Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith
to Live By. I'm Pam Christian, your host each
week, where I help us explore current events
from a biblical and prophetic perspective so
we, as God's children, can know how he wants
us to respond to see his kingdom will done on
earth as it is in heaven. The preeminent focus
for this podcast is to seek the Lord, to gain
understanding from God, to know what he wants
us to know, concerning his plans for the redemption
and judgment of the world. To know how he wants
us to respond in partnership with him. I've done
considerable study and by way of critical thinking
and objective and verifiable evidence, I have
personally concluded not only does God exist
as the creator of all things, who is only and
ever good and holy, but evil also exists. As
I have also concluded through much study, while
evil exists, it was not created by God. Rather,
it was a choice made by beings whom God created.
All beings whom God has created have been created
with free will choice, allowing them to choose
God and all that is good and leads to life, or
choose evil and all that leads to death. I think
by now the vast majority of the world, even if
they don't consider themselves religious or don't
believe in God, have had to admit we are living
in the midst of a cosmic and epic spiritual battle,
which they must at the very least admit is a
war between good and evil. I sincerely hope they
will listen to many more of my podcasts to explore
their considerations to the full extent of their
logical conclusions. But if at this point they
are at least aware good and evil coexist in this
world, then it's a start for them choosing to
determine if they want to be aligned with all
that is good or be aligned with all that is evil.
I also hope and pray my work will help them realize
there is not middle ground. People either deliberately
choose to be aligned with all that is good or
by default are automatically aligned with all
that is evil. The reason is, all human beings
born into this world since the first man and
woman are naturally born evil. This wasn't God's
original plan. God wanted all human beings to
be pure and holy just as He is, which is how
He created them. However, by way of their own
free will choice, even though they had all the
information of truth they needed, they willingly
chose to reject God. As a result, all people
born ever since are born at enmity with God.
Even so, God loves his created human beings so
much that he has offered a way to be redeemed
and restored into a holy relationship with God
and all that is good and leads to life. And here
again, it's a matter of free will choice. Now,
considering the many different world events that
have occurred recently, I have spent much more
time than usual combing through world news, regional
headlines, and prophetic words in effort to gain
spiritual insight. You know, without the help
from the Holy Spirit, it can seem all that is
going on in the world is a cacophony of unrelated
events. But, gratefully, with a more intentional
pressing in to gain understanding from God, we
can see how He is orchestrating everything to
ultimately produce a harmonious outcome, the
very outcome He has graciously revealed will
come about as God's sovereign plans for this
world and the nations of people are fully lived
out through the end of time. When world events
seem overwhelming, we have to intentionally focus
on the foundations of our faith. Some foundations
are derived from specific Bible verses, whereas
others are concepts derived from several passages
of scripture. I revere the Bible unique in contrast
to all other documents of religious authority,
again based on extensive, objective, verifiable
evidence and not just an emotional reaction or
because of any cultural claims. I share the journey
of studying to learn about the Bible as supremely
unique in my first book from my Faith to Live
by series titled, Examine Your Faith, Finding
Truth in a World of Lies. In addition to exploring
the facts about the Bible, this book provides
a chapter on each of the five major world religions
and one on New Age, allowing the reader to compare
and contrast the different religious beliefs
to decide for themselves which makes the most
sense to believe. One foundation of the Christian
faith allows us to reject any and all forms of
confusion and fear, knowing both come from the
enemy of God, known as the Devil or Satan. This
truth comes from Deuteronomy 3 .16, Isaiah 41
.10, 2 Timothy 1 .7, and 1 Corinthians 14 33.
Another foundation is confidence that what the
enemy means for evil God uses for good. And this
comes from Genesis chapter 50 verse 20 and Romans
8 28 through 30 among other passages. Additionally,
confidence that God never gives us anything that
would harm us comes in part from Matthew chapter
7 verses 7 to 11 and Luke chapter 11 verse 13.
