1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,560 Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith to Live By. 2 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:09,360 I'm Pam Christian, your host of this weekly podcast where I seek to help us make sense 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,880 out of current events worldwide from both a biblical and prophetic perspective. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,240 I sincerely appreciate you listening and sharing this podcast, especially in these highly tumultuous 5 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:25,440 times when people everywhere need help seeing God at work and all the increasing evidence 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,000 of evil. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,280 Having started this podcast in 2020 when the tyranny over COVID-19 became apparent, 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,440 I knew this season would come and in fact I predicted it to occur in the fall of this 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,360 year, a time when all hell is literally breaking loose at the same time. 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:48,040 However, and I want you to clearly hear me on this, God has been exceedingly gracious 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,480 with an abundance of prophetic words from different proven prophets and each essentially 12 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:55,920 says the same thing. 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Because God's children we are not to be the least bit fearful in these times. 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,480 God has been perfectly clear things will get far worse before they get better on a global 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,900 scale. 16 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:13,600 We will see and hear of events and situations that we could never imagine as the extent 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,400 of evil is exposed by God so he can then judge evil before our very eyes. 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:25,040 We will learn of evil deeds and the people involved on a world scale which God has said 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,000 would be the greatest the earth has ever experienced. 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,560 God has also said when we see world events escalate in unprecedented ways to know he 21 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,120 is at work on our behalf. 22 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,320 At the same time, God has cautioned us not to be spectators only but to partner with 23 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:44,880 him in the pulling down of strongholds. 24 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Last week Barry Wunch shared prophecy on Elijah's streams that October is going to run hot and 25 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,120 the weight of God's glory will be upon his people. 26 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Prophetically Barry sees Russia, China and the United States highlighted stating it is 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,440 not conflict between East and West but conflict of good and evil. 28 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:11,000 He sees Trudeau, the Clintons, Obama, the WEF, globalist elites and the International Monetary 29 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,840 Fund all being exposed by God. 30 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,720 He cited crimes against humanity, international crime, election interference and acts of war 31 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,960 all being fully exposed with justice being served on all that will make for unprecedented 32 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,240 international headlines. 33 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Julie Green's post of September 26th cited a political shakeup in Canada specifically 34 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,080 calling out Trudeau stating he would be judged for all the crimes he's committed against 35 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,320 his nation. 36 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,240 She also called out Macron and all who are with him and monishing the people of France 37 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,320 to turn back to God if they want to see God heal their land. 38 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:55,160 During these times especially we are to keep our faith on God's word, his promises, and 39 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,880 we must not allow our faith to be moved by what we see or hear. 40 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,260 We must not allow fear to take hold. 41 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:07,400 We will learn of horrendous events and situations but we must not allow fear to have any place 42 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,840 in our lives. 43 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,080 As a practical way to deal with what is ahead, keep yourself immersed in the word of God. 44 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,920 Find scriptures you can remind yourself of each time you are tempted to give in to fear 45 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:21,280 and decree and declare God's promises aloud. 46 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Let my research, prayers and reports through this podcast and my bi-monthly e-news letter 47 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,000 give you the certain and confident hope you need in these times since I share what God 48 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,840 has to say about world events to help you lay hold of God's promises. 49 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,760 By now the whole world must be aware we have been fighting a spiritual battle of good versus 50 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:47,520 evil, God versus Satan, that occurs first in the invisible heavenly realm and then is 51 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,880 played out in this physical realm. 52 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,920 It is a spiritual war with natural consequences. 53 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,920 We are learning about people who have been willingly and knowingly worshiping Satan, who 54 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,640 have been involved in all manner of wickedness especially in governments and the arts slash 55 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:09,600 entertainment industry as evidenced with the recent arrest of Sean Combs known as P. Diddy. 56 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:15,080 This is just the very beginning of an avalanche of incriminating details that will bring down 57 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:21,040 untold numbers of celebrities and top tier governmental leaders. 58 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,320 The timing of P. Diddy's arrest is in my estimation highly strategic. 59 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,800 I believe all events we will see this month and leading up to the 2024 US presidential 60 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,880 election will be highly strategic. 61 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,800 This election unlike any other election in the history of the United States has all the 62 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:45,040 eyes of the world watching because what happens with this election impacts the entire world. 63 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,480 This is one reason I scheduled Stephen Groves who served as President Trump's administration 64 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,480 with several roles and who has been key in the implementation of what's become known 65 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,760 as Project 2025 to be my guest today. 66 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,520 I will bring Steve on in a bid but first I want to impart courage and confidence in 67 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,160 you with the godly perspective of world events that could otherwise be frightening. 68 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,040 I lead with this exhortation. 