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Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith

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to Live By. I'm the researcher, writer, producer,

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and host of this weekly podcast where I help

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us explore current events from a biblical and

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prophetic perspective so we, as God's children,

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can know how He wants us to respond. For the

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past four to five weeks, I've been doing my best

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to send out the warnings about artificial intelligence

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and digital systems that are being used by governments

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around the world to ultimately enslave all the

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people of the world. beginning with my podcast

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with Mel Kay as my guest, and for several weeks

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that followed where Kay Rubachek and then Twyla

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Braze were my guests, I've been bringing out

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the many ways technocracy is a serious threat

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and how it is being established through a variety

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of means. I expected to have Dr. Scott Young

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as my guest today to help us be better informed

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about the economy and the impact of the United

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States government shutdown on the world. But

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when I read several headlines about the rapid

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response to tracking and tracing of human beings,

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I knew the topic of tyrannical technocracy needed

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more attention. You can expect Dr. Scott on to

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talk about the economy soon, but for today and

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the next week or so we will stay on the topic

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of illegal tracking and tracing. So I expect

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you'll be as elated as I am today that we will

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hear from highly respected and renowned Dr. Peter

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McCullough. The first I learned of Dr. McCullough

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was in 2020 when he became a public figure for

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researching and promoting the truth behind the

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COVID -19 virus and the exposing of unproven

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treatment protocols. As Dr. McCullough can uniquely

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attest, his research has revealed the deeply

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sinister realities that are integrated with various

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other human enslavement practices, which we'll

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share with you today in just a bit. And in the

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subsequent interviews I'll have with Dr. McCullough,

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you will also be provided with real and practical

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helps to regain and protect your health and avoid

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becoming one who is considered chattel to be

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owned by the globalists. Before I get into what

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I have planned for today, I certainly cannot

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fail to highlight the miraculous peace deal President

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Trump has been instrumental in accomplishing

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between Israel and Hamas, directly impacting

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all of the Middle East and indirectly impacting

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the whole world, and also highlighting the ecstatic

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rejoicing over the release of the men and women

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who were held as hostage for over two years.

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Before and after photographs of them were reminiscent

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of Holocaust victims. Through his trusted prophets,

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God has had a lot to say about the Middle East

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in these times, which I will address in a future

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podcast. But for today, let's pause and thank

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God for his tremendous intervention. As I say

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each week, I can't possibly cover all the worthy

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headlines with my weekly podcast, but I do post

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on my social media daily where I hope you'll

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choose to let us also connect so we can cover

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more together and know what God wants his people

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to do. Dutch Sheets did an excellent job of outlining

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what this peace deal in the Middle East actually

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means with his Give Him 15 podcast on October

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14th, 2025. I highly recommend it and I've provided

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a link for you in the show notes. One excerpt

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from Dutch's post is quote, While the excitement

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over the release of the hostages is palpable,

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many details of the peace plan remain to be finalized.

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These include the governance of Gaza, the disarmament

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of Hamas, which they have thus far rejected,

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and Gaza's demand for statehood. So far Israel

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is saying no to that. End quote. Also, Hamas

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headlines of October 14th, after the peace deal

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was reached, claimed they tried to protect the

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hostages while in captivity. Based on what they

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did, on the day of the October 7th massacre alone,

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not to mention the many reports of horrific treatment

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and murdering of hostages, we must remember this

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peace deal was made with the devil, who is a

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liar. Awareness of his schemes is essential,

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especially from this point forward. The Bible

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is clear end time events are still to take place

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in this region of the world. Of the many headlines

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and news reports that are related to my topic

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for today, one article I read explained that

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Senator Rand Paul just unveiled a bill to repeal

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real ID halt digital surveillance expansion.

