1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Greetings once again to you who are my established podcast friends and welcome to you who are 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,400 visiting this podcast for the first few times. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,040 Thank you for trusting me to be a truth advocate in your life. 4 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:17,780 I work very hard each and every week to discover and bring to you life-giving truth because 5 00:00:17,780 --> 00:00:22,720 I want you to experience all the hope truth provides. 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Many people today realize they have not been living their life on the basis of truth. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Some of what they believed has been foisted upon them, they've been intentionally deceived 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,880 by various social institutions, to believe and accept different things that they are 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,240 just now realizing are not true, are not good, or right. 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,520 No one likes being lied to, so for us to come to the realization that we have been lied 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,640 to evokes all sorts of emotional responses from outrage and anger to deep feelings of 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320 betrayal and even rejection. 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,480 You are the reason I have spent the majority of my time and resources for the past nearly 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,040 three years to produce this weekly podcast. 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Each week I seek to have us explore current events from a biblical and prophetic perspective 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,840 so we as God's people know how he wants us to respond. 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,800 My heart goes out to you. 18 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,960 I want you to know the truth. 19 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:21,480 You want to know the truth. 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:27,460 No matter how shocking or devastating it is, we all want to know the truth. 21 00:01:27,460 --> 00:01:32,120 God made us to want to know truth and to want to belong. 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,400 Those are two of our basic innate human needs. 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,640 And you may have never thought about it this way, but consider how God himself is truth 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,340 and he created us to have personal relationship with him. 25 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:48,320 In other words, he himself is the answer to our needs. 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Not just these two, but all of our needs. 27 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,860 I have come to personally know this about God, which in turn has drawn me and kept me 28 00:01:56,860 --> 00:02:00,680 wanting to remain in close personal relationship with God. 29 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,360 I know firsthand God is good and he wants all of us, each and every human being made 30 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,740 in his image to personally desire to be in a right relationship with him. 31 00:02:11,740 --> 00:02:17,760 At the very least, by now, since the outbreak of the planned COVID-19 pandemic, we can all 32 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,480 agree both good and evil coexist in this world. 33 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,400 The existence of evil has been one reality that has prevented people from embracing God 34 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,000 as good. 35 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,960 They reason if God is good, then God would not let humanity and the whole world suffer 36 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,960 evil. 37 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,280 Well, that's correct. 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:43,920 And with a right understanding of the whole truth, we can conclude God is not letting 39 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:45,720 humanity suffer. 40 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:51,080 In fact, he has personally paid the price to overcome the suffering, pain and evil in 41 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,360 this world. 42 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:59,520 What's left is for people to choose, to intentionally choose to align with God in all that is good 43 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,000 or not. 44 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:09,200 And for the sake of clarity, not to intentionally choose is, by default, to side with evil. 45 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Let me share a personal quote with you for you to ponder, and this is it. 46 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:21,240 Just because God is sovereign over all does not make him responsible for all. 47 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Let me repeat that. 48 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Just because God is sovereign over all does not make him responsible for all. 49 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,520 We have been created with a free will choice, a choice to align with good or to align with 50 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,060 evil. 51 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:41,960 Just as God created we humans with free will choice, so did God create all angelic beings. 52 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:48,200 God knew the risk he was taking to give us free will, but he also knew allegiance, love 53 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:56,400 or devotion are only valuable when there is a choice, when such are freely given. 54 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,240 To help us understand more about God, his goodness, mercy and love, and about current 55 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,660 world events today is my guest, Barry Wunsch. 56 00:04:04,660 --> 00:04:05,920 You may have heard of Barry. 57 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,640 I have mostly learned of him through Steve Schultz's Elijah Streams podcast. 58 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,660 Barry is known as the Canadian Hammer, a title that speaks of the power of the prophetic 59 00:04:14,660 --> 00:04:19,120 words God gives him with no reflection on his personality. 60 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,840 He is kind and gentle through whom God works to provide us with prophecy, which is God's 61 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:27,160 spoken or Ramo word. 62 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Anytime we hear a prophecy, the onus is upon us to compare it to the whole of God's written 63 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,920 word to make sure there is no discrepancy. 