1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,120 Greetings, and welcome to this edition of Faith to Live By. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,620 I'm Pam Christian, your host and trusted truth advocate with my efforts to explore 3 00:00:08,620 --> 00:00:13,800 current events from a biblical and prophetic perspective with this weekly podcast. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,960 One of my favorite people in all the world and favorite guest to bring you is Alex Newman. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,080 Today you'll hear part one of my interview with him in which he brings up a matter that 6 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:28,360 should be major world headlines, but the media has been utterly silent about it. 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,080 This is just another evidence of the media being used by the self-appointed elite wanting 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,800 all power and control in the world having ownership of the mainstream media. 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,140 This provides me even more confirmation that what I'm doing with this weekly podcast is 10 00:00:43,140 --> 00:00:47,680 not only greatly needed, but it's guided and directed by God. 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Knowing I'm partnering with God and revealing truth is the least I can do considering all 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,720 God has done for me. 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Thank you, Heavenly Father. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,040 Thank you, Jesus, and thank you, Holy Spirit. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Before I bring Alex on, I want to share more about the Greece trip we have planned. 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,000 I had several of you who wrote to me in the past indicating you wanted to be on the list 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,920 of those interested in going on our Christian tour of Greece called the Footsteps of Paul. 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,400 Now I have emailed each and every one of you, but I've only heard back from two of you. 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,260 If you expressed interest and you haven't 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the 26th. 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,880 We want between 20 and 34 people, and the more people who sign up, the less the cost 30 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,360 is per person. 31 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,720 This means you want to encourage as many of your friends and family to join us as possible. 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:15,760 As it stands now with a minimum number of people, the tour is $2,699 per person double 33 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:21,120 occupancy and $3,599 per person single occupancy. 34 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Breakfast is included from the 20th through the 26th, and dinner included on the 19th 35 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,400 and the 22nd. 36 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,920 To give you as much leisure time as possible, lunch is yours to do as you like, with some 37 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:36,600 afternoons including tour activity, and others completely up to you. 38 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Registration fees of $300 per person are due at the time of sign up, and registration 39 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,080 is scheduled to close March 31st. 40 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,360 Registration fees are refundable if requested by June 15th and are not refundable after 41 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,360 that date. 42 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Final payment must be made by July 15th. 43 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Now I know you want more details, so I encourage you to visit my webpage called, Beyond the 44 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,000 Podcast, where you can see additional details of the trip and actually sign up to attend. 45 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,080 I hope you don't delay and that you get as many people to join as possible so we can 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,760 all save money. 47 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,920 And as an optional bonus, we are working on the addition of a four-day cruise of the 48 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:14,960 Greek Islands following the ground tour. 49 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Use the link in the show notes to visit the Beyond the Podcast page. 50 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:29,520 Now I want to get right into my interview, Part One, with Alex Newman. 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Alex Newman, I thank you for being on the program. 52 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Once again, you're always a wealth of information. 53 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,360 And just before we got started, we were visiting a little bit trying to decide what we're going 54 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,360 to talk about, and I'm fascinated what you brought up about the United Nations. 55 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Everybody's talking about USAID and what President Trump is doing, and those are all very newsworthy 56 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,880 bits of information. 57 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,560 But you brought up something about the United Nations that I think we really ought to unwrap. 58 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Well thank you, Pam. 59 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,560 It's an honor to be here. 60 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,720 I appreciate it so much. 61 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,520 And yeah, I think this should have been front-page news on every newspaper in the entire country. 62 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,800 In fact, in the entire world, should have been headline news on all the networks and 63 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,160 yet not a peep. 64 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,000 So the UN has what they consider to be their supreme court. 65 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,880 They call it the International Court of Justice. 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,880 I call it the International Kangaroo Court of Injustice. 67 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,800 But they purport to be the final authority on all matters between sovereign states. 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,640 So they very much look at themselves as the supreme court of the world. 69 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,520 And they were asked by the UN General Assembly, which I call the Dictators Club. 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,800 Kim Jong-un gets the same vote as the United States gets. 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,000 The Mullahs over in Iran get the same vote that the United States gets in this so-called 72 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Parliament of Humanity. 73 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,640 They requested this case at the ICJ at the end of 2023. 74 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,040 The case is actually being brought by a tiny little government that nobody's ever heard 75 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,760 of, Vanuatu. 76 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,760 And they are arguing that CO2 emissions caused climate change and therefore they need to 77 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,920 be declared illegal. 