69 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,960 If you can keep in mind that all world events occurring at this time are under the orchestration 70 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,960 of God for the purposes of rooting up and dealing with evil, you will manage through 71 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,960 these next few weeks and weeks following the election the best way possible. 72 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,800 With that in mind, I first want to highlight current events to help us grow in our understanding 73 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,680 so we can better use God's words to decree and declare His will be done on earth as it 74 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,200 is in heaven. 75 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,880 This is how we partner with God in what He is doing on earth. 76 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,720 A lot has recently occurred in New York City. 77 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Both Julie Green and Amanda Grace have prophetically stated New York City itself is something 78 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,000 God has said would be subject to His justice. 79 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,440 This seems to have begun with the grand jury indictment of Mayor Eric Adams and the New 80 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,600 York judge who committed suicide as the FBI arrived to arrest him and the DOJ's conclusion 81 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:08,520 that Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed 13 women with his attorney fees costing New York taxpayers 82 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:16,720 $25.4 million and counting while Governor Kathy Hochul and Cuomo swat blame for hiring 83 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,000 the alleged Chinese agent to New York government. 84 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Again, this is just the beginning of much to come as God has prophetically called out 85 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:31,920 New York in advance, allowing evil doers opportunity to repent and to make clear those who do not 86 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,560 will reap according to their own choices. 87 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:41,080 September 20th, God spoke through Julie Green stating, My children, something big from Iran, 88 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,000 China and the Ukraine will be allowed to happen by the establishment of the United States 89 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,600 and the pace of evil plots will increase as we get closer to the November election. 90 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,800 But God said, Destruction will be seen against our enemies. 91 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,640 For the more they try against you, the more they will fail farther from their goals. 92 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,120 To Ukraine 93 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,680 I believe the war of Ukraine and Russia has been manufactured by the evil United States 94 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,040 establishment to cover up their evil deeds and that the establishment is working with 95 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,840 those who want a one world government. 96 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:21,280 With this in mind, I found it highly interesting that President Trump met with Ukrainian President 97 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,960 Volodymyr Zelensky in New York City on September 27th. 98 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,360 It begs the question, did Trump meet with Zelensky as a former president or as a current 99 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,920 commander in chief? 100 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Trump has promised to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours if re-elected and after his meeting 101 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,240 with Zelensky, Trump said, quote, We both want to see this end and we both want to see a 102 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,200 fair deal made and it's going to be fair, Trump said. 103 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,480 And I think that'll happen at the right time. 104 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,000 I think it's going to happen. 105 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Zelensky wants it to end and he wants it to end as quickly as possible. 106 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,320 He wants a fair transaction to take place. 107 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,800 To summarize, Trump said he learned a lot, but his viewpoint has not changed. 108 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,640 The fact that Zelensky wants the war to end is highly curious. 109 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Barry Wunch on Elijah's Streams last week shared a vision where he saw NATO essentially 110 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,960 calling Zelensky on the carpet, wanting him to do a deed that was even more dastardly than 111 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,280 what Zelensky thought was right. 112 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,200 In the vision, Barry knew that NATO essentially owned Zelensky so he was expected to carry 113 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,560 out instructions against Russia. 114 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,200 This would force Russia to respond with a heavy strike back, which would bring fear 115 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,040 to the deep state. 116 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Is this prophetic vision part of why Zelensky wants the war to end? 117 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,680 Then, consider what God said through Julie Green, which she shared on September 23rd. 118 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:50,360 She prophetically stated Putin will make an announcement that will destroy the Washington 119 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,960 DC establishment's propaganda and their plans against Russia and the United States. 120 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,640 His announcement reveals foreign leaders who are against the establishment and efforts 121 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,160 by the globalists. 122 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,080 God revealed Putin has the goods that the establishment thought was buried, but the 123 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,280 many skeletons of Washington DC will be revealed as many have been paid by China and other 124 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,480 nations to destroy the United States. 125 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Those who have paid illegal immigrants to be terrorists in the United States will also 126 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,880 be exposed. 127 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,760 God said Putin has the key for victory in the United States and is about to open Pandora's 128 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,680 box to crush the establishment. 129 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:35,320 About China, Julie Green released a word on September 20th that said China will make a 130 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:41,040 move against the establishment to reveal traitors because China wants to weaken the leadership 131 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,720 of the United States to take it over. 132 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,320 But God said China will not get what they want from this style attack because God has 133 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,080 infiltrated them. 134 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,160 On the 26th, God said, globalism is being destroyed now and China would suffer a financial 135 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:02,520 catastrophe and collapse, and China will not regain the power they once had over the nations. 136 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,040 The power of the Red Dragon is being brought to nothing. 137 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,360 God said you will see a great shaking in China politically and financially, and they will 138 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,080 not recover from it. 139 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Then on September 26th, the Epoch Times reported that Chinese financial executives are resigning 140 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,280 in droves. 