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Those who listened to last week's podcast understand

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that deserves jubilant elation and all of our

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support. I don't know if Senator Paul heard my

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podcast, but he has certainly heard enough to

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know that, as I stated, the United States real

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ID is real bad. On the topic of digital ID, Maria

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Zee, host of the Daily Pulse, published, quote,

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The digital noose is tightening in every country

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with no exception in lockstep. United Kingdom

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recently announced a mandatory digital ID to

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work and immediately a petition was posted online

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to oppose this that garnered over a million responses

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in 48 hours and the government responded with

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well we're going to do it anyway. The government

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of Canada is planning to cut the internet and

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phone service of anyone who says something the

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government doesn't like online. In Australia,

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by the end of this year, no one will even be

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able to conduct a Google search without age verification,

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which the eSafety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant

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has now confirmed could be enforced by digital

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ID. All of these countries have introduced these

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measures through a sustained propaganda campaign

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about keeping children safe online, and of course

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it has nothing to do with keeping children safe

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online. It's about instituting a social credit

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system online that will eventually be linked

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to your ability to access your money. We're drawing

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all of these parallels from all of these countries

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because similar efforts are underway in the United

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States. COSA, which stands for Kids Online Safety

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Act legislation, has already passed the Senate,

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something we've been warning about for a very

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long time. And let's take a Republican AG, for

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example. As of 2025, Louisiana has enacted several

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pieces of legislation aimed at protecting children

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online, including the Online Child Age Limitation

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Act HB 577. Dig deep enough and you'll find age

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verification, meaning eventual digital ID linked

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to all of these efforts." End quote. I also read

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a post on X from Nicholas Hulsher, who is an

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epidemiologist and administrator of the McCullough

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Foundation. He wrote, quote, the Bill and Melinda

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Gates Foundation has funded skin implants, micro

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needle patches that deliver permanent quantum

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dots to verify vaccination status. The authors

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of the Gates funded study note that the quantum

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dot markings should persist for at least five

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years. The quantum dots S10C5HQDs encapsulated

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in polymethacrylate microspheres can be detected

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with adapted smartphones for use in real -world

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settings. Quantum dot implants would be used

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as biological vaccine passports, where their

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detection in human skin would be required to

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enter grocery stores, restaurants, gyms, and

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to travel." If you've been listening to my recent

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podcasts, learning of this technology and use

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of tracking and tracing people won't shock you,

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but it certainly should enrage you. Perhaps you

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were first introduced to the reality of evil

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government's efforts of tracking and tracing

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people when the mandates for the so -called COVID

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-19 vaccinations came out. I covered a lot about

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the content of the vaccinations and how ultimately

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patented injections change human DNA making humans

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property owned by the vaccination cabal. Is that

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claim too far -fetched for you to believe? Well

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then please listen to my podcast episode number

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239 titled, A Win If We Can Keep It, where I

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explain how it's been the long planned goals

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of the globalists as published in their Agenda

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2025, which was amended to be their Agenda 2030,

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where they want to own and enslave people through

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vaccinations. This is just one of several episodes

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that exposes such truths. It's proven evil governments

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seek to track, trace, control, and enslave the

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people of the world through vaccine technology,

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ID compliance, digital surveillance, implanting

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chips, biometric identification, and more. And

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gratefully, more and more people are becoming

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aware of these truths and resisting them. And

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then there's Seth Holhouse, host and producer

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of Man in America, who also recently covered

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this far -reaching topic, stating, quote, the

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same system enslaving China is coming for the

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free world, digital IDs, social credit, and programmable

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money. Just days ago, the United Kingdom government

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announced mandatory digital IDs, which will soon

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be required just to work. At the same time, in

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Vietnam, authorities froze 86 million bank accounts

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overnight because citizens had not registered

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their biometric data. Think about that in terms

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of millions of people in a single day locked

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out of their own livelihoods because they didn't

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comply with a digital system. No court hearing,

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no due process, no human voice on the other end.

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Just the cold logic of a computer saying, access

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denied. He continues, these aren't isolated incidents.

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They are early test runs of a worldwide technocratic

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agenda, one that uses technology as the instrument

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of total social control. And the frightening

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truth is we are far closer to it than most people

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realize. What's being constructed is a system

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of technocracy, a global operating system where

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every human being is tagged tracked, scored,

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and controlled through digital mechanisms. It's

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being sold to us as convenience and safety, but

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it is the architecture of enslavement. The good

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news? We can still stop it, but only if we understand

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how it works. Whole House continues citing the

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globalist publish plans. Agenda 21 and Agenda

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2030 are not conspiracy theories. They are real

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United Nations documents outlining a plan to

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inventory and control all land, water, minerals,

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plants, animals, and human beings under one centralized

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global system. The language sounds benign. Sustainability,

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equity, resilience. But the goal is clear. consolidate

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power under a global managerial class, remove

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private ownership, and erase national sovereignty

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in the name of the planet. It's not about protecting

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nature, it's about owning it. However, here's

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the good news. This can still be stopped, but

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it won't be stopped by voting harder or tweeting

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louder. It starts with awareness, courage, and

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non -compliance. Tonight, of course he's speaking

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of his podcast, he says, I'm breaking it down

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into what I'll call the five pillars of technocracy.