64 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Of the many things I am grateful to know God for is the fact that he is immutable, that 65 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:48,120 he is unchangeable, and he has provided his written word, the Bible, which he will never 66 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,480 violate. 67 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,760 The fact that God cannot change, he is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, and the 68 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:00,240 fact that we have his written word to pour over to know him, to know his intention, his 69 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:07,080 will and character, means we have promises of the highest possible and we can uniquely 70 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,560 count on God. 71 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:15,480 As he writes in his word, quote, he is not a man that he should lie, nor the son of man 72 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,280 that he should change his mind. 73 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:23,200 We read that in Numbers 23 19 and the English Standard Version says it this way, God is 74 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,560 not a man that he should lie or a son of man that he should change his mind. 75 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Has he said it and will he not do it or has he spoken and will he not fulfill it? 76 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,700 End quote. 77 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:39,960 I take such tremendous comfort in knowing God is uniquely trustworthy unlike any human 78 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:46,560 being and that we have his written word to know him and to know his plans. 79 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,720 We also read in the Bible that God does nothing but what he first shares with his servants, 80 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,880 the prophets. 81 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,720 We read that in Amos chapter 3 verse 7. 82 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Given all that was shared this past couple of weeks and with real news I have to share 83 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,880 in the near future, I wanted today to be a podcast to give you hope and encouragement. 84 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,600 I know you're growing weary and many believe while things are being exposed and truth is 85 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,120 being brought to light that still nothing is being done. 86 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:21,560 No one is being held accountable and this makes many people feel like giving up. 87 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Don't do it. 88 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 I assure you much is going on. 89 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,440 People are being held accountable and justice is being served. 90 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Modern media is not reporting it because those in positions of leadership within the media 91 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,080 are part of the deep state, part of the worldwide cabal that seeks ultimate control, power, and 92 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:45,800 wealth over the entire earth population which is why they believe and in fact have enacted 93 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:51,360 euthanasia to reduce the world population to a more manageable number. 94 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,400 It's been so interesting to watch them as their plans unfold and God is opposing them 95 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,800 and defeating their plans. 96 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:04,000 They know about God but somehow in their deranged state they actually believe they can overcome 97 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,280 God. 98 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:11,140 This is the same delusion that Satan who is the personification of evil has believed since 99 00:07:11,140 --> 00:07:13,240 he rebelled against God in heaven. 100 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,080 When he first rebelled God dealt with Satan by casting him out of heaven. 101 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,600 Next when he deceived Adam and Eve God pronounced a curse upon Satan. 102 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Through the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus God delivered Satan his final blow. 103 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,280 No matter what things look like Satan is already a defeated foe. 104 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,860 Yet still he manages to influence people to do his evil bidding. 105 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:43,640 This month, the month of June, has become known as Pride Month. 106 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,280 An ironic choice of identity since the Bible is clear God opposes the proud but gives grace 107 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,640 to the humble and we also read pride always goes before the fall. 108 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,640 My heart breaks for all these people who are caught up in the lies and the deception of 109 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:04,160 various alternative lifestyles that are inconsistent with God's created intention. 110 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,520 They have traded their knowledge and relationship with God for a relationship and life aligned 111 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,920 with the destructive ways of the enemy. 112 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,480 But the more God's people realize what the enemy has perverted, the lies he has told, 113 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,000 the more fierce we become, the more emboldened we become with the truth of God's word, his 114 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:30,440 written word, his spoken word, and the living word, Jesus, who has already and completely 115 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,960 overcome the enemy and all he has or will ever do. 116 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,480 One such emboldened Christian is the Polish-Canadian pastor Artur Palauski who stood up to the 117 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:46,400 tyranny in Canada that sought to shut down churches who was arrested multiple times. 118 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,920 After spending time in jail, the Canadian legal system found Palauski guilty of mischief 119 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,720 for encouraging truckers to continue to block the Canada-United States border crossing during 120 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,880 a 2022 protest that lasted more than two weeks. 