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Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith

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to Live By. I'm Pam Christian, your host of this

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weekly podcast, where each week I seek to help

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us explore current events from a biblical and

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prophetic perspective. For the past couple of

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weeks, we've been exploring how governments of

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the world are imposing various restrictions on

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their citizens for all types of basic living

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activities, including employment, shopping, and

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travel. My guest again today is Twyla Brays helping

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us understand how the Real ID Act in the United

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States runs a parallel with the restrictions

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many other nations are imposing on their citizens

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and how all such requirements are efforts to

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extinguish any and all personal freedoms and

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liberties to enslave the people of the world

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under a single totalitarian oligarchy. Not sure

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if what I just said is true? Then sticking around

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to listen to this entire podcast is even more

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important for you to make certain you are not

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deceived. No one wants to be deceived. Yet, as

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I've often said, unless we intentionally examine

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what we believe and why we believe as we do,

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we can easily be deceived and not realize we

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are. After all, it is the very nature of deception

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that the victim is unaware. I know my audience

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is well informed and able to recognize such restrictions

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as the Real ID Act have been systematically implemented

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to incrementally bring all the people of the

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world under the control of a one -world government.

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This is all part of the long -term goals that

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the self -anointed oligarchs have been working

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for decades upon decades to enslave the people

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of the world under what they call the Great Reset

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to establish their multinational entity for a

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one -world government. If you don't believe that

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there has been such a group effort to extinguish

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your personal, God -given freedoms, then you

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are among those who have been utterly deceived

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by their highly orchestrated manipulation tactics.

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If you still trust your government, regardless

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of what nation you reside, you have become prey

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to their agenda. Mill Kay was my guest not too

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long ago who perhaps more succinctly than most

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is able to articulate the reality of the world's

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condition with the explanation of how we got

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to the point we are, which is exceedingly dangerously

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close to being conquered by evil. Evil working

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through power -hungry and greedy men and women

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who believe they are in a position to act as

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God over all humanity. Mel Kay wrote in her book

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titled Americans Anonymous Restoring Power to

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the People One Citizen at a Time, quote, We are

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in the battle of our lifetime and possibly an

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epic battle unlike anything we have seen in the

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past. With the specter of global totalitarianism

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looming, not one nation or principality, but

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the entire world is at stake. As I say all the

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time, they are not after the United States. They

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are after conquering and capturing the world,

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and the United States is in the way. Once they

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defeat and destroy our nation from within and

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from without, they can easily take the rest of

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the world. That is why we must stand in our power,

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remain firm in our commitment to truth, be fearless

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and brave, refuse to comply and neither capitulate

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nor allow one more inch of infringement on our

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sovereignty or freedom." The time for us to stand

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strong against the evils in this world is now

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more than ever. God has prophetically promised

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he has been exposing all manner of evil wherever

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it exists so his children that is all Christ

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believers worldwide can unite in prayer using

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our spiritual weapons of warfare to defeat the

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enemy there is no power and authority the enemy

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fears more than that of Christ at work in and

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through his people As God's people in this world

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have become more aware of the extent of evil,

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we are uniting in our assignment to call and

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tear down evil. The enemy's plans have been being

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torn down over the past five years and knowing

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they are very close to losing every goal they

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have ever worked for over the past 100 years,

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the enemy is using what limited abilities he

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has left to work all manner of havoc, all over

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the world all at the same time. Hearing reports

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this past week of what is going on in all the

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countries of the world at the very same time

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is in the natural entirely overwhelming. This

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is why we must remain engaged in our spiritual

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reality so we will indeed realize the victory

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over evil Christ has already died to provide

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us. God's promises are certain and we must remain

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focused to get us through what is certain to

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be the most turbulent times the world has ever

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seen now and going through into early next year.

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This very real spiritual war between good and

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evil is the very reason I started this podcast

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in July of 2020 to help all of us learn the truth

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to no longer be deceived and fight for our God

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-given rights not just for those here in the

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United States but for all the people of the world.

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There is one being that has always sought to

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overthrow God and assume control over all humanity

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and that being is known as Satan. Even if you

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have not yet come to believe in God and Satan,

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who are the entities behind all good and evil

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in this world, the existence for which is best

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described according to the Christian faith in

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contrast to all other world religions and philosophies.

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But even if you haven't come to believe that,

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you must admit at the very least all human beings

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have been subject to a global battle of good

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versus evil. Our choice then is to decide which

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side of the battle we want to be aligned with,

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good or bad. There is no middle ground. If you

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are not intentionally aligned with all that is

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good, by default you are aligned with all that

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is evil. If you are not willing to put the effort

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in to fight against evil for the promotion of

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all that is good, then you are the same as an

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intentional enemy against good. In the words

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of Mel K, quote, the totalitarian blog behind

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the Great Reset and the public -private partnership

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stakeholders, along with their United Nations

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and World Economic Forum tentacles and the International

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Banking Cartel have invested everything in their

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Agenda 2030 and their 17 Sustainable Development

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Goals of total power, control, surveillance,

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and slavery system will not be defeated without

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our full commitment to our freedom and future

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against them." Being armed with truth is our

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first order of business and this is exactly what

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I seek to help us become each and every week

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with this podcast. Because our best opportunity

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for victory over these tyrannical oligarchs is

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to have the vast majority of people of the world

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armed with truth, I suggest your role to this

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end is to share this podcast with as many people

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as you can far and wide. Citizens of America

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need to hear today's podcast about the Real ID

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Act and learn what we must do to resist it. Similarly,

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citizens of all other nations need to hear this

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podcast and consider it in light of the many

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restrictions and requirements imposed on them

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by their governments. Because of the significant

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advancement of evil in our day, all of us must

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become intentional about our existence, our alignments,

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and affiliations, and much more fully and properly

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aware of the impact sinister forces are having

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upon us, our lives, our families, our societies,

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our culture, values, and ethics, and we must

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be willfully engaged in the fight against evil.

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We must take responsibility for the fact that

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evil has advanced to the state it has because

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too many of us have been apathetic and complacent

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and generally disengaged in society, abdicating

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our civic responsibilities to others who do not

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have our best interest at heart. The Real ID

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Act, in part, impacts our ability for air travel.

