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Greetings and welcome to this edition of Faith to Live By. I'm Pam Christian, your host each

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and every week with this podcast, where I seek to help us explore current events from

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a biblical and prophetic perspective, so we, as God's children, know how He wants us to

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respond.

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I am among those God has allowed to bring you truth in these times when deception and

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evil are running rampant. Whether we want it or not, the truth is we are in a battle

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of good versus evil. This is an ancient battle that began in the heavenlies and exists in

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both the spiritual and natural worlds. As Christians, we must make certain we stand

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on truth and defend truth at all costs. Because Jesus said of Himself, He is the way, the

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truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him. When we defend

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truth, we defend Jesus. Jesus is the only hope anyone has to experience the victory He

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has already secured for us.

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So long as we live in this fallen world, we are subject to the ravages of sin and all

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the destruction and death sin brings. The way we experience the victory Christ died

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to give us is to appropriate it every single day. And it's imperative we understand we

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do this as a company of faithful believers in the company of God's holy angels. Ministering

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and warring angels are working in our behalf according to the degree we appropriate God's

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promises.

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None of us can fight all the many battles that are being waged against us. God has always

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wanted us to fight in unity with each one of us doing our part according to our individual

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created purpose while relying on the others in the body of Christ to do the same. I know

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many of us are feeling exceedingly weary and battle fatigued. If this is you, take time

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away from the front lines and gain your recovery by spending time with the Lord, asking Him

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to rejuvenate you.

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Consider how geese fly together over long distances in their V-formation. The front

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goose takes the position at the head of the flock for as long as he can while the others

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fly behind him. These big winged birds carefully position their wing tips and sink their flapping,

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presumably to catch the preceding bird's updraft and save energy during the flight.

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When the lead goose becomes tired, he falls back to the end of the formation and another

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takes the place of the point goose.

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This is how we need to operate in unity. If you are especially tired now, seek the Lord

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to rejuvenate you and to redirect you for the specific battles He has equipped you for

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and then return to the task of doing what you are called to do. Trust God for the other

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things that trouble you, knowing God has called someone else to tend that battle.

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We must not give up or give in or quit, especially now when we are so close to seeing the fruit

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of our labor, the substance of our faith. It is the tactic of the enemy to wear us down

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and cause us to grow weary. But if we pace ourselves and we work in tandem with our Christian

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brothers and sisters, we will not grow weary in doing good. We are seeing the frantic last

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ditch efforts of the enemy of truth working hard against us. LinkedIn removed my account

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about a year ago because I was bringing truth the tyrannical governments and their bot and

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paid for big tech and media don't want you to know.

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My Facebook account has been restricted numerous times, all in effort to prevent me from reaching

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more people and prevent me from the funding I need to operate. Censorship is happening

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all over again and in greater ways because our alternative media channels are reaching

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people with truth. YouTube has pulled Rick Renne with Blessed to Teach from their platform,

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causing him to lose connection with nearly 48,000 followers he had. And Christians are

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not the only target. Russell Brand has been censored by the UK government who wrote to

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the CEO of Rumble, asking for Brand's account to be demonetized. This response is evidence

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of the intensity of the battle we are in and the actual advances truth and righteousness

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are making, which is why God has repeatedly called us to work in unity with one another

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and all in partnership with him in this battle being played out in our times. Keep in mind

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the victory is assured, but we must appropriate it by doing what God has asked each one of

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us to do. Those of us who are on the front lines spending our time, efforts and money

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producing podcasts and more to research and bring you truth you need. Well, we need your

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support. We need your prayers. We need your help to continue doing what we are doing.

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If I'm helping you in any way, at the very least, please send me an email of encouragement.

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I can be reached at faithtoliveby at pamelachristianministries.com. And according to Proverbs 3 verse 27, do not

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withhold good from those whom it is due when it is in the power of your hand to do so.

