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Welcome once again to this podcast known as Faith to Live By.

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I'm Pam Christian, your host, researcher, and advocate, to help us all discover and live

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in life-giving truth and experience all the hope that truth provides.

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Those who are regular listeners know this is a place where we explore current events

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from a biblical and prophetic perspective, so we, as God's children, can know how He

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wants us to respond.

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As God has been exposing all manner of evil since early 2020, He is also revealing the

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character of people, the faith of people.

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Either we know God and have complete faith in Him and all that He has revealed, or we

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don't.

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Those who don't properly know God are revealed by their fear and trembling.

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Sadly, there are many in the Church today, professing Christians and even Church leadership,

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who are promoting doom and gloom for the people of the world, including God's people.

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They are spreading fear among people with the belief that these are the end of the end

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times and they are sequestering themselves waiting for God to rescue them.

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This is not the narrative God has generated through His modern-day, proven prophets.

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Neither does what God say through His prophets contradict His written Word.

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Many people have claimed to have understanding of exactly what the Bible says about the end

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times.

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But one thing they don't highlight is that not even Jesus knows the day or the hour of

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His return, only the Father.

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Can we gain clues from world events and signs in the skies about where we are in God's

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timeline?

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Absolutely.

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But even when the day comes for Christ's return, we are told it will be like a thief in the

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night.

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This is why we are to live ready for Christ's return at all times.

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As I've shared before, there is nowhere in Scripture where God instructs His people to

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hide, cower, and fearfully wait for Christ's return.

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Those who are promoting such and those who are responding accordingly are actually making

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a mockery of the cross.

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Christ died to give us complete victory over all the schemes and works of the enemy.

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We are told to take hold of the authority and power we have in Christ and use it to

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cause the enemy to retreat.

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In fact, as of late, through His prophet, Julie Green, God has emphatically instructed

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His people to take back what is rightfully ours, and this includes the sovereign freedom

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of our health.

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This week's podcast is part two of my interview with James Rogusky, the leading expert on

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the efforts of proponents of One World Government and their plans to control the world population

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through health regulations.

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Even though I'm about to provide a brief recap, I encourage you to listen to part one if you

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haven't already.

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This is very important information we must not only be adequately informed about, but

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we must act on.

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Last week, James shared that there are four tracks that all converge with the first track

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involving a meeting the United Nations has planned for September 20, 2023.

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At this meeting, the United Nations plans to adopt a political declaration of the United

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Nations General Assembly high-level meeting on pandemic prevention, preparedness, and

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response.

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This is to give them much more power than they have now.

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James explained that the United Nations works on the basis that silence equals consent.

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This means if we don't communicate our objections now, we forfeit our right to object in the

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future.

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This is very serious.

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As I provided last week, I provide again the two websites James has to help us better understand

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and to help us take action.

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I urge you to download the letters he has crafted for you to send to any public servant

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of any nation.

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The plans of the United Nations and the World Health Organization impacts the entire world

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population now and into the future.

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We must take action and get as many others as possible to do the same.

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Share this podcast with those you know and encourage them to oppose the evil agenda by

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simply letting their voice be heard.

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Before I present the second part of my interview with James Rogusky, I want to encourage you

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with words from God through Julie Green.

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Listen to this clip of her prophetic word given on Tuesday, August 15th that includes

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specific mention about the World Health Organization referred to as the WHO.

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In peach, in peach, they are shouting in D.C.

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And soon it will be the 25th Amendment is what they are about to shout to remove the

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Biden.

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My children, a great shaking is taking place in Washington and a bigger one is about to

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shatter certain plans.

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They were about to try to pull off a great dismantling of their power in this country

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has begun.

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The WHO is about to be exposed big time and nothing can stop the collapse of this organization.

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The Federal Reserve is also about to be exposed.

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The IRS is about to be exposed.

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Explosion of truth one after another is coming in this land of the eagle to set you free.

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So hold on my children, the days of shock and awe are here.

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It's almost the end to what has been holding you in bondage.

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These are the days of your release, saith the Lord, your Redeemer.

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I caution you not to think this means God's going to wipe out the WHO and the other evils

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so we can just rest on our laurels and watch it happen.

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No, that has never been how God works for his people.

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God has always instructed his people to actively partner with him to see his will done on earth

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as it is in heaven.

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So if you want to see God's will to overcome various evils we have been suffering in our

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nations and worldwide, then listen to what my guest James Rogusky shares about the World

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Health Organization and take action with what we can and must do to see this organization

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crumble as God desires.

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Here's part two of my interview with James Rogusky.