These are just three examples of foundations
or core beliefs we must intentionally focus on,
especially when things seem chaotic. Times such
as these demand we look through the eyes of faith,
relying on the revealed character, will, and
intent of God with patience and long -suffering,
trusting God for the outcome. At times like this,
we can't necessarily make a full and accurate
determination as to the meaning of events without
waiting for more events to unfold. So with today's
program, I will highlight some specific events
sharing what I've learned so far and offering
my take on the issues from the perspective that
we are in the middle. many different matters
being worked out. Our faith in God requires we
remain steadfast regardless of how things may
appear, knowing that Jesus and all who follow
him are already guaranteed the victory and the
devil and all who follow him are guaranteed defeat.
It's that simple. Then, after I consider some
of our headlines today, I want you to meet Jenna
Burgess. She's one of the owners of the Christian
Tour Company I have contracted to coordinate
our Greece tour in April of 2026. I've invited
her to share with you what we can expect as a
participant with the upcoming tour. So, specific
to headlines, I want to start with Israel and
Hamas and the Houthis War and events of the Middle
East that now include President Trump's visit
to the Middle East. and the revelation of foreign
relations with leaders of the Aryan nations.
First, I have always tried to do considerable
research so we are not unwittingly reacting to
propaganda. My regular listeners know I started
this podcast wanting to do the deep dives necessary
to discover truth in light of the extensive lies
and propaganda clearly being perpetuated by mainstream
media beginning with COVID -19, then extending
to many other headlines and issues on the world
stage ever since. One such area of deep dive
has had to do with the Palestinian reality and
the claims of the people known as Palestinians
being quote -unquote exiled from their own homeland
and understanding the radical increase of anti
-Semitism in recent years. If you haven't heard
my series on these issues or if it's time for
you to have a refresher I highly recommend what
I published right after the Hamas October 7th
2023 attack on Israel. My podcast number 172
173 174 175 and 180 in particular, offer extensive
history about the 1948 establishment of Israel
and the occupation of the region known as Palestine
and the Arabs who lived in that region, as well
as events that impacted the people leading up
to today in part through the United Nations.
Events in the Middle East have been contentious
for thousands upon thousands of years. While
attacks and wars in this region may not be surprising,
they are still exceedingly tragic and reveal
the epitome of evil mankind is capable of. Headlines
revealed President Donald Trump recently completed
an unprecedented Gulf tour meeting with several
different Middle East diplomats. According to
the Arab Center Washington DC, President Trump's
three -country trip to the Arabian Gulf Saudi
Arabia Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates resulted
in him signing lucrative arms and business deals
and got commitments from his hosts to make huge
investments in the American economy. Additionally,
the president has authorized direct negotiations
with Iran about its nuclear program, about release
of an American Israel detainee in direct talks
with Hamas, and called for an end to Israel's
war on Gaza. Amir Sarfati from Behold Israel,
who is in a unique position to know about the
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's plans, posted
on May 19th his explanations of President Trump's
visit and more. With this post he stated, quote,
this is breaking news, very important news, maybe
the best news since the October 7th war broke
out, end quote. Then he shared that the Gideon's
chariots operation is underway and explained
that this means the plan of first getting the
entire civilian population of Gaza from the northern
part all the way down to the south part where
the humanitarian zone is that Israel has established
for the American companies to distribute food
medication and all sorts of aid is underway.
