1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 One night the police stopped and they said, 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,320 what's going on here? 3 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,120 They were sure that we were selling drugs 4 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,320 or smoking pot or whatever. 5 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,320 And said, we're talking about Jesus. 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,960 They laughed and laughed and laughed all the way back 7 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,120 into their police car. 8 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:14,960 Wow. 9 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,640 They couldn't believe this whole thing. 10 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,760 And so that was the beginnings of things. 11 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,760 God promises in Joel 2.28 to pour out His Spirit 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,360 on all humanity. 13 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Welcome to Global Outpouring. 14 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Where we contend for that promise outpouring, 15 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,000 We equip for that outpouring, 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,360 So that we may engage in that very outpouring. 17 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,680 I'm Philip Buss. 18 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,520 And I'm Sharon Buss. 19 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Welcome to the podcast today. 20 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,040 We have with us a very special guest, 21 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,000 Dan Reiter from Community Christian Fellowship 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,040 in Matatuck, New York on Long Island. 23 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,120 And he has had some amazing conversations 24 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,000 and he has had some amazing experiences 25 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,720 in the things of God and experiencing the outpouring 26 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,480 right here on Long Island. 27 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,120 We're so glad that you've joined us today. 28 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,480 Thank you so much for tuning in. 29 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Before we get started, we just want to encourage you, 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,280 if you haven't already done so, 31 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,480 to go to our website, globaloutpouring.net 32 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,840 and be sure that you have subscribed to our email list. 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,760 We want to be able to communicate with you 34 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,040 and keep in touch with you, 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,600 let you know what we're doing. 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,040 We have a prayer meeting that you can join with every day 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,280 on the telephone so that you can help us contend 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,680 for the outpouring. 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,640 And we have equipping things that are going on all the time. 40 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,560 The next thing that's coming up is our School 41 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,600 of the Supernatural Translation by Faith 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,920 with Dr. Bruce Allen and his wife Reshma 43 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,600 and Michael Van Vleimen and his wife, Cordana. 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,840 We're going to be learning about the things 45 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,760 that God is preparing for his saints 46 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,680 as we move deeper into the hour that we're living in 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,680 so that we can know the scriptural basis of translation, 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,280 just like Philip did in the New Testament 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,160 in the Book of Acts where God took him to a place 50 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,360 and he ministered to the Ethiopian eunuch 51 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,440 and when his job there was done, he was gone. 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,080 And he found himself elsewhere. 53 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,200 It's perfectly scriptural and that is what we are learning 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,560 and also learning to discern what's the real thing 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,480 and what's the false thing. 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,400 So we encourage you to see the events we have coming up 57 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,960 on our website and join in if you are able. 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,720 So Dan, it's such a pleasure to be with you today 59 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,400 and have this opportunity to share some of the things 60 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,280 that God has done in your life. 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,360 Thanks for joining us. 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Sure, no thank you very much. 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,400 So tell us a little bit about your upbringing. 64 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,240 Were you raised in a Christian home? 65 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,080 I was raised, my parents were Lutheran 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,040 and so I was brought up in a Lutheran church. 67 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,160 They had to bribe me to go to Sunday school. 68 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,480 But I finally did do that 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,480 and we had a very wonderful pastor looking back. 70 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,480 But what you learned of the Lord was, it was so-so. 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,920 You were never brought to a point to make a decision. 72 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:29,160 And so I knew the things. 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,320 I've heard Bible stories, things of this nature, 74 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,920 good sermons, I looked back at maybe some of them 75 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,360 that I could remember some things. 76 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,800 And had I been awakened to the Lord and to his spirit, 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,320 I would have heard it very differently. 78 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,680 But I was young so that was a story. 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,800 And so I was brought up in a Lutheran church. 80 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,920 However, my mother was Jewish. 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,840 But she had converted to Christianity, she met the Lord. 82 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,480 And that all happened through my older sister. 83 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,480 She started at a young age going to a Baptist church. 84 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,520 She got some word in her. 85 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Oh, yes. 86 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,520 So what happened, she became born again. 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,800 And of course, my mother was very worried about her. 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Would actually follow her to church. 89 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,720 Oh, wow. Oh, my. 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,880 And became born again. 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,040 She met the Lord and asked the Lord to her life. 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Wow. 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,880 And so that was the influences on my life. 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,120 My father was a very quiet man, big man. 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,880 And worked underwater all his life. 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,440 He was a captain of fishing boats, things of that nature. 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,640 And I'd always find my father in the morning, 98 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,640 looking at scripture or something like that, a devotional. 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,480 And all I knew, that was an important thing. 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Because if dad took time for it, it was important. 101 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,920 He didn't talk about it so much. 102 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Wow. 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,080 But I could just tell as a kid, this is an important thing. 104 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,840 So how did you come to know Jesus? 