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Once you see these pillars clearly, you'll understand

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how every new innovation from digital IDs to

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climate restrictions fits neatly into the single

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suffocating plan. The five pillars of technocracy

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are digital ID, biometric monitoring, track and

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trace surveillance, social credit and AI control,

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and central bank. digital currencies." End quote.

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Seth addressed the very same issues I have been

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bringing to you, and I have a link to his podcast

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which I strongly recommend you watch. Based on

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all of this, I reached out to the McCullough

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Foundation, and to my surprise, I was actually

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communicating directly with Dr. Peter McCullough.

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And in short order, I was able to confirm him

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as my guest for you today. You'll find my interview

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with Dr. McCullough to confirm much of what we've

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suspected about our past and confirm matters

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of grave concern regarding our future. At the

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same time, you'll find real and certain hope

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to overcome personal health issues imposed on

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us through the COVID -19 virus and the treatment

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protocols. And you'll find hope for a path forward

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to prevent the enemy's plans from succeeding.

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However, before I start the interview with Dr.

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McCullough, I must remind you, if you've been

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thinking of joining us on our ground tour of

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Greece in April next year, now is the time to

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get your name in and the number of people in

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your party. Confirmations and deposits for reservations

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will be expected in November. We want to get

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a group of about 30 people signed up because

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this size group is the best for this type tour.

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And the more people who sign up, the less the

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trip costs each of us. Some who previously signed

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up have had to let me know that their plans changed

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which means we have some spots available now

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which we want to fill up. At this point it's

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just a matter of putting your name on the reservation

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list with your final confirmation in the next

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month. I'll explain more about the process of

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reservation in this podcast a little later but

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I urge you please do not delay. Now let me bring

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on Dr. McCullough. I suspect you already know

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he is recognized as a distinct leader throughout

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his career, coming to be more publicly known

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for his work and research specific to the COVID

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-19 virus. The globalists are not at all happy

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with what he has revealed and the successes he

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has had in helping people, which explains the

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misleading biographical details about him found

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on Wikipedia. I hope you know Wikipedia is not

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a viable source on many levels. Dr. McCullough's

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official biography is impressive, lengthy, and

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can be read on the American Journal of Cardiology

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website. For the purposes of this introduction,

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however, please note Dr. McCullough is an internist,

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cardiologist, epidemiologist, holding degrees

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from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern

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Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern

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Methodist University. Dr. McCalla has been broadly

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published on a range of topics in medicine with

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more than 1 ,000 publications and more than 700

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citations in the National Library of Medicine.

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Dr. McCalla is a well -known public figure in

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medicine and is a frequent contributor on numerous

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mainstream and independent media platforms. He

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has testified multiple times in the United States

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Senate, the United States House of Representatives,

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European Parliament, and many state capitals

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concerning public health policy. Please, ready

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yourself to hear directly from him now and expect

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to gain a great deal for your personal benefit

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and to share with those you love from this interview.

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Dr. Peter McCullough, I'm so grateful and honored

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that you are part of my program. I've known about

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you for years and I'm very much appreciative

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that my audience isn't going to be able to hear

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from you directly because there's a lot of misinformation

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out there. But before we get into the topics

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of what we've planned for today, would you give

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my audience a little bit of background about

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yourself, please? Well, I'm delighted to be on

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the program. I'm Dr. Peter McCullough. I am in

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practice as an internist, a cardiologist. I'm

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a research epidemiologist. I'm in practice in

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Dallas, Texas. In addition to my clinical practice,

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I am the president of the McCullough Foundation

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and investigative research as well as media foundation.

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And I am the chief scientific officer of the

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wellness company. In the last five years, I've

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been very involved in the pandemic response.