78 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,480 They need to be punished and we need to pay reparations for those CO2 emissions. 79 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,240 And if you look at what these lunatics themselves are saying, they're saying that this is the 80 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,320 most important case in the history of the world, that this is going to clarify the obligations 81 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,960 of governments with respect to climate change and CO2 emissions. 82 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,000 And even recently, Pam, I was at the PACT for the Future UN meeting at UN headquarters 83 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,440 just a few months ago, it was in September of 2024. 84 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,080 All the governments of the world agreed to the PACT of the future, which says right in 85 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,760 there, we agree to be bound by all the decisions and rulings of the International Court of 86 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Justice. 87 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 So huge, huge deal. 88 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,800 They are very likely going to claim that international law requires governments to suppress economic 89 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,640 activity that might lead to CO2. 90 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,880 By the way, we exhale CO2. 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,720 And meanwhile, you have Donald Trump literally taking a chainsaw to all of this at the international 92 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,360 level, at the federal level. 93 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,440 So this is a significant conflict that's taking shape. 94 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,160 And I think it's very exciting. 95 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,000 I don't know exactly what the world court will rule, but I know the Biden regime, when 96 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,960 they testify to ask for a strong ruling that would target agriculture, transportation, 97 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,520 energy, et cetera. 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,120 And so it'll be very interesting to see what the ruling says and it'll be even more interesting 99 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,920 to see what Donald Trump does with it. 100 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,920 Absolutely. 101 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,480 And at this point, what was once termed conspiracy theories have been proven again and again. 102 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,840 And you have been on top of the United Nations for years. 103 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,280 What did you make of the withdrawal from the World Health Organization? 104 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,040 Because I know the WHO and the United Nations work hand in hand. 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Yeah, the WHO has actually specialized agency of the UN. 106 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,400 If you think of the UN as a beast, the WHO is one tentacle on this beast. 107 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,240 And Donald Trump just gave it a really nice blow. 108 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,000 And so I think he didn't quite cut it off yet because they're still getting a lot of 109 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,320 money from the Chai comms and the Europeans and all the rest of it. 110 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,960 So it's still there, but it is wounded very significantly in a way that is going to make 111 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,880 it very difficult for the WHO to impose its wickedness on the United States of America, 112 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,160 at least for the next four years. 113 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,440 So that is incredibly encouraging. 114 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,840 That's one of many UN agencies that Trump has already removed us from. 115 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,680 UNRWA, UN Human Rights Council, this is great as well. 116 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,600 I would go one step further than Trump, though. 117 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,200 See, maybe Trump is the moderate, reasonable one here. 118 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,440 I would say forget your diplomatic immunity. 119 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Look what you people did to us during COVID. 120 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,280 You played defense for the mass murdering, commonest Chinese dictatorship. 121 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,800 You encouraged policies that resulted in the killing of millions of innocent human beings 122 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,280 around the world. 123 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,000 You must be held accountable. 124 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,640 And that's going to be much more than just losing your nice budget from U.S. taxpayers. 125 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,240 That's going to be real accountability, very much including being hauled into a court of 126 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,040 law and being forced to answer for these terrible crimes that were committed, not just against 127 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,920 Americans but against people around the world. 128 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Now, when you talk about being hauled into a court of law, you're not talking about being 129 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,040 hauled into what the United Nations fancies themselves to be. 130 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,280 What are you talking about? 131 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Absolutely not. 132 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,440 No, I think they ought to be charged under, we've got a lot of federal laws that would 133 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,440 be appropriate for this. 134 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,720 We've got a lot of state laws that would be appropriate for this. 135 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,560 The Dr. Francis Boyle just passed away, literally less than two weeks ago, one of the top professors 136 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,200 of international law in the world. 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,000 I mean, this is a guy who worked in that area his entire career. 138 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,640 He was actually the number one student in international law at Harvard University back 139 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,440 when he was studying international law there at the Harvard College of Law. 140 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:21,400 And what he told me was he was a key part of writing the UN Biological Weapons Convention. 141 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,200 He actually wrote himself the implementing legislation for that convention in the United 142 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,200 States. 143 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,000 It was passed unanimously by the House and by the Senate, signed into law by George H.W. 144 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,120 Bush. 145 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,360 And he said that under the definitions in those legal instruments, the COVID injection meets 146 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,440 the definition of a bio weapon. 