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Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith

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to Live By. I'm Pam Christian, your host of this

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program, where each week I seek to help us discern

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current events so we, as God's children, can

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know how He wants us to respond. Today's program

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is part three of my interview with Mel Kay, and

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I must say, if you didn't hear parts one and

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two, you really need to hear those first to understand

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this third part, which is the wrap up for everything

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we've talked about before. There is a lot going

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on in our world today that, as Mel Kay explains,

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are the efforts of the globalists who have been

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actively seeking to deconstruct the United States

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of America since World War II, if not before.

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They have advanced their plans to the point that

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the whole world is wary of the potential of World

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War III. And as we watch events between Russia

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and Ukraine, Israel and the Middle East, not

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to mention other places in our world, Everything

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seems to be escalating which the globalists want

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to see happen in the furtherance of their agenda.

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However, if you think about it, humanity has

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always been subject to a world war, the war between

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good and evil. God has always wanted a one world

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government for his people under him, whereas

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the enemy, Satan, has always sought to take over

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this world under his own government where he

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wants to rule over the people of the world. This

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is the spiritual war we and every human being

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ever born has lived in. However, in our lifetimes

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we have experienced the greatest intensity of

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this war the world has ever seen. There has never

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been such an advance of evil and the enemy has

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never come as close to overcoming God's people

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as he has these past five years. once again as

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proven time and again in history whenever God's

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people fail to fight the good fight and become

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lazy or fall asleep or are deceived or worse

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when they outright reject the ways of God God's

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people find themselves suffering under evil until

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they wake up repent and choose to be restored

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and work with God to see his kingdom will done

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on earth as it is in heaven. God has clearly

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revealed in his written word, the Bible, that

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we are soldiers in his army. And unless we are

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actively engaged in winning the war, we will

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become subject to the ways of evil. Don't misunderstand.

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The enemy of God will never win. He cannot defeat

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God. He has not got the power or the ability

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to do so. However, when God's people fail to

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remain engaged with God, the enemy gains tremendous

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ground and the whole world suffers. Again this

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explains how we came to experience the greatest

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advancement of evil the world has ever seen leading

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up to what we have suffered in these past five

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years. But the truth of today is the church has

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finally been awakened and we are now in the process

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of fighting this ancient spiritual battle from

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a defensive position. Although we came far too

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close to the enemy's battles being won, with

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God's help we have managed to climb to the top

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of the hill, as prophet Robin Bullock explains,

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where we must be determined to never allow the

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enemy the same advances ever again. I have edited

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a portion of Robin Bullock's conversation with

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Steve Schultz on Elijah Streams that I'll play

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for you after I share with you part three of

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my interview with Mel Kay, but before all of

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that, I need to make the announcement about our

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Greece tour in April 2026. We want to get a group

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of about 30 people signed up because this size

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group is best for this type tour. And the more

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people who sign up the less the trip costs each

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one of us. Some who previously signed up have

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had to let me know that their plans changed which

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means we have more spots available now and we

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want to fill them all up. At this point it's

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just a matter of putting your name on the reservation

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list with your final confirmation in the next

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month or so. If you've been thinking about joining

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us on our Greece tour, now is the time to sign

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up to assure your place. And since some spots

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have opened up, why not ask some friends and

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family to also register so you can all travel

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together as part of this Christian tour group.

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The tour is called In the Footsteps of the Apostle

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Paul because we'll be visiting many of the same

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places he preached, which will really allow the

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historical events of our faith to come alive

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in our hearts. To be sure you're on the reservation

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list, send me an email to faithtoliveby at pamelacristianministries

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.com with the word Greece in the subject line.

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Place all of your contact details in the body

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of the email and the total number of people in

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your party. Get that to me right away and expect

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a reply so we can confirm your reservation and

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learn of any special needs or requests you may

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have. If you didn't get a chance to write down

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what I just shared, I'll review again later in

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the program. But please don't wait to reserve

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your place. We need to have a minimum number

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confirmed for the trip to take place and I am

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praying for the maximum number of 30 people since

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this makes for the best experience for everyone.