121 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:07,500 And Artur Palauski's son also made headlines recently that read, quote, son of jailed Canadian 122 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:15,520 pastor faces potential fines and prison for preaching outside kids drag queen story time, 123 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,520 end quote. 124 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Additionally, pastor Derek Reimer was arrested a second time for protesting children's drag 125 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,080 queen events. 126 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,800 We must pray for these brave men and women like them around the world who are standing 127 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,360 up and more, we must join them with our efforts. 128 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:39,680 If we don't take a stand for God and his ways now, we will be overcome with evil. 129 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,280 It's that simple. 130 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:46,440 In fact, God has been warning us and even giving us marching orders of what he wants 131 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,680 us to do in these very days. 132 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,020 Julie Green posted a prophecy on July 5th that she received on May 25th, which stated 133 00:09:55,020 --> 00:10:00,480 in part and I loosely quote, a major shift, a great separation and weeding out of the 134 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,860 nations and the body of Christ is here. 135 00:10:03,860 --> 00:10:09,500 The evil that has progressed within my church over the years and years has led to deception 136 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:12,040 of my word and who I am. 137 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,660 There is deception about what my written word says and the truth that sets people free. 138 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:22,840 Over time, my word has become so watered down that nothing was happening through my children 139 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,880 and my children stopped expecting anything from me because they experienced a lack of 140 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,200 power. 141 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,240 This is how evil ran rampant and created chaos anywhere it could. 142 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,440 Darkness has grown to new levels and spread far and wide and deeper than anyone thought 143 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,440 it could. 144 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:46,560 But remember, God says, I know the end from the beginning and I'm telling you once again, 145 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:51,640 get up, stand up, take back authority that Jesus has paid the price for because things 146 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,520 are about to look more chaotic and out of control. 147 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,440 It will look like things are getting much worse around the world, but I have told you 148 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,520 this in advance. 149 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,320 I have not left you without solutions to overcome every obstacle. 150 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:13,840 I have given you power, authority, dominion, faith, strength, joy, peace, revelation, knowledge 151 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,680 and understanding of my will for your lives in my written word. 152 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:22,160 So take it all and use it as I've always intended you to do. 153 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,180 My children, these are the days where you must live by faith, where you have to stand, 154 00:11:28,180 --> 00:11:31,600 know how to pray and use my authority. 155 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,960 Your enemies are desperate and that desperation is growing and they are about to overwhelm 156 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,680 many with the pressure they will try to put on you to quit. 157 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:42,440 But great judgment is coming. 158 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,120 The weather will appear to be abnormal and out of control. 159 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,600 Earthquakes are ramping up in various locations and governments will fall apart. 160 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,000 There will be chaos in many countries worldwide. 161 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Another virus will try to be put on the world and they will continue to try to take your 162 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,040 freedoms away. 163 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Chaos with more shortages, more inflation, planes grounded again, but in a bigger way. 164 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Transportation in many ways will seem to cease and a blackout will take place. 165 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,200 I have continuously told you about all of this, but despite these things, I am in control 166 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,920 and the globalist will continue to fail and fall." 167 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:29,360 God tells us things in advance so that we can be prepared and not be taken off guard. 168 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,920 Do everything you can now to be prepared for what God has revealed. 169 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:39,320 This is not a time for us to be fearful, but to fully embrace all we are in Christ and 170 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,320 to wield the authority and power we have over all the works of darkness. 171 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,960 Please understand, while God is in control of all things and His will shall prevail, 172 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,240 we have free will on how we respond to evil in this world. 173 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:01,360 We could say it this way, God is in control of the world, but we are in charge of our 174 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,960 lives. 175 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,000 Please think about that. 176 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:11,280 Now to help us better understand and to convince us to take hold of all we are in Christ Jesus 177 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,320 and to act in partnership with God accordingly is my guest, Barry Wunsch. 178 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,760 Barry is a Canadian prophet and consultant. 179 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,540 He has a father's heart and a love for family and community, bringing words of hope, restoration 180 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:26,600 and healing to many. 181 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Barry has a deep love for Canada and has the heart of a reformer. 