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Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith

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to Live By with prophet Barry Wunsch as my guest

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for part three of my interview with him. Welcome

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to those of you finding this podcast for the

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first time and an especially warm welcome to

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my regular listeners. I'm Pam Christian, the

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host of this weekly podcast where we explore

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current events from a biblical and prophetic

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perspective so we, as God's children, can know

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how He wants us to respond to see His kingdom

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will done on earth. as it is in heaven. I want

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to say I am grateful to have so many listeners

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in the United States and Canada, but I get to

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also be grateful for a growing number of listeners

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in Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Brazil,

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and the United Kingdom. These nations are among

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those leading the way for their people and those

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in other nations to wake up to the truth of the

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existence of self -appointed evil deep state

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elite who are relentlessly pushing their tyrannical

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oppressive agenda ahead. We need all listeners

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of this podcast to like and share this program

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with your friends and family. We certainly need

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many more people knowing truth and willing to

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do what they can to overcome evil with good,

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and the sooner the better. Fighting against evil

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is weary -making, so we need more people engaged

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in the process to help the few from burning out.

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Sharing this podcast is one very easy way for

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you to help get more truth known. Today's guest,

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Barry Wunsch, is certainly all about truth. He

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is a most well -respected modern -day prophet

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who has been sharing various visions and prophetic

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downloads he's received from God specific to

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the days we're living in. If you didn't hear

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parts 1 and 2 of this interview, I strongly encourage

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you to do so as world events are truly heating

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up and we have every expectation they will become

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very intense in the near future. Last week in

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America we had some very important elections

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that are proving to provide tremendous revelations

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and exposures of just who is on the side of the

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deep state, Cabal, wanting to see the United

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States defeated, and who are on the side of the

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sovereignty of nations. Knowing many people may

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be fearful because of the stated election outcome,

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I want to remind us of what God has been prophetically

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sharing for months and years. In a nutshell,

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God has victory in store for His people, and

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He wants us to remember things are not as they

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appear. They are not as the Deep State is publicizing

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and promoting. Listen to the word God gave to

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Julie Green on November 4th in preparation of

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her releasing it on November 5th. the morning

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after the elections, knowing we would need reassurance

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because of how the puppet masters use and control

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mainstream media. What the Deep State continues

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to do is no surprise to God. He is prepared in

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advance to intervene on behalf of His people.

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And remember, God primarily intervenes according

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to the measure His people invite Him. Your enemies

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stole a city to steal a nation. My children,

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war is not coming. War is here in your nation.

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A war against Christianity. A war against your

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freedoms. A war to take your children. A war

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to take down financially. To enslave you the

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rest of the way into your enemy's global society.

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A war has been fought under the radar when this

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nation has been unaware. Military moves are constantly

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being made to save this nation from global takedown.

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A war has been fought against a deep state trying

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to steal the 2026 midterm elections and how they

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are trying to figure out how to steal 2028 election

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so a person can never win again if they are not

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apart. of the establishment. A war has been going

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on to stop election fraud because your enemies

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know they can't win an election without stealing

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it. They are making moves right now. They are

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being caught red -handed. Your enemies have no

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idea that I have set those traps and they are

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caught in them. Emails are coming to prove what

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they are doing in New York City with the mayoral

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race, with their man, Mamdani, is a socialist

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plant, a Muslim who wants to legalize Sharia

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law and completely destroy Christianity. He will

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be removed. He will not stay mayor. I allow this

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to happen to show you how far the establishment

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is willing to go to steal a city, to steal a

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nation. Every dirty rat in New York City behind

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this mayoral race will fall flat on their face.

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For I, the Lord, will expose not only election

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fraud in New York City, but more secrets in the

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city will be released regarding 9 -11. your enemy's

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deepest, darkest secrets, why the trend towers

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were the target, why that specific day, what

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all they were hiding and would have been taken

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that day and who was all involved. My children,

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all of this has been a part of war against this

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nation. Do you not see by the 2020 election,

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Your enemies are willing to do anything to destroy

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this nation. Do you really think that because

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President Trump won the 2024 election that your

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enemies were just going to give up and stop?