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I was the first to publish a protocol on how

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to help patients avoid hospitalization and death

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using multiple drugs in combination. And then

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I was the first to publish. the first detoxification

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protocol. That is what to do when one has actually

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contracted the virus and has residual long COVID

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symptoms or has taken one of the vaccines. This

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is a lot of good information that I want to make

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sure we bring to my audience with you. And again,

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thank you for being on the program. Let's talk

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about how you began being involved with the actuality

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of COVID -19. I imagine it was in 2020. In 2020,

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I was a full professor of medicine at Baylor

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in Dallas. And, you know, like so many doctors,

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this was the first big challenge that I had faced,

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a global pandemic that clearly could take the

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lives of elderly and those vulnerable to infectious

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disease. And as it started to play out, I jumped

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into action, organized the very first team to

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publish a protocol to avoid two bad outcomes,

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hospitalization and death. This is very important.

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There are two bad outcomes. So if we got the

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illness, and I fully expected everybody to get

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COVID. So wearing masks or lockdowns, that was

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all useless because we are all going to get it.

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What was important is to get through the illness

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and get natural immunity. So we had to use multiple

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drugs in combination where there were signals

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of benefit, acceptable safety. And our first

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consortium involved Yale University, Emory, UCLA,

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Baylor. And we published it in the American Journal

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of Medicine. And it's now been copyrighted, the

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McCulloch Protocol, the most widely used approach

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to prevent hospitalization and death with COVID

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-19. So it was clearly a capstone for my clinical

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investigative career. Now, what can you tell

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us about the COVID -19 virus? There's been so

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much disinformation, so much propaganda. We really

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need to have the truth. All of us need the truth.

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And I would really like to know from you what

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you've learned. five years later. It's now all

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in the record the U .S. House of Representatives

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subcommittee for the investigations on the coronavirus

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origin led by Representative Brad One -Strip.

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It's now known and all the U .S. intelligence

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agencies agree the virus the coronavirus SARS

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-CoV -2 was engineered and created in the Wuhan

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Institute of Virology. So it was artificially

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engineered to be more infectious, more lethal,

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and now we know the little spine on the surface

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of the virus, that was the engineered protein

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called the spike protein. That doesn't leave

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the human body. It causes tremendous damage to

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internal organs, causes blood clots. So this

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was an enormously harmful infection that's had

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lasting effects. And there are those who are

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clearly culpable and named in the house. Committee

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investigations include Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr.

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Ralph Barak at the University of North Carolina

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Chapel Hill, who's the engineer of the virus,

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Peter Dasik, who had many, many flights to Wuhan

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and led a fraudulent investigation of the lab

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once it had gotten out, and then Dr. Xingling

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Li, who's the Bat Lady in Wuhan. They all worked

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to cover up the origins of SARS -CoV -2 for greater

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than a year. This has come out now. And so many

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are now in pursuit of Fauci, who was the most

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senior doctor involved, including Senator Rand

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Paul, who I met with privately in his chambers

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in the last month. And Paul believes that there

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is a very strong case now. It's all laid out

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in his book called Deception, a great book to

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read, that indeed Fauci should be prosecuted.

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got the reports, as you're pointing out, to tell

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us how it was engineered. Do we have any evidence

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or any information that's helping us understand

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why, what the motive was in engineering such

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a deadly virus? We're told that the U .S. government

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and governments all over the world are involved

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with biolabs. This is very important. Biolabs

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to create pathogens of dual purpose potential.

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and this is now memorialized in 2024 legislation

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put out by the Biden administration in the United

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States. What we mean by this is to develop a

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lethal virus, like the COVID virus, and then

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come up with a vaccine or a therapeutic or another

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countermeasure at the same time. So there's dual

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purposes. One, to get the world sick, and two,

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try to protect the world from additional damage.

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It's a very, very dangerous line of research.

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There's over a dozen. biolabs in the United States,

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the one closest to me is in Galveston, Texas.

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They're dealing with organisms that are every

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bit as dangerous as those that came out of the

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Wuhan Institute of Virology. So I encourage everybody

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listening to do an inquiry with respect to are

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there biolabs in your city or your state or your

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province and what you can do about it because

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we've published at the McCullough Foundation

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on our Substack Focal Points. that there are

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hundreds of leaks. These biolabs are far from

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safe, they're not tightly regulated, and the

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research is dangerous. Does your research provide

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information as to where the biolabs are? Yeah,

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everybody should go to Substack and look up focal

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points on Subscribe. It's free and it comes out

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every morning. You'll get an update every morning.