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Make sure you are supporting those of us you actually benefit from in the ways God puts

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on your heart. Certainly telling people about this podcast and my friend Rick Renais and

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others like us helps us expand our reach through word of mouth. Sharing my podcast with others

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helps more people wake up to the truth we all want. And when you hear from God about

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offering any practical support, don't delay. Not only is it needed, but you will be blessed

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for your faithfulness. Listen to the end of my podcast each week to learn of the many

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ways I've come up with to help you get the goods and services you need while helping

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me at the same time. We all need to be pressing into the Lord,

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leaning on the Holy Spirit for His direction and empowerment. This is why I had Jared Lasky

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on last week as my guest. Jared and his wife are the co-founders of Fireborne Ministries

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that works to help people live a daily, Holy Spirit-empowered life. If you didn't hear

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that podcast, I recommend you do. The reason I had Jared on is because we are getting closer

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and closer to the time God has been warning us about and telling us to be prepared for

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when He personally intervenes in the affairs of mankind all around the world in ways He

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never has before. If ever there was a time when God's people need to be in a confident

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relationship with God, it is now. If you are the least bit discerning of spirits

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and the times, then you have to agree the days we're living in right now are highly

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tenuous. We are experiencing the early signs of the major shaking and shifting God has

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been warning us about through His trusted prophets. Much more is anticipated in the

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last days of this month and the early days of October, including some days of darkness

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where we will likely be held up in our homes. But God has said again and again, when these

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days come, do not fear. While it may look like things are worse and the enemy is winning,

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understand the enemy is already defeated. If we are sequestered in our own homes, it is

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God who is protecting us while He deals with the evil in our midst. All that we have suffered

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is God's strategic plan to bring as many people to truth as possible and to save all

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who are willing to place their faith and trust in Jesus, who is truth. At this point, as

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published by the Rasmussen Reports, nearly three-fourths of Americans believe our country

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is becoming a police state, meaning a tyrannical government that engages in mass surveillance,

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censorship, ideological indoctrination, and targeting of political opponents. This much

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alone is tremendously good news because it means nearly three-fourths of Americans are

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no longer deceived and bewitched under the evil plans of the enemy. But we must know

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the evil deception and tyrannical plans are not limited to the United States. They are

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worldwide, which is why I've had James Rogusky on my show as a guest in the past. James is

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my guest again today to discuss the very real and threatening efforts of the United Nations

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along with the World Health Organization to seize control of our nations by gaining complete

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control over our health care. If you didn't hear the podcast where James first presented

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the importance of stopping the World Health Organization, please make a point of listening

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to that and also sharing it with everyone you know. This is a very real effort that

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impacts every person on the planet now and into the future. It's imperative we are all

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properly informed what is happening, so you'll find the direct links to the three-part interview

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I did with James in the show notes. Today, James provides us with an update of the results

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of the first meeting the World Health Organization held on September 20th specific to their plans

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to gain control over the world populace. The report is somewhat bleak. However, our chances

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to stop the tyrannical government are still before us. After James' interview, I will

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comment because there are action steps we must take, so please be sure to listen to

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the end to know what you can do. And as to his background, James is a researcher, author,

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natural health proponent, and an activist who believes that the old systems are crumbling,

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so we must build the replacements quickly. In March 2022, James uncovered documents regarding

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proposed amendments to the international health regulations and was instrumental in raising

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awareness about them, which resulted in the amendments being rejected. James is now doing

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everything possible to expose the World Health Organization's hidden agenda behind their

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proposed pandemic treaty, as well as the WHO's ongoing attempts to amend the international

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health regulations. James' vision for the future can be summarized by the phrase, out

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of the WHO and in with the new. You'll find the link to his website and more in the show

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notes.

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James, welcome back. I had promised my audience we would have you back after the first meeting

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on September 20th with the World Health Organization. That's what I would like you to report on

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first of all, but we also need to be caught up on everything that's going on regarding

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our health care and how the United Nations and the World Health Organization wants to

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have control of it.

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Thank you very much for having me. This is an interesting soap opera. If you've ever

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watched a movie that had a plot twist in the middle or at the end of it, or if you started

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watching a TV series, but it had been on for a couple of years and you don't know who all

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the players are, it starts out being confusing. I'll try to clarify all of this for everybody.

