Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith
to Live By. I'm Pam Christian, your host of this
program, where each week I seek to help us discern
current events so we, as God's children, can
know how He wants us to respond. Today's program
is part three of my interview with Mel Kay, and
I must say, if you didn't hear parts one and
two, you really need to hear those first to understand
this third part, which is the wrap up for everything
we've talked about before. There is a lot going
on in our world today that, as Mel Kay explains,
are the efforts of the globalists who have been
actively seeking to deconstruct the United States
of America since World War II, if not before.
They have advanced their plans to the point that
the whole world is wary of the potential of World
War III. And as we watch events between Russia
and Ukraine, Israel and the Middle East, not
to mention other places in our world, Everything
seems to be escalating which the globalists want
to see happen in the furtherance of their agenda.
However, if you think about it, humanity has
always been subject to a world war, the war between
good and evil. God has always wanted a one world
government for his people under him, whereas
the enemy, Satan, has always sought to take over
this world under his own government where he
wants to rule over the people of the world. This
is the spiritual war we and every human being
ever born has lived in. However, in our lifetimes
we have experienced the greatest intensity of
this war the world has ever seen. There has never
been such an advance of evil and the enemy has
never come as close to overcoming God's people
as he has these past five years. once again as
proven time and again in history whenever God's
people fail to fight the good fight and become
lazy or fall asleep or are deceived or worse
when they outright reject the ways of God God's
people find themselves suffering under evil until
they wake up repent and choose to be restored
and work with God to see his kingdom will done
on earth as it is in heaven. God has clearly
revealed in his written word, the Bible, that
we are soldiers in his army. And unless we are
actively engaged in winning the war, we will
become subject to the ways of evil. Don't misunderstand.
The enemy of God will never win. He cannot defeat
God. He has not got the power or the ability
to do so. However, when God's people fail to
remain engaged with God, the enemy gains tremendous
ground and the whole world suffers. Again this
explains how we came to experience the greatest
advancement of evil the world has ever seen leading
up to what we have suffered in these past five
years. But the truth of today is the church has
finally been awakened and we are now in the process
of fighting this ancient spiritual battle from
a defensive position. Although we came far too
close to the enemy's battles being won, with
God's help we have managed to climb to the top
of the hill, as prophet Robin Bullock explains,
where we must be determined to never allow the
enemy the same advances ever again. I have edited
a portion of Robin Bullock's conversation with
Steve Schultz on Elijah Streams that I'll play
for you after I share with you part three of
my interview with Mel Kay, but before all of
that, I need to make the announcement about our
Greece tour in April 2026. We want to get a group
of about 30 people signed up because this size
group is best for this type tour. And the more
people who sign up the less the trip costs each
one of us. Some who previously signed up have
had to let me know that their plans changed which
means we have more spots available now and we
want to fill them all up. At this point it's
just a matter of putting your name on the reservation
list with your final confirmation in the next
month or so. If you've been thinking about joining
us on our Greece tour, now is the time to sign
up to assure your place. And since some spots
have opened up, why not ask some friends and
family to also register so you can all travel
together as part of this Christian tour group.
The tour is called In the Footsteps of the Apostle
Paul because we'll be visiting many of the same
places he preached, which will really allow the
historical events of our faith to come alive
in our hearts. To be sure you're on the reservation
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Place all of your contact details in the body
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your party. Get that to me right away and expect
a reply so we can confirm your reservation and
learn of any special needs or requests you may
have. If you didn't get a chance to write down
what I just shared, I'll review again later in
the program. But please don't wait to reserve
your place. We need to have a minimum number
confirmed for the trip to take place and I am
praying for the maximum number of 30 people since
this makes for the best experience for everyone.