182 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,680 His complete bio is provided in the show notes. 183 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:43,280 Now here's part one of my interview with Barry. 184 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,400 I am so delighted to have Barry Wunsch as my guest on this podcast. 185 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,400 I know some of you in my audience already know about him. 186 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,160 He's been certainly in his own right, becoming known with the prophecies and the many things 187 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,320 he does for the kingdom, but also he's become well known through him being interviewed by 188 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Steve Schultz on the Elijah Stream. 189 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 So some of you may know Barry from there. 190 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,800 Those of you who don't know Barry, I'm pleased to introduce you to him now. 191 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Barry, welcome to my podcast. 192 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:13,400 Oh Pam, thank you so much. 193 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,000 It's my honor and my great pleasure to be joining you here today. 194 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,280 You know, Barry, I became very interested in what the Lord was doing through you at 195 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:27,040 the height of COVID in the year 2020 when it was really just coming out and I saw that 196 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,600 it was a plandemic. 197 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,880 I saw how horribly it was being managed and how we people were being controlled. 198 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,960 And I heard about this specific persecution of Christian leaders in Canada that was different 199 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,160 than what we're experiencing here in the United States. 200 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,520 So I was drawn to you and all that you're doing, what God is doing through you. 201 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Can you give my audience a little bit of insight about what it's like to be a Christian, especially 202 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,240 a Christian leader in Canada? 203 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Well, Pam, I tell you, we're in a moment here in Canadian history and we're not through 204 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,800 it quite yet. 205 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,840 But, you know, when we were under the restrictions that we were, you know, basically government 206 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:13,080 officials and health officials going into churches during services, you know, confronting 207 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:20,640 leaders to the point of jail, you know, for breaking, you know, the laws or the guidelines 208 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,460 that they had set out. 209 00:15:22,460 --> 00:15:26,560 And a lot of those actually are still even being played out. 210 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Even right now, they're not through the court system yet. 211 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:36,680 And so we've got friends that are, you know, they've tens of thousands of dollars of fines 212 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,680 they're fighting. 213 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:44,000 You know, essentially, you'll all stem back to a breach of our Charter of Freedoms. 214 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,600 And so, you know, we are in a very, you know, interesting moment here within the Church 215 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,600 in Canada. 216 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Absolutely. 217 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,720 And you talk about your Charter of Freedoms. 218 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000 That would be basically akin to our Constitution, right? 219 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Yeah, this is part of it. 220 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:05,760 And so when they come in and they're going to basically want to breach our freedoms and 221 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,760 then it's getting worse. 222 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:12,080 I mean, now we've got Bill C-11 that has recently been passed by Parliament and actually by 223 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,140 the Senate now. 224 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:15,400 So it's law. 225 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:22,400 So they've got the federal government has now taken a position where they can restrict 226 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:27,920 media and what Canadians see in their feeds on news. 227 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:34,240 In fact, Facebook just as of June the 1st, I just had a news article sent to me where 228 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,680 they're starting to roll this out. 229 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,400 And so, you know, it's not even being hidden anymore. 230 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,960 You know, it's being very blatant and it is going to be restricted and it puts people 231 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,440 at a great risk of breaking the law as well as we put things out that we do. 232 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 So it's very, very, very concerning. 233 00:16:53,480 --> 00:17:00,800 And I mean, this isn't even to get into what they're doing with the gun laws here in Canada. 234 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,640 You know, we're in a very precarious moment. 235 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,360 You know, we've got a lot of patriots within this nation that, you know, are not going 236 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:11,680 to stand back and let that just really happen. 237 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,760 So we're in a very interesting moment. 238 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:19,920 What I understand in Canada is it's been very, very restrictive, especially since 2020. 239 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,760 And you've not only got your censorship and your gun laws, but there's been a lot of people 240 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,700 who've been locked in place even today. 241 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:28,120 Can you help my audience understand? 