Welcome once again to this podcast known as Faith to Live By.
I'm Pam Christian, your host, researcher, and advocate, to help us all discover and live
in life-giving truth and experience all the hope that truth provides.
Those who are regular listeners know this is a place where we explore current events
from a biblical and prophetic perspective, so we, as God's children, can know how He
wants us to respond.
As God has been exposing all manner of evil since early 2020, He is also revealing the
character of people, the faith of people.
Either we know God and have complete faith in Him and all that He has revealed, or we
don't.
Those who don't properly know God are revealed by their fear and trembling.
Sadly, there are many in the Church today, professing Christians and even Church leadership,
who are promoting doom and gloom for the people of the world, including God's people.
They are spreading fear among people with the belief that these are the end of the end
times and they are sequestering themselves waiting for God to rescue them.
This is not the narrative God has generated through His modern-day, proven prophets.
Neither does what God say through His prophets contradict His written Word.
Many people have claimed to have understanding of exactly what the Bible says about the end
times.
But one thing they don't highlight is that not even Jesus knows the day or the hour of
His return, only the Father.
Can we gain clues from world events and signs in the skies about where we are in God's
timeline?
Absolutely.
But even when the day comes for Christ's return, we are told it will be like a thief in the
night.
This is why we are to live ready for Christ's return at all times.
As I've shared before, there is nowhere in Scripture where God instructs His people to
hide, cower, and fearfully wait for Christ's return.
Those who are promoting such and those who are responding accordingly are actually making
a mockery of the cross.
Christ died to give us complete victory over all the schemes and works of the enemy.
We are told to take hold of the authority and power we have in Christ and use it to
cause the enemy to retreat.
In fact, as of late, through His prophet, Julie Green, God has emphatically instructed
His people to take back what is rightfully ours, and this includes the sovereign freedom
of our health.
This week's podcast is part two of my interview with James Rogusky, the leading expert on
the efforts of proponents of One World Government and their plans to control the world population
through health regulations.
Even though I'm about to provide a brief recap, I encourage you to listen to part one if you
haven't already.
This is very important information we must not only be adequately informed about, but
we must act on.
Last week, James shared that there are four tracks that all converge with the first track
involving a meeting the United Nations has planned for September 20, 2023.
At this meeting, the United Nations plans to adopt a political declaration of the United
Nations General Assembly high-level meeting on pandemic prevention, preparedness, and
response.
This is to give them much more power than they have now.
James explained that the United Nations works on the basis that silence equals consent.
This means if we don't communicate our objections now, we forfeit our right to object in the
future.
This is very serious.
As I provided last week, I provide again the two websites James has to help us better understand
and to help us take action.
I urge you to download the letters he has crafted for you to send to any public servant
of any nation.
The plans of the United Nations and the World Health Organization impacts the entire world
population now and into the future.
We must take action and get as many others as possible to do the same.
Share this podcast with those you know and encourage them to oppose the evil agenda by
simply letting their voice be heard.
Before I present the second part of my interview with James Rogusky, I want to encourage you
with words from God through Julie Green.
Listen to this clip of her prophetic word given on Tuesday, August 15th that includes
specific mention about the World Health Organization referred to as the WHO.
In peach, in peach, they are shouting in D.C.
And soon it will be the 25th Amendment is what they are about to shout to remove the
Biden.
My children, a great shaking is taking place in Washington and a bigger one is about to
shatter certain plans.
They were about to try to pull off a great dismantling of their power in this country
has begun.
The WHO is about to be exposed big time and nothing can stop the collapse of this organization.
The Federal Reserve is also about to be exposed.
The IRS is about to be exposed.
Explosion of truth one after another is coming in this land of the eagle to set you free.
So hold on my children, the days of shock and awe are here.
It's almost the end to what has been holding you in bondage.
These are the days of your release, saith the Lord, your Redeemer.
I caution you not to think this means God's going to wipe out the WHO and the other evils
so we can just rest on our laurels and watch it happen.
No, that has never been how God works for his people.
God has always instructed his people to actively partner with him to see his will done on earth
as it is in heaven.
So if you want to see God's will to overcome various evils we have been suffering in our
nations and worldwide, then listen to what my guest James Rogusky shares about the World
Health Organization and take action with what we can and must do to see this organization
crumble as God desires.
Here's part two of my interview with James Rogusky.