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Something I certainly don't want to be a problem

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for us who plan on being part of my Christian

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ground tour of Greece in April 2026. And if you've

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been thinking about being part of this trip I

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want to be sure you know how to get your name

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on the reservation list. We want to get a group

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of about 30 people signed up because this size

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group is best for this type tour. And the more

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people who sign up the less the trip costs each

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one of us. Some who have previously signed up

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have had to let me know that their plans have

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changed, which means we have more spots available

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now which we want to fill up. At this point it's

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just a matter of putting your name on the reservation

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list with your final confirmation in the next

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month or so. I'll explain more about this process

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of placing your name on the reservation list

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later in the podcast. But now let me share my

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interview with Twyla Braze on the truth about

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the existence of the Real ID Act to help you

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know what you must do to protect yourself. and

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your loved ones. I want to move now on to how

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this whole HIPAA awareness allowed you to become

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aware of the deception with what's known as the

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real ID in the United States. Let's talk about

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that now. Yeah, so I think real ID is in the

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news because the government is saying you can't

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fly without it, that sort of thing. That's a

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lie. I'll just start out right here. You can't

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fly is a lie. But I think the history of it is

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beneficial for people to understand and why we

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are where we are now, because this law for the

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real ID passed in 2005. It passed through the

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US Senate without a single hearing. It was just

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tacked onto a must -have defense spending bill

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and they never had a hearing, they never had

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a vote, they had nothing. It just appeared for

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the final vote on the defense spending bill.

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So it was put in there without proper vetting

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and without proper time for the American public

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to even understand what was happening. So that

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too was a bit of a deception. And what the law

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says is it's essentially telling the states that

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they need to change their driver's licensing

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system to now create a federal ID. So the real

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ID is not a state driver's license. It's not

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a state ID. It's not a state ID that simply or

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a state driver's license that simply has a star

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on it. It is a federal ID, a federal identification

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card for a national surveillance system. Well,

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when the states figure this out in 2007, 2008

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and 2009, they passed bills. A lot of states

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passed bills saying we are not going to do this

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because this violates our rights. This is an

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unfunded mandate. It's going to be extraordinarily

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expensive and it violates privacy rights because

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it's becoming a federal ID. And it's not just

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for flying. So you have to understand what the

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law says. The law says that under the definition

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section, there's a definition of official purposes.

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And so this is the official purposes for the

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Real ID. And so it says that the official purposes

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for the Real ID are for access to federal facilities,

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access to nuclear facilities, access to commercial

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flight. And then it adds these words, and for

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any other purposes that the secretary shall determine.

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So this is not limited to flight or federal buildings

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and nuclear facilities. Nope, the secretary all

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by him or herself without going back to Congress

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or back to the president. could decide things

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like, well, you need a real ID to buy a gun.

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You need a real ID to access medical care. You

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need a real ID to get married, to go to college,

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to rent a car, to rent a hotel room, to open

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a bank account. You know, this is what's happening

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with national IDs around the globe. These are

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the kind of things that they cannot do without

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their national ID. What's being created here

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is not only a federal ID, but a national. ID

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and this of course, you know We are a country

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of 50 states who limited the federal government

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into what they could do and put that into the

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Constitution and all the other rights in the

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Tenth Amendment It says all the other rights

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are accorded to the states and to the individuals

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Well, this is the federal government commandeering

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the states Getting them to pass laws to say We

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will conform with real ID. We will do whatever

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the federal government wants us to do. We will

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print federal ID cards. We will agree to not

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call them federal IDs. We will still have them

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look like a state ID. Essentially, the federal

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government hijacked the DMVs and the DMVs played

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along with it. And so now the American public

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thinks that what they have are state driver's

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licenses with a star. So, you know, in 2007,

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2008, 2009, all these states, you know, said

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no. And Real ID got stuck. And it got stuck for

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about nine years. And then President Obama, at

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the end of 2015, shouted from the rooftops that

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you will not be able to fly in 2016 if you don't

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have a Real ID. Well, this was the first time

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that the major media probably even knew this.

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Anyway, they picked up on it, they heralded it

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everywhere, and now you had constituents of state

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legislators contacting them and saying, fix this.

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I have summer homes, I have winter homes, I've

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got children, I've got grandchildren, I've got

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places to go, I've got vacations to take, I need

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to fly. So everybody just believed President

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Obama, and state legislators, nine years later,

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they just gave up. They gave up states' rights.

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They gave up individual rights. They gave up

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privacy rights. They didn't stand up like the

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legislators in 2007, 2008, and 2009. And so now

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here we are. So that was 2016 where 2016, 2017,

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and 2018 states all moved to conform with the

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federal government. They bowed to their constituents

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without telling their constituents that they

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were giving up their constitutional rights. And

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so now you have all the states who have agreed

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to conform with the Real ID Act, agreed to issue

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federal IDs under federal control. But COVID

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interrupted that a bit. They essentially pushed

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back deadlines. There's been probably about six

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or seven deadlines in total because people were

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just not getting the real ID and legislators

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were saying no to the real ID and states weren't

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ready to issue real IDs and they didn't have

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enough money for the new equipment. You know,

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thing after thing after thing caused delay. So

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now here is where we are. They said that on May

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7th of this year was the deadline to have a real

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ID or you wouldn't be able to fly. And that has

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always been a lie. So first and foremost, the

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TSA has 16 different identification cards that

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you can use to fly. Or maybe even before that,

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what you need to know is there's no law anywhere

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that says you need any kind of ID to fly. This

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is just something the FAA came up with, but it's

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not backed by a law. FAA is a regulatory agency.

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It's not. legislators. There's no law requiring

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you to have an ID. But everybody has, you know,

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followed this. But above and beyond that, now

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we have this law that says you need a real ID

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for for flight. And I don't actually even think

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that the law has said or any real ID compatible

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other ID. But the TSA has chosen to have 16 different

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IDs. And of course, your passport will always

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work for flight, because it's going to work for

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flight over the globe. So it's always been a

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lie. And it's a lie that is meant to convince

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you to go and give up your constitutional rights

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and get this federal ID. Now, your listeners

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are probably thinking, well, so what? It's a

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card with a star. What's the big idea? Is this

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really? worth it fighting over? The DMV has testified

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to Congress, December 5th, 2023, of their plans

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to digitize the ID, put it on our phones, and

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have remote access, real -time remote access

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to our phones. Now, just imagine if they think

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you've done something wrong and they just turn

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it off. Turn it off. What are you going to do?

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Where are you going to go? How are you going

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to buy anything? So what we're really looking

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at here is the creation of a foundation for the

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American version of the Chinese social credit

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system. And so that this ID becomes a digital

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tracker, a digital controller. It'll control

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whether you get access, whether it'll monitor

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every transaction that you have. A digital ID

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pings the government, the DMV, every time you

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use it. They'll know where you're at. They might

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know what you're buying. It depends on, you know,

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what comes back at them. But it can be, you know,

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what is that word when you triangulate, right?

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You can triangulate, you know, and who else is

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standing next to you? Who are you talking to?

