1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,360 How are we victorious over the small things so that we can have the victory in the larger 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,920 victories? 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Because we now know we're confident and that the Lord has trained us. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:20,280 And what better trainer says that he's a mighty man of war and he's going to be there with 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,480 us. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:36,160 And that's what we need to learn as men and women to be bold as a lion. 7 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:41,560 God promises in Joel 2, 28 to pour out his spirit on all humanity. 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Welcome to Global Outpouring. 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,520 Are we content for that promise outpouring? 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,520 We equipped for that outpouring so that we may engage in that very outpouring. 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,920 I'm Philip Buss. 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,920 And I'm Sharon Buss. 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,740 Welcome to the podcast today. 14 00:00:54,740 --> 00:01:00,520 We have with us two very special guests, dear, dear friends of ours, Shirley Smith and Patricia 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Arenas. 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:13,520 And they're going to be sharing with you their experiences in how to be victorious over fear. 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,260 Thank you so much for joining us today. 18 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:17,420 We look forward to this podcast. 19 00:01:17,420 --> 00:01:23,360 This is going to be a wonderful, wonderful opportunity to hear from some victorious people 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,640 how to be victorious. 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,840 But before we get started, we want to encourage you, if you haven't already done so, to please 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:36,320 go to our website, globaloutpouring.net and make sure that you have subscribed to our 23 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:37,840 email lists. 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,560 There are 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have you with us today. 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,200 Thank you. 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Thank you. 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:28,920 I know that both of you are very experienced in walking in places that are, how shall I 40 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,440 say, a bit risky, perhaps? 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Hostile. 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Yes, even hostile. 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Yes. 44 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,960 And so, you know, you've been walking with the Lord for quite a while and the Lord has 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,520 taught you some things. 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,340 So Mama Shirley, we'll start with you. 47 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:50,160 Can you tell us something about how you overcame fear? 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,080 We did a podcast with you quite some time ago and we'll put a link to that. 49 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:01,160 I'll just refer to a couple of stories that you told on that about how your dad was insistent 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,120 to teach you not to fear and to teach you how to trust him by making you jump off the 51 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,320 roof repeatedly into his arms. 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,720 And he always caught you. 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,200 So you learned that you could trust and you've learned to trust your heavenly father that 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,200 way. 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Exactly. 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,200 And something about the alligator. 57 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Yeah, yeah. 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,560 He was a hunter and well, he had a market for frog legs. 59 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,120 And so we frog-hunted a lot and he had, well, he just liked the missing way of the gators. 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,360 And so we always got, that was a challenge. 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Yeah, we always got gators too. 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:42,480 And I had one for a pet and you know, it was about half grown, I guess. 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,480 And I brought it home and he built a little pen for me to put it in. 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,480 And I mean, my sister was in school and I was still home and I was bored. 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:04:00,320 I was a very hyper child and it took my mom and my grandmother both to keep me entertained. 66 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:08,000 And so yeah, and I played with the frogs and I put bonnets on them and I put little jackets 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,520 on them and stuff like that. 68 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Yeah, right. 69 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,120 I would put the gator, but he wouldn't be still long enough. 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:22,360 So you know, I just played with what I had and I had a dog and you know, I was a tomboy. 71 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Yes. 72 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,720 Well, you already had an older sister? 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,720 I did. 74 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,720 Okay. 75 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 And so your dad was expecting to have a boy after a girl. 76 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,520 So right, so he just tried to make me in one, into one. 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,440 And I played that role, you know, all my life growing up. 78 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Because you want to please your daddy. 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,080 Of course, of course. 80 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,320 And I got lots of praise, lots of pats on the back. 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Good girl, great job. 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Good girl, good girl. 83 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,240 The affirmations, you know, it puts a trust in a child. 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,760 It puts confidence in a child. 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Makes them feel loved and accepted. 86 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,520 So I could perform whatever he wanted to do. 87 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,520 I could do it. 88 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Yeah. 89 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Including fighting in school. 90 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,520 You remember everything. 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Oh, I remember that. 92 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,520 I remember you said you were mean as a snake when you were in school. 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Well, yeah, he did. 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,160 He taught me to fight and he would tell me, you know, if those boys on that bus when I 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,160 was a young teen and the boys want to pick at you because they like you, but they want 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,920 to pull your hair away and didn't take much to upset me. 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,040 And I mean, my temper was real short. 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,240 So I get in a fight with them and my dad said, if you come home and those boys, they beat 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,920 you up, you know, what's going to happen to you? 100 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,680 I'm going to beat you up too. 101 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,400 I want you to fight until you see blood. 102 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,680 And that's what I did. 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,280 And I was in the principal's office a lot. 104 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:44,680 I know you've made the devil bleed a lot. 105 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Yeah, right. 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,680 And I, well, you know what I did? 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,440 I just transferred all that over from the natural into the spirit realm. 108 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Right. 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,680 And that really made it a lot easier because I began to understand what warfare was like 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,840 and why we had warfare and how we overcome in warfare. 111 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:07,240 We don't cringe and scared to death, you know, oh, I can't. 112 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Oh, shut up. 113 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,320 You can too. 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:14,240 You know, I just sat in and have patience with people that didn't, that was fearful. 115 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Or I would say, give me a scripture says you can't do that. 116 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:20,280 Oh, I've told my team because, you know, I had a youth team for years. 117 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:23,080 I say, give me a scripture says that you can't do that. 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Oh, my. 119 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,080 That's good. 120 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Look at that. 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,080 And they didn't have one. 122 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Because there isn't one. 123 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,080 Right. 124 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,480 And I said, okay, let me give you one that you can do that. 125 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,920 And that was, I did a lot of teaching like that. 126 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,240 That's good training. 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Very good training. 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Very good training. 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,120 It's like a hands on training. 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Yes, it is. 131 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 That's good, mama. 132 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,520 So Patricia, what kind of things did you go through as a child that prepared you for the 133 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,160 kind of work that you do in the Lord now? 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Awesome. 135 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Thank you for asking, and it's not as dangerous as mama Shirley. 136 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,320 I didn't have those kind of pets. 137 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,120 And I was called princess. 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Oh, so I was the princess of the house. 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,840 But you know, when I went to elementary school, you know, it was a little different for me 140 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,440 because I was the short one. 141 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,440 I was like almost like the runt. 142 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Okay. 143 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:23,240 So when there's always short ones or, you know, they're just are smaller than everyone 144 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,840 else, they kind of pick on you. 145 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Yeah, you get to. 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,640 And as you get older, they become bullies. 147 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Right. 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,600 And you have to learn how to fight for yourself. 149 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,120 And being the princess, I really didn't. 150 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,440 I always had my older sisters, you know, because I didn't have any older brothers. 151 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:47,200 And I had this one sister who was there to come to my rescue. 