Okay, now let me share with you the final portion
of my three -part interview with Mel K. The only
difference between communism and socialism is
socialism is a slow burn of a of a frog in a
pot boiling water and communism is at the end
of a gun, you know, and and we are at somewhere
in between right now and We are the last stand
for it. So if the American people don't locally
mobilize in every county What do we have like
3 ,700 counties in America? If you had county
by county groups of Liberty minded privacy minded
personal property the government has no business
in America inside my house, inside my private
hive, inside my brain, and inside my data. If
we all stood together behind the Constitution
in our local districts and our local county seats,
this would not work out. They would lose. They
would lose. In the meantime, The American people
are so divided by design. This is this we are
in a color revolution They kicked off the day
Donald Trump became the nominee We are still
in it and the people have not been held accountable
I am very happy to hear about a ground jury But
I've been reporting on this for seven years and
there is so much evidence That they could have
just gone and arrested a whole bunch of people
and they didn't And and there's a I'm not sure
why maybe they did and we don't know about it
at this point But I know that this is on a local
level the same thing that needs we want to happen
in DC needs to happen locally. This is not going
to get fixed in D .C. It's going to get fixed
in your city council, your school board, your
county clerk, your mayor's office. That's where
it gets fixed. And it's accountability. And these
people, we have to remember, everyone puts on
their pants in the morning. Everyone goes to
the bathroom. You know, in the dark, we all look
the same. The bottom line is we are all the same.
Nobody is above us. And these people that have
gone into particularly the infiltration of the
Islam and the Democrat Socialist of America and
and all of this particularly kicked off under
Obama, but now we have them in every town. They
are antithetical. They do not believe in the
Constitution or the Bill of Rights or borders.
You know, George Soros, again, no borders, no
Constitution, no rule of law. total chaos, order
out of chaos. What is the solution? Technocracy
where you have no choices. They're all made for
you. So that's why I wrote the book. That's why
I do my show every day is because, yeah, I want
everyone that was involved with Epstein held
accountable. I mean, it's it's ludicrous that
JP Morgan Chase paid three hundred and sixty
five million dollars to the victims of Jeffrey
Epstein. And they're telling us that there are
no Johns. You know, there are no no one is on
the other side. Like, yeah, you can if they can
find sixteen hundred people that stood outside
of the Capitol without weapons, many of them
praying on January 6, well then they can find
every single transaction that was made at JP
Morgan Chase over 20 years with Jeffrey Epstein
and that's gonna net probably, you know, a couple.
dozen, you know, perpetrators, but they're not
doing that. And I believe that it's all because
of the international banking system. So I think
that that I think all of this is connected. And
it's really about holding on to this post World
War two fraud on the United States of America.
And they've embedded and they've infiltrated
us in every way, shape and form. And if the American
people can get together locally, forget the forget,
even Trump, forget all of that. Just talk about
regular, just God and country and freedom and
liberty and privacy, all the things that mattered,
all the things that those men signed that document
knowing that if they lost, that everything would
be burnt to the ground. What they risked, the
signers of the Declaration of Independence and
the Constitution, we should all be willing to
risk. But all because it's technology. It's not
different. It's still tyranny. It's just tyranny
that once entered into, I don't believe you can
get out of. Absolutely. Now you've spent, I don't
know what, 30 years of your life researching
this and understanding how this all comes together.
And I'm so glad. I mean, I love your show. It's
an OK show. I'll have the emails on my show notes
so that my listeners can find it easily. There'll
be a link. Great. But I also am very glad you've
written your book. Thank you. Because it gives
people time to read and reread, digest. think
about it, discuss it with others on a local level.
It's really much, much needed and I'm going to
do everything possible to help it get into the
hands of at least my listeners. Great and I love
talking to you and I do want to say something
because I found something recently I'm going
to be speaking at the Gateway Pundit event in
Vegas and it's really going to shock people but
we have to start to understand the level to which
the CIA has lied to the people of this country
at the highest level after the murder of JFK
and that the lie never stopped and that a lot
of the people that we are outing now were a long
line of intelligence Agencies that their whole
purpose was to undermine the United States of
America I fully believe this and I have I'm starting
on a new book about 1944 to 1954 when I believe
America was completely and totally put in the
dark about the truth about our country our banking
system particularly and endless wars because
I firmly believe the American people given the
knowledge as I put in my book, but what I'm finding
now is is even worse because I believe that we
have all been looted, lied to. And I'm talking
about trillions of dollars of taxpayer money
has gone missing. OK, overseas. And I believe
that it is still connected. I call it the Fourth
Reich because I don't think people understand
when they say Nazi or Third Reich that it had
to do with international banking, international
business. Wall Street. I mean, when people finally
understand, which I believe they will, particularly
at the dismantling, I hope, of the Fed, how much
the American people and all of our relatives
that died in these wars and what really happened
after World War Two. I just I will end on this.
Chuck Grassley right now is doing a huge investigation
in Switzerland that isn't getting a lot of press.
He's doing it in tandem with Malay of Argentina.
