1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith to Live By, a weekly podcast that explores 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,960 current events from a biblical and prophetic perspective so we, as God's children, can 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,080 know how He wants us to respond. 4 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:22,560 I'm Pam Christian, the researcher, writer, producer, and host of this podcast. 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,440 I have asked many times for you to connect with me on social media because I post daily 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,760 to keep us informed about current events which are happening much more rapidly. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,360 And since Facebook is removing many of my posts, I ask you to connect with me on any 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:42,480 of these – Truth Social, X, formerly Twitter, Gab, and the Bus to Teach neighborhood. 9 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:48,400 I post all the same content on all these platforms, but only Facebook is censoring what I post. 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,840 If we are only connected on Facebook, then you're not going to be getting many of the 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,600 truths that I find because of Facebook's censorship. 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,480 So please make sure we're connected other than Facebook. 13 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,080 Last week I explained I had a couple of guests who had not yet confirmed, so I didn't know 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,000 who would be on today, but I'm really pleased to bring Lee Dundas on as my guest in just 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,000 a bit. 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,440 If you don't know, Lee is a human rights attorney who made headlines in 2020 when she 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,880 used her experience of fighting human trafficking and more in effort to rectify the abuse and 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:25,160 tyrannical control our children were suffering with the lockdowns, school closures, masks, 19 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,840 social distancing, and more. 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,640 She's a fireball and she has a unique and effective way of communicating, which you'll 21 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,640 soon hear. 22 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Lee will be sharing how she and her husband, a chiropractor and his business partner, a 23 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,720 doctor, were successfully treating people with various types of joint pain and loss 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,560 of cartilage in knees, hips, backs, and more, until the federal drug administration decided 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,640 to close down this method of treatment, even though it was essentially non-invasive and 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,300 had little to no downtime for the patients, and it had a very high success rate over long 27 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:56,000 periods of time, unlike traditional surgeries. 28 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Additionally, it was far less expensive for the patients. 29 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Why, you might ask? 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Well, by now you should know the regulatory industries, big pharma, and big medical are 31 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,440 not in business to provide healthcare, but instead sickness care. 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,640 They want to keep people sick and debilitated so they can provide endless treatments and 33 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:18,120 rake in as much money as possible. 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,240 I know that's a broad brush I just used to paint that picture, but we need to know the 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,360 good doctors and healthcare providers are being controlled by regulations and laws that 36 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,600 are entirely based on greed. 37 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,720 I'll bring Leon in just a minute, but first, it's important that we read the headlines 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,880 in light of prophecy to understand our times. 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Last week's podcast titled The Wars Within a War was itself prophetic in that various 40 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,880 wars of evil against good are rapidly intensifying and escalating worldwide. 41 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Additionally, God has been increasing his warning and instructions for his people specific 42 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:58,960 for these days that God refers to as the most unprecedented the world has ever seen. 43 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,760 Through Prophet Julie Green on September 16th, 24, God said, and I loosely quote, 44 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,560 My children, what you are about to see is nothing like has ever been seen before. 45 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,000 There is nothing to compare it to. 46 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,520 These will be extremely tumultuous times. 47 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,360 A time of confusion, not knowing what is real and what is fake. 48 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,560 A time when the war your enemies have put you in will end abruptly. 49 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Your enemies end will be unprecedented and shocking. 50 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,920 The United States government and foreign nations are ready to engage in the war against this 51 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:38,920 nation to put an end to its freedoms and collapse it, to prevent the collapse of the world elites 52 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,040 and their globalist plans and all their agendas. 53 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,920 These foreign nations are willing to attack the United States to stop my David, meaning 54 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Donald Trump, from taking back the presidential seat. 55 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,720 The establishment doesn't want him there and other foreign nations also do not want him 56 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,720 there. 57 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,760 They know he will tear apart their global charade and financial control over the world. 58 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,600 NATO will be decimated. 59 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Bricks will collapse. 60 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,800 The who will be ripped apart. 61 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,760 The W.E.F. will be annihilated and the old guard all over the world will fall apart. 62 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Oh, there's so much more that God said so be sure to use the link in the show notes 63 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,120 to hear it for yourself. 64 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,360 When God reveals his plans to his prophets, it is so the prophets can share with God's 65 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:28,000 people who in turn must go into intercessory prayer and potentially repent, decree and 66 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,480 declare God's perfect will against the enemy, and so on. 67 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,080 Many of God's revealed plans are conditional. 68 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,920 That is, they will come about or they can be stopped based on how the people respond. 69 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,480 Regulations and obedience are essential to see God's perfect will come to pass. 70 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,120 God has told us to be in prayer for President Trump and his family and his true advisors 71 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,440 and counsel. 72 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,320 God has told us to pray for the exposure of all who are working against Trump and this 73 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,840 nation for them to be exposed and held accountable. 74 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:03,080 And clearly our prayers are effective and producing much with evidence of President 75 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,040 Trump once again escaping an assassination attempt. 