I asked my dentist for Spearmint, but I'm pretty
sure she gave me a new car. Hello, everybody.
Thank you all so much for listening to Memingless,
a deep dive podcast into the internet's incorrectitude.
I am your humble host, Nate, and should I invite
Bobbie? Too late. I'm in. Ah, Bobbie. Aloh-Bob.
Bob Beachside Resort. What? Oh, "Bobbiechside
Bobbie. side resort. Okay. I was wondering where
I was going with that. Yeah, I was a little curious.
By the time I finish these scripts, it's like
I'm so far removed from the puns that I don't
even remember what I was writing. Anyway, I have
a meme for you to look at and I would like you
to explain to our audience what it looks like
and how it reads. I'll do my best. It looks like
something out of Borderlands. Yeah, it does.
It's got a similar art style. I don't think I
played this one. Okay, I'm just trying to figure
out how to describe this. We got a bald guy.
It looks like they're all standing around on
a beach. Bald guy on a beach, and he's yelling
at a group of other people. And the bald guy's
got a, is that the Democratic donkey on his arm?
Yeah, yeah. He's got it tattooed on his upper
arm. And he's yelling, back off! It's a group
of three other people. Yeah, so this is a graphic
novel -style drawing of Kirill Basin. He's fighting
with beachgoers at Kawakapu Beach in Maui. I'm
not even going to try to say Maui right. I'm
just going to say it the way us mainlanders do.
But Basin is a 40 -year -old jackass with a history
of violently threatening behavior. And he got
knocked out by... a supposed MMAist, a guy who
studied MMA or whatever, after allegedly threatening
to shoot some dude's wife and brandishing a knife.
Basically, the fact that he was allegedly going
to shoot some people with a knife and is now
in jail is really all you need to know about
him. But the Internet has decided to keep drawing
us back to this event. And it's not because there's
a video. It's not just because there's a video
of Basin getting knocked out that went viral.
The motives for keeping this event alive will
be clear as we look into this meme. So we will
get back to this image. But just to get this
out of the way, I'll save you. The video is dumb
and boring. I'll kind of save you time on that.
I have the link here. I read so much and wrote.
I was writing and reading and I read so, so much
before I finally got myself to watch the dumb
video. Because I just don't like watching people
fight. It's annoying. So essentially what happens
in the video, he's fighting with some people.
They're already in an argument when the video
starts because that's why they're recording.
It's because he's in this heated argument with
a 61 -year -old guy. Uh -oh. And very shortly
after the video begins, they both decide that
the fight's over, they're done, and they're going
to move on with it, their lives. So they shake
hands, right? He and this dude, they shake hands,
say it's over. Okay. Well, the dude's wife keeps
saying shit to Basin. Basin, who seems very childish,
decides to keep arguing with this woman. There's
zero seconds between him shaking hands with this
dude. And arguing with the dude's wife. It is
so pathetic. It's like the most childish thing
ever. I would say that I think that Basin is
drunk in this interaction. But the thing is that
he has supposedly been sober for many years.
Something odd about his sobriety, though. So
he became an ambassador for this app called the
Lucid app. The Lucid app is a sobriety app that
helps connect sober people. to social events,
that kind of thing. They even have like a dating
app for sober people, that kind of stuff. It's
a neat concept and stuff. It sells itself as
like, you know, if somebody's looking for sobriety
in a group that's less religious, that's not
religious like AA is. It's like, well, in AA,
they emphasize again and again and again that
you don't, that it's not a religious program.
And a lot of people have seen the South Park
episode where they're like, oh, well, you have
to admit that there's a higher power than yourself,
but therefore that makes it a religious program.
It's like, no, no, literally, literally admitting
that there's a higher power than yourself in
AA. One of the things that God, because like
they use the word God a lot in it. It was written
a long time ago, a lot of the writings and stuff.
And some of them are from religious perspectives.
But if you're not a non -believer or a non -religious
person. The guy who came up with AA, if you're
a non -believer or whatever, he knew immediately
early on that they couldn't make it a Christian
organization because they're going to alienate
other people who want to be sober. Right. They
decided early on it's not a religious organization.
So one of the things that they recommend is like
one of the things that could be a higher power
than yourself is like a group of people. And
so AA itself can be your higher power or like
the group of friends or whatever. Makes sense.
And so G -O -D can stand for group of drunks
because they call themselves sober drunks. You
know, so they don't, they make it pretty clear
that it's not a religious organization. So the
fact that the Lucid app is selling itself as
a, you know, if you're looking for a non -religious
whatever, it's like they watch the South Park
episode and that's all they know about AA. It's
like, look into it. You know, it's, if it. If
you're somebody trying to get sober or whatever,
look into AA. But this Lucid app, I'm not saying
that there's anything wrong with it. If there
are different approaches to people getting sober,
whatever. But the fact that it sells it that
way is kind of irritating. Basin is connected
to this app to the extent that he was one of
their ambassadors when he lived in, I think it
was when he was in New Jersey. He used to live
in New Jersey a long time ago. He lives in Hawaii
now. He wasn't just visiting. for the fight.
He's connected to this app to the extent that
he was a quote unquote ambassador. Ambassadors
were people who got on early on during the founding
of this app, like before the launch parties and
stuff like that. And they were just people in
different communities where the primary owners
of Lucid were not at so that they could function
as people introducing to those areas because
it's a community type of network. You know, it's
meant to set up people meeting in person and
stuff. So he was an ambassador to that. So he's
supposedly sober, a sober person. Now, according
to Basin, sober seems to only mean sober from
alcohol. Okay. Which I don't think is sober.
I don't think so either. So, I mean, it's good
on him for not, you know, for giving up alcohol
or whatever. Yeah. But he switched to, you know,
cocaine. He shared this post a while back, years
ago. It was a clip of Carrie Fisher. Hey, your
humble host, Nate here. The clarification I would
like to make is that Kirill Basin's sobriety.
It may not just be from alcohol. Specifically,
Kirill Basin said that he would be sober from,
not alcohol, but from opiates. And that he would,
quote, stay away from the opiates and stay close
to psychedelics because of a royal decree from
Princess Leia. Prior to becoming sober, Kirill
Basin had posted a video on his YouTube channel,
a clip of him doing some stand -up comedy, if
you can call it that. There were no actual jokes
there, it seemed. It said that he did it at the
Laughing Buddha, and he posted this on October
28th, 2016. And the description that he put along
with it reads, When you take sedatives to counteract
your impending manic an hour before the show,
drink wine and vaporize tobacco and nothing else
through everyone else's sets, write no jokes
and go last, you begin to sympathize with Michael
Richards and his plight. Michael Richards is
the guy who played Kramer and during one of his
stand -ups got angry with a disruptive patron
who was black and called him the N -word in front
of everybody. Yeah, not the ideal situation you
want to empathize with. Talking about how doing
psychedelics is like, you know, you could be
sober from alcohol, but psychedelics are good
somehow. You know, I didn't watch the clip, but...