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All right so that's tracks one, two and three.

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I know there are four tracks total.

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Tell us a little bit about track four and then let me come back in and ask you some

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questions.

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Sure.

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Almost all of the details that are associated with the first three tracks inaccurately get

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attributed to what everyone calls the pandemic treaty.

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Well they don't call it that and there's a good reason why they don't.

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They call it the WHO Convention Agreement Plus and the plus stands for or other international

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instrument.

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Most people if they think about a treaty they think well you agree to some words, you sign

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off on it and it's done.

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You could read it and that's what you've agreed to.

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Well that would be bad enough.

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That's not what they're planning to do.

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They're working on what's called a framework convention and what a framework convention

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primarily does is it is an agreement to set up an entirely new bureaucracy that would

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operate the details of this agreement on a yearly basis off into the future forever.

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And so what they're asking the nations to do is agree to let a totally new batch of

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unelected bureaucrats and observers and we'll talk about that in a moment which would create

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a conference of the parties.

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These are the cabal of people who would control this going off into the future and they would

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be empowered to adopt protocols with all of the details that we would have no say in.

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And that is the danger.

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They're trying to set up yet another bureaucracy that would be given authority to cut out even

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another level removed.

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We the people and our representatives in Congress or the Senate.

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Now the people who would make up the conference of the parties would be whatever nations agreed

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to join and literally the manufacturers that make pandemic response products the United

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Nations and all of their various agencies and all of the foundations that would be participating

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they're all encouraged to donate money into this cartel and then they could be accepted

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as members of the conference of the parties that would meet every year to decide all of

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the details.

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Well let me just give you one example of how this works to the detriment of society.

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Back in 1992 all of the nations agreed to the framework convention for climate change.

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So if you realize and I heard by the sound of your that you realize that if you let other

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people be in charge of working out the details and you come back a decade or two or three

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later don't be surprised if they've made an absolute mess of the world with what they

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have decided they want to do for climate change or for pandemic prevention.

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Getting into an agreement where you agree to let other people work out the details is

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about the dumbest thing I could imagine anybody doing and that is what they are negotiating.

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What's in the document is not what people think is in this document so there are a lot

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of people talking about the pandemic treaty and I just caution everybody if you haven't

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read the document yourself it the latest version was published on June 2nd it's called 2023

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it's called the Bureau's text of the WHO CA plus.

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Very few people have read it but that doesn't stop people from talking about quote unquote

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the pandemic treaty.

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Well if they're talking about the wrong thing they're probably getting all of the details

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wrong so it doesn't have in it what people think it has.

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It's really a venture capital prospectus to guide how these billions of dollars are going

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to be spent to build out laboratory networks to look for pathogens everywhere so that they

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can fear monger us at a moment's notice on an isolated location saying oh we found something

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here so now we're going to go make drugs and jams and use them to try to stop what could

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potentially be a problem.

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Spending billions of dollars to do that in my view is you know just an absolute misappropriation

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of funds putting the people in charge of that who are the ones donating the money is corruption

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on a scale that is unimaginable.

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And so they're hoping to submit that to the May Assembly in 2024 and they need a two-thirds

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vote of you know all of the nations but you have to realize that each nation gets one

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vote irrespective of population.

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So the tiniest little nations in the world get one vote.

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The United States and you know countries like India and China that have over a billion people

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they get one vote as well.

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If money is going to be directed to nations to invest in this type of infrastructure with

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jobs and investment and you know just a lot of money flowing they have a lot of corrupt

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incentives to approve that those investments be made in their country and the United States

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is on a different track already put a billion dollars into the World Bank's pandemic fund

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and last month they started dispersing some of the money to 37 different nations to do

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exactly that.

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All right this is a lot and it's a lot because we don't have a trustworthy mainstream media

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that gets this information out and so people like myself who run podcasts and who do the

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research and dig for truth to try to bring the truth to as many people as possible you're

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one of these truthers as I call them.

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That's why it feels like it's overwhelming in a lot right now because we are getting

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hit with a lot of information that's new to us even though it's been around for quite

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a while.

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I mean you've talked about Congress making a decision back in 1948 for goodness sakes

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and yet we are being caught off guard by this.

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So before we go too much further you've put together a great website where these specific

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four tracks that you've just given us a verbal overview of can be studied in more detail

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and you've got the visuals that really help us see the four tracks and also provide specific

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call to actions.

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Tell a little bit about your website and how people can get to that because we need not

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to just hear this information we need to act on it.

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Well you know I do something that a lot of people think is unusual but it's been a blessing.

