1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,400 Greetings and welcome back to those of you who have joined me before, and a special welcome 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,300 to you if this is your first time listening. 3 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:12,960 I'm Pam Christian, the host of this weekly podcast where I help us explore current events 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,360 from a Biblical and prophetic perspective, so we, as God's children, can know how He 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,800 wants us to respond. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,600 My very special guest again today is Barry Wunsch, known as the Canadian Hammer, who 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,600 brings us his wisdom and insight as a prophet of God about these very days we're living 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,260 in and, in fact, the content of the interview is so compelling that I decided to make it 9 00:00:35,260 --> 00:00:36,940 a three-part interview. 10 00:00:36,940 --> 00:00:41,400 So if you missed last week's program, which was part one with Barry, please look up show 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,360 number 181, titled From Stalemate to Checkmate, and be sure to return next week when I will 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,580 post the final of the three-part interview with Barry. 13 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:54,480 Before the interview, however, I have a couple of announcements. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,960 This podcast will first post on December 27th, which means I want to give you a Christmas 15 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:06,120 gift, but you'll have to act quickly because only emails received by December 31st qualify 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,780 for my giveaway. 17 00:01:07,780 --> 00:01:12,040 Listen to the end of this podcast to learn how you need only send me an email following 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,440 the instructions I'll provide, and I'll send you a Christmas gift, an ebook version of 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,360 my first book in the Faith to Live by series titled Examine Your Faith, Finding Truth 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00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,840 in being a part of a Faith to Live by Tour in Greece in 2025. 40 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,760 I've been asking the subscribers of my complimentary bi-monthly e-newsletter to let me know where 41 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,040 they'd like to go, and based on what I've learned from them and the tour guides I have 42 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:57,040 available to me, we could have Greece be our first destination in 2025. 43 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,360 So I need to use this time now to find out if there's enough interest to actually book 44 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,440 the tour. 45 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,040 So if you think you'd like to be part of the Faith to Live by Tour in 2025, please send 46 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,760 me an email to faithtolivebyatpamalchristianministries.com with the words GREECE TOUR in the description. 47 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,000 In the subject line, and then let me know how many people would likely be in your party. 48 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Your email is not a commitment or an obligation of any kind. 49 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,520 It's just to let me know the interest to see if planning the actual trip makes sense. 50 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,260 Once we have enough people expressing interest in potentially being part of the Faith to 51 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:33,060 Live by Tour to Greece in 2025, then we'll get the details and put it back out there 52 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:35,000 for people to actually sign up. 53 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Again, if you want me to put together a Christian tour for 2025, send me an email to faithtolivebyatpamalchristianministries.com 54 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,480 with the words GREECE TOUR in the subject line and the number of people who would be 55 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,360 in your party in the body of the email. 56 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,960 With today's portion of my interview with Barry Wunsch, you'll hear some significant 57 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,360 warnings and sage advice on what we need to do to be prepared for what God is certain 58 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,720 to do. 59 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Here's part two of my interview with Barry. 60 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,800 We're coming into a moment in history where we're going to see a biblical event come 61 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:20,240 and it's going to take us out of stalemate to checkmate. 62 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Wow. 63 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:29,720 Where the king makes a move and we're going to see things return in his purposes, you 64 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,760 know, in very short order. 65 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,200 You say in very short order, Barry. 66 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,820 Do you mean that this is something that's eminent? 67 00:04:37,820 --> 00:04:42,120 We will see God intervene in the affairs of humanity very, very soon. 68 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Yeah, Pam, I mean, I'm seeing it. 69 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,040 You know, we're getting, you know, again, in the natural, we're getting reports back 70 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:59,240 of things that we've seen, that we've prophesied that are literally on the map. 71 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:06,360 You know, there's a war room that, you know, there are plans and purposes that God Almighty 72 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:15,640 has put men and women in place that are working behind the scenes, collaborating, you know, 73 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:24,440 as one thing is brought down to see the standing up and the rebirthing of within our nations 74 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,560 on every mountain, on every mountain of influence. 75 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:38,320 And so, you know, we know that it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. 76 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,880 And there will be, you know, from what I've seen prophetically and again, some of the 77 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,600 things that we're getting, you know, intel, I mean, the phone calls I get, Pam, just, 78 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:55,960 you know, it just amazes me every day at, you know, some of the things that are confirmed 79 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,560 back through authorities. 