152 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,960 And she thank God, you know, I learned from her. 153 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,440 But what happened, you know, when I came to the Lord, prior to that, and it was through 154 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,060 my sister, she joined the army. 155 00:08:01,060 --> 00:08:02,060 She was tough. 156 00:08:02,060 --> 00:08:03,280 She was the tough one. 157 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,000 And of course, you know, she went to the little sister and she said, Well, do you want to 158 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,700 join the army too? 159 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:12,480 And I knew that if she's there, you know, I would be okay. 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,280 So of course, I joined and we're not together. 161 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Right. 162 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,120 So of course, I was 17. 163 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,080 My mother and father had to sign for me to go. 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Wow. 165 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,040 I hadn't even finished high school yet. 166 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,520 So of course you go and all of a sudden, there's a lot of bullies there too. 167 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Oh, yeah. 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,320 And you have to learn how to fight and fight for yourself. 169 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,280 And I didn't have the older sister now. 170 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Right. 171 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,680 And they teach you and they train you, but they teach you how to be rough and how to 172 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:51,200 think quickly on your feet, you know, and make wise decisions. 173 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:58,860 And they teach you and train you in the military, because you have to know your enemies, right? 174 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:00,140 You need to know who they are. 175 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:03,880 But you also need to know who are your buddies. 176 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 And you have to learn to work together. 177 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:14,760 And through all of that, when I came to the Lord, almost gosh, I was probably 36 when 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,720 I met the Lord. 179 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,280 And he had to teach me how to do spiritual warfare. 180 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Okay. 181 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,800 And a lot of things I understood through my background in the military, but he also had 182 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,400 to unteach me something. 183 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,400 That's typical. 184 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,320 So it's very typical. 185 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:39,720 But he taught me through the word of God, how to take authority, what to do in those 186 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,920 situations because you're battling an enemy that you normally don't see. 187 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Right. 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:52,040 You learn of him through the word of God and you know that there is an adversary. 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:58,520 And we need to be taught by the Holy Spirit how to fight. 190 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Right. 191 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Amen. 192 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,720 And he does it well. 193 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:08,320 And if he could do that for me, the runt, he can surely do it for all of us. 194 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,320 Amen. 195 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Amen. 196 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,440 And we did a podcast with you before, so we'll also put a link to that one so that our listeners 197 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,800 can go back and catch some more of your story and how you came to the Lord and so on. 198 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:25,440 But we're talking today, it really was not our intention to start a series, but we kind 199 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,060 of did. 200 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:35,040 And we started out two episodes ago with this message about where do you run for refuge? 201 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,640 And of course, we run to the Lord. 202 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Absolutely. 203 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,400 And then our last episode was delivered from fear. 204 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:47,440 And so I just felt like we probably just needed to bang on this anvil one more time. 205 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Let's do it. 206 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Let's beat this horseshoe into shape. 207 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Come on. 208 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:58,360 So Thomas Shirley, tell us something about things in your experience that have been training 209 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:04,680 for you in the spirit realm, things that you had to overcome in order to have a victory 210 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:08,240 over fear and whatever it is that the Lord has put on your heart here. 211 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Oh, okay. 212 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Well, there was two things. 213 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,000 One came earlier before I really knew the word. 214 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,640 And I always thought that the Old Testament was just history, didn't have anything to 215 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,040 do with us today. 216 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,920 And the book of Psalms sound nice, but I didn't know how to appropriate the word because in 217 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,660 the church I was in, they preach but don't teach. 218 00:11:32,660 --> 00:11:37,160 So I didn't really have any teaching or any grounding in the word. 219 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,400 And so my husband worked shift work at the hospital. 220 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,560 I was home a lot of times with my daughters. 221 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:51,840 And I didn't realize until later that the Lord was allowing this to happen to teach 222 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,840 me. 223 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,920 But while he was at work, and at nighttime, and people would flash flashlights through 224 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,320 my windows, they would drag chains on my sidewalk. 225 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,320 Oh my goodness. 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:08,680 I would get I would get really bad phone calls late at night with threatening and just bad 227 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:09,760 stuff. 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,520 And I would just be petrified, petrified. 229 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,760 In the summertime, I wouldn't even turn the air conditioner on, we'd lay there and my 230 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,840 two daughters was we had a big king size bed. 231 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,040 And they would sleep with me and I would fan us until we the girls fell asleep. 232 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Because I was so fearful. 233 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,040 I wouldn't turn the air conditioner on because I couldn't hear anybody if they broke in. 234 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,800 That's what fear is torment. 235 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,800 Yes, it is. 236 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,160 It's torment. 237 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,220 So I was oh, I was so tired of that. 238 00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:42,680 So one night I went to Wednesday night I went over to an assembly of God church. 239 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:48,000 And there was a lady Methodist evangelist wife that was there. 240 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,720 And she was saying that her husband was gone a lot because he's an evangelist. 241 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,040 And that she was very fearful and she was left alone and they had a boy in the neighborhood 242 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,880 that was mental. 243 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,240 And it came to borrow one match from her. 244 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,040 And she was just petrified. 245 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,320 And the Lord took her to Psalms 91. 246 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,680 Oh, yeah. 247 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:14,100 Which I never realized 91 was in there, you know. 248 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:17,000 And so she's talking about how God delivered her from fear. 249 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:23,620 Well, in my neighborhood, we had a boy in our neighborhood that was mental. 250 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:27,960 He walked in the neighborhoods during the nighttime and he was a peeping Tom. 251 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,080 So that's what I could relate to her. 252 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Okay, I could relate to it. 253 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Yeah. 254 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,960 And that was the thing about the windows. 255 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,840 And I could relate to what she was and I got very religious. 256 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,200 I said, now, listen, I am not Methodist, but I am an A.O.G. 257 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,280 I know that if you're going to give that to her, this is religious pride. 258 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,880 And I said, I know you'll let me use it too. 259 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,920 So I started using that and it started working. 260 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Glory to God. 261 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Wow. 262 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,600 This really, really works. 263 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:07,960 There was a test that came after I began to learn who I was and my authority. 264 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,360 And you had to call on the Lord. 265 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,480 But anyway, it got really bad. 266 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,760 I got a lot of bad phone calls late at night because I was alone and with just my daughters. 267 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,720 And so these guys would call and tell me they were coming over. 268 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,720 My husband was gone. 269 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,960 All the things they wanted to do. 270 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,200 And I would just shake again. 271 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,080 That was the second trying time, you know. 272 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:35,260 And then Brother Hagen, I began to listen to him about our authority as a believer, 273 00:14:35,260 --> 00:14:42,240 you know, and he began to talk about different types of spirits and how they operated and 274 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,560 how they would speak to you and how they would threaten you and what the nature of those 275 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,560 spirits were. 276 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,800 And I thought, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that one. 277 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,620 I know that one, you know. 278 00:14:52,620 --> 00:14:58,820 And so I began to identify with what he was teaching and the scriptures that he gave 279 00:14:58,820 --> 00:15:01,080 us to go with that. 280 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,920 And so I was getting ready. 281 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,480 And I thought, oh, he just calls again. 282 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,840 And so I told my husband, I said, he's fixing to change shifts. 