76 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,680 On September 15th, Ryan Ruff, age 58, was arrested as the suspect in the assassination 77 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,840 attempt against President Trump. 78 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:20,440 Ruff has an extensive criminal record, including crimes of manufacturing weapons of mass destruction 79 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,720 and possessing stolen property. 80 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,160 Motive and or associations of Ruff in attempt to assassinate the president have not been 81 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,520 made known. 82 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Rather than summarize what can be found on trustworthy news sites, I provide you with 83 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,760 some links to read in the show notes. 84 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,800 Both Amanda Grace and Julie Greene had tremendous insight about the many attempts against Donald 85 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,800 Trump and shared what God wants from us in terms of specific prayer and the stand of 86 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:52,520 faith we must take for Donald Trump, his family, and his truthful advisors to be safe and for 87 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,040 our country to be safe. 88 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Be sure to use the link to hear what Amanda had to say about this additional attempt to 89 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,000 assassinate President Trump. 90 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,080 And by all means, listen to the instructions of the Lord. 91 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,280 Pray as God leads, including joining Timothy Dixon's call for all of us to pray at 12 noon 92 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:13,560 wherever we are, and to join in the fast over the Jewish Rosh Hashanah, October 2nd and 93 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,600 4th that Amanda has called. 94 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,320 The assassination attempt immediately overshadowed the reviews of the presidential debate of September 95 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,600 10th, which now is widely known to have been intentionally stacked against President Trump, 96 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,120 with moderators fact-checking his statements only, not keeping the microphones turned off 97 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,520 per the rules, and not pressing Harris for her lack of answering specific questions. 98 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Whether or not the fact Harris and ABC's Lindsay Davis were sorority sisters had any 99 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,800 bearing remains to be known. 100 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Rumors galore have been circulating about Davis and Muir's job security and potentially 101 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,400 being bought by George Soros are part of what makes it difficult to know what is true and 102 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,600 what is fake. 103 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,840 But be certain God will make sure the truth is known. 104 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:01,400 As God has prophetically warned, the deep state establishment is working with the self-appointed 105 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,720 elite who want a one-world order, and they are realizing just how much their plans are 106 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,720 failing. 107 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,440 They are in a panic mode and therefore they are willing to do anything to keep their positions 108 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,320 of power and money. 109 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,240 In addition to escalating events in Israel with a Houthi missile exploding over central 110 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,960 Israel on Friday, September 13th, we are now learning of world leaders seeking to escalate 111 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,560 the Ukraine-Russia war. 112 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:33,400 With all combined, it seems the enemy bent on a one-world government is willing to start 113 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:39,120 World War III with the high likelihood of nuclear weaponry. 114 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Before I share the sequence of events concerning this, remember what God has promised and be 115 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,040 determined to stay steely focused on God's word, praying and decreeing God's will to 116 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,560 be done with confidence of the victory promised. 117 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Where God has told us things would look far worse as he moves within his timeline, he 118 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,920 has told us it would be much more difficult to walk by faith than ever in these days ahead. 119 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,880 But he's also told us to know things are not as they appear. 120 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:11,640 So no matter how impossible world events seem, stand firm in your faith on what God has said 121 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,280 and do not react to what you see or hear. 122 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:21,520 In panic mode, seeking to unveil the greatest control over the people of the world possible, 123 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,920 the deep state-Biden regime in alliance with proponents for a one-world government announced 124 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:33,280 its intent on providing thousands of long-range, highly precise missiles to Ukraine for them 125 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,840 to use in their war with Russia. 126 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky petitioned the leaders for permission to use missiles 127 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,760 provided by the United States and Britain to strike targets farther inside Russia than 128 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,560 previously approved. 129 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:53,120 In America, Democratic and Republican lawmakers have also called on President Joe Biden to 130 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,920 lift restrictions preventing Ukraine from launching missiles deep into enemy territory. 131 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Polish Foreign Minister Radislav Sikorsky on Thursday said the West should lift restrictions, 132 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,680 and Biden was scheduled to meet with British Prime Minister Kier Starmor on September 13, 133 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:16,560 2024 to discuss a range of international issues including lifting the ban for Ukraine. 134 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,800 Additionally, NATO, who has actually been a proxy for Ukraine, is signaling approval. 135 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,880 This means if this plan moves forward, Ukraine, NATO, the United States, and some European 136 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,800 countries would officially be at war with Russia. 137 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,440 Keep in mind, Russia has nuclear capabilities. 138 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Here's a clip from Infowars with Alex Jones, where Jack Spasovia responds to previous warnings. 139 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:48,360 Well, I don't think it's a bluff at all, Alex, and in fact, I think it's actually a warning 140 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:55,180 in many cases to say, we are willing to blow up the world in order to stay in power. 141 00:09:55,180 --> 00:09:58,540 Because they understand if Donald Trump takes office again, and he looks like he's very 142 00:09:58,540 --> 00:10:02,840 close to being able to do so, they understand that they are a cornered regime. 143 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 They are a cornered wild animal. 144 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,840 As Steve Bannon likes to say, this is the primal scream of a dying regime. 145 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,480 It is this globalist regime that is dying. 146 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:18,160 They are withering on the vine right now, and they are lashing out in every direction. 