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I asked my dentist for Spearmint, but I'm pretty

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sure she gave me a new car. Hello, everybody.

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Thank you all so much for listening to Memingless,

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a deep dive podcast into the internet's incorrectitude.

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I am your humble host, Nate, and should I invite

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Bobbie? Too late. I'm in. Ah, Bobbie. Aloh-Bob.

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Bob Beachside Resort. What? Oh, "Bobbiechside

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Bobbie. side resort. Okay. I was wondering where

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I was going with that. Yeah, I was a little curious.

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By the time I finish these scripts, it's like

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I'm so far removed from the puns that I don't

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even remember what I was writing. Anyway, I have

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a meme for you to look at and I would like you

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to explain to our audience what it looks like

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and how it reads. I'll do my best. It looks like

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something out of Borderlands. Yeah, it does.

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It's got a similar art style. I don't think I

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played this one. Okay, I'm just trying to figure

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out how to describe this. We got a bald guy.

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It looks like they're all standing around on

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a beach. Bald guy on a beach, and he's yelling

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at a group of other people. And the bald guy's

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got a, is that the Democratic donkey on his arm?

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Yeah, yeah. He's got it tattooed on his upper

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arm. And he's yelling, back off! It's a group

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of three other people. Yeah, so this is a graphic

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novel -style drawing of Kirill Basin. He's fighting

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with beachgoers at Kawakapu Beach in Maui. I'm

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not even going to try to say Maui right. I'm

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just going to say it the way us mainlanders do.

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But Basin is a 40 -year -old jackass with a history

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of violently threatening behavior. And he got

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knocked out by... a supposed MMAist, a guy who

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studied MMA or whatever, after allegedly threatening

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to shoot some dude's wife and brandishing a knife.

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Basically, the fact that he was allegedly going

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to shoot some people with a knife and is now

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in jail is really all you need to know about

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him. But the Internet has decided to keep drawing

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us back to this event. And it's not because there's

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a video. It's not just because there's a video

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of Basin getting knocked out that went viral.

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The motives for keeping this event alive will

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be clear as we look into this meme. So we will

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get back to this image. But just to get this

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out of the way, I'll save you. The video is dumb

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and boring. I'll kind of save you time on that.

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I have the link here. I read so much and wrote.

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I was writing and reading and I read so, so much

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before I finally got myself to watch the dumb

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video. Because I just don't like watching people

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fight. It's annoying. So essentially what happens

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in the video, he's fighting with some people.

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They're already in an argument when the video

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starts because that's why they're recording.

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It's because he's in this heated argument with

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a 61 -year -old guy. Uh -oh. And very shortly

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after the video begins, they both decide that

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the fight's over, they're done, and they're going

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to move on with it, their lives. So they shake

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hands, right? He and this dude, they shake hands,

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say it's over. Okay. Well, the dude's wife keeps

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saying shit to Basin. Basin, who seems very childish,

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decides to keep arguing with this woman. There's

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zero seconds between him shaking hands with this

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dude. And arguing with the dude's wife. It is

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so pathetic. It's like the most childish thing

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ever. I would say that I think that Basin is

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drunk in this interaction. But the thing is that

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he has supposedly been sober for many years.

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Something odd about his sobriety, though. So

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he became an ambassador for this app called the

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Lucid app. The Lucid app is a sobriety app that

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helps connect sober people. to social events,

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that kind of thing. They even have like a dating

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app for sober people, that kind of stuff. It's

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a neat concept and stuff. It sells itself as

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like, you know, if somebody's looking for sobriety

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in a group that's less religious, that's not

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religious like AA is. It's like, well, in AA,

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they emphasize again and again and again that

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you don't, that it's not a religious program.

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And a lot of people have seen the South Park

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episode where they're like, oh, well, you have

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to admit that there's a higher power than yourself,

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but therefore that makes it a religious program.

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It's like, no, no, literally, literally admitting

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that there's a higher power than yourself in

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AA. One of the things that God, because like

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they use the word God a lot in it. It was written

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a long time ago, a lot of the writings and stuff.

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And some of them are from religious perspectives.

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But if you're not a non -believer or a non -religious

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person. The guy who came up with AA, if you're

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a non -believer or whatever, he knew immediately

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early on that they couldn't make it a Christian

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organization because they're going to alienate

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other people who want to be sober. Right. They

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decided early on it's not a religious organization.

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So one of the things that they recommend is like

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one of the things that could be a higher power

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than yourself is like a group of people. And

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so AA itself can be your higher power or like

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the group of friends or whatever. Makes sense.

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And so G -O -D can stand for group of drunks

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because they call themselves sober drunks. You

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know, so they don't, they make it pretty clear

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that it's not a religious organization. So the

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fact that the Lucid app is selling itself as

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a, you know, if you're looking for a non -religious

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whatever, it's like they watch the South Park

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episode and that's all they know about AA. It's

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like, look into it. You know, it's, if it. If

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you're somebody trying to get sober or whatever,

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look into AA. But this Lucid app, I'm not saying

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that there's anything wrong with it. If there

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are different approaches to people getting sober,

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whatever. But the fact that it sells it that

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way is kind of irritating. Basin is connected

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to this app to the extent that he was one of

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their ambassadors when he lived in, I think it

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was when he was in New Jersey. He used to live

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in New Jersey a long time ago. He lives in Hawaii

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now. He wasn't just visiting. for the fight.

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He's connected to this app to the extent that

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he was a quote unquote ambassador. Ambassadors

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were people who got on early on during the founding

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of this app, like before the launch parties and

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stuff like that. And they were just people in

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different communities where the primary owners

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of Lucid were not at so that they could function

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as people introducing to those areas because

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it's a community type of network. You know, it's

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meant to set up people meeting in person and

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stuff. So he was an ambassador to that. So he's

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supposedly sober, a sober person. Now, according

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to Basin, sober seems to only mean sober from

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alcohol. Okay. Which I don't think is sober.

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I don't think so either. So, I mean, it's good

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on him for not, you know, for giving up alcohol

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or whatever. Yeah. But he switched to, you know,

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cocaine. He shared this post a while back, years

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ago. It was a clip of Carrie Fisher. Hey, your

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humble host, Nate here. The clarification I would

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like to make is that Kirill Basin's sobriety.

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It may not just be from alcohol. Specifically,

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Kirill Basin said that he would be sober from,

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not alcohol, but from opiates. And that he would,

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quote, stay away from the opiates and stay close

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to psychedelics because of a royal decree from

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Princess Leia. Prior to becoming sober, Kirill

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Basin had posted a video on his YouTube channel,

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a clip of him doing some stand -up comedy, if

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you can call it that. There were no actual jokes

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there, it seemed. It said that he did it at the

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Laughing Buddha, and he posted this on October

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28th, 2016. And the description that he put along

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with it reads, When you take sedatives to counteract

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your impending manic an hour before the show,

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drink wine and vaporize tobacco and nothing else

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through everyone else's sets, write no jokes

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and go last, you begin to sympathize with Michael

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Richards and his plight. Michael Richards is

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the guy who played Kramer and during one of his

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stand -ups got angry with a disruptive patron

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who was black and called him the N -word in front

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of everybody. Yeah, not the ideal situation you

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want to empathize with. Talking about how doing

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psychedelics is like, you know, you could be

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sober from alcohol, but psychedelics are good

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somehow. You know, I didn't watch the clip, but...

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It's good for your brain. I mean, we know Carrie.

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We know who Carrie Fisher was. She liked her

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substances. And not that there's anything wrong

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with that. People like their drugs and their

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alcohol, whatever, as long as you can keep it

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under control, whatever. But if you can't, find

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sobriety. And Basin did, kind of. It sounds like

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maybe he still does psychedelics. I don't know.

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But his behavior was not. His behavior was unbecoming

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of a sober person in the speech video where he

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was just arguing with all these people. And this

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guy comes up who's a lot bigger than Basin. Basin

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is, oh, God, I think his height was like 5 '8

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or something like that. He's a short guy. He

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also is very thin, very small person. And this

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other guy, he comes up and he works in construction.

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He's a big guy, big Hawaiian guy. And he's finally

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like, I've got to put an end to this because

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this conflict is not stopping. And he approaches

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the group, comes to basically put Basin in his

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place. Basin gets irate with that guy, starts

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arguing with him. When it becomes clear that

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that guy is not going to back down, Basin starts

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like kind of backing up but still trying to be,

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you know, feisty. Right. And so he finally, he

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realizes there's no way he's going to take this

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big guy. So he takes this beach chair and tries

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to swing it. And the guy kind of punches around

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the chair and gets a basin in the, in the chin

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and knocks him out. And he just goes flat to

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the ground real fast. It didn't even look like

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a hard hit, but sometimes when you get these,

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these hits, the, what it, you know, it can, it

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can still knock a person out, you know, without

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hitting them. brain part of a head anyway basin

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goes down easy um so the guy gets down he kind

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of looks surprised at first that he knocked knocked

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basin out but he gets down he starts like kind

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of rubbing his chest saying wake up wake up you

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know like waking him back making sure he didn't

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accidentally kill the guy yeah you know so like

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i mean he wakes he wakes the dude up and um He's

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still feisty. You know, he still wants to fight,

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but he knows he can't do anything. And he walks

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away. And as he's walking away, he's like stumbling

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a bit, you know, still like he's dazed. You could

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tell he's pretty dazed. He's like a mile away

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and he's still yelling at them. It's the dumbest

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video. It's awful to watch. It's so idiotic.

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And we're going to go over how this story keeps

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getting traction and social and other media,

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along with all the stupid ways that it's been

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covered and misinterpreted. But we're going to

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start with our springboard meme here. the the

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one i showed you and um this gen this image probably

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generated by ai was uh shared by pleasant moments

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and fell on facebook looks like a pleasant moment

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yeah sure i love a little aggression i love how

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all these pages like clearly started with one

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intention yeah and they found their clickbait

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somewhere else you know But pleasant moments

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shared this beach fight in which a guy gets knocked

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out, yelling and swearing at each other. It seemed

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like a real pleasant moment. It was pleasant

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for everybody else. Yeah, it was on the ground.