It's good for your brain. I mean, we know Carrie.
We know who Carrie Fisher was. She liked her
substances. And not that there's anything wrong
with that. People like their drugs and their
alcohol, whatever, as long as you can keep it
under control, whatever. But if you can't, find
sobriety. And Basin did, kind of. It sounds like
maybe he still does psychedelics. I don't know.
But his behavior was not. His behavior was unbecoming
of a sober person in the speech video where he
was just arguing with all these people. And this
guy comes up who's a lot bigger than Basin. Basin
is, oh, God, I think his height was like 5 '8
or something like that. He's a short guy. He
also is very thin, very small person. And this
other guy, he comes up and he works in construction.
He's a big guy, big Hawaiian guy. And he's finally
like, I've got to put an end to this because
this conflict is not stopping. And he approaches
the group, comes to basically put Basin in his
place. Basin gets irate with that guy, starts
arguing with him. When it becomes clear that
that guy is not going to back down, Basin starts
like kind of backing up but still trying to be,
you know, feisty. Right. And so he finally, he
realizes there's no way he's going to take this
big guy. So he takes this beach chair and tries
to swing it. And the guy kind of punches around
the chair and gets a basin in the, in the chin
and knocks him out. And he just goes flat to
the ground real fast. It didn't even look like
a hard hit, but sometimes when you get these,
these hits, the, what it, you know, it can, it
can still knock a person out, you know, without
hitting them. brain part of a head anyway basin
goes down easy um so the guy gets down he kind
of looks surprised at first that he knocked knocked
basin out but he gets down he starts like kind
of rubbing his chest saying wake up wake up you
know like waking him back making sure he didn't
accidentally kill the guy yeah you know so like
i mean he wakes he wakes the dude up and um He's
still feisty. You know, he still wants to fight,
but he knows he can't do anything. And he walks
away. And as he's walking away, he's like stumbling
a bit, you know, still like he's dazed. You could
tell he's pretty dazed. He's like a mile away
and he's still yelling at them. It's the dumbest
video. It's awful to watch. It's so idiotic.
And we're going to go over how this story keeps
getting traction and social and other media,
along with all the stupid ways that it's been
covered and misinterpreted. But we're going to
start with our springboard meme here. the the
one i showed you and um this gen this image probably
generated by ai was uh shared by pleasant moments
and fell on facebook looks like a pleasant moment
yeah sure i love a little aggression i love how
all these pages like clearly started with one
intention yeah and they found their clickbait
somewhere else you know But pleasant moments
shared this beach fight in which a guy gets knocked
out, yelling and swearing at each other. It seemed
like a real pleasant moment. It was pleasant
for everybody else. Yeah, it was on the ground.
When he was finally quiet, I'm sure that was
pleasant. Thank God he finally shut up. No, it's
not fun watching people get knocked out, no matter
how much they deserve it. I kind of enjoy it
sometimes. That guy was a prick. I mean, there
is a little bit of you that's going to be like,
yeah, that needed to happen. He was not going
to stop unless somebody stopped him. Did you
ever see that video about the guy that got knocked
out with a can of Arizona tea? No. Oh, my God.
That was a good one. That guy had it coming.
Jesus. I saw this video of this guy trying to
act really intimidating and yelling and flexing
all his muscles at once, trying to look real
strong. And to be intimidating, he took his head
and he hit it on the side of this car and then
was still trying to act intimidating. Well, the
dude who he was threatening saw his opportunity.
and clocked him and he went down flat he's like
that dude just gave me an assist i'm putting
him down so essentially he's like the he's like
the on the brink of being dropped already i can
drop him now and be done with this. He took that
opportunity to lay the guy out. I misspoke a
second ago. It wasn't Arizona tea. It was twisted
tea. Oh, well, see, that makes more sense. Did
you see that one? No. Oh, well, I've seen that
one. Oh, that one, yeah, of course. Well, now
I know what kind of tea it is. It was a yellow
can. See, the twisted tea is the public fight
tea. Oh, is that? Okay. The Arizona tea is a
bunch of dorks on a road trip tea. That's what
that is. And I know because I used to be one
of those. Until I realized that drinking those
giant teas, I'd have like three of them. And
we'd have to stop so many times to use them.
Yeah, that's a terrible thing for a road trip.
It was awful. But, you know, it took me a long
time to learn my lesson. But, so Pleasant Moments
shared this image. And the comment section is
sad, believe it or not. So the people like the...
Every time I get on Facebook and I read the comments,
I get a little bummed out that there is either
all robots talking to each other on there or
there really is a disconnected collection of
humans who all talk kind of past each other with
no like compatibility between them or or any.
capacity to think critically you know it's just
this very odd there's something vague and unsettling
about the level of intellect in the facebook
comment section especially on a post like this
one of the more irritating things about this
post um this meme is that the person who prompted
this image insisted on the screaming dude having
a democratic democrat donkey tattooed on him
The tattoo, the donkey tattoo is indicative of
what the motive is with the picture like this,
with a meme like this. People get knocked unconscious
all the time, right? They get knocked out all
the time on camera, and the videos do some modest
numbers, but in this case, people on the right
wing of politics are trying to ride this wave
for a little bit. There's nothing special about
some idiot getting punched out after threatening
a group of people, but... If you have political
ideologies that are so idiotic that wins for
you are exceedingly rare, you might be incentivized
to keep this footage alive. And that's because
Basin was running in Hawaii's second congressional
district as a Democrat. We got him. We got him,
guys. We got him. Of course. Of course he's a
Democrat. Right? Right? Because the... The Democrats,
they all act like that, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Whenever somebody's behaving rudely in public,
my first thought is Democrat, that's for sure.
I mean, you never see Pete Hegseth threatening
violence. other than all those times that he
did, or Donald Trump being aggressive toward
women, except all those times that he did, and
you never see a Republican congressional candidate
being charged with violent behavior besides Max
Miller, John Gillette, Tracy Wheeler, and lots
of others. This time, though, it's a Democrat.
We got him. Now, according to AI, according to
AI, I asked AI, I decided I'm going to ask AI
a question, and everybody's going to be real
shocked by that, but I needed the assistance
of AI because I wanted to, I'm like, I don't
know where to start. You know, I want to know
about this Democratic congressman. According
to AI, Basin was considered a strong Democratic
congressional candidate before this event. But
this video of him behaving badly and getting
knocked out has soured his chances. Except AI
must stand for an idiot because none of that's
true. Now, Basin was running for Congress against
incumbent Representative Jill Takuda, who is
unlikely to lose her. nomination, who was unlikely
to lose her nomination. Shockingly, she did not.