105 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,160 Well, really the way that I came to know Jesus 106 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,480 was simply on television, 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,120 whenever Billy Graham seemed to come on. 108 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,200 I would listen, I understood what he was saying. 109 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,760 And I must have gone forward to the television 110 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,840 at least 16 or 17 times. 111 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:24,680 Wow. 112 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Didn't wanna miss a chance. 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Right. Yeah. 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,560 But again, the understanding 115 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,720 and the kind of follow-up teaching you would get, 116 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,840 I wasn't getting. 117 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:38,120 But as a kid, that's what I did. 118 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,080 So the Lord was real to me, 119 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,080 but not as a relationship, but I believed in his reality. 120 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,840 Yeah. 121 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,800 And I believe that he died on the cross for my sin 122 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,200 as much as I understood what that all was. 123 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Yeah. 124 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,960 So that's how I came to the Lord. 125 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,280 How old were you? 126 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:01,800 I was, well, I would tell you that I went forward 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,000 ever since I was 12 years old. 128 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,920 And finally it dawned on me, 129 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,840 probably around 17 years old, 130 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:16,560 that I needed to ask Jesus into my life 131 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,280 and that he came to save me from my own sin 132 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,160 and to bring me into a relationship 133 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,000 through himself with the Father. 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,840 Beautiful. 135 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:26,760 And I began to understand that. 136 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,760 However, it was still something wasn't grabbing my life. 137 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,480 It was a belief. 138 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,920 It was something like a tack on to my life. 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Yeah. 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,800 You know, I understood it, but it wasn't, 141 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,160 it didn't consume me. 142 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,040 You know, it wasn't really in my heart. 143 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,040 So that was a story up until around 17, 18 years old. 144 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,960 And then through a bunch of different circumstances, 145 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,720 how would I say this to you? 146 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 But I ended up in a rock and roll band. 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,840 Tell us about it. 148 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:02,400 And I loved it. 149 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,320 I'll make no bones about it. 150 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,000 I loved every bit about it. 151 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:13,280 I sang and there were three other fellows, 152 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,720 you know, guitars and drums, et cetera, 153 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,800 kind of a typical band. 154 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,600 But over time we started to, 155 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,280 we had gotten quite good and quite well known. 156 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,280 And so that really started to consume my life. 157 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,920 And as I say, I loved it. 158 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,760 We're in recording studios. 159 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,520 We're doing this, doing that, playing a lot of jobs. 160 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,120 And after a while you find yourself eating, sleeping, 161 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,480 drinking the music. 162 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,880 You know, it consumes you and you love it. 163 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,880 And so there was a time and I think I was maybe 164 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,280 20 years old then. 165 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,600 There was a fellow who said he'd like to meet with me. 166 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,040 And I said, sure. 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,200 And I met with this fellow, his name was Greg. 168 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,040 And he was kind of a little strange, 169 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,800 had long hair like all of us did back then. 170 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,080 But he looked a little strange 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,400 and he talked a little strange. 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 And he says, I hear that you pray 173 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,840 before you guys go on stage. 174 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,400 I said, yeah, we've always done that. 175 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,280 We pray together. 176 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,640 That was always my idea. 177 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,480 And the other fellas do what's fine with. 178 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,840 And so Greg says, you know, I met the Lord 179 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,880 while I was at college. 180 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,520 And he said, you know, the Lord has just filled me. 181 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,920 And he started talking to me 182 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,400 as if he had had breakfast with Jesus. 183 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,080 And kind of came to tell me about it. 184 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,880 And I was very enthralled by what he said. 185 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,880 And then he kind of laughed at the end of our conversation. 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,400 He said, you know, they call us Jesus freaks. 187 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:03,320 And you know, that appealed to me. 188 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Somehow that appealed to me. 189 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,240 I liked that. 190 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Don't ask me what grabbed me about that, 191 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,720 but it just made everything about the Lord so current. 192 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,840 So real for right now. 193 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,000 And so we played a job that night. 194 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 And I can remember this like it were yesterday. 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,680 I had come home and I think we got home about, 196 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,680 I got home maybe two or three in the morning. 197 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:34,360 That was usually when you got back. 198 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,680 And I would go down, I'd gotten to bed 199 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:38,840 and I would always lay there. 200 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,080 And every set that we played would go through my head 201 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,800 before I could go to sleep. 202 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,320 I would hear every mistake. 203 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,800 I would hear this, I would hear that. 204 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,720 So all the songs played and finally was over 205 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,320 and I'm ready to go to sleep. 206 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,720 And I just said this little prayer. 207 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,760 I said, Lord, I don't know what that guy Greg has, 208 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,120 but whatever he has, I want it. 209 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,120 And all I can tell you, all of a sudden, 210 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,680 something started like at my forehead. 211 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:10,120 It went down to my feet. 212 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,440 And I was laying in bed laughing my head off. 213 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,760 And I really, I was just laughing and laughing 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,880 and something was happening to me 215 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,200 and I kind of knew it, but it was pleasant. 