80 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:06,280 And so there is, you know, there is what is going to look like a vacuum, I think, that 81 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:09,440 will come and some of these things shake down. 82 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:19,440 But God is positioning his ecclesia and he's raising up a righteous revolution of leaders. 83 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,480 And I'm talking governmental, I'm not talking politics here, I'm talking governmental. 84 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:32,840 And there is a difference, governmental ones that are called by his name to stand and operate 85 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:37,280 in the offices that he's called them to, to take back our nations. 86 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:38,720 Wow. 87 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,960 You know, I've sensed in my own spirit and I've even shared with my audience that I thought 88 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,840 that the last quarter of this year, 2023, we would really see an acceleration of events. 89 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:50,320 And so far that's been true. 90 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,500 Now I'm talking to you on November 29th. 91 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:56,760 This will be a couple of weeks before the people actually hear it. 92 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:04,000 But I'm sensing that by the end of 2023, sometime toward the end of December, we will see clearly 93 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,480 some evidence of God radically at work and that come January we will actually have reasons 94 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,780 to celebrate. 95 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:15,240 That doesn't mean everything's resolved, but we will see the trend toward the resolution. 96 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Would you agree with that? 97 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Yeah, you know, I do see that, you know, and you know, there, and even though publicly 98 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:32,320 you may not be seeing things in the headlines, I can assure you and I can assure the listeners 99 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:39,960 that there is much more happening in real time right now behind the scenes than anyone 100 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,960 is aware. 101 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:50,480 And, and I would concur that there are so many moving parts to some of these things. 102 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,400 And when you're dealing with the nations and when you're looking at the global impact of 103 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,400 what's unfolding, it is, you know, it's complicated. 104 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:07,520 It's not going to just happen in 10 minutes, but, but there are things that are literally, 105 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,200 you know, I think even within the next few weeks, as you say, we're going to see evidence 106 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,200 showing up. 107 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,800 And in fact, there are nations that are already seeing some of these things show up on their 108 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,800 doorstep. 109 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Yes. 110 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,000 And the election with New Zealand and in Argentina, those are both very encouraging. 111 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Very much, very much. 112 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:32,840 And, you know, you look at nations like Guatemala, you know, Turkey, you know, there, there are 113 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:40,800 some of these that are already, you know, in, in process of, you know, these, these 114 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,360 things kind of coming to fruition. 115 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:50,040 And so I've got great expectation, but there is still a shaking happening and there will 116 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:57,240 be an account to be paid by some of these evil demonic regimes that have postured themselves 117 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,680 that are fighting tooth and nail with everything they've got to stop what's coming, but there 118 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:03,840 will be nothing. 119 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,520 There's absolutely, you know, whatever they throw at this, there will be nothing that 120 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,960 is going to stop what's coming. 121 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,960 There's so much reassurance. 122 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,200 And then in fact, I was just talking to my daughter the other day, she's, she's an adult 123 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,440 and we were talking about what's going on in the world. 124 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:23,620 And I said, one of the things I love the most about Jesus, about God is that he's immutable. 125 00:09:23,620 --> 00:09:24,620 He cannot change. 126 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:25,620 Yeah. 127 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:30,560 So we can count on him unique to anyone else. 128 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,000 And I just take a great deal of comfort in that. 129 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Yeah. 130 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,240 And, you know, and he's calling us higher, you know, he's calling, he's, he's calling 131 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,480 his people, he's calling us higher. 132 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,280 And you know, I think that with where we're going and what we're called the steward, you 133 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 know, I don't think we're going to be getting away with the things that people used to get 134 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,600 away with. 135 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,680 You know, he's calling us to account. 136 00:09:54,680 --> 00:10:00,520 And you know, I just, I have a feeling that, you know, we're only kind of, you know, seeing 137 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:06,280 the tip of the iceberg here as God comes and he starts to, to deal with his, you know, 138 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:12,200 those ones that he's called in leadership, even in the church, in areas of compromise, 139 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:19,000 areas where they've maybe used, you know, things to build their own kingdoms or, or, 140 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,760 you know, financially in different ways that have been maybe a bit unhealthy and have gotten 141 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,200 off track. 