147 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Therefore, anybody who is promoting, injecting, forcibly putting that on people should be 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:50,360 hauled into a federal court for criminal violations of this implementing legislation for the UN 149 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Biological Weapons Convention. 150 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,600 And at the state level, every one of our 50 states has very strong laws punishing and 151 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,320 criminalizing murder, especially mass murder, deception, fraud. 152 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,520 And I could go on and on and on. 153 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,200 I'm sure there are some creative attorneys who could find dozens of statutes that would 154 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,280 be applicable here. 155 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,600 And what the WHO does, like all the other UN agencies, is they say, well, we have diplomatic 156 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,600 immunity. 157 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,600 You can't touch us. 158 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Well, you have diplomatic immunity for doing work in the course of your duties, right? 159 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,080 Unless your duties include mass murder and killing people, I'm sorry, but forget your 160 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,240 diplomatic immunity. 161 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,240 We're going to throw you in jail. 162 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,240 So that's me speaking. 163 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,760 You know, Donald Trump hasn't gone that far. 164 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,960 I hope he will. 165 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,920 But I don't think these guys like Fauci, I don't think they ought to be allowed to just 166 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,280 sail off into the sunset after what they did because that sends a clear message and they 167 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,280 will do it again. 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Well, I heard just today that the federal funding for the Fauci Museum is being withdrawn. 169 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Good. 170 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Good. 171 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,360 And then another good piece of news is at least 17 state attorneys general that are 172 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,680 right now examining state criminal statutes that they might use against Anthony Fauci. 173 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:56,240 So yeah, Biden might have given him an illegitimate pardon against federal crimes that he has 174 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,320 committed, but that doesn't stop South Carolina or Idaho or Florida or Oklahoma or Montana 175 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,080 or any of these other states from pressing state criminal charges. 176 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,680 And trust me, there's a lot of nexus with a lot of these states. 177 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:12,680 So if I was Anthony Fauci, I'd be pretty concerned right now. 178 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,760 He should be pretty concerned right now after what he did to us. 179 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,320 And we've got to keep praying for this because God instituted civil government for the purpose 180 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,880 of punishing evil doers. 181 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,200 If these people aren't evil doers, I don't know what is. 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,160 So if government's going to fulfill its divine mandate, it must be going after these people 183 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 who've unleashed these horrors against us. 184 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:32,560 Absolutely. 185 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,000 And I know prophetically, it was another area that I really lean on in getting information 186 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 to my audience. 187 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,600 And God has been saying a lot prophetically about what he is doing to make sure justice 188 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,600 is served and his glory will be seen. 189 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Now I want to get back to something because at the end of World War II, there really was 190 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,600 such a thing as an international law and people being held responsible for the crimes against 191 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,600 humanity. 192 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Can you help us understand how that fits into what we're talking about today? 193 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Sure. 194 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 So after World War II, they put together the Nuremberg Tribunals where they put some of 195 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,080 these Nazis on trial. 196 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,760 And I think there was good and bad with the Nuremberg Tribunals. 197 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,760 One of my big problems with the Nuremberg Tribunals is that they abandoned centuries 198 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,920 worth of Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence on things like the presumption of innocence and juries 199 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,920 and things like this. 200 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,800 So I have some quibbles with the manner in which they were conducted. 201 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,520 But I think what was important about the Nuremberg Tribunals was it established a clear precedent 202 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,920 that even if you are a government official and even if you are following orders, that 203 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:38,640 is not a valid excuse for perpetrating horrific crimes against humanity. 204 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,560 I think a modified version of the Nuremberg Tribunals should have been put together after 205 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:44,920 the fall of the Soviet Union. 206 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,960 The fact that it wasn't is very telling. 207 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Why were all these mass murders, who had the blood of millions of people, allowed to not 208 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,880 just walk scot-free but reinvent themselves as businessman and leader of socialist party? 209 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,080 They should have all been thrown in jail if we were feeling very generous, after of course 210 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:06,600 a proper trial where they'd be given the opportunity to present evidence in their defense, some 211 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,760 in witnesses, things like this. 212 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,080 And there's a lot of big takeaways from Nuremberg. 213 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,160 Informed consent of course was a huge part of that, some of the experiments that the 214 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,920 National Socialists did in those concentration camps. 215 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Oh, we're just doing science. 216 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,760 No, no, no. 217 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,760 You need informed consent before you do an experiment on an unwilling human subject. 