283 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,720 And I said, let's don't tell anybody that you're changing shifts and let's see if I 284 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,280 get a phone call. 285 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,800 So we had a neighbor across the street that asked him to come and ride with him. 286 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:26,440 He was in flight training to come ride with him while he was picking up some hours. 287 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,640 And my husband said, I really don't have time. 288 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,800 And he kept pressuring him and pressuring him. 289 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,360 And James said, well, I have this to do and that to do. 290 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,640 And finally, James said, I changed shifts at four and I just can't do it. 291 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,240 I don't have time. 292 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,080 He was the only one who knew that James was changing shifts. 293 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,480 He was gone about 20 minutes to work. 294 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,800 And I got the phone call. 295 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Wow. 296 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,640 By then I had learned a few things. 297 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,440 And I said, yeah, come on over, come on over. 298 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,600 I'm waiting on you because you have a spirit of lust and I've got the spirit of God and 299 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:08,320 I got that knowing I'm going to cast that thing out of you. 300 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,320 And that was it. 301 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,520 Oh, you talking about heyday. 302 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Oh, Lord. 303 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Because I had done learned that I had got him give me a spirit of fear, but power, love 304 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,480 and a sound mind. 305 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,480 That's right. 306 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,480 And so, honey, I didn't get any more phone calls. 307 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,760 Wow, glory to God. 308 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,360 So I just conquered fear just one at a time. 309 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Because these tests kept coming and I didn't know God was getting me ready for bandits, 310 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,720 you know, in Mexico and all the wild stuff. 311 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,720 But he did. 312 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,840 He was already had me in training and right there in my own house. 313 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,840 That's right. 314 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,240 And so that's the way I started out with this. 315 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Okay, okay, okay. 316 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,560 Now you can't refer to that and not tell us that story. 317 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,480 So what happened with bandits in Mexico? 318 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,480 I loved it. 319 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,480 That's so powerful. 320 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,480 It was great. 321 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,480 It was powerful. 322 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:04,000 Well, my father, like I said, was a very strict disciplinarian. 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,160 And so when I met the man who was the head of the Bible school in Monterey, he was just 324 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,920 like my father, but he was a spiritual man. 325 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,600 And he would just jerk me up and tell me you're going to do this. 326 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,600 And I said, No, I'm not. 327 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,520 And he said, Yes, you are. 328 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,640 And one night we was in a bull ring and in Cataracta. 329 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,120 But not with a bull? 330 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,120 No, not with a bull. 331 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:28,120 But he had rented the bull ring. 332 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:29,120 Okay, I wanted to clarify. 333 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,120 It's different animals. 334 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:34,240 No one would have doubted me if he'd had a bull in there. 335 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,240 I'll tell you. 336 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,680 Because he was just that dynamic and just that bold and just that daring. 337 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,840 He was like my daddy, but spiritual. 338 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,320 So it was for a crusade? 339 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Yes. 340 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Yes. 341 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Oh, yeah. 342 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,560 And he just rented it and had an evangelistic meeting. 343 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,080 He brought a lot of the students that came along that night. 344 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 And so you never knew when you were going to speak. 345 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,840 So you always had to be prepared. 346 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,320 So when we got there, he said, Sister Smith, you're preaching tonight. 347 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,080 Okay. 348 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,560 And so I got the microphone. 349 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,560 He said, No, give me the mic. 350 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:15,000 And he said, Before you start, he said, There's a man who is demon possessed. 351 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,640 And he said, I told the pastors that we would pray for him before the meeting started. 352 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,640 So we're going to pray for him. 353 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,880 I said, Well, I'm not. 354 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,400 And he said, Oh, yes, you are. 355 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,680 And I said, Oh, no, I'm not. 356 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,560 I don't know anything about that. 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,560 And I'm not doing it. 358 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,840 And he said, Don't you ever tell me that. 359 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,280 Don't you ever speak like that to me in my presence. 360 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Don't you ever show fear of a devil in my presence. 361 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Wow. 362 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,120 And boy, he just started jerking me around with words. 363 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:39,120 That slack out. 364 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:40,760 And I could just hear my father. 365 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,200 I'm going, Yes, sir. 366 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Yes, sir. 367 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:49,960 And so he brought the guy up, you know, and and so the guy's on the ground and I'm on 368 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,780 a wooden platform. 369 00:18:51,780 --> 00:18:56,680 And so I was over just looking at him and praying, you know, and all of a sudden his 370 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,560 shirt started doing this. 371 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,720 Okay, so you're pulling on your shirt up and put my shirt was his shirt was moving up and 372 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,040 down. 373 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,840 And so I fell to the wind. 374 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,480 I didn't feel any wind. 375 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,800 My clothes wasn't moving. 376 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,040 The students came up and they said, I don't know, I mean, sister, look, and they started 377 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,040 doing their shirt. 378 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,080 And they said, What is this? 379 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,920 And I went, I don't know. 380 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,520 And I said, Okay, God, what is what's going on? 381 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,680 What is this? 382 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,200 Why is his shirt moving? 383 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Why is his stomach jumping? 384 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,440 And he said, The demons fear and tremble in my presence. 385 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,960 Oh, I shouted all over the platform. 386 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,920 Pastor Dawson said, settle down, settle down, settle down. 387 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,920 What's going on? 388 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,600 I said, Oh, you know what God said? 389 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,840 And I told him and he just laughed because he was used to that, you know. 390 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,320 And so we get ready to do the deliverance and the man gets his hands up and I don't 391 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,240 know anything about Spanish at that time, you know. 392 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,720 And so I reached up and caught his hand. 393 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,720 He went, Calleante, Calleante. 394 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,800 What's wrong with him? 395 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,800 And so I would catch his hand again. 396 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,800 And he called Calleante, which means hot, hot, hot. 397 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:17,640 You know, I didn't realize I was grounded in him. 398 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,080 He was on the ground and I was on wood and I was shucking the fire out of him and I could 399 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,080 see sparks. 400 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,640 You know, and I thought it was the Holy Ghost. 401 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,760 I thought it was the anointing and I went, well, the anointing sure is strong tonight. 402 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,480 You know, I didn't know any different. 403 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,800 So I told Brother Dawson, I said, a man is saying that he's hot. 404 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,400 I said, but you know, he's on the ground because I knew about electricity because my father 405 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,400 taught me that. 406 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,160 And I said, he's on the ground and I'm up here and I'm shocking him. 407 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,760 And I said, he said, oh, that's why he's saying Calleante. 408 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,240 And he just laughed and laughed and he thought that it was so funny. 409 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,720 So he sent the guy back because he just lost it. 410 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,440 He laughed so hard, he couldn't even get in the mood to pray anymore. 411 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,320 So anyway, I preached the sermon that night and everybody came and it was, oh, it was 412 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,320 so awesome. 413 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,320 It was like popcorn. 414 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,560 The healings were like popcorn. 415 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Glory to God. 416 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,800 They were so fast, you couldn't even record it. 417 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,800 Wow. 418 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,100 And, and I remember this one lady just grabbed me. 419 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:21,800 Her knees was all messed up and I prayed and God healed her and she picked me up and 420 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,080 tried to start walking around with me. 421 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,360 Almost dropped me and I grabbed the stage. 