Hello, and a sincere welcome to each of you.
I truly appreciate you allowing me to be part of your efforts of discovering truth, growing
deeper in your understanding about God, and learning how to live our lives in ways that
please God.
So, we can live in the victory Christ died to give us while helping other people do the
same.
I'm Pam Christian, your host and Truth Advocate for well over four years now, with this weekly
podcast known as Faith to Live By, where I explore current events from a biblical and
prophetic perspective so we, as God's children, can know how He wants us to respond.
I've had the distinct privilege of meeting extraordinary Godly men and women as my guests,
with today's guests being one of the most popular by far.
Based on the analytics Profit Barry Wunch, known as the Canadian Hammer, attracts the
highest number of listeners, no doubt because he's a proven prophet of God who's been
called by God to speak to the nations, even meeting with high little heads of states,
dignitaries, generals, and more.
I hope you listened to last week's Part 1 of this three-part interview with Barry.
The visions and insights he has received are coming to pass before our very eyes now,
and all signs are that what he expects to occur in the near future is being set in motion
now.
The tone of God's prophetic words now is somber, serious, and must be carefully received.
We are living in a critical time where God is moving in and through His appointed people
to more fully expose evil and corruption wherever it exists for the purpose of God executing
both judgment and justice in ways the world has never seen before.
The Holy Spirit has been revealing parts and pieces of God's plans to all God's children,
including to their specific calling, their role in God's plan.
Each of us must be in prayer as God directs.
We must be in partnership with God if we want to see His kingdom will done on earth as it
is in heaven.
Hearing the different puzzle pieces from various proven prophets allows us to get a fuller
picture of what we must pray about.
Lana Vouser, Amanda Grace, Robin Bullock, Dr. Patricia Green, and Julie Green, plus others,
have each provided us with prophetic words to pray into.
I consider it my honor to research what the trusted prophets are saying in light of current
events and then share with you my assessments and expectations, and I do so with the expectation
that you will take all you hear from me and others and prayerfully consider to conclude
for yourself and then be intentional about all God asks for you to do.
The Bible is clear as believers we are all part of the body of Christ.
We are one body to be guided by the Holy Spirit of God to continue the work of Christ in recognizing,
addressing, and overcoming evil.
Hopefully we have all learned it has been the passive and disengagement of the Church
worldwide that has allowed evil to advance to the degree it has.
However, these are the days God has ordered for his Church to be awakened to the truth
and for us to take our rightful place of authority and power over evil.
These are exceedingly serious days and the most hopeful days the world has seen since
the advent of Jesus Christ.
I find it exceptionally interesting that the crescendo of world events is occurring simultaneous
with the high holy days of the Jewish calendar that began in October and into the Christmas
season and New Year on the Gregorian calendar through January 6 and even through the month
of January itself.
January 6 has traditionally been recognized as the end of the Christmas season celebrated
by different cultures in different ways.
Is it any wonder the enemy of God has always worked to change public focus in these times
from Rassashana through January 6?
Let's consider January 6, 2021 and the dastardly events that occurred on that day with tremendously
dreadful treatment of the people to this very day who the US government wrongly arrested
and incarcerated without upholding their constitutional rights or the due process of law.
Let's continue to pray in agreement with God for his vindication of these precious
people.
It seems we have several reasons to be on high alert from now through January 6 and
even continuing to Inauguration Day plan for January 20.
Amanda Grace, who will be my guest later this month, posted a warning on December 9 for
us to watch January 6, 2025 and carefully pray against the evil government's attempts
to once again cause fear and chaos in an attempt to upend the presidency of Donald Trump before
the Inauguration of January 20.
Barry Wunche also received prophetic warning about January 6 in a word from the Lord originally
released on November 27, 2024, which was posted on Elijah List.
God expressed, the demonically driven deep state was more than prepared to take drastic
actions to stop the January 6, 2025 election certification and President Trump's January
20, 2025 Inauguration.
However, the Lord was going to use the deep state's efforts to expose and overturn their
plans.
So once again we must pray in agreement with the Lord to see his will done.
Regarding the January 6, 2021 Capitol incident, President Trump has been quite vocal about
his plans to address the fate of individuals detained in connection with the incident, many
of whom he and his supporters have described as victims of political persecution.