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No, they are more desperate now than they were

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in 2024. But now in 2025, your enemies are in

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a nosedive they can't get out of. They are falling

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with no end in sight. After what takes place

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in New York City, more things will begin to take

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shape and more masks will be revealed. My children,

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I told you it would look worse before it got

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better. Do you see the nation needs you, my children?

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They don't need politicians. They need my church

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using my glory to fill its nation. and free it

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from the demonic chokehold it has been under.

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No more, no longer take what your enemies are

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doing and fight now back more with my words than

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ever before. Don't let your enemies keep you

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in bondage. Don't let them keep stealing from

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you. Don't let them take your kids. Don't let

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them continue on their path of destruction for

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you or your nation. You have something to say

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about it. And you can push back and win. I have

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given you all you need. I have defeated these

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enemies. Now take back what belongs to you and

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do not back off. Don't give up when it looks

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like the war is getting worse and not better.

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Do not believe that your enemies can win because

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they can't. I am Jehovah -Nissi. I am your victory.

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And I never fail. My children, this nation needs

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you now. So shout my words. Again, shout my words.

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Use the sword of the spirit and watch what happens

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to your enemies when you do. Defeat is coming

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to your enemies in unprecedented ways. So believe

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I will not forsake you. I will not abandon you.

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I will never and have and never will I Never

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have and I never will the time for my nation

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is now it's time to arise It's time to shine

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and destroy the darkness with my light that is

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on the inside of you Says the Lord of hosts Another

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powerful word from the Lord sternly instructing

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us to fight in partnership with Him to see His

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promised victory. I shared last week how many

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of God's promises are conditional, meaning there

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are specific responses required from us if we

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are going to experience the fullness of God's

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promise. Clearly the victory to overcome the

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evil in our nations requires God's people to

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fight against evil. Now, with this firmly in

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mind, let me play Part 3 of my interview with

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Barry Wunsch, continuing from last week's program,

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where we are now moving into the very sobering

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reality of God's people, the Church, or better

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stated, the Ecclesia, being first in God's administration

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of judgment, according to 1 Peter 4 .17. I appreciate

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that you say that, and you are among those that

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I follow who really just have a genuine, humble

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spirit, and it's so refreshing. One of the things

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when you were talking earlier about the Lord

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removing people from positions, I wondered if

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there was any pastors that you have seen in these

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visions from the Lord. Because we have 1 Peter

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4 .14, I believe it is, where judgment begins

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with the house of the Lord, I would imagine that

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there's been times that the Lord has shown you

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what he's doing with his ecclesia? Well, you

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know, in September we were out in a place called

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Kelowna, BC. Beautiful city. You know, it's kind

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of mountainous and a lot like California, I think,

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actually, to be honest. A lot of vineyards and,

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you know, fruit orchards and like it's a beautiful

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spot, beautiful lake. And so one night I woke

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up, actually September 25th, wide awake, I couldn't

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really sleep and I just, the Lord was stirring

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me. So I went and the place we were staying,

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they had this big deck on their house looking

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out over the lights of the city. So I went out

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there and I'm looking at this and I mean, I just

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felt something was really off. It was kind of

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like the calm before the storm. Actually, I felt

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really sad because I could see what was coming

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and I knew by the Spirit of God that there was

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major demolition ahead. And I knew there was

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a tearing down and a big renovation and a rebuild

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for his church. I'm sitting out there, and the

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father spoke to me clearly, and he says, I'm

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turning the church upside down. And just like

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that, I was taken into the Spirit, and I saw

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several ministries and leaders that I recognized,

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and I knew it was more than just them. I knew

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that it was more than the Okanagan Valley. I

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knew that it was, you know, I knew this was a

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bigger word than for there. But these guys were

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being basically held by their feet upside down

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and shaken and one by one and and so you know

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what was happening is they were being shaken

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everything in their pockets was being shaken

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out there was money there were keys to vaults

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there was money to safety deposit boxes i saw

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computer thumb drives that helped all sorts of

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bad things i saw hotel room keys I saw boarding

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passes, I saw crumpled up notes and receipts,

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but this was like, it was all coming out. Every

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hidden thing was coming out. And it was just

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like, you know, have you ever been on one of

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those circus rides at the exhibition where, you

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know, they get you upside down and they, you

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know, spin and all your stuff falls out of your

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pocket? I mean, I've always been afraid of those.