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You know, and they use their card too. So the

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two of you are going to a concert together. The

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two of you just bought fishing equipment. You

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know, whatever it is, they can have that information.

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So this is really, you know, oh, and then it's

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biometrically controlled. I didn't even mention

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that. So the federal law and the rule require

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a biometric, starting with your face. And you

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should be incensed about this. This is a Fourth

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Amendment violation, because what they have done

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is they have claimed a right to collect and catalog

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the coordinates of your body for their control.

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They are going to make your body your identifier.

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Something that can never be changed, but something

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that can be faked and hacked and used to digitally

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impersonate you. But you, unlike a social security

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number, you can't change your body parts. You

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can't change your face. You can't change your

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thumb. You can't change your poem. You can't

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change your gait. You can't change your eyes,

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except by, you know, like major surgery, right?

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This is a complete violation. The government

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has claimed this and they're hoping we just don't

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notice. And so many people don't notice because

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they're going to the airport and when the TSA

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at the checkpoint says, stand in front of that,

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give me your ID and stand in front of that camera,

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they're just doing it. They don't realize, I

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believe this is what's happening. They're not

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only being desensitized to let the government

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claim their body as their identifier. They're

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also, I believe, I believe that this is training

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their machines. They're artificial intelligence

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machines. So when you hand them the ID, which

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you took a picture in, who knows what clothes

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looking, who knows how that day, right? Now they've

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got a new picture of you. Now they've got new

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hair shadows on men. They've got you in a hat.

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They've got you in this. They've got you in that.

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And they say that they're getting rid of the

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picture, right? But are they getting rid of the

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data? Are they getting rid of the digital, you

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know, bytes that are coming in about different

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pieces of you? I think they're training the machines

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to be able to see you better in a crowd than

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just, you know, using the picture on your ID.

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So you have to understand this is so big. This

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is so big. It should not be coming out of the

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Trump administration. Kristi Noem, Secretary

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of Homeland Security, she's lying. She lied on

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April 11th when she said, if you come without

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a real ID, you won't be able to travel. That's

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what she said on April 11th. The deadline was

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May 7th. On May 6th, she stood before Congress

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and they said, so people without real ID won't

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be able to fly. She said, oh, no, no, no, no,

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no, no. If they come with the regular ID, there'll

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just be a few more security steps and then we'll,

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we'll make sure that they meet their travel itinerary.

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That's what she said. And then the very next

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day, on the so -called deadline. She put on Instagram

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that said, today, in all caps, if you do not

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come with your real ID, you will not be able

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to fly. So she said one thing to Congress on

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May 6, and she said another thing to the world

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on May 7. So she is putting everybody into this

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violation of constitutional rights, this national

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federal identification system that could be hooked

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up with a global ID system, could become a VAX

00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:28.579
passport, could become a national patient ID

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linking all of your medical records together,

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could become so many things. All right, now I'm

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going to ask you for conjecture. The question

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is, do you believe that Kristi Noem is part of

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a larger effort to actually continue to deceive

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the American people for tracking and surveillance?

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I don't know that question. What her intentions

00:22:53.059 --> 00:22:56.599
or mindset is, I have no idea. But the fact of

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the matter is, if you were a real conservative,

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you would not be working to get people into an

00:23:02.660 --> 00:23:06.339
unconstitutional national identification system

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that when you are out of your position and when

00:23:09.180 --> 00:23:11.319
Trump is out of office and when someone like

00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.180
Gavin Newsom comes in, A system that he would

00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:19.500
use to keep you in his 15 minute cities. A system

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that he would use to make sure that you paid

00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.059
taxes for all your carbon use. Now we can see

00:23:24.059 --> 00:23:27.039
how far you travel and where you go and we can

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see all the miles. We can just categorize them

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because we've got it all digital now. If you

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were a real conservative you wouldn't do that.

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So we may not actually know the answer but there's

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enough other evidence through these years that

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we can make some pretty accurate conjecture.

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And I'm in agreement with you. You know, we may

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be somewhat protected while President Trump is

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in office, but what about the future? With that

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in mind, is your organization, because you're

00:23:52.339 --> 00:23:54.660
specific for health freedom, is your organization

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helping people fight against this real ID and

00:23:57.660 --> 00:24:01.160
the claims that they are making of what we can

00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:04.519
and cannot do so that we can fight back and maintain

00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.599
our freedoms? Because as you said, this is unconstitutional.

00:24:07.660 --> 00:24:10.859
It violates our rights as American citizens.

00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.089
There's got to be... some pushback that we can

00:24:13.089 --> 00:24:18.119
do. Yeah I think it was um Brent Weinstein who

00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:20.460
called it the possibility that we'd be going

00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:23.819
to some sort of totalitarian system because that's

00:24:23.819 --> 00:24:25.720
what it sets up. That's what's happening with

00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:28.980
it in China. Why would we do it in the United

00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:31.880
States? So our organization is leading the charge.

00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:33.799
I realize we're a health freedom organization

00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.960
but we also know that this will lead to no card

00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:39.180
no care. We know that it will be the VAX passport.

00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:41.740
We believe it will be connected globally and

00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:43.900
it will be used to share all sorts of information

00:24:43.900 --> 00:24:48.079
about each and every one of us. And we are also

00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.660
very concerned that the way that they would force

00:24:50.660 --> 00:24:53.940
everybody into a Real ID is they would say as

00:24:53.940 --> 00:24:57.160
the very next official purpose of the Real ID

00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:59.980
would be access to medical care. Not everybody

00:24:59.980 --> 00:25:03.759
has to fly, but everybody needs a doctor. So

00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:06.119
yes, as a health policy organization, we are

00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.299
very involved. We are leading the charge across

00:25:08.299 --> 00:25:11.500
the country. We have all sorts of documents on

00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:16.019
our RefuseRealID .org web page. It's a very special

00:25:16.019 --> 00:25:18.980
page. Documents to help you say no, documents

00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:22.660
to help you turn in your real ID. All sorts of

00:25:22.660 --> 00:25:24.660
people in all sorts of states around the country

00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:27.299
are having success. Some of them are not, and

00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:29.559
they're letting us know. And so if your listeners

00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:33.970
are making those kinds of efforts to switch back.