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We've published widely on this that, indeed,

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each one of these biolabs are worldwide and where

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the leaks are occurring. Fascinating information

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and it sounds to me and this is conjecture and

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I'm way removed from any of the research and

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it sounds to me like the motivation is nothing

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but profit. It's highly profitable both creation

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of these deadly viruses and creation of vaccines

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and therapeutics and think about the political

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and geopolitical power that one would hold whether

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it's a government or a third party to have something

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that can get the whole world sick in one hand.

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and then have a remedy in the other hand. And

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that's exactly what they were doing in the Wuhan

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Institute of Virology. Dr. Ralph Barak published

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work from that lab on primordial SARS -CoV -2

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in 2015 in Nature Medicine and in 2016 in the

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proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

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It's all laid out there that this is what's called

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gain -of -function research. a virus out of nature

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engineered to make it more lethal and more deadly

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to human beings and then come up with an answer.

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In the very first papers, they were trying to

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come up with a vaccine as the same time they

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were trying to create this monster virus. Dr.

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McCullough, it occurs to me right off the top

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of my head. Doesn't that kind of gain -of -function

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research go against the oath that doctors are

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supposed to take? Doctors are supposed to take

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and do take an oath called the Hippocratic Oath.

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It means do no harm. It means we should do no

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harm in our clinical practice, but we should

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also do no harm in our research endeavors. And

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you make a very good point. that this research

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is designed to do harm. It's creating a biological

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threat. And in fact, government agencies all

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over the world are in the business of doing this.

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We have two in the United States. One is called

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BARDA. It's a division of the National Institutes

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of Health, B -A -R -D -A. And the other one is

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DARPA, D -A -R -P -A, a division of the military.

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They are working to design biological threats

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that could hurt other human beings. I definitely

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want to get into the very personal aspect of

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COVID -19 and what people need to do who have

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actually either contracted the disease or taken

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what they call a vaccine. But before we get to

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that, is there anything underway presently to

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try to stop this kind of gain of function research?

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Obviously, it's to bring harm to humanity. In

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the summer of 2024, the Biden administration

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put out very, very lax guidelines for self -reporting.

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There was nothing that provided any safety to

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the population. Now, the Trump administration

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has come in and recognized this as dangerous,

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and they've removed funding, federal funding

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for this type of research, but that's not enough

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because this research can be funded by adversaries,

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like to the United States, like the Chinese Communist

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Party. In fact, it's being done. as well as by

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foundations, including the Gates Foundation,

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the Rockefeller Trust, the Wellcome Trust. It

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can be done by third party organizations, many

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of them trying to develop vaccines. So in fact,

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you know, removing government funding has not

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made certainly the U .S. population safer. The

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entire research endeavor needs to be shut down.

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Yes. And as you mentioned, this is a global issue.

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So this is something that's been allowed to grow

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and become a monster over a long period of time.

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It's going to take a while to really rein it

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in. I want to talk, if we could now, about the

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CDC and their whole management of the COVID -19

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virus. And I know that's a big topic, but maybe

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you can take us down a path to help us understand

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about the pathogens and the different things

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that are in the so -called vaccines. The CDC

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has been an embarrassment for the United States.

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I mean, think about this, 12 ,000 employees,

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a $9 billion budget. They didn't take care of

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a single patient. They don't operate a clinic.

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They don't operate a hospital. They help with

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others, provide some in vitro diagnostic research.

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They do publish some of their own papers in their

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own medical journal, MMWR. But they largely,

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you know, provide advice to doctors. Doctors

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like myself were the ones carrying the load and

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we certainly have fiduciary responsibility. I

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just can't believe 12 ,000 employees, nine billion

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dollars, they didn't provide a single suggestion

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to anybody to help them avoid hospitalization

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and death. So they should have immediately gotten

00:26:49.299 --> 00:26:52.359
behind very effective nasal sprays and gargles.

