1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,960 Greetings once again to this edition of Faith to Live By. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:09,200 I'm Pam Christian, the researcher, writer, producer, and host of this program where we 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,640 explore current events from a biblical and prophetic perspective so we, as God's people, 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,020 know how He wants us to respond. 5 00:00:17,020 --> 00:00:20,560 I have a very different kind of challenge with today's podcast. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,520 This episode is posting at a time where there has been several date-specific prophecies. 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,880 Many people, myself included, have shared we've sensed the months of June, July, and 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,800 August would be months that essentially set up the month of September and into the end 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,240 of the year where we would see God's intervention. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Tim Sheets has said similar and Barry Wunsch also expressed he expected God's undeniable 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,660 thumbprint on the month of September. 12 00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:50,040 You can hear about this as I shared on my previous podcasts. 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,980 I will also be sharing about these prophecies with next week's podcast and how we are expecting 14 00:00:54,980 --> 00:00:58,680 them to position God's people through the end of the year. 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Additionally, although not tied to prophecy, there has been a lot of speculation about 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,320 the October 4th date the Federal Communications Commission has announced would be the primary 17 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:13,760 date for testing the Emergency Alert System or the EAS. 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:19,480 On August 3rd, 2023, the Federal Communications Commission or FCC released a public notice 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,760 to announce that the Federal Emergency Management Agency or FEMA, in coordination with the 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:32,200 FCC, will conduct nationwide tests on the Emergency Alert System and the Wireless Emergency 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Alert System. 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:40,240 The tests are scheduled for October 4th, 2023 at approximately 2.20 p.m. Eastern Daylight 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,040 Time with a backup test date of October 11th, 2023. 24 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,440 In addition to this press release, I also found another specific to the EAS testing 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,980 in Puerto Rico. 26 00:01:50,980 --> 00:01:54,840 The details for that you can find in the show notes along with the others. 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,480 And I expect there are many similar tests announced in most countries around the world 28 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,620 given what I've learned about the likely reason for the Emergency Alert System tests. 29 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:08,560 While some in mainstream media would have us believe the tests are so there is not a 30 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,200 failure of Emergency Alerts such as there was in Maui, nothing could be further from 31 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,380 the truth. 32 00:02:14,380 --> 00:02:18,400 If your country has announced an Emergency System testing, please let me know with a 33 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:24,080 link to the official announcement such as I provided here from the US FEMA site. 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,960 My email address is faithtoliveby at pamelachristianministries.com. 35 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,800 This podcast episode first posts on October 4th at 4 o'clock in the morning Pacific Time, 36 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,520 meaning I have no experiential knowledge of what will take place today. 37 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,080 So I am preparing this episode with the Lord's help in understanding what He wants us to 38 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,220 know about events leading up to today and what He wants us to know about what we can 39 00:02:48,220 --> 00:02:50,720 expect in the future. 40 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,980 To seek understanding of our current times from God's perspective is something each 41 00:02:54,980 --> 00:02:58,380 and every Christian needs to attempt always. 42 00:02:58,380 --> 00:03:02,960 Our relationship with God must be personal and direct and never vicarious through other 43 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,040 people. 44 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,600 The people God ordains as prophets, apostles, evangelists, pastors, and teachers must never 45 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,260 become an intermediary for Christians. 46 00:03:13,260 --> 00:03:18,200 They must never be allowed to operate in between our personal intimate relationship with God. 47 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,480 They are given to assist us in drawing closer to God. 48 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:28,400 God intends for each and every one of us as His children to have an independent, intimate 49 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,520 relationship with Him while at the same time having an interdependent relationship with 50 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,860 Him and one another. 51 00:03:35,860 --> 00:03:40,280 Some have explained this as the sign of the cross with our independent relationship with 52 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:46,120 God being the vertical beam and our interdependent relationship with one another being the horizontal 53 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,640 beam clearly intersecting with God in the middle. 54 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,200 So as you personally seek the Lord to know what He wants you to understand and how He 55 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,640 wants you to specifically respond to current events, allow me to help us explore what others 56 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:05,240 have said first about October 4th and then what people have said about the months leading 57 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,520 up to the end of this year. 58 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,200 First some very important foundation. 