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Okay, now let me share with you the final portion

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of my three -part interview with Mel K. The only

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difference between communism and socialism is

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socialism is a slow burn of a of a frog in a

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pot boiling water and communism is at the end

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of a gun, you know, and and we are at somewhere

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in between right now and We are the last stand

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for it. So if the American people don't locally

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mobilize in every county What do we have like

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3 ,700 counties in America? If you had county

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by county groups of Liberty minded privacy minded

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personal property the government has no business

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in America inside my house, inside my private

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hive, inside my brain, and inside my data. If

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we all stood together behind the Constitution

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in our local districts and our local county seats,

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this would not work out. They would lose. They

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would lose. In the meantime, The American people

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are so divided by design. This is this we are

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in a color revolution They kicked off the day

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Donald Trump became the nominee We are still

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in it and the people have not been held accountable

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I am very happy to hear about a ground jury But

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I've been reporting on this for seven years and

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there is so much evidence That they could have

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just gone and arrested a whole bunch of people

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and they didn't And and there's a I'm not sure

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why maybe they did and we don't know about it

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at this point But I know that this is on a local

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level the same thing that needs we want to happen

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in DC needs to happen locally. This is not going

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to get fixed in D .C. It's going to get fixed

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in your city council, your school board, your

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county clerk, your mayor's office. That's where

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it gets fixed. And it's accountability. And these

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people, we have to remember, everyone puts on

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their pants in the morning. Everyone goes to

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the bathroom. You know, in the dark, we all look

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the same. The bottom line is we are all the same.

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Nobody is above us. And these people that have

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gone into particularly the infiltration of the

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Islam and the Democrat Socialist of America and

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and all of this particularly kicked off under

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Obama, but now we have them in every town. They

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are antithetical. They do not believe in the

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Constitution or the Bill of Rights or borders.

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You know, George Soros, again, no borders, no

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Constitution, no rule of law. total chaos, order

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out of chaos. What is the solution? Technocracy

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where you have no choices. They're all made for

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you. So that's why I wrote the book. That's why

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I do my show every day is because, yeah, I want

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everyone that was involved with Epstein held

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accountable. I mean, it's it's ludicrous that

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JP Morgan Chase paid three hundred and sixty

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five million dollars to the victims of Jeffrey

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Epstein. And they're telling us that there are

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no Johns. You know, there are no no one is on

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the other side. Like, yeah, you can if they can

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find sixteen hundred people that stood outside

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of the Capitol without weapons, many of them

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praying on January 6, well then they can find

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every single transaction that was made at JP

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Morgan Chase over 20 years with Jeffrey Epstein

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and that's gonna net probably, you know, a couple.

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dozen, you know, perpetrators, but they're not

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doing that. And I believe that it's all because

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of the international banking system. So I think

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that that I think all of this is connected. And

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it's really about holding on to this post World

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War two fraud on the United States of America.

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And they've embedded and they've infiltrated

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us in every way, shape and form. And if the American

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people can get together locally, forget the forget,

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even Trump, forget all of that. Just talk about

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regular, just God and country and freedom and

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liberty and privacy, all the things that mattered,

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all the things that those men signed that document

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knowing that if they lost, that everything would

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be burnt to the ground. What they risked, the

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signers of the Declaration of Independence and

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the Constitution, we should all be willing to

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risk. But all because it's technology. It's not

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different. It's still tyranny. It's just tyranny

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that once entered into, I don't believe you can

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get out of. Absolutely. Now you've spent, I don't

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know what, 30 years of your life researching

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this and understanding how this all comes together.

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And I'm so glad. I mean, I love your show. It's

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an OK show. I'll have the emails on my show notes

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so that my listeners can find it easily. There'll

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be a link. Great. But I also am very glad you've

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written your book. Thank you. Because it gives

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people time to read and reread, digest. think

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about it, discuss it with others on a local level.