216 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,800 And I slept well that night and it was, 217 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,560 and I woke up and it was like, 218 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,160 there were birds singing, 219 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,040 but I'd never heard them before till it was you, 220 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,960 until I'd met Jesus. 221 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,040 And so things change, needless to say. 222 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,160 And so it wasn't long after that, 223 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,600 the Lord started asking me, 224 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,040 and I could hear this in my heart. 225 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Do you love me or do you love the band? 226 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,880 And I said, Lord, you know, I love you. 227 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,920 And I said, you're gonna be so proud of me. 228 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,160 I said, you know, if we cut that record 229 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,440 and I meet, you know, X, Y and Z, 230 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,640 I'm gonna have the opportunity to witness to them. 231 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,120 And that didn't go very far. 232 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,840 And so, you know, things continued. 233 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,720 And a second time, same thing happened. 234 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,200 I came out with the same lame answer looking back. 235 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,440 And then somewhere as I had read in Job, 236 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,320 and this is my paraphrase, 237 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,520 but if the Lord speaks to you three times, 238 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,520 the third time, you better listen. 239 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,400 So basically the Lord spoke a third time. 240 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,920 And what I said, I said, Lord, 241 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,520 I couldn't leave even if I wanted to. 242 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,040 I'm just too steeped into this. 243 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,720 And I love it so much. 244 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,040 And I said, if you want me out though, 245 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,680 if you arrange it so I come out of it, 246 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:48,560 I'll certainly do it, I'll follow. 247 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:52,680 And all of a sudden, the group started to fall apart. 248 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:55,080 And we were on the midst of a recording contract 249 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,880 and a few other things, you know, 250 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,160 that look like the opportunities that, you know, 251 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,240 everybody would wish for. 252 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,520 And things started and I recognized what was happening. 253 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 And so I just took this step out. 254 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,600 And a friend who was in another band came, 255 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,280 he asked me, he said, what on earth did you do? 256 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,400 Why'd you leave music? 257 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,560 And I said, well, come over the house Saturday night 258 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:20,720 and I'll tell you. 259 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,440 And so I shared with him what happened to me. 260 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,160 And he asked Jesus into his life. 261 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,000 Glory to God. 262 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Praise God. 263 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,320 And he said to me, he said, 264 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,440 can I bring some friends over next Saturday? 265 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,280 I said, yeah. 266 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,560 And he brought about 10 people over the next Saturday. 267 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,720 He said, Ted, tell them what you told me, 268 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,840 you know, why you left the music. 269 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,680 And so I told a story, all 10 of them came to the Lord. 270 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,240 And this started going on the whole summer. 271 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,800 And it ended up that first fellow who came over, 272 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,680 who ended up a close friend, a fellow that I really loved, 273 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,200 his name was Ed Hanson. 274 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,040 Ed and a fellow, Greg, who had witnessed me originally. 275 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,120 By the end of the summer, 276 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,960 the three of us were on the front stoop of my folks' house 277 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,840 where there was a big, big lawn in the front. 278 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,960 And there were about 200 young people 279 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,120 that would come just to hear us speak about the Lord. 280 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Wow. 281 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,200 And it was just happening naturally. 282 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,440 Something was going on. 283 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,960 We didn't know what. 284 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Wow. 285 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,480 I think that was the beauty of it, looking back. 286 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Yeah. 287 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,160 We did not know. 288 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,640 We were just reliant on the Lord. 289 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,680 Whatever he showed us, 290 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,240 whatever we sensed he was telling us. 291 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,440 That's what we did. 292 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,320 I'm sure we made many, many errors and mistakes, 293 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,720 but gosh, the Lord was so gracious and loving 294 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,120 and merciful to say the least. 295 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,000 And so not only did so many young people, 296 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,920 but three Catholic priests were coming. 297 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Wow. 298 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,560 And they were enjoying it. 299 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:55,400 I can still remember the one fellow 300 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,720 from the Polish Catholic Church. 301 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,960 He wore one of these big, I don't know, things on his head. 302 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,080 And we said, this has gotta stop. 303 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,600 And so we took his hat off one night 304 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,400 and put an engineer's hat on him. 305 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,880 And he loved it. 306 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,400 He wore it all the time. 307 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,400 And it was just a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful time. 308 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,760 And so that's how things began, 309 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,920 at least out here on Eastern Long Island. 310 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Wow. 311 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,520 And again, we did not know what was happening, 312 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,320 but started reading in Time Magazine 313 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,440 and Newsweek Magazine at the time 314 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,120 about this thing called the Jesus Movement 315 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,520 or the Jesus Revolution all over the country. 316 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,120 But that's how it started, 317 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,400 at least out here on Eastern Long Island. 318 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,280 But then we had friends who went out to California 319 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,480 and they said, you're never gonna guess 320 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,360 what we found out here. 321 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,600 We found Jesus. 