She did not lose. Electionprobabilities .com
had her at a 92 % likelihood of winning in the
primary with Basin tied with two other Democrats
at 3 % or less. Most polling put Basin at a near
zero chance of winning before getting knocked
out at the beach, and the most this video did
was buy him name recognition. The final primary
votes came in and Basin was dead last at 1 .5%.
He got 1 ,522 votes when Tokuda got 91 ,832.
The second place and third place candidates each
had double the votes of Basin. Wow. Yeah. But
right -wingers are riding on the fact that Basin
was running as a Democrat. And the people who
are riding on that, they are telling on themselves
a little bit. They are desperate for a win. Like
so desperate because their president started
a war and is doing terribly at everything while
falling asleep and shitting himself on TV over
and over again. But, but, but Bobby, Bobby, this
guy that no one's heard of, not even in his own
district in which he's running and who seems
to like Trump, by the way, but doesn't like Trump.
It's, it's complicated. He's, he's running as
a Democrat and he got punched because he's dumb.
Yeah. Plus, they need this. They need this so
bad, Bobby. That's why they have to emphasize
that he's a Democrat. Even though Hawaiian News
Now specified in their headline that he was a
long shot congressional candidate. You don't
even have to read the article. It's in the headline.
He's not like an established part of the Democratic
Party or even a serious candidate at all. But
it's funny how Fox News and the New York Post
decided to forego the long shot part. Here's
a couple of the headlines from Fox News. Quote,
Hawaii Democrat House candidate faces felony
threat charges after beach fight caught on video.
Another one. Knockout at Maui Beach caps turbulent
stretch for Democratic candidate facing felony
allegations. Now, turbulent stretch is a funny
way to explain not at all likely whatsoever long
shot attempt at running in the primary. The truth
is, no one knew or cared about Basin. Except
for maybe one councilman. And we'll get to why.
Maybe his mom. Well... Maybe. We're going to
talk about his mom, too, very briefly. But for
anyone who's skeptical of my assessment that
the primary... fuel. Keeping memes about this
event alive is a right -wing struggle for some
kind of win. I want to read a footbook post that
was included with today's meme and tagged with
pictures of Basin. It says, quote, expose this
leftist. Democratic congressional candidate gets
knocked out cold on Maui Beach after threatening
to shoot a man's wife. Kirill Basin 40, a Democrat
running against Representative Jill Tokuda, blah,
blah, blah. The Post goes on to describe the
event and then closes with, this is the man asking
Hawaii voters to send him to Congress. This is
the man, it reads, despite the fact that there
were two other men running against Tokuda in
the primaries and Basin was the least popular
among them. The comment section, God, I hate
reading comment sections, but the comment sections
of... Some of these posts seem to accept it at
face value that because this guy is running as
a Democrat, he must be an accepted part of the
Democratic Party and therefore a representative
of Democratic candidates. Most of the comments
are unbelievably stupid with jokes lumping all
Democrats with Basin, who by any account is a
very unique individual and is probably not representative
of any group except for one. He is a representative
of one group, and I'll explain that too. Now,
looking at right -wing discourses where I get
a little bit sad because I legitimately feel
bad like I'm picking on someone when it comes
to analyzing these people. And I don't just mean
the comment section or like the less informed
randos of the internet, but the entire right
-wing voter base in general. So like Tucker Carlson
sells some far -fetched nonsense and claims to
have been actually attacked by a demon and says
that scratches he woke up with on his back are
proof of him being attacked by a demon. In spite
of the fact that he sleeps with multiple large
dogs in his bed and doesn't behave ever as if
he sincerely believes that he was attacked by
a demon. He had an expert on angels and demons
and the divine on his show. Never once brought
up the fact that he was attacked by a demon.
We missed a perfect opportunity. These are the
kind of people that... these groups look up to,
right? Tucker Carlson's one of the most popular
among them. Recently, Dave Rubin made an absolute
embarrassment of himself on Surrounded, dumb
show, by the way, and still got invited on a
number of right -wing programs to talk about
the event like he did just fine because the right
-wing need him as their token homosexual so they
can pretend that they don't hate queer people
while openly hating queer people. These people
are fraudulent and they're scammers, right? Being
fooled by these people doesn't make a person
stupid necessarily, but people actively perpetuating
and supporting these liars in spite of consistent
contradictory evidence at least shows a lack
of depth when it comes to understanding socialist
issues, politics, healthcare. the economy, basically
all the things on which the right wing politicians
have a very poor track record. So I feel bad
when I try to analyze these people and I try
to, you know, think about their perspective and
things, because it becomes clear again and again
and again that there's not a lot of intellectual
depth to them. And it kind of feels like you're
picking on them, you know, because they're getting
fooled all the time, you know, especially when
it comes to these comment sections, like this
shallow level of understanding is. It's like
this flickery intellect among these comment sections.
It's not an exception. It's becoming more and
more the rule. It seems like more people who
are willing to still support right -wing politics
as they are today, they cannot possibly be serious
people intellectually. It's like you're picking
on somebody who's weak or has a disability of
some kind. So when I read into this, so I call...
I call the intellect of those realms flickery
because it's kind of like a busted TV screen.
Like if it's plugged in, it won't provide much.
And it doesn't seem to be able to access or convey
any information. But if you're in the same room
with one, it might occasionally flash pretty
bright and catch your attention. But if you stare
long enough, you realize that there's nothing
useful about it. If you happen to be watching
when the screen flashes again, you'll notice
that all it is is a meaningless flicker. No information.
Just an unpleasant... gleam of bright magnitude
but nothing of substance. At most, there'll be
a vague, faint, blurry image of something resembling
something. It seems to be all these people can
recall. Now, I want to believe that the activity
among these commenters is mostly bot -driven.
A hell of a lot of online activity is. In real
time, AI is making the dead internet theory a
reality. Do you know the dead internet theory?
No, I was going to ask. What is that? So that's
been around for a while. Before some of these
more complex AI systems have come out, basically
it's the idea that most interactions on the internet
are done between bots. Oh, yeah. Okay. And now
with more and more AI, it becomes more and more
true. And it's especially true on Twitter currently.