59 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,860 You know we live in the natural world that is governed by the spiritual world. 60 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:19,480 The natural world is temporary whereas the spiritual world is eternal. 61 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:25,300 What we experience in this natural world is first determined by the spiritual realm. 62 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:29,180 What determines the spiritual events that are played out in the natural world are three 63 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:34,300 things God, Satan, and each one of us. 64 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:39,640 It is the will of God, the will of Satan, and the will of mankind that determines what 65 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,460 is experienced in our natural world. 66 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:46,420 I think most people have an understanding of what I just said but perhaps they've not 67 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:49,560 so simply considered this truth. 68 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Likewise I think all people know we live in a world where both evil and good coexist but 69 00:04:54,440 --> 00:05:00,240 I don't think people have properly understood our role in either the promotion of good or 70 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,420 the promotion of evil. 71 00:05:02,420 --> 00:05:07,720 This is why God has been so long suffering and gracious in providing us several proven 72 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,360 prophets and apostles many of whom have published several prophecies and strategies to guide 73 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,640 us through these unprecedented times. 74 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:23,060 Please think back to the years before COVID-19 as far back as 50 years ago and consider the 75 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:29,260 ignorance of the people worldwide about the extent of evil that we now know was taking 76 00:05:29,260 --> 00:05:33,480 place right in our midst without our knowing. 77 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,380 The vast majority of people all over the globe were unaware of the extent of evil being planned 78 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:45,460 against us by the self-appointed super wealthy elite in positions of high political power. 79 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:49,920 Why have the people of the world awakened to the truth of the extent of evil? 80 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Because God has been intricately at work in the affairs of mankind exposing evil and corruption 81 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:02,160 wherever it exists to cause us to know the truth, to reveal which of us will choose to 82 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,760 be aligned with God and those who won't. 83 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:12,620 As I've understood God's plan, since mid-March 2020 through September 2023 we have experienced 84 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:16,160 three and one half years of God exposing evil. 85 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,400 What is the significance of three and a half years? 86 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:24,040 Well, we read in the book of Revelation of the great end time tribulation being separated 87 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,860 into two three and one half year periods. 88 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:32,780 Many have speculated that we are living right now in the end times and there are many convincing 89 00:06:32,780 --> 00:06:34,560 evidences for this conclusion. 90 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,140 However, there are many others like myself who do not see the present times as the end 91 00:06:40,140 --> 00:06:46,280 times God reveals in the Bible, but rather a foreshadow of those final days for earth 92 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:47,680 and humanity. 93 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,680 In any event, we should always live our lives each and every day as though this could be 94 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:59,680 our personal last, ready to leave this temporary world for the eternal world at any moment. 95 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,200 This is how the early church or better stated the Ecclesia lived, expecting either their 96 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,340 personal lives would be taken or Christ would return at any minute. 97 00:07:09,340 --> 00:07:14,360 Imagine the kind of independent and interdependent relationships Christians had in the years 98 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,240 following Christ's life on earth. 99 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Imagine the love and unity and fierce determination to not allow anything of this evil world to 100 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:29,720 interfere with their allegiance to God through faith in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit. 101 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:35,240 Think of the great demonstrations of faith, the miracles, signs and wonders that followed 102 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,500 the genuinely devoted Christians of that day. 103 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:43,720 How I would love for that to happen again in our lifetime. 104 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,240 So to begin, let's talk about October 4th. 105 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,200 There has been much speculation about what the real agenda is for the FCC testing the 106 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,360 Emergency Alert System, also known as the Emergency Broadcasting System, on October 107 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,360 4th. 108 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,760 And since this date occurs in the last quarter of this year, when prophetically it has been 109 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:09,640 expected we will actually see God's unprecedented intervention in the affairs of humanity, many 110 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,420 wonder what the spiritual implications of this FCC testing on October 4th could be. 111 00:08:15,420 --> 00:08:20,160 We know about the efforts spearheaded by the World Economic Forum, the United Nations and 112 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,280 the World Health Organization to gain world control and establish a one-world government. 