All right so that's tracks one, two and three.
I know there are four tracks total.
Tell us a little bit about track four and then let me come back in and ask you some
questions.
Sure.
Almost all of the details that are associated with the first three tracks inaccurately get
attributed to what everyone calls the pandemic treaty.
Well they don't call it that and there's a good reason why they don't.
They call it the WHO Convention Agreement Plus and the plus stands for or other international
instrument.
Most people if they think about a treaty they think well you agree to some words, you sign
off on it and it's done.
You could read it and that's what you've agreed to.
Well that would be bad enough.
That's not what they're planning to do.
They're working on what's called a framework convention and what a framework convention
primarily does is it is an agreement to set up an entirely new bureaucracy that would
operate the details of this agreement on a yearly basis off into the future forever.
And so what they're asking the nations to do is agree to let a totally new batch of
unelected bureaucrats and observers and we'll talk about that in a moment which would create
a conference of the parties.
These are the cabal of people who would control this going off into the future and they would
be empowered to adopt protocols with all of the details that we would have no say in.
And that is the danger.
They're trying to set up yet another bureaucracy that would be given authority to cut out even
another level removed.
We the people and our representatives in Congress or the Senate.
Now the people who would make up the conference of the parties would be whatever nations agreed
to join and literally the manufacturers that make pandemic response products the United
Nations and all of their various agencies and all of the foundations that would be participating
they're all encouraged to donate money into this cartel and then they could be accepted
as members of the conference of the parties that would meet every year to decide all of
the details.
Well let me just give you one example of how this works to the detriment of society.
Back in 1992 all of the nations agreed to the framework convention for climate change.
So if you realize and I heard by the sound of your that you realize that if you let other
people be in charge of working out the details and you come back a decade or two or three
later don't be surprised if they've made an absolute mess of the world with what they
have decided they want to do for climate change or for pandemic prevention.
Getting into an agreement where you agree to let other people work out the details is
about the dumbest thing I could imagine anybody doing and that is what they are negotiating.
What's in the document is not what people think is in this document so there are a lot
of people talking about the pandemic treaty and I just caution everybody if you haven't
read the document yourself it the latest version was published on June 2nd it's called 2023
it's called the Bureau's text of the WHO CA plus.
Very few people have read it but that doesn't stop people from talking about quote unquote
the pandemic treaty.
Well if they're talking about the wrong thing they're probably getting all of the details
wrong so it doesn't have in it what people think it has.
It's really a venture capital prospectus to guide how these billions of dollars are going
to be spent to build out laboratory networks to look for pathogens everywhere so that they
can fear monger us at a moment's notice on an isolated location saying oh we found something
here so now we're going to go make drugs and jams and use them to try to stop what could
potentially be a problem.
Spending billions of dollars to do that in my view is you know just an absolute misappropriation
of funds putting the people in charge of that who are the ones donating the money is corruption
on a scale that is unimaginable.
Absolutely.
And so they're hoping to submit that to the May Assembly in 2024 and they need a two-thirds
vote of you know all of the nations but you have to realize that each nation gets one
vote irrespective of population.
So the tiniest little nations in the world get one vote.
The United States and you know countries like India and China that have over a billion people
they get one vote as well.
If money is going to be directed to nations to invest in this type of infrastructure with
jobs and investment and you know just a lot of money flowing they have a lot of corrupt
incentives to approve that those investments be made in their country and the United States
is on a different track already put a billion dollars into the World Bank's pandemic fund
and last month they started dispersing some of the money to 37 different nations to do
exactly that.
All right this is a lot and it's a lot because we don't have a trustworthy mainstream media
that gets this information out and so people like myself who run podcasts and who do the
research and dig for truth to try to bring the truth to as many people as possible you're
one of these truthers as I call them.
That's why it feels like it's overwhelming in a lot right now because we are getting
hit with a lot of information that's new to us even though it's been around for quite
a while.
I mean you've talked about Congress making a decision back in 1948 for goodness sakes
and yet we are being caught off guard by this.
So before we go too much further you've put together a great website where these specific
four tracks that you've just given us a verbal overview of can be studied in more detail
and you've got the visuals that really help us see the four tracks and also provide specific
call to actions.
Tell a little bit about your website and how people can get to that because we need not
to just hear this information we need to act on it.
Well you know I do something that a lot of people think is unusual but it's been a blessing.