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When he was finally quiet, I'm sure that was

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pleasant. Thank God he finally shut up. No, it's

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not fun watching people get knocked out, no matter

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how much they deserve it. I kind of enjoy it

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sometimes. That guy was a prick. I mean, there

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is a little bit of you that's going to be like,

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yeah, that needed to happen. He was not going

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to stop unless somebody stopped him. Did you

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ever see that video about the guy that got knocked

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out with a can of Arizona tea? No. Oh, my God.

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That was a good one. That guy had it coming.

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Jesus. I saw this video of this guy trying to

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act really intimidating and yelling and flexing

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all his muscles at once, trying to look real

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strong. And to be intimidating, he took his head

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and he hit it on the side of this car and then

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was still trying to act intimidating. Well, the

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dude who he was threatening saw his opportunity.

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and clocked him and he went down flat he's like

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that dude just gave me an assist i'm putting

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him down so essentially he's like the he's like

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the on the brink of being dropped already i can

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drop him now and be done with this. He took that

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opportunity to lay the guy out. I misspoke a

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second ago. It wasn't Arizona tea. It was twisted

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tea. Oh, well, see, that makes more sense. Did

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you see that one? No. Oh, well, I've seen that

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one. Oh, that one, yeah, of course. Well, now

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I know what kind of tea it is. It was a yellow

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can. See, the twisted tea is the public fight

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tea. Oh, is that? Okay. The Arizona tea is a

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bunch of dorks on a road trip tea. That's what

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that is. And I know because I used to be one

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of those. Until I realized that drinking those

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giant teas, I'd have like three of them. And

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we'd have to stop so many times to use them.

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Yeah, that's a terrible thing for a road trip.

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It was awful. But, you know, it took me a long

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time to learn my lesson. But, so Pleasant Moments

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shared this image. And the comment section is

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sad, believe it or not. So the people like the...

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Every time I get on Facebook and I read the comments,

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I get a little bummed out that there is either

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all robots talking to each other on there or

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there really is a disconnected collection of

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humans who all talk kind of past each other with

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no like compatibility between them or or any.

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capacity to think critically you know it's just

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this very odd there's something vague and unsettling

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about the level of intellect in the facebook

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comment section especially on a post like this

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one of the more irritating things about this

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post um this meme is that the person who prompted

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this image insisted on the screaming dude having

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a democratic democrat donkey tattooed on him

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The tattoo, the donkey tattoo is indicative of

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what the motive is with the picture like this,

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with a meme like this. People get knocked unconscious

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all the time, right? They get knocked out all

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the time on camera, and the videos do some modest

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numbers, but in this case, people on the right

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wing of politics are trying to ride this wave

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for a little bit. There's nothing special about

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some idiot getting punched out after threatening

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a group of people, but... If you have political

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ideologies that are so idiotic that wins for

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you are exceedingly rare, you might be incentivized

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to keep this footage alive. And that's because

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Basin was running in Hawaii's second congressional

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district as a Democrat. We got him. We got him,

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guys. We got him. Of course. Of course he's a

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Democrat. Right? Right? Because the... The Democrats,

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they all act like that, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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Whenever somebody's behaving rudely in public,

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my first thought is Democrat, that's for sure.

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I mean, you never see Pete Hegseth threatening

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violence. other than all those times that he

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did, or Donald Trump being aggressive toward

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women, except all those times that he did, and

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you never see a Republican congressional candidate

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being charged with violent behavior besides Max

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Miller, John Gillette, Tracy Wheeler, and lots

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of others. This time, though, it's a Democrat.

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We got him. Now, according to AI, according to

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AI, I asked AI, I decided I'm going to ask AI

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a question, and everybody's going to be real

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shocked by that, but I needed the assistance

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of AI because I wanted to, I'm like, I don't

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know where to start. You know, I want to know

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about this Democratic congressman. According

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to AI, Basin was considered a strong Democratic

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congressional candidate before this event. But

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this video of him behaving badly and getting

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knocked out has soured his chances. Except AI

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must stand for an idiot because none of that's

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true. Now, Basin was running for Congress against

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incumbent Representative Jill Takuda, who is

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unlikely to lose her. nomination, who was unlikely

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to lose her nomination. Shockingly, she did not.

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She did not lose. Electionprobabilities .com

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had her at a 92 % likelihood of winning in the

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primary with Basin tied with two other Democrats

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at 3 % or less. Most polling put Basin at a near

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zero chance of winning before getting knocked

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out at the beach, and the most this video did

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was buy him name recognition. The final primary

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votes came in and Basin was dead last at 1 .5%.

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He got 1 ,522 votes when Tokuda got 91 ,832.

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The second place and third place candidates each

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had double the votes of Basin. Wow. Yeah. But

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right -wingers are riding on the fact that Basin

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was running as a Democrat. And the people who

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are riding on that, they are telling on themselves

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a little bit. They are desperate for a win. Like

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so desperate because their president started

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a war and is doing terribly at everything while

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falling asleep and shitting himself on TV over

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and over again. But, but, but Bobby, Bobby, this

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guy that no one's heard of, not even in his own

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district in which he's running and who seems

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to like Trump, by the way, but doesn't like Trump.

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It's, it's complicated. He's, he's running as

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a Democrat and he got punched because he's dumb.

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Yeah. Plus, they need this. They need this so

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bad, Bobby. That's why they have to emphasize

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that he's a Democrat. Even though Hawaiian News

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Now specified in their headline that he was a

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long shot congressional candidate. You don't

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even have to read the article. It's in the headline.

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He's not like an established part of the Democratic

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Party or even a serious candidate at all. But

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it's funny how Fox News and the New York Post

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decided to forego the long shot part. Here's

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a couple of the headlines from Fox News. Quote,

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Hawaii Democrat House candidate faces felony

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threat charges after beach fight caught on video.

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Another one. Knockout at Maui Beach caps turbulent

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stretch for Democratic candidate facing felony

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allegations. Now, turbulent stretch is a funny

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way to explain not at all likely whatsoever long

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shot attempt at running in the primary. The truth

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is, no one knew or cared about Basin. Except

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for maybe one councilman. And we'll get to why.

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Maybe his mom. Well... Maybe. We're going to

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talk about his mom, too, very briefly. But for

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anyone who's skeptical of my assessment that

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the primary... fuel. Keeping memes about this

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event alive is a right -wing struggle for some

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kind of win. I want to read a footbook post that

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was included with today's meme and tagged with

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pictures of Basin. It says, quote, expose this

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leftist. Democratic congressional candidate gets

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knocked out cold on Maui Beach after threatening

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to shoot a man's wife. Kirill Basin 40, a Democrat

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running against Representative Jill Tokuda, blah,

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blah, blah. The Post goes on to describe the

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event and then closes with, this is the man asking

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Hawaii voters to send him to Congress. This is

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the man, it reads, despite the fact that there

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were two other men running against Tokuda in

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the primaries and Basin was the least popular

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among them. The comment section, God, I hate

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reading comment sections, but the comment sections

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of... Some of these posts seem to accept it at

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face value that because this guy is running as

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a Democrat, he must be an accepted part of the

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Democratic Party and therefore a representative

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of Democratic candidates. Most of the comments

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are unbelievably stupid with jokes lumping all

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Democrats with Basin, who by any account is a

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very unique individual and is probably not representative

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of any group except for one. He is a representative

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of one group, and I'll explain that too. Now,

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looking at right -wing discourses where I get

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a little bit sad because I legitimately feel

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bad like I'm picking on someone when it comes

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to analyzing these people. And I don't just mean

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the comment section or like the less informed

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randos of the internet, but the entire right

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-wing voter base in general. So like Tucker Carlson

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sells some far -fetched nonsense and claims to

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have been actually attacked by a demon and says

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that scratches he woke up with on his back are

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proof of him being attacked by a demon. In spite

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of the fact that he sleeps with multiple large

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dogs in his bed and doesn't behave ever as if

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he sincerely believes that he was attacked by

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a demon. He had an expert on angels and demons

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and the divine on his show. Never once brought

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up the fact that he was attacked by a demon.

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We missed a perfect opportunity. These are the

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kind of people that... these groups look up to,

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right? Tucker Carlson's one of the most popular

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among them. Recently, Dave Rubin made an absolute

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embarrassment of himself on Surrounded, dumb

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show, by the way, and still got invited on a

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number of right -wing programs to talk about

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the event like he did just fine because the right

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-wing need him as their token homosexual so they

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can pretend that they don't hate queer people

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while openly hating queer people. These people

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are fraudulent and they're scammers, right? Being

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fooled by these people doesn't make a person

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stupid necessarily, but people actively perpetuating

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and supporting these liars in spite of consistent

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contradictory evidence at least shows a lack

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of depth when it comes to understanding socialist

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issues, politics, healthcare. the economy, basically

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all the things on which the right wing politicians

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have a very poor track record. So I feel bad

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when I try to analyze these people and I try

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to, you know, think about their perspective and

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things, because it becomes clear again and again

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and again that there's not a lot of intellectual

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depth to them. And it kind of feels like you're

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picking on them, you know, because they're getting

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fooled all the time, you know, especially when

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it comes to these comment sections, like this

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shallow level of understanding is. It's like

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this flickery intellect among these comment sections.

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It's not an exception. It's becoming more and

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more the rule. It seems like more people who

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are willing to still support right -wing politics

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as they are today, they cannot possibly be serious

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people intellectually. It's like you're picking

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on somebody who's weak or has a disability of

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some kind. So when I read into this, so I call...

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I call the intellect of those realms flickery

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because it's kind of like a busted TV screen.

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Like if it's plugged in, it won't provide much.