322 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Oh, glory to God. 323 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,560 And they said, we ended up at some place 324 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,040 called Calvary Chapel, this guy Chuck Smith. 325 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,160 And so we realized this was going on all over the place. 326 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Something was happening coast to coast. 327 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,880 But again, it wasn't defined, it wasn't understood 328 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,280 by any of us, but it was happening and we all knew it. 329 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,240 And the one thing we knew, Jesus was real. 330 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,960 We knew Jesus was real. 331 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,400 We didn't understand doctrine and all the things 332 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,960 that happened that end up dividing everybody. 333 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,720 But we understood Jesus. 334 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,360 And we knew he loved us. 335 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,520 I can still remember a kid, 336 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,960 he was on this wall doing back flips. 337 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,960 And I went by my car and I said, what are you doing? 338 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,800 He said, I'm flipping out for Jesus. 339 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Oh, I love it. 340 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,080 And you know, it was just, 341 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,680 this is what people were saying, talking about. 342 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,480 And the people in town were talking about 343 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,320 what's going on. 344 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,640 One night the police stopped and they said, 345 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,640 what's going on here? 346 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,400 They were sure that we were selling drugs 347 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,640 or smoking pot or whatever. 348 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,640 And he said, we're talking about Jesus. 349 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,280 They laughed and laughed and laughed all the way back 350 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,440 into their police car. 351 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,280 Wow. 352 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,960 They couldn't believe this whole thing. 353 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,240 And so that was the beginnings of things. 354 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Yeah. 355 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,520 How long did that last? 356 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,200 That lasted, well, in a crazy way, it's still going on. 357 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,040 Amen. 358 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,800 You know, it's maybe died down a little bit, 359 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,240 because it's a generation that started back then. 360 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,240 And now we're all a little bit older. 361 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,240 They're back to heck, I'm a lot older. 362 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,160 And so, but I see something happening 363 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,320 with another generation that everybody's considered lost. 364 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 And lost generations are good 365 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,840 because we're sin abounds, grace abounds much more. 366 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Amen. Yes, amen. 367 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,400 So I'm sure that something is stirring again. 368 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,800 And, but the meantime, you know, 369 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,600 the Lord was always teaching us, always moving us. 370 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,920 And, you know, just to go on from where I kind of ended there 371 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,920 just a second ago, I had gone on to graduate school 372 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,840 in Tallahassee, Florida, Florida State. 373 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,800 While I was at Florida State, somehow, 374 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,960 it's a long story, so I'm not gonna tell you the whole thing, 375 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,160 but I ended up in music again. 376 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,920 But this time singing about the Lord 377 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,080 in a group called the Burning Bush. 378 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,640 And Florida State, there were 22,000 students. 379 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,480 Wow. 380 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,560 And so we somehow, when we played around campus 381 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,800 and around the town of Tallahassee, 382 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,120 we seemed to bring together all the different groups. 383 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:45,520 They all came to hear us. 384 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,360 Wonderful. 385 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:48,240 Campus Crusade, which was a giant group, 386 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,360 the local charismatic people, 387 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,480 and then the university people, 388 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,480 the more scholarly I would call it. 389 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,560 But they all used to come. 390 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,880 And so my last year of graduate school, 391 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,280 there was a friend who used to call me bro. 392 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,160 And he said, what would you think 393 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,800 about running a Jesus people party in the student elections? 394 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,640 Oh, wow. 395 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,680 And I said, well, what would be the point of that? 396 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,240 He said we could witness to 22,000 people face to face. 397 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,280 Oh, what a great idea. 398 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,400 I said, you know, John, sounds pretty good to me. 399 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,800 And he was looking for me for kind of my okay 400 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,120 for whatever reason, I don't know. 401 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,360 He was just a good friend, a little bit younger than I was, 402 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:34,840 but a good friend, 403 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,560 another student, an undergraduate student, 404 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,120 but we both knew the Lord. 405 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,600 And so we went to all of the groups on campus 406 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,400 and presented this idea. 407 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,240 And we formed a party. 408 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Wow. 409 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,480 Called the Jesus people party. 410 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,240 That's great. 411 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,080 And our aim was, and everybody took hold of this. 412 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,920 We're going in not to win anything. 413 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,400 We don't wanna win. 414 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,960 We wanna witness. 415 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,960 And we wanna witness to every student on campus. 416 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,800 This is great. 417 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,480 And everybody agreed. 418 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,080 And we actually did it. 419 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,000 And here's the funny thing. 420 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,280 We tied, every position tied for first place. 421 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Wow. 422 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,280 Which meant there had to be a runoff election. 423 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Oh, wow. 424 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,840 So one more chance to follow up on our witnessing. 425 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,520 And then the miracle of miracles happened. 426 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,600 The election came and we lost. 427 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,400 Every one of us lost. 428 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Wow. 429 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,080 And we were so pleased. 