WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.919 Hello everybody, thank you all so much for listening 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:04.639 to Memingless, where we look into internet nonsense 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:06.339 and try to understand what in the hell it all 00:00:06.339 --> 00:00:09.560 means. Lately, I've had a lot of guests on the 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:12.279 show, but I'm thankful to have my co -host back, 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:15.199 my very favorite person to podcast with, my friend 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.620 Bobby. Hello! Bobby, it's been too long since 00:00:18.620 --> 00:00:21.179 you've been... on our show. It's been a while. 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:23.679 Yeah. Life has kind of happened a lot. Yeah, 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:25.660 a lot of life has happened. Yeah. That's for 00:00:25.660 --> 00:00:28.399 sure. I'm back. Yes, and I'm so glad you're back. 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:30.199 Now, a lot of people at this point are probably 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:32.240 thinking that the podcast is just me, but no, 00:00:32.259 --> 00:00:34.439 it's me and Bobby. Bobby's my co -host because 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:36.500 she's hilarious, and if you don't think so, you're 00:00:36.500 --> 00:00:39.920 wrong. Yeah. For the record, I am extremely thankful 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.020 for everyone who has been on the show so far, 00:00:42.179 --> 00:00:43.840 and I've got more guests coming up that I'm very 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:46.359 excited to have on, but there's just something 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:48.119 comforting about being in the studio with my 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:54.560 co -host. So, Bobby, Boberella, Bob Rule, I have 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.079 a meme for you to look at. I would like you to 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.000 describe it to our listeners and tell us how 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:01.420 it reads. All right, I'll do my best. All right, 00:01:01.420 --> 00:01:03.979 so it looks like a school bus. I don't know. 00:01:04.180 --> 00:01:05.680 They got kind of weird windows on here. We never 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.340 had blinds on our school bus. Anyway, there's 00:01:08.340 --> 00:01:11.959 a bunch of young people. Young men? Young people 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.319 on this bus. And it says, and then the whole 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.379 bus clapped. And everybody on the bus has got 00:01:17.379 --> 00:01:18.599 their hands up in the air. It looks like they're 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.719 clapping and rejoicing in a way. All right. Thank 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.640 you for that explanation. So, yeah, we've got 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.079 a bus full of people clapping. And it says, and 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.859 the whole bus clapped. So what got this meme 00:01:30.859 --> 00:01:34.030 on my mind recently? was I was listening to a 00:01:34.030 --> 00:01:36.409 podcast called Hood Politics. Listeners, if you 00:01:36.409 --> 00:01:37.790 haven't listened to Hood Politics, you should 00:01:37.790 --> 00:01:40.049 definitely check it out. The host prop is really 00:01:40.049 --> 00:01:42.650 good at taking political and historical events 00:01:42.650 --> 00:01:44.790 and concepts and situations and putting them 00:01:44.790 --> 00:01:48.329 into like a clear modern language. And he's very 00:01:48.329 --> 00:01:50.510 insightful and just fun to listen to in general. 00:01:51.290 --> 00:01:53.409 I won't go into too much detail about what his 00:01:53.409 --> 00:01:55.849 podcast episode was about, because if you want 00:01:55.849 --> 00:01:57.409 to learn about it, you should listen to Hood 00:01:57.409 --> 00:02:00.310 Politics. The episode is called It Gives Blacks 00:02:00.310 --> 00:02:04.569 Rule. But basically he compares some supposed 00:02:04.569 --> 00:02:07.469 evidence regarding recent events to something 00:02:07.469 --> 00:02:10.650 that happened in 2015 where a white dude in Alabama 00:02:10.650 --> 00:02:13.509 clearly faked a hate crime against himself and 00:02:13.509 --> 00:02:16.090 said that it was perpetrated by black people. 