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And it doesn't seem to be able to access or convey

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any information. But if you're in the same room

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with one, it might occasionally flash pretty

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bright and catch your attention. But if you stare

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long enough, you realize that there's nothing

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useful about it. If you happen to be watching

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when the screen flashes again, you'll notice

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that all it is is a meaningless flicker. No information.

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Just an unpleasant... gleam of bright magnitude

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but nothing of substance. At most, there'll be

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a vague, faint, blurry image of something resembling

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something. It seems to be all these people can

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recall. Now, I want to believe that the activity

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among these commenters is mostly bot -driven.

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A hell of a lot of online activity is. In real

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time, AI is making the dead internet theory a

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reality. Do you know the dead internet theory?

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No, I was going to ask. What is that? So that's

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been around for a while. Before some of these

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more complex AI systems have come out, basically

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it's the idea that most interactions on the internet

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are done between bots. Oh, yeah. Okay. And now

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with more and more AI, it becomes more and more

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true. And it's especially true on Twitter currently.

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That whole website is dead. There's hardly any

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real people left on there. It's like a handful

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of like... far -right weirdos who are all jerking

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each other off, and they don't understand that

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they're in a pool of robots. You know, it's,

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it's, yeah. Anyway, unfortunately, a lot of these

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people swimming around these comment sections,

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they are actually human people caught up in a

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web of misinformation and dopamine cycles of

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self -validation. It makes me sad because it

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seemed like in the past, most people would not

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engage in a conversation if they knew nothing

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about it, or would at least look things up if

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they were going to pretend to know. But more

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and more influence comes from shitheads like

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Tim Pool or Asmongold who show their audiences

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that the way to look smart is to just read a

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headline and start yammering authoritatively

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about the subject without ever looking into any

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context. And that's the way some of these shows

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work. Like Asmongold will cycle through headlines

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and people send him headlines and stuff. And

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he'll just read the headline and he'll kind of

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start to scroll in the article. And he'll just

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start yammering on about, oh, this is the way

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it always is. And, you know, going off on the

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fucking headline. And I'll, you know, here in

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a little bit, I'll get to why you can't just

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go by a headline. Like sometimes the body text

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completely contradicts what the headline seems

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to say. It's like the little clickbait thumbnail

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thing. Yeah. Yeah. And people and dipshits like

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Asmongold and Tim Pool, they read the headline

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and then they just want to. Talk like they're

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an authority on the information about it. And

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it's it's sad. It's it's idiotic. And it's it's

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encouraging these people to engage in conversation

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without knowing anything. Just adding to like

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just this ever spinning cycle of bullshit. It's

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it's ridiculous. This shit behavior rolls downhill

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into the comment sections. Right. And so it doesn't

00:26:06.089 --> 00:26:08.910
matter if Kirill Basin isn't a candidate in any

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serious sense of the term. What matters is that

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the headline reads that he's a Democrat, and

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the picture of him in the meme has a Democrat

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donkey tattoo, and he's running for Congress

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in the Democratic primary. Now that's an interesting

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term. Primary. Democratic primary. The name suggests

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that this race is between Democrats specifically.

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That's probably why Basin ran in the primary,

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because he's a big dumb lib. Democratic cuck

00:26:33.930 --> 00:26:36.509
or whatever. But how much of a leftist really

00:26:36.509 --> 00:26:39.650
is Basin? Now, while Basin seems to have been

00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:42.029
pretty consistent in terms of supporting things

00:26:42.029 --> 00:26:45.829
like civil rights, LGBTQ representation, climate

00:26:45.829 --> 00:26:49.329
activism, he strikes me as a little bit performative

00:26:49.329 --> 00:26:53.789
and contrarian. In 2016, he ended up voting against

00:26:53.789 --> 00:26:56.710
a Democrat in that district because that Democrat

00:26:56.710 --> 00:27:00.789
was for gun control after Sandy Hook. And he

00:27:00.789 --> 00:27:04.329
voted for... the Republican that had no political

00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:07.710
history and the Republican that he voted for,

00:27:07.809 --> 00:27:11.369
he ended, he ended up being a very big Trump

00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:15.049
supporter, um, in the end. So he, the basin,

00:27:15.150 --> 00:27:18.579
not, he. He's kind of knee jerky, you know, in

00:27:18.579 --> 00:27:21.579
that sort of way. And, you know, the fact that

00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:24.380
he's a big leftist liberal cuck is probably why

00:27:24.380 --> 00:27:26.599
on June 3rd of this year, he tagged Representative

00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.519
Adam Kinsinger, a Republican, and asked if Kinsinger

00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.839
would like to be his running mate for his presidential

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:36.079
ticket. So, yeah, this guy who couldn't manage

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.259
2%, he couldn't get 2 % in a local primary, wants

00:27:39.259 --> 00:27:41.240
to run for president and is already naming a

00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.649
VP, a Republican VP, by the way. Sure. Fucking

00:27:45.649 --> 00:27:48.829
leftist. Now, I know a lot of people make non

00:27:48.829 --> 00:27:50.869
-serious runs for president, but Basin strikes

00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.970
me as someone who is just the right level of

00:27:53.970 --> 00:27:56.390
out of touch with reality to sincerely believe

00:27:56.390 --> 00:27:59.529
he has a chance. And probably right up to the

00:27:59.529 --> 00:28:01.890
end, too. Probably for unfounded reasons, essentially.

00:28:02.289 --> 00:28:05.369
Even if there's no good reason for him to win

00:28:05.369 --> 00:28:07.309
or to even think he's going to win, I feel like

00:28:07.309 --> 00:28:10.329
he's the type of person who can continue to believe

00:28:10.329 --> 00:28:13.519
that he will. Oh, yeah. And that's because he's

00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:16.200
one of these flickery commenters. He's one of

00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.680
the comment section people. As evidence that

00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.700
Basin is one of these typical comment section

00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:26.599
time wasters, I can present to you a long argument

00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:31.059
Basin had on Reddit about typos and putting each

00:28:31.059 --> 00:28:34.509
other down for how... their intelligence, you

00:28:34.509 --> 00:28:35.950
know, being condescending to each other about

00:28:35.950 --> 00:28:38.150
how much more smart I am than you, that kind

00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:41.230
of, that kind of stupid argument. And this long

00:28:41.230 --> 00:28:44.049
ongoing argument was, was, it was with somebody

00:28:44.049 --> 00:28:48.970
with the username, the vampire scriptures. Uh,

00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:56.289
anyway, on May 31st comment section, representative

00:28:56.289 --> 00:29:00.000
basin, uh, posted on Facebook. By the way, I'm

00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.140
not one of those politicians who says this is

00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:04.579
the only office I want. I want to be president.

00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:07.880
So we got the constitutional amendment in the

00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.599
works. Now, the amendment to which he's referring,

00:29:12.859 --> 00:29:15.180
Basin needs a constitutional amendment because

00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:18.619
according to a post he made to Joe Rogan, he

00:29:18.619 --> 00:29:22.599
is an immigrant born in Ukraine. Basin's mother

00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.940
at 23, when she was 23 years old, she left Ukraine.

00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.640
which was part of the Soviet Union at the time.

00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:33.279
And according to Basin, his mother took four

00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.859
generations of her family and fled the Soviet

00:29:35.859 --> 00:29:38.140
Union. He didn't include all that in the post

00:29:38.140 --> 00:29:40.160
to Rogan. That's something I found out later.

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.740
But it makes his bid for president a little difficult.

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:51.539
Now, he tags Joe Rogan, and he seems to like

00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:55.539
tagging people with a lot of influence. And for

00:29:55.539 --> 00:29:59.400
listeners who, Follow me on Blue Sky. I know

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.640
I've tagged Dr. Hoda several times, and that's

00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:03.839
because he's my only internet friend, and he'll

00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:05.579
continue to have to deal with that until I have

00:30:05.579 --> 00:30:10.059
more friends. So, Basin tagged Rogan asking to

00:30:10.059 --> 00:30:13.180
have a conversation about, quote, civil liberties

00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:17.240
and accountability. I know it's tempting to laugh

00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:20.740
at Basin for this reach, okay? But this post

00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:23.700
isn't as dumb as it sounds. Rogan is definitely

00:30:23.700 --> 00:30:27.980
the right kind of gullible for Basin, Not that

00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:29.440
Basin would try to trick him or anything like

00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.880
that. I actually do believe that Kirill Basin

00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.039
is a sincere person in a lot of what he says.

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:43.140
But Basin's batshit, okay, like Basin's batshittery,

00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:45.559
trying to make a noun out of batshit. I mean,

00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.019
it is a noun, but it's an adjective usually.

00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.799
Anyway. He's batshit crazy. And his batshittery

00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.619
is like the peanut butter to Joe Rogan's gullibility

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:57.940
chocolate. It's like the perfect combination.

00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.940
So it's not as dumb as that. But anyway, he would

00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:04.140
be the perfect candidate for or the perfect guest

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:08.759
for Joe Rogan's awful show. Yeah. Basin includes

00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.339
in the post that that he is a New York University

00:31:12.339 --> 00:31:17.000
law graduate and former public defender. Now,

00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.200
he posts a lot that he's a New York University

00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:24.980
graduate, a New York University law graduate.

00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:30.480
And I kept thinking, like, he just says that,

00:31:30.500 --> 00:31:33.480
you know, and then he says that he was also a

00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.160
public defender, almost like the two things aren't

00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.000
related or whatever. So I thought I was going

00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.700
to find out that he didn't actually graduate

00:31:39.700 --> 00:31:41.420
or he graduated with a different degree. And,

00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:44.109
you know, he just. practice the law just apparently

00:31:44.109 --> 00:31:45.990
anybody can you know maybe that kind of thing

00:31:45.990 --> 00:31:50.529
yeah no he actually i mean he he was a real public

00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:52.809
defender i'm just not in any of the districts

00:31:52.809 --> 00:31:54.589
you would expect i think he was the public defender

00:31:54.589 --> 00:32:00.250
in alaska yeah i mean not a lot of work up there

00:32:00.250 --> 00:32:02.950
he's he's been all over the fucking place right

00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:06.250
and in alaska i don't know like i don't know

00:32:06.250 --> 00:32:08.029
how big their pool is to choose from you know

00:32:08.029 --> 00:32:10.910
yeah he might have been it But yeah, no, he's

00:32:10.910 --> 00:32:13.109
not a serious candidate for anything at all.