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I've never ridden one, but it was kind of like

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that. And I knew it like it would be painful.

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but it would bring freedom. And so I knew that

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by the Spirit that there would be some that would

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repent and some would not, and they would never

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minister again. And there were some that were

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just raging. I mean, they were escalating with

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such anger and self -defense. They were just

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lashing out against anyone or anything that moved.

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I mean, they were blinded by their own pride

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and rage, and they just began accusing anyone

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in their path of attacking them. And so they

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went on a counterattack, which in reality was,

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you know, part of their delusional paranoia,

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frankly. But they proclaimed these accusations

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as lies and an attack from the enemy, when in

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fact it was the Lord who was lovingly bringing

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discipline to those He loves. and the consequences

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were the consequences of their actions. And so,

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they resisted the Father, and they were unable

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to really see clearly, let alone come into repentance.

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And so, you know, I saw these leaders and networks,

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interconnected ones, intertwined, you know, shaken

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one after another, just like a domino effect.

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you know kind of again and so what and some of

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these organizations they'd started out as good

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you know legitimate you know innocent looking

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networks but they would now be exposed it would

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all come you know at a great cost kind of to

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them all but but in the end it would prove actually

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to be the best thing that ever happened to them

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so so so that was a lot i go back to bed trying

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to get back to sleep after I made my notes. And

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as I was falling to sleep, the Lord woke me again,

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just boom. And He said, you know, bury an offering

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is one thing, but fleecing is quite another.

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And I do not take lightly to how shepherds and

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leaders mistreat my people. These ones have used

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and abused my precious ones to satisfy their

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own selfish carnal desires. You who have fleeced

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my sheep, you who have manipulated and stolen

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from my people, hear me clearly on this day.

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It's time to examine your hearts. It's time to

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lay things down and clean things up. Leave your

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gift at the altar. and go to those you need to

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go to and make amends and make things right.

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For you have made things more about your business

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than mine, and I say unto you on this day, it

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is in your best interest to sort it out, for

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if you don't, I surely will. And yes, there is

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grace, and this is my grace unto you today. And

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the voices of revival will be the voices of despair.

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Kickbacks and greasy deals are coming to the

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surface. You can try to hide behind your friends,

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but for only so long, for truth will always prevail

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over the lies. But either way, it's all coming

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out. There have been land deals done in my name

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that I had nothing to do with. My name was used

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to move money when it was your scheming and planning,

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and the truth is it's a crime. And there will

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be consequences that will be paid. What evidence

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was burned in a dumpster fire will not go away

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that easily, and you can't blame the enemy for

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the consequences. That blame lies upon your actions.

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Remember, I'm a good, good father. and a good

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father disciplines those that he loves. And this

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is my heart for you, for I do love you, and I

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desire that you could come to me in honesty with

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your mess, with a repentant heart, mind and spirit,

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and I assure you I will take you through the

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breaking in order that you will know my statutes

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and be made whole again. So, Barry, tell my people

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it's time to shut down the circus and the exhibition

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and get back being the people I've called you

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to be. For I've called you to disciple the nations.

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I've called you to share the good news. I have

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called you. The kingdom of God is near. Heal

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the sick. Raise the dead. cleanse those with

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leprosy, drive out demons, for freely you've

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received, freely give. So return to my ways,

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my ancient paths, and I will tell you, things

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will turn around for good. And holy is the word

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of the Lord. Wow, very. With everything that

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the Lord has been so gracious to reveal through

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his servants of prophets over the past several

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years, and as it's really coming to a heightened

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sense in these last few months, it really seems

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to me that the Lord is giving more words, more

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frequent, more content with a greater intensity.

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It seems to me that the Lord is cleaning up the

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church and cleaning up the governments and the

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nations at the same time. We have a chance to

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wake up one morning in the not too distant future

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and have a whole new world. Yeah, it's true.

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I told a friend today on a call, I said, you

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know what, we're seeing the deep state, you know,

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in government, we're seeing the Lord dealing

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with all that. But we're also seeing, in many

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ways, the church is actually operating like the

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cabal. And, you know, he's bringing his light

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to this. And, you know, one thing I want to talk

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about is, is the God of mercy and grace. And

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he certainly has, I mean, look, he took Paul,

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you know, I mean, he took Paul, turned him around.

