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Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith

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to Live By. I'm Pam Christian, the researcher,

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writer, producer, and host of this podcast, where

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each week I help us explore current events from

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a biblical and prophetic perspective. My guest

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again today is Barry Wunsch, a most respected

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modern -day prophet of God who resides in Canada

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and has acquired the moniker of the Canadian

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hammer. I relate with Barry in that description,

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since one woman described me as precisely the

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velvet hammer the church needs today. Well, my

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impact seems to be consistent based on other

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descriptions of me. For example, while I was

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speaking to a live audience, another woman shouted

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out saying, ouch, that hurt, but hit me again.

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We all laughed. And another time while a group

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of us were waiting in a buffet line, one woman

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turned to me and said, you are the nicest bully

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I have ever met. Well that one made all of us

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in line laugh out loud. And there are other descriptions

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of me from people who have heard me speak and

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teach. You might enjoy reading. I've got a link

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to the testimonial page in the show notes. Barry

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is here to share recent prophetic visions God

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has given him that based on current events we

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have every reason to expect to be eminently fulfilled.

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As I explained last week, when God gives us prophecy,

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it's to warn us so we can intentionally align

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ourselves with God to make certain we are in

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His protection and provision. Additionally, God

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gives us prophecy so we can be actively engaged

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in what He is doing, working in partnership with

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Him to see His kingdom will done on earth as

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it is in heaven. I want us to understand how

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prophecy works by knowing there are two different

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kinds of God's prophetic promises. There are

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conditional and unconditional. When it comes

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to conditional promises, God expects us to respond

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as he instructs in order for us to benefit from

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his promise. Let me explain. When it comes to

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conditional promises or prophecy, God always

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reveals what will happen based on our response.

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The best example of a conditional promise or

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prophecy is found in the offer of salvation.

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Now, let's consider why God offers humanity salvation.

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According to the first book in the Bible, Genesis,

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when God created the first man in his image,

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he specifically commanded him saying, of every

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tree in the garden you may eat freely. But of

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the tree of knowledge of good and evil you shall

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not eat, for in the day you eat of it you shall

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surely die." Soon afterwards, from the first

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man known as Adam, God created the first woman,

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who was later named Eve, recognizing her to become

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the mother of all humanity. At this point, both

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Adam and Eve were holy and pure, able to freely

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relate to God without any hindrance. God intended

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Adam and Eve to conceive, and through their offspring,

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God's beloved humanity would come forth. However,

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before they had any children, the enemy of God

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known as Satan enticed the first woman to reject

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God's specific instructions and to eat from the

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forbidden tree. She in turn persuaded her husband

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Adam to also eat of it. In so doing, just as

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God prophetically forewarned, their action resulted

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in their pure eternal spirits dying, which meant

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eternal separation from God and all that is good.

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This act of rejecting God's instruction was in

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reality the rejection of God Himself and their

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choice to be aligned with Satan instead. This

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brought sin and evil into all of creation and

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resulted in what we refer to as our fallen world.

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It was and is ever and only God's will for all

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humanity to be in right relationship with him

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as his children. However, now all the offspring

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of Adam and Eve would be born with the same spiritually

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dead condition, making them, making all of us,

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enemies of God from birth. Grieved at the estrangement

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of his human offspring in his love and supreme

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creative power, God promised the first man and

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woman a way of escape from the rejection of God,

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which is sin. This promise or covenant with God

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required they willingly obey His instructions

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for redemption that would grant them salvation.

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In other words, their ability to be redeemed

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was conditional based on their obedience. It

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was through an act of individual human will that

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sin entered humanity. Therefore, it requires

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an act of each individual's will to be restored

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to God. The offer of redemption, then, is a perfect

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example of a conditional prophetic promise of

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God. An example of God's unconditional prophetic

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promise is Jesus' return in the final stages

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of God's promise of redemption. Jesus' return

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is not conditioned on anything we do. It will

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happen, regardless who does or does not choose

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to be restored into a right relationship with

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God the Father through faith in Jesus Christ

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by the power of the third person of God known

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as the Holy Spirit. Now, in anticipation of questions

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some may have hearing just this much, God makes

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certain every human being ever born is aware

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of the choice before them. Part of how he accomplishes

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this is through those of us who have chosen life,

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who have chosen to be restored to God through

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faith in Jesus, and then we become the messengers

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of the gospel, which is the offer of redemption.

