn't the
key we normally use. Because nobody else is playing.
And then the people that play by ear, they start
joining in. And I just say, stop. I've never
done this ever. Just stop. And I reached back
and I grabbed my sister -in -law's copy off the
keyboard, said, let's restart this. And Sharon,
you tell the rest of what was going on. So, you
know, we started the song all over again in the
correct key. We're on the same key. And it looked,
you know, it was fine. But what we found out
later was one of the ladies that was there told
us later, she said, you remember that train wreck
that you had? I had a vision while you're having
that train wreck. And what her vision was, she
saw these stairs coming down with, I think there
was red carpet on the stairs. And there were
angels lining both sides of the stairs. And Jesus
was on his white horse coming down the stairs.
And he came down into the room where we were
and he got off of his horse and he walked over
to a lady named Mercy McJones. She's one of our
members and we've had her on the podcast before.
She's from Nigeria. And he took one of the crowns
off of his head and he put it on her. So if you
think about what that means, that in the midst
of our train wreck, he was crowning Mercy. Wow.
Wow. Wow. And that's how he is. He is so into
mercy and grace. He's trying to get people to
heaven. He's not trying to keep people out. He's
not standing there at the door trying to say,
nope, you didn't check that line off. Sorry,
you can't come in. He's more about strategizing
how to get you there. You know, that's why we
intercede for people that that the Lord will
forgive, that the Lord will, you know, lead people
into repentance, that we ask him to forgive the
sins of people that have hurt us, you know, so
that it's not being held over them. You know,
that's what intercession is all about is getting
in between our father and the people that have
done something wrong. That's what Moses did.
You know, just no, Lord, you can't destroy them
because the Egyptians will hear about it and
think, oh, that God of Israel. Well, he was able
to get him out of Egypt, but he wasn't able to
take him to the promised land. Yeah. You know,
it's about his name and he is the merciful one
and he is the faithful one. And I think it's
Dean that talks about how Jesus is always strategizing.
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we need to get a whole
new mindset about instead of condemning people.
When we see that they're doing something wrong,
that we should be interceding for them. Yeah.
That's such an encouragement for you as worship
leaders, too, for that person to come forward
with that vision. Yes. Sometimes as worship leaders,
you can think, oh, man, I really, we made a big
mistake there. And it's like Jesus says, hey.
Been redeemed. I use everything, just like Dean
even talks about how even when we're. practicing
yes it's not practicing it's worshiping and so
even in the midst of being on the wrong keys
it was your part of worship that jesus saw that
you were in wreck and he made a grand entrance
yeah he made yeah so yeah and that's what he
saw i was just i was just thinking about how
you thought it was a train wreck and mercy saw
his train fill the temple yes oh i like that
excellent That's good. That is good. Hallelujah.
Sometimes in worship, things happen. And, you
know, it's good to be humbled now and then. Yeah.
Something that sometimes I'm the keyboardist
of the group and Dave plays bass and the sound.
Yeah. And Wes is our percussionist. And just
occasionally I'll get so caught up in the spirit,
I kind of lose my place. You know, I'm like,
whoops. I know that feeling. And I want to say
this. It's a little difficult to state exactly
what I'm hoping to communicate here. We do care
about right notes. Don't get me wrong. You know,
that aspect of it. But we care more about where
the worship is going. And sometimes it's necessary
as worship leaders to take prophetic risk. I
actually love those times when Donna... We kind
of think of it as getting into the four -wheel
drive mode. You get off road, and we don't know
where it's going. And it's a prophetic song.
It's something that's never been done. And she's
leading, and Wes and I are doing our best to
follow. And sometimes we may not follow correctly,
but that is okay. And that's one of the things
I believe actually brings delight to the Lord.
is when it's more about the heart of following
in worship than it is about the perfection of
execution in worship. Well said. Anytime we sense
the Lord just saying, okay, let's get off road
here, and it's an adventure. And a lot of times
I'll have a sense, like Wes needs to take it
with the percussion, and you want to speak. on
that a little bit because there is prophecy on
the instruments. And so when Wes takes it, he
plays the cajon, there's some powerful things
that take place. You want to share a little bit
about that or things that people have, you know,
shared that happen when you have done that because
it really cuts through the atmosphere. Yeah.