422 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:31,320 And by the time I looked at Brother Dawson, he's six, four. 423 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,120 He's great, big, tall, slim. 424 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:34,680 He leaped off the platform. 425 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,720 There was three men with crutches and he grabbed one and took off running. 426 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,140 I'm thinking, oh, lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit. 427 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:45,080 That's American thinking, you know? 428 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,440 And so, and so he just kept running. 429 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560 He, he come back around and turned him loose and the man kept running. 430 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,440 He went back and grabbed the other one. 431 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,720 He took off running with him, did the same thing. 432 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,880 All three men got healed. 433 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,880 Oh my God. 434 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,800 That's the kind of miracles I got exposed to. 435 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:07,240 So my faith was just quickly developed and just over the top. 436 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Oh yeah. 437 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,360 So I had all that under my belt before I ever went to the mountains. 438 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:14,360 Okay. 439 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,360 And that's where the bandits were. 440 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,360 Yes. 441 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:17,360 Yes. 442 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,360 Yes. 443 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:19,360 Then what happened? 444 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,920 Well, on this particular trip, we were going down and that Haley's Comet, y'all probably 445 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,240 remember that when it was manifesting or whatever you want to call it. 446 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,640 And well, you could see the gold dust kind of coming from that. 447 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,360 You remember that Haley's Comet? 448 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:33,360 Yeah. 449 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:38,160 And so the Lord told me that day to watch the heavens and we looked, I did, we watched, 450 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:45,480 we watched the comet and we got into Mexico and it was real, real hazy over Monterey and 451 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,920 you really couldn't see anything then. 452 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:53,600 So when we left Monterey and went on into the mountains and my husband was driving, 453 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240 it was long, long, long trip. 454 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,840 And my husband was pretty heavy on accelerator anyway. 455 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,720 And so we were flying through those Sierra Madre mountains and those hairpin curves. 456 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,080 I mean, it was like this. 457 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,460 And I remember we had a friend that she was always pleading the blood, pleading the blood. 458 00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:13,320 And I said, Barb, you've pled the blood 10 times. 459 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:19,360 She said, shut up, Shirley, one more coat don't hurt. 460 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,720 She was so scared of this trip. 461 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720 We had a lot of fun. 462 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,880 Anyway, and I was, everything was flying around and Lord kept telling me, watch the heavens, 463 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,880 watch. 464 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,880 I said, I have it. 465 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,880 I see nothing. 466 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,880 What do you want me to see? 467 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,080 I can see cactus. 468 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,640 I can see goats and I see donkeys and I see all of this scenery. 469 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,080 And I said, what do you want me to see? 470 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,640 And so he said, look up. 471 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,720 I looked up in the heavens. 472 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,840 I saw all these white things up in the sky. 473 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,920 I said, Lord, what is that? 474 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Oh, I shouldn't have asked. 475 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Zoom. 476 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:07,280 This humongous angel comes down on the back of this white dove, like about, I don't know, 477 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,680 25 or 30 foot wingspan right alongside our truck. 478 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Cause we had a truck with a camper on the back and us ladies put a mattress back there 479 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,080 and we'd ride in the back. 480 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,600 And it was right alongside our truck. 481 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,600 And he had long hair. 482 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,040 He had high cheek, deep set eyes. 483 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,040 He had a real square chin. 484 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,920 I've seen them several times since then, but I mean, his features is very distinct and 485 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,040 his hair was about shoulder length and kind of semi curly. 486 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:45,440 And he had a rain, holding the reins, then went through the mouth of the dove and he 487 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,880 was just riding right alongside our vehicle. 488 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,320 I was just screaming, just one scream after another. 489 00:24:53,320 --> 00:25:00,680 I was in shock and I was screaming and screaming and, and I turned and I looked at first, I 490 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,840 looked away from him because I was in shock and I looked back and he looked at me right 491 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,880 straight in the eyes and threw his head back and laughed and zoomed and went up. 492 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,200 Wow. 493 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,680 And I thought I would have a heart attack. 494 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,920 I mean, my heart pounded so hard. 495 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000 I like to have never physically got control. 496 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720 And then I still didn't have my English. 497 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,840 All I could do is just, my teeth were just chattering, everything. 498 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280 And all I could do was speak in tongues, speak in tongues. 499 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,120 And I thought the English would come sooner or later and I can tell them, you know, what's 500 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,600 going on. 501 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,400 And so when finally, it took me a long time to finally, cause that was a very shocking 502 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,520 instant thing that happened that I was not expecting. 503 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,720 And so when I finally calmed down and got my English back and they were asking me what 504 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280 was wrong with me, what happened? 505 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,920 And I was trying to explain and the other lady said, Oh no, no, no, no, it was not. 506 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:00,920 It was not an angel. 507 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320 It was a Cobra snake. 508 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,320 What? 509 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 That's what I said. 510 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Cobra snake. 511 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,540 And we were going into the mouth of the, I said, no such a thing. 512 00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:14,920 It was an angel on the back of a dove and we had this big difference. 513 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280 And I said, okay, everybody just drop it. 514 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,280 We're not going to talk about it. 515 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,640 I don't understand it. 516 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,440 We're not discussing this anymore. 517 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Just drop this up. 518 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,440 So we did. 519 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,800 So when we got to Jose's house, whose we worked with, he was our missionary. 520 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,640 He said, well, there was no phone in the village and there's no way to ever contact him, let 521 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,640 him know when we're coming. 522 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,360 But God always gave him a vision or a dream and he always was ready when we got there. 523 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440 So he already had the horses and everything ready. 524 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080 And he said, I have a new village to go to. 525 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,640 And he said, would you all go with me? 526 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,720 We said, sure, sure. 527 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,880 So we said, I got the animal. 528 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,560 So we all loaded up the next day and we were on the mules and we were going through there. 529 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:05,760 And I saw these men and they had machete knives and they had pistols on their hips and they 530 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,760 had masks on their face. 531 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040 And I thought, this is a weird looking bunch. 532 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,560 And I thought, hmm, they sure dress different here. 533 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,560 That's all I thought. 534 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,640 Because in different parts of Mexico, they do dress different. 535 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,320 And I thought, they dress different here. 536 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,760 And I wasn't frightened. 537 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,000 I wasn't alarmed. 538 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,280 I wasn't thinking anything about it really. 539 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,040 But I thought, well, I thought the machete is, they probably cut their way through the 540 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,800 woods, through the mountains here, because this is the Sierra Madres. 541 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200 And I think the guns is wild animals. 542 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,400 They probably use the guns for that. 543 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,520 I could reason out why they had these weapons. 544 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,440 And so we went on in and there's a whole bunch more dressed just like them. 545 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640 And we stayed two or three days. 546 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,640 I forget how many it was. 547 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440 It was just like over a weekend. 548 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,800 And so when we came back out, they were very friendly. 549 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,640 They killed a goat and made us all these delicious dishes. 550 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880 It was delicious. 551 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,120 And they gave us their beds. 552 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:13,720 And this old grandmother slept in the corn crib and let us have her bed. 553 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480 That's how precious those people are. 554 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:22,640 Well, so Barb Wayne slept in another one and the mattress kept rattling and rattling. 