147 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:28,080 Because they see Donald Trump and Trump supporters and Russia and Viktor Orban and all of these 148 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,960 various things as threats to them. 149 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,720 And so because they see them as threats to them, they don't view a foreign threat or 150 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:40,080 a domestic threat as separately, they view it equally as a threat to their regime. 151 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:45,640 So if you're someone out there who says, oh, I don't like the tweets of Donald Trump, and 152 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,120 I don't like his hair, and I don't like his skin is too orange for me or something like 153 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,720 this, okay, all right, fine. 154 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,200 Do you like nuclear war? 155 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,920 Do you like nuclear annihilation? 156 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Do you like seeing your children's incinerated skeletons in front of you in a nuclear holocaust? 157 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Well, if you don't like that, then maybe you should actually pay attention to the fact 158 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,600 that you got the British meeting in the US right now in the US capital. 159 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,240 You got long range weapons that are sitting right there, and you've got the Russian state 160 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:16,040 telling you directly that if these things are done, then we will move to the next phase. 161 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Because Lavrov has said it, Putin has said it, that we do not have any interest in a 162 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,560 world without Russia in it. 163 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:27,160 They will pull that button, and there's no question they will do so. 164 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,640 They are tempted to show Zelensky this all the way back in February of 22. 165 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,360 They were going to have a peace deal back in March, but who was it? 166 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,360 It was the West. 167 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,160 It was the British powers who decided to blow up that peace deal and continue on and on and 168 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,160 on. 169 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Again, I urge you to filter everything the enemy is doing through the word of God, and 170 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:03,120 for you to decree and declare God's word and promises over everything the enemy does. 171 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,800 These next few weeks leading up to and including the election, I expect all matters to accelerate 172 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:14,640 for unimaginable evil and corruption to be unleashed, but I believe God wants the world 173 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:21,000 to see the extent of evil to cause each individual to make a deliberate choice with whom and 174 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,080 what they want to be aligned. 175 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Even in the midst of the greatest exposure of evil the world has ever seen, God is also 176 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,120 working to reveal good and give us glimpses of what our future days will be like. 177 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:40,760 With my guest, Lee Dundas, I want to consider the many medical and health breakthroughs God 178 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,200 has planned for the people of the world. 179 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,240 It's been prophesied that with the new medical and health treatments that are going to come 180 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,400 on the scene, we will experience reversal of aging and people will be living well past 181 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,160 their hundredth birthday, and with all the glory days God has revealed through his prophets 182 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,000 that are ahead for us, we will very much want to live longer, healthier lives in a reclaimed 183 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,480 world where evil is not dominant. 184 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,580 Based on what I've learned from Lee Dundas, she and her husband are once again in a position 185 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:16,200 to be able to bring us some amazing medical and health treatments that traditional medicine 186 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,760 controlled by greed have been keeping from us. 187 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,960 If you or anyone you know is plagued by joint pain of any sort, if you've been told by 188 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,920 doctors that you need back surgery to get relief from spinal pain, please make a point 189 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,680 of carefully hearing what my guest, Lee Dundas, has to share. 190 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,720 Lee has a very impressive resume with all the work for justice she has fought for the 191 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,440 past three decades. 192 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,900 I don't want to short you on knowing all about her, so be sure to use the link in the 193 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:48,400 show notes where you can learn more about Lee and the treatments she'll be talking about. 194 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Here's my interview with Lee. 195 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,680 Lee Dundas, I am so delighted to have you on my program and have the chance to introduce 196 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,880 you to some people who may not know about you. 197 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,320 Of course, I first met you at the Reawaken America Tour in Anaheim, which I think was 198 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,840 about three years ago, and there you were really highlighting your work as a human rights 199 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,120 attorney and a freedom fighter, a patriot freedom fighter. 200 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,960 But as I've talked to you recently, I've learned that you and your husband are involved 201 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,680 with some fascinating treatments that can really bring people a lot of health benefit, 202 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:22,160 and that's what I want to focus on today, because everybody around the world wants good 203 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,160 health. 204 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,320 This is a fascinating treatment. 205 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,360 You call it the amniotic stem cell treatment, and I would just like you to tell my audience 206 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,160 all about it, how it started, where you are now, and what you plan to do with it. 207 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Absolutely. 208 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,040 Well, again, thanks so much for having me today, Pam. 209 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,120 It's really an honor to be here with you, and it feels like only yesterday we were meeting 210 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,320 and shaking hands at the Clay Clark event in 2021, but time flies, whether you're having 211 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,320 fun or not, I think. 212 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Yeah, a lot of people know my work here in Orange County because I was very outspoken 213 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,160 about trying to get our kids back in school on a normal basis and all of us back doing 214 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,440 our normal day-to-day. 215 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,440 But I actually did have a career before screaming into bullhorns at tyrannical government, and 216 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,560 that involved both brothel busting, I was working very hard against the child brothel 217 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,560 industry in Southeast Asia. 218 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:17,520 But what actually enabled my husband and I to fund that passion project was his work. 219 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,680 He's a chiropractor, but for many, many years he had an integrated wellness clinic here 220 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:28,200 in Orange County and a medical doctor partner, and they did all sorts of holistic treatments. 