430 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,840 We rejoiced. 431 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Because no one wanted to, you know, 432 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,920 be in the student politics. 433 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,920 But it was a wonderful opportunity. 434 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,040 But you know, that's how it was a vibrancy. 435 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:46,880 Yeah. 436 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,960 You know what I mean? 437 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,400 Two guys could have an idea. 438 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,480 You share it with a few more. 439 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,320 And the next thing, you know, you're witnessing the 22,000. 440 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,400 Glory to God. 441 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,240 I didn't like that. 442 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,960 And it was just because we were too dumb 443 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,400 to make it complicated. 444 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,640 We're just lifted up to the Lord in prayer. 445 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,480 Yeah. 446 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,080 And would go ahead, take the chance. 447 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,560 And the Lord would either open doors or shut doors. 448 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,400 Wow. 449 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,560 That's the way we worked. 450 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,400 That's fantastic. 451 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,240 And that was the beauty of the times. 452 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,680 So over the years, we've learned how to complicate 453 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,040 a little bit more. 454 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,720 So it's taking a while. 455 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,200 But I think we're coming to a point 456 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,000 where we've overly complicated ourselves. 457 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Perhaps divided ourselves too much. 458 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,520 And, but I think there is a move to towards unity. 459 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,360 I believe so. 460 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,160 You know, but our unity is in Christ. 461 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,400 It's no place else. 462 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,760 And even a small group like we are here in Matatuckabee, 463 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160 if you call, ask us a lot of questions, 464 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,760 you're going to find out we all have a lot 465 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,200 of very different opinions. 466 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,000 And a lot of different thoughts. 467 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,440 But on the other side of it, do we love each other? 468 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,120 In Christ, we really do. 469 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:56,960 Yeah. 470 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,440 You know, and we're not going to let opinions 471 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,600 or our own tastes or anything else separate us 472 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,760 from what God has really joined. 473 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,960 And not only joined marriage, but he's joined 474 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,520 brothers and sisters, the body of Christ. 475 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,360 Beautiful. 476 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,200 Yeah. 477 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,040 So. 478 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,480 Well, we've noticed that being with you 479 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,560 in your congregation, that it's very much 480 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,800 a New Testament style church. 481 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,320 Can you give us a little bit of how you came to that vision? 482 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Well, in the beginning, we just wanted to do 483 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,720 what the Lord wanted. 484 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,720 And so we looked at the Book of Acts, how did they meet? 485 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,480 And that was the beginning of it. 486 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,800 And then lo and behold, we had met a few people 487 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,840 along the way, one fellow named Lance Lambert. 488 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,360 Lance was in England at the time. 489 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,280 And of course, as we knew him, and you probably know this, 490 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,960 he lived in Jerusalem for the most of his, 491 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,240 a good part of his life. 492 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Yes. 493 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,720 And another fellow, another gentleman, Stephen Kahn. 494 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,720 Stephen translated, wrote all of Watchman's books. 495 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,440 And Stephen was just a dear brother. 496 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,640 In fact, he married my wife and I. 497 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Wow. 498 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,360 Just a lovely, lovely man. 499 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,680 Very humble Chinese gentleman. 500 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,400 Just went to be with the Lord recently, 501 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,040 he was at 106 years old. 502 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,960 Wow. 503 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,000 And he preached right up until the end. 504 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Glory to God. 505 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,840 And just a dear brother. 506 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,080 But they brought us this understanding 507 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,120 of the church. 508 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:34,120 You know, all of a sudden, 509 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:37,680 the church was more than a Sunday meeting. 510 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,680 It was the corporate man that God always wanted. 511 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,560 Yes. 512 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,400 For his son. 513 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,320 Yes. 514 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 And it just, at least for me, 515 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,520 it started to change my walk in the Lord 516 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,120 and everything else. 517 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,840 And so we started to see the church 518 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520 as something precious to the Lord. 519 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240 And we saw it a place of unity, 520 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,080 we saw principles, not so much, 521 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,360 what would I say? 522 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,960 It was an organism and not an organization. 523 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Amen. 524 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,640 That's good. 525 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,640 Something living. 526 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Exactly, that was one of the first principles 527 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,840 that we began to understand, 528 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,840 that it's organic within itself. 529 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,880 And it'll grow if it's nourished correctly. 530 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,720 Yes. 531 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,560 And so we realized in the Book of Acts 532 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,800 that they really didn't have a pastor. 533 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,480 It was plurality of leadership. 534 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,440 And it started to make a lot of sense to us 535 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,840 because one man, you're gonna just get 536 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,440 what one man really sees. 537 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,840 And a lot of times, one of the greatest things happened 538 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,640 as we tried to bring this into being, 539 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,960 we would go before the Lord with everything. 