Greetings, and welcome to this edition of Faith to Live By.
I'm Pam Christian, your host and trusted truth advocate with my efforts to explore
current events from a biblical and prophetic perspective with this weekly podcast.
One of my favorite people in all the world and favorite guest to bring you is Alex Newman.
Today you'll hear part one of my interview with him in which he brings up a matter that
should be major world headlines, but the media has been utterly silent about it.
This is just another evidence of the media being used by the self-appointed elite wanting
all power and control in the world having ownership of the mainstream media.
This provides me even more confirmation that what I'm doing with this weekly podcast is
not only greatly needed, but it's guided and directed by God.
Knowing I'm partnering with God and revealing truth is the least I can do considering all
God has done for me.
Thank you, Heavenly Father.
Thank you, Jesus, and thank you, Holy Spirit.
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Now I want to get right into my interview, Part One, with Alex Newman.
Alex Newman, I thank you for being on the program.
Once again, you're always a wealth of information.
And just before we got started, we were visiting a little bit trying to decide what we're going
to talk about, and I'm fascinated what you brought up about the United Nations.
Everybody's talking about USAID and what President Trump is doing, and those are all very newsworthy
bits of information.
But you brought up something about the United Nations that I think we really ought to unwrap.
Well thank you, Pam.
It's an honor to be here.
I appreciate it so much.
And yeah, I think this should have been front-page news on every newspaper in the entire country.
In fact, in the entire world, should have been headline news on all the networks and
yet not a peep.
So the UN has what they consider to be their supreme court.
They call it the International Court of Justice.
I call it the International Kangaroo Court of Injustice.
But they purport to be the final authority on all matters between sovereign states.
So they very much look at themselves as the supreme court of the world.
And they were asked by the UN General Assembly, which I call the Dictators Club.
Kim Jong-un gets the same vote as the United States gets.
The Mullahs over in Iran get the same vote that the United States gets in this so-called
Parliament of Humanity.
They requested this case at the ICJ at the end of 2023.
The case is actually being brought by a tiny little government that nobody's ever heard
of, Vanuatu.
And they are arguing that CO2 emissions caused climate change and therefore they need to
be declared illegal.
They need to be punished and we need to pay reparations for those CO2 emissions.
And if you look at what these lunatics themselves are saying, they're saying that this is the
most important case in the history of the world, that this is going to clarify the obligations
of governments with respect to climate change and CO2 emissions.
And even recently, Pam, I was at the PACT for the Future UN meeting at UN headquarters
just a few months ago, it was in September of 2024.
All the governments of the world agreed to the PACT of the future, which says right in
there, we agree to be bound by all the decisions and rulings of the International Court of
Justice.
So huge, huge deal.
They are very likely going to claim that international law requires governments to suppress economic
activity that might lead to CO2.
By the way, we exhale CO2.
And meanwhile, you have Donald Trump literally taking a chainsaw to all of this at the international
level, at the federal level.
So this is a significant conflict that's taking shape.
And I think it's very exciting.
I don't know exactly what the world court will rule, but I know the Biden regime, when
they testify to ask for a strong ruling that would target agriculture, transportation,
energy, et cetera.
And so it'll be very interesting to see what the ruling says and it'll be even more interesting
to see what Donald Trump does with it.
Absolutely.
And at this point, what was once termed conspiracy theories have been proven again and again.
And you have been on top of the United Nations for years.
What did you make of the withdrawal from the World Health Organization?
Because I know the WHO and the United Nations work hand in hand.
Yeah, the WHO has actually specialized agency of the UN.
If you think of the UN as a beast, the WHO is one tentacle on this beast.
And Donald Trump just gave it a really nice blow.
And so I think he didn't quite cut it off yet because they're still getting a lot of
money from the Chai comms and the Europeans and all the rest of it.
So it's still there, but it is wounded very significantly in a way that is going to make
it very difficult for the WHO to impose its wickedness on the United States of America,
at least for the next four years.