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We are to help others learn of the truth of the

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choice before them. And all throughout history,

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we have testimonies of people who were never

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reached with the message of the gospel through

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a human being directly. And God instead supernaturally

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made them aware of the offer through visions,

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dreams, and encounters. Today, for example, there

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are countless people from the Middle East reporting

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supernatural encounters that have brought them

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to a proper faith in Jesus. You can find reports

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of this all over the internet, and you might

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want to use the links I provided in the show

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notes as a starting point. A word of caution,

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however. God has commissioned those of us. who

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discover the truth of Jesus to share the gospel

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message with others. In Matthew chapter 20 verses

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18 to 20 we read Jesus's word saying all authority

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in heaven and on earth has been given to me therefore

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go and make disciples of all nations baptizing

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them in the name of the father and of the son

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and of the holy spirit and teaching them to obey

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everything i have commanded you and surely i

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am with you always to the very end of the age.

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And elsewhere in the Bible, we learn of those

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of us who have come to believe and receive Jesus

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as our Savior and Lord, being fully equipped

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to do what Jesus has commissioned us to do. Therefore,

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we will be held accountable regarding this instruction,

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regarding this great commission. I offer that

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caution because I don't want anyone to believe

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they can shirk this privileged duty of sharing

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the gospel, waiting on God to supernaturally

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present Jesus to others. I also offer that as

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a framework for what you will now hear from Barry

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Wunsch. If you don't know about Barry, he is

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a Canadian prophet and a consultant with a deep

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love for Canada, wielding the heart of a reformer.

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Through his 20 plus years in ministry, Barry

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has become recognized as a humble prophet of

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God, unrelenting in his calling. He has been

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uniquely positioned to influence strategic men

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and women to usher God's will for the nation

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of Canada, and he's been entrusted by God to

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share prophecies for other nations of the world

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as well. You can learn more about Barry from

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the link in the show notes. Picking up from last

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week, I start at the point where Barry emphasizes

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the importance of righteous men and women fulfilling

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various roles in the governments of nations,

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so that the righteous rule and the people rejoice,

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as opposed to what the nations of the world have

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suffered in recent decades under the leadership

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of the wicked. Now here's part two of my interview

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with Barry Wunsch. But I'm going to say that

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there's actually another level here that we don't

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like to talk about and that's actually governmentally.

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And bringing, you know, governmental leaders,

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you know, from a kingdom position of governance

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under the father. to reign in his values, standards,

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and ethics. The sovereignty of God and the rule

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of law. As we do that, you start to see a nation

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changed. That's why we see President Trump is

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doing this in extraordinary ways. His influence

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upon other nations as he's putting pressure on

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this and pressure on that, it's causing a manifestation

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of the deep state and the evil kings to manifest.

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And they're very uncomfortable with losing this

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position of tyrancy that they've had, you know,

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bringing destabilization. And so, you know, my

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understanding is this, and we know that there

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are leaders that operate, you know, in and through

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powers and principalities that you know, global

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ones that, you know, bring great harm. And so

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there does, in fact, come a time, you know, whether

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we like to believe it or not, where you kind

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of have to root those things out. And God will

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give an anointing for that to protect His people.

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So I know I said a lot there, but, you know,

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I hope that makes some sense. Absolutely, I appreciate

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how you explain prophecy and that what God is

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giving you with these visions and dreams and

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the different ways that He downloads information

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to you, because you are one of His proven trusted

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prophets, His servant, what God is giving you

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is a glimpse. into what's going on in the spiritual

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realm that is about to manifest in the natural

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realm so that you can alert God's people. And

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just as you said, we can partner with God and

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go into prayer to have the victory that He is

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showing you actually come to pass. Now, you mentioned

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a lot of nations. I mean, I heard you say China

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and Ukraine and America, and I think you even

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said North Korea. Are there more nations that

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you saw in this experience? specifically highlighted

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to me. And these ones, you know, there are nations

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that detest what is being revealed here and what

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light is exposing. And let's face it, there are

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nations that have intentions to bring great harm

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upon North American soil. Now you also mentioned

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the peace treaty with Israel and Hamas. Yes.