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I mean, here was, you know, chief of sinners,

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of which I'm one. He took David, you know, an

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adulterer and a murderer and, you know, all of

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this and brought restoration and healing, which

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is true. But here's the thing we kind of jump

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over. We can't have mercy without truth and justice.

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And so what happens in my life, or it has happened,

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is truth has come and it's cut like a knife and

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it's hurt. but it's cut out that affection, infection.

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It's cut me in a painful way so that I deal with

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it, which actually becomes justice, which comes

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the repentance, which comes that part of it.

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And then when that happens, then mercy comes,

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right? And so it's actually all God's mercy.

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And if we want to take it even a little further,

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we can say that that's actually even when restitution

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comes. is as a broken people, we can actually

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go further and we can actually make things right

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with those that we may be harmed or even a little

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better. And so those are kind of heavy words.

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So may we be a people that examine our hearts

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and steward our lives that we can be the best

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that we can be. You know, you're reminding me

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of the scripture where it says if your brother

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has something against you to leave your gift

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at the altar and go make amends with your brother.

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Now, this is speaking to believers, to God's

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children. So God is asking us to do what we can

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to make restitution, to make relationships restored

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in as much as possible. And then the whole idea

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of restitution is to try to make it even better

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than it was before. Yes. Yeah, that's right.

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And sometimes that takes some time. You know,

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because we also have seen people go into a false

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peace treaty where they'll go and, you know,

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try and make that phone call or meet and, you

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know, if I offended you, yeah, no, I'm okay.

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But really, maybe there is a hurt there or something

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that they're not talking about. And so we can

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actually sometimes end up in a false peace treaty

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if people aren't being honest. And that's not

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good either. Right. And so, but, you know, by

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the spirit, like if you're if You go into those

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situations. You know what's genuine and what's

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right and what's not. And maybe some of those

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relationships will never be the same. Sometimes

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you'll come out and you'll deal with it, you'll

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settle it, but that doesn't mean that maybe you're

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going to be doing everything together like you

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used to. And that's okay. And that's okay. Right.

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Forgiveness is one thing, but wisdom also needs

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to come into play. You're reminding me of how

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important it is that we as disciples of Christ,

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as his representatives here on earth, that we

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do our best to keep ourselves clean before the

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Lord, pure heart and clean hands, and that when

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we do when we realize we have offended especially

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a brother or a sister in Christ that we do everything

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in our power to make amends. I had a situation

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recently where I was on the phone with a dear

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friend of mine who's a wonderful Christian woman

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and I guess I was abrupt with her pretty pretty

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abrupt with her which I can be I yes I can and

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I hung up the phone I thought I wonder how that

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went well she was good enough that she called

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me back within Just a matter of minutes and lovingly

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let me know She just wanted to talk to me and

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she let me know exactly how I had offended her

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by being a breath the way I was Yeah, and we

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were able to have a wonderful conversation and

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the very next time I saw her which was just within

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a couple of days I was able to hug her Thank

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you for caring so much about our friendship to

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bring that to my attention because that was not

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easy for her No, but it was far better for us

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and pleasing to the Lord that we handled it,

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that it was worked out the way it was. So beautiful.

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And you can actually sometimes come out of these

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things closer and stronger, you know, being honest.

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Well done. Well done. I got to give you a testimony.

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We were off in Kelowna doing some meetings and

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I'd had a dream, you know, where there'd been

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a bunch of pain and hurt that had gone on. and

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the Lord came in the room with a towel wrapped

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around his waist and a basin to wash the feet

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of his people and the victims and leaders and

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different ones, you know, the ones that have

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been hurt by leaders. So anyway, I was sharing

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this with the leadership group there and they

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said, Barry, we need to do a foot washing tonight.