00:25:34.309 --> 00:25:36.549
Do not wait for your renewal period. Do it right

00:25:36.549 --> 00:25:41.349
now. The DMVs have gone rogue before. All right,

00:25:41.349 --> 00:25:42.869
let's talk about that because that was one of

00:25:42.869 --> 00:25:44.450
the things I also wanted to bring up. You were

00:25:44.450 --> 00:25:46.789
just ahead of me. It's wonderful. But there are

00:25:46.789 --> 00:25:49.970
options in many states where we can, if we've

00:25:49.970 --> 00:25:52.410
already accepted the real ID, we can go back

00:25:52.410 --> 00:25:54.630
to the Department of Motor Vehicles and ask for

00:25:54.630 --> 00:25:58.670
a standard state ID, correct? Standard state

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:02.089
ID or a standard state driver's license? So there

00:26:02.089 --> 00:26:06.049
are 45 states that do not require the Real ID.

00:26:06.450 --> 00:26:09.609
Only five states do, and that's Texas, Wyoming,

00:26:10.170 --> 00:26:13.509
Georgia, Mississippi, and Florida. Did I list

00:26:13.509 --> 00:26:17.769
them all? Anyway, so those five states... don't

00:26:17.769 --> 00:26:20.609
give you any option whatsoever. But there are

00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:23.069
other states that don't give you an option once

00:26:23.069 --> 00:26:25.490
you've made the switch. And we've been finding

00:26:25.490 --> 00:26:27.750
that out because of what people are telling us.

00:26:27.809 --> 00:26:30.930
And we're not sure if it is that the state doesn't

00:26:30.930 --> 00:26:34.809
allow it or the individual DMVs don't allow it.

00:26:34.809 --> 00:26:37.230
And you could maybe go to a different DMV and

00:26:37.230 --> 00:26:39.250
make a switch. We're not we're not sure about

00:26:39.250 --> 00:26:42.490
that yet. We know that from somebody and several

00:26:42.490 --> 00:26:44.769
people in California. They they called it easy

00:26:44.769 --> 00:26:47.289
peasy They just went to made the switch somebody

00:26:47.289 --> 00:26:50.009
somewhere else the DMV agent said I will I you

00:26:50.009 --> 00:26:53.049
know, I don't want to be nosy But why don't you

00:26:53.049 --> 00:26:55.650
want this car? Why do you want a state driver's

00:26:55.650 --> 00:26:58.470
license? And she just kind of demurred, right?

00:26:58.529 --> 00:27:00.690
She just didn't give a lot of information the

00:27:00.690 --> 00:27:03.130
person who was making the switch So the agent

00:27:03.130 --> 00:27:05.250
said so is it that you don't want to federal

00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:08.470
ID? So that was interesting, right? So the DMVs

00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:12.250
know that this is a federal ID. And so, you know,

00:27:12.250 --> 00:27:14.430
it'll be up to your listeners wherever they are

00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:16.890
to figure out whether or not their state would

00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:19.210
say no. Minnesota, it's really easy. We fought

00:27:19.210 --> 00:27:22.509
it here for two years. And so everything is really

00:27:22.509 --> 00:27:25.990
easy here to make the switch because if, for

00:27:25.990 --> 00:27:28.250
example, in Minnesota, we have a law so strong

00:27:28.250 --> 00:27:31.029
that if Kristi Noem would say for health care

00:27:31.029 --> 00:27:34.289
access, you need a real ID, the law, the real

00:27:34.289 --> 00:27:37.339
ID law in Minnesota that conforms to the federal

00:27:37.339 --> 00:27:43.279
ID, that law goes poof. It's gone. So that entire

00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.599
law is repealed the second that HHS would add

00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.660
something beyond commercial flight to that required

00:27:50.660 --> 00:27:53.460
uses. And that is one thing that we are encouraging

00:27:53.460 --> 00:27:56.410
legislators. There's like legislators in 10 different

00:27:56.410 --> 00:27:58.930
states already and there's I think another two

00:27:58.930 --> 00:28:02.329
who are working on legislation to stop conforming

00:28:02.329 --> 00:28:05.309
or to shut down the real ID in their state or

00:28:05.309 --> 00:28:08.190
to put poison pills in it like that like if you

00:28:08.190 --> 00:28:13.329
add anything else you know we're done so um so

00:28:13.329 --> 00:28:15.950
yeah I encourage people don't wait because those

00:28:15.950 --> 00:28:20.420
DMV agents who went rogue In those nine years,

00:28:20.420 --> 00:28:22.359
remember I said there was basically nine years

00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:24.759
between when the state said no and Obama shouted

00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:29.279
from the rooftops? We discovered that there were

00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.420
a whole bunch of states that even though there

00:28:31.420 --> 00:28:34.259
were laws against it in their state, they were

00:28:34.259 --> 00:28:37.680
taking federal money and moving the state into

00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.480
real ID compliance behind the backs of their

00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.859
governors, behind the backs of their legislators.

00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.460
So if you have three years until you need to

00:28:46.460 --> 00:28:50.670
re -up, don't wait. Get it now. There are 44

00:28:50.670 --> 00:28:54.250
% of all drivers licenses and IDs that are not

00:28:54.250 --> 00:28:58.009
real ID compliant and Homeland Security and TSA

00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:01.630
are desperate to get that number down and we

00:29:01.630 --> 00:29:04.349
are Determined to get that number up. We want

00:29:04.349 --> 00:29:07.069
it to be not just 44 % non -compliant. We wanted

00:29:07.069 --> 00:29:12.619
to be 46 48, 50, 52. We want to change the trajectory

00:29:12.619 --> 00:29:15.240
and we need the American people to work with

00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.500
us to make this happen. So go to RefuseRealID

00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:22.940
.org and there's even one page it's red on the

00:29:22.940 --> 00:29:26.319
top and it says lose your real ID. Lose your

00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.099
real ID and it gives you all the instructions

00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:30.420
but usually it's just as simple as going in there

00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:32.660
and saying I don't want this real ID anymore

00:29:32.660 --> 00:29:35.259
I want a state driver's license and it's usually

00:29:35.259 --> 00:29:38.119
that simple. Wow, this has been a wealth of information,

00:29:38.180 --> 00:29:40.500
especially for all of us here in the United States.