218 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,720 So that has got to be punished. 219 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,720 And also, I think one of the really significant doctrines that came out of that is that we 220 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,200 will not accept the idea that you can just say you were following orders and then get 221 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,440 away scot-free for things. 222 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,960 God gave you a brain, you have individual accountability, and this has been accepted 223 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,560 in the United States for our entire history. 224 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:53,720 A subordinate officer actually has not just the right to disobey an unconstitutional order 225 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,360 but a duty to do so. 226 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,560 And that applies in every sphere of life. 227 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:03,600 If you're working for a federal health agency and you're given an unconstitutional order, 228 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,120 yes, it's not the military, but you still have an obligation to say, hey, that's unconstitutional, 229 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,440 I'm not doing it. 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,540 And we need to remember that and bring that back to the fore so that we don't have atrocities 231 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:16,400 like this happen again. 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,720 You brought up a really good point. 233 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,060 The people after World War II who were found guilty but were allowed to go back into society, 234 00:13:23,060 --> 00:13:25,760 they essentially committed treason. 235 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,980 And in America, if a public servant commits treason, they cannot go back into public office. 236 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:35,560 So that's something that I think we really ought to highlight at this time. 237 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:37,120 Yeah, absolutely. 238 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,600 And there were some other big problems with Nuremberg, too, in that a lot of the criminals 239 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 completely escaped justice. 240 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,120 Some of them went to South America. 241 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Some of them were brought to the United States by the US government, by the Central Intelligence 242 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Agency under Operation Paperclip. 243 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,520 And really, when you have been involved in crimes on the level of what we saw in international 244 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,480 socialism, you should not be walking around a free man. 245 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,360 You should not be brought to the United States to work on some secret project just because 246 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,360 you're smart. 247 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:09,240 Frankly, you have shown that you cannot be trusted and you have forfeited your rights, 248 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,960 your right to freedom, etc., by depriving others of those rights. 249 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,320 And we really do need to go back to accountability. 250 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,240 What happens, and we've seen this so clearly over decades now in the United States, what 251 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:27,000 happens when you allow criminals to get away with these kinds of crimes is it emboldens 252 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,980 them and it encourages more crime. 253 00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:32,960 When you punish it, and that's one of the reasons God instituted civil government, to 254 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 restrain the sinful nature of man. 255 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,480 If you don't show people that there's going to be swift and brutal justice for terrible 256 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,640 crimes, what you're going to get is more terrible crimes. 257 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,640 So God said he instituted civil government to be a terror unto evil. 258 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,480 And when the government is not terrorizing evil, but is rather terrorizing decent honorable 259 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,600 people and promoting evil, we've got a huge, huge problem here. 260 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,640 And the consequences of that are just too horrific to imagine. 261 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,800 Yeah, and I'm very, very grateful as we all are that God is showing up in these days and 262 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,800 he's doing something about all of this. 263 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,200 Now going again to the Nuremberg trials and those criminals who are allowed to go back 264 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:22,080 into corporate sector and continue on with their work, can't we trace some of those individuals 265 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,040 and their projects to what we've been living through the past four years? 266 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Oh, absolutely. 267 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:35,240 You know, there is a very clear line from some of the leaders of the Nazi party right 268 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,720 back to some of what's going on today. 269 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,160 And frankly, Pam, this was true the other way too, right? 270 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,080 A lot of people don't realize there's a very significant book that I would recommend to 271 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,080 people. 272 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,360 It was by one of America's greatest historians, Anthony Sutton, who was a historian at Stanford 273 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,360 University. 274 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,560 He wrote a book called Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler. 275 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,520 And what he showed is that even before there was Hitler, there were American eugenicists, 276 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,600 and American mega bankers, and American wackadoodles who believed in the very same thing that the 277 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Nazis later implemented. 278 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,840 In fact, some of it was being implemented in the United States through forcible sterilization 279 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,840 laws and things. 280 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,240 So Adolf Hitler was looking at America and saying, wow, those are good ideas. 281 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,160 If they can do that there, why can't we do that here? 282 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,360 And so when some of these Nazis were punished, why weren't the Americans who were funding 283 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,360 them punished? 284 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Senator Prescott Bush was actually arrested under the Trading with the Enemy Act. 285 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,080 This was a man who was a director at Union Bank of New York. 286 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,760 This was one of the banks that helped finance the Nazis. 