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So there's got to be many nations in the Middle

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East that are going to be impacted by all of

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this that the Lord downloaded. Yes. You know,

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so I think here is where we need tremendous discernment.

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You know, as these things are confronted, you

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know, and this balance of power shifts, you know,

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we've got You know we we know that in in years

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past there's been threats against America from

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and even recently with America going in and and

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doing the strike and around You know taking out

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a bunch of their nuclear facilities that you

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know basically they want to wipe Israel off the

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map and they want to want to wipe you know us

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in the West off the map and so you know these

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are these are some of the things that are Are

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kind of standing in the way So I think one of

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the things that we do need to really pick up

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in prayer are these threats within, you know,

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the American cities that, you know, the deep

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state, the cabal, you know, there are threats

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on American soil that have bad intentions. And

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so this is where, you know, with President Trump,

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you know, bringing forward the Insurrection Act,

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you know, this is not... You know, this is his

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intention to go and root out and pull out these

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international threats that are on your soil and

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on Canadian soil for that matter. And so, you

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know, I think this is a pretty big deal because

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it could strike a lot of fear into people, you

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know, when you see that this kind of moment,

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you know, kind of going on. So that's one thing

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that I think we do really need to to pray about

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is that, is again, that no weapon formed against

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us will prosper and that these ones that need

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to be rooted out will be. You know, as I was

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hearing the events unfold with President Trump

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negotiating and helping to have negotiated the

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peace deal in the Middle East, one of the things

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that came to me loud and clear was the scriptures

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talking about when they say, peace, peace, then

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the end shall come. Right. How has that struck

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you? How has this real -world situation struck

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you in your spirit when it comes to what the

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Lord has revealed in the book of Revelation?

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Yeah, well, you know what, I look at it this

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way. You know, I think there are a lot of folks

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that are looking to get on a rapture rug or kind

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of be beamed out of here, you know, before a

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conflict. you know personally I believe that

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the Lord never has run away from a fight in his

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life nor has he ever lost one and and I think

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that he's actually looking you know to get believers

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off the couch and actually function a little

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bit and I think that you know that whole uh you

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know rapture theology has really hurt us because

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it's put us in an in a mode of of neutral neutrality

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where you know, we're going to be kind of beamed

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out of here anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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And so, you know, I'm not a super, you know,

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for me when it comes into the, you know, the

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theology of, you know, this or that, you know,

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for me, you know, I just think it's going to

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unfold much differently than what perhaps we've

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been taught. And perhaps those being taken out

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of the way first are evil ones. You know, that

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could maybe be more like it, by whatever means

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that happens. That sure seems to be what the

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Lord's been communicating through His prophets

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in recent months. That's at least how I take

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it as well. And I also think of Jesus saying

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that when He returns, will He find faith? God

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is strengthening the body of Christ. My statement

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often has been that Jesus is not returning for

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a bride that is wimpy and weak. pure and spotless

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bride who has made herself ready. And I think

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part of what we've been dealing with, especially

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since 2020, has been an urgent pressing by the

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Lord to make the Ecclesia ready for His plans

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and His will on earth. That's right. That's right.

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You know, I think that, you know, that old saying,

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faith without works is dead. And a lot of people

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say, well, what can I do? Well, do you know what

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you can pray? You can make some phone calls.

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You can share. There's different ways that you

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can get involved. And I think the other part

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is that the Church is really going through some

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big transformation. And I think that even that

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is going to look a lot different. And we've gotten

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used to kind of a church that you know it's more

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spectator sometimes than it is actually function

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and so you know when when we look at all the

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giftings that he's put in his body each and every

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one is important and and how does that come it

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comes through relationship it comes through you

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know we are the church he's in you he's in me

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he's in all the viewers we are the church you

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know where it's not contained in a building And

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so I think that He's looking to see people activated

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in that love in Him, in their community, at their

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jobs, at their, you know, bringing hope, bringing

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love, bringing healing, bringing, you know, encouragement.