00:02:16.330 --> 00:02:19.710 Nice. You got to listen to that episode. It's 00:02:19.710 --> 00:02:22.830 good. The event was so laughably false, though, 00:02:22.889 --> 00:02:26.650 that it became a meme in itself. I remember the 00:02:26.650 --> 00:02:28.870 situation. I remember finding it very funny because 00:02:28.870 --> 00:02:31.830 of how stupid it was. These fake stories and 00:02:31.830 --> 00:02:34.310 faked evidence seem to be still pervasive even 00:02:34.310 --> 00:02:36.849 amongst younger people who have spent their entire 00:02:36.849 --> 00:02:39.250 lives with access to the internet and have spent 00:02:39.250 --> 00:02:41.590 their entire lives encountering absolute nonsense. 00:02:42.229 --> 00:02:44.009 And one would think that they would have more 00:02:44.009 --> 00:02:48.469 keen awareness of what is and is not valid. And 00:02:48.469 --> 00:02:55.490 that takes us to our meme. So, to illustrate 00:02:55.490 --> 00:02:57.930 the point of this meme, I'm going to read a story 00:02:57.930 --> 00:03:01.840 for you. Alright. And this is potentially the 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:10.659 origin of the meme. So this is a post originally 00:03:10.659 --> 00:03:14.879 on Facebook, and it says, or it reads, Oh my 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.460 God, I just witnessed the single greatest moment 00:03:17.460 --> 00:03:20.860 in human history. Wow. On a bus heading home 00:03:20.860 --> 00:03:22.979 from the city, I was greeted by an incredibly 00:03:22.979 --> 00:03:25.400 nice Russian -sounding bus driver with a smile 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.909 on his face. About four stops later, In the valley, 00:03:29.030 --> 00:03:32.830 of course, a bogon hops on with his skanky, I 00:03:32.830 --> 00:03:36.990 assume, girlfriend. A bogon is like, so it's 00:03:36.990 --> 00:03:41.090 an Australian term for, the best word in American, 00:03:41.370 --> 00:03:45.830 the best term in American would be like riffraff. 00:03:45.969 --> 00:03:54.229 Okay. So a bogon hops on with his skanky, I assume, 00:03:54.349 --> 00:03:56.789 girlfriend. May have been his sister, may have 00:03:56.789 --> 00:04:01.110 been both. Naturally, he does not have money 00:04:01.110 --> 00:04:04.389 for the bus, so of course the bogun, henceforth 00:04:04.389 --> 00:04:08.270 referred to as Shitskull, blames the bus driver. 00:04:08.490 --> 00:04:12.250 Using all manner of racial slurs, loud profanity, 00:04:12.370 --> 00:04:15.729 and general offensive douchebaggery, Shitskull 00:04:15.729 --> 00:04:18.509 proceeds to be an asshole and make the entire 00:04:18.509 --> 00:04:22.230 bus shuffle uncomfortably in their seats. All 00:04:22.230 --> 00:04:27.329 except one man. Ah, this man. I wish I could 00:04:27.329 --> 00:04:30.370 be this man. The average looking hero that stepped 00:04:30.370 --> 00:04:34.050 up to defend the port bus driver. Quote, look, 00:04:34.149 --> 00:04:37.649 mate, he's just doing his job. How's about you 00:04:37.649 --> 00:04:39.610 calm down? I'm not going to keep doing that. 00:04:39.629 --> 00:04:40.930 We have Australian listeners and they're going 00:04:40.930 --> 00:04:44.069 to make fun of me. How's about you calm down 00:04:44.069 --> 00:04:46.829 and leave the bus driver alone? It's not his 00:04:46.829 --> 00:04:50.470 fault you can't pay. The logic of the situation 00:04:50.470 --> 00:04:54.819 made his slate. The logic of the situation made 00:04:54.819 --> 00:04:58.139 a slight whistling noise as it passed over Shit 00:04:58.139 --> 00:05:00.600 Skull's head. As it passed over Shit Skull's 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.860 head. This reads so stupid. We could see the 00:05:04.860 --> 00:05:08.139 Tonka truck gears clunk and grind in this man's 00:05:08.139 --> 00:05:12.180 underdeveloped cranium. Calm down. It must be 00:05:12.180 --> 00:05:15.379 a challenge. Quote, Are you trying to start me, 00:05:15.459 --> 00:05:18.660 cunt? You wanna go, you fucking cunt? You wanna 00:05:18.660 --> 00:05:22.319 fucking go me? Ah, truly the words of a poet. 00:05:22.730 --> 00:05:25.850 But even Oscar Wilde himself couldn't have predicted 00:05:25.850 --> 00:05:29.069 the Batman -esque reaction of, yeah, actually, 00:05:29.209 --> 00:05:33.089 let's do this, off the bus. You could hear a 00:05:33.089 --> 00:05:36.930 penny drop in the 256 megabyte brain inside Shit 00:05:36.930 --> 00:05:40.550 Skull's shitty little skull. Finally, the judging 00:05:40.550 --> 00:05:43.029 eyes of the bus coupled with the high -pitched 00:05:43.029 --> 00:05:46.370 slurring voice of his sister -daughter telling 00:05:46.370 --> 00:05:50.110 him to Take him, and quoting directly, don't 00:05:50.110 --> 00:05:52.790 take none that shit, babe, convinced both of 00:05:52.790 --> 00:05:56.009 them to step off the bus ready to fight. Calmer 00:05:56.009 --> 00:05:58.889 than a monk on morphine, our hero turns to the 00:05:58.889 --> 00:06:01.449 bus driver and simply says, shut the door, mate, 00:06:01.569 --> 00:06:05.230 and walks back to his motherfucking seat. The 00:06:05.230 --> 00:06:08.209 bus driver shut the door, drove away, and the 00:06:08.209 --> 00:06:11.470 entire bus erupted. We were clapping, we were 00:06:11.470 --> 00:06:13.970 cheering, I gave Shit Skull the finger out the 00:06:13.970 --> 00:06:17.259 window, and I'm pretty sure people hugged. That's 00:06:17.259 --> 00:06:24.540 a great story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, great story. 