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It's really much, much needed and I'm going to

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do everything possible to help it get into the

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hands of at least my listeners. Great and I love

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talking to you and I do want to say something

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because I found something recently I'm going

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to be speaking at the Gateway Pundit event in

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Vegas and it's really going to shock people but

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we have to start to understand the level to which

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the CIA has lied to the people of this country

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at the highest level after the murder of JFK

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and that the lie never stopped and that a lot

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of the people that we are outing now were a long

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line of intelligence Agencies that their whole

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purpose was to undermine the United States of

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America I fully believe this and I have I'm starting

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on a new book about 1944 to 1954 when I believe

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America was completely and totally put in the

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dark about the truth about our country our banking

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system particularly and endless wars because

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I firmly believe the American people given the

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knowledge as I put in my book, but what I'm finding

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now is is even worse because I believe that we

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have all been looted, lied to. And I'm talking

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about trillions of dollars of taxpayer money

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has gone missing. OK, overseas. And I believe

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that it is still connected. I call it the Fourth

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Reich because I don't think people understand

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when they say Nazi or Third Reich that it had

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to do with international banking, international

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business. Wall Street. I mean, when people finally

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understand, which I believe they will, particularly

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at the dismantling, I hope, of the Fed, how much

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the American people and all of our relatives

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that died in these wars and what really happened

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after World War Two. I just I will end on this.

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Chuck Grassley right now is doing a huge investigation

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in Switzerland that isn't getting a lot of press.

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He's doing it in tandem with Malay of Argentina.

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And what he asked Malay for our hundreds of thousands

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of documents from Switzerland to Argentina because

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it's not a couple Nazis from Operation Paperclip

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it was around 12 ,000 that came and that met

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some of them sentenced to death at Nuremberg

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that instead were funneled their money was funneled

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through Switzerland through Argentina and into

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America and then into a lot of our college universities

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into our jet propulsion lab and NASA I mean there

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was a huge deception on the American people and

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the what they are doing right now is they are

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investigating Credit Suisse in Switzerland, which

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was the Nazis' basically Goath bank. So it looks

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like in 1944, the international multinational

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corporations, the international banks, with the

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BIS at the top at the time being run by an American,

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McKittridge, and at the time Alan Dulles was

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in this OSS creating the CIA in Switzerland as

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well, it does appear that America was infiltrated

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by the... international organizations that came

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out of World War II and that from that day on

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we've been paying for the whole thing. I mean,

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I really believe that we have been paying for

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the UN, the NATO, the World Economic Forum, every

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war, the World Bank, IMF. I really believe the

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American people have been so lied and looted,

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and now we're $37 trillion in debt. You wonder

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how. I think that we were set up this way, and

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they never thought America would make it past

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Hillary Clinton. And Agenda 2030 was to close

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the books, wipe it all out. And then move forward

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as if that didn't happen. And I think that would

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be very empowering if American people start looking

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into that. So check out Chuck Grassley's thing.

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Because you know what? UBS bought Credit Suisse.

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And they said when the Chuck Grassley report

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about the rat lines of the Nazis to America after

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World War II comes out, that our entire understanding

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of post -World War II and World War II itself

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will be completely blown apart. And I hope so,

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because the American people have to know we're

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not in debt, $37 trillion. No, in fact, we were

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stolen. Our money was stolen and stolen for things

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that we would never have supported and for developing

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nations that never develop. And for a small handful,

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about 6 ,000, 7 ,000 people worldwide that treat

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the planet like they're the parent company. And

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8 billion of us are just lucky to live here.

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So it's a great time to be alive and to be an

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American. And you take this information and you

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weaponize it in a way that's going to go towards

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positive change with a ripple effect. And every

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American citizen can do that. It doesn't matter

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if you have a sixth grade education or God forbid,

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now if you have a PhD from Harvard, I'm not hiring

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you, but whatever you have, it doesn't matter

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your education level. What matters is that you

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believe in God and freedom and liberty and that

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every man deserves to have, to meet their potential,

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meritocracy. There's just so much out there and

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it's a great time to get together with like -minded

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folks that believe in the fundamentals and believe

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in humanity. I end my show now with every show

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saying stay human because you have to. The battle

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is on your brain and you have to control it by

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knowing the information and reading it yourself.

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And I do want to add on the MelKShow .com I have

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a free resource page where I put a lot of the

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documents that I'm talking about that you can

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look up and read them yourself. And it says right

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there what it's about. So yeah. So I want people

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to be their own. Take your brain back first and

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foremost. Once you do, it will empower you like

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people can't even imagine. Absolutely. I can't

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think of a better place for us to end this conversation.