Then once the area is cleared Israel will start
its very powerful ground maneuver to destroy
every bit of the Hamas occupation above and below
ground. and prevent them from having any control
of the territory or imposing their tyranny on
the people who lived in that region. He explained
Israel gave Hamas an extension of 24 more hours,
explaining they are prepared to move with the
most powerful ground maneuver ever. Based on
reports, Amir explains Hamas is not interested
in the Wycliffe outline. because they understand
it is causing them more and more loss. Amir is
optimistic that Hamas understands this could
be the right time to negotiate the complete end
to the war. Amir says they are presenting negotiations
wanting the Israelis to allow them safe passage
to leave with their families and they want guarantees
that the Israelis will not kill them. That's
it. They don't care about the Gazans. They don't
care about the children or the elderly in that
area. They care about their own families and
themselves. Then they say they are willing to
disarm. This is huge news. Then on May 20th,
Amir posted another report helping us understand
the rampant disinformation floating around wanting
us to understand President Trump's trip was quite
productive when viewed from the right lens. He
explained fake news reports such as Trump is
about to recognize a Palestinian state or Trump
is frustrated with Netanyahu or Trump is about
to abandon Israel or Trump's negotiation for
the release of prisoners has been done behind
Netanyahu's back or the fact that Trump did not
visit Israel on this trip means Trump is no longer
supportive of Israel and that none of this is
true or hold any concern for Israel. Amir explains
we have to know President Trump secured 5 .1
trillion dollars in investment commitments for
the United States which was President Trump's
focus. Intentionally President Trump did not
talk much about Gaza, he did not talk much about
the Palestinian state, he did not give the Saudis
nuclear agreement, and according to Amir, Trump
did not demand Israel stop the war in Gaza, which
specifically contradicts the Arab Center Washington
DC article that I just shared with you, which
further substantiates the importance of us understanding
we're in the middle, we don't have all the facts,
and we can't yet make an accurate conclusion.
Just the same when you consider the strategic
alliances the globalists have made with their
joint efforts to destroy America and Israel,
you can bet this trip by President Trump has
had the globalists, especially China, beyond
nervous. Add to this what President Trump did
with his two -hour phone call with President
Vladimir Putin of Russia and the globalists are
really shaking in their boots. President Trump
posted that Russia and Ukraine will immediately
start negotiations toward a ceasefire and more
importantly to end that war. Trump expressed
there is unlimited opportunity for Russia and
Ukraine to benefit on trade with the United States,
especially for Ukraine in its efforts to rebuild.
President Trump stated that he had also informed
Ursula von der Leyen, President of European Commission,
President Emmanuel Macron of France, Prime Minister
Giorgia Maloney of Italy, Chancellor Friedrich
Mertz of Germany and President Alexander Stubb
of Finland, accordingly, and stated the Vatican,
as represented by the Pope, has stated it would
be very interested in hosting the negotiations.
End quote. These are just two areas of very good
news that have extensive impact on the whole
world that are also entirely consistent with
prophetic words God has given to reassure us
about what He is doing in our behalf. Through
Robin Bullock, Julie Green, Amanda Grace and
others, God has revealed He has already started
a lot. to deal with our enemies and much more
he will be doing in the days ahead. As Amanda
Grace firmly believes, we will see God's undeniable
intervention through Pentecost and into July,
when we can expect to see an even greater Acts
2 church demonstration worldwide. Through Julie
Green on May 20th, God said, woe to the globalists.
Now, he said a whole lot more, but by him starting
out with just that alone, it's more than enough.
We must not believe that things will be easy
moving ahead. They will not. They will only grow
with intensity. But what will allow us to endure
it all is knowing the promises for the outcome
in a not too distant future. And we must understand
that when things get so much better, we have
reason to actually celebrate. We must remain
sober in our understandings that unless we remain
proactive at all times, even when there's cause
to celebrate, and unless we intentionally push
the enemy back at all times, even when we're
celebrating, he will once again make inroads.
And if we let this happen again, we will not
be able to recover. This is not a prophecy I
make. Rather, I'm repeating a very direct and
somber warning God has given us through different
prophets, including Robin Bullock and Johnny
Inlow. With eager expectations that we will be
celebrating God's victories very soon, I want
to use this time to introduce you to Jenna Burgess
and have you listen to our conversation about
our planned tour in Greece during April of 2026.
I want you to be able to make your plans now
and take advantage of the time between now and
then to save your money and do everything you
need to to be sure you're able to travel with
us. I'll share more specifics about the trip
after the interview, but come now and sit with
us and hear what we have planned with you in
mind. Jenna Burgess, thank you so much for joining
me on this special podcast so we can help my
people know more about what we've got planned
for this upcoming trip to Greece in April of
2026. I am very happy to be here to talk about
Greece. This is my pleasure. Now you are one
of the owners of Four Corners Travel. You are
a travel agency that does a lot with Christian
groups. Tell us a little bit about yourself and
a little bit about your company. And then I want
to ask you some specific questions about the
trip we have planned. I am more than happy to
do that. So our company is Four Corners Travel.