00:06:24.779 --> 00:06:28.259 So clearly this exchange didn't happen. Yeah. 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:31.019 So because first off, I'm pretty certain that 00:06:31.019 --> 00:06:35.060 Australians don't hug each other ever. No, no. 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:37.720 That was a joke. Okay, shout out. Never met me. 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.120 Shout out to our Australian listeners. Actually, 00:06:40.180 --> 00:06:41.839 for any Aussies listening, I do have another 00:06:41.839 --> 00:07:03.730 joke. So, because of that joke, I actually ended 00:07:03.730 --> 00:07:06.449 up reading... a lot about affection and dating 00:07:06.449 --> 00:07:08.930 and romance in Australia because ADHD brain. 00:07:09.170 --> 00:07:11.329 And I learned some interesting things, but that's 00:07:11.329 --> 00:07:13.310 not what this episode's about. This episode's 00:07:13.310 --> 00:07:17.769 about clapping, I guess. So because of the obviously 00:07:17.769 --> 00:07:21.310 absurd ending to the story, phrases like, and 00:07:21.310 --> 00:07:23.649 then everybody clapped, or and then everybody 00:07:23.649 --> 00:07:26.470 applauded, became a sort of meme response to 00:07:26.470 --> 00:07:29.750 express skepticism toward a story. Another example 00:07:29.750 --> 00:07:32.949 of this is using the phrase, cool story, bro. 00:07:34.350 --> 00:07:38.129 In order to be, in order to pretend to be neutral, 00:07:38.290 --> 00:07:40.769 I'm going to give an example of a right -wing 00:07:40.769 --> 00:07:44.389 lie and a left -wing lie to which the phrase, 00:07:44.389 --> 00:07:46.870 and then everybody clapped, would be appropriate. 00:07:47.250 --> 00:07:52.550 Or, in legalese, mimo apropo. Here is an example 00:07:52.550 --> 00:07:55.680 from the left. I was sitting on the bus the other 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.319 day and at the back of the bus was a lesbian 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:00.720 couple holding hands and giggling to each other. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.860 An elderly woman came and sat beside me and mumbled 00:08:03.860 --> 00:08:07.439 to herself, disgusting homosexuals. I then turned 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.860 to her and say, I'm gay. She shouted, driver, 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.459 stop the bus and make this homosexual move away 00:08:13.459 --> 00:08:16.680 from me. Driver, a big Jamaican man, stopped 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.100 the bus and pointed toward me and where the other 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:24.740 women were sitting and said, you, off the bus. 00:08:24.899 --> 00:08:27.180 At first, I thought he was talking to me. When 00:08:27.180 --> 00:08:31.720 I questioned if it was me, he was asking to get 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:34.240 off the bus. He replied, no, her, and pointed 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.120 at the woman. And the driver said, my son is 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.720 gay and I will not allow homophobes on my bus 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:42.860 and the bus will not move until you're off. The 00:08:42.860 --> 00:08:44.820 woman then got off the bus and said, you're all 00:08:44.820 --> 00:08:47.600 going to hell, which the driver replied to by 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:50.559 saying, well, I'll see you there as you're not 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:52.379 getting into heaven if you can't accept that 00:08:52.379 --> 00:08:55.179 some people are gay. He then closed the bus doors 00:08:55.179 --> 00:08:58.139 and drove off. An appropriate response to this 00:08:58.139 --> 00:09:00.759 story would be, and then everybody on the bus 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.019 clapped and cheered, and I'm pretty sure some 00:09:03.019 --> 00:09:06.200 people were fucking. Now, here is an example 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:09.519 from the right. Got stuck in a networking event 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.519 with a conservative woman that was voting for 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:16.620 Kamala. You, of all people? I said, why? Embarrassed, 00:09:16.620 --> 00:09:19.879 she said, for women's rights. I asked her husband. 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:25.539 He sheepishly said Kamala. Remaining calm, I 00:09:25.539 --> 00:09:27.779 took the time to explain the abortion laws and 00:09:27.779 --> 00:09:30.960 explain it's not what she has heard. She said 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.279 she didn't know all this and will research and 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.100 change her vote for Trump if I was right. Husband 00:09:36.100 --> 00:09:39.429 fist bumped me and whispered, Thank you. Winning. 