That whole website is dead. There's hardly any
real people left on there. It's like a handful
of like... far -right weirdos who are all jerking
each other off, and they don't understand that
they're in a pool of robots. You know, it's,
it's, yeah. Anyway, unfortunately, a lot of these
people swimming around these comment sections,
they are actually human people caught up in a
web of misinformation and dopamine cycles of
self -validation. It makes me sad because it
seemed like in the past, most people would not
engage in a conversation if they knew nothing
about it, or would at least look things up if
they were going to pretend to know. But more
and more influence comes from shitheads like
Tim Pool or Asmongold who show their audiences
that the way to look smart is to just read a
headline and start yammering authoritatively
about the subject without ever looking into any
context. And that's the way some of these shows
work. Like Asmongold will cycle through headlines
and people send him headlines and stuff. And
he'll just read the headline and he'll kind of
start to scroll in the article. And he'll just
start yammering on about, oh, this is the way
it always is. And, you know, going off on the
fucking headline. And I'll, you know, here in
a little bit, I'll get to why you can't just
go by a headline. Like sometimes the body text
completely contradicts what the headline seems
to say. It's like the little clickbait thumbnail
thing. Yeah. Yeah. And people and dipshits like
Asmongold and Tim Pool, they read the headline
and then they just want to. Talk like they're
an authority on the information about it. And
it's it's sad. It's it's idiotic. And it's it's
encouraging these people to engage in conversation
without knowing anything. Just adding to like
just this ever spinning cycle of bullshit. It's
it's ridiculous. This shit behavior rolls downhill
into the comment sections. Right. And so it doesn't
matter if Kirill Basin isn't a candidate in any
serious sense of the term. What matters is that
the headline reads that he's a Democrat, and
the picture of him in the meme has a Democrat
donkey tattoo, and he's running for Congress
in the Democratic primary. Now that's an interesting
term. Primary. Democratic primary. The name suggests
that this race is between Democrats specifically.
That's probably why Basin ran in the primary,
because he's a big dumb lib. Democratic cuck
or whatever. But how much of a leftist really
is Basin? Now, while Basin seems to have been
pretty consistent in terms of supporting things
like civil rights, LGBTQ representation, climate
activism, he strikes me as a little bit performative
and contrarian. In 2016, he ended up voting against
a Democrat in that district because that Democrat
was for gun control after Sandy Hook. And he
voted for... the Republican that had no political
history and the Republican that he voted for,
he ended, he ended up being a very big Trump
supporter, um, in the end. So he, the basin,
not, he. He's kind of knee jerky, you know, in
that sort of way. And, you know, the fact that
he's a big leftist liberal cuck is probably why
on June 3rd of this year, he tagged Representative
Adam Kinsinger, a Republican, and asked if Kinsinger
would like to be his running mate for his presidential
ticket. So, yeah, this guy who couldn't manage
2%, he couldn't get 2 % in a local primary, wants
to run for president and is already naming a
VP, a Republican VP, by the way. Sure. Fucking
leftist. Now, I know a lot of people make non
-serious runs for president, but Basin strikes
me as someone who is just the right level of
out of touch with reality to sincerely believe
he has a chance. And probably right up to the
end, too. Probably for unfounded reasons, essentially.
Even if there's no good reason for him to win
or to even think he's going to win, I feel like
he's the type of person who can continue to believe
that he will. Oh, yeah. And that's because he's
one of these flickery commenters. He's one of
the comment section people. As evidence that
Basin is one of these typical comment section
time wasters, I can present to you a long argument
Basin had on Reddit about typos and putting each
other down for how... their intelligence, you
know, being condescending to each other about
how much more smart I am than you, that kind
of, that kind of stupid argument. And this long
ongoing argument was, was, it was with somebody
with the username, the vampire scriptures. Uh,
anyway, on May 31st comment section, representative
basin, uh, posted on Facebook. By the way, I'm
not one of those politicians who says this is
the only office I want. I want to be president.
So we got the constitutional amendment in the
works. Now, the amendment to which he's referring,
Basin needs a constitutional amendment because
according to a post he made to Joe Rogan, he
is an immigrant born in Ukraine. Basin's mother
at 23, when she was 23 years old, she left Ukraine.
which was part of the Soviet Union at the time.
And according to Basin, his mother took four
generations of her family and fled the Soviet
Union. He didn't include all that in the post
to Rogan. That's something I found out later.
But it makes his bid for president a little difficult.
Now, he tags Joe Rogan, and he seems to like
tagging people with a lot of influence. And for
listeners who, Follow me on Blue Sky. I know
I've tagged Dr. Hoda several times, and that's
because he's my only internet friend, and he'll
continue to have to deal with that until I have
more friends. So, Basin tagged Rogan asking to
have a conversation about, quote, civil liberties
and accountability. I know it's tempting to laugh
at Basin for this reach, okay? But this post
isn't as dumb as it sounds. Rogan is definitely
the right kind of gullible for Basin, Not that
Basin would try to trick him or anything like
that. I actually do believe that Kirill Basin
is a sincere person in a lot of what he says.
But Basin's batshit, okay, like Basin's batshittery,
trying to make a noun out of batshit. I mean,
it is a noun, but it's an adjective usually.
Anyway. He's batshit crazy. And his batshittery
is like the peanut butter to Joe Rogan's gullibility
chocolate. It's like the perfect combination.
So it's not as dumb as that. But anyway, he would
be the perfect candidate for or the perfect guest
for Joe Rogan's awful show. Yeah. Basin includes
in the post that that he is a New York University
law graduate and former public defender. Now,
he posts a lot that he's a New York University
graduate, a New York University law graduate.
And I kept thinking, like, he just says that,
you know, and then he says that he was also a
public defender, almost like the two things aren't
related or whatever. So I thought I was going
to find out that he didn't actually graduate
or he graduated with a different degree. And,
you know, he just. practice the law just apparently
anybody can you know maybe that kind of thing
yeah no he actually i mean he he was a real public
defender i'm just not in any of the districts
you would expect i think he was the public defender
in alaska yeah i mean not a lot of work up there
he's he's been all over the fucking place right
and in alaska i don't know like i don't know
how big their pool is to choose from you know
yeah he might have been it But yeah, no, he's
not a serious candidate for anything at all.
But the people sharing this meme, they have to
keep sharing it because, oh, a Democrat did something
stupid, you know. And I want to put Democrat
in quotes because he's he's not he's barely he's
not even he wouldn't without this video. He wouldn't
be a blip on anybody's radar. Right. But for
his vehement stupidity, Kirill Basin was charged
for the beach fight when he was charged for terroristic
threat of the first degree. I want to point out
that there is an important legal distinction
between terrorism and terroristic threat. Terrorism
refers to violence of the threat or the threat
of violence in order to incite some kind of social
or political change. There is a motive beyond
the immediate fear, harm or death that's that
may be caused in the illegal act. This is why
it drives me crazy that when authorities say
that they're still looking for a motive when,
you know, for like a terrorist attack and people
post like motive, the motive of terrorism is
to kill. It's the hate when people post that.