Like we mentioned, it was initially founded by
a husband and wife team who are full -time missionaries.
They work with a mission organization doing businesses
missions and when they were out on the missions
field they realized that there was an opportunity
and in this opportunity they wanted to bring
people to see the world. They had a vision of
bringing people to places like Greece and like
Israel where they could see the Bible come alive
and they decided and prayed about starting a
travel agency. When they did that they brought
in some friends who with different different
business experiences, myself included. I spent
12 years in the hospitality industry in hotels
before I started doing travel planning. And we
have some four of us total who came together
to start this company. We started in 2020, which
is a really great time to start travel planning,
as you can imagine. but have since had the wonderful
opportunity to bring several churches, several
ministries back to Greece and to Israel and to
many other places. So we do focus on working
with churches and ministries for Steps of Paul
tours and Holy Land tours. But the other unique
thing that we do as well is we try to work with
missionaries that are planted in different areas
around Europe and around the world. It tends
to be a lot in Europe. to create tours where
they are planted. So they would see the sites,
they would see the area, and then they would
spend some time with the missionaries learning
what their ministries are and what God has them
doing in that country. Well I know I learned
about your organization through a mutual friend
who has been to Greece several times for that
very reason. She was actually supporting a missionary
and I asked her about Greece and about what she
would recommend. Yours was the company that came
top of mind for her. And so here we are and I
am really excited. In fact originally we had
this trip for the footsteps of Paul, a ground
tour in Greece. We had a plan for October of
2025. But it just seemed it wasn't quite working
as well as we would like it to. So we pushed
it out to April and it really seems like it's
really benefiting a lot more people to push it
out like this. And then you're telling me that
it actually is going to work in our favor because
there's several trips that will have gone ahead
of us. Talk about that a little bit. So we've
been doing Steps at Fall tours now for a few
years since Kind of the world opened back up
again. I think 2022 was our first one. We did
a trip to Greece in November for a marathon and
did a Steps of Paul combo trip. But we have over
the years now fine tuned this trip a bit and
we have created what we think is a really wonderful
tour that really highlights. the actual steps
that the Apostle Paul took when he was there
in Greece. So we had a group that just went this
past March. We have another group that's going
this October and yours will be the third one
doing this particular itinerary. And the itinerary,
I didn't even tell you this yet, but this itinerary
is so good and was so strong that the actual
tour company in Greece that we... work with it
now uses this is going to be using this as their
steps of Paul tour Greece tour moving forward
for other groups as well so it yeah yeah so we
have been working out any of the little kinks
that we have we have a wonderful tour sets and
I think people will just love you know this is
a ground tour we were talking about this a couple
of times over the phone in the past that because
it's ancient terrain, uneven pavement, it really
is not a trip for somebody who is in a wheelchair
or who needs that kind of assistance. Yes, unfortunately,
we would love to be able to do that. The ADA
laws and things that we have here in the United
States just are not as strong in Europe so that
they do not have accessibility, frankly, in some
of these places. You're going to be going to
ancient Corinth and Philippi and there you're
literally going to be walking through ruins.
I would not say that the level is extremely difficult,
but there is walking involved and there is uneven
pavement and uneven sidewalks and areas. And
then if you have the option to even climb on
top of some of these things, which obviously
would not. be easy if you have a disability or
something that would prevent you from doing that.
So I would not recommend this particular tour
for someone who has difficulty walking. But as
I want to share with my audience soon during
this particular time that I'm with you, this
is just the first of a couple of ideas we have
moving forward. I'm going to leave that till
a little bit later, but it could be that one
of our future trips would be better suited for
people who have a handicap or an issue or two
that they need to make certain is accommodated.