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And all of them work from dilute iodine, xylitol

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-based, colloidal silver, saline. No, not a single

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mention from the CDC anywhere about using twice

00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.059
daily nasal sprays and gargles. A randomized

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trial by Boundforth and colleagues using a xylitol

00:27:08.740 --> 00:27:11.079
-based spray, and that's available in the United

00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:13.539
States and Canada in the product called CLEAR,

00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:17.700
X -L -E -A -R, that nasal spray done twice a

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day was better than a vaccine in preventing COVID.

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And it's shocking. that our CDC made blunder

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after blunder after blunder. I'm actually surprised

00:27:29.329 --> 00:27:31.089
at a lot of what you're sharing right now. I'm

00:27:31.089 --> 00:27:33.950
positive my audience members are too. One of

00:27:33.950 --> 00:27:38.309
the things I did learn, which I thought was ludicrous,

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I just I couldn't believe it, there was the use

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of remdesivir and there was the lack of ability

00:27:44.769 --> 00:27:47.269
for people to actually take hydroxychloroquine

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or ivermectin. Can you shed any light on all

00:27:50.230 --> 00:27:53.579
of that, those protocols? You know, from outpatient,

00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:55.259
you know, the very first thing we should do is

00:27:55.259 --> 00:27:57.660
use nasal sprays and gargles twice a day, all

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the way to inpatient care. The CDC was willfully

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blind to the advancements that we made. In the

00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:06.559
outpatient realm, the McCulloch protocol, which

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was fully endorsed by the Association of American

00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:12.880
Physicians and Surgeons and widely used across

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the globe, was completely ignored by the CDC.

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In fact, All the drugs we use in the protocol

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should have been continued in the hospital. The

00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:23.690
process is called medication reconciliation.

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It's done for all other problems. So we used,

00:28:26.730 --> 00:28:28.609
in addition to the nasal sprays and gargles,

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which actually were used in one inpatient study,

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and they're enormously successful in the hospital.

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Hospitals never provided them. We utilized nutraceuticals

00:28:37.869 --> 00:28:41.690
like vitamin D, vitamin C, curcetin. over -the

00:28:41.690 --> 00:28:44.549
-counter famotidine, a combined antihistamine

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agent. These were widely used and effective.

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Aspirin should have been given to everybody because

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of the blood clotting from the spike protein.

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Then we got into the antivirals. The first year,

00:28:54.829 --> 00:28:57.410
we used hydroxychloroquine. We didn't have any

00:28:57.410 --> 00:29:00.250
other antivirals, certainly provided by any government.

00:29:00.450 --> 00:29:03.309
The second year, we widely used ivermectin. By

00:29:03.309 --> 00:29:06.279
the third year, Paxlovid came in. In addition,

00:29:06.500 --> 00:29:09.099
we widely use the monoclonal antibodies. There

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are six of them. They're very effective. But

00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.039
hospitals didn't use them. So hospitals should

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have given every single American a monoclonal

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antibody before they came in the hospital. And

00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.579
now, when all the dust settles, we find that

00:29:21.579 --> 00:29:23.880
they only gave it to 15%. Now, those who got

00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:25.980
the monoclonal antibodies, the first one was

00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:29.940
Bamalifamab by Lilly, they survived. The patients

00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:33.900
denied monoclonal antibodies died. But in addition,

00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.599
patients in the hospital should have gotten colchicine,

00:29:37.059 --> 00:29:39.259
corticosteroids. I think the best one used was

00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:41.980
prednisone, far better than dexamethasone. And

00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:45.339
then of course, blood thinners, including lovinox

00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:48.220
and the oral blood thinners. But instead, as

00:29:48.220 --> 00:29:51.660
you point out, what people got is remdesivir.

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Remdesivir is a very poorly effective antiviral

00:29:56.140 --> 00:29:58.890
drug. And the only study that actually ever showed

00:29:58.890 --> 00:30:01.430
it did anything in COVID, it was given very early.

00:30:01.509 --> 00:30:03.369
First off, there's Gottlieb and colleagues. I

00:30:03.369 --> 00:30:05.630
know, because he's one of my colleagues at Baylor

00:30:05.630 --> 00:30:08.710
in Dallas. And if it's given as an outpatient

00:30:08.710 --> 00:30:11.170
infusion early on, it did have some modest effect.

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But in the hospital, remdesivir was a gross failure.