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But this is not the end of your being part of

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this podcast. I hope not. We'll definitely want

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to talk soon. OK, great. Thank you so much for

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having me. Great time. I'll see you again. Mel

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pointed out how dangerously close we've come

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to the globalists winning in defeating the United

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States of America and other nations too for that

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matter with their agenda 2030. She pointed out

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how America is the last stand for defeating globalism

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and I'm exceedingly grateful that more people

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are waking up and becoming engaged in the process

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of reclaiming our freedoms and our God -given

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rights. may stress the importance of each of

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us being engaged locally and in this way creating

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a grassroots ground up reclaiming of our governments.

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We must do this in all of our nations wherever

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we can. Robin Bullock was recently on Elijah

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Streams with Steve Schultz. In fact it was August

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25th. I want you to watch the entire interview

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so I provided you a link in the show notes. But

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in keeping with what Mel Kay has just shared,

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I have edited down about a five -minute segment

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for you to be encouraged by Robin D Bullock.

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To set up what you'll hear, Robin and Steve were

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referencing Matthew 16 18 which I've taught on

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before. But as a refresher, in context Matthew

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16 versus 13 to 20, Jesus is speaking to his

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disciples, and he asks the question, Who do the

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people say the Son of Man is? The term Son of

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Man was one of Jesus' most often that he used

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of himself. Verse 14 records their response.

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Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah,

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and others say Jeremiah or one of the prophets.

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Now, this is interesting because each of the

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named people were already dead, so it seems that

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the people considered the prospect of Jesus being

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one of them restored to life. Anyway, next we

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see that Jesus asked his disciples, But who do

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you say I am? And in verse 16, Simon Peter replied,

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You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

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And in verse 17, Jesus answered, Blessed are

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you, Simon Bar -Jonah. Now I want to stop here

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and ask you to keep in mind that Simon was his

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Aramaic Hebrew name and bar Jonah means son of

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Jonah the name of his natural father. Jesus continues,

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for flesh and blood has not revealed this to

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you but my father who is in heaven. And then

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in verse 18 we read Jesus says, and I tell you

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you are now Peter which is Greek for rock or

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stone. And on this rock, specifically meaning

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the revelation God gave Peter that Jesus is the

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Christ, he goes on to say, I want to make three

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points for clarity. First, up to this point the

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disciple we know as Peter was called Simon, who

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with this exchange with Jesus is given a new

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Greek name, Cephas, which in English is Peter.

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The second point, Jesus did not say he would

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build his church. He actually used the Greek

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word ecclesia, which has a far greater meaning

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than the use of our word church today. And he

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did not say he would build his ecclesia on Peter,

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but rather that he would build it on the rock

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of revelation Peter received that Jesus is Lord.

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Now with this in mind, please listen to the words

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of Robin Bullock as interviewed by Steve Schultz

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on Elijah Streams published August 25th. 2025.

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He said the gates of hell will not prevail against

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the church, but you're right. The church doesn't

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exist yet. He's prophesying. He's prophesying

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2016 is what he prophesied. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

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He, he was prophesying that, that we would have

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to fight that. So profits on this side of the

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page after the election. We have to remember

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something. We absolutely, it was the words of

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prophets that broke that, that thing that had

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the world, the perception we shattered false

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perception, the words of the prophets. It wasn't

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us in ourselves that did it. It was the spirit

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of God, the Holy ghost speaking through prophets,

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prophesying the future. into that present situation

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and it broke it all to pieces. And so now Trump

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is in and the church has the greatest opportunity

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they've ever had to total have total victory.

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But here's the thing. The easiest war to fight

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is a defensive war. So the church has won. Now

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we're in the ground to stand and defend what

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we've won. And if the church don't stand up and

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defend it, you're on the high ground. Now they

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have to come up the hill on the high ground to

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take it. If the church don't want to give it

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up, we will hold the high ground from here forever.

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If we wanted to, because it's the easiest now

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we had to climb the hill and take it the first

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time and look at all the casualties. But now

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we're on the high ground. So we're in the easiest

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part of the war as far as defending it we've

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ever been. But the hardest part of the war, because

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now we're in a psychological war and we never,

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we never believed as a whole that it was that

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way. No, don't believe in profits. Don't let

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profits speak. Don't let this happen. And the

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profits are the only one of the five fold that

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deals in tomorrow. And if you want to know what's

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going to happen tomorrow in government and in

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world events, you need to listen to a prophet.