221 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,360 We really got a lot of people a lot of help, but as my husband was fond of saying back 222 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,280 in the day, he's like, I'm a chiropractor. 223 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Somebody comes in with joint pain, I take the out of place joint, I move it back, but 224 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,360 there's only so much in that bag of tricks. 225 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,760 So if they come in with a bone-on-bone knee where they're cartilage that's supposed to 226 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,040 separate the bone is worn away and now the bones are sitting on top of each other, he's 227 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,880 like, no amount of me racking and cranking on that bone is going to really, it could 228 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,680 be perfectly aligned, it's just missing its cushion and I can't magically reinstall its 229 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,680 cushion. 230 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:07,680 So probably close to 10 years ago now, from friends of ours, we had heard about this at 231 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,520 the time, sort of newly emerging treatment. 232 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,440 It was called amniotic stem cell treatment. 233 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Lot of people have concerns and misgivings on stem cell because what hit the market first 234 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,080 in the US or actually what hit the headlines first was embryonic stem cell, and that's 235 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,520 taken from human embryos and those comes from all sorts of places we don't want to think 236 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,040 about like, you know, plant-parent headlines. 237 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:37,200 But for the most part here in America for a long time now, that's been basically outlawed. 238 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:43,200 You cannot commercially, readily, in an available way, get broken baby body parts to heal your 239 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,360 body and that's the right answer. 240 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,920 But amniotic stem cell is a kind of a different color. 241 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Amniotic stem cell is, you know, you and I get pregnant back in the day, you know, babies 242 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:00,400 growing in the tummy in the amniotic sac and there's a placenta in there and it's getting 243 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,560 all sorts of nutrients to the baby along, you know, through the umbilical cord and you 244 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,640 give birth, you know, nine months later, baby comes out and then nobody really talks about 245 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,640 it much. 246 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,880 But all the stuff in the woman's body that was used to make that baby also comes out. 247 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,400 Like you're not walking around with an amniotic sac and a placenta and an umbilical cord in 248 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,400 you the rest of your life. 249 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,120 And if you did, you'd probably get really sick. 250 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:23,240 Like it's not like a liver and a kidney. 251 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 You don't get to keep that part once you've been cooking the baby. 252 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,760 So baby comes out, the other stuff comes out and what the hospitals used to do is they 253 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,960 used to just toss it into the medical waste bin because it was medical waste. 254 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:39,720 And then some bright guide many, many years ago was like, Hey, I wonder if there's stem 255 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:45,240 cells in the placenta in the amniotic lining in the umbilical cord. 256 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,720 And they figured out in fact there were stem cells and there were a whole bunch. 257 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,120 It was a very stem cell rich environment is what they discovered. 258 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:56,600 And they also discovered that you could treat it like an organ transplant. 259 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,640 So a guy goes down on a motorcycle, he's brain dead. 260 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,520 Lot of times the hospital will go in with the consent of the family for the victim and 261 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,440 harvest his eyeballs and his kidneys and as one of our heart and lungs to go do a transplant 262 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,640 into somebody else who needs them. 263 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,480 And the way they do that is they surgically remove those body parts, they put them on 264 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,040 ice and they get them into the new guy. 265 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Well the stem cell harvesting goes similarly. 266 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:26,040 They schedule a woman for a C-section because they need the personnel there to do the retrieval. 267 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,280 And you and I if we give birth normally, we have no idea if we're giving birth next Tuesday 268 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,440 at nine or two weeks from now at 10 p.m. 269 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,200 Like it's a bit of a mixed bag, but with C-sections it's very predictable. 270 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,200 So they take the C-section moms who are scheduled for C-sections and they simply say, Are you 271 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,160 interested in donating the parts that you don't need anymore, the umbilical cord, the 272 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,000 amniotic lining, the placenta after birth to medical science. 273 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,400 They're not paid for it. 274 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,800 They simply say, Yes, I'd rather it do some good than hit the trash can. 275 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,080 And at that point the hospital personnel is on standby. 276 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,960 They retrieve those pieces and then they're taken to a lab and they're with very strict 277 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,240 FDA protocols processed. 278 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,200 And at the end of it, you end up with a vial that's about the size of the end of my fingertip. 279 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,240 That's like a one CC dose and it goes on the end of a needle. 280 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:21,200 And the little tiny stem cells that are in there that came from the process I just described 281 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,120 go into the next person who needs them. 282 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,160 So maybe it's a woman whose knees are bone on bone and she can no longer play tennis 283 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,440 or pickle ball without her knee hurting. 284 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Or maybe it's an ex-NFL player. 285 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600 We treated a lot of those types of guys. 286 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,640 And same thing, they're near their hip is trash because they were running their bodies 287 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,280 into each other as battering rams for the better part of their 20s and 30s. 288 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,480 And you take it and you literally insert that fluid into the joint and the stem cells get 289 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,560 to work. 290 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,160 They are like a moth to a flame. 