00:32:13.150 --> 00:32:15.490
But the people sharing this meme, they have to

00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:17.549
keep sharing it because, oh, a Democrat did something

00:32:17.549 --> 00:32:20.269
stupid, you know. And I want to put Democrat

00:32:20.269 --> 00:32:24.029
in quotes because he's he's not he's barely he's

00:32:24.029 --> 00:32:26.109
not even he wouldn't without this video. He wouldn't

00:32:26.109 --> 00:32:29.690
be a blip on anybody's radar. Right. But for

00:32:29.690 --> 00:32:32.589
his vehement stupidity, Kirill Basin was charged

00:32:32.589 --> 00:32:35.710
for the beach fight when he was charged for terroristic

00:32:35.710 --> 00:32:38.940
threat of the first degree. I want to point out

00:32:38.940 --> 00:32:40.380
that there is an important legal distinction

00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:43.839
between terrorism and terroristic threat. Terrorism

00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.980
refers to violence of the threat or the threat

00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.700
of violence in order to incite some kind of social

00:32:50.700 --> 00:32:55.079
or political change. There is a motive beyond

00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.700
the immediate fear, harm or death that's that

00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:00.940
may be caused in the illegal act. This is why

00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:03.160
it drives me crazy that when authorities say

00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.220
that they're still looking for a motive when,

00:33:05.259 --> 00:33:08.059
you know, for like a terrorist attack and people

00:33:08.059 --> 00:33:11.099
post like motive, the motive of terrorism is

00:33:11.099 --> 00:33:13.940
to kill. It's the hate when people post that.

00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.680
So idiotic. The motive of terrorism is specifically

00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.180
not the act of killing. It's the desired social

00:33:19.180 --> 00:33:22.119
political change that the terrorist thinks going

00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.900
to be accomplished through fear. It's an idiotic

00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:27.180
way to try to bring about change since terrorism

00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:29.380
tends to galvanize people rather than persuade

00:33:29.380 --> 00:33:32.299
them. But the motive is the change, regardless

00:33:32.299 --> 00:33:34.519
of how stupid the process or unlikely the outcome.

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:38.039
Terroristic threat is a different charge. In

00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:45.180
Hawaii, there is legal precedent to define terrorizing

00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:48.880
as, quote, the risk of causing another person

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:53.900
serious harm, serious alarm for his or her personal

00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:57.619
safety. And according to Wise Penal Code, Chapter

00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:01.279
707, a person commits terroristic threat of the

00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.940
first degree, quote, by threatening another person

00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:08.619
on one or more occasions for the same or similar

00:34:08.619 --> 00:34:13.239
purpose or by threats made in common scheme against

00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:18.059
a different person. Other ways to escalate terroristic

00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:21.440
threat to the first degree include things like

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.500
brandishing a weapon. or something that looks

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:28.460
like a weapon. Now, that last part bothers me,

00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:33.039
something that looks like a weapon. And the way

00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.900
that the code's written kind of bothers me a

00:34:34.900 --> 00:34:38.880
little bit. It says use of, quote, dangerous

00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:44.099
instrument or simulated firearm. That will elevate

00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:46.699
a terroristic threat charge to one of the first

00:34:46.699 --> 00:34:51.880
degree, which is reasonable if the... simulated

00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.079
firearm can be narrowly defined. Here's how the

00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.019
law defines a simulated firearm in Hawaii. It's

00:34:59.019 --> 00:35:02.199
any object that, one, substantially resembles

00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.159
a firearm, two, can be reasonably perceived to

00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:11.139
be a firearm, or three, is brandished as a firearm.

00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.639
It's number two that bothers me. Number one is

00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.500
reasonable to the extent that if an object really

00:35:16.500 --> 00:35:20.239
does resemble a firearm, and you can show a jury

00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.280
the object and the jury will agree on its firearmality,

00:35:23.619 --> 00:35:26.019
then it's reasonable to have felt threatened

00:35:26.019 --> 00:35:29.119
as if by a firearm. If everybody can agree it

00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.119
looks like one, fine. It resembles a firearm,

00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.460
yeah. I would think that was a gun. I could see

00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:36.159
thinking that's a gun, especially in a heated

00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:38.179
situation. Number three is reasonable in the

00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:40.739
sense that if the threatening person is treating

00:35:40.739 --> 00:35:44.380
the object as a firearm, it's generally understandable

00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:48.159
to interpret that it is in fact a firearm. Number

00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:52.139
two feels to me like a caveat because, like it

00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:56.000
says, can be reasonably perceived as a firearm.

00:35:56.619 --> 00:35:59.619
Basically, you can just feel threatened, right?

00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:03.699
I perceived it as a firearm. They shouldn't need

00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:05.820
number two if they have number one and three.

00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:09.460
So, like, for example, if Joe is holding a hot

00:36:09.460 --> 00:36:12.780
dog and there's an altercation with Frank, prosecution

00:36:12.780 --> 00:36:15.500
of Joe says that Frank thought the hot dog was

00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:18.630
a gun. thereby suggesting Frank's terroristic

00:36:18.630 --> 00:36:20.969
threatening should be elevated to the first degree.

00:36:21.469 --> 00:36:24.369
This argument does not fit, number one, because

00:36:24.369 --> 00:36:26.150
no jury is going to look at a hot dog and all

00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:28.449
agree that it looks like a gun. Number three

00:36:28.449 --> 00:36:31.690
doesn't fit because Joe was holding the hot dog

00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:36.150
as one holds a hot dog. But the prosecution says,

00:36:36.369 --> 00:36:38.969
in the heat of the moment, Frank reasonably perceived

00:36:38.969 --> 00:36:41.710
the hot dog as a firearm because Joe pointed

00:36:41.710 --> 00:36:44.510
it at Frank when emphasizing his scary words.

00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:46.699
then maybe the prosecution can make number two

00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:52.219
work, right? So I don't like number two. Fuck

00:36:52.219 --> 00:36:54.099
that. Fuck number two. Get rid of it. If a jury

00:36:54.099 --> 00:36:56.139
can't all agree that it looks like a gun and

00:36:56.139 --> 00:36:57.960
the person holding the thing isn't brandishing

00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.780
it as a gun, the term simulated firearm should

00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:03.619
be thrown out. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm open

00:37:03.619 --> 00:37:06.480
to somebody with legal background explaining

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:11.599
to me why that item needs to still be in the

00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.820
law. But as far as I can tell, it's just there

00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:17.539
to be abused. So get rid of it. Now, did Basin

00:37:17.539 --> 00:37:19.420
deserve to be charged with terroristic threat

00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:21.659
at the first degree? Well, if the claims about

00:37:21.659 --> 00:37:24.380
him saying he had a gun and brandishing a weapon,

00:37:24.500 --> 00:37:26.500
which is a knife, or threatening people with

00:37:26.500 --> 00:37:29.699
a knife, then yeah, probably. Probably terrorizing

00:37:29.699 --> 00:37:38.579
people and he did have a weapon. But I was totally

00:37:38.579 --> 00:37:40.579
on board with the charge, reading through the

00:37:40.579 --> 00:37:43.179
articles, comments. I was avoiding watching the

00:37:43.179 --> 00:37:45.440
beach fight, but after finally getting myself

00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.139
to watch this stupid video, I'm not so sure about

00:37:48.139 --> 00:37:50.860
the charge of a terroristic threat of the first

00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:52.900
degree. He was talking a lot of shit and got

00:37:52.900 --> 00:37:56.059
knocked out. All he had to do was walk away or

00:37:56.059 --> 00:37:58.260
even turn his music down, but instead he acted

00:37:58.260 --> 00:38:00.199
like a child until somebody was too fed up and

00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.440
came and just knocked him out. Now, the man who

00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:07.300
knocked Kirill Basin out is Kama Homan. He's

00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:10.039
a construction business owner. He claims to have

00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.179
mixed martial arts training. He approached the

00:38:13.179 --> 00:38:15.860
situation to begin to confront Basin. Basin,

00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:18.239
already irate, was ready to fight Homan, who

00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.099
is clearly a lot larger than him. Homan fronts

00:38:21.099 --> 00:38:23.679
on Basin, who is backing away, still ready to

00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:25.900
fight. When it becomes clear that he can't take

00:38:25.900 --> 00:38:28.539
Homan, and Homan was not about to back off, Basin

00:38:28.539 --> 00:38:32.000
grabs the beach chair, swings it at him. This

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.920
thing's pretty light, not much of a threat, but

00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.639
Homan sort of punches around the chair, hitting

00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.480
Basin in the chin, and Basin goes down easy.

00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.380
A lot of the headlines about this story really

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:42.940
irritated me, especially after watching the video.

00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.559
But these odd choice of words in these headlines

00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.480
were generally geared to get conservatives to

00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:53.159
click the articles. And usually targeting Basin

00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.119
because he was the one running as a Democrat.

00:38:56.219 --> 00:39:02.179
But the New York Post, they've been on an extra

00:39:02.179 --> 00:39:07.159
bad title streak lately. Before I get on to the

00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.539
New York Post's awful titling of Article Streak,

00:39:09.539 --> 00:39:11.300
I do want to mention that the reason why I don't,

00:39:11.300 --> 00:39:13.300
after seeing the video, why I'm not so sure about

00:39:13.300 --> 00:39:15.559
the first degree level for the terroristic threat

00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.360
charges, that I never saw a knife in his hand.