So idiotic. The motive of terrorism is specifically
not the act of killing. It's the desired social
political change that the terrorist thinks going
to be accomplished through fear. It's an idiotic
way to try to bring about change since terrorism
tends to galvanize people rather than persuade
them. But the motive is the change, regardless
of how stupid the process or unlikely the outcome.
Terroristic threat is a different charge. In
Hawaii, there is legal precedent to define terrorizing
as, quote, the risk of causing another person
serious harm, serious alarm for his or her personal
safety. And according to Wise Penal Code, Chapter
707, a person commits terroristic threat of the
first degree, quote, by threatening another person
on one or more occasions for the same or similar
purpose or by threats made in common scheme against
a different person. Other ways to escalate terroristic
threat to the first degree include things like
brandishing a weapon. or something that looks
like a weapon. Now, that last part bothers me,
something that looks like a weapon. And the way
that the code's written kind of bothers me a
little bit. It says use of, quote, dangerous
instrument or simulated firearm. That will elevate
a terroristic threat charge to one of the first
degree, which is reasonable if the... simulated
firearm can be narrowly defined. Here's how the
law defines a simulated firearm in Hawaii. It's
any object that, one, substantially resembles
a firearm, two, can be reasonably perceived to
be a firearm, or three, is brandished as a firearm.
It's number two that bothers me. Number one is
reasonable to the extent that if an object really
does resemble a firearm, and you can show a jury
the object and the jury will agree on its firearmality,
then it's reasonable to have felt threatened
as if by a firearm. If everybody can agree it
looks like one, fine. It resembles a firearm,
yeah. I would think that was a gun. I could see
thinking that's a gun, especially in a heated
situation. Number three is reasonable in the
sense that if the threatening person is treating
the object as a firearm, it's generally understandable
to interpret that it is in fact a firearm. Number
two feels to me like a caveat because, like it
says, can be reasonably perceived as a firearm.
Basically, you can just feel threatened, right?
I perceived it as a firearm. They shouldn't need
number two if they have number one and three.
So, like, for example, if Joe is holding a hot
dog and there's an altercation with Frank, prosecution
of Joe says that Frank thought the hot dog was
a gun. thereby suggesting Frank's terroristic
threatening should be elevated to the first degree.
This argument does not fit, number one, because
no jury is going to look at a hot dog and all
agree that it looks like a gun. Number three
doesn't fit because Joe was holding the hot dog
as one holds a hot dog. But the prosecution says,
in the heat of the moment, Frank reasonably perceived
the hot dog as a firearm because Joe pointed
it at Frank when emphasizing his scary words.
then maybe the prosecution can make number two
work, right? So I don't like number two. Fuck
that. Fuck number two. Get rid of it. If a jury
can't all agree that it looks like a gun and
the person holding the thing isn't brandishing
it as a gun, the term simulated firearm should
be thrown out. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm open
to somebody with legal background explaining
to me why that item needs to still be in the
law. But as far as I can tell, it's just there
to be abused. So get rid of it. Now, did Basin
deserve to be charged with terroristic threat
at the first degree? Well, if the claims about
him saying he had a gun and brandishing a weapon,
which is a knife, or threatening people with
a knife, then yeah, probably. Probably terrorizing
people and he did have a weapon. But I was totally
on board with the charge, reading through the
articles, comments. I was avoiding watching the
beach fight, but after finally getting myself
to watch this stupid video, I'm not so sure about
the charge of a terroristic threat of the first
degree. He was talking a lot of shit and got
knocked out. All he had to do was walk away or
even turn his music down, but instead he acted
like a child until somebody was too fed up and
came and just knocked him out. Now, the man who
knocked Kirill Basin out is Kama Homan. He's
a construction business owner. He claims to have
mixed martial arts training. He approached the
situation to begin to confront Basin. Basin,
already irate, was ready to fight Homan, who
is clearly a lot larger than him. Homan fronts
on Basin, who is backing away, still ready to
fight. When it becomes clear that he can't take
Homan, and Homan was not about to back off, Basin
grabs the beach chair, swings it at him. This
thing's pretty light, not much of a threat, but
Homan sort of punches around the chair, hitting
Basin in the chin, and Basin goes down easy.
A lot of the headlines about this story really
irritated me, especially after watching the video.
But these odd choice of words in these headlines
were generally geared to get conservatives to
click the articles. And usually targeting Basin
because he was the one running as a Democrat.
But the New York Post, they've been on an extra
bad title streak lately. Before I get on to the
New York Post's awful titling of Article Streak,
I do want to mention that the reason why I don't,
after seeing the video, why I'm not so sure about
the first degree level for the terroristic threat
charges, that I never saw a knife in his hand.
And Holman, the guy who knocked him out, said
that when he pulled the knife on me, that's when
I knew things got serious. It's like, but he
didn't, though. There was no knife. He didn't
pull a knife on Holman. I mean, Basin probably
deserved to get knocked out. But I didn't see
a knife at any point. Maybe he thought the chair
was a knife. You know, it could be reasonably
perceived. I mean, in the heat of the moment,
he was swinging that chair like a knife. So that's
probably why he thought that. So he's brandishing
it as a knife. He thought he was going to get
stabbed. So dumb. He gets stabbed with a chair.
That would hurt. Yeah, it sure would. Pretty
blunt. But the New York Post, like I said, they've
been on a bad title streak lately. And one example
I can give is that the other day, at least one
woman, I think it's up to two now, had been paralyzed
because of a really bad mix -up in sterile compounds.
Yeah. She was given an epidural with potassium
chloride when she likely should have been receiving
something like an analgesic, like bupivacaine
or something like that. Potassium chloride is
exactly what it sounds like. It's an electrolyte
molecule, sometimes given in cases of hypokalemia,
low potassium. It's also one of the ingredients
in cardioplegia bags, which are given to cardiac
patients to temporarily stop the heart during
open heart surgery. But it's very dangerous to
the spine. Cardioplegia bags have a number of
things in them, including potassium chloride.
But potassium chloride is very dangerous to the
spine. I won't go into the details because we'll
probably end up having to do an episode on it.
But the New York Post, with all its integrity,
has decided to write in the headline that patients
were given, quote, a lethal injection drug, which
is a good way to describe potassium chloride
if you don't ever want to be trusted again. Now,
the reason why they call it a lethal injection
drug is because in the cocktail that they use
to kill inmates, potassium chloride's in there.
There's a number of other things it's used for.