291 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,080 They look around and they go, what's wrong in here? 292 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,120 Is there assist that shouldn't be here? 293 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,640 Is there missing cartilage that needs to regrow? 294 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,640 Is there a broken torn tendon that needs to be knit back together? 295 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:08,480 And whatever it is, they are very, very adept at rebuilding the problem, healing the problem. 296 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:14,120 And the reason for that is the stem cell is essentially the blank slate from which humans 297 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:15,120 are made. 298 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:19,960 So when we're growing in our mommy's tummy, at some point we're just a cluster of cells 299 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,880 and those cells need to say, hey, I need to make a left ear today and tomorrow I need to 300 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,320 make her right knee and then her left kidney and they're literally blank cells and they 301 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,520 can kind of be whatever they want to be when they grow up. 302 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,600 It's like talking to your four-year-old grand kid. 303 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,160 Hey, babe, you're smart. 304 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,320 You could be a doctor when you grow up. 305 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,320 You could be a lawyer. 306 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,880 You could be a radio broadcaster. 307 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,960 You could be an architect. 308 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,440 And the reality is most of our kids, if they don't have some sort of organic brain damage 309 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,280 or other challenges, can grow up to be anything with the right environment. 310 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,560 And the stem cells are the same way. 311 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:54,160 If you put them in an injured body part, they use the inflammatory markers that are being 312 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,840 given off by the boo-boo and they light onto that and they follow the inflammation path 313 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,440 back to the place that's giving off the signal. 314 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,800 And then they start fixing it. 315 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:09,160 And that is literally what we were doing along with many, many folks here in the U.S. for 316 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,240 people who needed it for many years. 317 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,240 Okay. 318 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Now you mentioned joint pain, loss of cartilage. 319 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,280 You mentioned tendons. 320 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,280 What about arthritis? 321 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Are there some other applications for this amniotic stem cell? 322 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,160 Yeah. 323 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,720 Arthritis is the big one. 324 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,840 And usually it's a combination of one of the things we already talked about. 325 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320 Either the lady's cushion in her knee is worn out. 326 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,360 So every time she stands up from a chair or goes to go up and downstairs, it's going 327 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:34,360 out, out, out. 328 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,320 And it's because she's got no cushion. 329 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Or some guy had a low back injury decades ago. 330 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,120 And now when he gets in his little ramped up, resouped up Corvette sports car and he 331 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:47,400 hits a speed bump hard, he's like, oh, I was really uncomfortable on my low back. 332 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,680 Well, same thing. 333 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,200 All the little bones that are supposed to be separate vertebral segments in your back 334 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,200 are now sitting on each other because they don't have any little disc or cushion in between. 335 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,880 And so arthritis is just essentially a catch all term for arthro, which means of or relating 336 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,120 to the joint and itis, which means something's wrong. 337 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,760 You have a lot of medical conditions that end in the suffix itis. 338 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,320 And so you're just saying something's wrong with the joint and often it is they're old. 339 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,240 They don't have the cushion in there anymore. 340 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,680 They're a little bit misaligned or they have some other problem. 341 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,800 And again, the stem cells just it is, it is amazing how well it works. 342 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,120 Our biggest challenge in explaining it to them asses is the little old guys in the Marriott 343 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:32,280 seminar room would go, well, what kind of downchites are there and sounds better than 344 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,280 sliced bread? 345 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,000 Like what kind of downsides are there? 346 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:41,280 And we literally had to tell them we've never had a single side effect from what we've done 347 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,000 nor have most of the doctors we've done. 348 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,160 I mean, the biggest side effect you can get is the doctor doesn't keep the needle clean. 349 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,560 And as long as you maintain a sterile field and I'm a lawyer, Mary do a doctor and we 350 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,040 always did, you're good. 351 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,880 And as long as you got a clean needle, you're good to go. 352 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,720 So I love your humor and the way you talk and share things. 353 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,720 It's really delightful. 354 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,880 But one thing you did mention when we spoke before was that about five years before the 355 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:09,360 lockdown, the Food and Drug Administration put a halt to this kind of treatment. 356 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:14,800 And it just speaks to the whole big pharma, big medical world that is preventing humans 357 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,360 from having available treatments that we could benefit from. 358 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,360 Would you speak to that? 359 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:20,360 Yeah, absolutely. 360 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:25,680 So the FDA had allowed the type of stem cell I'm talking about, umbilical, amniotic placental 361 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:31,680 stem cell for purposes, you know, arthritic, joint pain, tendon repair, cartilage, torn 362 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,320 muscle, that kind of thing. 363 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,240 They had not rubber-stamped it approved, but they had not said you can't do it. 364 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,520 It was sort of like if your patient wants it and the doctor knows how to do it, okay, 365 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,240 as long as they sign a consent form, which of course everybody does when they get anything 366 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 done at their doctor's office. 367 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,200 And that's the way it was until about, I want to say mid-21 or 2022. 