00:09:39.950 --> 00:09:42.250 An appropriate response to this story would be, 00:09:42.330 --> 00:09:44.629 And then everybody clapped and hugged, and the 00:09:44.629 --> 00:09:46.750 bus driver came down just to give me a high five. 00:09:46.909 --> 00:09:50.730 And that bus driver's name? Jesus Christ. Later, 00:09:50.850 --> 00:09:52.909 I found out Jesus had slipped a letter into my 00:09:52.909 --> 00:09:55.190 pocket. But it wasn't just a letter. It was a 00:09:55.190 --> 00:09:58.090 free pass to sin and still get into heaven. I'm 00:09:58.090 --> 00:10:01.600 going to use it to say the N -word. So approaching 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.840 these goofy stories with skepticism is a fun 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.340 and in some ways valuable exercise to encourage 00:10:07.340 --> 00:10:09.600 others to question the validity of a lot of the 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.960 nonsense we see online. Now, I have another story 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:15.840 that is really interesting regarding this type 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:19.200 of skepticism. It might seem trivial at first, 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.419 but there is a lesson to be learned here. In 00:10:21.419 --> 00:10:30.159 September of 2019, on the website TombRaiderForums 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:32.340 .com, the threads were going crazy about the 00:10:32.340 --> 00:10:34.399 game Shadow of the Tomb Raider, which had just 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.700 come out. And in a spoilers thread, a user named 00:10:37.700 --> 00:10:39.899 Tombstone asked why nobody is talking about a 00:10:39.899 --> 00:10:41.620 letter at the end of the game from a character 00:10:41.620 --> 00:10:44.340 named Nautla. Immediately, people started calling 00:10:44.340 --> 00:10:48.000 Tombstone out for lying about this supposed ending 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.279 and saying that Tombstone had fallen victim to 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:51.899 some of the nonsense rumors that were getting 00:10:51.899 --> 00:10:55.179 spread around about not having some involvement 00:10:55.179 --> 00:10:59.159 in the game. Tombstone is on a thread full of 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.460 Tomb Raider fans who have beaten the game and 00:11:02.460 --> 00:11:05.159 know that Tombstone is clearly making this up, 00:11:05.179 --> 00:11:07.080 right? So to anybody who had finished the game, 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.799 they know that that doesn't happen. This backlash 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.340 did not stop Tombstone from continuing, however. 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.000 Tombstone posted a picture of the letter from 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.179 Natla. Immediately, people called him out for 00:11:18.179 --> 00:11:20.279 photoshopping the picture. It was low quality 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.539 and he had taken a picture of the screen with 00:11:22.539 --> 00:11:25.000 his phone, so looking for evidence of photoshop 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:28.200 was not really an option. But people had fun 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.960 with skeptical responses. One of them... responding 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.059 with a picture of Pikachu in the image and saying, 00:11:35.139 --> 00:11:37.460 I found the Pikachu ending. Like, wow. And, you 00:11:37.460 --> 00:11:40.379 know, just making fun of this dude or this person. 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.480 I don't know if it's a man or a woman. So the 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.500 reason why somebody might make something like 00:11:44.500 --> 00:11:47.659 this up is because it would gather a lot of attention 00:11:47.659 --> 00:11:49.539 if somebody had noticed an Easter egg involving 00:11:49.539 --> 00:11:52.960 Nautla that no one else did because Jacqueline 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:55.460 Nautla was the antagonist in the original Tomb 00:11:55.460 --> 00:11:57.779 Raider that came out in 1996 and had not been 00:11:57.779 --> 00:11:59.980 part of the series for over a decade at that 00:11:59.980 --> 00:12:04.200 point. So this would be a major comeback if it 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.440 were teased in the series, right? But this would 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.580 also be a great troll if you could convince other 00:12:09.580 --> 00:12:11.820 people that it was true. Right. I'm going to 00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:14.059 read a little bit of the exchanges here. All 00:12:14.059 --> 00:12:17.299 right. So the exact post from Tombstone reads, 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.360 nobody has brought up the letter Laura gets from 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.639 Natla yet. You know, just to kind of throw it 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:24.620 into the conversation. See if, you know, see 00:12:24.620 --> 00:12:26.159 if you can get people worked up with this kind 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.580 of thing, you know? Sure. So the responses are. 