00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.300
And Holman, the guy who knocked him out, said

00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:24.039
that when he pulled the knife on me, that's when

00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.400
I knew things got serious. It's like, but he

00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.460
didn't, though. There was no knife. He didn't

00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:30.639
pull a knife on Holman. I mean, Basin probably

00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.940
deserved to get knocked out. But I didn't see

00:39:33.940 --> 00:39:36.500
a knife at any point. Maybe he thought the chair

00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:38.980
was a knife. You know, it could be reasonably

00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:41.019
perceived. I mean, in the heat of the moment,

00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:42.739
he was swinging that chair like a knife. So that's

00:39:42.739 --> 00:39:46.679
probably why he thought that. So he's brandishing

00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.039
it as a knife. He thought he was going to get

00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.260
stabbed. So dumb. He gets stabbed with a chair.

00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:53.980
That would hurt. Yeah, it sure would. Pretty

00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:57.559
blunt. But the New York Post, like I said, they've

00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.900
been on a bad title streak lately. And one example

00:40:00.900 --> 00:40:04.940
I can give is that the other day, at least one

00:40:04.940 --> 00:40:08.820
woman, I think it's up to two now, had been paralyzed

00:40:08.820 --> 00:40:11.880
because of a really bad mix -up in sterile compounds.

00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:15.340
Yeah. She was given an epidural with potassium

00:40:15.340 --> 00:40:17.880
chloride when she likely should have been receiving

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.619
something like an analgesic, like bupivacaine

00:40:20.619 --> 00:40:23.699
or something like that. Potassium chloride is

00:40:23.699 --> 00:40:26.539
exactly what it sounds like. It's an electrolyte

00:40:26.539 --> 00:40:29.719
molecule, sometimes given in cases of hypokalemia,

00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.860
low potassium. It's also one of the ingredients

00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:36.739
in cardioplegia bags, which are given to cardiac

00:40:36.739 --> 00:40:39.119
patients to temporarily stop the heart during

00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.039
open heart surgery. But it's very dangerous to

00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.800
the spine. Cardioplegia bags have a number of

00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.159
things in them, including potassium chloride.

00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.980
But potassium chloride is very dangerous to the

00:40:50.980 --> 00:40:53.880
spine. I won't go into the details because we'll

00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.440
probably end up having to do an episode on it.

00:40:56.460 --> 00:40:59.360
But the New York Post, with all its integrity,

00:40:59.619 --> 00:41:02.639
has decided to write in the headline that patients

00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.920
were given, quote, a lethal injection drug, which

00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:08.579
is a good way to describe potassium chloride

00:41:08.579 --> 00:41:11.099
if you don't ever want to be trusted again. Now,

00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.539
the reason why they call it a lethal injection

00:41:14.539 --> 00:41:17.500
drug is because in the cocktail that they use

00:41:17.500 --> 00:41:21.440
to kill inmates, potassium chloride's in there.

00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.019
There's a number of other things it's used for.

00:41:24.099 --> 00:41:26.539
It's so fucking dumb. It's a dumb... They've

00:41:26.539 --> 00:41:29.280
been real bad about article titles lately. They're

00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:34.059
not wrong. It is in there. See, don't encourage

00:41:34.059 --> 00:41:37.340
them. Don't encourage their stupid stupidity.

00:41:38.099 --> 00:41:41.019
But the title, the headline for the beach fight,

00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.360
the dipshit politician's beach fight, it reads,

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.340
Fighter who knocked out Dem Congress hopeful

00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:52.119
reveals what really sparked brawl. Anti -white

00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.179
slur emerges. Okay, so the suggestion is that

00:41:58.179 --> 00:42:01.900
an anti -white slur led to the fight, but the

00:42:01.900 --> 00:42:04.980
first line of the article reads, quote, the fighter

00:42:04.980 --> 00:42:07.920
who knocked out a Hawaii Democrat has revealed

00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.659
that the brawl was caused by the wannabe politician

00:42:10.659 --> 00:42:13.860
pulling out a knife and claimed he had a gun.

00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:18.119
I'm going to point out every idiotic thing about

00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.159
the headline and opening line of this article.

00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.980
One, anti -white slur was clearly in the headline

00:42:22.980 --> 00:42:25.400
to suggest that the cause of the fight was an

00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.739
anti -white slur when the opening line directly

00:42:27.739 --> 00:42:30.920
contradicts that. Two, the sentence calls the

00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.300
construction worker who punched him, quote, the

00:42:33.300 --> 00:42:35.340
fighter because he said in an interview that

00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:39.239
he studied some MMA. That can mean anything.

00:42:40.059 --> 00:42:44.170
Three, the headline calls Basin dem. Congress

00:42:44.170 --> 00:42:46.570
hopeful, which is inaccurate since there was

00:42:46.570 --> 00:42:50.730
no hope for Basin. And the opening line calls

00:42:50.730 --> 00:42:53.409
him a wannabe politician, which is far more accurate.

00:42:53.690 --> 00:42:55.690
The headlines should have said that. All the

00:42:55.690 --> 00:42:59.550
headlines should read that. And four, part of

00:42:59.550 --> 00:43:02.710
the opening line reads, quote, bra was caused

00:43:02.710 --> 00:43:04.969
by the wannabe politician pulling out a knife

00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:08.469
and claimed he had a gun. Okay, so there's mixed

00:43:08.469 --> 00:43:10.309
tenses here, which makes this sentence confusing.

00:43:11.050 --> 00:43:13.730
If you read the entire thing, it's hard to tell

00:43:13.730 --> 00:43:16.510
if it's Basin who claimed he had a gun or if

00:43:16.510 --> 00:43:20.989
Holman claimed Basin had a gun. Yeah. So it's

00:43:20.989 --> 00:43:22.969
hard to figure out, like, what are they trying

00:43:22.969 --> 00:43:26.389
to say here? It's poorly worded. Now, further

00:43:26.389 --> 00:43:28.750
reading about the stupid event indicates that

00:43:28.750 --> 00:43:32.869
Basin suggested he had a gun in his bag. And

00:43:32.869 --> 00:43:34.730
this isn't the first time that a potential firearm

00:43:34.730 --> 00:43:37.110
in Basin's bag has been a factor in a situation

00:43:37.110 --> 00:43:43.010
in which he found himself. I'm going to get to

00:43:43.010 --> 00:43:44.829
that, but the way I'm going to get to it is by

00:43:44.829 --> 00:43:47.829
going over something that I couldn't stop doing.

00:43:48.010 --> 00:43:50.010
I was reading through this and I kept reading

00:43:50.010 --> 00:43:51.510
through his social media and all this stuff,

00:43:51.590 --> 00:43:56.989
this crazy shit. He has like a million words

00:43:56.989 --> 00:44:00.110
posted online. It's just he never stops. That's

00:44:00.110 --> 00:44:02.130
why I called him the comment section representative

00:44:02.130 --> 00:44:07.110
because that's what he is. Now, I kept finding

00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:11.239
myself trying to psychoanalyze him. And as some

00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:13.559
people know, I often criticize others for trying

00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.400
to diagnose people through the TV or whatever

00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.460
with whatever the hell. And that's because diagnoses

00:44:19.460 --> 00:44:22.079
require more than just noticing some signs or

00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:26.739
symptoms that you know. That made me realize

00:44:26.739 --> 00:44:29.880
like you like. So the fact I couldn't stop trying

00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.320
to psychoanalyze them, I needed a reminder of

00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.059
of what I knew in college that. that you can't

00:44:36.059 --> 00:44:38.139
psychoanalyze somebody through the TV, right?

00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:41.940
We did do a project. We were trying to diagnose

00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:44.940
a personality disorder of a celebrity. And that

00:44:44.940 --> 00:44:46.699
was just a practice of looking for signs and

00:44:46.699 --> 00:44:48.900
symptoms. You can't, it has no clinical meaning.

00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.099
In order to try to get this out of my head, I

00:44:52.099 --> 00:44:53.659
actually went to the library and pulled out the

00:44:53.659 --> 00:44:55.920
DSM -5. Not metaphorically, I actually physically

00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.960
went and did that. The DSM is the diagnostic

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.690
manual. to the human mind, and I challenged myself

00:45:01.690 --> 00:45:03.750
to become convinced that I know exactly what

00:45:03.750 --> 00:45:05.769
mental illness Basin has because I knew I wouldn't

00:45:05.769 --> 00:45:08.090
be able to do it. Psychoanalyzing someone with

00:45:08.090 --> 00:45:10.590
whom you cannot interact fundamentally has no

00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:12.489
clinical significance, and it didn't take me

00:45:12.489 --> 00:45:16.869
long to revive that recognition in my mind, the

00:45:16.869 --> 00:45:19.829
limitations of trying to do that. Well, a more

00:45:19.829 --> 00:45:23.130
common interpretation of behaviors like Basin's

00:45:23.130 --> 00:45:25.469
would be something broadly familiar. So I decided

00:45:25.469 --> 00:45:28.230
to start with what it seems like the most likely.

00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.400
mental issue he has and go from there. And so

00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.699
while more common interpretation of behaviors

00:45:34.699 --> 00:45:36.920
like Basin's would be something broadly familiar

00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.880
like bipolar disorder, I thought oppositional

00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:43.159
defiant disorder seemed more fitting for Basin.

00:45:43.260 --> 00:45:46.380
So I started there in the DSM. Even though ODD

00:45:46.380 --> 00:45:48.699
is usually diagnosed during childhood or adolescence,

00:45:48.699 --> 00:45:51.219
symptoms do persist into or can persist into

00:45:51.219 --> 00:45:54.739
an adulthood. And Basin's most prominent symptoms

00:45:55.500 --> 00:45:58.039
That have had a significant and negative impact

00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.500
on his life recently are classic ODD behaviors.

00:46:02.099 --> 00:46:05.679
And more importantly, an ODD analysis gives me

00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:07.519
a simple framework to move this script forward.

00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.380
So first, this isn't one of the diagnostic criteria,

00:46:13.539 --> 00:46:20.079
but people with ODD may often defy reasonable

00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.820
requests or rules. You know, especially from

00:46:23.820 --> 00:46:26.019
authority figures, but sometimes just at all.