141 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Could this be evidence of Julie's prophecy for China? 142 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Now on to Iran. 143 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Julie Green prophesied Iran would make a move against the United States, but as they do, 144 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:38,800 unprecedented events would take place in their land that would be biblical and undeniable. 145 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,040 God said Iran will fall and receive a great defeat. 146 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,160 We've recently learned of Iran's plans to assassinate President Trump. 147 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,600 According to the United States officials, Iran wants revenge for the death of Iranian 148 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:57,360 general Soleimani and is targeting Donald Trump and other United States leaders. 149 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:03,520 With that in mind, listen to highlights of reports given by Amir Safadi regarding events 150 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:09,040 involving Iran and Lebanon as Israel fights against Hezbollah terrorist group that is 151 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,160 a proxy for Iran. 152 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Could it be Iran is already suffering unprecedented events? 153 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Amir reported, the Israeli cabinet with President Benjamin Netanyahu agreed on Monday, September 154 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,720 23rd, that they would be as aggressive as needed to put an end to Hezbollah, and they'd 155 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 simply wait for the right moment to strike. 156 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Then on Tuesday, September 24th, the Israeli Defense Force greatly impaired Hezbollah's 157 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:41,040 communications by exploding the pages worn by Hezbollah forces, then the next day, exploding 158 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,760 the radio devices used to communicate with Hezbollah leaders. 159 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:52,440 Amir continues, in a brilliant strategic move on September 26th, Netanyahu flew to New York 160 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,760 to address the United Nations to signal the potential of a ceasefire. 161 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Hezbollah's number one leader, Hassan Nasrallah, along with his top leaders including Iranian 162 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,600 generals were gathered in their main headquarters watching the Israeli news cover Netanyahu's 163 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,760 speech, at which time the IDF sent a massive airstrike to the building where Nasrallah 164 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,720 and his leaders were. 165 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Then the IDF received confirmation that Hassan Nasrallah, along with his number two and number 166 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,720 three leaders and others of high caliber and Iranian generals were in fact killed by their 167 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,920 airstrike. 168 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,400 This of course means Hezbollah has no real leadership now. 169 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Amir stated the response attacks against Israel from Lebanon were very weak, providing more 170 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:39,720 evidence of lack of leadership. 171 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,160 Iran has had a long-standing relationship with Lebanon, particularly through its Shiite 172 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:50,240 community and many Lebanese clerics have ties to Iran either originating from there, receiving 173 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,080 training under Iranians or maintaining strong Iranian connections. 174 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:01,680 In contrast, the vast majority of the Lebanon people do not support the Iran relationship. 175 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:06,840 Amir explained the next phase would include infiltrating Lebanon to destroy their massive 176 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,200 underground bunkers and tunnel systems, destroy Hezbollah's rocket depots, and essentially 177 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,720 free the Lebanon people from the terrorist regime. 178 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Amir asked for prayer for the Lebanon people. 179 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,120 You can see videos of Lebanese people celebrating the success of the IDF on Amir's telegram 180 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,760 page and view the video report that I saw as the source for what I just shared. 181 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:35,000 If Iran wants to continue to lean on proxies, they will be forced to join forces with Turkey 182 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,080 and Russia, which is consistent with the Bible. 183 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,720 But as Amir stated and I agree, the time for that alliance is not now, but for a future 184 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,600 date. 185 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:53,200 I share all of this so that you can recognize in the midst of evil being exposed, God is 186 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,240 working on behalf of his people. 187 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Again, we must remain focused on what God has promised and not the efforts of the enemy. 188 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,880 In addition to what I just shared, there's also the devastating impact of Hurricane Helene 189 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:11,560 over the United States' southeast region, where as of September 29, at least 50 are 190 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,880 reported dead, with millions without power. 191 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,960 All of these horrible events are intended by the enemy of God to distract us from the 192 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:25,640 greater evil they have planned against Donald Trump and the November election. 193 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,200 As I said, the United States election is the most critical of all elections, not only for 194 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,800 the United States, but for the world. 195 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,880 On September 24, through Julie Green, God said, quote, desperation is growing, and the 196 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,360 more the polls turn against the establishment, as they see their puppets that farther and 197 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,680 farther down in popularity, they see the writing on the wall. 198 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,120 No amount of cheating will help them enough this time. 199 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Their target is a downed ballot, if they couldn't get their circus puppet to perform. 200 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,040 The more she malfunctions, the more they will look to other races. 201 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:06,320 My children, take authority over every seat, congressional, Senate, and the presidency. 202 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,120 Take authority over all. 203 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Many of my children only care about winning the presidency when you need to take them 204 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,640 all back. 205 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Don't leave any out for your enemies to steal. 206 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,040 As I've told you before, your enemies are working on stealing the House of Representatives 207 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,040 once again. 208 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,080 They're preparing impeachment, if necessary. 