I give everybody my phone number it's on the bottom of every article I've written on Substack.
My Substack account is just my name James Rogusky j-a-m-e-s-r-o-g-u-s-k-i dot Substack dot com.
My phone number is 310-619-3055.
I invite everyone to call the numbers on the bottom of every article because this is complicated.
And so on one of the latest articles I have a domain name that will take you directly
there.
It's called StopTheGlobalAgenda.com.
Don't do a search for that search engines are not your friend just go straight there
by typing it into your browser.
StopTheGlobalAgenda.com.
And there's a letter that you can download has all of the information you can send it
to any public server in the world quite frankly because this is a worldwide issue and it essentially
says look here are the documents that you know they are dealing with and oh by the way
they're hiding various documents about the amendments.
We have not seen an updated version since they were first submitted last September with
the framework convention.
We know that there's a 208 page document with all of the original nations submissions from
April 22nd.
They've been hiding that for three months.
We demand that there be transparency and there be a public discussion of these you know potential
agreements that would affect every person on the planet.
So you can download that and just send it off to your senator your congressperson your
governor whomever you wish and share this information with everybody else because quite
frankly step number one is awareness.
They want it to be secret and if you know about it that's the first hurdle.
If you know what they're doing and you shine light on it.
I'd like to digress a little bit and just talk about how I got into this.
A little more than a year ago in January of last year I was working in my yard.
I've got like 15 fruit trees in a tiny little yard.
It's literally a food jungle okay and I stopped a little more than a year and a half ago.
I looked up to the sky and I said God just tell me what you want me to do.
I volunteer.
Let me know how I can help and I will do it.
Now I've done that in the past and sometimes it hits you like a bolt of lightning and you
get an immediate answer and you're like wow you know I guess that's what I want I should
be doing.
Well it was a time delay and I discovered a document in March like about two months
later and I just got a shiver down my spine and I realized that I was in a position where
I knew enough and I had enough certain skill set to be able to understand what these Biden
amendments were back last year and spread the word about it.
And so what I would share with everyone else out in the world is everyone is different.
Everyone has their own strengths, their own connections, their own personal power and
skill set and things that you enjoy doing.
Some people have done music, some people have done comedy, some people have done artwork,
some people have done research or writing or just networking and talking or whatever
it might be.
Everybody is called in a different way and I just wake up every morning and I go boy
I wonder what God's going to bring today.
It's going to be interesting.
We'll see what happens.
I'm here to volunteer to help however I'm best suited to help and so if people who are
listening to this say oh I maybe I'm not good at this but I might be good at that.
I can do this to help raise awareness around the world.
It's been amazing.
I've lately just in the last week or so someone from Luxembourg in Europe reached out to me
and working with people in Trinidad and Tobago and South Africa and Australia and whatever.
You never know where the spirit of volunteering to do whatever it is that needs to be done,
not your will but a greater will.
Put it out there and see what happens.
You may be very pleasantly surprised.
I don't tell anybody what they should do because everybody has their own path, their own purpose,
their own calling but if you have a volunteer spirit and you want to help you'll be guided
to do what it is that you're supposed to do and that's all I'm doing every single day.
Absolutely and I think that those are excellent words of encouragement because right now I
think everyone would agree the world is in a crisis and we need as many people to understand
the truth and act on it as possible and regardless of a person's individual calling or skill
set or experience everybody can download this letter that you have and send it off to their
respected representatives.
So thank you for doing that much.
What else can people do at this time based on what you have provided with your website
with the StopTheGlobalAgenda.com?
You can expect to hear the answer to my last question of James with next week's podcast
and I hope you've realized it's imperative that everyone possible takes action to put
the who and the United Nations on notice, that we don't want them to have the autonomy
and authority to oversee our health the way it's being planned.
You heard James express the confusion about the pandemic treaty versus the framework convention
and it's rampant and I believe it's by design because they don't want us to know what they
are actually doing.
As James explained they are taking steps to establish an entirely new bureaucracy that
would operate the details of the agreement on a yearly basis indefinitely.
What they want the nations to agree to is an entirely new batch of unelected bureaucrats
and observers as a conference of the parties, a cabal of people in control and empowered
to adopt protocols that we would have no say in.
They want to set up another bureaucracy that would be given authority to cut out another
level of input from we the people.