00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:43.640
But you did make reference to how a lot of this

00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.539
is a parallel to what's happened in communist

00:29:46.539 --> 00:29:49.839
China, where there is serious tracking and surveillance

00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.180
of people there, so much so that they have a

00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:54.380
social credit score that can impact their bank

00:29:54.380 --> 00:29:56.839
accounts, their spending, their travel, and on

00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.529
it goes. we are on that kind of trajectory here

00:30:00.529 --> 00:30:03.509
in the United States and I'm supposing other

00:30:03.509 --> 00:30:06.490
nations of the world most definitely are on the

00:30:06.490 --> 00:30:09.230
same kind of a trajectory. With that in mind

00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:11.069
they may not have the constitution of the United

00:30:11.069 --> 00:30:13.109
States to protect them but there's got to be

00:30:13.109 --> 00:30:15.869
other things that people around the world can

00:30:15.869 --> 00:30:19.569
do because more and more we are seeing global

00:30:19.569 --> 00:30:22.930
trends to try to take over people around the

00:30:22.930 --> 00:30:25.569
world and enslave us. What do you recommend on

00:30:25.569 --> 00:30:29.720
that big note? Well, on that, you know, there's

00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.799
got to be people just like there are in China,

00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:33.660
right? Just like there were in Hong Kong who

00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:37.460
protested everything. But I think... I think,

00:30:37.460 --> 00:30:40.519
you know, protesting, trying to become part of

00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.960
your own government to start to turn it around,

00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.400
to figure out who are the contractors for these

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.579
countries doing this. Because in America, there's

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:53.240
a contractor called Idemia. And everybody should

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.940
look up Idemia. Idemia sees you. They're the

00:30:56.940 --> 00:30:59.099
ones who are running the cameras at the TSA.

00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.839
They're the ones who are doing the TSA pre -check.

00:31:02.500 --> 00:31:05.690
They've got the the cameras in every port, well

00:31:05.690 --> 00:31:08.130
not every port, but lots of the big ports around

00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:12.009
this nation. And they're doing most of the driver's

00:31:12.009 --> 00:31:15.569
license cards for the states in the United States.

00:31:16.089 --> 00:31:19.369
Are they global as well? They are in France.

00:31:19.809 --> 00:31:22.390
So they're a French company. They used to be

00:31:22.390 --> 00:31:24.890
called MorphoTrust and they're now called IDEMIA.

00:31:25.029 --> 00:31:29.049
I -D -E -M -I -A. Just look them up and see.

00:31:29.049 --> 00:31:31.849
You can see their videos about their cameras.

00:31:31.910 --> 00:31:34.289
They want to see you from about 20 feet back.

00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:37.250
They want to use your face to already put a name

00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:40.349
to who you are. So they show all of this on their

00:31:40.349 --> 00:31:42.470
website, what their plans are, all the different

00:31:42.470 --> 00:31:44.950
companies. countries that they're working with.

00:31:45.450 --> 00:31:49.289
So the whole thing is going up in this direction.

00:31:49.809 --> 00:31:53.250
And there are publications like Biometric Update.

00:31:53.990 --> 00:31:59.150
It's news, it's free, it's online, which tells

00:31:59.150 --> 00:32:02.069
you every day the latest things with national

00:32:02.069 --> 00:32:05.490
ID cards and digital ID cards and the companies

00:32:05.490 --> 00:32:07.289
that are working on them and the countries they're

00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:09.849
being imposed in and all that sort of thing.

00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:15.769
America stands as a beacon of light in this world

00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:19.809
of darkness in so many ways. And we are headed

00:32:19.809 --> 00:32:23.609
down into that world of darkness, which is why

00:32:23.609 --> 00:32:27.750
our organization is bound and determined to turn

00:32:27.750 --> 00:32:30.470
this around. Because I believe that Americans

00:32:30.470 --> 00:32:33.809
want to be in the world of light and freedom.

00:32:34.009 --> 00:32:37.750
And they just think that digital ID is convenient

00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:40.809
and they don't really realize anything about

00:32:40.809 --> 00:32:43.789
the real ID. So they've been duped in so many

00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:46.710
ways. And if they understand the chains that

00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:49.230
are coming around their hands and around their

00:32:49.230 --> 00:32:53.089
homes and around their country through a digital,

00:32:53.789 --> 00:32:58.009
a national and federal digital ID biometric controlled

00:32:58.009 --> 00:33:00.549
system that they can be tracked and they can

00:33:00.549 --> 00:33:03.279
be controlled from anywhere. They are not going

00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.740
to agree to this. So I want to just say thank

00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:09.609
you for having me on to talk about this. Alright,

00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:11.789
now Twyla, we've talked a lot about HIPAA, we've

00:33:11.789 --> 00:33:13.849
talked about Real ID, and that's very specific

00:33:13.849 --> 00:33:16.190
to the United States of America. Now I know that

00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:19.109
as things go in the United States, there is something

00:33:19.109 --> 00:33:21.210
of a forerunner to the rest of the nations in

00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:23.630
the world. And I'm very concerned with what's

00:33:23.630 --> 00:33:26.509
been going on with the globalists, that there

00:33:26.509 --> 00:33:28.470
are many other nations in the world that are

00:33:28.470 --> 00:33:30.650
being subjected to the same kind of tracking

00:33:30.650 --> 00:33:33.190
and surveillance that we're finding ourselves

00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:36.319
experiencing here in the United States. Speaking

00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.079
to my listeners from around the globe, because

00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.299
this is a global podcast, what would you say

00:33:41.299 --> 00:33:43.740
to them that they need to know that this is not

00:33:43.740 --> 00:33:45.519
just isolated to the United States, but they

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.700
could take action in their own respective countries?

00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:51.339
Well, I think that there are always people in

00:33:51.339 --> 00:33:55.019
every country who are lovers of freedom and actually

00:33:55.019 --> 00:33:57.680
I think that they always look to the United States

00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:02.859
to try to get information and advice and ideas

00:34:02.859 --> 00:34:05.779
for what they can do but they have to move in

00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:09.460
their own country and So, you know to tell the

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:12.139
story about how these digital systems can be

00:34:12.139 --> 00:34:15.059
used to control them To see what happened in

00:34:15.059 --> 00:34:17.440
China. Are they looking they have to they have

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.679
to share that but they also should you know try

00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.460
to get a position in government like as a member

00:34:23.460 --> 00:34:26.079
of their ruling party you know who can actually

00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.460
move to to you know get them out of to extract

00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:34.699
them from these kind of programs on digital ID

00:34:34.699 --> 00:34:37.199
they should also look at the companies and they

00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.340
should track these companies like who are these

00:34:39.340 --> 00:34:43.320
companies So in America, it is IDEMIA that is

00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.019
really the one who's doing this all for the government.

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.539
And IDEMIA is spelled I -D -E -M -I -A. And IDEMIA

00:34:51.539 --> 00:34:55.460
is who's running the cameras at TSA PreCheck,

00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.760
who's running the entire identification system

00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.920
at TSA PreCheck. as well as the TSA checkpoints.

00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.199
And they also have ports all around the country

00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.719
that they have cameras in. So they are perfecting

00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.760
their system to know you by your biometrics and

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.880
to know who everybody is and to be watching.

00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:16.739
So I like to say, find out the companies that

00:35:16.739 --> 00:35:20.480
are doing these systems for the countries that

00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:24.099
they're in and then start watching those companies.