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I give everybody my phone number it's on the bottom of every article I've written on Substack.

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My Substack account is just my name James Rogusky j-a-m-e-s-r-o-g-u-s-k-i dot Substack dot com.

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My phone number is 310-619-3055.

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I invite everyone to call the numbers on the bottom of every article because this is complicated.

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And so on one of the latest articles I have a domain name that will take you directly

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there.

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It's called StopTheGlobalAgenda.com.

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Don't do a search for that search engines are not your friend just go straight there

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by typing it into your browser.

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StopTheGlobalAgenda.com.

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And there's a letter that you can download has all of the information you can send it

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to any public server in the world quite frankly because this is a worldwide issue and it essentially

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says look here are the documents that you know they are dealing with and oh by the way

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they're hiding various documents about the amendments.

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We have not seen an updated version since they were first submitted last September with

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the framework convention.

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We know that there's a 208 page document with all of the original nations submissions from

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April 22nd.

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They've been hiding that for three months.

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We demand that there be transparency and there be a public discussion of these you know potential

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agreements that would affect every person on the planet.

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So you can download that and just send it off to your senator your congressperson your

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governor whomever you wish and share this information with everybody else because quite

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frankly step number one is awareness.

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They want it to be secret and if you know about it that's the first hurdle.

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If you know what they're doing and you shine light on it.

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I'd like to digress a little bit and just talk about how I got into this.

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A little more than a year ago in January of last year I was working in my yard.

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I've got like 15 fruit trees in a tiny little yard.

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It's literally a food jungle okay and I stopped a little more than a year and a half ago.

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I looked up to the sky and I said God just tell me what you want me to do.

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I volunteer.

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Let me know how I can help and I will do it.

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Now I've done that in the past and sometimes it hits you like a bolt of lightning and you

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get an immediate answer and you're like wow you know I guess that's what I want I should

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be doing.

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Well it was a time delay and I discovered a document in March like about two months

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later and I just got a shiver down my spine and I realized that I was in a position where

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I knew enough and I had enough certain skill set to be able to understand what these Biden

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amendments were back last year and spread the word about it.

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And so what I would share with everyone else out in the world is everyone is different.

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Everyone has their own strengths, their own connections, their own personal power and

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skill set and things that you enjoy doing.

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Some people have done music, some people have done comedy, some people have done artwork,

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some people have done research or writing or just networking and talking or whatever

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it might be.

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Everybody is called in a different way and I just wake up every morning and I go boy

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I wonder what God's going to bring today.

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It's going to be interesting.

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We'll see what happens.

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I'm here to volunteer to help however I'm best suited to help and so if people who are

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listening to this say oh I maybe I'm not good at this but I might be good at that.

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I can do this to help raise awareness around the world.

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It's been amazing.

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I've lately just in the last week or so someone from Luxembourg in Europe reached out to me

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and working with people in Trinidad and Tobago and South Africa and Australia and whatever.

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You never know where the spirit of volunteering to do whatever it is that needs to be done,

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not your will but a greater will.

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Put it out there and see what happens.

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You may be very pleasantly surprised.

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I don't tell anybody what they should do because everybody has their own path, their own purpose,

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their own calling but if you have a volunteer spirit and you want to help you'll be guided

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to do what it is that you're supposed to do and that's all I'm doing every single day.

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Absolutely and I think that those are excellent words of encouragement because right now I

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think everyone would agree the world is in a crisis and we need as many people to understand

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the truth and act on it as possible and regardless of a person's individual calling or skill

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set or experience everybody can download this letter that you have and send it off to their

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respected representatives.

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So thank you for doing that much.

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What else can people do at this time based on what you have provided with your website

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with the StopTheGlobalAgenda.com?

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You can expect to hear the answer to my last question of James with next week's podcast

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and I hope you've realized it's imperative that everyone possible takes action to put

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the who and the United Nations on notice, that we don't want them to have the autonomy

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and authority to oversee our health the way it's being planned.

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You heard James express the confusion about the pandemic treaty versus the framework convention

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and it's rampant and I believe it's by design because they don't want us to know what they

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are actually doing.

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As James explained they are taking steps to establish an entirely new bureaucracy that

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would operate the details of the agreement on a yearly basis indefinitely.

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What they want the nations to agree to is an entirely new batch of unelected bureaucrats

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and observers as a conference of the parties, a cabal of people in control and empowered

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to adopt protocols that we would have no say in.

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They want to set up another bureaucracy that would be given authority to cut out another

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level of input from we the people.