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And by November of 2020, the World Health Organization

00:30:19.230 --> 00:30:22.190
put out a warning on its website and said, do

00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:24.690
not use remdesivir in the hospital. It's not

00:30:24.690 --> 00:30:28.470
working. That's in November of 2020, worldwide.

00:30:29.109 --> 00:30:31.650
And European Society of Critical Care, they had

00:30:31.650 --> 00:30:35.269
a meeting, they agreed. And many countries like

00:30:35.269 --> 00:30:38.309
the United States ignored the WHO statement because

00:30:38.309 --> 00:30:40.670
remdesivir has side effects, including kidney

00:30:40.670 --> 00:30:45.829
and liver damage. And in May of 2022, in Lancet,

00:30:46.170 --> 00:30:49.630
the WHO Solidarity Research Group reevaluated

00:30:49.789 --> 00:30:52.650
their position on remdesivir. They looked at

00:30:52.650 --> 00:30:54.690
all the additional studies of remdesivir, and

00:30:54.690 --> 00:30:56.609
they concluded, they were right from the beginning,

00:30:57.069 --> 00:30:59.869
remdesivir never should have been used. And do

00:30:59.869 --> 00:31:02.750
you know that not a single state in the United

00:31:02.750 --> 00:31:05.569
States, Health and Human Services, or the U .S.

00:31:05.630 --> 00:31:08.549
CDC, FDA, or the National Institutes of Health,

00:31:08.650 --> 00:31:10.549
or the Infectious Disease Society of America,

00:31:11.029 --> 00:31:16.220
none of them have reevaluated remdesivir. None

00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:19.400
of them have even recognized the WHO statement

00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.920
on Remdesivir. Dr. McCullough, would you be able

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:31.099
to provide any conjecture on why? As you'll hear

00:31:31.099 --> 00:31:33.660
next week, Dr. McCullough provides courageous

00:31:33.660 --> 00:31:36.980
explanation and then moves into helping us know

00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:40.200
what we can and must do to protect ourselves

00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.859
and our loved ones. In this first part of the

00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:44.779
interview, however, Dr. McCullough mentioned

00:31:44.779 --> 00:31:48.059
Senator Rand Paul and referenced his book. I

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have a link to the book through my Amazon affiliate

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several versions and a great price on the hardcover

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version. Regarding the nasal spray Dr. McCullough

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own product from the wellness company, the Ultimate

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Spike Protein Detox is also listed in the show

00:32:18.779 --> 00:32:21.710
notes. Also listed in the show notes is the link

00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:24.130
to a Substack site where you can learn about

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the location of Biolabs and so much more. There

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Use the search feature on the Substack page and

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write Biolab locations to pull up all the articles

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on that topic. God has been forewarning us through

00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:50.200
trusted prophets of these sinister plans against

00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.460
us and stressing the importance of us using our

00:32:53.460 --> 00:32:56.839
spiritual weapons to tear down the strongholds

00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.900
and destroy the plans of the enemy. And God has

00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:04.680
assured us we can win these battles if we do

00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.960
as he instructs. And with the brave work of people

00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.319
like Dr. McCullough, we have made considerable

00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.259
strides to prevent the globalists from enslaving

00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:16.339
us. Next week I'll have Dr. McCullough back on

00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:18.960
to make certain we are properly equipped with

00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.299
the truth. If you need a good shot of hope and

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encouragement, plan on joining me next week for

00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.319
more Faith to Live By. Now I ask you to please

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listen to my closing announcements and to take

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us to be able to meet up in Greece. It may seem

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far off, but most people make plans for a significant

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have in mind. We'll be walking the footsteps

00:34:13.349 --> 00:34:16.030
of the Apostle Paul. I'm using the time between

00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:19.750
now and October 2025 to determine if we have

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enough interest and the trend indicates we definitely

00:34:22.710 --> 00:34:25.150
should. We have just about 30 people on the list

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now but I'd like to have more because when it

00:34:27.710 --> 00:34:29.769
comes to the actual day of making a commitment

00:34:29.769 --> 00:34:32.269
things could have changed and I want to be able

00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:34.650
to have at least 30 actually attend the tour.

00:34:34.969 --> 00:34:37.010
So, if you think you'd like to be part of the

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Fakes Lived By Christian Tour with me in Greece

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