540 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,040 We'd say, Lord, how do you want us to do this? 541 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,880 Yeah. 542 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240 So we have five or six men praying. 543 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Five or six men hear the Lord differently. 544 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,080 So now what do we do? 545 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,160 Divide into six denominations or what? 546 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Or do we keep going before the Lord 547 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,720 till we have a unanimity? 548 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,440 And then we found out that that's important. 549 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280 It saves us from going down a lot of wrong roads. 550 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,120 Yeah. 551 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,920 And so that was a tremendous help. 552 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,320 When we met, we were taught somehow, 553 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,040 and Lance and Stephen had a lot to do with this. 554 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,680 I think looking back, 555 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,920 but just put the Lord's table in the midst. 556 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,760 Yeah. 557 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Let the Holy Spirit lead you. 558 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Yes. 559 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,400 You don't need someone to lead you through something. 560 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,040 Let the Lord lead you. 561 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,200 It's easier said than done because every once in a while, 562 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,440 you get somebody come into the fellowship 563 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,360 and they see a perceived void 564 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:52,440 and they wanna take over right away. 565 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Or when God brings a light someplace, 566 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,880 it dispels the darkness, but it also attracts bugs. 567 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,040 And once in a while, you get a bug. 568 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,880 And you got to, but over the years, 569 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,600 we've learned how to deal with this more and more. 570 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,840 So we're not worried about being off the wall 571 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,880 or anything else. 572 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,240 And so it gives chance for testimony. 573 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,760 But the beautiful thing that it does, 574 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,840 when you have a plurality of leadership, 575 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240 and obviously you can tell we're not big on titles. 576 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,760 We're big on function, but we're not big on titles. 577 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Because titles seem to separate. 578 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400 You end up with a clergy and a laity. 579 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Right. 580 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,520 You know, a division right within. 581 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,840 And so we try to stay away from those kinds of things 582 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,360 and stay away from the titles. 583 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:49,040 And it's a better way to go. 584 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,880 Yes. 585 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,800 You know, and we might not all agree on that, I think. 586 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Sometimes, you know, especially in recent years. 587 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,320 But at the same time, 588 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,760 it works towards the building up of the body. 589 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,600 Yeah. 590 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,400 You know, and when everybody's expected 591 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,640 to give something of themselves. 592 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,480 Right. 593 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,840 You know, it's- Every joint supplies something. 594 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,680 Amen. 595 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,840 That's what the church is. 596 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,680 Yeah. 597 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,280 And that's, again, what we were taught. 598 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,720 The church is the place where every joint supplies. 599 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,560 Beautiful. 600 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,040 Every joint's not supplying. 601 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,440 Do you really have the church? 602 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Mm-hmm. 603 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,120 I don't know. 604 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:23,960 It's true. 605 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,800 So- 606 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000 Well, it's kind of like if you have a big picture puzzle 607 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,720 and there's some pieces missing. 608 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,560 Mm-hmm. 609 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,800 You don't have the big picture. 610 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,640 Exactly. 611 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,440 Everybody has to play their part. 612 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,560 And that comes from every individual 613 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,000 becoming responsible to have relationship with God. 614 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Amen. 615 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,120 You know, if we don't have our very own relationship 616 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,480 and learning things from the Lord himself, 617 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,720 we're missing what the New Covenant is all about. 618 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,920 It's about knowing him. 619 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,760 That's right. 620 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,000 It's about, yes, it's about erasing all of our sins. 621 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,600 And yes, it's about him being our God 622 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,880 and we being his people. 623 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,520 But it's about getting his word inscribed in our hearts 624 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,200 and in our minds and knowing him. 625 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,120 And that's something that comes from relationship with him 626 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,840 and spending time with him and talking to him and listening. 627 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,680 Exactly. 628 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600 And when everybody's listening, 629 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,000 they hear something to share with the body 630 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,680 and then we get the big picture. 631 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,840 And I think the Lord's longing, and it always has been. 632 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,800 I mean, you start to see scripture. 633 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,720 It begins with a wedding. 634 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,920 It ends with a wedding. 635 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,120 You flop open your Bible right to the middle. 636 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:37,960 What do you have? 637 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Song of Solomon. 638 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,640 You have a wedding. 639 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Beautiful. 640 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,280 You know, what does the Lord, 641 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,280 what does the Father want for the Son? 642 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,120 A bride. 643 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,240 Yeah, exactly. 644 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,760 And so when everyone's in a relationship with the Lord 645 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 and relationship with one another, 646 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,680 I can't help but believe 647 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,720 that the Lord is getting what he wants. 648 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Somehow that's translated up into 649 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,360 what we call the New Jerusalem. 650 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:03,760 That's the gold. 651 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,920 That's the pearl. 