Now, there are a lot of reasons that people may
choose not to travel or that they might be wary
of traveling. And I think that you and I have
actually these things. I want to share some of
our thoughts with my listeners right now. So
some of the objections that people might have
specific to travel would certainly be the economy
of it, the financial aspect of travel. Why don't
you address that a little bit for my listeners
please. Oh, absolutely. As I mentioned, we work
directly with a tour company in Greece, and we
have fine -tuned this particular tour and have
worked through the price. In fact, we've gone
back and forth many times to work on the price
of this tour, and I honestly believe it is a
very economical choice. You're going to be staying
in four -star hotels, however, because we are
able to negotiate as a group. price of these
hotels would be lower than if you were to try
to do this on your own, as well as the tour guides
and all the things that are included in this
particular trip. So the price overall is a really
great price for a trip. And if you would go online
to look at some of the major tour companies,
they are often two, even $3 ,000 more per person.
The other thing, and I also didn't mention this,
is we can also set up a payment plan. So if you
wanted to make payments on your trip, that is
absolutely an option as well. Well, that's good
to know. That's not something you and I talked
about before. Now, I know that one of the other
ways we're trying to keep the costs as effective
for everybody as possible is to limiting the
trip to thirty four people maximum. And the more
people we have toward that maximum, the less
the price is per person. Can you talk about that
a little bit? Yes, so we have it. The prices
are tiered. So the more people that we have,
then it will lower the price. So the maximum
that we want, like Pamela said, is 34 people.
But if we end up with only maybe 20 or 24 people,
then the price is the $27 .99. 25 to 29 is an
even lower price. It goes down by $200 or 30
and 34 people. It goes down another $100. And
that's because we have one bus. The ideal is
we want to keep everybody together on a bus.
If we go over that then we're going to have to
go into more vehicles and that you don't have
the same sense of camaraderie and you don't have
the same sense of togetherness and you don't
get to network and talk to people as much. We
really like to keep them fairly small so you
can be together but also if you're able to stay
on one vehicle then that reduces the price as
well because you're splitting it between that
many people versus having to add an extra vehicle.
And there are a lot of things that are already
included. In fact, I would encourage my listeners
to go to my web page beyond the podcast and look
at the specifics. But there are a lot of things
that are already included. You want to talk about
that a little bit? I absolutely can. So this
trip includes your hotel accommodations, your
transfers from the to and from the airport, It
includes tour guides, the buses, it includes
a tour director. So you'll have one main person
who's with you for the whole of the trip in case
you have any specific area, specific questions.
It includes breakfast every day. And then there
are certain days, I think we have three or four
dinners also included in this particular itinerary.
Things that aren't included are lunches and that's
mainly because we're going to be out and about
and you're going to be exploring and it would
be hard to have everyone stop and sit down. So
it may just be easier to grab some delicious
Greek street food. I will talk about food a lot.
The food there was amazing. It doesn't include
tips. It doesn't include airfare. That is a separate
cost. So you will want to make sure that you
have. that and we can we will give you recommendations
on times for airfare as something I can help
you book or you can book on your own if you have
points or if you have preferred airlines but
we'll give you some recommendations on arrival
and departure times but otherwise the majority
of the tour is included. Now you talked about
tips would you have some guidelines for us for
tips because it seems like every country is a
little bit different. Yes and I'll give you some
when we get a little bit more specific ones when
you get a little bit closer because there are
different guidelines for different people on
the trip. The bus driver versus the tour director
would have a different guideline. And I don't
have those off the top of my head right now,
but it's usually around like 5 % of the cost
of the trip. And you can do that a couple different
ways. There can be, you know, we could pull them
early or you could tip individually if you wanted
to do more or less. Either one of those is totally
fine. I would recommend having a little bit of
cash available. The Greece does use euros and
it's very easy to go to your bank before a trip
and get a small amount. I wouldn't recommend
bringing more than two or three hundred euros
just because you don't need to be carrying around
that much cash but just for if you wanted to
tip your drivers and your tour guides or then
also just to have for some street food but most
places they're except credit cards if you wanted
to. shop or Well, I know everybody needs to do
some of their own research because some people
like to use credit cards Some people only want
to use cash So some of these things but you and
I are at least right now are offering some general
guidelines now when it comes to tips You can
give us in advance an estimate budget, right?