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You know, these are places where I believe the

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body really, you know, needs to shine and just

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have a boldness and a... courageousness in love

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to bring hope, you know, at their workplaces

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and, you know, whether they're in the hospital

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or whether they're in a boardroom or, you know,

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wherever they're positioned, you know, they can

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be light. And, you know, a little bit of light

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goes a long way. So, I think that this activation

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for God's people is really important, you know,

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bringing, you know, the love of God, the peace

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of God, and even understanding in the time. I

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like the word activation. You know, I'm reminded

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of how often Christians will be asking, when

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is God going to respond? When is God going to

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answer our prayers? And I think just as you pointed

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out, God is waiting on us to step into the positions

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he's assigned to us in the authority and power

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of Jesus Christ and to make his difference, his

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kingdom difference in this world just by doing

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what he's asked of us. Yeah, and I think that

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we've abdicated our positions, quite frankly,

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and that's why, you know, probably we could,

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a large element of why we're in the position

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we're in is because we've kind of abdicated our,

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you know, we haven't been involved. We've been

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kind of, you know, isolated out of function,

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you know, in our communities and our nation in

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practical ways. So I think this is also a turning

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point. Absolutely. Now one of the things where

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people are anxious and really been waiting to

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see God work is in holding people accountable,

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holding these tyrannical leaders and influencers

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in positions of power accountable for the atrocities

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that they've committed. And you shared with me

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that there are tribunals that are actually taking

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place right now, that the Lord has actually spoke

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to you about this. Yeah, yeah, he'd actually

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taken me into a prophetic encounter Where I was

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brought on to was like a big aircraft carrier

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and I was taken into an area where there was

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kind of a courtroom and and You know, they had

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holding cells in the back and but I mean this

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was a no -business kind of deal I mean they were

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these guys were not fooling around and And so

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they were literally, you know, I was taken around

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and as they were actually had special ops gathering

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up, arresting people. And incidentally, there

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was actually an angelic host, American Eagles,

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and an angelic host, and they were assisting

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the boots on the ground to go nation to nation

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and apprehending not only governmental officials,

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bureaucrats, judges, lawyers, business people,

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media. Anyone that was involved that had blood

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on their hands or had a form of corruption or

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involvement in darkness and crimes against humanity.

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And so they were actually gathering them up,

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put them on helicopters, you know, mobilizing

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them, taking them onto this ship and actually

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then doing military tribunals. in international

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waters, which does apparently work much differently

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than the courts that we know. So these guys,

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when they were brought in, there was a head table

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for these generals and these officials, and then

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there was a little table for these defendants

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to come and sit, you know, in their handcuffs.

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They were brought in in shackles and, you know,

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kind of given their... Now, they didn't have

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a big fancy lawyer that they'd paid off to block

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it or pay off a judge. This was a much different

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matter. This was Face the Music Time. And so,

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you know, as they were brought forward, I mean,

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it was very sobering. It was very kind of end

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of the line. And justice was being served. And

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so within that, you know, there were... You know,

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people taking out of positions, but the Lord

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was putting people in. See, you can take an evil

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king out of a place or an evil leader, but there'll

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be ten more stacked up to take his seat. But

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the Lord had orchestrated righteous men and women

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to stamp in the positions of authority to take

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the reins over and clean things. up and so this

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was you know was taken a little longer than what

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you know people had hoped but there would be

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nothing that would be left behind and they had

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secured every server internationally that held

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evidence that needed to be brought forth to to

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bring justice so they were going through with

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a fine -tooth comb like there would be nothing

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nothing nothing that would be left and so so

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anyway I share this word publicly and then I

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was told that Barry, this is actually happening.