142 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,760 I think God is doing a, I want to call it a reset, but he's bringing an account to these 143 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:38,520 places and bringing men's hearts back to the, the foundations that he's called them to. 144 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,400 And you know, we found that even, you know, there's leaders that, you know, I mean, well, 145 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,040 I mean, in every sector and they'll call themselves a Christian if they say, God bless America 146 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,600 or God bless Canada or, or God bless you. 147 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,680 You know, they think that, you know, they're, they're, they're Christians without really 148 00:10:54,680 --> 00:11:01,080 coming to a knowing relationship with God, without really coming, you know, to a surrendered 149 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:07,280 life in him, you know, getting baptized, you know, some of the basics of the faith, you 150 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,600 know, making a, making a, making that declaration in their life that of surrender to him and 151 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:20,400 then living a life that, you know, is a little narrow road because as we step into the kingdom, 152 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,200 it does to get, it is a little bit more of a narrow road. 153 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:31,880 And so I believe that we're seeing God pressing into leaders, political and otherwise, where 154 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,800 he's drawing them onto them, unto himself so that they can fulfill the fullness of their 155 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:43,800 destiny because once he's touched you, once he's filled you with Holy Spirit, I mean, 156 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,160 things go to a whole other level. 157 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,160 Absolutely. 158 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,160 Absolutely. 159 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,640 So, Barry, what would you say, especially to the leadership beginning with the church 160 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,600 because of 1 Peter 4 17 leadership in the church and leadership in governments, what 161 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,880 would you say they really need to be doing right now? 162 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:09,320 Well, you talked about the door when we started this program. 163 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,000 The door is in the floor. 164 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,640 So in other words, when you go low, when you take a position in humility, when you take 165 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:26,720 a position of surrender, when you kind of let go of the rates and you're a surrender 166 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,120 to the father and his purposes, wow. 167 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:38,640 Now that's a place that he'll blow on because as long as we have something in our hand, 168 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,520 we will often trust in that. 169 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,880 And many of us, you know, whether I've gone through fire in a train wreck or two, you 170 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,520 know, God has used those things to get those things out of our hands that are not of him. 171 00:12:51,520 --> 00:13:00,360 And so, you know, I think it's wave the white flag of surrender and really, Lord, lay it 172 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,240 on the altar and reevaluate those. 173 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Do that personal inventory in your heart. 174 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,940 Lord, are we okay? 175 00:13:07,940 --> 00:13:13,680 Deal with those hurts, deal with those offenses, deal with those places of pain because the 176 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:17,920 Lord, he is gracious and fantastic to heal. 177 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,760 And I think the sooner we step into those things, the quicker he does. 178 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,420 And yet we will resist it in our pain day after day. 179 00:13:26,420 --> 00:13:34,000 And so my word is the father loves us just with a ravenous love. 180 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,800 And he goes after us to take us to our place. 181 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,240 And so I think this is what he's doing. 182 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:48,800 And we're coming into the greatest revival that we've seen ever internationally, globally. 183 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,400 And he does that one heart at a time. 184 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,120 So I hear you saying that this is a great time, especially for people who find themselves 185 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:04,040 in positions of leadership and influence to do a soul audit and get themselves right before 186 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,480 the Lord, repent where needed and know that God will indeed forgive them and set them 187 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,760 back on the right path. 188 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Yeah. 189 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Yeah. 190 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:17,920 I'm going to say go through the spiritual car wash, pull out the mat, pull out the seat, 191 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,280 you know, open up the trunk, get everything there. 192 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,920 And you know, sometimes we need a little help to do that. 193 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:31,560 And there are those that are gifted in these areas that walk in love and healing and deliverance 194 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,440 and inner healing and all of that. 195 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:40,880 And I think that's really important right now for everyone to really examine those places. 196 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,920 And then what happens, the enemy is really just a good lawyer and he'll use any little 197 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:54,080 area that he can as an open door to gain access for us and control us and put the boots to 198 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,160 us. 199 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,600 And so he can close those doors before the father. 200 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,800 You know, I mean, he's paid it all, he's done it all. 201 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,640 But we have our part to do too. 202 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Right. 