368 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 And then in the middle of lockdown, when none of us could do anything anyway, nobody was 369 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,520 working, they sort of secretly just said, you know what, we're going to let it sunset 370 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,480 on that experimental window and not reauthorize it. 371 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,440 And the reason for that pan is it was working in my humble opinion, it was working to you 372 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,440 to do it well. 373 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,240 Three out of four back surgeries end up being redone, you know, the low back surgery has 374 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680 a almost 75% failure rate. 375 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,120 So a guy gets one back surgery, three out of four of those guys go on to get a second 376 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,120 back surgery. 377 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:29,280 It is a multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars surgery, like 297 grand, replacing 378 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,000 your knee, 40K. 379 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Guess what? 380 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,040 You're putting metal parts in there, your doctor says, you're never going to ski again, 381 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,120 you're never going to bend your knee 90 degrees, you need to baby it, you need to be careful. 382 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,520 This is not what most of our patients want. 383 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,640 Most of our patients want their knee to work the way it used to, even if all they're doing 384 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,840 is bending down to the crisper at the bottom of their fridge and getting a pile of cabbage 385 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,960 out of the bottom of their refrigerator. 386 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,120 And so when you look at the amount of side effects, people dying on the table from the 387 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:56,040 anesthetic, their joint just never working again after all the metals put in there, most 388 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,200 people don't want that. 389 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,040 And I say, hey, we can do a shot in your knee. 390 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,120 It takes as long as getting a flu shot or any other band, a biotic shot. 391 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,280 And they're like, wow. 392 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,760 And then I put a bandaid on and I go home and I take it easy. 393 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,760 And I'm like, yeah. 394 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,040 They're like, I think I'd rather do that than go lay on the table and let somebody take 395 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,600 a band saw to my knee and put a bunch of metal in there. 396 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,080 So anybody with a brain and a credit card was doing this. 397 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,560 And it was taking tons of money away from the orthopedic surgeons and tons of money away 398 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,560 from Big Pharma, who was no longer having to sell them three of leaves a day or OxyContin 399 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,600 or whatever the guy was taking because it was in so much pain. 400 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800 And our patients would throw out their scooters. 401 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,320 These are true stories I'm telling you, throw out their walkers, throw out their wheelchairs 402 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,520 in some cases. 403 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,960 And we would say take it easy. 404 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,360 And the next call we'd get from the patient is, hey, don't call me to see how I'm doing 405 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,360 because I feel great. 406 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:50,640 I'm hiking Machu Picchu, a law school professor in LA said, oh, I'm hiking the Great Wall 407 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,320 of China, one of the couples that I think I gave you the success story on. 408 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,400 But it was phenomenal. 409 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,000 And they just, they got better. 410 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 It was a one and done. 411 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 And I never looked back. 412 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,280 It wasn't like regular medical care where you have to, it's sickness care and you keep 413 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,120 going and getting more and more. 414 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,360 We'd see them and never see them again. 415 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,680 So they basically terminated that. 416 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,120 And then about two months ago, the state of Utah told the federal government to take a 417 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:19,200 hike and they said, we are going to pass a law here in the state of Utah that specifically 418 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:27,200 allows amniotic flacental stem cell for orthopedic uses for the achy knees and backs and arthritis 419 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,200 and all that jazz. 420 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,280 God bless the state of Utah, man. 421 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,280 So a lot of doctors, including us are looking at getting up and running in the state of 422 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Utah again and servicing all the patients who are clamoring for it. 423 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,120 Well, and then you've told me also that you've got something of a grand opening. 424 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,560 I think you'd call it for the first week in October. 425 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Talk about that because I'm confident there are many people here in the United States 426 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,200 that would need to make it to Utah to get this treatment. 427 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,800 Yeah, we are, we're now going to be delivering in the state of Utah. 428 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,000 And it's going to be amazing. 429 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560 This is the way we used to treat anyway. 430 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,040 We would do seminars on the weekend because most people were not familiar with what it 431 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,280 really entailed or how it worked. 432 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,240 So we would do a little education segment, kind of like I've done here on your show today. 433 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,360 And then if the patient was interested, they would just come to one of our allied provider's 434 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:19,480 offices and we would just be in that doctor's office, sort of leasing their office all day 435 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,600 and seeing and examining patients who wanted the treatment. 436 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,600 So we're going to be offering that same thing in Salt Lake. 437 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,440 The patient's going to have to go get a flight to Salt Lake, but those are pretty cheap for 438 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,120 most major airports. 439 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,200 And they're going to come in for the weekend. 440 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,880 I want to say it is the October 5th and 6th. 441 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,440 And yeah, if you're interested in getting stem cell, this is the time and the place to do 442 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,440 it. 443 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,840 The other thing is nowadays, a lot of people are very concerned about blood products and 444 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,800 other products that contain vaccinated people's stuff. 445 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:59,200 And we have one of the only labs that is basically saying to us, the stuff we're giving you 446 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,240 is from unvaccinated C-section moms placenas. 