Trump was unequivocal pledging to act swiftly on day one.
Trump accused the United States government and media of orchestrating a campaign of harassment
and defamation against these individuals.
You'll find a link in the show notes that explains more.
In his first post-election interview with NBC, President Trump told combative hack reporter
Kristen Welker that everybody on the Congressional January 6 committee should go to jail.
Well Liz Cheney had to come out publicly and voice her response to President Trump's
position.
After all, she is among those who suspected of criminal activity.
Trump's statements about the unselect January 6 subcommittee members come as Joe Biden is
reportedly considering preemptive pardons for the Congressional members who perpetrated
a massive fraud on the American public regarding the event surrounding January 6, 2021.
Joe Biden and Democrats set up the committee to push twisted lies about the events that
day and to blame Trump for the violence at the US Capitol, something that now was clearly
the fault of Nancy Pelosi and others.
There are a couple other headlines I'll address after my interview with Barry, but before
I bring Barry on, I want to thank each and every one of you who are praying for our daughter.
The reality from the doctor's perspective is gravely serious.
She is still an ICU and receiving some of the best care available for that my husband
and I are tremendously grateful.
But we are also keenly aware of the many words of prophecy spoken over us and our daughter
and we recognize this battle of several years is the enemy's effort to prevent her from
fulfilling her life's purpose and we know we are not the only one suffering in unprecedented
ways.
We know the enemy is working serious havoc in the lives of many of God's people, most
likely including you and your family.
We must understand this for what it is, a spiritual battle, and we must fight this battle in earnest
prayer believing God, trusting God for his promises, maintaining faith in him that he
will do what he says he will do.
Amen.
Truly, we have been living in a time of global spiritual war with intensity never experienced
before.
This requires God's people to be more courageous, bold, and determined than ever before for
our loved ones and for God's people all around the world in all the nations of the world.
With faith fully expecting God's promises to be radically realized in the weeks and
months to come, I am really looking forward to our planned trip to tour Greece in what
is called the footsteps of Paul in October 2025.
I've sent an email to those of you who expressed interest in knowing more about the trip.
If you haven't seen that email, check your spam box.
Any of you who are interested to learn more about our week-plus tour in Greece, be sure
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With the word Greece in the subject line, and your name, contact information, and the
number that would be in your party if you confirm your place, I should have the specific
details to send in just a few weeks with the initial deposit due around February.
We are limiting the tour to 30 people so you don't want to delay getting your name in.
Sending your name does not obligate you.
It just means that you'll have first right of refusal when it comes time to commit.
I'll repeat some of this information toward the end of this podcast.
Now, let me share with you my interview with Prophet Barry Wunche, where he addresses the
seriousness of our times and how we must be engaged in intercessory prayer in this time
of the calm before the storm.
So we have sat passively, I guess, thinking that we're good little Christians and we're
not to be disturbance, we're not supposed to be, you know, but we've tolerated.
We have not confronted these things because somehow, you know, in our belief system, we've
had a wall put up that keeps the secular from the sacred that you're not supposed to do
these things aren't supposed to, you know, blend.
But the truth of the matter is this, is God has called us actually to disciple nations.
And yes, this means in, you know, in the political mountain, you know, in a mountain of arts
and entertainment into the education into, you know, all these the family mountains into
these places.
And we've abdicated that, you know, I think in some ways, you know, we're all just looking
to be raptured out of here.
And, and, you know, why bother do anything?
And yet my God, you know, the way I see God, he's never run away from a fight in his life,
nor has he lost one.
But he takes men and women.
I mean, he took David.
I mean, he took David out to pick those stones up, you know, and put them in a sling like
David actually had to do something.
And so, you know, I think for, for all of us, you know, there, there were at a point where
we just can't sit around on the couch anymore and, you know, I think we're going to be okay
and somebody else is going to do it.
That's a good exactly, I believe, has gotten us in trouble.
The separation that you mentioned and the apathy from the church, the false doctrine
that rapture is our remedy.
No, God is coming for a bride who's made herself ready, not a bride who's whimpering
and cowering.
So he and I are in complete agreement on that.
And I do believe that that whole rapture mentality is a lie from the pit of hell.
Now before I ask you one important question, I want to ask you specific, you mentioned
a potential global event that could help reset what's going on very specifically in North
America, which would include Canada and the United States.