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Where would you like to start?

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Well, let's start with what happened just recently. Right now, we're recording on the

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22nd of September. If you can, I'd like you to report on what took place on the 20th with

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the World Health Organization's meeting.

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If I may, I'm going to go back in time just a little bit. On September 2nd of last year,

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2022, that's when this meeting was officially scheduled. And so all of the member nations

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for over a year were busy negotiating this political declaration for pandemic prevention,

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preparedness and response. And so they had many meetings. The group from Morocco and

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Israel, interestingly enough, were in charge of shepherding the process along. And they

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had version after version after version. And on September 1st, they submitted to all of

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the many 193 nations of the UN their silence procedure version. And the way that works

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is if nobody says that they don't like it, then it can be adopted by essentially unanimous

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decision. But lo and behold, on September 17th, on Sunday, 11 nations wrote a letter

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to not the Secretary General of the United Nations, but to the President of the General

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Assembly. And I was quite astonished to actually see that they used the word pretend. They

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said they would not appreciate it, that this high level meeting that was happening on Wednesday,

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please understand the meeting on Wednesday was a high level meeting. It wasn't an official

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meeting of the General Assembly. You know, if you get that straight, you're golden. There

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was a high level meeting, bunch of mucky mucks getting together in a room having a conversation

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that's not the same as an official meeting of the General Assembly. And they said, well,

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we don't appreciate that it looks like you're trying to pretend that just having a silence

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procedure agreement at this meeting on Wednesday, that doesn't really count. That's not good

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enough. The rules say you can have your meeting, you can do whatever you want, but we're going

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to revisit this at an official General Assembly meeting. And so what happened on Wednesday

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was quite entertaining. If you understand the plot and the players and the dynamics,

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they started the meeting and right out of the gate, you know, normally you think with

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an issue like this, there would be discussion and debate and you know what they're talking

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about on this document. And then somewhere in the middle or towards the end of the meeting,

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they would say, okay, everybody's had to say what they wanted to say, we'll now vote on

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it. Well, that's not what happened. In the first five minutes, the president of the General

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Assembly called the meeting to order. He pulled up the document almost immediately. And he

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said, well, you know, I hope everybody's okay with this document, you know, it's in relation

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to the stat and the other thing. And okay, boom, hits the gavel. It has been adopted.

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Wow. Now, if you showed up five minutes late to the meeting, you missed it. And the remainder

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of the day, a good eight hours was just propaganda, just people talking, right? Oh my god, you

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would be forgiven. If you showed up five minutes late and you go, oh, well, they're debating

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all of the stuff that's in this document. I wonder when they're going to get around

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to voting on it. Well, there really was no vote. It was gaveled into adoption by the

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president. You know, the joke was, I got to get me one of those gavels. Those things look

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like they're pretty powerful. And so in my view, and in the view of Francis Boyle, who

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is a professor of constitutional law in Chicago, and he's been very, very outspoken about this,

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he saw this as an astonishing defeat because they were trying to do theater and 11 nations

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said, no, you know, we see the fact that you're trying to pull a fast one. Now they still

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did it. And the media will still be reporting that it was adopted at this high level meeting

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by the president of the general assembly. But you know, that's kind of like if you know,

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you were working for Walmart and you're sitting around in the lunchroom and you got a whole

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bunch of people and you go, Hey, do you guys all agree that, you know, Walmart should do

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this and you bash the gavel down and then you present that as if Walmart corporate had

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made a decision. There's a bunch of people talking in a room and they made it look like

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they're all in agreement. But there were people who spoke up back on Sunday via a letter.

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And I have all of this documented on my sub stack. They basically said, look, we know

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what you're going to try to do and we're not happy. And so the dynamics about what was

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in the agreement, that's a whole nother story. But as far as I'm concerned, they were trying

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to use this political declaration to show unity and support from the United Nations

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for what the WHO is attempting to do and all these other tracks. And that got derailed.