209 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,240 They're looking for more indictments against Donald Trump. 210 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:34,040 And the unthinkable, that is, ending my David's life, which they don't have the power to take. 211 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,520 They're trying so desperately to find anything to incriminate him, to get rid of him by throwing 212 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,840 him in prison and throwing away the keys. 213 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,240 This is part of their plan, and I'm telling you these things so you can tear them apart 214 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,280 with my words and with my authority that you have been given. 215 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Sayeth the Lord, end quote. 216 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,200 In that same word, God speaks about Kamala Harris and how her secrets will be revealed 217 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,200 and destroy her political career, how the fake insurrection of January 6th will have 218 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,160 the truth come out like a flood and more. 219 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Be sure to use the link in the show notes to see the entire video. 220 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,240 Now I know that was a very long but necessary beginning to help us discern the truth in 221 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,080 all the evil we are seeing. 222 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:21,040 I fully expect as the high holy days of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur approach, all matters 223 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:27,560 will intensify, but God has promised us victory, so we need to also consider what we must do 224 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,720 after the election, if an election actually takes place. 225 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:37,040 In any event, God has prophesied we will see Donald Trump restored as president. 226 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,840 All the destructive efforts by the illegitimate Biden-Harris administration will have to be 227 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,160 reversed, meaning Trump and his cabinet will have a lot of work to do, and they will need 228 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,280 the full support of we the people. 229 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,160 One effort that's been underway to support whomever is the next conservative president 230 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,480 is Project 2025. 231 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Now to help us focus forward, please listen to my interview with Stephen Groves from the 232 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Heritage Foundation. 233 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,640 He has a very impressive resume, which I've included in the show notes, and I'm truly 234 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:15,680 honored he would be a guest on my show. 235 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,480 Well Steve Groves, I am honored to have you on my podcast to talk about what I think is 236 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,200 a very, very important topic, Project 2025, and the reason it's so important is because 237 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,320 this particular election, the 2024 election, not just for the president, but for all the 238 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,160 seats in the November election, is critical to the entire world. 239 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,080 This is not just about the United States. 240 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,520 This is about what's going on with the United States and the impact worldwide. 241 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,040 So would you please start us off with some background about Project 2025? 242 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,560 Almost where we are now and what you hope and envision for the future. 243 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,920 Sure thing Pam, and thank you very much for having me on your show. 244 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,880 I'd love to get the word of Project 2025 out to your listeners. 245 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:05,040 The project started here at Heritage a couple of years ago, and the idea was then and continues 246 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:12,680 to be to provide the next conservative president with the greatest amount of support that we 247 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,920 as think tanks and conservative activists can bring. 248 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:26,120 Many of us served, including myself in Trump's administration and in senior capacities, and 249 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:32,320 saw that both the transition period could have been organized and done in a more effective 250 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,520 way. 251 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,960 And also when we got to the end of those four years, there were a bunch of things on our 252 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:44,360 checklist that we didn't get to that we think would be a great agenda for the president 253 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:45,520 in his second term. 254 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:53,240 So Project 2025 was born to come up with conservative policy recommendations, to come up with conservative 255 00:18:53,240 --> 00:19:00,920 personnel that we would recommend that want to serve in the next conservative administration, 256 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,080 and also recommendations for the transition period. 257 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:13,560 That critical about six month period right after the inauguration, where the president 258 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,320 has maximum political capital and has the ability to get lots of things done through executive 259 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,080 orders and to reverse a lot of the things that Biden and Harris have done that have 260 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,160 damaged the country so badly. 261 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Absolutely. 262 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:33,200 So the idea was to form a conservative coalition of groups, and Project 2025 is up to over 263 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:41,240 a hundred groups to put that mission together and coalesce around it and make those recommendations 264 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,520 to the next conservative president. 265 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,560 Has President Trump been involved with the details of Project 2025? 266 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:54,080 No, he hasn't been involved in any aspect of Project 2025. 267 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,760 We knew that he'd be a leading candidate should he decide to run a couple of years ago when 268 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,600 we started the project. 269 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,200 But we also knew that a bunch of other candidates were going to run. 270 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,320 We could tell the Santos was going to run, Nikki Haley was going to run, and several 271 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,320 other conservatives. 272 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:17,640 So the idea was to start the project back before the primary season even began so that 273 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:24,520 we could get these conservative ideas into the mix so that it would be part of the debates 274 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,720 on the debate stage. 275 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,720 So the project was never directed towards President Trump, and he and his campaign have 276 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,600 never been part of the project at all. 277 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,840 He is the person who sets the agenda and will set the agenda as president, and the Republican 278 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:48,440 Party has its own policy menu, which is called the RNC platform. 