Yes Okay, but we'll know before we actually have
to board the flight to go to Athens. We'll know
what our budget should be for tips Correct, and
it will have a recommended guideline, but it
It is up to you if you wanted to do something
additional. All right, now I know that there
are a lot of objections that people have to traveling,
especially traveling abroad. One is time off.
but that's part of the beauty of the fact that
this was moved from October 2025 to April of
2026. You want to address that? Yeah, but you
know, I think everything, the timing for this
is actually working out very much in our favor.
Now we are almost a year out, just shy of a year
out that does give people more time to request
time off from work or to make travel arrangements
or make arrangements for childcare if you're
going to. have kids that are staying at home.
I think it is going to work in our favor, switching
it from October to April, just giving people
a little bit more time to make the necessary
arrangements. You know, another thing that people
are hesitant about when it comes to travel. I
mean, you might be intrigued. You might want
to travel, but there's this fear of the unknown.
There's the fear of the cultural differences.
And I know we can consider language barriers
and even use of visas and passports, ground transportation,
accommodations, safety and security, just the
hassle of travels. I know that you address a
lot of that. And that's part of why I wanted
to go with your company. Yeah, we definitely
do and we try to make a full package so that
people don't have to worry as much about the
smaller things. There are a lot of English speaking
people. First off, I did not encounter a single
restaurant where I was not able to communicate
in English to the wait staff or to some of the
people working there in restaurants or even street
vendors. A lot of it is very highly English speaking.
We also have the tour director there that will
be a resource for you. You will be able to speak
directly to them. If you have questions about
the trip, they're going to give you a lot of
insight about the different areas and different
parts of Greece that we're going to be traveling
to. All right. Well, that sounds good, too. Now,
one of the things I wanted to point out to my
listeners, and I kind of touched on it a minute
ago, is that by signing up now with this Greece
trip, First off, it's not an obligation at this
point. We are ahead of the time that we have
to actually make deposits and where we have to
commit to the hotels and the tour companies and
whatnot that are in Greece. So by signing up
now, you are simply letting us know you're interested
in how many people would be in your party. Then
when we get closer to the time where we actually
have to take deposits, we will contact you and
you will at that point have the first right of
refusal. And at that point, of course, we would
need your deposit. But By signing up now and
also making a commitment to the trip moving forward,
you are also positioning yourself to be able
to receive a return traveler discount for our
future travel excursions, which we are already
planning to be able to go to Israel. The Holy
Land Tour of Israel that we've put together,
we are very excited to start bringing back. So
I believe our first one will be in April of 2026
and so into the future. We're very excited for
that in the future. Yeah, well I'm thinking that
if this Greece trip goes like I'm hoping it will,
like I'm praying it will, that there's going
to be enough interest that we're going to be
able to do maybe the same kind of a trip but
to Israel come April of 2027. Excellent. And
I spoke recently with our contact in Israel who
helps us with creating these tours. And he has
some very interesting, I don't want to give too
much away, but very interesting ideas on how
to see Israel, see the Holy Land, but also to
connect with the people who live there currently
and some of their experiences through the last
few years. Yes, and I think that would be so
rich for us to have a better understanding of
what's happened, especially since the October
7th attack. There's a lot going on. There's a
lot going on. We just see God moving to bring
peace in the Middle East right now. And what
a great time, I think, ahead for us to be able
to travel and visit the Holy Land. Another reason
that I want people to sign up now, not only does
it give us an idea of what we're working with,
but I would like to for those people who are
interested to maybe hold some Zoom meetings with
the potential participants where we could talk
about how to protect yourself against pickpockets,
for example. And this is something that you could
help us with, Jenna, in terms of helping educate
people who maybe have not traveled much before
who would like a little extra information and
education to be able to feel as secure as possible.
Absolutely. We actually recommend doing two Zoom
meetings before the call and you're welcome to
do more if you would like. We like to do one
once we kind of have the initial who is interested
in going list to give people an opportunity to
go through the itinerary to ask questions, to
give tips and tricks, and then And then you also
have, you get to see who else is going on the
trip with you. So that's like the beginning of
starting to build connections. Yeah, absolutely.