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That got blown right off the tracks. The media will still be lying about it and people will

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hear things and people will regurgitate things. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to

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give the longer version so people can actually understand just how thick this plot is.

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Let me ask you, James, and it's probably on your sub stack, but for the sake of this podcast,

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what are the names of the 11 nations?

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So the nations that signed the document will probably come as a bit of a surprise to most

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everybody. I'll just list them off. Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, the Democratic People's Republic

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of Korea, Eritrea, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Nicaragua, the Russian Federation, the

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Syrian Arab Republic, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe.

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And so there's a certain theme involved in the nations that came together. They also

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talked about the use of sanctions and how it can harm people's health because medications

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and other things are not being allowed through trade and so forth. But in any case, that's

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the list of nations that stood up and said, well, you have to follow the rules, United

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Nations and this high level meeting. And so we shall see what the president of the General

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Assembly stated very clearly was that this adoption at this meeting was subject to consideration

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at some date in the future by the full General Assembly. So we shall see if they iron out

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their differences before they have a meeting, if they ever have a meeting.

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The body language on the people from the WHO, Tedros Gabrashis and Mike Ryan and some other

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folks from the WHO had a press conference. And man, I would love if anybody in your audience

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is a body language expert to watch that press conference and give me a phone call because

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they just looked like they had gotten crushed. And now maybe I'm misreading it. I'm not a

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body language expert, but they were hoping to have a very enthusiastic raw support. And

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these 11 nations, you know, there are a bunch of wet blankets boiling their party.

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And we're very glad they did. Now, let me ask you, this is the first track, according

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to the way you've laid it out, there are four tracks. This is considered track one. They've

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had their first meeting. What, if anything, should my listeners do now specific to track

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one?

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For the most part, it was meant to be propaganda and, you know, cheerleading. And they were

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hoping for a show of unity. Now there's a whole bunch of things that people could do.

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Number one is, you know, understand what it is. And if you see any reporting on it, see

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for yourself how you're being fed misinformation or partial information. Because what many

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places are doing is they're just saying, oh, it was adopted. And that's maybe technically

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true, but it was only adopted by the president of the assembly and a bunch of people in a

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room. That's not the same as the United Nations General Assembly having an official meeting

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and voting something into their political declaration. Now they may very well still

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do that, but I've moved on to track two because track two of the deadline is December 1st.

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And if you're good with track one, we'll move on to track two.

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Absolutely. Let's do it because I'm going to have you keep my audience informed that

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we take all the actions we possibly can. So if this is next on the agenda for action items,

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let's talk about it.

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Action number two starts with almost everybody having just a horrible case of cognitive dissonance.

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What I'm about to say hurts people's heads, even though it's very straightforward. Cognitive

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dissonance means, well, you have a belief in your mind and this one's different and

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your mind doesn't want to let it in. So you got to kind of open your mind and let it in.

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Last year at the 75th World Health Assembly, where all the nations got together on May

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27th, 2022, amendments to the international health regulations were adopted. Now many

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people have heard the Biden administration had proposed amendments and those were kicked

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to the curb. But what they did is they got together with the European Union, the United

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Kingdom, Australia, a handful of other nations, and they submitted at the last minute a different

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set of amendments and those were adopted. And I've been reporting on this for months,

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but for whatever reason, the cognitive dissonance of, well, you know, what really happened?

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Well, nobody in the media at all, you know, has been reporting on what actually really

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happened. And so they did adopt amendments, only five, but they're important. And so the

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process is what everybody just does not want to accept. When the United States joined the

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WHO in 1948 and adopted the IHRS in 69 and amended them in 2005, we have agreed and every

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nation has agreed that if amendments are adopted, it is assumed that every nation will abide

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by them unless within an 18 month period, the nation specifically writes a notification

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to the WHO and says under article 61, we reject them. So it's kind of like a double negative.

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It gets everybody confused. The amendments from last year are not coming back for approval.