113 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,320 This is a significant part of the evil we have become aware of thanks to God's intervention 114 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,320 already. 115 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,560 We know they are planning to impose another pandemic crisis on the world as their last 116 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:41,640 ditch effort to accomplish their goals are imminent. 117 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,920 They've been very public about the next pandemic and their intention to govern the world as 118 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,360 a result. 119 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:53,000 My recent guest, James Rogusky, has been instrumental in helping us keep informed and calling us 120 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:58,880 to action to prevent the World Health Organization from taking over world health care. 121 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,900 If you haven't already taken the recommended action steps, please, by all means, see the 122 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,900 information in the show notes and do everything you can. 123 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:11,180 This impacts us today and all future generations. 124 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:16,600 We know about the recent promotion of additional so-called vaccinations that have no evidence 125 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,160 to be necessary for anything other than reducing the world population. 126 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:26,000 The claims I just made, if made a little more than three and a half years ago, would have 127 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,400 been sneered and laughed at as conspiracy theory. 128 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:35,660 But God has allowed us to see that conspiracy is not theory, it is indeed fact. 129 00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:40,680 It's the same in these times of intentional deception and censorship of truth. 130 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:44,420 I have to be very cautious and ask you to do the same. 131 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:48,680 We can't believe everything we hear, neither should we bury our heads in the sand and pretend 132 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:50,860 there is no evil. 133 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:57,780 Before I share what I've learned that I clearly state is conjecture and speculation and forecasts 134 00:09:57,780 --> 00:10:02,880 from others who represent themselves to be highly informed, I want us to recall the many 135 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,660 prophetic warnings. 136 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:11,800 God has given His people to proactively decree and declare what He says to activate our protection. 137 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,200 God says no weapon formed against us can prosper. 138 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,080 God says we have all the authority and power over all the works of the enemy by the shed 139 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:27,700 blood of Jesus Christ and greater is He who is in us than he who is in the world. 140 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:32,420 These are just some of the promises of God we must proclaim over our lives and our loved 141 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:35,820 ones as world events intensify. 142 00:10:35,820 --> 00:10:41,080 Make certain you have your spiritual armor on and that you are wielding it in these days. 143 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Also take every natural precaution you can. 144 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:50,740 Do not allow you or others around you to respond with fear, but with a steely confidence and 145 00:10:50,740 --> 00:10:53,200 faith in God. 146 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,640 So here's what I've learned and I emphatically ask you to pray about and to prepare for based 147 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,480 on what you decide before God. 148 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Your personal relationship with God, in this point in time more than any other, is literally 149 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,040 vital. 150 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Dr. Jane Ruby recently reminded her audience that the C-19 shots contained dangerous materials 151 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,060 which she identified. 152 00:11:17,060 --> 00:11:22,440 She highlighted concern that is circulating over the internet about the October 4th Emergency 153 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:28,340 Alert System testing and the potential impact on those who took the C-19 jab. 154 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:33,500 She expressed concern is for the directed energy the FCC will be issuing through our 155 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:38,920 cell phones and cell-supported devices more than concern for what will be done for the 156 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,720 testing through the radio and television devices. 157 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,500 Her guest, Kent Lewis, is a researcher familiar with the topic for a long time and he weighs 158 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:50,800 in with his emergency report. 159 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,540 Additionally, in prior shows, guest Todd Callender from Vax Choice explained he had reviewed 160 00:11:56,540 --> 00:11:59,720 Lewis's report and confirms it's spot on. 161 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Now I refuse to be among those who are garnering fear. 162 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,720 At the same time, the evil that has progressed in our world is staggering. 163 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Also, both Julie Green of Julie Green Ministries International and LT from And We Know explored 164 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,640 the planned events for October 4th. 165 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,680 I've provided links in the show notes for you to learn more from them. 166 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:25,120 I encourage you to listen to all the shows I've listed with Dr. Jane Ruby and that of 167 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,560 Julie Green and LT. 168 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:32,640 I also encourage you to earnestly seek the Lord about how he wants you to respond on 169 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,160 your own behalf and on behalf of your loved ones. 170 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:42,360 What I conclude about the October 4th and the 11th EAS testing is that both are a dry 171 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:49,420 run for a greater invasion proponents of the One World Government want to impose. 