And what he asked Malay for our hundreds of thousands
of documents from Switzerland to Argentina because
it's not a couple Nazis from Operation Paperclip
it was around 12 ,000 that came and that met
some of them sentenced to death at Nuremberg
that instead were funneled their money was funneled
through Switzerland through Argentina and into
America and then into a lot of our college universities
into our jet propulsion lab and NASA I mean there
was a huge deception on the American people and
the what they are doing right now is they are
investigating Credit Suisse in Switzerland, which
was the Nazis' basically Goath bank. So it looks
like in 1944, the international multinational
corporations, the international banks, with the
BIS at the top at the time being run by an American,
McKittridge, and at the time Alan Dulles was
in this OSS creating the CIA in Switzerland as
well, it does appear that America was infiltrated
by the... international organizations that came
out of World War II and that from that day on
we've been paying for the whole thing. I mean,
I really believe that we have been paying for
the UN, the NATO, the World Economic Forum, every
war, the World Bank, IMF. I really believe the
American people have been so lied and looted,
and now we're $37 trillion in debt. You wonder
how. I think that we were set up this way, and
they never thought America would make it past
Hillary Clinton. And Agenda 2030 was to close
the books, wipe it all out. And then move forward
as if that didn't happen. And I think that would
be very empowering if American people start looking
into that. So check out Chuck Grassley's thing.
Because you know what? UBS bought Credit Suisse.
And they said when the Chuck Grassley report
about the rat lines of the Nazis to America after
World War II comes out, that our entire understanding
of post -World War II and World War II itself
will be completely blown apart. And I hope so,
because the American people have to know we're
not in debt, $37 trillion. No, in fact, we were
stolen. Our money was stolen and stolen for things
that we would never have supported and for developing
nations that never develop. And for a small handful,
about 6 ,000, 7 ,000 people worldwide that treat
the planet like they're the parent company. And
8 billion of us are just lucky to live here.
So it's a great time to be alive and to be an
American. And you take this information and you
weaponize it in a way that's going to go towards
positive change with a ripple effect. And every
American citizen can do that. It doesn't matter
if you have a sixth grade education or God forbid,
now if you have a PhD from Harvard, I'm not hiring
you, but whatever you have, it doesn't matter
your education level. What matters is that you
believe in God and freedom and liberty and that
every man deserves to have, to meet their potential,
meritocracy. There's just so much out there and
it's a great time to get together with like -minded
folks that believe in the fundamentals and believe
in humanity. I end my show now with every show
saying stay human because you have to. The battle
is on your brain and you have to control it by
knowing the information and reading it yourself.
And I do want to add on the MelKShow .com I have
a free resource page where I put a lot of the
documents that I'm talking about that you can
look up and read them yourself. And it says right
there what it's about. So yeah. So I want people
to be their own. Take your brain back first and
foremost. Once you do, it will empower you like
people can't even imagine. Absolutely. I can't
think of a better place for us to end this conversation.
But this is not the end of your being part of
this podcast. I hope not. We'll definitely want
to talk soon. OK, great. Thank you so much for
having me. Great time. I'll see you again. Mel
pointed out how dangerously close we've come
to the globalists winning in defeating the United
States of America and other nations too for that
matter with their agenda 2030. She pointed out
how America is the last stand for defeating globalism
and I'm exceedingly grateful that more people
are waking up and becoming engaged in the process
of reclaiming our freedoms and our God -given
rights. may stress the importance of each of
us being engaged locally and in this way creating
a grassroots ground up reclaiming of our governments.
We must do this in all of our nations wherever
we can. Robin Bullock was recently on Elijah
Streams with Steve Schultz. In fact it was August
25th. I want you to watch the entire interview
so I provided you a link in the show notes. But
in keeping with what Mel Kay has just shared,
I have edited down about a five -minute segment
for you to be encouraged by Robin D Bullock.
To set up what you'll hear, Robin and Steve were
referencing Matthew 16 18 which I've taught on
before. But as a refresher, in context Matthew
16 versus 13 to 20, Jesus is speaking to his
disciples, and he asks the question, Who do the
people say the Son of Man is? The term Son of
Man was one of Jesus' most often that he used
of himself. Verse 14 records their response.
Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah,
and others say Jeremiah or one of the prophets.