00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:28.139
You ask them to do anything, they're going to

00:46:28.139 --> 00:46:29.920
want to do the opposite, right? Right, okay.

00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:33.480
And as I go over these, I want everybody to understand,

00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:37.820
before saying I have ODD, okay, before somebody

00:46:37.820 --> 00:46:39.480
accuses me of that, I want to say that there

00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.119
is just a little bit of crossover with ADHD,

00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.380
okay? Just a little bit. In fact, that's one

00:46:45.380 --> 00:46:48.280
of the differential diagnoses you need to eliminate.

00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:52.030
If you're going to diagnose somebody with ODD,

00:46:52.110 --> 00:47:02.289
but, um, so, uh, basically refusing. One of the

00:47:02.289 --> 00:47:04.789
things is refusing a reasonable request, you

00:47:04.789 --> 00:47:06.809
know, like maybe turning your music down at the

00:47:06.809 --> 00:47:12.650
beach. Like, I mean, um, the, um, allegedly he

00:47:12.650 --> 00:47:14.889
had refused to turn his music down, which led

00:47:14.889 --> 00:47:19.150
to the, uh, altercation. Um, Now, he received

00:47:19.150 --> 00:47:23.309
a restraining order from the beach. This disallowed

00:47:23.309 --> 00:47:26.969
him from returning. And he posted on his Facebook

00:47:26.969 --> 00:47:30.110
that he was going back there and commented on

00:47:30.110 --> 00:47:32.469
his own post that a temporary restraining order

00:47:32.469 --> 00:47:34.929
is just a piece of paper and that he's a law

00:47:34.929 --> 00:47:41.530
amongst himself. Yeah, I'd say that seems like

00:47:41.530 --> 00:47:44.730
pretty defiant behavior. So I decided to look

00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:46.829
into the symptoms. An ODD diagnosis requires

00:47:46.829 --> 00:47:49.219
at least... Four of the eight primary symptoms.

00:47:50.059 --> 00:47:54.059
People with ODD tend to be touchy and easily

00:47:54.059 --> 00:47:56.280
annoyed. And there was no hesitation between

00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:59.940
Basin shaking hands with the man with whom he

00:47:59.940 --> 00:48:02.639
was arguing and then immediately arguing with

00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:04.739
his wife because she made a comment about him

00:48:04.739 --> 00:48:07.840
or whatever. When the man got on to him for yelling

00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.019
at his wife, Basin was immediately engaged in

00:48:10.019 --> 00:48:12.420
the argument all over again. He was immediately

00:48:12.420 --> 00:48:16.460
heated again. People with ODD also tend to be

00:48:16.460 --> 00:48:19.639
vindictive. And in order to fit the criteria,

00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.760
it has to have happened at least twice in six

00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:27.679
months. August 2nd was Basin's second charge

00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:33.699
of terroristic threat since May. All right. Yeah,

00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:37.900
he's on a good track there. But looking through

00:48:37.900 --> 00:48:40.260
a long history of Basin's life online, it seemed

00:48:40.260 --> 00:48:42.639
at first that his outrageous behavior is a recent

00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:46.699
thing. which Basin claims is because he is being

00:48:46.699 --> 00:48:48.860
targeted essentially for his activism and his

00:48:48.860 --> 00:48:51.000
desire to do something about corruption and abuse

00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.940
of authority. Now, his previous terroristic threat

00:48:54.940 --> 00:48:57.340
charge gets brought up a lot in the news articles

00:48:57.340 --> 00:49:00.000
because it's relevant to show a history of this

00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.199
kind of behavior. But I came across a charge

00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.579
against Basin of terroristic threat of the third

00:49:06.579 --> 00:49:12.340
degree in New Jersey from 2007. And I have to

00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:14.480
read this to you, okay? Okay. This is wonderful.

00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.619
It's awful. It's awful. I mean, it's terrible.

00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:21.579
Good for the show, though. It's one of these

00:49:21.579 --> 00:49:24.239
things that I just get tickled when I find this

00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:31.300
kind of thing. So this is a quote from a document

00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:35.679
covering Basin's 2007 arrest, okay? The voicemail,

00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.639
Kirill identified himself and left his phone

00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.460
number. During the voicemail, Kirill stated several

00:49:42.460 --> 00:50:08.440
threatening statements. He stated, quote, I'll

00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.699
see you another night. Maybe no one will ever

00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:13.940
see you again. Maybe not in one piece. Someone

00:50:13.940 --> 00:50:16.940
will find you in five pieces somewhere in the

00:50:16.940 --> 00:50:21.219
county that used to be blank. The kid that didn't

00:50:21.219 --> 00:50:26.019
want to meet up with Kirill that night. So think

00:50:26.019 --> 00:50:31.940
about it. Okay. Literally threatening what sounds

00:50:31.940 --> 00:50:35.219
like to cut a person to pieces and hide the pieces

00:50:35.219 --> 00:50:38.940
all over the county. Yeah. Sounds like a friendly

00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:41.139
guy. That's disturbing behavior. A little bit.

00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:49.300
That's not cool. Yeah. I'd say that's a sign

00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:54.880
of vindictiveness. To say the least, yeah. Yeah.

00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.019
Another sign of ODD. It's no surprise that the

00:50:59.019 --> 00:51:02.019
oppositional divine disorder often includes being

00:51:02.019 --> 00:51:05.039
argumentative with authority figures. Basin has

00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.760
had at least two recent conflicts with the police

00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.340
throughout, which he has been notably defiant.

00:51:10.940 --> 00:51:13.239
Basin has sued police departments in the past,

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.800
and his most recent conflict with the Maui police

00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.300
has been tumultuous as well, which led to Basin

00:51:19.300 --> 00:51:25.719
serving a lawsuit to the county, which didn't

00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.659
end in a good look for Basin. So I want to read

00:51:28.659 --> 00:51:32.420
this petitioner declaration from the Maui County

00:51:32.420 --> 00:51:36.000
Council member. Thomas Cook. That's a councilman

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.139
I mentioned before who may actually care who

00:51:39.139 --> 00:51:43.199
this dude is. It's basically justification for

00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:47.900
a restraining order against Basin. This is a

00:51:47.900 --> 00:51:51.039
statement from Thomas Cook. At approximately

00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.920
9 .30 on the morning of 5 .29 .26, I stepped

00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:58.139
into the hall to go back to my car for a 10 a

00:51:58.139 --> 00:52:02.409
.m. appointment. One of our plans... One of our

00:52:02.409 --> 00:52:05.090
plans review people, Jessica, was in the hall

00:52:05.090 --> 00:52:07.789
by our office front door and a man in a black

00:52:07.789 --> 00:52:09.849
motorcycle helmet threw papers at her feet and

00:52:09.849 --> 00:52:12.889
told her she was being served. I later learned

00:52:12.889 --> 00:52:14.929
that the individual's name was Kirill Basin.

00:52:15.809 --> 00:52:19.010
I asked him what he was doing and he said he

00:52:19.010 --> 00:52:22.809
was serving the county as in serving the county,

00:52:22.869 --> 00:52:25.369
you know, county getting served. Not that he

00:52:25.369 --> 00:52:28.469
was working for the county. I stepped in his

00:52:28.469 --> 00:52:30.869
direction to take his focus off Jessica and onto

00:52:30.869 --> 00:52:34.400
me. He stepped to his backpack, and there was

00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.380
on the ground in front of the OED, which was

00:52:37.380 --> 00:52:41.739
unzipped, and he showed me an unholstered green

00:52:41.739 --> 00:52:46.019
and brown slash tan gun in his bag. He lifted

00:52:46.019 --> 00:52:48.639
it from his bag so I could see it, but did not

00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.280
point it at me. I asked him if that was a gun

00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.980
and if it was a real gun. I felt very uneasy,

00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:56.619
like he was threatening me with it. I do not

00:52:56.619 --> 00:53:02.039
clearly remember the... verbal back and forth,

00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.480
but I did ask him why he was brandishing a weapon

00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.679
to me, and he stated that it was legal. Didn't

00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.119
answer the question, but I felt threatened and

00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.239
concerned for my safety and those in the office.

00:53:15.460 --> 00:53:18.539
He was very agitated. As he walked to the elevator,

00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:20.960
I took out my county phone to record the rest

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.780
of the interaction. He told me, quote, he didn't

00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:27.639
want to use the gun on me. I perceived these

00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.320
as verbal threats. The interaction with Kirill

00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.059
Basin made me feel threatened and concerned for

00:53:32.059 --> 00:53:33.840
my safety and for the safety of my coworkers

00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:38.019
that were there in the hallway as well. Not a

00:53:38.019 --> 00:53:41.460
good look. No, not really. Serving papers to

00:53:41.460 --> 00:53:43.639
somebody and that's how your interaction ends.

00:53:44.179 --> 00:53:45.960
It's not a good look. Not a good look for Basin.

00:53:45.980 --> 00:53:48.219
Now, the gun, the gun that he asked if it was

00:53:48.219 --> 00:53:52.139
real. So I knew what gun that was because there

00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:54.599
was a post he had made some posts about firing,

00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.519
you know, practicing firing gun. He was like.

00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:00.300
getting his he was working on his aim right sure

00:54:00.300 --> 00:54:03.800
because he's gonna in case he needs to shoot

00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.699
people i guess i mean it was it was very kind

00:54:06.699 --> 00:54:09.739
of an unhinged thing well this gun the one that

00:54:09.739 --> 00:54:16.340
that's in his bag it's a pellet gun which is

00:54:16.340 --> 00:54:19.699
what makes it legal yeah probably not gonna kill

00:54:19.699 --> 00:54:22.079
anybody with it he has said in the past too that

00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:23.960
you know it's a pellet gun so it's legal for

00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:27.480
me to own yeah Which makes me wonder, is he legally

00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.059
not allowed to own a firearm? I don't know. I

00:54:31.059 --> 00:54:32.739
mean, it kind of takes a lot to not be allowed

00:54:32.739 --> 00:54:35.780
one of those in the U .S. Yeah, I mean, what,

00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:37.900
major felony or something like that? Yeah, or,

00:54:38.019 --> 00:54:40.260
I mean, you know, threats of suicide, too, is

00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:43.460
one reason, yeah. But even that, it's like, I

00:54:43.460 --> 00:54:45.239
think it's like a two -year or five -year ban.