242 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:34,840 I really want people to understand how different it is in Canada as opposed to the United States. 243 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,440 Canada and Australia seem to be taking the brunt of everything. 244 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Yeah, no, no, I'm going to say this, Pam. 245 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,640 There's two sides to every story, as you know, and then there's the truth, you know, somewhere 246 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,640 in between. 247 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:54,720 And, you know, not everything that is published, you know, from the left liberal side is true 248 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,720 and accurate. 249 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:05,200 You know, and often it's just plain outright deception and embellishment of truth. 250 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,560 But I will say that on the right side of media here in Canada, we are seeing some of that 251 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:18,960 as well, where we've got, you know, there are certain ones that are kind of taking, 252 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,320 they're gaining monetarily, they're gaining my personal recognition and then these kinds 253 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,200 of things in an unhealthy way. 254 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,240 And so I believe the Lord is going to be dealing with that and bringing some of those things 255 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:39,080 to light because truth will stand by itself without having to embellish it. 256 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,680 You know, you don't have to embellish truth to make a truth. 257 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,680 I mean, truth is truth. 258 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,720 You can take a blowtorch to it, it won't burn. 259 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,160 But I think we get in trouble when we start to embellish things or make statements that 260 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,320 are just not factual. 261 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,160 You know, I think that some of the things that you've seen on media and we see here 262 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:02,560 in Canada, you know, there are cases that are in court right now. 263 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,320 And then some of them actually have judgments made against them that are in process of, 264 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,360 you know, what they're going to do for consequences. 265 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,960 You know, I think that I think this is where it gets a bit messy. 266 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,200 You know, one of the big ones is there was a border issue down at Coots border between 267 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,680 America and the United States. 268 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:27,120 And during the time of the lockdowns and the trucker convoy, you know, there was, there 269 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,680 were some issues down at that border. 270 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,720 And we have a right to protest, you know, I mean, that is our right to protest. 271 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:42,040 However, when that crosses a line into violence and threats to be hurting people, you know, 272 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,280 automatic weapons show up and it might be only a handful out of the thousands and thousands 273 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,280 and thousands. 274 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,760 You know, there's always a few bad ones in the bucket. 275 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,920 And so there were a few of those that did surface and kind of put a bad name on the 276 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,640 rest of the patriot movement and the things that are going on here. 277 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,800 And so a lot of that is yet to be kind of settled out. 278 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,200 There's two sides to every story is what I'm saying. 279 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,880 You know, the frustration behind it all and where it starts. 280 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,880 I mean, I get it. 281 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,720 You know, I mean, people losing their houses and losing their businesses and losing loved 282 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,720 ones. 283 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:28,040 It's tragic, tragic, tragic what this thing has done to our nation as it has to yours. 284 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:33,200 And so a lot of this is still going to have to be kind of walked out. 285 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,920 And the next few months, you know, I think it will the proof will be into the pudding 286 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,840 here is just what what direction that's going to go. 287 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,880 Now, so you're talking about a border crisis and violence coming up as people are trying 288 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,880 to peacefully protest. 289 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,680 It sounds like you've had some of the same kinds of issues that we have, like our January 290 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,640 6th event, where there have been people who have been planted to insurrect violence. 291 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,440 Would that be safe to say? 292 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,320 I know the January 6th situation. 293 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,440 I mean, I believe that absolutely. 294 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,840 You know, the proof is already coming on. 295 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,720 The evidence is coming out that that certainly was the case in Washington. 296 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,000 The border crossing issue that I do not believe they were planted. 297 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,280 I do not believe that these these ones from the from the information that we've been given 298 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:25,840 on the ones that were involved with that were involved, that were there and on both sides 299 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,200 of the fence. 