279 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Project 2025 was completely outside of that process. 280 00:20:52,040 --> 00:21:00,080 There were a bunch of nonprofits and conservative groups and activists who wanted to get together 281 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,960 and put our heads together and come up with the best recommendations for policies that 282 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,960 we could come up with. 283 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,200 This is something I've heard the Democrats and those on the far left talk a lot about. 284 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,160 I've really been surprised because the Democrats have always had their own transition period, 285 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,880 their own transition strategy, but they're very fearful it seems about Project 2025. 286 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,400 Can you shed any light on that? 287 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,400 Sure. 288 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:30,120 I mean, this is Washington, D.C., and there are think tanks on both sides of the ideological 289 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:36,440 spectrum and everywhere in between, and they're all trying to influence national policy. 290 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:42,760 The left has many more organizations than we do, a lot more money than we do, and have 291 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,640 been very effective in doing it year in and year out. 292 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,120 They did it for Clinton, Obama, they did it for Biden. 293 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:56,920 This was our attempt and our effort, and it's our ongoing effort to do it for a conservative 294 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,880 president, and the left should be afraid of what we're doing. 295 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:06,640 The ideas that we're proposing are an absolute destruction of their ideology. 296 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,960 We propose to rein in the federal government. 297 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,360 They want to expand it. 298 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:20,040 We propose to make the executive branch smaller and get rid of misfunctioning organizations 299 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,840 like the Department of Education. 300 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,840 That is poison to them. 301 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:32,080 That is why they hate Project 2025 and try to make it a political liability for a political 302 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,320 candidate, even though it has nothing to do with that political candidate. 303 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,920 The left should be afraid, and they should continue to be afraid because we think that 304 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:46,560 a conservative president is going to win in November and hope to make our recommendations 305 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,560 then. 306 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:53,160 Now, assuming that President Trump does get elected again, and we are able to see the 307 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,440 transition period making use of Project 2025, what do you foresee? 308 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520 What's the future for us? 309 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,000 We're not sure exactly how that's going to work. 310 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:09,320 As I said, President Trump, if elected, sets his own policy and makes his own priorities 311 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:15,560 and will be hiring and deciding the people that will be running his transition and who 312 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,400 will be running the executive branch from cabinet officials all the way down, all we 313 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:28,160 hope to do in Project 2025 is tee up a bunch of ready-made, laid out with implementation 314 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:36,040 plans, conservative ideas everywhere from the environment to education to fiscal policy, 315 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:43,000 to foreign policy, to defense spending, on all the issues that conservatives care about. 316 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,080 The project was geared towards putting together a list of recommendations for the president's 317 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,880 consideration when he wins. 318 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,880 All right. 319 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Now, is there a place that the common person, because this is a government for and by the 320 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,760 people, we need to be informed, is there a place where we the people can go look and 321 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,200 see some of the aspects of Project 2025? 322 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Yes, the entire project is available online. 323 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Project 2025.org is the main landing page, the home page. 324 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,800 If your listeners go there, it's easy to click around and find our main policy book. 325 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,280 It's called Mandate for Leadership. 326 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,920 It's available for free. 327 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,440 You can download it. 328 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,720 You can download the whole 920 pages of it, or if there's just a chapter that you want 329 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:36,120 to read about on health and human services or the Environmental Protection Agency, you 330 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,360 can download just that chapter. 331 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:44,120 You can also search in it if there's a particular issue or term that you're looking for. 332 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,560 The whole thing is transparent and free at Project 2025.org. 333 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:54,040 Now, is there a way for we the people to also contribute our thoughts to be considered with 334 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760 the whole transition period? 335 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,160 Well, the book itself was published last April. 336 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,280 It's another piece of proof about how badly the left is lying about it. 337 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,440 You know, they're saying this is Trump's project, but we published the book, I think, 338 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:14,280 when there was a dozen different Republicans running for office. 339 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,240 The policy ideas that the project have recommended is already baked into the cake. 340 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,280 What listeners can do, however, and this will have to be a particular type of listener, 341 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,840 a listener who's interested in serving in the next conservative administration, is you 342 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:38,120 can go to Project 2025.org and click through to the personnel database. 343 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:44,040 And what that part of the project does is take in your name, you put in your resume, 344 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,920 you put in all the information that you'd like to talk about and where you might want 345 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:57,280 to serve in the executive branch and why and your qualifications to serve the next conservative 346 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,120 president, in this case, President Trump. 347 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:05,080 And those names and resumes are reviewed and vetted. 348 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,120 And part of what the project does is we're going to make personal recommendations to 349 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,120 President Trump when he's reelected. 