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And within 20 minutes, they went out and they're

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buying towels and they're buying buckets and

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getting ready. So Pam, we did a foot washing,

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about 250 people in the room. My wife and I,

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this other pastor and his wife, another set of

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pastors and their wives, the altar was full of

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leaders, and people stood in line for an hour

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and a half to have their feet washed. And as

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we washed their feet, we did an identification

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repentance. What do you mean by that? would you

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forgive us as leaders, as men and women who have

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hurt you, who have abused you, who have mistreated

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you, who have not heard your voice, who have

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not, and we had people bawling in our arms. And

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forgiveness, we forgive you, like it was actually,

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I've never been through anything like it. And

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then within 12 hours, We had, you know, one of

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the people had walked in and said, you're not

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going to believe this. And a miracle happened,

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kind of broken family and stuff. And within 12

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hours, there was reconciliation. And within another

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24 hours, there was more family reconciliation

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within the family. But what it did is it broke

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that thing in the spirit that had held them.

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And I'm telling you, it is... powerful. And so,

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you know, we come into that position to like,

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I just, it's a night I will never forget. And

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it was such an honor to be able to serve and

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do that. I just, yeah. I'm getting a little teary

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eyed with the whole story. It's so beautiful.

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And it reminds me of what you said just a couple

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of minutes ago. So many people wonder what can

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they do? Well, being genuine and honest and I

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think you called it identification or representation.

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Identification or repentance. Yeah. So as leaders,

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we just went, we repented on those that, and

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I mean, I'm, I'm tell you, I mean, I can't tell

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Sarah in the air here, but we had people share

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things with us that they'd carried for years

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and in some recent and the abuses and the things

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that had happened to them from pastors and leaders

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and oh man i'm telling you but the love of god

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came and touched and brought healing and deliverance

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it was just fantastic and the beauty that comes

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from something like that because in the years

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the precious people were carrying the the pain

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and the suffering the heartache the story is

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very true hurting people hurt people yep When

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we have people within the body of Christ who

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are carrying such heartache Inevitably they are

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also hurting other people. Yeah, so the healing

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has such a ripple effect. It's it's really Glorious,

00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:48.319
it's it's really beautiful. Yeah. Yeah it is

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You know, it's an ongoing thing, by the way.

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It's not like a one and done. You know, it's

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a continual thing. You know, we call it do your

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annual, it's like a spiritual car wash. You pull

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out the mats and pull the spare tire out and

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kind of dig in there. And then we, I think it's

00:27:06.890 --> 00:27:09.269
a good practice for all of us, whether you're

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a leader, whether you've been pastoring for,

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you know, two years, five years or 50 years.

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You know, I think that, you know, we all have

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stuff that you know, kind of sometimes piles

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up. I sure do. But it doesn't have to. Yeah,

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and the Lord doesn't want it to either. He's

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given us every opportunity and instructions on

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how we can go about being healed and delivered

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and united in His love. Barry, I so enjoyed our

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time together. I always do. Thank you, Pam. Yeah,

00:27:38.210 --> 00:27:41.150
me too. Thank you. I would like to know how you

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would like to close us out. What closing comments

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are on your heart? Well, you know, I'm just going

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to talk about something here just briefly. We

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were in some meetings recently, and, you know,

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this hit me pretty hard, like I needed to hear

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it. And it actually is about Shalom. And Shalom

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is peace, right? I mean, Hebrew peace is kind

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of how I always was taught. And, you know, we've

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got a lot of things going on today, you know,

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and there's lots of crazy circumstances going

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on. We've got some uncertainties, but I'll say,

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We're thankful for God's faithfulness, His grace,

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and all that He is to us. We're thankful for

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the shalom of God that is much more than peace

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in Hebrew. And so I was taught that shalom literally

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means, may the God of heaven come and destroy

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all power, all authority that is threatening

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to bind you to chaos. Furthermore, the definition

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of chaos means complete disorder and confusion.

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And so my prayer today for us all is that God

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would shelter us behind his impenetrable walls

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of his love, his presence, his protection, and

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may we live in lockdown in the place of shalom.

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And we are thankful for his word that never returns

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void. And we're very thankful that God is bringing

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the nations. He's bringing truth and justice

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to the nations and righteousness. We're thankful

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that He's bringing down evil thrones and kings.

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We're thankful that He's raising up righteous

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kings into thrones. And we're thankful that we've

00:29:35.460 --> 00:29:38.299
turned a corner in this battle. And that it's

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going to accelerate. So my prayer today for everyone

00:29:42.539 --> 00:29:46.980
listening is shalom, shalom over you. Shalom

00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:50.559
over your families. Shalom over your mental,

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emotional, and spiritual health. Shalom over

00:29:55.220 --> 00:30:00.319
every relationship. Shalom over your finances

00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:05.720
and resources. Shalom over every father, every

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mother. every grandparent and great -grandparent,

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shalom over every son, over every daughter, grandchild

00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:23.509
and great -grandchild. I speak shalom, shalom,

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over each and every one of you, in Jesus' name.