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.379 The very first response is, there's no letter 00:12:31.379 --> 00:12:33.700 from Nautla. It's a photoshopped image and a 00:12:33.700 --> 00:12:37.059 rumor. And somebody says, she doesn't get a letter 00:12:37.059 --> 00:12:41.240 from Nautla. And then more and more. And so Tombstone 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.440 fights back and says, yes, she does, LMAO. I 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.240 have the game unpatched. And the letter says, 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.879 Lady Laura Croft from Jacqueline Nautla. It's 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.740 real. Or are you guys trolling? Somebody said, 00:12:52.860 --> 00:12:56.129 post a screenshot then. And Tombstone responded 00:12:56.129 --> 00:12:59.490 with, I did. Why are you people saying it's fake? 00:12:59.669 --> 00:13:02.230 The fuck? So then that's when somebody responds 00:13:02.230 --> 00:13:08.049 with that Pikachu response. So the person posts 00:13:08.049 --> 00:13:12.169 another photo or posts a photo of their screen 00:13:12.169 --> 00:13:15.809 with that letter on it. And somebody says, could 00:13:15.809 --> 00:13:18.610 be a Photoshopped image. It's just being viewed 00:13:18.610 --> 00:13:22.789 on a TV screen. So that doesn't really prove 00:13:22.789 --> 00:13:24.289 anything. Right. You know, but this person is 00:13:24.289 --> 00:13:27.470 still pushing, still pushing for it. So eventually 00:13:27.470 --> 00:13:30.389 they, they tell the person that they're going 00:13:30.389 --> 00:13:34.870 to, they'll believe them if he can post a video 00:13:34.870 --> 00:13:38.090 of it happening. Right. Okay. So he says, he's 00:13:38.090 --> 00:13:40.190 like, he's like, you know, I don't have the, 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:41.529 you know, I don't have internet. I don't have 00:13:41.529 --> 00:13:44.990 a way to screen cap, you know, whatever. So he's 00:13:44.990 --> 00:13:48.529 using the internet on his phone. Tomb Raider 00:13:48.529 --> 00:13:52.320 forums. is a simple forum website, so it doesn't 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.659 take a lot of loading or anything. So if you've 00:13:54.659 --> 00:13:56.759 got a poor internet connection, it is accessible 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.120 to somebody who may not have a good internet 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:02.220 connection and wouldn't be able to upload easily 00:14:02.220 --> 00:14:06.940 a video of them capturing their gameplay or whatever. 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:12.179 But eventually, he does post a video of it. So 00:14:12.179 --> 00:14:17.490 people respond saying, wow, that proved it. He 00:14:17.490 --> 00:14:21.429 absolutely proved it. He proved this ending that 00:14:21.429 --> 00:14:23.870 nobody else found, nobody else talked about, 00:14:24.090 --> 00:14:27.149 never mentioned by the developers, never mentioned 00:14:27.149 --> 00:14:29.269 by anybody reviewing the game, never mentioned 00:14:29.269 --> 00:14:33.370 anywhere. He proved it, Bobby, by posting that 00:14:33.370 --> 00:14:35.110 video. Yeah, because you can't fake a video. 00:14:35.450 --> 00:14:37.190 That's right. I mean, if you got a video, that's 00:14:37.190 --> 00:14:40.789 concrete evidence right there. But a lot of people 00:14:40.789 --> 00:14:43.590 were like, oh, wow, okay, you proved it. And 00:14:43.590 --> 00:14:47.659 this person responded with a tombstone. responded 00:14:47.659 --> 00:14:50.279 with a much deserved kiss my bubble butt haters 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:55.080 it's a classy response yeah love it though uh 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:59.539 so there were some issues with the event right 00:14:59.539 --> 00:15:02.720 you know so no reviewers had done it the game 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.600 had been out for over a week nobody else found 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:10.279 that ending um and so people started saying well 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.919 the you know even if you had an unpatched version 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:15.919 the