Now, this is interesting because each of the
named people were already dead, so it seems that
the people considered the prospect of Jesus being
one of them restored to life. Anyway, next we
see that Jesus asked his disciples, But who do
you say I am? And in verse 16, Simon Peter replied,
You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
And in verse 17, Jesus answered, Blessed are
you, Simon Bar -Jonah. Now I want to stop here
and ask you to keep in mind that Simon was his
Aramaic Hebrew name and bar Jonah means son of
Jonah the name of his natural father. Jesus continues,
for flesh and blood has not revealed this to
you but my father who is in heaven. And then
in verse 18 we read Jesus says, and I tell you
you are now Peter which is Greek for rock or
stone. And on this rock, specifically meaning
the revelation God gave Peter that Jesus is the
Christ, he goes on to say, I want to make three
points for clarity. First, up to this point the
disciple we know as Peter was called Simon, who
with this exchange with Jesus is given a new
Greek name, Cephas, which in English is Peter.
The second point, Jesus did not say he would
build his church. He actually used the Greek
word ecclesia, which has a far greater meaning
than the use of our word church today. And he
did not say he would build his ecclesia on Peter,
but rather that he would build it on the rock
of revelation Peter received that Jesus is Lord.
Now with this in mind, please listen to the words
of Robin Bullock as interviewed by Steve Schultz
on Elijah Streams published August 25th. 2025.
He said the gates of hell will not prevail against
the church, but you're right. The church doesn't
exist yet. He's prophesying. He's prophesying
2016 is what he prophesied. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
He, he was prophesying that, that we would have
to fight that. So profits on this side of the
page after the election. We have to remember
something. We absolutely, it was the words of
prophets that broke that, that thing that had
the world, the perception we shattered false
perception, the words of the prophets. It wasn't
us in ourselves that did it. It was the spirit
of God, the Holy ghost speaking through prophets,
prophesying the future. into that present situation
and it broke it all to pieces. And so now Trump
is in and the church has the greatest opportunity
they've ever had to total have total victory.
But here's the thing. The easiest war to fight
is a defensive war. So the church has won. Now
we're in the ground to stand and defend what
we've won. And if the church don't stand up and
defend it, you're on the high ground. Now they
have to come up the hill on the high ground to
take it. If the church don't want to give it
up, we will hold the high ground from here forever.
If we wanted to, because it's the easiest now
we had to climb the hill and take it the first
time and look at all the casualties. But now
we're on the high ground. So we're in the easiest
part of the war as far as defending it we've
ever been. But the hardest part of the war, because
now we're in a psychological war and we never,
we never believed as a whole that it was that
way. No, don't believe in profits. Don't let
profits speak. Don't let this happen. And the
profits are the only one of the five fold that
deals in tomorrow. And if you want to know what's
going to happen tomorrow in government and in
world events, you need to listen to a prophet.
And so in a way, we're in the easiest part of
the war physically. All we have to do is stand
up and speak. And see, we're in the greatest
position to hold the ground we've ever seen.
I mean, we're in the greatest position. We even
have the civil government behind us right now.
We have, we have the right president. We have
the right people in office. We have, and now
the church can rise up and no, wait a minute.
We were never going to act like we did on the
other side of the page. We're going to now act
like what we were called to be. We're going to
stand on the hill. Remember when you've done
all to stand. Stand there for having your loins
girt about and talking about the armor of God.
That's a military term. And it means when you've
taken the hill and you've defeated every devil,
stand ready to defeat the next one that tries
to come at you. So you understand what I mean
about a defensive war is easier. Yeah. You're
defending the high ground, which is the best
ground. So that's the best position. Yeah. You've
already taken it. Yeah. Now, what do we do on
this side? Do we just go back to what we were
doing and just put on our snake skin shoes and
our $5 ,000 suits? And do we just stand around
and say, well, uh, everything's good now, you
know, Trump is president. We're going to just
win, win, win, win. Is that what we're going
to do? Well, that was the attitude that got us
into the other position. So on this side, we
stand on the high ground and say, you never getting
this hill again. You're not going to get this
again. And we stand and we, we, we stand for
each other. We, we, we become the church. We
have to become the church, the, uh, the great
commission church. And we begin to believe in
the miracles. We begin to, we don't coddle sin.