172 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:56,240 At this point, I think evil is using technology to enslave people through injections and implants 173 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:02,800 that will be activated by radio frequencies primarily through our smart cell phones. 174 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Those who are not injected or implanted and those who have eGoogle phones or old-fashioned 175 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:13,840 flip phones are, as I understand it, in far less danger. 176 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:19,840 What I plan to do is turn my cell phone off very early in the day on both the 4th and 177 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,560 the 11th of October. 178 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:27,080 I also plan to crumple tin foil as much as possible while still being able to uncrumple 179 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,080 it. 180 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Then I will wrap my cell phone in two layers of the foil and place the cell phone in the 181 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,120 microwave for the vast majority of the day. 182 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,840 This is to create an effective makeshift Faraday bag. 183 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,480 If you have a Faraday bag, then use it instead and place anything that causes radio frequency 184 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,320 into that bag to protect it from the radio emitted frequencies. 185 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,840 I plan to buy a Faraday bag for my loved ones for future use and, if you want to as well, 186 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,200 check out the link I have in the show notes. 187 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,280 I also plan on turning off any and all devices in my possession that are connected to the 188 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,400 internet. 189 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:10,240 I ask you to pray about what you will do to protect yourself and your loved ones. 190 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Last week I shared that Clay Clark would be my guest today and he is. 191 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,280 However, because of the importance of making sure you're informed about the EAS testing, 192 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,360 what you'll hear is just part one of my interview with Clay. 193 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:28,060 Considering all the efforts of the proponents of One World Government, Clay is encouraging 194 00:14:28,060 --> 00:14:34,280 us to make certain we each one get into God's Word, to know what it says, and to be completely 195 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,680 aligned with God and His ways to escape the evil in our day. 196 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Clay is the founder of the Reawaken America Tour and I'm very pleased to know and support 197 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:50,320 all that Clay has been doing to help people wake up to the truth about God, our government, 198 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,560 and current world events. 199 00:14:52,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Here's my interview with Clay Clark. 200 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Clay Clark, I want to thank you once again for being on my podcast and letting us hear 201 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,320 your perspective on things. 202 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,640 You've been busy for several years, about three years I think it is, with the Reawaken 203 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,080 America Tour and you actually started out the Reawaken America Tour wanting to help 204 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,160 your clients because they didn't know how to face what was going on with their businesses 205 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,160 closed, right? 206 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,040 Yeah, and everybody out there, if you go to Thrivetimeshow.com and you go there and you 207 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,920 look at the clients, they're real people. 208 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,860 Everybody out there, we have different business models, but my model is people pay my business 209 00:15:32,860 --> 00:15:38,440 $1,700 a month, so $1,700 per month, to help them grow their business. 210 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,880 We have 160 clients and we help these companies grow. 211 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:48,400 Pizzerias, dentistry, attorneys, home builders, and they all grow because we teach them best 212 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,400 practice systems. 213 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,240 And we don't talk about religion, we don't talk about politics, we talk about how to 214 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,280 sell more houses, how to sell more dentistry. 215 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,120 Well then when the lockdowns happened, my clients said to me, hey Clay, how am I going 216 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,600 to grow my business if I'm supposed to be closed? 217 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,380 And I said, well, my pro tip for you is it's hard to be open if you're closed. 218 00:16:06,380 --> 00:16:09,120 So let's stay open and I'll report back to you. 219 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,960 Give me just seven days and I'll come back to you. 220 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,200 I meet with my clients weekly. 221 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,800 And I said, I'll come back to you and I'll have answers for you. 222 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,360 So I did my research and I discovered very quickly, these are all facts anyone can easily 223 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,120 find and prove right now. 224 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,000 But the models that said 2.2 million people would die from COVID, those models were false 225 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 by 25 times. 