203 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Barry, what would you say to those Christians that are basically hunkering down in fear 204 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:20,400 and wanting Jesus to just rescue us, the people that are following what I call exitology? 205 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,400 Right. 206 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:28,960 Well, you know, Pam, the way I see it, the Lord has never run away from a fight in his 207 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,600 life, nor has he ever lost one. 208 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:39,160 And I think it has been the greatest deception to immobilize the church thinking that they're 209 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:49,840 going to be snapped out of here because it's basically rendered them dysfunctioning where 210 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:55,680 they haven't been operating and then they haven't been standing and they've been passive 211 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,360 in their voice. 212 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,920 And Nehemiah in his day, you know, I mean, when they were rebuilding the walls, he went 213 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:07,280 in repentance for his forefathers, forgive us, you know, in these places. 214 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,200 And he went in repentance not only for himself, but for his generations. 215 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,360 And I'm going to say for Canada and America, we need to look at those places where we've 216 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,360 been passive, where we have allowed the pedophile to come in, where we haven't stood against 217 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,640 some of these things, where we've, you know, been silent as Christians, nice Christians. 218 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,000 And I'm not saying they have to be bad, you know, nasty to be doing this, but where we've 219 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:37,760 abdicated our God-given positions to stand to disciple a nation because we're actually 220 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:46,360 called to disciple nations, not just a little church and not just a little, you know, denomination. 221 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:53,640 He's actually called us as he commissioned us to basically disciple the nations. 222 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:59,480 And so this is where he's taking us out of the church, into the public square, onto the 223 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,560 seven mountains so that we can do just that. 224 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,320 And that means we're going to be here for a while. 225 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,960 And we've got to kind of figure out what our role is and what we're called to and step 226 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,320 into it with boldness. 227 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,520 I completely agree with that. 228 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,640 And Barry, so far, everything I'm hearing from you is bearing witness with my spirit 229 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,920 and with the other trusted prophets that I listen to and certainly the written word of 230 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,480 God and it's reassuring. 231 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,780 And I hope that all of this is also very much reassuring the listeners. 232 00:17:29,780 --> 00:17:33,520 As we move forward, we're approaching the end of 2023. 233 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,640 We know we're in the Hebrew year of 5784, which is a new year that began in September, 234 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,400 but we now are entering a new year for the Gregorian calendar. 235 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,800 What do you see or hear from the Lord that we should be anticipating for 2024? 236 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:54,840 I think 2024 is going to be a tremendously transitional year. 237 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,400 And I actually think that we're coming into Isaiah 60. 238 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:06,040 I think we're coming in where we're going to see this light shine as we surrender and 239 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:14,240 come into that place with the Father, that we're going to see things flipped over by 240 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:20,520 His grace that in no way we could have ever done by ourselves. 241 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:27,960 He is about to move in our nations and He is, I tell you, He is moving in our nations 242 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,040 where He is flipping things. 243 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,120 He can save a nation in a day. 244 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:38,800 And I think we're all going to be very surprised by some of the things that we're going to 245 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,840 see, what is yet to be exposed. 246 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:51,960 And furthermore, who and what God has got in place to bring His kingdom forth and see 247 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:57,080 really like a rebirthing of our nations in Him, in the kingdom. 248 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,840 I know I've tried to convey to my listeners the importance of us partnering with God that, 249 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,400 yes, God can do anything He wants. 250 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,160 He can zap anything into existence anytime He wants, but most often He chooses to work 251 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,920 through His people. 252 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,440 Can you expand on that? 253 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Yes. 254 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,520 I mean, I look at it this way. 255 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,520 We are all His. 256 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,640 I mean, He is in each one of us. 257 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,000 And every gift, everything that is within us, since He knew us before the beginning 258 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,080 of time, each and every gift is important. 259 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:40,160 And I always say, if you look at a combine, out in the farmers, a combine, every part 260 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,840 of that combine is important to bring in the harvest. 261 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,640 And which bearing are you not going to grease? 262 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:52,320 You have one bearing go out, it'll bring that whole combine to a stop and it'll impede 263 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,480 the harvest that it's called the pullion. 