555 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440 They said, there must be corn chucks in here. 556 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320 And they pulled it up and it was a leopard skin. 557 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Oh man, Barb freaked. 558 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,840 Wow. 559 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,840 Because it was a wild animal. 560 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,880 It was a leopard skin. 561 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720 But anyway, it was a lot of new things. 562 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640 We'd never encountered anything like that before. 563 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,240 And so the day we got ready to leave, well, Barb was talking to Jose and she said, Jose, 564 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,200 while we were here, you kept using the word bandito, bandito. 565 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,800 She said, were you talking about when you were abandoned and you were in prison and you 566 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,800 got saved? 567 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120 You gave him your testimony and he said, no. 568 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640 She said, well, were you talking about bandits? 569 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,640 And he said, no. 570 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,120 She said, well, yes, you were. 571 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,560 You kept using that word. 572 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,480 He said, no, Sister Barb, I was talking to the bandits. 573 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,480 She said, what? 574 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120 I was talking to the bandits. 575 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,120 You mean to tell me that where we just came from, those are bandits because they all had 576 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,400 bounties on their head. 577 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400 They were all wanted. 578 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,880 They'd all went back in there and built this village to escape from the law. 579 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,440 And then he told us everything, you know, all he told us all of that. 580 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,120 And so she slapped my mule and she said, run, Shirley, run. 581 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760 I said, well, Barb, we've already gone and come out. 582 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,760 We didn't get killed. 583 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,760 We're okay. 584 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,420 So we was riding along there on this mule and I said, God, would you explain a few things 585 00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:47,420 to me? 586 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:50,280 Would you tell me what all this is about? 587 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600 And he said, remember that angel I showed you? 588 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,600 And I went, yeah. 589 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480 The one I nearly had a heart attack over. 590 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920 And he said, yeah. 591 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,040 And he said, he protected you while you were there. 592 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,720 And that cobra snake was the bandits village that you went in because these are deadly 593 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720 people. 594 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720 It's like the cobra snake is. 595 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,720 Wow. 596 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,720 That's amazing. 597 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,400 So you each saw something. 598 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Don't you love it? 599 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,840 Each of you saw something that was a part of. 600 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Yeah, I saw the angel and she saw the cobra snake in the truck that night. 601 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720 And I kept, you know, I like to never got my English, but when I finally did it, I was 602 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600 trying to explain to them what I just saw. 603 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,760 She was going down and she was as upset as I was because she had just seen a cobra. 604 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,800 And so it's walking into its mouth. 605 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,800 Wow. 606 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Yeah. 607 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560 They both saw what was going to happen. 608 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560 Yeah. 609 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,160 But you know, three months later, God called me back there again and I took a team of young 610 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,160 people. 611 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Wow. 612 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160 I did. 613 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280 I'm going, God, are you sure? 614 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840 I don't know about confirmations in the word. 615 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,440 He gave me confirmations and he said, I want you to take balls. 616 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,580 I said, we are not going on vacation, Lord. 617 00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:02,040 We are going to witness. 618 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,780 We're going to preach. 619 00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:05,360 We're going to be missionaries. 620 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800 And he said, take, take the balls. 621 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,400 I said, I don't have any, I don't have money to buy any because I wasn't wanting to do 622 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,400 that. 623 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,900 And he said, call the schoolhouse and they'll give you some. 624 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:17,900 I said, they don't even know me. 625 00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,280 I don't have any kids to go to school. 626 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,960 But anyway, I called the school. 627 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,400 They said, we're just cleaning out everything, all of our gymnasium and getting rid of all 628 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,080 of our balls and bats and stuff and getting new equipment and just come get all that you 629 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,080 want. 630 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,080 Wow. 631 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,080 Look at that. 632 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,680 So I got bags, got toe sacks and got bags of them, you know, put them back in the truck 633 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,000 and took them down and we tied them onto the mules and took them back into the village. 634 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,000 Wow. 635 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120 And they were so excited to see us. 636 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,680 So when we got there, they boys started playing baseball and it was a bunch of bandits. 637 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680 I guess they might've been new ones. 638 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680 They came out of nowhere. 639 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,680 I don't know. 640 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600 They was way over here somewhere and they heard everybody running and hollering and 641 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,720 playing and they come up and they were hanging on the fence watching, you know, and they 642 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,880 said, we want to play. 643 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,880 We want to play. 644 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,080 I was, I said, no, you don't come to service and you can't play. 645 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080 Oh, we'll come to service. 646 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,080 That is so good. 647 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080 I love it. 648 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120 They came that night and they got saved that night. 649 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Glory to God. 650 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Wow. 651 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,480 I love it. 652 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,560 I know, but I won't tell this one though, but cause this one was just crazy. 653 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600 I'm telling you, I've never done anything like it, but I wouldn't say I wouldn't do 654 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,600 it again. 655 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,600 I don't know. 656 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,440 Just depending on how the Lord moved. 657 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,200 But when we went back, one of my boys was praying before we, before service started 658 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,680 and he said, he said, I saw a cobra snake and it was coming to the village here. 659 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,880 And I said, that's okay. 660 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040 I never tell them what we, what happened before on the first trip. 661 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,040 I said, that's okay. 662 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,800 We'll pray and God will take care of it. 663 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,880 Don't worry about it. 664 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,880 So we prayed. 665 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840 And so Jose and I always dig tag teaching. 666 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,760 So we had a 50 gallon drum with a cold old lamp on top. 667 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,760 That was what we had for light. 668 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:11,720 But there was a real full moon that night and we had a lot of lights, moonlight and 669 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,720 the air is crystal clear there. 670 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160 I mean, there's no smile and you can see everything. 671 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,920 You even see your shadow at night. 672 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400 So Jose was preaching and then I'll preach for a while. 673 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,120 And I gave it back to him and up rides these three men. 674 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,860 And the Lord said, that's the Cobra. 675 00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:37,080 So we had a big long log that we didn't have enough seats for everybody. 676 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,080 It was big, long, long. 677 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160 And they came and sat down. 678 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:46,480 I don't know what happened to me, but something just began to rise up at this righteous indignation, 679 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720 this anger, whatever it was. 680 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400 I said, I need the microphone. 681 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160 He looked at me like you've already had your turn, you know? 682 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160 And I said, I need the microphone. 683 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,320 He said, okay. 684 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,480 I said, follow me. 685 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,920 So we went over and I said, I got right down in their faces. 686 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,760 Oh my. 687 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,280 I know who you are. 688 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,120 I know why you're here, but I also know that the angel of the Lord is here and will strike 689 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,120 you dead if you dare to think that you'll touch anybody in this place. 