Is that something that you can articulate a little bit more about?
Some ago I'd seen, you know, an EBS warning.
I think that's emergency broadcast system.
Emergency broadcast system.
You know, in the encounter, I woke up and my phone was, you know, my phone was going
and there had been an event that had happened.
And it was a major attack, actually.
And what it did is it basically triggered, you know, many things kind of sequentially
to start to roll out within the nation and within the nations.
And in fact, just Tuesday of this week, Pam, I woke up at three in the morning and I thought
my phone was going off to an EBS.
It was like so real.
But I'm instantly awake, adrenaline is going and I'm looking for my phone because I hear
it going off.
Find my phone, look at it and there's nothing there, you know.
But I feel that the threats that are against us right now, you know, like I'd mentioned
from, you know, some of these globalist elites are, you know, and then, you know, some of
these nations, they are in fact going to do everything they can to see the plans of God
diminished.
And so we know that, you know, they are not going to succeed.
We know that it's not going to play out as they want it to, that the Lord is sovereign.
But I do believe that it will be used as a measure to kind of shake and wake up, you
know, the nation because, you know, here in Canada, you know, the mass majority of folks,
you know, they're going to Costco, you know, they're getting their RSPs, you know, their
kind of life is normal.
You know, now it's snowing, they're starting to prepare to go sledding and skiing and like
their lives are kind of returned to a normalcy.
But from what I know, prophetically, you know, things the Lord has shown me as well as some
of the intelligence that comes in, because we talk about things like at these phone calls
from different, you know, stuff that is legitimized.
You know, we know that there are several threats that remain over our nation right now and
your nation and ours.
And it is a time to continue in that strategic prayer and fasting that, you know, the enemy's
plans would be defaulted, that they would be inhibited, and that, you know, God's protection
would be upon His people.
You talk about the people in Canada pretty much going about life as usual, preparing
to hunker down with the snow and maybe even the outdoor activities that come along with
the snow and getting ready for Christmas and all the things that people have typically
done, but I am concerned that this is the calm before the storm.
I tell you, I've been in meetings in the last couple of months, you know, public, you know,
you know, worship and different public gatherings.
And honestly, Pam, you know, there's celebration going on and people are worshiping and, you
know, they're having a good time with the Lord, which is great.
And I've felt in a different place.
I've actually felt like Bonhoeffer, you know, who was a German pastor who stood up, you
know, when things were not going well there.
But the sense of like Bonhoeffer, I mean, you go back to those times, there were trains
going behind the churches, you know, full of Jewish prisoners.
And the church was in a bubble, not, you know, too hard to look at, too hard to talk about,
you know, someone else's fight, whatever the excuse was.
And so I've had that feeling here that, you know, we've got these things that are happening
right under our nose.
And actually, some of it's in broad daylight.
And it's hard to talk about.
Absolutely, it's hard to talk about.
But you know, I mean, America, I mean, I know they've had, I think I heard a statistic,
they had 21 million immigrants come into your nation illegally, you know, from Venezuela
and from, you know, just some of these, these nations that, you know, really want to bring,
you know, havoc to, you know, to America.
Well, if you look at Canada, we've had six million within the last few years.
So per capita, our, you know, ratio is much, much greater than what it is in America.
And so, you know, you go to Toronto here and even, you know, a month ago, there were 50,000
Palestinian supporters and Hamas supporters on the streets of Toronto shouting death to
Canada, death to America, death to Israel.
Well, that means death to me, death to the American brothers and sisters and death to
our, our dear, you know, Jewish friends.
And so, you know, and it's uncontested, the police aren't out there enforcing.
I mean, these are, you know, there were bridges that our Canadian flags hung, you know, on
during the, you know, the Freedom Convoy, you know, a few years ago and all the truckers
went, you know, that was a massive movement.
And Canadian patriotism, you know, kind of showed up.
Well now some of those same bridges, they've got Hamas signs or flags, you know, hanging
on them as they're doing some of their demonstrations.
And you know, I mean, this isn't, you know, the violence that comes with it, the, you
know, the raping, the murder, the, like everything that comes with it.
You know, they were out in the Vancouver, there was a group out, saw a video and they
were, they had swords and on their horses riding the streets.