264 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:03,280 And so when I look and I see so many of God's people still really unsure of where they're 265 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,840 called to and what they're to do, it's almost like there's an identity crisis because so 266 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:14,400 many Christians have been, if you're coming to the church and it's so often been, you 267 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,600 see the works kind of part where a lot of times it's been driven by works and it's 268 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,600 not. 269 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,720 I mean, we're saved by grace, we're called by grace and we function by grace. 270 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:31,400 So as we get our identity as beloved sons and daughters figured out that out of that 271 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:38,600 place of a son and a daughter, we began to just be who we are and function just as we 272 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,600 are. 273 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,120 But now that's something else because it's not out of a performance based thing. 274 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,000 It's not about trying to work our way into heaven. 275 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,560 This is just being the expression that God has created us to be. 276 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:59,740 And so we're out meeting after meeting and we find people that have kind of gotten stuck 277 00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:07,320 in religion without that personal relationship with God. 278 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:15,440 And that only come as we spend time with him, as we carve out those moments in our day in 279 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:21,640 prayer, in seeking him that really starts to unfold. 280 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,680 And then as we do that, he will not deny that and he'll come and he'll ignite places in 281 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,360 us we didn't even know existed. 282 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:29,360 Right. 283 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:30,360 Right. 284 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:33,200 That's how I found myself doing everything I've ever done for the kingdom of God, teaching 285 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,800 Bible and getting on radio and writing books. 286 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,280 I never aspired to that myself. 287 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,880 They were things that the Lord led me to that I could not refrain from doing. 288 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,320 I was compelled in a very good way by the Lord to take action using the gifts and talents 289 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,820 he's given me. 290 00:21:48,820 --> 00:21:55,040 And one of the things I've seen as a trend in the church in modern days has been for 291 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,800 the leadership of the churches to help people identify their gifts and talents through different 292 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:05,180 assessment tests so that they can use those gifts and talents serving within the four 293 00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:06,180 walls of the church. 294 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:08,880 But that's not what we're coming into with 2024. 295 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,880 No. 296 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,680 We're called to the public square. 297 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,440 And Pam, I tell you, we're in meetings. 298 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,120 And I mean, I'm going to say that they may look like a political meeting on the outside 299 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,120 sometimes. 300 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:27,200 But honestly, we're going into these meetings talking about God as, you know, basically 301 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,360 one people, one blood, one nation under God. 302 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:40,560 And we're talking about the ecclesia and, you know what, the sacred and the secular, 303 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,520 there's been a wall built between them. 304 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,520 And we're kicking that down because God is not an indifferent bystander. 305 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:54,760 And so when we go and we start to talk about God's sovereignty and how he is putting, 306 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:00,080 knocking this wall down before the sacred and the secular, Pam, we're in meetings where 307 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000 the Holy Spirit shows up. 308 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,520 I start shaking a few hands and giving people a hug or two and the Holy Spirit releases 309 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,520 words of knowledge. 310 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,760 He releases his spirit. 311 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,840 People are getting healed. 312 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,820 People are getting delivered, laying on the floor, laid out by the Holy Spirit in these 313 00:23:16,820 --> 00:23:20,920 meetings in the public square. 314 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:27,360 You know, people driving four hours to come to a meeting because they hear something's 315 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,320 going on. 316 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:35,760 And this is what God shows up and he shows off when we're bold enough and we're brave 317 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,760 enough. 318 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,480 Like, we'll move at the speed of our obedience with him. 319 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:48,760 And he is not holding back. 320 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:54,240 Barry's prophecies about the Lord shaking everything that can be shaken are echoed by 321 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,340 many other trusted modern-day prophets. 322 00:23:57,340 --> 00:24:01,580 And this is so that God can root out the deep-seated evil. 323 00:24:01,580 --> 00:24:07,440 And true to 2 Peter 417, the shaking unto judgment begins with the Church, begins with 324 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,080 the house of the Lord. 325 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Barry's advice for us to humble ourselves and live lives in complete surrender to God 326 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,600 is sage. 327 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,240 It is a narrow way. 328 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:22,200 And I, for one, would much rather humble myself before God than to have God humble me before 329 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,320 men. 330 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:29,040 I happened to have transcribed Barry's prophecy that was given in January 2021. 