690 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,120 You understand me? 691 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,120 Wow. 692 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,600 And I hand the microphone back to him. 693 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480 He looked at me like, my God, what is sure? 694 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120 He never knew what I was going to do and I didn't either. 695 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480 So anyway, the host says, got it. 696 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480 He's preaching again. 697 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,480 And I went, God, that felt good. 698 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,400 I said, I think I'll do it again. 699 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,760 I got up. 700 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,440 I'm sitting back, kind of back against the building. 701 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,640 They're sitting out here on this log and I walked right up to him and he leaned back 702 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,640 like this. 703 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640 And I got right down and I said, look at me, devil, look at me. 704 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,640 You are bound. 705 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,840 You understand that you are bound and you can't touch us. 706 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,840 You understand that devil? 707 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440 And he just looked at me. 708 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,440 I was trying to walk down. 709 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,400 I went and got me a drink of water and I come back and I sat down and I went, God, that 710 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,400 felt good. 711 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,960 I'm going to do it again. 712 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,480 I got up and I went back. 713 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,720 God's my witness. 714 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:18,280 And I went back and I talked to the second one and I got right down and that mask was 715 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,280 on. 716 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,600 I got right down in his face and I said, devil, tell you something. 717 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,080 You come up here to harm us, but you can't touch us. 718 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,480 You couldn't touch us with a 50 foot pole. 719 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880 You understand me devil? 720 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,000 And I gave him a good talking to and I left and went across and I come back and I thought 721 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,520 I'm going to get the third one. 722 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,360 So my kids were watching me do all this. 723 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,720 Are you doing this in English? 724 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,160 And did you have an interpreter? 725 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,960 No, you just talking to the devil. 726 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,960 You're talking to the devil. 727 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,960 The devil understood English. 728 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,960 Of course he does. 729 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,960 Of course he does. 730 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,200 Just want to clarify the story. 731 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,200 That's good. 732 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,080 So anyway, I went to the third one and he was so scared by then he fell off and blowed 733 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080 backwards off the log. 734 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120 So fun. 735 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120 Glory to God. 736 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120 Where's my jawbone? 737 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,360 But let me tell you how you can come be cut back down to size. 738 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,360 Oh my. 739 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360 That night we got ready to go to bed and I saw a bug I'd never seen before. 740 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,040 I freaked out. 741 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040 And I said, I am not sleeping in that room. 742 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,040 After all that. 743 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040 Oh my God. 744 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,720 What happened? 745 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,840 Well he just took all that pride out of me. 746 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040 It's what he did. 747 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,480 I couldn't handle the bug. 748 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,200 Oh, that's funny. 749 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,720 But it was the Holy Spirit in you that brought you into that place of boldness. 750 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,040 Oh, absolutely. 751 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,760 And you had learned that by the word of God, right? 752 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,960 Yeah. 753 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,760 And by jumping off the house. 754 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,760 And your pets. 755 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,760 And my pets. 756 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,760 Yeah. 757 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,440 I mean, my father really groomed me for the mission fail without ever knowing that he 758 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,440 did. 759 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,440 Yeah. 760 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,240 And Brother Dawson almost killed me after I got there. 761 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,320 You know, he would just put me wherever. 762 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,760 You know, let me just bring a little clarity here. 763 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,920 It's easy for us to look at your upbringing and say your dad was abusive. 764 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,480 But it was preparing you for what you were going to do as an adult for God. 765 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,480 Right. 766 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Right. 767 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,120 So, listener, perhaps you have been through some abusive situation. 768 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,960 Let God turn that around for you. 769 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520 And make it your platform. 770 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,520 And your strength. 771 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,520 Yes. 772 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Amen. 773 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,840 Go right on. 774 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,840 Absolutely. 775 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840 Yeah. 776 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,400 What I loved what you said, Mama Shirley, is that it was little by little. 777 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:06,280 And that's how we learn how to fight, how to battle in a spiritual warfare. 778 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,200 The training that you said to God since you were a child unto adulthood, it had to be 779 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,040 a little bit at a time to get you to that confidence. 780 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Right. 781 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,840 I mean, we see that even as you're speaking to us right now, the confidence and the boldness. 782 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,200 But it was the Spirit of the living God to speak through you. 783 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,600 You allowed the Holy Spirit to just be full measure in you. 784 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600 And the devil did recognize. 785 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,600 Yeah. 786 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,600 And you feel it. 787 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,160 You feel it in your spirit, man. 788 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,160 You feel the anointing. 789 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,200 You feel the boldness. 790 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,720 And you feel, I mean, I feel like just really physically take them guys down. 791 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:48,720 Yes. 792 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,720 Amen. 793 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,320 But it wasn't because you knew how to fight in school. 794 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,800 It was because of something that came in with the Holy Spirit. 795 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,800 Amen. 796 00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,800 Okay. 797 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,920 Because I want to encourage people that are timid, that don't have that kind of upbringing, 798 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,380 that just because they haven't had that kind of upbringing or that kind of experience, 799 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:12,320 the righteous are as bold as a lion. 800 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,320 Yes. 801 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:19,320 So the other half of that is the wicked flee when no man pursues, but the righteous are 802 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,480 as bold as a lion. 803 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:31,160 And I think we have to recognize, and I'm not one that came up with that kind of training. 804 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,920 And it was always be nice, behave, be a good girl. 805 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,200 Although, I was the tree climber of the family. 806 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200 I was the tomboy, you know, but I didn't have that boldness. 807 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,400 I didn't have a bold bone in my body, really. 808 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,360 But I began to get ahold of that scripture, the righteous are as bold as a lion. 809 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,360 Amen. 810 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:01,200 And for me, it takes the Holy Spirit to make me bold. 811 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,080 Because it's not in my nature to be bold. 812 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,080 I mean, I'm not afraid to stand in front of 30,000 people to speak. 813 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,760 That doesn't bother me a bit. 814 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,560 There's no fear there. 815 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,480 But I'm more likely to be fearful if I'm in a situation with a one on one, like if I have 816 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880 to start a conversation. 817 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,000 That's where it's like, I'm not going to start a conversation. 818 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 Come on. 819 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,940 Somebody else can start the conversation and I'll have a conversation. 820 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:34,640 But what I'm saying is that different people have a different background and different 821 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,940 situations. 822 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:42,840 And what we can learn from each other is that there is that place in God where there is 823 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,880 a boldness and you can stand up and do something that you don't think you can do if God tells 824 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,600 you to do it. 825 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,000 If God tells you to do it, if God gives you that, or if you have a brother Dawson who 826 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,560 says, oh, yes, you will. 827 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,800 Or if they have a mama Shirley that says, show me a scripture that says you can't. 828 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,040 Yeah, that's absolutely right. 829 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,640 You know, we have to we have to get it in our thinking. 830 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:16,120 We have to get kingdom thinking that the King gives us orders that we can do. 831 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,980 He's not going to ask us to do something that we can't do. 832 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:26,560 Or maybe he's going to ask us to do something that we think we can't do, but we can with 833 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,560 him. 834 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,560 Right. 