It's so fucking dumb. It's a dumb... They've
been real bad about article titles lately. They're
not wrong. It is in there. See, don't encourage
them. Don't encourage their stupid stupidity.
But the title, the headline for the beach fight,
the dipshit politician's beach fight, it reads,
Fighter who knocked out Dem Congress hopeful
reveals what really sparked brawl. Anti -white
slur emerges. Okay, so the suggestion is that
an anti -white slur led to the fight, but the
first line of the article reads, quote, the fighter
who knocked out a Hawaii Democrat has revealed
that the brawl was caused by the wannabe politician
pulling out a knife and claimed he had a gun.
I'm going to point out every idiotic thing about
the headline and opening line of this article.
One, anti -white slur was clearly in the headline
to suggest that the cause of the fight was an
anti -white slur when the opening line directly
contradicts that. Two, the sentence calls the
construction worker who punched him, quote, the
fighter because he said in an interview that
he studied some MMA. That can mean anything.
Three, the headline calls Basin dem. Congress
hopeful, which is inaccurate since there was
no hope for Basin. And the opening line calls
him a wannabe politician, which is far more accurate.
The headlines should have said that. All the
headlines should read that. And four, part of
the opening line reads, quote, bra was caused
by the wannabe politician pulling out a knife
and claimed he had a gun. Okay, so there's mixed
tenses here, which makes this sentence confusing.
If you read the entire thing, it's hard to tell
if it's Basin who claimed he had a gun or if
Holman claimed Basin had a gun. Yeah. So it's
hard to figure out, like, what are they trying
to say here? It's poorly worded. Now, further
reading about the stupid event indicates that
Basin suggested he had a gun in his bag. And
this isn't the first time that a potential firearm
in Basin's bag has been a factor in a situation
in which he found himself. I'm going to get to
that, but the way I'm going to get to it is by
going over something that I couldn't stop doing.
I was reading through this and I kept reading
through his social media and all this stuff,
this crazy shit. He has like a million words
posted online. It's just he never stops. That's
why I called him the comment section representative
because that's what he is. Now, I kept finding
myself trying to psychoanalyze him. And as some
people know, I often criticize others for trying
to diagnose people through the TV or whatever
with whatever the hell. And that's because diagnoses
require more than just noticing some signs or
symptoms that you know. That made me realize
like you like. So the fact I couldn't stop trying
to psychoanalyze them, I needed a reminder of
of what I knew in college that. that you can't
psychoanalyze somebody through the TV, right?
We did do a project. We were trying to diagnose
a personality disorder of a celebrity. And that
was just a practice of looking for signs and
symptoms. You can't, it has no clinical meaning.
In order to try to get this out of my head, I
actually went to the library and pulled out the
DSM -5. Not metaphorically, I actually physically
went and did that. The DSM is the diagnostic
manual. to the human mind, and I challenged myself
to become convinced that I know exactly what
mental illness Basin has because I knew I wouldn't
be able to do it. Psychoanalyzing someone with
whom you cannot interact fundamentally has no
clinical significance, and it didn't take me
long to revive that recognition in my mind, the
limitations of trying to do that. Well, a more
common interpretation of behaviors like Basin's
would be something broadly familiar. So I decided
to start with what it seems like the most likely.
mental issue he has and go from there. And so
while more common interpretation of behaviors
like Basin's would be something broadly familiar
like bipolar disorder, I thought oppositional
defiant disorder seemed more fitting for Basin.
So I started there in the DSM. Even though ODD
is usually diagnosed during childhood or adolescence,
symptoms do persist into or can persist into
an adulthood. And Basin's most prominent symptoms
That have had a significant and negative impact
on his life recently are classic ODD behaviors.
And more importantly, an ODD analysis gives me
a simple framework to move this script forward.
So first, this isn't one of the diagnostic criteria,
but people with ODD may often defy reasonable
requests or rules. You know, especially from
authority figures, but sometimes just at all.
You ask them to do anything, they're going to
want to do the opposite, right? Right, okay.
And as I go over these, I want everybody to understand,
before saying I have ODD, okay, before somebody
accuses me of that, I want to say that there
is just a little bit of crossover with ADHD,
okay? Just a little bit. In fact, that's one
of the differential diagnoses you need to eliminate.
If you're going to diagnose somebody with ODD,
but, um, so, uh, basically refusing. One of the
things is refusing a reasonable request, you
know, like maybe turning your music down at the
beach. Like, I mean, um, the, um, allegedly he
had refused to turn his music down, which led
to the, uh, altercation. Um, Now, he received
a restraining order from the beach. This disallowed
him from returning. And he posted on his Facebook
that he was going back there and commented on
his own post that a temporary restraining order
is just a piece of paper and that he's a law
amongst himself. Yeah, I'd say that seems like
pretty defiant behavior. So I decided to look
into the symptoms. An ODD diagnosis requires
at least... Four of the eight primary symptoms.
People with ODD tend to be touchy and easily
annoyed. And there was no hesitation between
Basin shaking hands with the man with whom he
was arguing and then immediately arguing with
his wife because she made a comment about him
or whatever. When the man got on to him for yelling
at his wife, Basin was immediately engaged in
the argument all over again. He was immediately
heated again. People with ODD also tend to be
vindictive. And in order to fit the criteria,
it has to have happened at least twice in six
months. August 2nd was Basin's second charge
of terroristic threat since May. All right. Yeah,
he's on a good track there. But looking through
a long history of Basin's life online, it seemed
at first that his outrageous behavior is a recent
thing. which Basin claims is because he is being
targeted essentially for his activism and his
desire to do something about corruption and abuse
of authority. Now, his previous terroristic threat
charge gets brought up a lot in the news articles
because it's relevant to show a history of this
kind of behavior. But I came across a charge
against Basin of terroristic threat of the third
degree in New Jersey from 2007. And I have to
read this to you, okay? Okay. This is wonderful.
It's awful. It's awful. I mean, it's terrible.
Good for the show, though. It's one of these
things that I just get tickled when I find this
kind of thing. So this is a quote from a document
covering Basin's 2007 arrest, okay? The voicemail,
Kirill identified himself and left his phone
number. During the voicemail, Kirill stated several
threatening statements. He stated, quote, I'll
see you another night. Maybe no one will ever
see you again. Maybe not in one piece. Someone
will find you in five pieces somewhere in the
county that used to be blank. The kid that didn't
want to meet up with Kirill that night. So think
about it. Okay. Literally threatening what sounds
like to cut a person to pieces and hide the pieces
all over the county. Yeah. Sounds like a friendly
guy. That's disturbing behavior. A little bit.