350 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:18,040 He can take him or leave them, of course, but these will have been people who are conservative. 351 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,000 You know, they're your listeners, so they're likely conservative. 352 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,760 They've been reviewed by us, vetted by us, sometimes interviewed by us. 353 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:31,680 And they can, if they're interested in coming to Washington and serving the president, Project 354 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,200 2025 provides a gateway to help them do that. 355 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,520 I had no idea you had actual road to serve the administration. 356 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,840 I think we've got about 20,000 people in that database now. 357 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,560 You know, the president appoints about 4,000 people as political appointees from the cabinet 358 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,080 level people all the way down to the special assistance to the special assistance, you 359 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800 know, so there's 4,000 of them. 360 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,680 Now those 4,000 are in charge of trying to get control of the rest of this massive federal 361 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,680 bureaucracy. 362 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,600 So it has to be our best and brightest conservatives. 363 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:13,480 The personal database was our effort, again, started two years ago to try to recruit people, 364 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,600 not from just inside the Beltway, but from all around the country to put in their names, 365 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,800 get some skin in the game, you're conservative out in your state, come be a conservative 366 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,320 in Washington, D.C. for four years, and we sure could use the help, you know. 367 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,960 Yeah, and you know, it also gets people that are outside the establishment, which is thrilling. 368 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,960 We need it. 369 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,960 We need it badly, you know. 370 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,960 The British Foundation is a conservative D.C. think tank. 371 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,360 You know, we are part of the establishment in the broadest sense of the term that we 372 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:52,200 live here in D.C. We work here, we operate here, but we also are very open to other ideologies 373 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,840 along the conservative spectrum. 374 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,120 That's what people outside of the Beltway bring to this town, and we don't need less 375 00:27:58,120 --> 00:27:59,120 of it. 376 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,120 We need a lot, lot more of it. 377 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,120 That's fascinating. 378 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,120 Absolutely fascinating. 379 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:06,680 Now, you also mentioned that Project 2025 is really comprised of a lot of different 380 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,680 individuals, a lot of different organizations. 381 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Can you provide us some information about some of these other organizations to help the 382 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,000 listeners really understand the magnitude of the force behind what you're doing? 383 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Right. 384 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:26,160 We have more than 100 organizations from around the D.C. area, but also from around the country, 385 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:34,240 and they range from organizations that advocate a large range of conservative ideas to, let's 386 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:40,240 say, single issue conservative organizations that just advocate on the right to life, for 387 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,240 example. 388 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:47,440 Or they are conservatives who have solutions for energy and the environment. 389 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:54,600 Or they are organizations that specialize in recruiting and training personnel to serve 390 00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:00,000 in conservative organizations like an administration or up on Capitol Hill. 391 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,880 There are conservative legal organizations who represent people in conservative legal 392 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,680 cases. 393 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,760 So you name it, we recruited far and wide. 394 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,880 We wanted to build a very large tent to bring in folks from all across the conservative 395 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,040 spectrum. 396 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:23,120 We've got traditional conservatives, MAGA conservatives, people with libertarian leanings 397 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,880 and everything in between. 398 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:31,760 The idea was to have a big tent conservative group put together this project to make recommendations 399 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,400 to the next conservative president. 400 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Well, from everything I've learned, it sounds like this is the best prepared the conservative 401 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,560 movement has been in trying to transition with a new president. 402 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Would you agree? 403 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,600 I would fully agree with that. 404 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:54,560 And that was the intent of the project from the get go was to generate and build and develop 405 00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:01,200 those very ideas and tools so that when a conservative won the White House again, those 406 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,840 would be at his or her disposal. 407 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,720 And I always have to reiterate that it's going to be the president to make those choices. 408 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Of course, it must be. 409 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,400 But we didn't want to sit idly by for the two years leading up to the election and 410 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,920 wait for a conservative to win and say, oh, by the way, we've got a bunch of great ideas. 411 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 We wanted to start that a couple of years ago. 412 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,200 And that's why we started the project and gathered all of these allies around us. 413 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,040 I think it's fabulous that you have done this. 414 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,520 I am so encouraged. 415 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,640 I think my audience members will also be filled with hope to know that the new president, 416 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,760 hopefully President Trump, can hit the ground running and make some of the changes we need 417 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,760 so swiftly. 418 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Now, in closing, what would you like to say to my audience? 419 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:50,600 First to keep the faith, it's going to be a very tight race right until the end. 420 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,520 It seems every presidential election we've had over the last 20 years has been like the 421 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,400 most important presidential election there is. 422 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,600 I really feel that way at this time around. 