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The House, the Senate, not even the president, nobody needs to sign off on it. It's assumed

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that everybody's good with it unless they are proactively rejected. And so everybody's

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just been silent about it because that's easy. It's easy to do nothing and allow something

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to go into legally binding effect. And so the way this was structured was to facilitate

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that sort of laziness or procrastination as long as they keep this on the down low for

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18 months, it goes sliding right through. And so those 18 months are up on December

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1st. So, you know, I've been speaking up about this for many, many, many months. Now is as

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good a time as any to understand what it is that's going on here. I've published many

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articles about it. I'm actually going to be publishing another article to really lay this

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all out for people. Danforhealthfreedom.com has put out a bit of information this morning

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actually about it. So people can go there for a little bit of information and look to

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my sub stack for a pretty substantial article about this. The issue is there has been zero

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public discussion, zero public input, no discussion in Congress, no discussion in the Senate,

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no discussion in the media or the alternative media or any parliament or Congress anywhere

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in the world. And their goal is that, well, if we just keep this quiet until December

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1st, too late, you know, it's kind of like at a wedding, you know, speak now or forever

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hold your peace. Well, if you don't speak up before December 1st, an 18 month period

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has gone by. Now, the reason for pushing this is that the very same process applies to track

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three in which there are 300 plus amendments, things like a global digital health certification

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network and many other problematic things. People have to understand those are not coming

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back to the Senate to be given their advice and consent. If the amendments from last year

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go through, there will only be 10 months to consider rejecting those. Now, people don't

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understand that. And they say things like, oh, if they take away our sovereignty, or

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if they try to control our health care system, you know, the Senate would never stand for

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that. They would never approve it. They're never going to get the chance. They don't

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need to. They gave up that right in 1948, 1969 and 2005. And so if you have questions

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about this, give me a phone call. My phone number is 310-619-3055. Call me anytime. If

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you've looked through the information and you are confused by it, that's totally understandable.

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This is an intrigue that really could and should be a movie. If you've ever watched

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a movie where at the end there's some kind of plot twist, you're like, oh, I didn't realize

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that that's what was going on. That's where we are right now. This is the reveal of the

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plot twist. For 16 months, everybody's been snoozing around talking about everything else.

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But if you are now just becoming aware of this and it is hard to wrap your head around

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because it's just not like anything you've heard, by all means, just give me a call.

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James, what is the website specifically where my listeners can go to learn what you've done

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with your research?

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JamesRoguski.substack.com. And I'll spell it out. J-A-M-E-S-R-O-G-U-S-K-I.substack.com.

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I have many, many domain names that point to various articles, but you can find them

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all at JamesRoguski.substack.com. And again, if you have any questions, by all means, just

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give me a call.

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Now, what specifically should we be doing? Should we also prepare another letter? And

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if so, where would we direct it?

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The issue really at hand as a starting point is take the link to what you're listening

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to right now. Step number one is to properly inform other people. By all means, you can

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share information with your Congress and your senators and all that sort of stuff. Ultimately,

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the thing to understand is there is a deadline on December 1st. There's negotiations going

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on for a whole nother pile of amendments. They're having meetings for those 300 plus

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amendments from October 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. And nobody's talking about that.

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So paying attention and understanding, there have been so many rumors and so much misinformation.

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This coming week in October, they're going to be talking about many things, but among

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the things they're going to be talking about is the Global Digital Health Certification

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Network, vaccine passport, but with a fancy name.

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And so they're essentially going to be talking about how they want to be able to track and

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trace everybody and restrict their ability to travel based on what I believe are absolutely

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bogus certificates. If you're being given something called a vaccine certificate for

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an injection that doesn't stop infection and doesn't stop transmission, I have no bones

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about calling that bogus. If you're being given a certificate for a test that has shown

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to have 97% false positives, meaning something that's not really a test, the PCR process,

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is a fraudulent certificate. What they're really trying to set up is an international

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database management system to only allow you to travel if you're certified to be compliant.

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On ExitTheWho.com, we encourage everyone to reach out to your congresspeople and encourage

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them to co-sponsor HR79, which is the WHO Withdrawal Act. So that's on ExitTheWho.com.