00:35:24.579 --> 00:35:28.809
Start sharing with members of the political parties

00:35:28.809 --> 00:35:31.250
or the people who are in power about how this

00:35:31.250 --> 00:35:33.769
is impacting the country, impacting your freedom,

00:35:34.090 --> 00:35:37.429
impacting your privacy. See what they're doing.

00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.679
Just think that because you can't see anything

00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.500
around you that you're not being tracked, followed,

00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.219
and profiled, or that data isn't being collected

00:35:47.219 --> 00:35:49.960
on everything that you do because you have a

00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.079
digital ID. Don't think of this as a convenience.

00:35:53.179 --> 00:35:55.360
Understand that this is a method of control,

00:35:55.420 --> 00:35:58.219
no matter what country you're in. It's not about

00:35:58.219 --> 00:36:01.440
convenience. This is about control. So you have

00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.619
to, you know, think differently about it. Absolutely.

00:36:05.179 --> 00:36:08.769
You know, Twyla, we've just had an initial conversation

00:36:08.769 --> 00:36:11.409
of both HIPAA and the Real ID and how both of

00:36:11.409 --> 00:36:15.989
these really violate person's God -given rights.

00:36:15.989 --> 00:36:18.690
And that is international. Our rights from God

00:36:18.690 --> 00:36:21.090
are international. And I definitely want to have

00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:23.710
you back, especially as we're finding legislation

00:36:23.710 --> 00:36:25.750
and different things taking place that can help

00:36:25.750 --> 00:36:27.469
reverse this. I want to get some updates from

00:36:27.469 --> 00:36:29.869
you. So please make a point of putting me on

00:36:29.869 --> 00:36:31.769
your short list that I can have you back soon.

00:36:32.550 --> 00:36:34.590
Oh, absolutely. We'd love to come back. Thank

00:36:34.590 --> 00:36:43.849
you so much. So part of what I didn't like learning

00:36:43.849 --> 00:36:46.949
is that the Real ID Act passed without a hearing

00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:50.030
or a vote and was actually tagged onto a defense

00:36:50.030 --> 00:36:52.849
spending bill. This is evidence of tyrannical

00:36:52.849 --> 00:36:56.130
management of we the people. I also don't like

00:36:56.130 --> 00:36:58.449
that this is actually a method for the federal

00:36:58.449 --> 00:37:01.389
government to take charge over our state department

00:37:01.389 --> 00:37:05.079
motor vehicles. which usurps our state representation

00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.900
of us as citizens. The way this all came down

00:37:08.900 --> 00:37:11.719
means our legislators, who are supposed to represent

00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.500
us, gave up and allowed efforts that are entirely

00:37:15.500 --> 00:37:18.760
unconstitutional and that also promote globalism

00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:22.519
to prevail. The real ID cards are said to have

00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.420
enhanced security aspects that make counterfeiting

00:37:25.420 --> 00:37:28.960
the ID more difficult. But more, the Real ID

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.900
card contains compliance that helps pave the

00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:35.940
way for secure mobile identifications on smartphones.

00:37:36.579 --> 00:37:39.559
Claims are that this system will not create a

00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.199
federal database and that each state maintains

00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.579
their own records. So why are the feds involved

00:37:45.579 --> 00:37:48.239
in this ID process at all? There are just too

00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.969
many unsupported issues for me. Patrick G. Eddington,

00:37:52.130 --> 00:37:54.590
a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, wrote,

00:37:55.050 --> 00:37:58.190
The premise for requiring the real ID is the

00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:01.730
assumption that all of us are terrorists first

00:38:01.730 --> 00:38:04.530
and a citizen of the Republic a very distant

00:38:04.530 --> 00:38:07.530
second. Who do we have to thank for this terrible

00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:11.429
idea? The 9 -11 Commission. In fact, it was one

00:38:11.429 --> 00:38:14.400
of its core recommendations. As the Commission

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.239
noted in its final July 2004 report, quote, all

00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.199
but one of the 9 -11 hijackers acquired some

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.980
form of U .S. identification document, some by

00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:28.400
fraud. Acquisition of these forms of identification

00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.000
would have assisted them in boarding commercial

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.820
flights, renting cars, and other necessary activities.

00:38:35.619 --> 00:38:37.900
In response, the Commission recommended that

00:38:37.900 --> 00:38:41.039
the federal government quote, should set standards

00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.619
for the issuance of birth certificates and sources

00:38:43.619 --> 00:38:46.539
of identification such as driver's licenses,

00:38:47.059 --> 00:38:51.440
end quote. But the 9 -11 report continued, quote,

00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.539
fraud in identification documents is no longer

00:38:54.539 --> 00:38:57.739
just a problem of theft. At many entry points

00:38:57.739 --> 00:39:00.380
to vulnerable facilities, including gates for

00:39:00.380 --> 00:39:03.039
boarding aircraft, sources of identification

00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.079
are the last opportunity to ensure that people

00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.780
are who they say they are and to check whether

00:39:09.780 --> 00:39:14.199
they are terrorists." End quote. Eddington responds,

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.659
quote, the entire notion that an identification

00:39:17.659 --> 00:39:21.179
card is the last opportunity to rule out terrorists

00:39:21.179 --> 00:39:24.079
is refuted by the fact that the most effective

00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:27.219
last -ditch protection against bad actors among

00:39:27.219 --> 00:39:31.019
the public boarding an aircraft is physical screening

00:39:31.019 --> 00:39:34.280
of the passengers themselves and their luggage.

00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.730
End quote. And of course this physical screening

00:39:37.730 --> 00:39:40.590
of passengers and their luggage to discover if

00:39:40.590 --> 00:39:42.730
any weapons are attempted to be brought on board

00:39:42.730 --> 00:39:46.550
aircraft sets the population up to be even more

00:39:46.550 --> 00:39:50.329
accepting of personal biometric data collection

00:39:50.329 --> 00:39:54.030
under the guise of safety. But getting back to

00:39:54.030 --> 00:39:56.130
a point Eddington made that I really liked, he

00:39:56.130 --> 00:39:59.059
wrote quote, I'm not aware of a single post -9

00:39:59.059 --> 00:40:02.480
-11 incident in which an actual terrorist, such

00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.380
as the so -called shoe bomber or the underwear

00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:09.840
bomber, boarded an aircraft with a fake ID. Yet

00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.420
those two made it aboard aircraft with explosive

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:14.760
or incendiary devices that could have brought

00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.639
down the planes they were on and killed all aboard.