So that is incredibly encouraging.
That's one of many UN agencies that Trump has already removed us from.
UNRWA, UN Human Rights Council, this is great as well.
I would go one step further than Trump, though.
See, maybe Trump is the moderate, reasonable one here.
I would say forget your diplomatic immunity.
Look what you people did to us during COVID.
You played defense for the mass murdering, commonest Chinese dictatorship.
You encouraged policies that resulted in the killing of millions of innocent human beings
around the world.
You must be held accountable.
And that's going to be much more than just losing your nice budget from U.S. taxpayers.
That's going to be real accountability, very much including being hauled into a court of
law and being forced to answer for these terrible crimes that were committed, not just against
Americans but against people around the world.
Now, when you talk about being hauled into a court of law, you're not talking about being
hauled into what the United Nations fancies themselves to be.
What are you talking about?
Absolutely not.
No, I think they ought to be charged under, we've got a lot of federal laws that would
be appropriate for this.
We've got a lot of state laws that would be appropriate for this.
The Dr. Francis Boyle just passed away, literally less than two weeks ago, one of the top professors
of international law in the world.
I mean, this is a guy who worked in that area his entire career.
He was actually the number one student in international law at Harvard University back
when he was studying international law there at the Harvard College of Law.
And what he told me was he was a key part of writing the UN Biological Weapons Convention.
He actually wrote himself the implementing legislation for that convention in the United
States.
It was passed unanimously by the House and by the Senate, signed into law by George H.W.
Bush.
And he said that under the definitions in those legal instruments, the COVID injection meets
the definition of a bio weapon.
Therefore, anybody who is promoting, injecting, forcibly putting that on people should be
hauled into a federal court for criminal violations of this implementing legislation for the UN
Biological Weapons Convention.
And at the state level, every one of our 50 states has very strong laws punishing and
criminalizing murder, especially mass murder, deception, fraud.
And I could go on and on and on.
I'm sure there are some creative attorneys who could find dozens of statutes that would
be applicable here.
And what the WHO does, like all the other UN agencies, is they say, well, we have diplomatic
immunity.
You can't touch us.
Well, you have diplomatic immunity for doing work in the course of your duties, right?
Unless your duties include mass murder and killing people, I'm sorry, but forget your
diplomatic immunity.
We're going to throw you in jail.
So that's me speaking.
You know, Donald Trump hasn't gone that far.
I hope he will.
But I don't think these guys like Fauci, I don't think they ought to be allowed to just
sail off into the sunset after what they did because that sends a clear message and they
will do it again.
Well, I heard just today that the federal funding for the Fauci Museum is being withdrawn.
Good.
And then another good piece of news is at least 17 state attorneys general that are
right now examining state criminal statutes that they might use against Anthony Fauci.
So yeah, Biden might have given him an illegitimate pardon against federal crimes that he has
committed, but that doesn't stop South Carolina or Idaho or Florida or Oklahoma or Montana
or any of these other states from pressing state criminal charges.
And trust me, there's a lot of nexus with a lot of these states.
So if I was Anthony Fauci, I'd be pretty concerned right now.
He should be pretty concerned right now after what he did to us.
And we've got to keep praying for this because God instituted civil government for the purpose
of punishing evil doers.
If these people aren't evil doers, I don't know what is.
So if government's going to fulfill its divine mandate, it must be going after these people
who've unleashed these horrors against us.
Absolutely.
And I know prophetically, it was another area that I really lean on in getting information
to my audience.
And God has been saying a lot prophetically about what he is doing to make sure justice
is served and his glory will be seen.
Now I want to get back to something because at the end of World War II, there really was
such a thing as an international law and people being held responsible for the crimes against
humanity.
Can you help us understand how that fits into what we're talking about today?
Sure.
So after World War II, they put together the Nuremberg Tribunals where they put some of
these Nazis on trial.
And I think there was good and bad with the Nuremberg Tribunals.