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And so in a way, we're in the easiest part of

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the war physically. All we have to do is stand

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up and speak. And see, we're in the greatest

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position to hold the ground we've ever seen.

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I mean, we're in the greatest position. We even

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have the civil government behind us right now.

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We have, we have the right president. We have

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the right people in office. We have, and now

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the church can rise up and no, wait a minute.

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We were never going to act like we did on the

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other side of the page. We're going to now act

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like what we were called to be. We're going to

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stand on the hill. Remember when you've done

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all to stand. Stand there for having your loins

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girt about and talking about the armor of God.

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That's a military term. And it means when you've

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taken the hill and you've defeated every devil,

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stand ready to defeat the next one that tries

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to come at you. So you understand what I mean

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about a defensive war is easier. Yeah. You're

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defending the high ground, which is the best

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ground. So that's the best position. Yeah. You've

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already taken it. Yeah. Now, what do we do on

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this side? Do we just go back to what we were

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doing and just put on our snake skin shoes and

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our $5 ,000 suits? And do we just stand around

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and say, well, uh, everything's good now, you

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know, Trump is president. We're going to just

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win, win, win, win. Is that what we're going

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to do? Well, that was the attitude that got us

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into the other position. So on this side, we

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stand on the high ground and say, you never getting

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this hill again. You're not going to get this

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again. And we stand and we, we, we stand for

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each other. We, we, we become the church. We

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have to become the church, the, uh, the great

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commission church. And we begin to believe in

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the miracles. We begin to, we don't coddle sin.

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We don't ordain. We don't, we'd never let somebody

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do this again. And we just step out there and

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start being the church. We're in a good position,

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Steve. And we're the first position in how many

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years since 2008 since Reagan's day. Yeah. We're

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in the first position ever to occupy the high

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ground. And here's something prophetically for

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everybody here to occupy the hill. I love that

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Robin used the term to occupy the hill. Of course

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he's referring to Washington DC, but it also

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reminds me of a game I used to play as a kid

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called King of the Hill. And we're in a very

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similar situation. We are in the high ground

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now as the Church, as the Ecclesia. As Robin

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is pointing out, it's essential we operate as

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the Church, the Ecclesia, allowing the five -fold

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ministry to operate with the Holy Spirit directing

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us. And at the very beginning when Steve Schultz

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and Robin Bullock were talking, they were referencing

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Matthew chapter 16. And Robin made an excellent

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point that when Jesus was speaking to his disciples,

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he was not talking about the ecclesia or the

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church of that day because it was still being

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created. The church was still being created.

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Robin believes Jesus was speaking of the ecclesia

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or the church of our day, specifically beginning

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with the year 2016. Also I encourage you to listen

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to my podcast 255 called Advantage Ecclesia which

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ran in May of this year where I interview Alex

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Newman and I offer the prophecy of Amanda Grace

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about the church finally coming to the point

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in time where we will see the greater works that

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Jesus said we would do after him. It's important

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we understand the word Ecclesia because it was

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actually unique for Jesus to use even in that

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day, although all the people he was speaking

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to certainly would have understood it. The word

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Ecclesia is Greek and it means a group of people

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who are called out, referring to an assembly

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of people called together for a purpose. It was

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used in ancient Greece to describe a political

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assembly that gathered to deliberate and decide

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on matters of civil policy playing a significant

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role in the democracy of Greek city -states.

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By using this particular Greek word, Jesus made

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clear he expects his followers not only to share

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the gospel, but to be the leading influence over

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society, culture, and earthly governments. The

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fact our modern -day church has completely disengaged

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itself from the realms of politics and government

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is precisely why the enemy has been able to nearly

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overcome the United States and other nations,

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and the reason the globalists have succeeded

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to the point they have in other nations of the

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world such as Canada, the European Union, and

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Australia. As Robin expressed, God has always

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raised up prophets whose role has been to confront

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secular kings or government leaders who are promoting

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agendas contrary to the will of God. Think of

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Moses who confronted Pharaoh, or Elijah who confronted

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Ahab, or Nathan who confronted David, or Jonah

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who confronted the Ninevites. Even Daniel's stance

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before King Nebuchadnezzar is consistent with

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God's people opposing agendas contrary to the

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will of God. These are just five examples and

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there are many more in scriptures. As Christians

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we all have the ability to prophesy, therefore

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collectively we are all called to stand against

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any political or government authorities or mandates

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that are contrary to the will of God. We are

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to be the head and not the tail. If we are honest,

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the Church has not been the influencing standard

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God intends, which is why we are now faced with

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God's powerful intervention and praise God He

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is still willing to intervene on our behalf.