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Barry, thank you so much, and we wish every bit

00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.799
of that to also be given unto you. Thank you

00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:49.519
so very much. Thank you. A very sobering message.

00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:53.779
As Barry said, we can't have mercy without truth

00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:57.839
and justice. And I'll add, before justice can

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be experienced, Judgment must be administered.

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00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:07.910
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As in the Days of Noah, As in the Days of Moses,

00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:46.430
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00:31:46.430 --> 00:31:50.269
prophets have warned, judgment is coming. But

00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:53.049
those who repent and seek to be intentionally

00:31:53.049 --> 00:31:55.430
aligned with God the Father through faith in

00:31:55.430 --> 00:31:58.049
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participate with the bounty of God's justice.

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God has prophetically warned for several years

00:32:07.190 --> 00:32:10.250
now that He is soon to perform another Exodus,

00:32:10.490 --> 00:32:12.990
far greater than He did in Egypt, where His people

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will be delivered out of the bondage of evil,

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freed to worship Him, where the wealth of the

00:32:18.809 --> 00:32:21.529
wicked will be given over to the righteous, God's

00:32:21.529 --> 00:32:25.630
people, as a second chance to accomplish His

00:32:25.630 --> 00:32:30.750
will despite our failure. For context, the blog

00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:33.809
began by explaining the reason the world needs

00:32:33.809 --> 00:32:36.450
judgment is because God's people fail to properly

00:32:36.450 --> 00:32:40.150
uphold truth by making disciples in all nations.

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Now continuing the blog, quote, I believe all

00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:46.769
the signs for the flood of God's judgment and

00:32:46.769 --> 00:32:49.869
deliverance is immediately before us now. The

00:32:49.869 --> 00:32:52.809
recent peace deal between Israel and Hamas to

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quell the thousands of years of war brings peace

00:32:56.490 --> 00:33:00.730
perhaps the false peace referred to in 1 Thessalonians

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chapter 5 verse 3, potentially providing even

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more reason for God's people to use this time

00:33:06.750 --> 00:33:10.410
wisely. I see our immediate future as a time

00:33:10.410 --> 00:33:13.329
of reprieve from the intensity of spiritual battle

00:33:13.329 --> 00:33:16.049
that we should use to be refreshed and restored,

00:33:16.390 --> 00:33:19.990
ready to step into our place in God's plan, to

00:33:19.990 --> 00:33:23.029
reclaim what we have given up, and to rout the

00:33:23.029 --> 00:33:26.019
enemy back. Route is a military term meaning

00:33:26.019 --> 00:33:28.880
to defeat the enemy completely and force them

00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:35.859
to flee in a disorganized way." I see God urgently

00:33:35.859 --> 00:33:38.660
positioning his people, calling and equipping

00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:41.779
us to reclaim all the territory we have given

00:33:41.779 --> 00:33:45.680
up and to route the enemy with all God's might.

00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.019
As God spoke through Julie Green and as God has

00:33:49.019 --> 00:33:52.539
shown Barry in the visions he shared, we are

00:33:52.539 --> 00:33:55.789
in a war. We have been in a spiritual war for

00:33:55.789 --> 00:33:58.490
thousands of years, but God's people lost sight

00:33:58.490 --> 00:34:01.650
of that for decades, allowing the enemy to gain

00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:04.650
tremendous advancements, taking territory from

00:34:04.650 --> 00:34:08.550
us, from God. Now is the time God is ordering

00:34:08.550 --> 00:34:13.050
us to take it back. The Church has become much

00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:15.929
more of a social gathering place than the Ecclesia

00:34:15.929 --> 00:34:19.090
God always intended it to be. When Jesus said,

00:34:19.150 --> 00:34:22.469
I will build my church, he used the word ecclesia,

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which was fully understood by the people of his

00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:28.670
day to not be a building or a worship service

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or an organization. In fact, ecclesia was not