And the intimidation and the threat this is to everyday Canadians.
My goodness, if this doesn't wake us up, I don't know what will.
I think that your analogy of feeling like Bonhoeffer in the midst of what was going
on in the time of Hitler is, is valid.
And I have the same concern, maybe not to the same degree, because I don't have the
prophetic gifting that you have.
But I have had a dream that I've never forgotten where I was walking up a curved kind of mark
white marble stair setting, something that could have been in the Mediterranean.
It was a beautiful setting, but people were actually seated on the steps as I'm walking
by them with their heads in their hands, their forelorn and their apathetic, they're giving
up and I keep saying, come on up higher.
We've got to come up a higher and I'm trying so hard to get people to understand we, we
have to be engaged.
We have to go to the top.
We have to do what God is asking us to do.
And the dream stops there, but this has been a concern of mine that we are in the calm
before the storm and people are not awake enough.
I mean, if you've got flags, terrorist flags hanging from the bridges where you once had
Canadian Patriot flags, that should be enough right there to wake people up to understand
we've got to go about things a little differently than what we are.
So prayer and strategic partnering and fasting is essential right now because many of God's
people still have scales on their eyes.
They're still not awake.
They're still not hearing.
They're not seeing.
Yeah.
And it's a major concern along with things that are a major concern, things are happening
right under our nose that we're really not responding to.
What is your take on what Biden is doing after the November election where President Trump
has been brought in?
Biden is now doing more to encourage the escalation of the war in Ukraine.
It's unheard of in my lifetime that an outgoing president would do such a thing.
What is your take on it?
What I'm seeing and, you know, from the prophetic encounters in which I've had, my thoughts
are this, is that there's a destabilization that they're trying to provoke to bring America
into a third world war and globally into a third world war.
And when that happens, I believe there would be a legislation that would be kicked in that
would more or less freeze the presidential turnover in January to delay that and disrupt
that and so that they could continue to try and, you know, do what they're doing and hide
and cover, steal and pillage and destroy.
And so on the larger picture, you know, I think that that is part of their strategy.
But the other side of it is I do believe that America and I believe that there is a movement
going on behind the scenes in America for the standing up of a republic.
Because Pam, now I'm going to go out on a limb here, but, you know, I was on a briefing
call yesterday with some dear brothers of mine and colleagues from America and one very
high official.
And, you know, we're discussing this.
Now interesting enough, President Trump was elected into, I would say the administration
of a corporation of the United States of America that is bankrupt.
You were disbursed election in 2016.
No, right now.
Right now.
Okay.
So America is actually, it's actually a corporation and just like Canada is a corporation run
by the cabal.
And so they're bankrupt.
We know the Federal Reserve is broke.
We had, you know, we heard there were those that were going to cash in bonds and they
couldn't cash in one because they were broke.
And so my thoughts are this is we've got kind of a something is going on off on another,
you know, off screen is how I'll say that I believe that there's going to be a standing
up of the republic of the United States of America, you know, one people, one blood,
one nation under God.
And so because with what God is turning over and bringing in a convergence of redemption,
we cannot have any part of the old with us.
I mean, you know, that story of a little bit 11, you know, I mean, I mean, well, I mean,
I don't think that we can have any of the old with us.
And I believe that God is, and I believe that there are those that are setting up a republic
and preparing to stand up the republic of the United States of America as it was once
and firstly established.
And, and so that's a bit of a mind bender for people to wrap their head around.
But I think that that's perhaps where this is going.
So here is where I'll end my second of the three part interview with Barry.
You'll want to be sure to hear part three next week.
Let me consider some of what Barry said in light of headline news.
Barry spoke of prophetically seeing a scene where an emergency broadcast system alert
preceded a potential global event.
Could the recent collapse of the Syrian Bashar al-Assad government be the catalyst?
Reports were that opposition fighters in Syria had totally taken over numerous cities in
a highly coordinated offensive and moved to the outskirts of Damascus in their effort
to take out Assad.
President-elect Donald Trump posted, quote, Russia because they are so tied up in Ukraine
seems incapable of stopping this literal march through Syria, a country Russia has protected
for years.
There has never been much of a benefit in Syria for Russia other than to make Obama
look really stupid.
And in any event, Syria is a mess.
But it is not our friend.