patch notes don't even mention changing an 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:17.799 ending to the game. They were like things like, 00:15:17.820 --> 00:15:20.440 you know, fixing, I think, hair physics on Laura 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.960 and adding like a photo mode where you could 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:25.419 like, you know, control the camera and make, 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.639 you know, take photos in the game, stuff like 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.240 that, you know, little patches like that. And 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:30.919 those were in the patch notes, nothing about 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.720 changing the ending of the game. So nothing about 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:38.019 any of that. So this clearly made up video. Yeah. 00:15:38.100 --> 00:15:43.980 So I'm going to read a quote from. The developers 00:15:43.980 --> 00:15:46.759 of the game. During the course of development 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.399 on Shadow of the Tomb Raider, multiple post -credits 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.779 scenes were explored. Unfortunately, one of the 00:15:51.779 --> 00:15:54.220 directions that was considered but not chosen 00:15:54.220 --> 00:15:58.470 was mistakenly included in the game. Tombstone 00:15:58.470 --> 00:16:01.549 was fucking right. Tombstone was telling the 00:16:01.549 --> 00:16:03.169 truth the whole fucking time. He just happened 00:16:03.169 --> 00:16:04.970 to find something that nobody else did. That's 00:16:04.970 --> 00:16:07.889 crazy. Yeah, this weird situation where he's 00:16:07.889 --> 00:16:11.129 the only person on all of the internet who just 00:16:11.129 --> 00:16:13.450 runs into this ending and is like, why isn't 00:16:13.450 --> 00:16:16.250 anybody talking about this? It's because he's 00:16:16.250 --> 00:16:18.490 the only fucking one. But he was right. It was 00:16:18.490 --> 00:16:22.190 true. It got released by mistake, which is a 00:16:22.190 --> 00:16:24.350 huge fucking mistake by the developers. Oh, yeah. 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:27.590 Fucking nuts is that. So it turned out he was 00:16:27.590 --> 00:16:30.090 right the whole time. If I were in that situation, 00:16:30.309 --> 00:16:32.490 I'd be ready to think it was fake. Right. Because 00:16:32.490 --> 00:16:35.009 that would be my, I would respond with fun skepticism. 00:16:35.009 --> 00:16:36.950 You know, like the everybody clapped or cool 00:16:36.950 --> 00:16:38.789 story bro or that kind of thing. Or the Pikachu 00:16:38.789 --> 00:16:41.110 response, you know, stuff like that. Right. People 00:16:41.110 --> 00:16:42.850 were having fun with their skepticism with it. 00:16:42.889 --> 00:16:46.730 But turned out Tombstone, when he told everybody 00:16:46.730 --> 00:16:49.549 to kiss my bubble butt haters, Tombstone deserved 00:16:49.549 --> 00:16:54.600 that. He deserved to say that. Yeah. So. Skepticism 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.779 is generally a good thing. We should approach 00:16:57.779 --> 00:17:00.340 things with some level of critical thinking that 00:17:00.340 --> 00:17:03.220 does not leave us open to grifters that are telling 00:17:03.220 --> 00:17:06.099 us what we want to hear. However, sometimes too 00:17:06.099 --> 00:17:08.539 much skepticism can lead to speculations and 00:17:08.539 --> 00:17:11.339 outright conspiracies, and once again leave us 00:17:11.339 --> 00:17:14.259 vulnerable to grifters. When I say grifters, 00:17:14.299 --> 00:17:16.319 I mean people who are selling you lies in order 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.420 to make money. or make some kind of political 00:17:18.420 --> 00:17:20.500 change, or they're shilling for certain politicians 00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:23.200 or companies, or they're trying to create a narrative 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:27.859 to protect themselves legally. So, you know, 00:17:27.859 --> 00:17:30.059 or we end up hurting people like Tombstone, you 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:32.619 know, who was fucking right the whole time. So, 00:17:32.740 --> 00:17:36.440 I want to address briefly, after the Charlie 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:39.180 Kirk assassination, there were text messages 00:17:39.180 --> 00:17:42.220 that were released that the assassin had allegedly 00:17:42.220 --> 00:17:46.490 sent to his girlfriend. And in this conversation, 00:17:46.690 --> 00:17:51.829 there was evidence, you know, somewhat displaying 00:17:51.829 --> 00:17:56.369 a motive, things like that. Now, this was met 00:17:56.369 --> 00:18:00.789 with a lot of skepticism. And we're talking skepticism 00:18:00.789 --> 00:18:07.690 from both sides. And when the text messages were 00:18:07.690 --> 00:18:11.549 released, I had seen people post and had even 00:18:11.549 --> 00:18:15.839 people say in person. Somebody, I almost said 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:18.420 who, but somebody had said, cool story, bro, 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:20.759 out loud when they were reading them on their 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.759 phone because I had told her about the text messages. 