We don't ordain. We don't, we'd never let somebody
do this again. And we just step out there and
start being the church. We're in a good position,
Steve. And we're the first position in how many
years since 2008 since Reagan's day. Yeah. We're
in the first position ever to occupy the high
ground. And here's something prophetically for
everybody here to occupy the hill. I love that
Robin used the term to occupy the hill. Of course
he's referring to Washington DC, but it also
reminds me of a game I used to play as a kid
called King of the Hill. And we're in a very
similar situation. We are in the high ground
now as the Church, as the Ecclesia. As Robin
is pointing out, it's essential we operate as
the Church, the Ecclesia, allowing the five -fold
ministry to operate with the Holy Spirit directing
us. And at the very beginning when Steve Schultz
and Robin Bullock were talking, they were referencing
Matthew chapter 16. And Robin made an excellent
point that when Jesus was speaking to his disciples,
he was not talking about the ecclesia or the
church of that day because it was still being
created. The church was still being created.
Robin believes Jesus was speaking of the ecclesia
or the church of our day, specifically beginning
with the year 2016. Also I encourage you to listen
to my podcast 255 called Advantage Ecclesia which
ran in May of this year where I interview Alex
Newman and I offer the prophecy of Amanda Grace
about the church finally coming to the point
in time where we will see the greater works that
Jesus said we would do after him. It's important
we understand the word Ecclesia because it was
actually unique for Jesus to use even in that
day, although all the people he was speaking
to certainly would have understood it. The word
Ecclesia is Greek and it means a group of people
who are called out, referring to an assembly
of people called together for a purpose. It was
used in ancient Greece to describe a political
assembly that gathered to deliberate and decide
on matters of civil policy playing a significant
role in the democracy of Greek city -states.
By using this particular Greek word, Jesus made
clear he expects his followers not only to share
the gospel, but to be the leading influence over
society, culture, and earthly governments. The
fact our modern -day church has completely disengaged
itself from the realms of politics and government
is precisely why the enemy has been able to nearly
overcome the United States and other nations,
and the reason the globalists have succeeded
to the point they have in other nations of the
world such as Canada, the European Union, and
Australia. As Robin expressed, God has always
raised up prophets whose role has been to confront
secular kings or government leaders who are promoting
agendas contrary to the will of God. Think of
Moses who confronted Pharaoh, or Elijah who confronted
Ahab, or Nathan who confronted David, or Jonah
who confronted the Ninevites. Even Daniel's stance
before King Nebuchadnezzar is consistent with
God's people opposing agendas contrary to the
will of God. These are just five examples and
there are many more in scriptures. As Christians
we all have the ability to prophesy, therefore
collectively we are all called to stand against
any political or government authorities or mandates
that are contrary to the will of God. We are
to be the head and not the tail. If we are honest,
the Church has not been the influencing standard
God intends, which is why we are now faced with
God's powerful intervention and praise God He
is still willing to intervene on our behalf.
While God's intervention will press back evil,
it will also call each of us who belong to Him
into account. The Church today is being firmly
corrected and admonished to take our rightful
place in God's plan. Then, working with God,
we can maintain His standards of righteousness
and governance for the people working in both
our national governments and our international
kingdom government of which Christ is King. I've
been reading Mel Case's book which is excellent
to not only provide us background of the many
ways we got to the point we are in today, but
also to help us understand what we, each one
of us, must do to reverse the evils in our world
with an emphasis on local involvement. Although
if you are being called by God to national government,
such as Grant Abraham is for Canada, then by
all means please obey God. We need people who
will promote law and order. and the righteous
ways of God in all areas of government and in
fact in all of the seven mountains of society.
I highly recommend you get a copy of Mel K's
book and I ask that you use my Amazon link in
the show notes which will provide me a small
affiliate commission while you are also supporting
Mel K by purchasing her book. For next week's
program I'm still seeking to get confirmation
from Prophet Barry Wunsch, known as the Canadian
Hammer. There's so much going on in Canada and
he has said he will be giving me a date very
soon. I also have other ideas for guests specific
to current events and headlines with efforts
on very specific information about the illegal
track and tracing surveillance people of the
world are suffering under today and the very
real rogue realities of artificial intelligence.
I also want to share my considerations about
President Trump calling the National Guards in
Washington DC and other cities in our nation
and what more might actually be being accomplished.
So be sure to listen next week knowing I will
gladly serve you as your faithful advocate helping
you helping me discover and live in life -giving
truth and enjoying all the benefits truth provides.
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