And the United States should have nothing to do with it.
This is not our fight.
Let it play out.
Do not get involved.
End quote.
Donald Trump has been clear he wants to put an end to senseless wars and the ongoing war
mongering.
And even before he has officially taken office for his second term, he seems to carry a lot
of influence over other heads of states, as video showed when he was at the reopening
of the Notre Dame Cathedral on December 7th, 2024, based on the way many other world leaders
personally responded to Donald John Trump.
Additionally, President Trump is on record for recently stating there should be a cease
fire in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, while at the same time, the Biden administration
is working hard to use their last 40-some-odd days to complete Biden's priorities.
Even though Ron Paul recently recommended the elimination of all foreign aid, the Biden
administration promised humanitarian aid to be given to Syria along with airstrikes against
ISIS targets and announced aid of $1 billion for Africa, all while Americans devastated
by hurricanes Milton and Helene in the United States continue to severely struggle.
In addition to the collapse of the Syrian government impacting Russia and Ukraine, it
also involves Israel, Turkey, and Iran.
Further, based on Turkey's military firing on the United States-backed Kurdish forces
in northern Syria, how Turkey as a NATO member continues to respond to U.S. forces in that
region could become a source of tension between Turkey and the United States in the weeks
to come.
Alex Newman, a regular and most welcome guest on my show, posted how the deep state destroyed
Syria.
He explained how the Obama administration and other deep state powers teamed up with Al-Qaeda
and other jihadists there, eventually unleashing the Islamic State or ISIS.
Then, under guise of fighting the Islamic threat that the deep state created, the deep state
started arming and training communist terrorist groups seeking to enslave the Kurdish people.
Alex said, quote, the audacity of criticizing Trump for withdrawing U.S. forces boggles
the mind, do not be deceived, end quote.
Barry shared how in the natural he has seen most alarming events in Canada, one being
how the movement of the Canadian patriots of recent years is being displaced by Canadian
illegal immigrants.
Barry saw where 50,000 uncontested Palestine and Hamas activists gathered in Toronto calling
for death to Canada, death to the United States of America, and death to Israel.
He understands the extreme devastation of violence, destruction, rape, and murder that
could result.
And Barry clearly stated is the goal of the deep state to utterly cause the destabilization
of the United States to enact World War III as a global war, while freezing the inauguration
for Donald J. Trump from taking place.
Barry stated Donald Trump's election is in reality to a corporation and not the constitutional
republic of the United States, and how the corporation is bankrupt.
So this will be some of what we talk about next week.
In response to all of this, as God has been instructing us through His prophets, we must
partner with God to thwart the evil plans of the globalists through prayer and worship.
As Barry instructed us, strategic prayer and fasting is essential to inhibit the enemy's
plans.
I will close out this episode by sharing what Barry posted on Elijah List previously mentioned.
Quote, As I was writing this out, the Lord spoke to me and said, Barry, call my people
to prayer, prayer and fasting during this time.
Barry tell my people that this is first and foremost a spiritual battle.
This is not a political battle, it is a spiritual one.
The enemy is intent to kill, steal, and destroy.
He is after the birthright of this nation and the generations to come.
The balance of America is at stake, as are the nations.
Call my people to pray and fast and come against the dark plans of the enemy.
Call my people to worship me and shift the atmosphere over this nation.
Call my people to stand in the light and be the light in dark places.
Tell my people it is time to take it to the public square, break up the fallow ground,
and prepare for the harvest that is at hand.
Barry, tell my people this is a time of strategic, tactical intercession.
This nation shall be built on my foundations, not the foundations of false gods.
Let my people know that I am going to use what the enemy has intended for evil to bring
a great awakening and revival to America the beautiful.
She shall fulfill her destiny.
Hold fast unto me as I am to you, watch and see my redemption flow through this great
land.
There is nothing that will stand in my way to see my people free.
Holy is the word of the Lord."
Next week, Barry will wrap up part three of this interview with me in helping us to know
what God wants us to understand.
So we can partner with him and experience Christ's victory in our own lives and for
the lives of all of our brothers and sisters worldwide as we actually see the miraculous
intervention of God in our behalf.
Then joining me on both Christmas and New Year's Day will be Amanda Grace as we finish
out the calendar year and enter into the Gregorian year 2025.
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