00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.519
Yeah, they'll probably get over it in a couple

00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:56.059
years. Yeah, yeah. My God. Anyway. Got a restraining

00:54:56.059 --> 00:55:01.360
order for that. Now, according to a narrative

00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.760
statement released by Basin, this is the reason

00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:09.179
why he was serving the county on May 2nd. So

00:55:09.179 --> 00:55:12.719
he put out a statement as to why this is like

00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:15.440
a narrative statement is sort of like a declaration

00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.099
that all this stuff is true. And he wants to

00:55:18.099 --> 00:55:22.239
submit this to legal record. And so according

00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:26.110
to Basin. On May 2nd, after the beach altercation,

00:55:26.389 --> 00:55:29.730
Kirill was asked by an officer to return to his

00:55:29.730 --> 00:55:32.829
room. He refused to do so, claiming that, quote,

00:55:32.989 --> 00:55:36.349
no law had been broken. The officer then arrested

00:55:36.349 --> 00:55:40.590
Basin, and he was going to be taken to the Maui

00:55:40.590 --> 00:55:44.690
Memorial Medical Center for evaluation. And that's

00:55:44.690 --> 00:55:47.469
the first thing that caught my attention, considering

00:55:47.469 --> 00:55:50.750
his mental health. I was like, hmm, if that's

00:55:50.750 --> 00:55:53.590
the first place they wanted to take you. what

00:55:53.590 --> 00:55:56.130
were you acting like? Yeah, it couldn't have

00:55:56.130 --> 00:56:03.650
been good. Especially the Maui police, they can't

00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:06.809
wait to prosecute somebody that pisses them off.

00:56:07.590 --> 00:56:12.010
And they're not always on the up and up about

00:56:12.010 --> 00:56:13.530
it. So the fact that they wanted to take him,

00:56:13.590 --> 00:56:14.829
that was the first place they wanted to take

00:56:14.829 --> 00:56:17.110
him, was the hospital. I think that says something

00:56:17.110 --> 00:56:24.699
about Kirill's behavior. And he ended up being

00:56:24.699 --> 00:56:27.239
taken to the police station, the police station

00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.719
in Wailuku, which is the that's where the the

00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:34.320
Maui police are headquartered is in Wailuku.

00:56:34.460 --> 00:56:37.539
And that's where their police station is. And

00:56:37.539 --> 00:56:42.639
so according to Basin, he repeatedly asked for

00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.579
his phone call to which the officers responded

00:56:45.579 --> 00:56:49.159
that they were busy. According to Basin, the

00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.210
officers didn't appear to be busy. So, Basin

00:56:52.210 --> 00:56:54.949
hung two blankets up over pipes in his cell to

00:56:54.949 --> 00:56:57.849
cover security cameras, which he said got the

00:56:57.849 --> 00:57:00.150
officer's attention. According to Basin, they

00:57:00.150 --> 00:57:02.349
came into his cell and beat him while yelling,

00:57:02.409 --> 00:57:05.849
stop resisting, which Basin claims was so that

00:57:05.849 --> 00:57:07.530
the cameras, which could not see the conduct,

00:57:07.690 --> 00:57:11.030
would pick up the audio. And this is where I

00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:13.530
want to stop psychoanalyzing Basin. Not because

00:57:13.530 --> 00:57:15.230
I don't think he's nuts. I do think he's nuts.

00:57:15.690 --> 00:57:18.550
I've read enough into his past that there's something...

00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.900
And I shouldn't say nuts. It's an incentive way

00:57:21.900 --> 00:57:25.559
to address mental health issues. But not that

00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:28.039
I don't think that there's some kind of mental

00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:31.079
health crisis going on with them. There definitely

00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:37.920
is. Because it didn't take me long with the DSM

00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.500
to remember how solidly impossible it is to effectively

00:57:40.500 --> 00:57:43.039
psychoanalyze somebody through the media. But

00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:47.840
also, while... Basin was exhibiting some defiance.

00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.019
He also claims that he was tortured for hours

00:57:50.019 --> 00:57:53.780
by the police. I would have to imagine that the

00:57:53.780 --> 00:57:57.940
initial reaction from most people when a guy

00:57:57.940 --> 00:58:01.079
like Kirill Basin claims to have been tortured

00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.599
by the police is to think that Basin is full

00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:07.039
of shit. But among the hold requests on relevant

00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.940
materials and Basin's verified complaint against

00:58:09.940 --> 00:58:13.360
the county of Maui, it reads that, among other

00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.980
things, there must be preserved and provided,

00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:19.460
and I'm going to quote here, any prior complaints,

00:58:19.820 --> 00:58:22.619
incidents, or claims involving conduct similar

00:58:22.619 --> 00:58:26.800
to that alleged in the forthcoming verified complaint,

00:58:27.099 --> 00:58:29.880
whether or not formally reduced in writing for

00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:33.800
the period of January 1st, 2023 through the present.

00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.699
That's very specific. So the Maui Police Department

00:58:37.699 --> 00:58:45.670
has had a lot of serious issues. Recently, well,

00:58:45.849 --> 00:58:53.590
back in 2021, a police officer was charged and

00:58:53.590 --> 00:58:59.429
he pled guilty to using police stops and information

00:58:59.429 --> 00:59:05.730
from those police stops to sexually pursue some

00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:09.170
of the women who were stopped. That's not good.

00:59:09.409 --> 00:59:12.769
Yeah. He was calling them. I listened to some

00:59:12.769 --> 00:59:14.820
of the... the voicemail or some of the recorded

00:59:14.820 --> 00:59:17.360
calls. Cause these girls had the wherewithal

00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:21.039
to record what was being said to them. And it

00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:25.900
was, it was unpleasant. He was trying to get

00:59:25.900 --> 00:59:28.599
laid by people who got stopped by the police.

00:59:28.940 --> 00:59:32.159
And it was the person like, you don't pursue

00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:34.400
something like that. No, that's so weird. That

00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.889
is, that is very disturbing behavior. Um, another,

00:59:39.090 --> 00:59:41.769
uh, this is a quote from, uh, the justice department

00:59:41.769 --> 00:59:44.170
that investigated the Maui police department,

00:59:44.389 --> 00:59:49.230
uh, for another incident. Um, quote, a former

00:59:49.230 --> 00:59:51.570
Maui police department officer pleaded guilty

00:59:51.570 --> 00:59:55.989
on Friday to one count of using unreasonable

00:59:55.989 --> 00:59:59.030
force against an arrestee. According to the plea

00:59:59.030 --> 01:00:02.929
agreement on January 6th, 2024, Carlos Freights

01:00:02.929 --> 01:00:06.820
or Frate, I'm not sure. Um, probably Frate. Forty

01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:10.820
repeatedly tased an arrestee, even though the

01:00:10.820 --> 01:00:13.320
arrestee was not resisting or posed any threat.

01:00:13.500 --> 01:00:18.039
Frate admitted that he knew that his force was

01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:21.260
unjustified, but nonetheless continued to tase

01:00:21.260 --> 01:00:23.440
the arrestee despite the arrestee's pleads for

01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:29.150
him to stop. Okay. Yeah, the Maui Police Department's

01:00:29.150 --> 01:00:31.409
not to be trusted. Doesn't sound like it, no.

01:00:31.710 --> 01:00:36.150
It sounds awful. There is just a history of bad

01:00:36.150 --> 01:00:40.130
conduct among the officers, among their officers.

01:00:40.329 --> 01:00:47.590
And there was another where a rookie and another

01:00:47.590 --> 01:00:49.650
guy for the police department got called out

01:00:49.650 --> 01:00:53.239
for... Um, to investigate a motorcycle had reportedly

01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.460
gotten backed into in a parking lot. Um, but

01:00:56.460 --> 01:01:00.000
there was nobody around who to be prosecuted

01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.059
for the, um, for the thing. And so they found

01:01:03.059 --> 01:01:07.480
in the, uh, footage to security footage that

01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.880
it was actually one of the leadership of the

01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.980
police department that backed into it and then

01:01:12.980 --> 01:01:15.639
just drove away. Wow. Hit and run from the police.

01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:20.139
Yeah. And so after that was, uh, After that footage

01:01:20.139 --> 01:01:25.460
was released, the police went after the cop that

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:29.280
released it, kidnapped him, took him into custody,

01:01:29.420 --> 01:01:32.719
and interrogated him. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's

01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:34.719
fucked up. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's fucked

01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.519
up. So, like, this is one of the things, like,

01:01:37.539 --> 01:01:39.300
police corruption is something that should definitely

01:01:39.300 --> 01:01:41.900
be addressed, right? Yeah. Not by Creel Basin,

01:01:41.940 --> 01:01:45.480
though. Like, I don't want... Because, like,

01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:49.050
people, unfortunately, they don't... they don't

01:01:49.050 --> 01:01:51.829
teach like logic and reasoning in schools in

01:01:51.829 --> 01:01:54.730
the U S they really should. But when people see,

01:01:54.889 --> 01:01:59.610
Oh, crazy bat shit, Kirill Basin is accusing

01:01:59.610 --> 01:02:02.090
the police department of torturing him. The police

01:02:02.090 --> 01:02:05.070
department must be a solid. entity because he's

01:02:05.070 --> 01:02:07.429
a crazy person when really those things don't

01:02:07.429 --> 01:02:09.230
eliminate each other now when you just when you

01:02:09.230 --> 01:02:11.210
explain it outright like that it sounds really

01:02:11.210 --> 01:02:15.050
obvious but in fun like in terms of of uh social

01:02:15.050 --> 01:02:17.949
functionality people don't put that much thought

01:02:17.949 --> 01:02:19.989
into things and so they're gonna think can you

01:02:19.989 --> 01:02:22.889
believe he's accusing the the maui police like

01:02:22.889 --> 01:02:25.329
can you believe he's accusing them you know people

01:02:25.329 --> 01:02:27.170
who aren't familiar with how shitty their police

01:02:27.170 --> 01:02:30.530
department is um like They're going to be like,

01:02:30.610 --> 01:02:34.829
it's just a crazy guy. I know that accusations

01:02:34.829 --> 01:02:36.809
against the police department is bullshit because

01:02:36.809 --> 01:02:39.710
of this Cairo Basin guy this one time. Not him.