226 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,320 And so if you don't know that, if you haven't seen that, you just go to time to freeamerica.com 227 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,480 and I have a button that says the truth about the COVID-19 models. 228 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Well, then I told my clients, hey, listen, don't worry about it. 229 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,600 The models are false by 25 times. 230 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:45,680 And so also the PCR tests, the polymerase chain reaction tests, those can be falsely 231 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 calibrated or misused to inflate the number of cases. 232 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,520 And we know this because the inventor of the PCR test, Kerry Mullis, has said this on camera 233 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,920 on multiple occasions. 234 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,360 If the inventor thinks they can be falsely calibrated, they can. 235 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,680 And COVID is treatable with hydroxychloroquine. 236 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,080 And we know this because it's on the NIH website. 237 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:09,760 And finally, the system method for testing for COVID-19 was actually patented in 2015. 238 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,480 So if you just type into Google today, system and method for testing for COVID-19, you'll 239 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,900 discover that that was patented in 2015. 240 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:21,320 So if all those things are true, and they are, you start to say, wait a minute, this 241 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,120 seems like a plan. 242 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:27,440 And so that kind of got me into the more of the biblical implications of what was going 243 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,840 on and finding myself trying to catch up with people like you who devoted large periods 244 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,120 of your lifetime to studying the Bible and really sharing the truth and how it applies 245 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,280 to our lives. 246 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,680 And so that's how the Reawakened America Tour started. 247 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Well, I'm really glad that it did because you have been instrumental. 248 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,640 God has really used you and the people you're working with to wake people up to the truth. 249 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:54,160 My first book in my series is called Examine Your Faith, Finding Truth in a World of Lies. 250 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,840 And the catalyst for that was my realization of how people have been lied to and programmed 251 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,160 and that we're unaware of it. 252 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,720 So you and I are made of the same cloth a little bit in that way. 253 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,920 Well, I'm so glad to be here on your program. 254 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,520 And what I wanted to do today is I want to just challenge people to think today. 255 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Now I'm not asking everyone to agree with what I'm saying. 256 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,080 I'm just going to give you facts and then I think we could all think about it today. 257 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,920 And so if you go to time to freeamerica.com today, folks, and you click on a button, we 258 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,320 have it says 77 and it's always changing. 259 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,640 So it might be 78, but 77 biblical signs of the times. 260 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,440 I'm just going to fire off some signs of the times. 261 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,280 I don't feel to really think through these things. 262 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,760 So you open up your Bible today, folks, to the book of Daniel. 263 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,200 Now for everybody out there that doesn't know, Daniel and the book of Revelation, they kind 264 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,240 of fit together almost like they're a puzzle. 265 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,160 If you've read Revelation, Daniel, they fit together. 266 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,040 So okay, it's kind of like a brother sister book and the book of Daniel, it says here, 267 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,060 this would be Daniel chapter 12 verse 11. 268 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:56,320 It says, and from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination 269 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:03,120 that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 270 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:08,800 Now, many people, not everybody, but many people believe the pausing of the sacrifice 271 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:15,680 or the stopping of the sacrifice happens to be what happened on March 11th of 2020 when 272 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,880 the declaration of the COVID pandemic occurred worldwide. 273 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,280 It wasn't a local thing. 274 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,520 It was a worldwide thing. 275 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,400 Now, somebody else out there disagrees. 276 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,400 That's okay. 277 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,520 I'm just trying to get you into the Bible. 278 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,380 So if you read Daniel chapter 12 verse 11, it says, and from the time that the daily 279 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:34,520 sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination that make a desolate set up, there should 280 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,840 be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 281 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,920 So if you look at it and you say March 11th, 2020 was when the sacrifice was stopped. 282 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Well, add on to that one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 283 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:53,800 And now you're looking at when you're looking at September 22nd of this year. 284 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,280 So does that matter? 