That's not cool. Yeah. I'd say that's a sign
of vindictiveness. To say the least, yeah. Yeah.
Another sign of ODD. It's no surprise that the
oppositional divine disorder often includes being
argumentative with authority figures. Basin has
had at least two recent conflicts with the police
throughout, which he has been notably defiant.
Basin has sued police departments in the past,
and his most recent conflict with the Maui police
has been tumultuous as well, which led to Basin
serving a lawsuit to the county, which didn't
end in a good look for Basin. So I want to read
this petitioner declaration from the Maui County
Council member. Thomas Cook. That's a councilman
I mentioned before who may actually care who
this dude is. It's basically justification for
a restraining order against Basin. This is a
statement from Thomas Cook. At approximately
9 .30 on the morning of 5 .29 .26, I stepped
into the hall to go back to my car for a 10 a
.m. appointment. One of our plans... One of our
plans review people, Jessica, was in the hall
by our office front door and a man in a black
motorcycle helmet threw papers at her feet and
told her she was being served. I later learned
that the individual's name was Kirill Basin.
I asked him what he was doing and he said he
was serving the county as in serving the county,
you know, county getting served. Not that he
was working for the county. I stepped in his
direction to take his focus off Jessica and onto
me. He stepped to his backpack, and there was
on the ground in front of the OED, which was
unzipped, and he showed me an unholstered green
and brown slash tan gun in his bag. He lifted
it from his bag so I could see it, but did not
point it at me. I asked him if that was a gun
and if it was a real gun. I felt very uneasy,
like he was threatening me with it. I do not
clearly remember the... verbal back and forth,
but I did ask him why he was brandishing a weapon
to me, and he stated that it was legal. Didn't
answer the question, but I felt threatened and
concerned for my safety and those in the office.
He was very agitated. As he walked to the elevator,
I took out my county phone to record the rest
of the interaction. He told me, quote, he didn't
want to use the gun on me. I perceived these
as verbal threats. The interaction with Kirill
Basin made me feel threatened and concerned for
my safety and for the safety of my coworkers
that were there in the hallway as well. Not a
good look. No, not really. Serving papers to
somebody and that's how your interaction ends.
It's not a good look. Not a good look for Basin.
Now, the gun, the gun that he asked if it was
real. So I knew what gun that was because there
was a post he had made some posts about firing,
you know, practicing firing gun. He was like.
getting his he was working on his aim right sure
because he's gonna in case he needs to shoot
people i guess i mean it was it was very kind
of an unhinged thing well this gun the one that
that's in his bag it's a pellet gun which is
what makes it legal yeah probably not gonna kill
anybody with it he has said in the past too that
you know it's a pellet gun so it's legal for
me to own yeah Which makes me wonder, is he legally
not allowed to own a firearm? I don't know. I
mean, it kind of takes a lot to not be allowed
one of those in the U .S. Yeah, I mean, what,
major felony or something like that? Yeah, or,
I mean, you know, threats of suicide, too, is
one reason, yeah. But even that, it's like, I
think it's like a two -year or five -year ban.
Yeah, they'll probably get over it in a couple
years. Yeah, yeah. My God. Anyway. Got a restraining
order for that. Now, according to a narrative
statement released by Basin, this is the reason
why he was serving the county on May 2nd. So
he put out a statement as to why this is like
a narrative statement is sort of like a declaration
that all this stuff is true. And he wants to
submit this to legal record. And so according
to Basin. On May 2nd, after the beach altercation,
Kirill was asked by an officer to return to his
room. He refused to do so, claiming that, quote,
no law had been broken. The officer then arrested
Basin, and he was going to be taken to the Maui
Memorial Medical Center for evaluation. And that's
the first thing that caught my attention, considering
his mental health. I was like, hmm, if that's
the first place they wanted to take you. what
were you acting like? Yeah, it couldn't have
been good. Especially the Maui police, they can't
wait to prosecute somebody that pisses them off.
And they're not always on the up and up about
it. So the fact that they wanted to take him,
that was the first place they wanted to take
him, was the hospital. I think that says something
about Kirill's behavior. And he ended up being
taken to the police station, the police station
in Wailuku, which is the that's where the the
Maui police are headquartered is in Wailuku.
And that's where their police station is. And
so according to Basin, he repeatedly asked for
his phone call to which the officers responded
that they were busy. According to Basin, the
officers didn't appear to be busy. So, Basin
hung two blankets up over pipes in his cell to
cover security cameras, which he said got the
officer's attention. According to Basin, they
came into his cell and beat him while yelling,
stop resisting, which Basin claims was so that
the cameras, which could not see the conduct,
would pick up the audio. And this is where I
want to stop psychoanalyzing Basin. Not because
I don't think he's nuts. I do think he's nuts.
I've read enough into his past that there's something...
And I shouldn't say nuts. It's an incentive way
to address mental health issues. But not that
I don't think that there's some kind of mental
health crisis going on with them. There definitely
is. Because it didn't take me long with the DSM
to remember how solidly impossible it is to effectively
psychoanalyze somebody through the media. But
also, while... Basin was exhibiting some defiance.
He also claims that he was tortured for hours
by the police. I would have to imagine that the
initial reaction from most people when a guy
like Kirill Basin claims to have been tortured
by the police is to think that Basin is full
of shit. But among the hold requests on relevant
materials and Basin's verified complaint against
the county of Maui, it reads that, among other
things, there must be preserved and provided,
and I'm going to quote here, any prior complaints,
incidents, or claims involving conduct similar
to that alleged in the forthcoming verified complaint,
whether or not formally reduced in writing for
the period of January 1st, 2023 through the present.
That's very specific. So the Maui Police Department
has had a lot of serious issues. Recently, well,
back in 2021, a police officer was charged and
he pled guilty to using police stops and information
from those police stops to sexually pursue some
of the women who were stopped. That's not good.
Yeah. He was calling them. I listened to some
of the... the voicemail or some of the recorded
calls. Cause these girls had the wherewithal
to record what was being said to them. And it
was, it was unpleasant. He was trying to get
laid by people who got stopped by the police.
And it was the person like, you don't pursue
something like that. No, that's so weird. That
is, that is very disturbing behavior. Um, another,
uh, this is a quote from, uh, the justice department
that investigated the Maui police department,
uh, for another incident. Um, quote, a former
Maui police department officer pleaded guilty
on Friday to one count of using unreasonable
force against an arrestee. According to the plea
agreement on January 6th, 2024, Carlos Freights
or Frate, I'm not sure. Um, probably Frate. Forty
repeatedly tased an arrestee, even though the
arrestee was not resisting or posed any threat.