00:34:32.409 --> 00:34:35.750
a religious word, but a governmental term referencing

00:34:35.750 --> 00:34:38.809
a real -world example of the time which was a

00:34:38.809 --> 00:34:41.590
group of people in position of great influence

00:34:41.590 --> 00:34:45.639
in Athens. Ecclesia refers to an assembly or

00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.539
group of people called out from the overall population

00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:52.219
in order to govern. In the time of Jesus, an

00:34:52.219 --> 00:34:55.280
ecclesia played a central role in the political

00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.260
life of the city. The ecclesia had the power

00:34:58.260 --> 00:35:01.500
to nominate and elect magistrates who were responsible

00:35:01.500 --> 00:35:04.119
for administering the city's affairs and carrying

00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.719
out decisions of the assembly. The Ecclesia also

00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.300
had the authority to pass laws and to decide

00:35:10.300 --> 00:35:14.000
on issues related to foreign policy, defense,

00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.800
and the administration of justice. According

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.179
to study .com, quote, In addition to its legislative

00:35:21.179 --> 00:35:24.300
powers, the Ecclesia also participated in the

00:35:24.300 --> 00:35:27.900
judicial process in Athens. The Ecclesia members

00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:31.159
would try cases involving serious crimes such

00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.719
as murder, and they would impose punishments.

00:35:33.929 --> 00:35:37.130
This made it an important institution for ensuring

00:35:37.130 --> 00:35:39.730
justice and upholding their rule of law in the

00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:42.630
city. The Ecclesiast's powers and importance

00:35:42.630 --> 00:35:45.429
varied over time, but it remained an important

00:35:45.429 --> 00:35:48.550
part of the political landscape of Athens throughout

00:35:48.550 --> 00:35:52.230
the Classical period into the Hellenistic era."

00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:56.210
So you see how very different Christ meant the

00:35:56.210 --> 00:35:59.980
Church to be than what it has become today? Jesus

00:35:59.980 --> 00:36:02.820
always intended his people to be the primary

00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:06.119
influence of righteousness, upholding God's kingdom

00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:10.280
rule and operations in all world affairs, on

00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.519
all the seven mountains of society. These very

00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.820
days we're living are highly significant. I believe

00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:20.579
they are the most important times in God's plan,

00:36:20.980 --> 00:36:23.980
second only to Christ's first advent and his

00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:28.769
second coming. You are alive today. by God's

00:36:28.769 --> 00:36:33.510
design. You have a calling by God, a specific

00:36:33.510 --> 00:36:37.849
role to play in His plans for this very time.

00:36:38.829 --> 00:36:43.230
At this point, you can't simply live your life

00:36:43.230 --> 00:36:47.150
separate from all God is doing. He has made you

00:36:47.150 --> 00:36:50.789
aware of His plans and you are part of His plans.

00:36:51.289 --> 00:36:53.909
For you to fail to step into what God has revealed

00:36:53.909 --> 00:36:56.670
is desired of you. what He has already fully

00:36:56.670 --> 00:37:00.050
equipped and prepared you to do, would mean you

00:37:00.050 --> 00:37:03.309
will be held accountable for disobedience. Now

00:37:03.309 --> 00:37:06.269
I don't say that to condemn you, but to convince

00:37:06.269 --> 00:37:10.630
you of how important you are, how important these

00:37:10.630 --> 00:37:14.329
times are, and how the entire worldwide church

00:37:14.329 --> 00:37:18.710
needs you. We need to become the ecclesia Christ

00:37:18.710 --> 00:37:23.409
always meant us to be. I ask you, to intentionally

00:37:23.409 --> 00:37:26.650
take time with the Lord in prayer, seeking Him

00:37:26.650 --> 00:37:30.710
in any and all ways you need so you can confidently

00:37:30.710 --> 00:37:33.769
step into your God -given purpose for such a

00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:38.349
time as this. And as you do, expect God to anoint

00:37:38.349 --> 00:37:41.369
and bless you, giving you victory in ways you've

00:37:41.369 --> 00:37:44.619
never before experienced. As each of us does

00:37:44.619 --> 00:37:47.820
our part in God's plan, the entire world will

00:37:47.820 --> 00:37:51.340
be blessed and we will see a global transformation

00:37:51.340 --> 00:37:54.420
which I believe is essential in the preparation

00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:58.460
for Christ's return. Next week and the following,

00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.920
I'll be on vacation. The first one in 12 years.