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We've already got 52 members of Congress signed on. That's a good start, but we certainly

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need more. And on my substack, a couple of weeks ago, I published an article listing

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all of the senators' contact information to try to make it easy for everybody. Reach out

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to the senators in your state and tell them, look, we want you to copy the resolution in

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the House, because it's two separate Houses of Congress. Not one out of 100 senators yet

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has had the guts to just copy a two-page resolution. Andy Biggs' HR79 is a page and a half. Copy

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it and submit it as companion legislation in the Senate, so we can then start nagging

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all of our senators to co-sponsor that legislation in the Senate. So two very simple actions.

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ExitTheWho.com, call your congresspeople. And on my substack, there's an article, should

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be very easy to see, to contact your senators. I've tried to make it easy. Ask them to do

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the same thing in the Senate. Because the answer is, the people at the WHO don't want

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better health for we the people. They want control, and they want to do a number of nefarious

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things with these documents. It's time to leave that relationship.

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Absolutely. And I know we talked about, and I encouraged my audience before, to get their

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senators to be aware of Andy Biggs' HR79 and to do exactly what you just said. And as of

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this date, and we're so close to the importance of cutoff dates, still no one has come forward.

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Okay, audience, I'm putting a challenge before you to do exactly what my guest, James Rogusky,

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has recommended. James, we're going to have you back right after the December event and

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find out more what's going on, that we the people can have the control of our own health

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and more that we should have. Well, I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you

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very much. As you heard James explain, the World Health

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Organization held a meeting for the Political Declaration for Pandemic Prevention and Pandemic

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Preparedness and Response. It was essentially theater, and gratefully, 11 countries have

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written to express they would not accept the outcome of this unofficial meeting. What we

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can easily see from all of this are the firm intentions of the World Health Organization

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and the United Nations working with the World Economic Forum to gain world control.

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James encouraged us to contact our American senators to have them take action for America

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to exit the World Health Organization. You, who live in other countries, can and must

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do the same by contacting your appropriate government leaders. Be sure to visit James'

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website listed in the show notes to learn more and what you must demand of your government

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leaders. Through trusted prophets, God has instructed us to decree and declare His words

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so His will is done on earth as it is in heaven because God is faithful to perform His words.

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Amen. Through Julie Green, especially as of late,

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God has been instructing us, stating, number one, it's time to plunder the enemy's camp.

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Number two, we are to know a great uprising has begun in the heavenlies now being played

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out in the earth. Number three, for God's people to respond to His call to arms to take

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back what belongs to us. And number four, for us to expect to see a great fall of the

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global government. No matter how bleak things may seem, we must keep fixed firmly in our

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minds. God calls us to battle this war which we are already destined to win. Let that be

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your unwavering focus. Okay, that concludes today's podcast. Next

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and interviewing the representatives and using their products or services myself to provide

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you a personal recommendation. There's a link to all the interviews in the show notes.

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I sincerely hope you appreciate my dedication to you through these podcasts. Let me know

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how this podcast impacts you and what you're now doing in response to the equipping you've

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received through me. Again, my email is faithtoliveby at pamelachristianministries.com. If you

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like the content and resource material I bring with this podcast, you'll find much more

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by connecting with me through my blog. In fact, my blog has been awarded two unsolicited

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awards for Christian content and I'm very active on social media. I can actually cover

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more on social media than I can with this weekly podcast. And to receive even more,

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please be sure to check out my dedicated podcast listeners page called Beyond the Podcast.

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Here's where we can connect exclusively and you can download complimentary devotionals,

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resources and more. And on that page, I also ask you to help me learn more about what you

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want by completing the form visible once you scroll down the page. And I would especially

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today's episode, please subscribe, rate and review the show on iTunes, Spotify, Google

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or wherever these features are available. Your review helps the show reach more people,

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it helps spread the gospel and helps people learn how to better apply their Christian

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faith. I hope you'll join me next week and tell your friends and family to listen right

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here on Faith To Live By where we learn how to gain spiritual victory over life's issues.

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Until next week, I'm Pam Christian asking you to remember, Christ died for us. The least

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we can do is live for Him.