423 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:10,560 I really do think that the absolute ineptness of a Harris Wall's presidency could be permanently 424 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,080 damaging to the fabric of our country. 425 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,880 It won't take down the government. 426 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,520 We've got a great constitution. 427 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,960 A constitution left once to change. 428 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,720 We've got a great balance of power, but they want to change that too. 429 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,520 More than ever, we need a conservative to try to write this ship, to bring the economy 430 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400 back around, to work for the American people. 431 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Project 2025 is laser focused on trying to do that. 432 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,160 And so we hope that that's going to happen in November. 433 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,720 I hope everyone won't keep the faith. 434 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,720 Thank you so very much. 435 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,760 And again, I applaud you, the Heritage Foundation, and all the organizations that are involved, 436 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,400 the individuals as well. 437 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,000 And we look forward to see what's going to happen early November. 438 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Thank you so much, Pam. 439 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Thank you for having me on. 440 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,120 I hope that encourages you as much as it does me. 441 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,080 One of the things Steve said that I can't exactly agree with is that the election is 442 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,720 going to be a tight race. 443 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,520 In reality, I don't think it's even close. 444 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Although I know the establishment-controlled media has worked overtime to make us think 445 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,680 so by their reports. 446 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Reports from God, however, completely override anything the media claims. 447 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,800 The work the Heritage Foundation is doing is truly ruffling feathers. 448 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,280 Fox News, which we all know is not a conservative media outlet, has run multiple articles attempting 449 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,680 to smear Project 2025, while at the same time reporting how much the Liberals are afraid 450 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,240 of the conservative proposals. 451 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Democratic politicians have actually launched a stop Project 2025 task force and even set 452 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,400 up a tip line to collect insider information on the Heritage Foundation's activities, 453 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,640 claiming there is a secret part of the agenda pushing a list of executive orders. 454 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,320 If you remember, Project 2025 had a starring role in the Democratic National Convention 455 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,400 referring to the 900-plus page book as the Republican blueprint for a second Trump term. 456 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Frankly, as Steve explained, Project 2025 was created for whomever becomes the next 457 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,360 conservative president. 458 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,080 But the Democrats are running very scared to think not only might Trump take back the 459 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,920 White House, but with conservative support of Project 2025, all of their liberal advances 460 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760 would be reversed. 461 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Kamala Harris's opening remarks during the apparently one and only presidential debate 462 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,040 said, quote, what you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 463 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:41,760 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again, end, 464 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,760 quote. 465 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,240 This is a classic left tactic to bring to light and blame conservatives for actions 466 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,160 they themselves have taken. 467 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,440 The left has always had far better organized efforts planned for the transition period 468 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,920 for their liberal presidents who become elected than a conservatives have ever had. 469 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,200 And since conservatives finally have a comprehensive plan, they want to shut it down. 470 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,800 The Harris campaign and its surrogates have consistently brought up the project in interviews 471 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,880 and speeches. 472 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,960 Trump has been completely honest in his claims he knows nothing about the specific contents 473 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,480 of the project, as my guest Stephen Groves said he was not involved in the creation 474 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,800 of the project. 475 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,760 As a conservative, however, President Trump would be completely aware of the issues important 476 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,200 to conservatives and understands Project 2025 seeks to address these. 477 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,520 However, since some of Trump's former advisors were involved, the left seeks to tie President 478 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,440 Trump to Project 2025 in a negative way. 479 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,800 Quite unfortunately, Trump's campaign team have drunk some of the Kool-Aid the left has 480 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,120 been serving and they have denounced Project 2025 and quite possibly have influenced President 481 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,480 Trump against it. 482 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,120 The Trump campaign actually accused the Heritage Foundation officials of trying to exaggerate 483 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440 their influence over Donald Trump. 484 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,200 If anyone who hears this podcast can get corrected information to President Trump and or his 485 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,760 campaign team about what Project 2025 actually is, we greatly need that. 486 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,600 Another effort by the Heritage Foundation that Steve and I didn't talk about is their 487 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,680 new website created by the conservative think tank that aims to inform Americans about Vice 488 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:26,720 President Kamala Harris's dangerously liberal policy record, as well as a six-figure text 489 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,880 campaign targeting independent voters in key swing states. 490 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,320 Fox News published an article headlined, quote, conservative group registers 50,000 voters 491 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,720 in swing states could change the outcome, end quote. 492 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:45,960 I bet it really irked Fox News to have to report that. 493 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,240 What's ironic is Fox News and the Democratic Party are actually promoting Project 2025 and 494 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:56,600 exposing the liberals while they try to put down Project 2025. 