300 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,600 I don't think that the ones that were there were were planted to cause this. 301 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,440 Barry, I know that we are all waiting for the other shoe to drop. 302 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,440 I mean, we're hearing a lot from the World Health Organization, from the CDC, from the 303 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,920 World Economic Forum, from Bill Gates and all the different media that we are able to 304 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,940 dig and try to find truth from. 305 00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:52,620 And it seems like they're preparing to instigate yet another pandemic. 306 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:58,140 What can we learn from what we've already experienced with the covid-19? 307 00:21:58,140 --> 00:22:04,280 What would you like to make sure we learn as Christians and how we can respond differently? 308 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Should we actually encounter that kind of a thing again? 309 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Well, Pam, I think that, you know, in Canada and probably largely in America as well, you 310 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:22,240 had most of the church just kind of close the doors and let things kind of roll out 311 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,200 without raising their voice. 312 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:33,560 And you know, I think that if we can learn anything is there is a time to stand. 313 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,760 There is a time for our voice to be made. 314 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,280 And yes, we have to pray. 315 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Yes, we have to get on our knees and look after one another and care for one another. 316 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,440 Absolutely. 317 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:52,960 And I think we also have to get involved where we can, you know, when people are hurting 318 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,200 and when these kind of things start to roll out and you've got an epidemic of suicide 319 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,720 and mental health issues and people, you know, hanging on by a thread. 320 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:11,800 The only place that you can find really freedom and comfort and help in and through all of 321 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800 that is with the Lord. 322 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,760 And at the altar. 323 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:23,480 And if we're going to restrict that, now gathering together in a building isn't everything. 324 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,080 You know, I mean, honestly, a lot of churches and this is going to be kind of maybe sounding 325 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:35,960 harsh, but, you know, under the religious political spirit, a lot of churches, probably 326 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,920 even if they opened up, aren't making a huge impact in their communities anyway. 327 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,280 It's very sad, but that is true. 328 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Yeah. 329 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:50,440 And then so, so, you know, I think this has been a shake up, a wake up, you know, for 330 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:57,080 the body to, to stand up and, you know, take their position. 331 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:02,600 And honestly, we, the father is the first of the last defense in all of this. 332 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,680 And you know, they're trying to shut the mouth of the church. 333 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:13,240 They're trying to trying to close the mouth of the ecclesia, restrict us in public gatherings. 334 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,160 You know, they know what we hold with the father. 335 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,680 They know the authority we're given. 336 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,680 And if we just give it to them on a silver platter, you know, it won't be long before 337 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,240 the enemy is fully, you know, taking more ground than he already has. 338 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,520 You know, you, you just look at the, you know, our education system and, and, you know, here 339 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,920 we've got, you know, the drag story times where you drag queens and, you know, coming 340 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,120 in doing story hours with, with elementary children. 341 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,800 You know, it is, you know, I know you have the same thing going down, you know, in the 342 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,800 States as well. 343 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Yes. 344 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,120 And we have to protect our children. 345 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,440 We have to protect our families. 346 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,840 And sometimes that means showing up in a meeting and stepping in front of a microphone and 347 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,840 writing those letters. 348 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,680 And, and, you know, standing up in a, in a maybe a new way. 349 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:11,200 And so, you know, there is a time that we're in where we, we really have to be mindful 350 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,600 of taking a stand for not only ourselves, but the future generations that are at risk. 351 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,720 Barry, I know a lot of what you do is practical. 352 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,160 And just as you're speaking right now, trying to equip people and prepare people to get 353 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,080 engaged, to be involved with our government and with the realities that we are facing 354 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,660 and certainly spiritual. 355 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:35,040 You want to help prepare people to not only know the word of God, but to be obedient to 356 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,040 the word of God. 357 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,840 And in addition to that, God has worked through you for quite some time to provide prophetic 358 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,000 word, prophetic insight and wisdom. 359 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,600 And I've been so grateful to God over the past three years, especially for the amount 360 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,680 of prophecy that he's allowed us to have. 361 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,160 He knows we need the reassurance of his Rhema word. 362 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,160 Yes. 363 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,880 And with that in mind, given everything we've been through since early 2020, given that 364 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,600 it looks like we're faced with perhaps another kind of a pandemic where we are going to have 365 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,440 to take a stand. 