652 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,320 That's the precious stone. 653 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Beautiful. 654 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,480 You know, there's something beautiful about that. 655 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,720 So that's what I can tell you about 656 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,760 what was called the Jesus Revolution. 657 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Okay. 658 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520 That's how it's worked in our lives out here. 659 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,360 Beautiful. 660 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,640 And God willing, as long as we live, 661 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,720 we wanna keep pursuing the Lord. 662 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,840 And then after that, 663 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080 I'm sure we'll still pursue in a sense. 664 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,920 Amen. 665 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Amen. 666 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,320 You know, I'm reminded of the move of God 667 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,800 that happened in the Hebrides Islands off of Scotland 668 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360 in the late 1940s, early 50s, 669 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,360 where there were two older lady intercessors, 670 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,520 I think they were in their 80s. 671 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,360 You're right. 672 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,200 And they got to praying. 673 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,840 And then there was also this group of men 674 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,080 that got to praying. 675 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,440 And they were praying in a barn, 676 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680 and the ladies were praying in their little house, 677 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,800 their little cottage. 678 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400 And at one point, 679 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,960 and they were praying about the young people 680 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,520 because they had had a revival in their generation. 681 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,480 And there had been revivals throughout the generations 682 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,120 on those islands. 683 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,800 And people would recognize, 684 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080 okay, the young people are drifting, 685 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,880 we need a revival. 686 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880 And they'd pray through and God would give a revival. 687 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,520 And this particular time was one of those. 688 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,120 And God sent a revival, 689 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,120 and all the young people got thoroughly revived, 690 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400 thoroughly transformed. 691 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240 Just a footnote to that, 692 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720 Lance knew the two ladies. 693 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,540 Really? 694 00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:43,380 Oh wow. 695 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:44,220 Lance knew everybody. 696 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:45,060 Oh wow. 697 00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:46,440 Lance knew King Hezekiah. 698 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600 I mean, Lance knew everybody. 699 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,520 But, and he was sharing with us how in England, 700 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,440 in the Halford House, 701 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,800 that was the name of the fellowship that he was part of. 702 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,560 But they began by praying for a couple of years, 703 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,360 and that's all they did, they prayed. 704 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,400 They turned every meeting into a prayer meeting. 705 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,240 Wow. 706 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,880 For a move of God, 707 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,440 because they were very encouraged 708 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,760 by the Hebrides revival, you know, in his generation. 709 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,600 Yeah. 710 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,200 And so, and he talked about this one night, 711 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,200 he said, it was a thick fog, a dreary night, 712 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,280 only a few people showed up, 713 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,840 and he said, the heavens opened. 714 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Oh. 715 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,840 And we knew God heard our prayers from all the years. 716 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,680 Wow. 717 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,680 And they said, the next thing he knew, 718 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,280 they were hearing about people speaking in tongues, 719 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,240 things he didn't even know about at the time, 720 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,600 all over the world. 721 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,440 Wow. 722 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,480 And that's when the Jesus revolutions broke out 723 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,440 in the United States. 724 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Wow. 725 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440 So, those two ladies, 726 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440 this little group from Halford House, 727 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,400 that stayed faithful, and other groups. 728 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,520 Yes. 729 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,040 Certainly you've read Reese Howell, 730 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,880 probably a long way. 731 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Oh yes, absolutely. 732 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Yeah. 733 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,720 It's another person that he knew. 734 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,540 Really? 735 00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:04,520 Yeah, I tell you, he knew everybody. 736 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,720 But anyway, it was just tremendous. 737 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,600 But it's been so helpful to us, 738 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,920 for God to have put those people in our lives, 739 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,120 to help us to grow, and to see, and to have vision. 740 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,960 Yes. 741 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,040 You know, they opened up the way, 742 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,480 and the Lord opened up our hearts, 743 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,280 and I'm so thankful, I really am. 744 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Wow. 745 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,720 You know, I'm reminded of that wonderful movie 746 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,040 that came out a few years ago, called War Room, 747 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,120 where there was this intercessor, 748 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,280 powerful, powerful little intercessor, 749 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,120 and she began to pray, 750 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,560 Lord, send me someone to mentor. 751 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200 I want to teach somebody what I know 752 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,120 before you take me home. 753 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,400 Or maybe, I don't remember exactly the plot, 754 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560 whether it was the Lord that spoke to her, 755 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,920 and said, you need to pass this on to somebody 756 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,840 before I take you home. 757 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120 I don't remember just which direction it went. 758 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,400 But the point was that she prayed for someone 759 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520 to come into her life, that she could teach 760 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,920 the secrets of intercession, to pray, 761 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,800 and to change situations, change family situations, 762 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,600 change all the things that we pray for, 763 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,960 all the things that we intercede for, 764 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,960 all the things we contend for. 765 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,480 And we're contending, and God has already been moving. 