00:40:17.849 --> 00:40:21.449
TSA's struggle with passenger screening technologies

00:40:21.449 --> 00:40:24.329
and procedures is well known and represents a

00:40:24.329 --> 00:40:27.130
far bigger safety issue than determining who

00:40:27.130 --> 00:40:30.409
is boarding a given aircraft by their ID card.

00:40:31.349 --> 00:40:34.130
The Real ID Act effectively institutes a form

00:40:34.130 --> 00:40:37.449
of mass surveillance and verification that doesn't

00:40:37.449 --> 00:40:40.190
discriminate between those who have a given reason

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:43.800
for suspicion and those who do not. The Real

00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.059
ID Act also raises several constitutional issues

00:40:47.059 --> 00:40:49.889
that have never been adjudicated. The Supreme

00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:52.250
Court has consistently ruled that the federal

00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:55.230
government can't directly prohibit interstate

00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:58.409
travel, but by making it increasingly difficult

00:40:58.409 --> 00:41:02.050
to travel without Real ID, the government accomplishes

00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:05.409
a similar result indirectly. The question becomes

00:41:05.409 --> 00:41:08.610
whether the security benefits of Real ID justify

00:41:08.610 --> 00:41:11.250
the burden placed on particular modes of travel.

00:41:11.630 --> 00:41:14.969
The record to date clearly shows they do not.

00:41:15.590 --> 00:41:18.469
Eddington concludes his article stating, finally,

00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.900
It implicates the principle of proportionality

00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:24.639
in constitutional law, whether the restriction

00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:27.380
on rights is proportional to the government interest

00:41:27.380 --> 00:41:30.820
being served. The differential treatment of air

00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:34.300
and rail travel exposes the hypocrisy and the

00:41:34.300 --> 00:41:37.360
inconsistency in how the government assesses

00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.320
security risks and the appropriate responses

00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.480
to those risks. The government has no business

00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.519
knowing who I am or why I am traveling domestically

00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.639
on an airliner unless I'm wanted for a crime

00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.900
or have given reason to suspect my intentions

00:41:52.900 --> 00:41:55.659
by having weapons on my person or in my luggage

00:41:55.659 --> 00:41:59.369
during screening. Real ID obliterates the idea

00:41:59.369 --> 00:42:02.010
of freedom of travel, which is why it should

00:42:02.010 --> 00:42:05.929
be abolished." End quote. So with just this much

00:42:05.929 --> 00:42:09.349
so far, we have ample good reason to get rid

00:42:09.349 --> 00:42:12.510
of the Real ID Act. And I'm not sure if Twyla

00:42:12.510 --> 00:42:16.530
made it clear enough, but you have options. Even

00:42:16.530 --> 00:42:18.849
though Tulsi Gabbard and others are making the

00:42:18.849 --> 00:42:22.820
public believe the Real ID is required, All US

00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:25.659
states allow you to choose not to upgrade to

00:42:25.659 --> 00:42:29.239
a real ID compliant license, effectively allowing

00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.480
you to keep a standard ID by simply not applying

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.599
for the real ID compliant version when you renew.

00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.739
While the Real ID Act sets federal standards,

00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.719
states are not mandated to require all residents

00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.960
to have a Real ID. They continue to offer standard

00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.079
non -compliant IDs for residents who prefer them

00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.940
or who do not need them for federal purposes.

00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.780
Five states previously resisted the Real ID mandate,

00:42:55.820 --> 00:42:59.179
but now issue federally accepted enhanced driver's

00:42:59.179 --> 00:43:04.349
licenses, EDL, as an alternative. These EDLs

00:43:04.349 --> 00:43:07.429
serve the same function as a real ID for domestic

00:43:07.429 --> 00:43:10.030
air travel and other federal purposes, but are

00:43:10.030 --> 00:43:13.349
not required for residents. The states included

00:43:13.349 --> 00:43:17.210
Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, and Washington.

00:43:17.650 --> 00:43:19.730
And if you are a resident of any of these five

00:43:19.730 --> 00:43:22.309
states, I suggest you look into what these EDLs

00:43:22.309 --> 00:43:25.730
actually entail before you accept it. States

00:43:25.730 --> 00:43:28.690
that don't have an EDL are still offering their

00:43:28.690 --> 00:43:31.150
standard state driver's license. If you have

00:43:31.150 --> 00:43:33.909
already secured a real ID and you want to return

00:43:33.909 --> 00:43:36.630
to your DMV and apply for a standard state license,

00:43:36.710 --> 00:43:39.250
you can. It will mean filling out the necessary

00:43:39.250 --> 00:43:42.449
application and paying any required fees, but

00:43:42.449 --> 00:43:45.969
you will be removing yourself from the unconstitutional

00:43:45.969 --> 00:43:48.710
restrictions and making a statement to our federal

00:43:48.710 --> 00:43:51.449
and state governments at the same time. Now,

00:43:51.449 --> 00:43:53.849
with a standard driver's license, you will need

00:43:53.849 --> 00:43:57.110
to show a valid United States passport to enter

00:43:57.110 --> 00:43:59.769
a federal building or for domestic air travel.

00:44:00.210 --> 00:44:03.389
This is what I and my husband have opted to do.

00:44:03.929 --> 00:44:07.190
While nationwide enforcement propaganda for federal

00:44:07.190 --> 00:44:11.250
purposes began in May 2025, several states and

00:44:11.250 --> 00:44:13.750
civil liberties organizations continue to oppose

00:44:13.750 --> 00:44:16.449
the law on the grounds that it creates a de facto

00:44:16.449 --> 00:44:20.420
national ID and is an invasion of privacy. Here

00:44:20.420 --> 00:44:23.539
are some actions you can take. First, opt for

00:44:23.539 --> 00:44:26.760
an alternative ID where possible. In some states,

00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:29.280
you can obtain a drive -only license, which is

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not a Real ID compliant driver's license, and

00:44:32.179 --> 00:44:34.559
it's solely for the purpose of driving. Using

00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.440
a non -compliant ID for state functions and a

00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.739
passport for federal purposes like air travel

00:44:39.739 --> 00:44:43.239
can help resist the normalization of Real ID

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as a national ID. For air travel and accessing

00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:49.849
federal facilities, you can use a United States

00:44:49.849 --> 00:44:53.489
passport or another TSA approved ID instead of

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a Real ID compliant state license. This can help

00:44:56.610 --> 00:44:59.889
push back on the idea that Real ID is the only

00:44:59.889 --> 00:45:03.170
form of identification. You can contact your

00:45:03.170 --> 00:45:06.309
state legislators to voice your opposition and

00:45:06.309 --> 00:45:08.889
encourage them to propose or support measures

00:45:08.889 --> 00:45:12.110
that roll back state -level Real ID compliance.