447 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320 And I feel good about that because all the freedom fighters and the people who are awake 448 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,560 in this country, the last thing they want to do after they avoided the shot is go put 449 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,640 somebody else who got the shot stuff in their body. 450 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,960 So it's really the time is now if you want to be getting this done and not having to 451 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,920 go to Japan or Panama or Dubai to get it done. 452 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,880 Like make hay while the sun shines, come to October 1st weekend. 453 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,880 Okay. 454 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Now, do they need to register to attend the weekend seminar and do they need to make appointments 455 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,280 to have the treatment? 456 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,280 Yeah. 457 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,520 So that would be a good idea. 458 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,680 My name is spelled with extra letters. 459 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480 My mom gave me extra letters in that first name. 460 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,800 It's L-E-I-G-H is how you spell Lee in my case. 461 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,360 And my last name is Dundas. 462 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,840 D is in David, U-N, D is in David, A-S. 463 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,960 So again, it's first name, last name, leedundas.com. 464 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,160 You go to my healthy living page once you're on my website and there's a little form that 465 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680 says I'm interested in stem cell. 466 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,480 Click it and one of our staff will reach out to get you scheduled for that first weekend 467 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,480 in October. 468 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:10,280 And again, the website is leedundas.com, L-E-I-G-H-D-U-N-D-A-S.com. 469 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,280 Okay. 470 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Now is space limited for the weekend seminar? 471 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960 Yeah. 472 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,840 I mean, we are limited by the number of folks that we can fit in a room at a given time. 473 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,040 So I would say if you're interested, don't dilly, don't dally, don't dither, just get 474 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,640 on it and we'll get you scheduled. 475 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,760 But we're looking forward to it. 476 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,800 We've had so many patients in the last couple of years who were like, hey, can we do another 477 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,560 body part or my sister needs something done? 478 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,360 And we had to tell them no because of the FDA thing, but now Utah has given us a green 479 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,800 light and a safe haven in which to do this amazing work that is actually healthcare instead 480 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,800 of sickness care. 481 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,840 We're getting you well using your own body to do so. 482 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,080 And who wouldn't want to be a part of that really? 483 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,080 Absolutely. 484 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,360 This is a part of why I had you on my program. 485 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,320 I want to be a part of it and to help as many people as possible. 486 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,600 I mean, the Lord has given us so much to work with. 487 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,280 It's greed that has prevented the big pharma and the medical industry from providing what 488 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,320 people could otherwise have access to. 489 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,360 So I'm delighted about this and I like your statement that this is healthcare, not sick 490 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,360 care. 491 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Right. 492 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,080 What I'd like to do, L-E, is to have you back on after your October event. 493 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,080 Yeah. 494 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Get some testimonials and some information about how this went for you and the people 495 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,520 that you got to treat. 496 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Yeah. 497 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 We have some from all the hundreds of patients we've treated in the past. 498 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,200 Feel free to include it if your audience wants to know about it. 499 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,000 But these are women, men, young, mainly older, obviously. 500 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,400 And they are like, best thing I ever did. 501 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,720 If you're interested, do it. 502 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,720 Don't look back. 503 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,720 This is incredible. 504 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,720 It's a gift from God. 505 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,280 I mean, these are the types of things our ex-NFL players were saying, our tech CEOs were saying, 506 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,080 we had owners of hospitals in other states come to us to get this done. 507 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,880 We had an emergency room surgeon pay my husband's office to treat his mother-in-law who was 508 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,800 101 years old. 509 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:01,080 We were the doctors of the doctors because this was such phenomenal healthcare. 510 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,120 And we're just thrilled to be able to jump back into it because Utah has seen their way 511 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,800 to the right side of the equation. 512 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,800 Right? 513 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Absolutely. 514 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,800 Well, thank you so much. 515 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,800 I look forward to having you back. 516 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,800 Yes. 517 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,720 I look forward to having the researched information, the testimonials that you've provided me on 518 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,240 my Beyond the Podcast page so my listeners can go and take a look and learn a little bit 519 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,240 more for themselves. 520 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,240 And of course, leedunvis.com is where they would go to even ask questions, register, 521 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,360 and learn a lot more. 522 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240 And hopefully, be in position to get the treatment they need. 523 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,480 Thank you so much. 524 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,480 Yeah. 525 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,480 Thanks for having me, Pam. 526 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:41,720 It was really a pleasure to be here today. 527 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,440 Now, having heard from Lee and knowing of the many prophecies God has provided about 528 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,000 the glorious future he has for us here on earth, stand on these promises. 529 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Visualize what life will be like once God has intervened to deal with all manner of 530 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,640 evil and restore freedoms and joy and wealth to his people. 