One of my big problems with the Nuremberg Tribunals is that they abandoned centuries
worth of Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence on things like the presumption of innocence and juries
and things like this.
So I have some quibbles with the manner in which they were conducted.
But I think what was important about the Nuremberg Tribunals was it established a clear precedent
that even if you are a government official and even if you are following orders, that
is not a valid excuse for perpetrating horrific crimes against humanity.
I think a modified version of the Nuremberg Tribunals should have been put together after
the fall of the Soviet Union.
The fact that it wasn't is very telling.
Why were all these mass murders, who had the blood of millions of people, allowed to not
just walk scot-free but reinvent themselves as businessman and leader of socialist party?
They should have all been thrown in jail if we were feeling very generous, after of course
a proper trial where they'd be given the opportunity to present evidence in their defense, some
in witnesses, things like this.
And there's a lot of big takeaways from Nuremberg.
Informed consent of course was a huge part of that, some of the experiments that the
National Socialists did in those concentration camps.
Oh, we're just doing science.
No, no, no.
You need informed consent before you do an experiment on an unwilling human subject.
So that has got to be punished.
And also, I think one of the really significant doctrines that came out of that is that we
will not accept the idea that you can just say you were following orders and then get
away scot-free for things.
God gave you a brain, you have individual accountability, and this has been accepted
in the United States for our entire history.
A subordinate officer actually has not just the right to disobey an unconstitutional order
but a duty to do so.
And that applies in every sphere of life.
If you're working for a federal health agency and you're given an unconstitutional order,
yes, it's not the military, but you still have an obligation to say, hey, that's unconstitutional,
I'm not doing it.
And we need to remember that and bring that back to the fore so that we don't have atrocities
like this happen again.
You brought up a really good point.
The people after World War II who were found guilty but were allowed to go back into society,
they essentially committed treason.
And in America, if a public servant commits treason, they cannot go back into public office.
So that's something that I think we really ought to highlight at this time.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there were some other big problems with Nuremberg, too, in that a lot of the criminals
completely escaped justice.
Some of them went to South America.
Some of them were brought to the United States by the US government, by the Central Intelligence
Agency under Operation Paperclip.
And really, when you have been involved in crimes on the level of what we saw in international
socialism, you should not be walking around a free man.
You should not be brought to the United States to work on some secret project just because
you're smart.
Frankly, you have shown that you cannot be trusted and you have forfeited your rights,
your right to freedom, etc., by depriving others of those rights.
And we really do need to go back to accountability.
What happens, and we've seen this so clearly over decades now in the United States, what
happens when you allow criminals to get away with these kinds of crimes is it emboldens
them and it encourages more crime.
When you punish it, and that's one of the reasons God instituted civil government, to
restrain the sinful nature of man.
If you don't show people that there's going to be swift and brutal justice for terrible
crimes, what you're going to get is more terrible crimes.
So God said he instituted civil government to be a terror unto evil.
And when the government is not terrorizing evil, but is rather terrorizing decent honorable
people and promoting evil, we've got a huge, huge problem here.
And the consequences of that are just too horrific to imagine.
Yeah, and I'm very, very grateful as we all are that God is showing up in these days and
he's doing something about all of this.
Now going again to the Nuremberg trials and those criminals who are allowed to go back
into corporate sector and continue on with their work, can't we trace some of those individuals
and their projects to what we've been living through the past four years?
Oh, absolutely.
You know, there is a very clear line from some of the leaders of the Nazi party right
back to some of what's going on today.
And frankly, Pam, this was true the other way too, right?
A lot of people don't realize there's a very significant book that I would recommend to
people.
It was by one of America's greatest historians, Anthony Sutton, who was a historian at Stanford
University.
He wrote a book called Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler.
And what he showed is that even before there was Hitler, there were American eugenicists,
and American mega bankers, and American wackadoodles who believed in the very same thing that the
Nazis later implemented.
In fact, some of it was being implemented in the United States through forcible sterilization
laws and things.
So Adolf Hitler was looking at America and saying, wow, those are good ideas.