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This is actually going on. Right now? Yeah. So

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this was probably, I know when I first released

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three, four weeks ago. Yeah. So that was very

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encouraging for me to hear. Yeah. You know, cause

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you, cause you hear things second, third, fourth

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hand, but when you get a kind of firsthand, it's

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like, Oh wow. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, so isn't

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that crazy how the Lord will use just a simple

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little farm boy from Alberta, Canada? Stopping

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here for today, let me first state, Barry may

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be a simple farm boy from Canada, but in his

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humility he is used powerfully by God in God's

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kingdom. May this kind of humility and kingdom

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effectiveness be true for all of us. To recap,

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Barry first brought up the topic of government

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as one that the Church has shied away from, which

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frankly has given opportunity for evil, tyrannical

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people to rule in the nations of the world. And,

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as Barry explained, God has been at work, through

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President Trump and others, to expose these evil

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rulers who are in reality operating under the

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spirit of the Antichrist. We must undergird President

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Trump and the other major world leaders in other

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nations who are actively engaged in rooting out

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evil. We are called by God to partner with him

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in prayer to see his kingdom well done on earth

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as it is in heaven. We certainly must pray God's

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word and his will which includes decreeing and

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declaring no weapon formed against us as God's

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people will prosper. We need to decree and declare

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the destruction of all evil inroads, strategies,

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and platforms established in opposition to God's

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revealed will for the present day, for the restriction

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and confinement of evil wherever it exists. Barry

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talked about President Trump calling on the Insurrection

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Act, which as explained last week is a power

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given to the President of the United States in

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1807 by federal law that allows the President

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to deploy the United States military and to federalize

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the National Guard units of individual states

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in specific circumstances. This allows the President

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to identify and arrest foreign international

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threats on American soil. I asked Barry about

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his consideration of the scripture that indicates

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there will be a time when the world cries peace,

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peace, which certainly is something we expect

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with the many peace treaties President Trump

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has helped negotiate worldwide. especially that

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with Israel and Hamas. That passage is found

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in 1 Thessalonians 5 .3, not Revelation, as I

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stated, but my consideration is, as it is for

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many, to have an understanding where we are on

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God's timeline specific to the end times that

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are revealed throughout Scripture. Barry touched

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on the doctrine of the Church being raptured

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out of this evil world before the Great Tribulation,

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which by the way is the very newest of all end

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-time theology, which is not consistent with

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what the early Church believed. Barry spoke of

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the very real potential of evil people being

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taken out long before any rapture, and I pointed

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out that the Book of Revelation does not paint

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the picture of a cowering victim bride being

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raptured. but rather a spotless courageous bride

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who has made herself ready to be taken up to

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meet Christ for the wedding supper of the Lamb.

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God actually has a pattern of removing evil people

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from this world for the sake of his own people.

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So I ask you to consider the great flood where

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all the people of the world except eight individuals

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were removed because sin and wickedness had increased

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so much. That's in the book of Genesis. Consider

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the Exodus when God used Moses to deliver his

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people from evil bondage where an estimated two

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to three million of God's people were kept safe

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while God administered judgment against the Egyptians

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whose population at the time is estimated to

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have been between two to five million people.

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This is recorded in the book of Exodus. Then

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there was Korah's rebellion against Moses as

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Moses was leading the people to the promised

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land recorded in the book of Numbers. In this

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setting God removed about 250 evil men from the

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total estimated of two to three million population

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of the Hebrews. Then all the way forward to our

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day where God has repeatedly promised that his

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people will be safe while he administers judgment

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against the wicked. Today, it's estimated about

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30 % of the world population are Christian. I

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realize there are many other people God considers

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righteous who may not be counted as Christians

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in the estimates I could find, but consider,

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God could be administering judgment in varying

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types against as much as 70 % of the world population

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in our day for the sake of His righteous. I only

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offer these estimated numbers to make the point

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God has a repeated pattern of removing wicked

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from the earth for the sake of the righteous,

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hopefully giving cause for the people who are

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hoping to be raptured out of this evil world

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reason to reconsider their theology. Barry helped

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us understand that God is already at work judging

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the wicked for which those found guilty of treason

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will mean their removal from the earth. by way

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of death. I appreciate how Barry explained removing

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evil people from positions of authority is not

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enough. What must follow is for righteous men

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and women to step up and take the place of the

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wicked rulers to see God's kingdom will done

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on earth as it is in heaven. At this point, I

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asked Barry if God has revealed his judgment

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in dealings with the church, referencing 1 Peter

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chapter 4. Unfortunately, I said verse 14 when

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the verse is actually 17. This verse is very

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clear. Judgment of God begins with the house

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of the Lord. It begins with the ecclesia, which

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will be our starting point for part three of

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my interview with Barry available next week.