The members of this conference of the parties would be any nation that agrees to join, drug
manufacturers that make pandemic response products, United Nations agencies and any
non-government organizations and foundations such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
that would be encouraged to donate money into this cartel.
What they want to hold is another framework convention to assign people to oversee the
details and management of potential pandemics.
And by the way I recall from my earlier interview with James that the definition of pandemic
is so broad that it could include anything, the common cold for example.
What have we learned about the COVID-19 virus since the tyrannical claims that it would
cause unprecedented deaths worldwide?
Well we've learned that COVID-19 somehow mysteriously replaced the common influenza virus that essentially
disappeared according to the records of the CDC.
We've also learned that many of the deaths associated with COVID-19 were a result of
pre-existing conditions or the treatment people received to control the virus including the
jab.
And remember as James pointed out it was 1992 that the nations agreed to a framework convention
that would oversee climate change.
And where has that gotten the world today?
Billions of dollars and crazy plans to control the climate have been presented including
Bill Gates' plan to put chemicals in the skies to block the sun and imposing penalties against
cattle farmers with the claim that the cattle's methane gas emissions are damaging our climate.
And very recently the Biden administration announced it will spend $1.2 billion in taxpayer
dollars to vacuum the sky of carbon dioxide.
Read the article using the link in the show notes.
All of this and more while Princeton MIT scientists say EPA climate regulations are based on a
hoax.
A physicist and a meteorologist recently testified that the climate agenda is disastrous for
the United States also stating quote the scientific method proves there is no risk that fossil
fuels and carbon dioxide will cause catastrophic warming and extreme weather end quote.
Again a link to the article is in the show notes.
What the World Health Organization wants to approve is not a pandemic treaty but what's
called the Bureau's text of the World Health Organization's Convention Agreement Plus
which translates to an effort to create a venture capital prospectus to guide how billions
of dollars are spent to turn up potential pandemics and fear monger us.
It's the same play over and over.
Secure tax dollars off the backs of the common people to fund your scheme.
Create a problem to control the masses then walk out a vaccine or other remedy and mandate
its use so they can make untold additional billions of dollars all for themselves.
I agree with James.
This creates a method for a scale of corruption that is unimaginable.
No wonder God wants to wipe it all out and God expects us to partner with him to accomplish
his will.
This is all part of track four of what we need to know which requires our response in
plenty of time before their May 2024 vote where they need two-thirds approval from all
the nations and remember each nation gets one vote regardless of the population.
For nations that want to be corrupt and receive funds to do research etc. this is an incentive
to sell the people out.
Unfortunately the United States has already donated one billion of our tax dollars to
the World Bank's Pandemic Fund and last month disbursements to 37 different nations were
already made.
This podcast is being created right after the horrendous and highly suspicious Maui
Fire where American people are not receiving aid from our government but our government
spends billions and billions of dollars with the World Health Organization and Ukraine
and all sorts of other America last efforts.
I've been researching and sharing what I've learned with this podcast since July 2020
and the efforts for a one-world government where the sovereignty of the nations are dissolved
is real.
I invite you to learn more about who is behind the one-world government using the link to
Dave Sorensen's excellent work.
You'll find it in the show notes.
I also invite you to research the very real potential that the United Nations is operating
with an occult agenda.
Find a link in the show notes to get you started with your research.
And please be sure to visit James Rogusky's sites to learn more about the four tracks,
the deadlines for us to take action and specifically what we can do.
And again, share this podcast with others so we can get as many people as possible enlightened
and taking action on these important issues.
Another important issue with the deadline is the upcoming premier red carpet town hall
massive relaunch of the documentary titled The Trump I Know is scheduled for August 27.
I did a whole separate interview with Matt Thayer, the filmmaker for this project.
He and Joy, his wife, owns Sparrow Pictures, and they've planned this one-of-a-kind online
event that is not only to relaunch the documentary, but also to stop the censorship.
Find the link in the show notes, listen to the interview, and then make a point of getting
your tickets to be part of this momentous event.
You can get your tickets by using the link you'll find in the show notes.
Okay, that concludes today's podcast, but plan on returning next week when I'll present
part three, the final part of my interview with James Rogusky, who, as you can tell,
is the leading expert in helping us all understand how the One World Order proponents have become
empowered and are working to give even more power to the United Nations and the World
Health Organization, and most importantly, what we can and must do to stop this from
advancing.
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