366 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Can you prophetically speak to us now to let us know what God wants us to expect over the 367 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,460 next few months and maybe even into next year? 368 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:21,900 From what I'm seeing and where he's taken me, Pamela, you know, the Father's never run 369 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,640 away from a fight in his life. 370 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,440 You know, that is just simply not his nature. 371 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,600 And so I believe that, you know, we are going to see, you know, more exposures coming. 372 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200 We're seeing them every day. 373 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,760 We've got more whistleblowers coming every day. 374 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:46,520 You know, we're in a moment where everything that has been hidden in darkness, the Father 375 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,880 is going at great lengths to bring it out into the light. 376 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:59,560 And that his people, you know, I look at Gen Z and I believe that Gen Z is going to be very, 377 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,440 very impacted by this. 378 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:11,600 When they realize the deception and the indoctrination that the enemy has had, the munder and the 379 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:19,600 restriction that the enemy has had the munder, these ones, they're going to rise up with 380 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:27,680 a tenacity and a purity that will not be colored by a religious spirit or a political spirit, 381 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:34,820 but it'll be pure of the Lord in how they step and how they walk out to what mandates 382 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:35,820 they're given. 383 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:40,320 And so I'm looking forward to see, you know, we saw some of that in the colleges already 384 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,400 starting to happen in universities. 385 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,400 That's only the start. 386 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,760 You know, we are coming into times where we're going to see that economic, you know, I've 387 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,760 seen it. 388 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,240 The war took me into the Federal Reserve. 389 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,840 You know, I saw the panic that was going through the Federal Reserve and all of the political 390 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:08,000 arenas and the banks and the stock markets and all of that as things were melting down. 391 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720 And on the surface, it looks terrible. 392 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,720 You know, obviously for those that are in the spirit of Baal, but God is bringing us 393 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:23,560 into a kingdom age and he's bringing us into a place where we will walk in the kingdom 394 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,560 ways. 395 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:32,960 And so he is raising up men and women that are all his, that they've given their yes 396 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,200 and they're surrendered. 397 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,200 And he's vetting them. 398 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,120 He's putting them into their places that they can function on the, you know, whether it's 399 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,920 on the political mountain or the education mountain or the media, you know, you name 400 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,920 it. 401 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:54,560 He's putting people in position as these old systems are failing and falling down, you 402 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,760 know, on every side. 403 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:03,280 And so we're seeing a collapse of all of the pillars that bring a balance to a government 404 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,440 and to a nation and they're all failing. 405 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,160 And there's one foundation that will never be shaken and that's the foundation of the 406 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,280 Lord Jesus Christ. 407 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:19,760 And so, you know, he's stripping away and we will be rebuilding, you know, with revival 408 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,680 and reformation and it is going to be glorious. 409 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Amen. 410 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,040 Here's where I'll pause my interview for today and we'll pick up from here next week. 411 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,360 I know some of what's going on in other countries because of my research, but for most of us, 412 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,720 we just don't hear enough about our brothers and sisters in other countries standing up 413 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,540 for our faith and yet we need to. 414 00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:53,120 We need to be encouraged to do the same in the country we live in, to take the stand 415 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,980 for Christ and to be found faithful in these darkest of times. 416 00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:02,240 I urge you to watch the recent interview of Barry on Elijah Streams where he shared a 417 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,280 most encouraging word titled, America, your deliverance is upon you. 418 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:14,640 This provides a clear example of how evil increases at the same time God is prevailing. 419 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,840 Also, make a point of listening to Julie Green's prophecy posted on June 6th, providing further 420 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,280 warning to prepare for what is ahead. 421 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,520 The link is in the show notes. 422 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,140 Next week, Barry Wunsch will be my guest again 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