Greetings with this first podcast for 2024. This podcast will first post on January 3rd,
2024, so let me take this time to wish you a very Happy New Year with the underlying
awareness that this year will be unlike any year we've ever experienced in our lifetime.
How do I know this? Because I've been seeking the Lord through personal prayer and study
time. I've been listening for His voice on my own, and also listening for His voice as
I glean from the trusted prophets of our day, and as the anchor and supreme reference for
everything, God's written Word, the Bible. I'm Pam Christian, the host for this weekly
podcast known as Faith to Live By, where each week I help us to explore current events from
a biblical and prophetic perspective, so we as God's children can know how He wants us
to respond. Before I get into today's program, I want to tell you how pleased I was to have
so many of you ask for the Christmas gift I wanted my podcast listeners to have. I got
to send out a great number of my book, Examine Your Faith, Finding Truth in a World of Lies
in PDF format, and I really look forward to your response to that book. It, like all the
books in my Faith to Live By series, has won multiple awards. I think it's a great book,
and I think you will too, but I ask you not to share the PDF copy if you got one. It was
my Christmas gift to you as a listener of my podcast. You know, I write books and I
produce this podcast wanting people to know the truth. At the same time, people buying
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keep it for yourself only. And if you love it, and I think you will, you can tell others
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T-R-U-T-H, they will receive a 20% discount on their entire order. You know, I've been
in ministry since the early 90s, and I have to say, the past three and a half years of
hosting this podcast with focus on helping us all to discover the truth that our government
and other agencies have intentionally kept from us have been the most challenging of
all the work I've ever done. I don't have to tell you what the whole world has endured
during this time and how at this point we are expecting 2024 to be a tremendous transitional
year. Because of the Christmas holiday, I'm actually pre-recording this portion of the
podcast on December 20th, the same day Julie Green received and presented a word from the
Lord emphatically speaking to us, to awaken from the deep sleep of distractions and demonic
deceptions and to rely on God for our truth, not the version of truth produced by propaganda
machines called your government and media and even some religious organizations. God
said, this is time to stand on my word, because a great shift is taking place, a shift of
perspective, a shift of power, a shift of control, a shift of many people in political
positions and people in religious positions, a shift of military positions, a shift of
judges even in your highest courts in your land, O United States. Great shakings are
about to take place, more things are about to intensify regarding this nation, destroying
the corruption that is held in great captivity." There's a lot more God said that you'll want
to hear, so use the link in the show notes. So I expect by the time this podcast posts,
we will have already experienced some of the great shakings with much more to occur in
this new year, which happens to be 100% consistent with what my guest, international prophet
Barry Wunsch, has also been warning us about. This podcast is the final in my three-part
interview with Barry, so if you've missed parts one and two, please look up the show
number 181 and 182 titled From Stalemate to Checkmate and 2024, A Year of Transition.
Before I bring you part three of my interview with Barry, I want to again announce my efforts
to see if there's enough interest to book a Christian travel tour to Greece in 2025.
So I'm asking you to let me know if you'd be interested in being part of a Faith to
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first destination in 2025. I need to use this time to find out if there's enough interest
to actually book the tour. So if you think you'd like to be part of the Faith to Live
By Christian tour with me in Greece in 2025, please send an email to me using faithtoliveby
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if planning the trip makes sense. Once we have enough people expressing interest in
potentially being part of such a trip, then I'll get the details and put the information
back out there for people to actually sign up. Again, if you want me to put together
a Christian tour for 2025 to Greece, then send me an email to faithtoliveby at pamelachristianministries.com
with the words Grace Tour in the subject line and the number of people that you would be
bringing in the body of the email. Today's guest, Barry Wunsch, is a very gentle and
humble man, but his moniker of being the Canadian Hammer speaks of his no-nonsense approach
to directly speaking what needs to be said. And he's already revealed the Ecclesia, or
the Church, has tremendous responsibility in what happens in this world because God
has commissioned us to be his leaders and the influencers for everything that happens
on the earth. It's my opinion that this is the year where God's call and expectations
of his people are much higher than we've been living in the past. The time of playing
church or Christian social club is over. Now, here's part three of my interview with Barry Wunsch.
One of the things I've seen as a trend in the church in modern days has been for the
leadership of the churches to help people identify their gifts and talents through different
assessment tests so that they can use those gifts and talents serving within the four
walls of the church. But that's not what we're coming into with 2024.
No. We're called to the public square. And, Pam, I tell you, we're in meetings. And I
mean, I'm going to say that they may look like a political meeting on the outside sometimes.
But honestly, we're going into these meetings talking about God as, you know, basically
one people, one blood, one nation under God. And we're talking about the ecclesia and,
you know what, the sacred and the secular, there's been a wall built between them. And
we're kicking that down because God is not an indifferent bystander. And so when we go
and we start to talk about God's sovereignty and how he is putting, knocking this wall
down before the sacred and the secular, Pam, we're in meetings where the Holy Spirit shows
up. I start shaking a few hands and giving people a hug or two. And the Holy Spirit releases
words of knowledge. He releases his spirit. People are getting healed. People are getting
delivered, laying on the floor, laid out by the Holy Spirit in these meetings, in the
public square. You know, people driving four hours to come to a meeting because they hear
something's going on. And this is what God shows up and he shows off when we're bold
enough and we're brave enough. Like we'll move at the speed of our obedience with him.
And he is not holding back. You've got the same challenges as we have where some of these
groups, they'll put a bumper sticker on it looking like it's Christian or trying to market
it to the right Christian conservative ideology. And what they'll do is they'll kind of bolt
something onto it that looks like it's Christian, but it really doesn't have the root system
of that. And so there's no equity. Like when you've got leaders or different people in
positions that aren't living a laid down life before the Father, you know, and they've got
a mechanism or a platform or a party or whatever, God is sorting all this out. And he's calling
people to have the real thing, not just something with a bumper sticker on it that looks like
it.