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While God's intervention will press back evil,

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it will also call each of us who belong to Him

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into account. The Church today is being firmly

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corrected and admonished to take our rightful

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place in God's plan. Then, working with God,

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we can maintain His standards of righteousness

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and governance for the people working in both

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our national governments and our international

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kingdom government of which Christ is King. I've

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been reading Mel Case's book which is excellent

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to not only provide us background of the many

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ways we got to the point we are in today, but

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also to help us understand what we, each one

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of us, must do to reverse the evils in our world

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with an emphasis on local involvement. Although

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if you are being called by God to national government,

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such as Grant Abraham is for Canada, then by

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all means please obey God. We need people who

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will promote law and order. and the righteous

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ways of God in all areas of government and in

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fact in all of the seven mountains of society.

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I highly recommend you get a copy of Mel K's

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book and I ask that you use my Amazon link in

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the show notes which will provide me a small

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affiliate commission while you are also supporting

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Mel K by purchasing her book. For next week's

00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.539
program I'm still seeking to get confirmation

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from Prophet Barry Wunsch, known as the Canadian

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Hammer. There's so much going on in Canada and

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he has said he will be giving me a date very

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soon. I also have other ideas for guests specific

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to current events and headlines with efforts

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on very specific information about the illegal

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track and tracing surveillance people of the

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world are suffering under today and the very

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real rogue realities of artificial intelligence.

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I also want to share my considerations about

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President Trump calling the National Guards in

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Washington DC and other cities in our nation

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and what more might actually be being accomplished.

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So be sure to listen next week knowing I will

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gladly serve you as your faithful advocate helping

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you helping me discover and live in life -giving

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truth and enjoying all the benefits truth provides.

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Now I ask you to listen to my closing announcements

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and to take advantage of the many goods and services

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I bring you in an effort to at least cover the

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costs of this podcast. The first announcement

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clarifies more about the changes to our Greece

00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:13.819
tour scheduled for April 2026. If you haven't

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yet signed up to join us, please listen carefully

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and follow the instructions because I really,

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really want all of us to be able to meet up in

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Greece. It may seem far off, but most people

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make plans for a significant vacation about a

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year in advance. So, if you haven't already expressed

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interest in traveling with us in April 2026...

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Now is the time to do so. We want to have about

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30 people total because this size group works

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best for the specific tour I have in mind. We'll

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be walking the footsteps of the Apostle Paul.

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I'm using the time between now and October 2025

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to determine if we have enough interest and the

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trend indicates we definitely should. We have

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just about 30 people on the list now but I'd

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like to have more because when it comes to the

00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.680
actual day of making a commitment things could

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have changed and I want to be able to have at

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least 30 actually attend the tour. So if you

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think you'd like to be part of the Fates Lived

00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:11.349
by Christian Tour with me in Greece during April

00:31:11.349 --> 00:31:14.690
2026, now is the time to get your name and number

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in your party on the list. There's no obligation

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at this point. You're just expressing your interest.

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Attendees need to arrange their own air travel

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to and from the Athens International Airport.

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To get your name on the list, send an email to

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faithtoliveby at pamelchristianministries .com

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with the word Greece in the subject line. In

00:31:32.730 --> 00:31:35.170
the body of the email, provide your name, contact

00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:37.569
information, and number of people you expect

00:31:37.569 --> 00:31:39.670
to be in your party. This will place your name

00:31:39.670 --> 00:31:42.369
on the Interested in Attending list but does

00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:44.769
not obligate you in any way. It merely assures

00:31:44.769 --> 00:31:47.170
you have first right of refusal when down payments

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are due. If you didn't get the details written

00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.460
down that I just shared, simply visit my Beyond

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the Podcast page using the link in the show notes.

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If you like what you hear from me with this podcast,

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issues. Until next week, I'm Pam Christian, asking

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you to remember, Christ died for us. The least

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we can do is live for Him.