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I sincerely hope this not only helps you in your

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theology and doctrine, but that you are even

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more convinced of the importance of your role

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in praying God's will over evil to be accomplished

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on earth as it is in heaven and that you are

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seriously seeking God to know his plans for your

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life in such a time as this. I'd love to hear

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from you. Let me know how this week's podcast

00:28:35.619 --> 00:28:38.759
impacted you and be sure to come back next week

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.180
when I'll publish part three of my interview

00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:44.079
with Barry Wunsch where he will share other prophetic

00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:47.200
words God has given him for us in these days

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so we can all be engaged in the spiritual warfare

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and experience all the promises and victory God

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has for us. This month of November is the month

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for us to finalize reservations for our ground

00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.920
tour in Greece, scheduled for April 2026. If

00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.900
you've been thinking about joining us, it's not

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:07.480
too late to sign up. All we need is your name

00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.539
and the number of people in your party. Confirmations

00:29:10.539 --> 00:29:12.880
and deposits for reservations will be expected

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.759
later in this month of November. We hope to get

00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:17.559
a group of about 30 people signed up because

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this size group is the best for this type tour

00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.779
and the more people who sign up the less the

00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:25.839
trip costs each one of us. Some who have previously

00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.819
signed up have had to let me know their plans

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:30.440
changed which means we have more spots available

00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.599
now which we hope to fill up. At this point it's

00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:35.500
just a matter of putting your name in on the

00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:37.880
reservation list with your final confirmation

00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.109
coming up in the next few weeks. I'll explain

00:29:41.109 --> 00:29:43.410
more about the process of placing your reservation

00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:46.369
in just a few minutes, but I urge you don't delay.

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Now I ask you to please listen to my closing

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announcements and to take advantage of the many

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goods and services I bring you in an effort to

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at least cover the cost of this podcast. The

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first announcement clarifies more about the changes

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to our Greece tour scheduled for April 2026.

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Again, if you haven't signed up, to join us.

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Please listen carefully and follow the instructions

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because I really want all of us to be able to

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connect up in Greece. It may seem far off, but

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most people make plans for a significant vacation

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about a year in advance. So if you haven't already

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expressed interest in traveling with us in April

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2026, now is the time to do so. We want to have

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about 30 people total because this size group

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works best for the specific tour I have in mind.

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We'll be walking the footsteps of the Apostle

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Paul. I'm using the time between now and October

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2025 to determine if we have enough interest.

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And the trend indicates we definitely should.

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We have just about 30 people on the list now,

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but I'd like to have more because when it comes

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to the actual day of making a commitment, things

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could have changed. And I want to be able to

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have at least 30 actually attend the tour. So

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if you think you'd like to be part of the Faith

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to Live by Christian Tour with me in Greece during

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April 2026, now is the time to get your name

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and number in your party on the list. There's

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no obligation at this point. You're just expressing

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your interest. Attendees need to arrange their

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own air travel to and from the Athens International

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Airport. To get your name on the list, send an

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email to faithtoliveby at pamelchristianministries

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.com with the word Greece in the subject line.

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In the body of the email, provide your name,

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contact information, and number of people you

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expect to be in your party. This will place your

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name on the Interested in Attending list but

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does not obligate you in any way. It merely assures

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you have first right of refusal when down payments

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are due. If you didn't get the details written

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down that I just shared, simply visit my Beyond

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the Podcast page using the link in the show notes.

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If you like what you hear from me with this podcast,

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you to remember, Christ died for us. The least

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we can do is live for Him.