285 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,160 Well, you're starting to see a lot of movies, predictive programming. 286 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,480 They always talk about September 23rd as being this day we need to look out for. 287 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,360 You're starting to see a lot of people that are not necessarily Christians warning us 288 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:11,040 that there seems to be something brewing in September. 289 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,120 So whether somebody agrees with what I'm saying, that's okay. 290 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,200 I'm not going to get hung up on that, but I'm encouraging you to read the Bible. 291 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,200 Now we move on. 292 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,880 Are we as humankind, are we beginning to see the fulfillment of the prophecies of Second 293 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Timothy, Chapter three, verse one through five, which reads this know also that in the last 294 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:35,080 days, perilous times shall come for men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous boasters, 295 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:40,040 proud blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful and holy without natural affection, 296 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:45,160 truce breakers, false accusers and continent fears, despisers of those that are good traders, 297 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,480 heady, high minded lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, 298 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,920 denying the power thereof from such turn away. 299 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:58,240 I think we can all agree that Second Timothy, Chapter three, verse one through five is happening. 300 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,720 And Pamela, let me get your thoughts on just those two, those first two points, a lot of 301 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,560 information there, but I just want to get your thoughts on it. 302 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,160 Well, I do have a question and I'm sure it's the same question that my audience would have. 303 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,440 On what basis are people saying that March 11th was the day that the daily sacrifices 304 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,800 were taken away because there could be an argument made for that to be in 70 AD when 305 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,520 the Jewish temple was destroyed? 306 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:25,760 Well, worldwide, we were basically not allowed to get together and to go to church or synagogue 307 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,840 or houses of worship. 308 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,680 And so there are many people, I'm not super hung up on this point, but there are a lot 309 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,080 of theologians that are going, that has to be March 11th, 2020. 310 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Now some people disagree. 311 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,120 And what I'm saying is I think it's important that we read the Bible. 312 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:47,080 So regardless of where you fall on that point, I think the point I have is that most of us 313 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,080 haven't read it. 314 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,600 So a lot of us are letting these theologians debate these ideas having never read the Bible. 315 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,640 I mean, I think a lot of times, Pam, I think people would go to churches today where the 316 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,160 book of Daniel is never discussed and the book of Revelation is never discussed. 317 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Right. 318 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,440 In fact, biblical illiteracy is at an all time high. 319 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,860 So I'm right with you, Clay, and having people read the Bible for themselves instead of accepting 320 00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:11,120 what somebody else tells them the Bible says. 321 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:15,920 And somebody could listen to what I just said and say, dude, you are a hundred percent wrong. 322 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,920 And I'm okay with that. 323 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,160 I'm not hung up on that, to your point. 324 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,920 I'm just saying we need to read the Bible. 325 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Now I am hung up on the next one, though, 2 Timothy chapter 3 verse 1 through 5. 326 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:31,040 I am hung up on the idea that men shall be lovers of themselves, boasters, proud, blasphemers. 327 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,240 I mean, the idea of the word selfie. 328 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,600 I know people right now that you can't have a dinner with them without them taking a photo 329 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040 of themselves the entire time. 330 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:45,100 Like they seem to be so absorbed with themselves that they can't have a conversation with you. 331 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,100 It's a really bizarre thing. 332 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:50,520 I'm starting to see men that are my age that take their shirt off and post a picture of 333 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,680 themselves on Instagram and women that are my age doing the same kind of behavior. 334 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,680 And you're going, what are you doing? 335 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,080 You know, you're a 42 year old woman, 43 year old guy. 336 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,120 Why are you wearing almost nothing and posting photos of yourself? 337 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,200 Why are you sending that to people? 338 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,560 You know, I have a very good friend. 