We can have a meet and greet ahead of time and
begin to anticipate spending time together in
Athens, Greece, and not just Athens, but we're
also going to Thessaloniki and to Kalambaka,
right? You are. And also one of my favorite places
that you'll be going where I went a couple months
ago was Corinth. So I think Corinth and Delphi
are some other special places that are day trips
that you'll really enjoy. You know, in closing,
Jenna, I know that you have shared with me because
you went on to the Corinth aspect of this trip
and some of the other aspects that we are planning.
Would you share your personal response to what
it was like being right there where the Apostle
Paul actually walked? I would love to. You know,
this Being a travel planner, we do get to go
to some amazing places in the world and seeing
some really beautiful amazing things. But being
a Christian and knowing that the Bible is the
word of God and knowing that the Apostle Paul
was in these places, walking through the ancient
city of Athens, standing on Mars Hill where he
got to meet with the leaders and look out over
the Agora and know that he spoke to the people
of that city to stand in Corinth. You literally
can stand on the Bema where he stood in the center
of ancient Corinth to address the people knowing
that he spoke to them about the resurrection
and about what it is to be a church and all the
different lessons that you can read in the Corinthians.
There's so many I could rattle them off, but
it was such an experience that when you stood
there, you saw that come alive. I can say it
was one of the more touching experiences of my
life and my faith was deepened in a way that
I didn't expect and that was totally new. um
again reading the bible and growing up in church
um you hear and see these things but when you're
actually standing where he stood where the apostle
paul stood and you can see go along his missionary
journey um is a truly touching and incredible
experience that you will not forget I'm sure
of it. I know of what little bit of travel my
husband and I have been able to do. I've had
the same kind of experience. History comes alive.
And you're right. Our faith is deepened in a
way that's unexpected. So I'm hoping that everybody
who has listened to this interview with you have
caught the bug about going with us in April of
2026 for the Footsteps of Paul in Greece, a ground
tour, and that they could take advantage of,
and I just want to put this out there, the optional
cruise of the Greece Islands. Can you talk about
that real quick? Yes. Yes, we haven't talked
about that too much yet. So there is a four night
tour that is leaving out of Athens to the four
night cruise where you will get to see the Greek
islands. You will actually have pulled up the
thing. So I was ready to talk about it. Here
we go. It starts in Athens and goes on to Mykonos.
Mykonos is one of the closer islands to Athens
but it is It feels like you're going into a whole
new world even. So beautiful. If you go to stop
into Turkey and to Kadasi and then there's four,
five more islands that you get to visit. One
of them being Santorini, which was my personal
favorite. If you saw Mamma Mia or it gives you
that vibe. I'm not sure it was actually that
island specifically, but it is the white buildings
with the blue tops and the sea all surrounding.
So you get to go to one, two, three, four, five
Greek islands, and also stop into Turkey. It
is four nights. There are different options available
for stateroom, and that will be on a first come
first serve basis. We do have enough for whoever
would like to join, but not enough of each stateroom.
There's space on the ship, but there will be
a balcony option and interior option, and then
an ocean view, which just has a window. with
the outside. All right. So another incentive
for people to sign up now for the Grease Tour.
Number one, your name is on the list and you'll
have the first right of refusal. Number two,
you'll have a first right of refusal for the
optional Grease Tour. And number three, you will
have a return traveler discount available to
you for our future trips. And I'm really excited
about every single bit of this. I want to thank
you so much, Jenna, for helping us. And I want
to encourage everybody to write me with my email
at faithtoliveby at pamelachristianministries
.com. In the subject line, write Greece. And
in the body of the email, simply write your name
and the number of people in your party, your
contact information. And then when we get closer
to the actual time of needing registrations,
needing deposits, we'll contact you and firm
up as you'd like. Jenna, thank you so much. I
know it's about a year away, but I'm already
excited. So am I. So am I. And before we log
off, hopefully you'll allow me to say quickly,
we also have a team on our Four Corners team
that does individual travel as well. So after
you take a cruise, we would also be able to get
you a return discount for individual travel if
you wanted to take a trip with just your family
or a cruise or something along those lines. That's
good to know. There's all kinds of reasons for
us to join together on this particular trip to
Greece in April of 2026. Thanks so much, Jenna.
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