835 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,560 Right. 836 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960 Because Jesus said, Jesus said, without me, you can do nothing. 837 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400 Absolutely. 838 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,880 And he's right. 839 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,120 He's absolutely right. 840 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Without him, we can do nothing. 841 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,080 And we've probably all had experiences where we've tried to do something that wasn't him 842 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080 and didn't succeed. 843 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,080 Didn't succeed. 844 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,080 Yeah. 845 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,800 And you brought up an excellent point. 846 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,160 And what you said was, you know, we're all different. 847 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,800 And we didn't have the experiences as mama Shirley has had. 848 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520 But it reminded me of David. 849 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,520 Right. 850 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,000 He came to the battlefield and the King, King Saul wanted to give him his armor. 851 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,200 And he even tried it on. 852 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:13,880 I mean, I could do some of the things that mama Shirley has done, but if it doesn't fit, 853 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,880 I can't war in that. 854 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,160 I have to be trained. 855 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:24,040 And he was trained by the Lord in a place where you would have, who is he going to protect? 856 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,080 But it was the lions and the bears and everything else. 857 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:32,920 And it just reminded me of that, that the training that we have from the Lord is unique 858 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,360 to each and every one of us. 859 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,600 And we have to know our own armor. 860 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880 We have to put on our own armor. 861 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,080 We have to learn how to fight the way he reveals to us. 862 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,080 It's very important. 863 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080 It's true. 864 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,480 Otherwise we can lose the battle and not only get yourself harmed, but those that are with 865 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,480 you. 866 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,120 So we need to be trained. 867 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,120 Right. 868 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,200 But hearing other people's experiences gives us a boldness, gives us a hope. 869 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200 Yes, absolutely. 870 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,200 There's hope. 871 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,480 Okay, if she can do it, I can do what God told me to do. 872 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,840 So good. 873 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840 Yeah. 874 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,760 So what experiences have you had, Patricia, that have given you this understanding of you 875 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,320 have the victory? 876 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,320 Absolutely. 877 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,720 Well, definitely, you know, learning how to wield our sword, learning the word of God. 878 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:24,720 Yes. 879 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,480 You've got to know the word of God. 880 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,560 If you do, then you can use that sword. 881 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,560 Right. 882 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,560 It reminds me of that. 883 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,040 I forget he was the son of Dodo. 884 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,960 And he went and he fought and fought so much that even the blood just wielded itself on 885 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,960 the sword. 886 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,960 Yeah. 887 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480 They had to pry his hands off from that. 888 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280 And that's how we are with the word of God. 889 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,240 So when the enemy comes to your door. 890 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,240 That's right. 891 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:58,480 And he has done that many times, you know, to each and every one of us, like you said, 892 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,680 those abusive situations, you know, there's so many out there that they're abused either 893 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:10,520 by a family member or with all these other things that are happening in the world. 894 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,360 How do we fight against that? 895 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:20,120 You know, and I've learned how to do that only through the word of God. 896 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,600 There's just no other way. 897 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,280 It was awesome. 898 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,160 You said it was victorious over fear. 899 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,880 And mama Shirley said earlier in her testimony, you need to know who you are. 900 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,880 That's right. 901 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:42,520 And if we don't have that identity as to who we are, and we'll never be confident enough 902 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,400 or bold enough. 903 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:51,520 And I want to encourage, especially the women that are listening, that the Lord has a purpose 904 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120 for you. 905 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,640 And your purpose is to be victorious. 906 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,760 And when you have fear, it turns into faith. 907 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,960 When we hear testimonies like mama Shirley or myself or others that come on these podcasts, 908 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,160 my goodness, it should build up our faith. 909 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,460 And even says build up your most holy faith. 910 00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:15,940 And those are the tools. 911 00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:22,120 Those are the weapons of our warfare, as I spoke about in 2 Corinthians chapter 10, verse 912 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:30,480 four and five, we need to utilize and sharpen those weapons, because they're always going 913 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:37,480 to be used in whatever situation it might be in your front door, like it happened with 914 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,000 Jayel or Yael in the story with Deborah. 915 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,320 Deborah was in the front lines. 916 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,000 She was there. 917 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,640 But that mama was in her tent. 918 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,160 It was like the stay home moms, but you're learning how to fight in your home. 919 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,000 I call them the foxholes. 920 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,280 And you're in your foxhole. 921 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,480 You could call it your secret closet, but he's teaching you how to war. 922 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,980 He's training you. 923 00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:05,880 And that's how he's trained me. 924 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,400 You learn how to battle. 925 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,760 You learn how to fight those things within your home. 926 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120 Then he promotes you. 927 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,800 And now it's your community. 928 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,600 Now it's your neighborhood. 929 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400 It's in your church. 930 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:26,200 Then he promotes you to start praying for your city, your county, your state. 931 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:32,720 Now we're praying for our nation and nations, but it's all developed. 932 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:41,520 When we come to these things that are happening in our lives, whether we're abused or misused, 933 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,520 it's right at our door. 934 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,160 Now they're coming for our children. 935 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,360 And that's what happened with Jiel. 936 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,920 Cicera, a general, came to her tent. 937 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,880 To me, that's a home. 938 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:01,400 And she knew how to wield that tent peg with that nail. 939 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,140 And she was not afraid. 940 00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:04,940 So he said, may I have water? 941 00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:05,940 She gave him milk. 942 00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:08,560 Why don't you just get relaxed? 943 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,520 You've just been in a terrible battle. 944 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,520 He was a bully. 945 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,240 Why didn't he stay back and fight with his troops? 946 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,360 He didn't. 947 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,880 He ran off, it says. 948 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,000 And he ran off to go hide where the women were. 949 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,800 But this woman was not just a woman. 950 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,840 She was a warrior. 951 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,960 And the song and the glory was given through Deborah's song to a woman. 952 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,880 And I want to encourage us, all of us, even the men, the women, that story and judges 953 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,280 about Deborah, it's a now word. 954 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600 We need to come together. 955 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,800 And that's how he's training us, each of us, to be those chael. 956 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,880 Chael is a Hebrew word, and it's both for men and women. 957 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,960 In fact, that's what they call the IDF. 958 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,020 It's chael. 959 00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:09,960 And what it is is strong, courageous, bold, and army, wealth. 960 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,680 It is a man or woman of valor. 961 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,240 There you go. 962 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,200 Valor, being valiant, being victorious. 963 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,560 And that's what we're talking about today. 964 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:27,200 How are we victorious over the small things so that we can have the victory in the larger 965 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200 victories? 966 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200 Amen. 967 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,240 Because we now know we're confident and that the Lord has trained us. 968 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:37,760 And what better trainer says that he's a mighty man of war? 969 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,760 Amen. 970 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,320 He's a mighty man of war, and he's going to be there with us. 971 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:51,960 And that's what we need to learn as men and women to be bold as a lion, as he taught you. 972 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,640 Learn our weapons of our warfare. 