We found that people are very responsive to the
cajon and the things that are accomplished on
that instrument. And, you know, every instrument
has its voice. It has its particular characteristic,
its quality that lends itself to the spirit because
music is a language. It's a sacred language that
God gave us. And so worship brings godly life
to that language. And so with my instrument.
It does cut through. It does pierce things. And
it's interesting. You look at some of the, oh,
I don't know, Indian cultures or historical cultures,
and drums were very significant for them to accomplish
things. And it's no different for us. I think
when Wes is playing, there are like chains that
get broken off of people, bondages that get broken
off of people. You can just sense it and feel
it. There's an articulation that it's almost
like a knife's edge that's just cutting through.
And I also think about you mentioned Dean Braxton's
book, Deep Worship in Heaven. And he talks in
the book about experiencing a drumbeat in heaven.
Yeah. And sometimes there's nothing else except
just this drumbeat that's going on. And Jesus
in John 519 talks about. He does what he sees
the Father doing. Jesus was living as a man on
earth, fully God, but yet fully man, watching
to see what is my Father doing. And he was doing
on earth what he saw in heaven. So when Wes is
playing his heart out on that cajon, which is
like a... It's not quite a drum, if you're not
familiar with a cajon. It's not a drum set. It's
not a drum set. How would you describe the sound
of it, Wes? I think the easiest descriptor for
it is called a box. That's what it means in Spanish.
Yeah, there you go. People will call it that.
And it's got a great range. But I give enormous
credit to Dad for getting it to sound as good
as it does. It's a great acoustic instrument,
but the way that Dad mics it and... The way he
amplifies it and gets that range of sound out
of it is as much the instrument as anything.
My hands are, I feel that they're guided. I'm
like mom and dad. I'm constantly reading the
room. I'm feeling it out, asking and partnering
with the guidance for how to go about it because
I don't want it to be bang, bang, bang. It's
got to have. sensitivity to it that is real and
that is alive and that is helpful. There are
times when, you know, and that's the thing, it's
being sensitive to what the Holy Spirit's doing.
So there are times that Wes will just gently,
gently play just in being sensitive to what's
happening in the moment. So I appreciate his
sensitivity. And that's what I try to really
pay attention to. There are only three of us,
so we are much more nimble because we're a small
group. And we can follow each other pretty well.
Donna and I have been doing this together long
enough that I can watch her left hand and have
a pretty good idea of what's going on as I'm
playing bass. That's pretty good. This just has
a knack. It's an uncanny knack for knowing where
things are going. But the idea is to be available
for those swells that give. articulation to the
magnificence of God and yet also those dynamics
that are delicate and sensitive and just almost
barely playing or barely singing that are just
in such reverent awe and the stillness. It's
almost like giving a musical expression to stillness
where people are experiencing a rest in their
souls. And that's really just being able to use
that entire range. is something that we feel
is very important and very integral to what we
try to do. Yeah, the sensitivity of the dove.
I like to think that when Dad is playing bass,
you know, he is my dad, and when he's playing
those low frequencies or sustained notes, there's
such a fullness about it. I think of it as the
heart of the father when Dad is playing the bass.
We were blessed about a year, year and a half
ago. On a return trip we were coming back from,
we just felt this urge to go to Asbury. The move
started in Asbury. And we got there at great
timing. God just worked everything out. And it
was the most amazing because you had a guy playing
guitar. He had a piano. And then you had the
student on the cajon. Just above him was this
magnificent drum set in a cage. Drum cage. drum
cage not being used you know it was just the
simplicity of the music and when we were outside
standing to get in they were singing the chorus
of honest day you know the holy are you lord
god almighty yeah and that was going on while
we're waiting to get in and it continued for
quite a long time after we got in it would be
like waves would just would just come And what
it was, it was God meeting these kids right where
they were at. There wasn't anything demonstrative.
Nobody waving banners and running down the aisles
and screaming and maybe doing a cartwheel or
something. No, it was like the presence of God
coming down in a traditional church that didn't
know how to raise their hands. God met them right
where they were at. But even with the cajon,
it was amazing. Just that combination and the
glory was just there. And it's just like, wow.