331 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,800 And it is remarkable what he said then given what we are experiencing today. 332 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,440 Listen to just the first paragraph. 333 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,760 Quote, fasten your seatbelts. 334 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,160 This is going to be the ride of your life. 335 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,960 I have begun to dismantle some of the most evil structures that have ever existed. 336 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Many have said that it cannot be done. 337 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,080 They say they're too powerful. 338 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,060 They say it will never change. 339 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:53,680 They say it does not matter the color of the team. 340 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,240 They're all the same. 341 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,800 Corrupt, greedy, vile, and immoral. 342 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,000 It is for this reason that I am dismantling things as you've known them. 343 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,600 I tell you that I will not relent and I will not stop until everything that can be shaken 344 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,360 will be shaken. 345 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:14,160 The deep state that has ruled over the United States of America and every other nation around 346 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,100 the world shall be dealt with swiftly. 347 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:23,340 The ties to the ancient orders, the occult, fake gods, and false religions shall be exposed 348 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:25,660 for all to see and understand. 349 00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:31,180 And furthermore, I shall dismantle and destroy these at the sound of my name. 350 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:35,960 Let it be known on this day that I am coming to deal with these evil leaders once and for 351 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,960 all. 352 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,000 For far too long they have oppressed and controlled my people. 353 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,680 I'm dismantling their alliances, their power structures, and their regional strongholds 354 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,000 from New York to California. 355 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,440 You will see my hand at work." 356 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,680 End quote. 357 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Praise God for His graciousness to forewarn us through His obedient prophets. 358 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,640 If you would like to read the entire prophecy from 2021, use the link in the show notes 359 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,840 to download the PDF. 360 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,600 In light of the new year of 2024, Barry's pastoral suggestion for each of us to do a 361 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,840 personal heart audit, or you might call it a soul audit, is timely. 362 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,380 The way we position ourselves at the start of the year will be an important determinant 363 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:23,860 for how we will experience the rest of the year. 364 00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:29,180 God is offering deliverance, inner healing, and physical healing, as Barry stated, and 365 00:26:29,180 --> 00:26:34,160 other trusted prophets have revealed, we can and should have faith to believe for complete 366 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,160 renewals of our body, mind, and soul. 367 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,740 One of my more popular blogs is about being healed from soul wounds. 368 00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:46,840 If you or someone you love are in need of this, be sure to use the link in my show notes 369 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,360 to read that blog. 370 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:53,380 I loved the statement Barry made, which was, we will move with the speed of our obedience 371 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:54,820 to God. 372 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:59,800 God already offers us everything we need to live in complete victory over all the schemes 373 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160 and plans of the enemy. 374 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,800 Our belief or faith and obedience are the only two issues that stand in our way. 375 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,400 I truly want you to have everything God offers you, so I ask you to understand the major 376 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,120 significance of these times and this year of 2024. 377 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:24,520 Barry referred to 2024 as a transitional year with specific reference to Isaiah 60. 378 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:31,640 So for your benefit, I ask you to read Isaiah 60, seeking to have great depths of understanding 379 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:37,460 that as a Christian, we are adopted into God's family, meaning we share in the heritage and 380 00:27:37,460 --> 00:27:39,680 inheritance of Israel. 381 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,840 In this time of transition into the New Year, let's do much like the Jewish people do before 382 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,840 their New Year, which is to search our hearts before the Lord, let him reveal anything in 383 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,920 us that would prevent us from receiving all he wants to give us so that not only do we 384 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,320 live in the complete victory Christ died to give us, but we can help others understand 385 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:06,800 the vital importance of getting their lives right before God through faith in Jesus Christ. 386 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,560 I sincerely hope my podcasts are helping you better live the abundant life God wants for 387 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:19,040 his children and that in 2024 you will indeed experience a very happy New Year for you and 388 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,760 your family. 389 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Next week I'll present part three of my interview with Prophet Barry Wunsch, known as the Canadian 390 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,040 Hammer. 391 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,000 As always, my goal with this podcast is to help us gain spiritual victory over life's 392 00:28:31,000 --> 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