766 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,240 He started this revival in Asbury 767 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,280 back in February of this year. 768 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,960 This is 2023. 769 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,800 And there've been other moves already 770 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,680 that have sort of started like popcorn. 771 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600 You know, when you make popcorn, 772 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,840 first there's one. 773 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,840 And then there's another, and then there's another, 774 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,680 and then there's another, 775 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760 and pretty soon it's pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, 776 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920 pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, and the whole thing fills up. 777 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,000 And I feel like we're on the verge of that. 778 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,680 We've had the first few kernels have popped. 779 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,680 And it's time for this to increase in speed 780 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,320 and influence throughout America, throughout the world. 781 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,320 It's about the Joel 2.28 move of God 782 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 that is the outpouring that he has promised 783 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,080 that's gonna be like Niagara Falls. 784 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,600 And lives are gonna be transformed. 785 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920 People are gonna be changed. 786 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,600 What do you see for that? 787 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Do you see anything in your walk with the Lord? 788 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120 Is he speaking to you along those lines? 789 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,440 I wanna say what I'm seeing is more important 790 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720 than ever before is holding on to the Lord. 791 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,560 Yes. 792 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,440 And just trusting him for everything that's going to come. 793 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,760 You know, I realize if this generation, 794 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,480 if there is an outpouring in it, 795 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,080 things are so different now than they've ever been before. 796 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,920 True. 797 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,680 And if I don't hold on for the Lord, 798 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,240 I'm gonna already judge it as it can't happen. 799 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,680 So I gotta hold on to the Lord and trust him. 800 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,520 Yes. 801 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,520 And for my acceptance of however the Lord goes. 802 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,280 But yes, do I see, I mean, I see trouble for the world 803 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,400 and I see trouble for the nations on the other side of it. 804 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,520 I can't see how God and his mercy 805 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,920 will not have one more great outpouring. 806 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,560 And not only in the United States. 807 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,400 Oh yeah. 808 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,440 But all over the world. 809 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,640 He said on all flesh. 810 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,840 There has to be. 811 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Yeah. 812 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,920 There has to be. 813 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,760 Yeah. 814 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,920 You know, before this world is totally judged. 815 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,760 It's true. 816 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,600 It has to be. 817 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,400 It's an amazing harvest. 818 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,240 It will be. 819 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,080 It will be. 820 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,560 Our hearts need to stay soft. 821 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,400 Exactly. 822 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,720 And that's what I'm trying to say. 823 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,960 Yes, yes. 824 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,320 Would you pray for our listeners before we close? 825 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,160 I would love to. 826 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,920 That would be a great privilege. 827 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,240 Lord Jesus, everyone here agrees that you are wonderful. 828 00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:44,080 Yes. 829 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,760 And Lord, we want, we want more than anything else 830 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,280 for that which is wonderful about you, 831 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520 which is absolutely everything. 832 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Lord, to be made known to mankind, 833 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,160 to every man and woman that we know, 834 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,720 every child, young, old people, it doesn't matter. 835 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,680 Lord, show your great loving kindness. 836 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,760 We ask for a pouring out. 837 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,600 Yes. 838 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,480 All over the nations. 839 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,800 And Lord, begin with our own hearts. 840 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,840 Yes, Lord. 841 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Keep them soft and pliable before you. 842 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,520 Lord, help us. 843 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Help us to see Jesus in everything that we do. 844 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,520 Thank you, Father. 845 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,680 Precious Holy Spirit. 846 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,760 Thank you, Jesus. 847 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Get the bride that you want for the son. 848 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Yes. 849 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,480 Get it from our lives. 850 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,320 Yes. 851 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,160 This is our prayer together tonight. 852 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,280 In Jesus' name. 853 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,120 Amen. 854 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,960 Amen. 855 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,800 Amen. 856 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,640 Amen. 857 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,480 Amen. 858 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,320 Amen. 859 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Amen. 860 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,000 Amen. 861 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,280 If you enjoyed today's podcast, 862 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960 please subscribe, rate, and review this podcast 863 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,440 on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. 864 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,760 Your review helps the podcasting platform 865 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,960 suggest this podcast to other listeners 866 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,560 who are also looking for a great move of the Holy Spirit. 867 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,320 Check out our website at globaloutpouring.org 868 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,080 to find out more information, 869 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,760 read our blogs, connect with us, and donate. 870 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560 You can also browse our web store 871 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,040 for life-changing anointed books. 872 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,760 Until next time, this is Sharon Buss. 873 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,160 And I'm Philip Buss. 874 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,520 God bless you with this overwhelming, loving presence. 875 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:34,200 baskathr fist.com