495 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,520 Hopefully by now we have identified the new sources we can trust and those we need to 496 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,920 read or view with a grain of salt. 497 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,000 It is difficult to know truth in these days. 498 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160 That's by design of the enemy. 499 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,360 This is why God has been so gracious to provide us an abundance of prophecies to help us remain 500 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,320 focused on what God says and not be deceived by what the enemy is doing. 501 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,020 In addition, we must each one seek the Lord for His plans for our lives. 502 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:26,800 This is a time of transition not just for the presidency, but for all of God's people 503 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,320 worldwide. 504 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,760 We must never ever again allow the world to get to the point it's in today, and that 505 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,320 requires all God's people everywhere to fulfill their rightful role in God's plan. 506 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,360 And for those of us who live in free countries, such as the United States Constitutional Republic, 507 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,440 we must seek the Lord for our personal involvement in the operations of our government, because 508 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,760 it is to be run for and by we the people. 509 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,680 When we don't hold our representatives accountable to accurately represent us, we set ourselves 510 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,440 up to be tyrannically controlled by a rogue government under the influence of Satan. 511 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,480 We must never let this happen again. 512 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,080 God has heard our prayers. 513 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,640 He has seen our repentance, and He is healing our land all around the globe, but He expects 514 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:18,560 His people to listen and obey Him, to remain in His protection and provision. 515 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,220 Next week and the remaining weeks up to the election, I will continue to help us decipher 516 00:37:22,220 --> 00:37:27,280 current events from God's perspective and help us understand important matters that 517 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,040 impact the election. 518 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,960 I'm pleased to say that Amanda Grace and Alex Newman are confirmed as future guests, and 519 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,880 of course I'll be looking for others who can help us know the truth and experience all 520 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,040 the hope truth provides even in these exceedingly difficult days. 521 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,760 Now I ask you to listen to my announcements and to take advantage of the many goods and 522 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,960 services I bring you in an effort to at least cover the costs of this podcast. 523 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,080 It may seem far off, but most people make plans for a significant vacation about a year 524 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:03,280 in advance, so if you haven't already expressed interest in traveling with us in October 2025, 525 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,760 now is the time to do so. 526 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,040 We want to have about 30 people total because this size group works best for the specific 527 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,840 tour I have in mind. 528 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,640 We'll be walking the footsteps of the Apostle Paul. 529 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,880 I'm using the time between now and February 2025 to determine if we have enough interest, 530 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160 and the trend indicates we definitely should. 531 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,440 We have just about 30 people on the list now, but I'd like to have more because when it 532 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,840 comes to the actual day of making a commitment, things could have changed, and I want to be 533 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,840 able to have at least 30 actually attend the tour. 534 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,200 So if you think you'd like to be part of the Fates Live by Christian tour with me in 535 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,520 Greece during October 2025, now is the time to get your name and number in your party 536 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,520 on the list. 537 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,120 There's no obligation at this point. 538 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120 You're just expressing your interest. 539 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,480 While the specific details are subject to change, as it stands now, the week-long tour 540 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,280 will include four nights at Devani Palace Acropolis Hotel in Athens, which includes breakfast, 541 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,200 one night at Amelia Hotel in Delphi, which includes breakfast, one night at Grand Meteora 542 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:10,720 Hotel in Kalambaka, with breakfast, two nights at Mediterranean Palace Hotel in Thessaloniki, 543 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,440 that includes breakfast, two dinners at local restaurants, tour guide throughout, deluxe 544 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:21,920 coach throughout, admissions to museums and sites, tips to guides, drivers and restaurants, 545 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,160 and all local taxes. 546 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,600 Estimated cost per person double occupancy room is about $3,000. 547 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,760 Please arrange their own air travel to and from the Athens International Airport. 548 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,520 To get your name on the list, send an email to faithtolivby at pamelichristianministries.com 549 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960 with the word Greece in the subject line. 550 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,480 In the body of the email, provide your name, contact information, and number of people you 551 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,160 expect to be in your party. 552 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,400 This will place your name on the interested in attending list, but does not obligate you 553 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,400 in any way. 554 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,680 It merely assures you have first right of refusal come February 2025 when down payments are 555 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,680 due. 556 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,680 If you didn't get the details written down that I just shared, simply visit my Beyond 557 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,600 the Podcast page using the link in the show notes. 558 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,920 If you like what you hear from me with this podcast, I highly recommend my book series, 559 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,480 my award-winning blog, and consider signing up for my certificate course in apologetics. 560 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,400 My aim with that course is to help people learn how not only to use apologetics to share 561 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,760 truth with others, but to help Christian leaders incorporate apologetics into their respective 562 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,880 ministries so more Christians are learning how to share their faith. 563 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,600 You can learn more by using the link in the show notes. 564 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