01:02:39.809 --> 01:02:41.969
I don't want him. These are things that need

01:02:41.969 --> 01:02:43.789
to be addressed, and they're very serious, and

01:02:43.789 --> 01:02:47.050
I don't want it to be him because he's nuts.

01:02:48.489 --> 01:02:52.010
Anyway, that's comment section representative

01:02:52.010 --> 01:02:57.110
Cairo Basin. He lost his primary election by

01:02:57.110 --> 01:03:00.400
a lot. He was last place. He couldn't even get

01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:03.780
half the votes of the second or third place person.

01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:07.039
They each had double of his votes, and neither

01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.440
of them broke 3 % in the thing. That's pretty

01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.820
bad. Yeah, yeah. He's nobody. He's fucking nobody.

01:03:14.059 --> 01:03:16.219
But these right -wing people, they are trying

01:03:16.219 --> 01:03:17.960
so hard to keep this alive and trying to ride

01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:20.519
this little wave because they have nothing. They

01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:22.420
have so little to ride on. And the thing is,

01:03:22.500 --> 01:03:25.519
the Democratic Party sucks. They're weak. They're

01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:28.340
pathetic. they like keep trying to be this middle

01:03:28.340 --> 01:03:31.599
of the aisle kind of thing. And they're, they're

01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:33.340
falling for all the bait from the right wing

01:03:33.340 --> 01:03:35.599
politicians. Like they suck. There's so much

01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:38.960
to be, to make fun of them for, but like, they're

01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.079
not the embarrassment that the right wing has

01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.699
been lately. Right. And so the fact that people

01:03:43.699 --> 01:03:46.639
need to ride this wave on Kirill fucking basin,

01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:50.630
like. It just it's they're telling on themselves,

01:03:50.829 --> 01:03:53.789
you know. Yeah. But the story ended up being

01:03:53.789 --> 01:03:56.110
kind of complicated and interesting to look at

01:03:56.110 --> 01:04:00.110
the history and everything. And did the police

01:04:00.110 --> 01:04:03.050
torture him? I don't know. I believe it as a

01:04:03.050 --> 01:04:06.130
possibility. But because he's fucking nuts, like

01:04:06.130 --> 01:04:09.710
it's hard to say, you know, who's at fault there.

01:04:09.789 --> 01:04:12.369
Like who did the bad thing? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

01:04:12.369 --> 01:04:14.090
it could be both could be. I mean, they're both

01:04:14.090 --> 01:04:16.320
there. could both be full of shit, you know?

01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.599
And that's always a possibility. Maybe they're

01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:22.320
all crazy. Yeah. It's just, it's, I don't know.

01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:24.539
Like the police department, they don't have a

01:04:24.539 --> 01:04:25.900
good history. He doesn't have a good history.

01:04:26.500 --> 01:04:29.320
I, you know, I doubt that the department was

01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.960
reformed before he got arrested. And I, you know,

01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:38.079
he has, he has shown a history of, one of the

01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:40.400
things that's sort of contradictory to an ODD.

01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.179
diagnosis which you don't don't diagnose people

01:04:43.179 --> 01:04:45.420
like one of the few of the things like you like

01:04:45.420 --> 01:04:47.960
one of the things that that's included in the

01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:50.900
dsm -5 that wasn't included in previous versions

01:04:50.900 --> 01:04:55.219
of it are like um a long -term mild cognitive

01:04:55.219 --> 01:04:59.619
disorders related to like substance abuse that

01:04:59.619 --> 01:05:01.719
even after you've quit you've had you know some

01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.719
lingering effect of of having been on drugs for

01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:07.599
a long time yeah um you know things like that

01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:12.139
And so you can't diagnose Kirill Basin through

01:05:12.139 --> 01:05:13.960
the TV, through his posts, anything, because

01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.179
you don't know what his toxicity is. You don't

01:05:16.179 --> 01:05:19.739
know what his mental health is at that time.

01:05:19.820 --> 01:05:23.659
And he also claims to have PTSD or some other

01:05:23.659 --> 01:05:28.119
types of trauma as well. So these are differential

01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.480
diagnoses you need to be able to eliminate. And

01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.059
this is why you need a clinical setting. You

01:05:32.059 --> 01:05:33.780
need to know all the details and you need to

01:05:33.780 --> 01:05:37.300
be able to analyze in person. You can't do that.

01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.380
I need that reminder. And I knew, I knew better,

01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:41.219
but I kept going back to try to like, oh, he

01:05:41.219 --> 01:05:42.360
probably has this. Oh, he probably has that.

01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:43.760
I'm like, we're going to the library. We're going

01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.000
to sit there. That's all I'm going to look at

01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.440
is the diagnostic manual and that's it. And,

01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.400
and I'll, I'll remember why this is impossible.

01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:56.840
But yeah, no, it's. What do you think? What do

01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:58.519
you think of this guy and the whole situation?

01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.599
I say don't go to Hawaii. Stay away from Maui,

01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.260
at least. Yeah, that one island specifically.

01:06:05.539 --> 01:06:07.420
Yeah, yeah. It didn't seem like a good place.

01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:10.920
It was a beautiful place, you know, just that's...

01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:16.199
Yeah. Well, yeah, and, you know, the whole, the

01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:20.880
white, the slur for white people thing, it was

01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.920
Howie called him Howie. So the guy who knocked

01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:28.860
Basin out called him Holly Boy. And after he

01:06:28.860 --> 01:06:30.960
woke up, he said something along the lines of

01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:32.239
like, you're still going to try to fight Holly

01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.679
Boy or something like that. It had nothing to

01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.059
do with the initial altercation. He had already

01:06:38.059 --> 01:06:41.400
been knocked out. That was a stupid article.

01:06:41.780 --> 01:06:44.340
Yeah, I've never heard that slur before. Holly,

01:06:44.500 --> 01:06:47.500
generally it's a pejorative for white people,

01:06:47.619 --> 01:06:50.380
mainly for white people. Sometimes it's used

01:06:50.380 --> 01:06:55.610
more broad for outsiders. Um, the, the context

01:06:55.610 --> 01:06:58.489
in context, it could be used in a neutral way.

01:06:58.670 --> 01:07:02.050
Um, but a lot of times it is used, uh, insultingly

01:07:02.050 --> 01:07:04.610
and it's because white people invaded their Island,

01:07:04.750 --> 01:07:08.090
you know? I mean, we do that. We do do that.

01:07:09.849 --> 01:07:11.730
And before anybody says anything, Middle East

01:07:11.730 --> 01:07:16.750
counts as white, apparently. I saw it. work application

01:07:16.750 --> 01:07:19.650
a long time ago. Oh, okay. It said, like, how

01:07:19.650 --> 01:07:21.869
do you identify? And I was, like, looking through,

01:07:21.989 --> 01:07:24.110
and I was looking for Middle Eastern, and it

01:07:24.110 --> 01:07:25.630
had Middle Eastern, it had white, you know, and

01:07:25.630 --> 01:07:26.789
then there was a bunch of other stuff, and it

01:07:26.789 --> 01:07:29.309
said Middle Eastern in parentheses white. I'm

01:07:29.309 --> 01:07:31.929
like, okay, all right, well, I guess, yeah. White

01:07:31.929 --> 01:07:35.670
-ish. Yeah. Yeah, I'm white passing, so. But

01:07:35.670 --> 01:07:38.949
anyway, yeah. That was kind of off the subject.

01:07:39.090 --> 01:07:42.409
But, yeah, so holly boy, I'm calling that. Whatever.

01:07:42.650 --> 01:07:47.170
Like, I don't fucking care. Like we're essentially

01:07:47.170 --> 01:07:52.610
on their Island. Yeah. But yeah. Anyway, crazy

01:07:52.610 --> 01:07:57.650
fucking situation. Really nuts. I mean, no, there's

01:07:57.650 --> 01:08:00.150
no political implication. No, there's none. There's

01:08:00.150 --> 01:08:02.809
not even, there's no impact whatsoever. Uh, no

01:08:02.809 --> 01:08:04.929
matter how badly these right wing people need

01:08:04.929 --> 01:08:07.030
it to be. Some of the comments sections in the,

01:08:07.130 --> 01:08:09.869
like on the YouTube thing, on the YouTube channels

01:08:09.869 --> 01:08:12.699
and, and on the. uh facebook posts and stuff

01:08:12.699 --> 01:08:15.300
it's like i love laughing at democrats and the

01:08:15.300 --> 01:08:17.100
other like there's always a response of it's

01:08:17.100 --> 01:08:19.779
not that hard they all act like this it's like

01:08:19.779 --> 01:08:25.220
god you guys know they don't they're very non

01:08:25.220 --> 01:08:30.000
-confrontational which is a problem One of the

01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.979
problems of Democrats is that they seem to be

01:08:31.979 --> 01:08:35.340
afraid of conflict. That's not how politics works.

01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:40.199
Come on. Fight back. Yeah, pick up your fucking

01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.960
balls. Come on. At least Kirill Basin, I mean,

01:08:43.979 --> 01:08:46.960
he might suck at it, but at least he tried to

01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:51.880
fight all the wrong people. Anyway, thank you

01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:54.380
all so much for listening. Goodbye, everybody.

01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:55.199
Bye.