00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.719
So I will either replay one of my most popular

00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.920
podcasts or bring you a special broadcast. Either

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.659
way you can expect the same level of content

00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:15.940
I always bring you with a deep heart desire for

00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:18.460
all of us to discover and live in life -giving

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:21.820
truth and experience all the hope truth provides.

00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:25.000
This month of November is the month for us to

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.559
finalize reservations for our ground tour in

00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.960
Greece scheduled for April 2026. If you have

00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.119
been thinking of joining us, it's not too late

00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:35.760
to sign up. All we need is your name and the

00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.059
number of people in your party. Confirmations

00:38:38.059 --> 00:38:40.340
and deposits for reservations will be expected

00:38:40.340 --> 00:38:43.199
later this month. We hope to get a group of about

00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.340
30 people signed up because this size group is

00:38:45.340 --> 00:38:47.960
best for this type tour. And the more people

00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:50.019
who sign up, the less the trip costs each of

00:38:50.019 --> 00:38:52.800
us. Some who previously signed up have had to

00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.099
let me know that their plans changed, which means

00:38:55.099 --> 00:38:58.019
we have more spots available now which we want

00:38:58.019 --> 00:39:00.880
to fill up. At this point, we need you to put

00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.260
your name on the reservation list and expect

00:39:03.260 --> 00:39:05.860
to pay your first deposit before months end.

00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:08.559
I'll explain more about the process of placing

00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:11.219
your reservation later in this podcast, but I

00:39:11.219 --> 00:39:14.789
urge you don't delay. Now, I ask you to please

00:39:14.789 --> 00:39:16.889
listen to my closing announcements and to take

00:39:16.889 --> 00:39:18.889
advantage of the many goods and services I bring

00:39:18.889 --> 00:39:21.030
you in an effort to at least cover the cost of

00:39:21.030 --> 00:39:23.670
this podcast. The first announcement clarifies

00:39:23.670 --> 00:39:26.250
more about the changes to our Greece tour scheduled

00:39:26.250 --> 00:39:30.329
for April 2026. So once again if you haven't

00:39:30.329 --> 00:39:32.110
signed up to join us and you've been thinking

00:39:32.110 --> 00:39:35.150
about it now is the time. It's hard to believe

00:39:35.150 --> 00:39:37.170
but we're in the month of November when we need

00:39:37.170 --> 00:39:39.730
to finalize the details about our planned ground

00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:44.010
tour in Greece in April 2026. This is the time

00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:46.530
we need to get final commitments with the first

00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:49.139
deposit due by the end of this month. We want

00:39:49.139 --> 00:39:51.320
to have about 30 people total because this size

00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.940
group works best for this type tour. We'll be

00:39:53.940 --> 00:39:55.880
walking in the footsteps of the Apostle Paul.

00:39:56.269 --> 00:39:58.969
We had nearly 30 people express interest before,

00:39:59.010 --> 00:40:01.289
but some have recently indicated their plans

00:40:01.289 --> 00:40:04.030
have changed, opening up additional spots we

00:40:04.030 --> 00:40:07.030
hope to fill. So if you think you'd like to be

00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:09.349
part of the Faith to Live By Christian Tour with

00:40:09.349 --> 00:40:13.570
me during April 2026, now is the time to commit.

00:40:14.090 --> 00:40:16.309
Attendees need to arrange their own air travel

00:40:16.309 --> 00:40:18.849
to and from the Athens International Airport.

00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.019
Details of the daily agenda during the tour can

00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:25.159
be found on my Beyond the Podcast page. You'll

00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.579
find the link in the show notes. If you decide

00:40:27.579 --> 00:40:29.880
you want to join us, simply send me an email

00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:33.420
at faithtoliveby at pamelachristianministries

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:36.280
.com with the words Greece Tour in the subject

00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.820
line and your name and the number of people in

00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:41.559
your party in the body of the email. I hope to

00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:43.719
hear from you soon because we only have through

00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:48.820
the end of November to finalize this tour. If

00:40:48.820 --> 00:40:50.920
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