531 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,800 And let that truth from God fill your heart and mind. 532 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,160 Understand even if there is an escalation of war, it will not prevail because God has 533 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,840 promised us a glorious new life once he has finished dealing with the evil in our world 534 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,400 today. 535 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,080 God would not make a promise about our victorious glorious future on earth and then let the 536 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,800 enemy have his way. 537 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,340 Think about this. 538 00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:26,920 Stand on his truth, especially in these days to come. 539 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,560 In prophecy, through Dr. Patricia Green, God was very clear that the month of September 540 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,240 would be a month of him completing many things. 541 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,800 He has said through other prophets that the October surprise would come early this year, 542 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160 so we should expect it in September. 543 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,160 God has also said he does not need an election to make things right. 544 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Through all the prophecies, God is pointing to the final months of this year on both the 545 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:57,520 Hebrew and Gregorian calendar as being highly significant in his working to overcome evil 546 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,440 and restore his people to life on earth as he intended. 547 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,720 Remember, you can find a wealth of information in the show notes, including the link to Lee's 548 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,040 website where you can learn more about the stem cell treatments and their October 5th 549 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160 and 6th educational seminar in Utah. 550 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,440 When Lee returns as my guest on a future podcast, we'll share testimonies and introduce another 551 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,000 health treatment that Lee and her husband are making available that has already produced 552 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,720 miraculous results in Hungary. 553 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,320 You know, I truly am honored for getting to meet the various guests I have on this podcast 554 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,280 and next week is another special honor. 555 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,200 One of my faithful listeners, Jill, whom I also consider a friend, asked me to explore 556 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,200 Project 2025 on the podcast. 557 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,640 Well, it's taken a while, but I'm humbled that Stephen Groves is confirmed as my guest 558 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,040 for next week. 559 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,080 Groves is highly accomplished and educated, is a fellow in the Heritage Foundation's 560 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,800 Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, and he formerly served in the Trump administration 561 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:02,080 in several roles and is the co-editor of Mandate for Leadership, The Conservative Promise, 562 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,960 which is the flagship policy book for the 2025 Presidential Transition Project, also 563 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,480 known as Project 2025. 564 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:15,640 There truly are a lot of people working hard to take back our nation, so expect to be encouraged 565 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,720 next week as you hear what my guest, Stephen Groves, will share. 566 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:24,080 Now, I ask you to please listen to my announcements and take advantage of the many goods and services 567 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,520 I bring you in an effort to at least cover the costs of this podcast. 568 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,840 It may seem far off, but most people make plans for a significant vacation about a year in 569 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,400 advance, so if you haven't already expressed interest in traveling with us in October 570 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,320 2025, now is the time to do so. 571 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,600 We want to have about 30 people total because this size group works best for the specific 572 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,400 tour I have in mind. 573 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,200 We'll be walking the footsteps of the Apostle Paul. 574 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:56,440 I'm using the time between now and February 2025 to determine if we have enough interest, 575 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,720 and the trend indicates we definitely should. 576 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:03,000 We have just about 30 people on the list now, but I'd like to have more because when it 577 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,440 comes to the actual day of making a commitment, things could have changed, and I want to be 578 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,400 able to have at least 30 actually attend the tour. 579 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,800 So if you think you'd like to be part of the Fates Live by Christian tour with me in 580 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Greece during October 2025, now is the time to get your name and number in your party on the list. 581 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,680 There's no obligation at this point. 582 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680 You're just expressing your interest. 583 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,040 While the specific details are subject to change, as it stands now, the week-long tour 584 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,880 will include four nights at Devani Palace Acropolis Hotel in Athens, which includes breakfast, 585 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,760 one night at Amelia Hotel in Delphi, which includes breakfast, one night at Grand Meteora 586 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:47,280 Hotel in Kalambaka with breakfast, two nights at Mediterranean Palace Hotel in Thessaloniki, 587 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,000 that includes breakfast, two dinners at local restaurants, tour guide throughout, deluxe 588 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,520 coach throughout, admissions to museums and sites, tips to guides, drivers and restaurants, 589 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,440 and all local taxes. 590 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,200 Estimated cost per person double occupancy room is about $3,000. 591 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,320 Attendees need to arrange their own air travel to and from the Athens International Airport. 592 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,920 To get your name on the list, send an email to faithtilivby at Pamelachristianministries.com 593 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560 with the word Greece in the subject line. 594 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,080 In the body of the email, provide your name, contact information, and number of people you 595 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,720 expect to be in your party. 596 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:27,960 This will place your name on the interested in attending list, but does not obligate you 597 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,960 in any way. 598 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,320 It merely assures you have first right of refusal come February 2025 when down payments are due. 599 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,200 If you didn't get the details written down that I just shared, simply visit my Beyond 600 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,120 the Podcast page using the link in the show notes. 601 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,440 If you like what you hear from me with this podcast, I highly recommend my book series, 602 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,000 my award-winning blog, and consider signing up for my certificate course in apologetics. 603 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,900 My aim with that course is to help people learn how not only to 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