Frate admitted that he knew that his force was
unjustified, but nonetheless continued to tase
the arrestee despite the arrestee's pleads for
him to stop. Okay. Yeah, the Maui Police Department's
not to be trusted. Doesn't sound like it, no.
It sounds awful. There is just a history of bad
conduct among the officers, among their officers.
And there was another where a rookie and another
guy for the police department got called out
for... Um, to investigate a motorcycle had reportedly
gotten backed into in a parking lot. Um, but
there was nobody around who to be prosecuted
for the, um, for the thing. And so they found
in the, uh, footage to security footage that
it was actually one of the leadership of the
police department that backed into it and then
just drove away. Wow. Hit and run from the police.
Yeah. And so after that was, uh, After that footage
was released, the police went after the cop that
released it, kidnapped him, took him into custody,
and interrogated him. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's
fucked up. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's fucked
up. So, like, this is one of the things, like,
police corruption is something that should definitely
be addressed, right? Yeah. Not by Creel Basin,
though. Like, I don't want... Because, like,
people, unfortunately, they don't... they don't
teach like logic and reasoning in schools in
the U S they really should. But when people see,
Oh, crazy bat shit, Kirill Basin is accusing
the police department of torturing him. The police
department must be a solid. entity because he's
a crazy person when really those things don't
eliminate each other now when you just when you
explain it outright like that it sounds really
obvious but in fun like in terms of of uh social
functionality people don't put that much thought
into things and so they're gonna think can you
believe he's accusing the the maui police like
can you believe he's accusing them you know people
who aren't familiar with how shitty their police
department is um like They're going to be like,
it's just a crazy guy. I know that accusations
against the police department is bullshit because
of this Cairo Basin guy this one time. Not him.
I don't want him. These are things that need
to be addressed, and they're very serious, and
I don't want it to be him because he's nuts.
Anyway, that's comment section representative
Cairo Basin. He lost his primary election by
a lot. He was last place. He couldn't even get
half the votes of the second or third place person.
They each had double of his votes, and neither
of them broke 3 % in the thing. That's pretty
bad. Yeah, yeah. He's nobody. He's fucking nobody.
But these right -wing people, they are trying
so hard to keep this alive and trying to ride
this little wave because they have nothing. They
have so little to ride on. And the thing is,
the Democratic Party sucks. They're weak. They're
pathetic. they like keep trying to be this middle
of the aisle kind of thing. And they're, they're
falling for all the bait from the right wing
politicians. Like they suck. There's so much
to be, to make fun of them for, but like, they're
not the embarrassment that the right wing has
been lately. Right. And so the fact that people
need to ride this wave on Kirill fucking basin,
like. It just it's they're telling on themselves,
you know. Yeah. But the story ended up being
kind of complicated and interesting to look at
the history and everything. And did the police
torture him? I don't know. I believe it as a
possibility. But because he's fucking nuts, like
it's hard to say, you know, who's at fault there.
Like who did the bad thing? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
it could be both could be. I mean, they're both
there. could both be full of shit, you know?
And that's always a possibility. Maybe they're
all crazy. Yeah. It's just, it's, I don't know.
Like the police department, they don't have a
good history. He doesn't have a good history.
I, you know, I doubt that the department was
reformed before he got arrested. And I, you know,
he has, he has shown a history of, one of the
things that's sort of contradictory to an ODD.
diagnosis which you don't don't diagnose people
like one of the few of the things like you like
one of the things that that's included in the
dsm -5 that wasn't included in previous versions
of it are like um a long -term mild cognitive
disorders related to like substance abuse that
even after you've quit you've had you know some
lingering effect of of having been on drugs for
a long time yeah um you know things like that
And so you can't diagnose Kirill Basin through
the TV, through his posts, anything, because
you don't know what his toxicity is. You don't
know what his mental health is at that time.
And he also claims to have PTSD or some other
types of trauma as well. So these are differential
diagnoses you need to be able to eliminate. And
this is why you need a clinical setting. You
need to know all the details and you need to
be able to analyze in person. You can't do that.
I need that reminder. And I knew, I knew better,
but I kept going back to try to like, oh, he
probably has this. Oh, he probably has that.
I'm like, we're going to the library. We're going
to sit there. That's all I'm going to look at
is the diagnostic manual and that's it. And,
and I'll, I'll remember why this is impossible.
But yeah, no, it's. What do you think? What do
you think of this guy and the whole situation?
I say don't go to Hawaii. Stay away from Maui,
at least. Yeah, that one island specifically.
Yeah, yeah. It didn't seem like a good place.
It was a beautiful place, you know, just that's...
Yeah. Well, yeah, and, you know, the whole, the
white, the slur for white people thing, it was
Howie called him Howie. So the guy who knocked
Basin out called him Holly Boy. And after he
woke up, he said something along the lines of
like, you're still going to try to fight Holly
Boy or something like that. It had nothing to
do with the initial altercation. He had already
been knocked out. That was a stupid article.
Yeah, I've never heard that slur before. Holly,
generally it's a pejorative for white people,
mainly for white people. Sometimes it's used
more broad for outsiders. Um, the, the context
in context, it could be used in a neutral way.
Um, but a lot of times it is used, uh, insultingly
and it's because white people invaded their Island,
you know? I mean, we do that. We do do that.
And before anybody says anything, Middle East
counts as white, apparently. I saw it. work application
a long time ago. Oh, okay. It said, like, how
do you identify? And I was, like, looking through,
and I was looking for Middle Eastern, and it
had Middle Eastern, it had white, you know, and
then there was a bunch of other stuff, and it
said Middle Eastern in parentheses white. I'm
like, okay, all right, well, I guess, yeah. White
-ish. Yeah. Yeah, I'm white passing, so. But
anyway, yeah. That was kind of off the subject.
But, yeah, so holly boy, I'm calling that. Whatever.
Like, I don't fucking care. Like we're essentially
on their Island. Yeah. But yeah. Anyway, crazy
fucking situation. Really nuts. I mean, no, there's
no political implication. No, there's none. There's
not even, there's no impact whatsoever. Uh, no
matter how badly these right wing people need
it to be. Some of the comments sections in the,
like on the YouTube thing, on the YouTube channels
and, and on the. uh facebook posts and stuff
it's like i love laughing at democrats and the
other like there's always a response of it's
not that hard they all act like this it's like
god you guys know they don't they're very non
-confrontational which is a problem One of the
problems of Democrats is that they seem to be
afraid of conflict. That's not how politics works.
Come on. Fight back. Yeah, pick up your fucking
balls. Come on. At least Kirill Basin, I mean,
he might suck at it, but at least he tried to
fight all the wrong people. Anyway, thank you
all so much for listening. Goodbye, everybody.
Bye.