287 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,360 The Rockefellers were some of the biggest financiers, not just of the Nazi regime and 288 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,440 the Nazi war machine, but also of the eugenics movement. 289 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,880 And what was incredible is that these same ideas, even after the fall of Nazi Germany, 290 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,200 then went into the United Nations. 291 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,960 You had people like Kurt Wildheim, secretary general of the UN. 292 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,600 This guy was a high-ranking Nazi. 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,000 How does a high-ranking Nazi end up running the UN after the UN was ostensibly created 294 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,960 to fight Nazism and imperial Japan? 295 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,800 And there are so many other examples of this. 296 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,000 You look at the guy who ended up in charge of UNESCO, the UN Educational, Scientific, 297 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,320 and Cultural Organization, which is still brainwashing young people today. 298 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:14,040 The first guy who led it, Julian Huxley, was at the same time the president of the British 299 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,520 Eugenics Society. 300 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,360 Eugenics is the same putrid ideology that was implemented by the Nazis. 301 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:22,600 And so how can this happen? 302 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,360 So the Nuremberg trials were good in principle. 303 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:28,760 They were a good idea, but they didn't go nearly far enough. 304 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:34,200 And by ignoring some of the precious concepts that we have in Anglo-Saxon jurisprudence, 305 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,120 I think we kind of botched it a little bit. 306 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:42,240 But we can learn from that experience and hopefully do it better the next time around. 307 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Well, you also mentioned informed consent was one of the positives that came out of 308 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,320 the Nuremberg trials. 309 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,600 And that was also violated with the COVID-19 debacle. 310 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,920 Absolutely. 311 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Not by Donald Trump. 312 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,920 I'll remind people. 313 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Donald Trump never forced one person to take those shots. 314 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,960 It was Joe Biden who forced people to take those shots. 315 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:03,080 It was Joe Biden's administration that forced people to take those shots. 316 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,960 And it was governments around the world under the leadership of the WHO. 317 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:13,640 So if it was a crime for the Nazis to experiment and to force people to take untested, unwanted 318 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:20,160 medical treatments, how could it not be a crime to do that in 2020, 2021? 319 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,960 And the answer is, of course, it is still a crime. 320 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,920 Our laws in the United States recognize that. 321 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Laws around the world recognize that. 322 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,620 The precedent at Nuremberg was established and it was very clear. 323 00:18:30,620 --> 00:18:35,680 And so there is a very easy route here for prosecuting some of the people that were involved 324 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,680 with this. 325 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:43,080 Anthony Fauci, Dr. Tedros Gibrasis, Deborah Birx, these are some of the people who ought 326 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,320 to be at least brought in for questioning under oath for a deposition. 327 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,880 And we can find out who told what to whom, who was giving the orders. 328 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,720 And God is merciful and I believe there can be a place for mercy. 329 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,160 If you want to cooperate with the investigation and you want to explain who was involved in 330 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,720 this stuff. 331 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Maybe there could be a possibility of immunity from prosecution. 332 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,880 This happens all the time when prosecutors are trying to find out who was the top dog. 333 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,760 You give the lower drug dealers immunity. 334 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,720 I think that's a viable possibility. 335 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,120 But we can't just say, oh, well, Joe Biden pardoned everybody. 336 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,120 So we're just going to move on. 337 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,640 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 338 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,600 These things have to be sought out and these people have to be prosecuted. 339 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:37,160 I so appreciate all the knowledge Alex has, the United Nations has, as Alex said, many 340 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:42,320 tentacles, including the World Health Organization and the United Nations Relief Works Agency 341 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:47,440 for Palestine, both of which I researched and did several podcasts on in the past. 342 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,520 If you want to know more about the corruption in these areas, you'll find several podcasts 343 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,080 in my lineup. 344 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,280 Alex openly spoke of the COVID-19 jabs being a bio weapon. 345 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,760 No one who took the jab did so with informed consent. 346 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,680 If you or someone you love needs help with your health because of taking the jab, be 347 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,220 sure to see the list of doctors in the permanent show notes. 348 00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:11,760 Many are reporting success helping those who took the jab. 349 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Also as Alex mentioned, do your research to be part of a class action lawsuit to help 350 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,640 hold these criminal people accountable for their wrongdoing. 351 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:27,240 And the book Alex mentioned by Anthony Sutton, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, is high 352 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,560 lighted for you in the show notes available for purchase through my Amazon affiliate link. 353 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,960 Be sure to return next week to hear part two of my 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