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You can contact federal representatives contacting

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your United States senators and congressional

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representatives and asking them to repeal or

00:45:20.369 --> 00:45:23.550
reform the Real ID Act. You can argue that it

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infringes on privacy rights and that other secure

00:45:26.269 --> 00:45:29.230
identification methods already exist. You can

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sign petitions. Participate in online petitions

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such as those hosted on platforms like Action

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Network calling for the repeal of the Real ID

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Act. You can support advocacy organizations.

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You can donate or volunteer with organizations

00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.940
that have historically and continue to oppose

00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:49.980
the Real ID Act. Opposition has drawn support

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from groups spanning the political spectrum including

00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.800
civil liberties groups, libertarians, immigration

00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:59.219
advocates, and state -level organizations. They

00:45:59.219 --> 00:46:02.719
use strategic litigation and advocacy to challenge

00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.380
government surveillance and national ID systems.

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Using an internet search, I found a long list

00:46:08.179 --> 00:46:10.760
of different organizations, including the American

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Center for Law and Justice. You can help raise

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.539
public awareness, spread information about the

00:46:16.539 --> 00:46:18.780
privacy and surveillance concerns associated

00:46:18.780 --> 00:46:21.639
with the Real ID Act, and challenge its purpose

00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.800
as a national ID. Use social media, community

00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.500
meetings, and online forums to inform others.

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My faithful listeners know the advancement of

00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.039
evil we have been subjected to is multi -pronged

00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.579
and by design has been launched on all possible

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fronts. As God explained in his prophetic word

00:46:41.460 --> 00:46:43.699
through Julie Green, which she posted on October

00:46:43.699 --> 00:46:47.500
6th, we are in a war with countless battles occurring

00:46:47.500 --> 00:46:50.719
simultaneously. It is the intention of the enemy

00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.230
to have a scattered distracted and ineffective

00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:57.869
by the sheer magnitude of assaults. Through Julie,

00:46:58.110 --> 00:47:01.449
God said, quote, You may be asking, Lord, what

00:47:01.449 --> 00:47:04.369
do we do? Our enemies are targeting every part

00:47:04.369 --> 00:47:06.809
of our lives. They are targeting our nations,

00:47:06.989 --> 00:47:10.630
our freedoms, our children, our health, our minds,

00:47:11.030 --> 00:47:14.809
our finances, our well -being. What can we possibly

00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:17.789
do about this? What kind of choice do we have

00:47:17.789 --> 00:47:20.389
if our enemies have this type of hold already

00:47:20.389 --> 00:47:23.349
in place and have designed all these things against

00:47:23.349 --> 00:47:27.849
us? How do we fight them back? My children, God

00:47:27.849 --> 00:47:33.989
says, you war. You worship. and resist while

00:47:33.989 --> 00:47:38.690
the wicked are restricted." End quote. God says

00:47:38.690 --> 00:47:44.510
you war, worship, and resist. W -A -R. While

00:47:44.510 --> 00:47:49.630
the wicked are restricted. As we war, the wicked

00:47:49.630 --> 00:47:52.510
are restricted. No matter what the battlefront,

00:47:52.750 --> 00:47:55.510
the victory is assured by the same tactic in

00:47:55.510 --> 00:48:00.230
every situation. Worship and resist. We worship

00:48:00.230 --> 00:48:03.369
God for who he is and what he has promised and

00:48:03.369 --> 00:48:07.090
what he has already done. God has revealed our

00:48:07.090 --> 00:48:09.769
enemies are petrified of born -again Christians.

00:48:10.250 --> 00:48:14.250
The enemy knows the power we have over him and

00:48:14.250 --> 00:48:17.329
his schemes when we wield the authority and the

00:48:17.329 --> 00:48:21.429
power we have in Jesus Christ. God knows we have

00:48:21.429 --> 00:48:24.250
not been properly taught how to wield his power

00:48:24.250 --> 00:48:27.630
but he is now by the Holy Spirit raising us up

00:48:27.630 --> 00:48:33.320
to speak decree and declare our victory in Christ.

00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.239
Next week I plan on readdressing our world economy

00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.199
and financial concerns in light of the United

00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.179
States government being shut down and all that

00:48:42.179 --> 00:48:45.400
entails not just for Americans but for the world.

00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.320
If you need a good shot of hope and encouragement

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plan on joining me next week for more Faith to

00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:53.880
Live By. Now I ask you to please listen to my

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closing announcements and to take advantage of

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The first announcement clarifies more about the

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.059
changes to our Greece tour scheduled for April

00:49:06.059 --> 00:49:09.239
2026. If you haven't yet signed up to join us

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please listen carefully and follow the instructions

00:49:11.619 --> 00:49:14.320
because I really want all of us to be able to

00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:18.320
meet up in Greece. It may seem far off, but most

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people make plans for a significant vacation

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about a year in advance. So if you haven't already

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expressed interest in traveling with us in April

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2026, Now is the time to do so. We want to have

00:49:30.050 --> 00:49:32.250
about 30 people total because this size group

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works best for the specific tour I have in mind.

00:49:35.429 --> 00:49:37.809
We'll be walking the footsteps of the Apostle

00:49:37.809 --> 00:49:41.010
Paul. I'm using the time between now and October

00:49:41.010 --> 00:49:44.190
2025 to determine if we have enough interest

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and the trend indicates we definitely should.

00:49:46.889 --> 00:49:49.130
We have just about 30 people on the list now

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but I'd like to have more because when it comes

00:49:51.590 --> 00:49:53.969
to the actual day of making a commitment things

00:49:53.969 --> 00:49:56.269
could have changed and I want to be able to have

00:49:56.269 --> 00:49:59.349
at least 30 actually attend the tour. So if you

00:49:59.349 --> 00:50:01.170
think you'd like to be part of the Fakes Lived

00:50:01.170 --> 00:50:04.809
By Christian Tour with me in Greece during April

00:50:04.809 --> 00:50:08.170
2026, now is the time to get your name and number

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in your party on the list. There's no obligation

00:50:10.769 --> 00:50:13.090
at this point. You're just expressing your interest.

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Attendees need to arrange their own air travel

00:50:15.230 --> 00:50:17.389
to and from the Athens International Airport.

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To get your name on the list, send an email to

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faithtoliveby at pamelchristianministries .com

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with the word Greece in the subject line. In

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the body of the email, provide your name, contact

00:50:28.659 --> 00:50:31.039
information, and number of people you expect

00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.159
to be in your party. This will place your name

00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.840
on the Interested in Attending list, but does

00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.239
not obligate you in any way. It merely assures

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you have first right of refusal when down payments

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