973 00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:01,440 Be those that will come together in unity and be in a team and train the next generation 974 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,600 to be as bold as a lion, because that's what we need now, because the enemy is at our door. 975 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,320 But we're not going to flee. 976 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,320 That's right. 977 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,200 We're going to stand still and see. 978 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:21,840 The Lord even says, fear not, stand still and see the salvation of our Lord. 979 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,840 And he does. 980 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:28,240 He, the battle is the Lord's, but we're there in victory already. 981 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,240 Amen. 982 00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240 Amen. 983 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240 Amen. 984 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240 I just want to say two things. 985 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,040 We'll get ready to close. 986 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,700 One thing I do want to honor my father in this, because as a child growing up, he was 987 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:44,320 very fearful because his father was very abusive to him. 988 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:51,240 And what he was trying to do for me was to make me confident and fearless. 989 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,880 And so he wasn't trying to be mean to me. 990 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,080 He was trying to give me confidence. 991 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,260 And that's why he would do the things that he did. 992 00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:04,160 But what I wanted to bring out is this scripture says, for God has not given us, God did not 993 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:10,560 give us the spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind. 994 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,960 And the Lord gave me that scripture a lot, many years ago. 995 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,480 And I read that and I didn't get it. 996 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,000 And the Lord said, read it again. 997 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000 I did. 998 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000 He said, read it again. 999 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,040 We went through this several times. 1000 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,920 And finally, he said, slowly read that. 1001 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,280 For God has not given us a spirit of fear. 1002 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:38,520 Oh, I mean, fear is a spirit for God has not given us the spirit of fear, but a power, 1003 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,760 love and a sound mind. 1004 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,400 And I read that over and over until I finally got it. 1005 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,800 And he said, he kept telling me to slow down. 1006 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,800 Okay. 1007 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,720 It said spirit of fear, spirit of fear. 1008 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,640 Oh, fear is a spirit. 1009 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,920 And he said, do you have authority or fear? 1010 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,340 I went, well, yes. 1011 00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:01,240 So that was what really set me free. 1012 00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:03,360 That put a foundation in me. 1013 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,640 That fear is the spirit. 1014 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,760 And I have authority over spirits. 1015 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,020 That's exactly right. 1016 00:51:09,020 --> 00:51:13,400 That one verse right there was just monumental in my life. 1017 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,280 Second Timothy chapter one, verse seven. 1018 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,280 Okay. 1019 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,560 Would one of you like to pray for our listeners? 1020 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,560 Absolutely. 1021 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,560 Go ahead. 1022 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,280 Well, father, we just, we just want to give you the glory and the honor first and foremost 1023 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:35,120 for just having the opportunity to share testimonies and, and just being able to share with each 1024 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:41,800 and every one of you that are listening, you know, that you are bold, you are courageous, 1025 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:47,760 you are mighty because that is who he has created you to be. 1026 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,080 And we want to affirm you. 1027 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:55,840 We want to say, you know, these are, yes, the attributes that comes from our father 1028 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,740 because he is strong. 1029 00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:58,960 He is mighty. 1030 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,320 He is valiant and we come from him. 1031 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,320 Yes. 1032 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,440 So father, we just want to thank each and every person that is listening in and those 1033 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,680 that will listen later in these replays. 1034 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:17,240 And you just take authority, take authority of through the word of God, through the weapons 1035 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:22,880 of our warfare, everything that he's given us, it's the word, it's the spirit of the 1036 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:30,360 living God who's in us, absent the blood, the blood of Jesus is against every demonic 1037 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,760 entity. 1038 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,320 You take the authority and say, get behind me. 1039 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,360 Satan, that thought is not from my father. 1040 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,200 You have to take your thoughts captive immediately. 1041 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,200 Yes. 1042 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,520 And you tear them down. 1043 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,460 You bring down those strongholds. 1044 00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:46,840 This was taught to us by the Lord. 1045 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:53,280 And if he can teach us, he can certainly teach each and every one of you, you just ask him, 1046 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,280 father, how do I handle this situation? 1047 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,680 He will give it to you. 1048 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,420 He will give you the praise. 1049 00:52:59,420 --> 00:53:00,780 He will give you the worship. 1050 00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:02,360 He will give you the song. 1051 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,020 He will give you the dance. 1052 00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:06,060 These are all weapons, everyone. 1053 00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:09,760 These are the weapons of our warfare and even love. 1054 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,600 He says perfect love casts out fear. 1055 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,600 Amen. 1056 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,680 Perfect love. 1057 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:22,560 That means when you know who you are and whose you are, that perfect love, the one who loves 1058 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,040 you more than anything or anyone lives inside you. 1059 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:33,040 And once you know that and you're restored to your identity, Satan can't take that. 1060 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:39,120 He has to bow down just like how mama Shirley, when she was moving her shirt up and down, 1061 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:44,560 the demons know that there is a God and they tremble. 1062 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,560 They know that there's a God. 1063 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,720 And I just want to end with this is we could fear government, we could fear the world, 1064 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,720 we could fear even Satan, but the Lord says fear God. 1065 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:01,360 Fear the true and living God and heed his word. 1066 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,360 There's many things. 1067 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:08,540 This is in Isaiah 8 where there's conspiracies and there's all kinds of things going on. 1068 00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:10,000 We're hearing this and that. 1069 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,720 He says, listen to him. 1070 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,160 Hear the Lord God. 1071 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,320 He said, you fear him out of reverence, out of awe, because the fear of the Lord is the 1072 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,480 beginning of wisdom. 1073 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,080 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil. 1074 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,600 And it says here in Isaiah 33 six, and I love this and I'll end with this because it's so 1075 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:36,400 precious because we know that there's a shaking going on in the world. 1076 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,980 But he says, even if that is shaken, that we are on the rock. 1077 00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:45,680 We need to stand still and know that he is God. 1078 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,880 But I'm going to read Isaiah 33 six to you all. 1079 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,960 Wisdom and knowledge will be the stability. 1080 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,760 We need to be stable at this time. 1081 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:02,500 It's the stability of our times because so much everything's accelerating. 1082 00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:05,920 All kinds of things are going on, but we need not fear. 1083 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,820 We need not fear what's going on in the world. 1084 00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:10,060 We fear the Lord. 1085 00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:11,760 And look what he says here. 1086 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:21,000 The strength of salvation, he says, the fear of the Lord is his treasure. 1087 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:27,080 So seek, seek the fear of the Lord because that is the beginning of wisdom. 1088 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:32,080 And we need wisdom during these times that we're in because we're going to stand and 1089 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:37,520 we're going to stand on that evil day together because we're going to be the ones that when 1090 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:43,040 people are out there saying, what do I need to do to be saved? 1091 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:50,000 We're going to have the answer and we're going to be in that stability of our times to know 1092 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:59,000 that receive the Lord Jesus Christ, be baptized and repentance, receive the Holy Spirit and 1093 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:07,320 fire so that we can go and preach the gospel and bring more into the kingdom of God. 1094 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,320 Amen. 1095 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,320 Amen. 1096 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,320 Amen. 1097 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,320 Amen. 1098 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:20,760 If you enjoyed today's podcast, please 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