And I'm sure they were in awe too, the way that
whole thing started. It just started in their
devotion and it just kept going. So it really
is an amazing instrument. I think we need to
get one. Could be we do. Well, I just want to
really express our gratitude to the Lord, first
of all, for connecting us because we have that
similar heart for his presence and wanting to
just lift him high and worship and flow with
the Holy Spirit. So I just want to say thank
you to you, Father, and thank you to you, Dave
and Donna and Wes, as your name is three o 'clock
session together. We bless you, and we really
appreciate that you've come alongside us to help
us to steward the presence of God in this convention
that's coming up. And we really want to encourage
people to come. It's really life -changing to
kind of wade out into the depths of the presence
of God when you get people that are so inclined
that way and have walked together long enough
to just learn to follow. I just think it's an
opportunity that we really encourage people to
join in on. I want to mention your website, right?
You have a website? ThreeO 'ClockSession .com.
Now, is there an apostrophe between the O and
the C in O 'Clock? No apostrophe, and the word
three is spelled out. T -H -R -E -E, Three O
'Clock Session. Okay, we'll make sure we get
that into the show notes. And we do have some
recordings that are available online, Spotify.
YouTube, all the platforms. Yeah, over 150 different
digital platforms. Wow. So for 3 o 'clock session,
you'll find some of the recordings. Yeah, we're
in the middle of recording, trying to. There's
many songs that we do, and we do many original
songs, and we're trying to get them all recorded.
It's hard when we are out worshiping, you know,
and. then we need to come in and have time to
record. Right, right. And you've written a lot
of songs. Do you have any idea how many? I don't,
but a good portion of what we do is all original.
We do like to do some songs that everybody knows
really well, so most of what we do is original.
It would be hard to say for sure, but do you
think 40 or 50, Donna? Oh, I don't know. Want
to put a number on it? I'm always writing. It's
a bunch. Yeah. And sometimes we do songs that
she hasn't written yet. It just comes spontaneously.
Yeah, sometimes. Stronger than the Lord, that
was like a prophetic. I was singing something
totally different. And I just felt this strong
sense to start singing that out. And so that
was what I would call a new song. And a lot of
times. We'll do something like that. And it's
just for that event, just for that moment. But
that song, I felt like was one that was for not
just for that evening, but I needed to grab it.
But the next day I was like, oh, Lord, what chords
did I? And he helped me remember what chords
I was on. And so that's one of the songs that
we do have recorded that a live version of it.
But yeah, sometimes that new song we'll do again
later. But sometimes it's just for that moment.
Yes, and the Lord deserves that. He deserves
something new every moment. And even when you
sing a song that you've sung before, you sing
it in a new way, and it has a new quality. That's
right. We never do the same song the same way
twice. And we want to just also say thank you
to both of you. And we're looking forward to
our time with the Global Outpouring family. And
several times in this visit, we've mentioned
our good friend Dean Braxton. And we've had,
oh my, I don't know how many services we've ministered
together with Dean. And we just love that guy.
And he has such a profound testimony of his experience
in clinically dead, coming back from heaven and
telling the story of what that experience was
like. And then Tony Kemp, another good mutual
friend who is going to be one of the speakers.
And we just would join with you in encouraging
everyone who's listening. If there's any way
that you can make it to the services in St. Louis
at the Marriott Airport, we would love to connect
in person and just believe it's going to be a
very special time. And we just love how you are
God chasers. You're going after, you love him
and you want more of him, more and more and more
of him. Absolutely. Yes, we'll pursue him together.
Yes. Beautiful. I think about what a wealth of
material you have on this podcast, all of the
people that you've had on. Thinking of your question
earlier about takeaways from last year, there
was one highlight that stands out to me. There
was a time when we were in worship and there
was a holy hush that just settled over the whole
place. I don't know if you recall that, but it
was prolonged. It seemed to me that it was very
much participating with what the ministry is
all about and this outpouring that we're all
expectant of, that holy hush before the rupture
of heaven is the sense that I got last year.
That's beautiful. Amen. Well, thank you so much
for joining us today. And we look forward to
seeing you again real soon because it's coming
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Until next time, this is Sharon Buss. And I'm
Philip Buss. God bless you with His overwhelming,
loving presence.