339 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,560 I won't get myself in trouble, but people I've known from college and his wife will 340 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,840 like send you messages and he'll send you messages and every, every image it's like 341 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,080 they're taking a selfie, taking a photo. 342 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,080 They're half naked. 343 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,640 And I'm going, what is that? 344 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,480 And that's just people that I know, you know, and then you start to talk about kids talking 345 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,480 back to their parents. 346 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,640 I mean, do we not see children today that are, are disobedient to their parents? 347 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Are we not seeing blasphemers? 348 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,480 I mean, you have, you've all know a Harare. 349 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,980 Think about the pop music culture today. 350 00:23:35,980 --> 00:23:40,680 Think about the music performances of Taylor Swift and Katy Perry and Lady Gaga. 351 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,400 Think about the blasphemy that's on display. 352 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,400 Think about the satanic symbolism that LeBron James does before every basketball game. 353 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,080 So I think maybe more people could agree with that second point. 354 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,920 I'd love to get your thoughts on that. 355 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,240 Maybe some people would disagree, but do you think that that second point there that we 356 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,880 might just be sitting in Timothy being fulfilled? 357 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Absolutely. 358 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:04,240 And I think that people can make a claim that this has been going on for a long time, that 359 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,240 these very same factors that are in second Timothy chapter three versus one to five have 360 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,960 been going on for a long time. 361 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,000 But we're living in a time where there's a greatest population on the earth ever, which 362 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,520 means that the intensity of this kind of ungodly behavior is evident. 363 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560 So I agree with that completely. 364 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,940 And I also have had many reasons to point to September as being a month that God is 365 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:28,920 going to work very powerfully in. 366 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:38,920 Clearly, Clay thinks we are actually in the end times. 367 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,800 And yet he openly states he doesn't mind if anyone disagrees with him. 368 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,120 And based on what I shared at the start of today's program, I believe it's important 369 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:52,720 for each one of us to live as though this is our last day, every day, and be completely 370 00:24:52,720 --> 00:25:00,020 ready to meet our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, either in heaven or at His second coming. 371 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:04,320 If I'm right, however, and we are living in the times that are a foreshadow to the end 372 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,600 of times, then we have to ask God, what do you want us to learn from everything we're 373 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,720 experiencing? 374 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,600 Each of our personal lists will differ. 375 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,960 But one thing we must share in common is the importance of reaching as many people with 376 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,080 the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ as possible and teaching the younger generations 377 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:31,320 not to forget how God has faithfully intervened in the affairs of His people and how He always 378 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,760 deals with sin when it reaches a point of fulfillment, ever since the beginning of time. 379 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Ours is to choose with whom we want to be aligned. 380 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,460 As I shared in the beginning of this podcast, we live in the natural world that is governed 381 00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:47,320 by the spiritual world. 382 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,800 The natural world is temporary, whereas the spiritual world is eternal. 383 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,140 What we experience in this natural world is first determined in the spiritual realm. 384 00:25:57,140 --> 00:26:02,160 What determines spiritual realm events that are played out in this natural world are three 385 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,880 things, God, Satan, and each one of us. 386 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,320 It is the will of God, the will of Satan, and the will of mankind that determines what 387 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,920 is experienced in our natural world. 388 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,060 Either we choose to be aligned with God and His ways or not. 389 00:26:21,060 --> 00:26:28,560 To attempt not to choose at all is by default to align with Satan and his evil ways. 390 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Okay, that concludes today's podcast for part one of my interview with Clay Clark to help 391 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,680 us consider what the Bible says about the last days and to discern where we might be 392 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,740 on God's timeline. 393 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:45,960 Be sure to listen next week when I present part two of my interview with Clay Clark. 394 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,100 If you like what you hear from me with this podcast, I highly recommend my book series, 395 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:54,200 my award-winning blog, connecting with me on social media where I cover many more topics 396 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,800 than I can with this weekly podcast, 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