Right. Absolutely. Barry, I'm very optimistic about 2024. Even though things look very,
very dark right now and we are yet to see some fulfillment of prophecies where God has
forewarned us that things would get worse and that we may be indeed sequestered into
our homes again, but we're to trust him that that would be for our protection. And that
hasn't happened yet. Do you see that happening anytime soon?
Well, I think that, you know, I know that there are, the Lord took me and he showed
me that there are plans in place that they want to roll out against our nations to restrict
us, to hold us back, to, you know, basically control us. And, you know, we know that, I
mean, there's evidence, you know, abounding. In fact, there's documents that are being
leaked out, you know, from some of these agencies that are clear in their intentions. And that
being said, we are not going to bow to these things. We're not going to bow to these for
myself. You know, I'm not going to bow to what they want to do to repress our voice.
And I know that there are events, there's an event coming that is going to shake everything
up on a level that, you know, eyes will be opened to truth. And there will be a revealing
of these ones and their plans. And there are, you know, those that are aware to a degree,
but this is going to be on a national and international level that these things are
going to be exposed. And you're going to see a righteous remnant standing. You're going
to see a righteous remnant taking a position that they're saying, no, we're not going to
go this way. And God is putting those in place to help lead and to guide, you know, through
some of these, you know, uncharted waters.
Well, with all of that, Barry, what would you like to say in closing to my listeners?
Well, Pam, I would say we've got tremendous hope. And I'm actually getting very excited
when I see, you know, what is unfolding in behind the scenes and how God is by His sovereign
hand putting things in place. And we have nothing to fear. You know, I say one with
the Lord as a majority. And there are many believers, you know, we have more fasting
and prayer going on probably in this time than any other time in history. And so I would
say that for each one to keep their love on, if fear comes knocking on the door, give it
a kick. Don't receive it. Don't accept it. And just remain in that place.
Number one, one of the big things, Pam, is community. There are so many believers and
they may be in a big church and they may be going to big gatherings and different things.
But the importance right now of being in community where if it's a house gathering or a smaller
group where people can connect to, where they're loved, where they're received, where they're
cherished, where they're cared for, we really need to be looking for those that we can bring
up another chair to the table around us where those might be hurting and it may be feeling
a little vulnerable. I think those that are a little stronger need to do just that and
provide a place, an atmosphere that we can get past just going in and out of a big meeting
where we can literally walk with one another, doing life with one another through it. And
I mean, to me, that's a real important part of this. It sounds kind of practical, but
we really desperately need that. There are many in the body that are displaced, have
been hurt, have maybe even crawled into a cave and are alone that are looking for a
place where they can come into community, where they can have justice. So my prayer
and I have seen that the Lord is raising up these places for such ones.
Good words, Barry. You're reminding me of the scripture that says, those who are strong
in the faith ought to bear with the failings of those who are weak. It's another mandate
we have from the Lord.
So I want to thank you so much for what you've shared here. I would love to have you back
on the program again sometime in the not too distant future.
That would be my pleasure, Pam. Thank you so much.
Absolutely. Thank you, Barry.
Thank you, Pam. God bless you and may God bless each and every one listening here and
each and every family. May he watch over, may he overshadow each and everyone in Jesus'
name.
You heard Barry say that the Lord has given him visions about the evil plans of the cabal
to restrict and control us and that evidence abounds to support what they really want to
do to us. But we are not to comply. We are not to bow down to the tyrannical controls
on any level. The only one we are ever to bow down to is Jesus. And according to Philippians
2, 10 to 11, even these evil ones will one day have to bow down before King Jesus.
God has been reassuring us that he is dealing with all the evil and he expects us to become
the righteous remnant standing that Barry talked about. Barry spoke of fasting and prayer.
And I know that's something my church encourages twice a year, the first being a 21-day fast
that starts on New Year's Day.
I invite you to join me. Think of the increase in power and effective authority we can have
if more of us gathered together at the same time to fast and pray. I know fasting is something
that has to be very personal, but won't you join me and take these next 21 days from January
1st through to 21st to fast and pray as you can and know that we're doing it together.
Officially, this concludes my three-part interview with Barry and I sincerely hope Barry's wisdom
and insight has inspired and emboldened you to embrace this New Year even with all the
shaking we are to expect and for you to rise up and be the best version of your Christian
self you've ever been starting 2024.
Unofficially, I want to share with you part of the conversation Barry and I had after
the interview which greatly blessed me. Here it is now.
Well, I know I've talked to the Lord many times because as you know, you're just working
in your home office and you're talking to your computer screen by yourself. And it's
very lonely. It's a very isolated ministry. I get hardly any emails from people that say,
I like this, I didn't like that, or you stink. I don't get anything. But the numbers, the
analytics show that it's growing. So I guess I have to just keep thinking I'm speaking
to the audience of one.
Yes. Be obedient. In all of it, I just say show up and just keep walking in obedience.
When he blows on something, there's nothing that won't stop.
And I tell you, we get a lot of invitations that we're on a very narrow path. And I know
that as you've reached out, I've felt that this is one to come on with you here and there.
I just felt that this is one that he's called me to connect to.
So I honor the humility in which you are walking in. And I mean, you're well positioned.
Thank you, Barry. Thank you very much. I look forward to meeting you in person in the side
of heaven.
Yeah, that will happen one day. Yeah, that'll happen.
That'd be great. That'd be great. Of course, your wife too. Do you ever even show pictures
of her?
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