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The members of this conference of the parties would be any nation that agrees to join, drug

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manufacturers that make pandemic response products, United Nations agencies and any

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non-government organizations and foundations such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

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that would be encouraged to donate money into this cartel.

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What they want to hold is another framework convention to assign people to oversee the

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details and management of potential pandemics.

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And by the way I recall from my earlier interview with James that the definition of pandemic

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is so broad that it could include anything, the common cold for example.

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What have we learned about the COVID-19 virus since the tyrannical claims that it would

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cause unprecedented deaths worldwide?

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Well we've learned that COVID-19 somehow mysteriously replaced the common influenza virus that essentially

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disappeared according to the records of the CDC.

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We've also learned that many of the deaths associated with COVID-19 were a result of

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pre-existing conditions or the treatment people received to control the virus including the

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jab.

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And remember as James pointed out it was 1992 that the nations agreed to a framework convention

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that would oversee climate change.

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And where has that gotten the world today?

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Billions of dollars and crazy plans to control the climate have been presented including

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Bill Gates' plan to put chemicals in the skies to block the sun and imposing penalties against

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cattle farmers with the claim that the cattle's methane gas emissions are damaging our climate.

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And very recently the Biden administration announced it will spend $1.2 billion in taxpayer

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dollars to vacuum the sky of carbon dioxide.

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Read the article using the link in the show notes.

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All of this and more while Princeton MIT scientists say EPA climate regulations are based on a

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hoax.

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A physicist and a meteorologist recently testified that the climate agenda is disastrous for

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the United States also stating quote the scientific method proves there is no risk that fossil

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fuels and carbon dioxide will cause catastrophic warming and extreme weather end quote.

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Again a link to the article is in the show notes.

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What the World Health Organization wants to approve is not a pandemic treaty but what's

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called the Bureau's text of the World Health Organization's Convention Agreement Plus

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which translates to an effort to create a venture capital prospectus to guide how billions

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of dollars are spent to turn up potential pandemics and fear monger us.

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It's the same play over and over.

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Secure tax dollars off the backs of the common people to fund your scheme.

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Create a problem to control the masses then walk out a vaccine or other remedy and mandate

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its use so they can make untold additional billions of dollars all for themselves.

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I agree with James.

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This creates a method for a scale of corruption that is unimaginable.

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No wonder God wants to wipe it all out and God expects us to partner with him to accomplish

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his will.

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This is all part of track four of what we need to know which requires our response in

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plenty of time before their May 2024 vote where they need two-thirds approval from all

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the nations and remember each nation gets one vote regardless of the population.

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For nations that want to be corrupt and receive funds to do research etc. this is an incentive

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to sell the people out.

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Unfortunately the United States has already donated one billion of our tax dollars to

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the World Bank's Pandemic Fund and last month disbursements to 37 different nations were

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already made.

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This podcast is being created right after the horrendous and highly suspicious Maui

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Fire where American people are not receiving aid from our government but our government

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spends billions and billions of dollars with the World Health Organization and Ukraine

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and all sorts of other America last efforts.

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I've been researching and sharing what I've learned with this podcast since July 2020

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and the efforts for a one-world government where the sovereignty of the nations are dissolved

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is real.

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I invite you to learn more about who is behind the one-world government using the link to

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Dave Sorensen's excellent work.

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You'll find it in the show notes.

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I also invite you to research the very real potential that the United Nations is operating

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with an occult agenda.

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Find a link in the show notes to get you started with your research.

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And please be sure to visit James Rogusky's sites to learn more about the four tracks,

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the deadlines for us to take action and specifically what we can do.

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And again, share this podcast with others so we can get as many people as possible enlightened

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and taking action on these important issues.

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Another important issue with the deadline is the upcoming premier red carpet town hall

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massive relaunch of the documentary titled The Trump I Know is scheduled for August 27.

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I did a whole separate interview with Matt Thayer, the filmmaker for this project.

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He and Joy, his wife, owns Sparrow Pictures, and they've planned this one-of-a-kind online

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event that is not only to relaunch the documentary, but also to stop the censorship.

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Find the link in the show notes, listen to the interview, and then make a point of getting

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your tickets to be part of this momentous event.

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You can get your tickets by using the link you'll find in the show notes.

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Okay, that concludes today's podcast, but plan on returning next week when I'll present

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part three, the final part of my interview with James Rogusky, who, as you can tell,

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is the leading expert in helping us all understand how the One World Order proponents have become

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empowered and are working to give even more power to the United Nations and the World

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Health Organization, and most importantly, what we can and must do to stop this from

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