If they can do that there, why can't we do that here?
And so when some of these Nazis were punished, why weren't the Americans who were funding
them punished?
Senator Prescott Bush was actually arrested under the Trading with the Enemy Act.
This was a man who was a director at Union Bank of New York.
This was one of the banks that helped finance the Nazis.
The Rockefellers were some of the biggest financiers, not just of the Nazi regime and
the Nazi war machine, but also of the eugenics movement.
And what was incredible is that these same ideas, even after the fall of Nazi Germany,
then went into the United Nations.
You had people like Kurt Wildheim, secretary general of the UN.
This guy was a high-ranking Nazi.
How does a high-ranking Nazi end up running the UN after the UN was ostensibly created
to fight Nazism and imperial Japan?
And there are so many other examples of this.
You look at the guy who ended up in charge of UNESCO, the UN Educational, Scientific,
and Cultural Organization, which is still brainwashing young people today.
The first guy who led it, Julian Huxley, was at the same time the president of the British
Eugenics Society.
Eugenics is the same putrid ideology that was implemented by the Nazis.
And so how can this happen?
So the Nuremberg trials were good in principle.
They were a good idea, but they didn't go nearly far enough.
And by ignoring some of the precious concepts that we have in Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence,
I think we kind of botched it a little bit.
But we can learn from that experience and hopefully do it better the next time around.
Well, you also mentioned informed consent was one of the positives that came out of
the Nuremberg trials.
And that was also violated with the COVID-19 debacle.
Absolutely.
Not by Donald Trump.
I'll remind people.
Donald Trump never forced one person to take those shots.
It was Joe Biden who forced people to take those shots.
It was Joe Biden's administration that forced people to take those shots.
And it was governments around the world under the leadership of the WHO.
So if it was a crime for the Nazis to experiment and to force people to take untested, unwanted
medical treatments, how could it not be a crime to do that in 2020, 2021?
And the answer is, of course, it is still a crime.
Our laws in the United States recognize that.
Laws around the world recognize that.
The precedent at Nuremberg was established and it was very clear.
And so there is a very easy route here for prosecuting some of the people that were involved
with this.
Anthony Fauci, Dr. Tedros Gibrasis, Deborah Birx, these are some of the people who ought
to be at least brought in for questioning under oath for a deposition.
And we can find out who told what to whom, who was giving the orders.
And God is merciful and I believe there can be a place for mercy.
If you want to cooperate with the investigation and you want to explain who was involved in
this stuff.
Maybe there could be a possibility of immunity from prosecution.
This happens all the time when prosecutors are trying to find out who was the top dog.
You give the lower drug dealers immunity.
I think that's a viable possibility.
But we can't just say, oh, well, Joe Biden pardoned everybody.
So we're just going to move on.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
These things have to be sought out and these people have to be prosecuted.
I so appreciate all the knowledge Alex has, the United Nations has, as Alex said, many
tentacles, including the World Health Organization and the United Nations Relief Works Agency
for Palestine, both of which I researched and did several podcasts on in the past.
If you want to know more about the corruption in these areas, you'll find several podcasts
in my lineup.
Alex openly spoke of the COVID-19 jabs being a bio weapon.
No one who took the jab did so with informed consent.
If you or someone you love needs help with your health because of taking the jab, be
sure to see the list of doctors in the permanent show notes.
Many are reporting success helping those who took the jab.
Also as Alex mentioned, do your research to be part of a class action lawsuit to help
hold these criminal people accountable for their wrongdoing.
And the book Alex mentioned by Anthony Sutton, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, is high
lighted for you in the show notes available for purchase through my Amazon affiliate link.
Be sure to return next week to hear part two of my interview with Alex Newman and learn
how former President Obama sold America out and what President Trump has targeted to truly
set nations free from the evil we've been living under for hundreds of years.
We need to keep President Trump and his entire family protected with prayers and we must
continue to pray for the exposure of evil wherever it exists and thank God for administering
his justice.
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