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:28.039 So that is why this whole everybody clapped thing 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.500 is relevant right now. It's because people on 00:18:30.500 --> 00:18:33.099 the right and the left are kind of meeting this 00:18:33.099 --> 00:18:35.980 claim of evidence coming from the FBI with that 00:18:35.980 --> 00:18:38.859 same kind of skepticism. Even though people on 00:18:38.859 --> 00:18:42.180 the right and the left are both skeptical of 00:18:42.180 --> 00:18:44.640 the text message exchange. They have different 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.420 reasons for being skeptical. And they also have 00:18:48.420 --> 00:18:52.220 different theories as to why it would be faked. 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.779 There are people on the left who are saying things 00:18:55.779 --> 00:18:59.319 like, this isn't how a person talks. Right and 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:01.019 left are saying that this is not how a normal 00:19:01.019 --> 00:19:04.200 22 -year -old talks. I would argue a normal 22 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:05.859 -year -old doesn't go and fucking assassinate 00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:09.180 somebody either. So trying to put normal talking 00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:13.650 on a guy who's definitely not normal. That doesn't 00:19:13.650 --> 00:19:15.970 work for me. That does not work for me. That 00:19:15.970 --> 00:19:19.710 is not convincing. But then there are people 00:19:19.710 --> 00:19:22.150 on the right saying that the conversation was 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:26.829 fabricated in order to absolve the trans person 00:19:26.829 --> 00:19:30.930 involved from involvement, to show that they 00:19:30.930 --> 00:19:32.730 weren't involved in the killing and didn't know 00:19:32.730 --> 00:19:34.329 about it when really they were probably behind 00:19:34.329 --> 00:19:38.589 it the whole time. So dumb conspiracies are being 00:19:38.589 --> 00:19:43.279 floated around. When I was reading these text 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:47.480 messages, I was also skeptical. But the conversation 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:49.960 does not feel natural. That doesn't mean anything 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:52.480 to me. Maybe they just talk weird. Also, when 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.039 you're in the situation running from the police, 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.799 who knows how natural your conversation is going 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.900 to sound, right? Right, yeah. So my skepticism 00:19:59.900 --> 00:20:02.240 with the text messages comes from the fact that 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.420 it doesn't come from the fact that he doesn't 00:20:04.420 --> 00:20:05.940 talk like a normal 22 -year -old or anything. 00:20:06.660 --> 00:20:08.539 Some people are saying, like, well, autocorrect, 00:20:08.539 --> 00:20:12.000 there's no... bad autocorrect in there that happens 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:13.940 you know when you're texting in a hurry and stuff 00:20:13.940 --> 00:20:16.640 like that it doesn't come my skepticism doesn't 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:21.160 come from any of that I think my skepticism it 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:24.099 started when I was reading the part where his 00:20:24.099 --> 00:20:26.740 alleged girlfriend is asking you're not the one 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:29.480 who did it are you and he doesn't response with 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.259 yes I'm sorry or yeah I'm sorry he responds with 00:20:32.259 --> 00:20:37.849 I am I'm sorry Again, this is only speculation. 00:20:37.849 --> 00:20:40.509 I want to emphasize the fact that I'm going to 00:20:40.509 --> 00:20:42.410 employ some speculation here. So don't take what 00:20:42.410 --> 00:20:44.750 I'm about to say as fact. If you're a listener, 00:20:44.930 --> 00:20:47.589 don't assume what I'm saying is absolutely true. 00:20:47.750 --> 00:20:52.430 I find these text messages hard to believe because 00:20:52.430 --> 00:20:57.930 the way it started at that, I am, I'm sorry, 00:20:58.089 --> 00:21:02.150 because it reads almost like it was worded exactly 00:21:02.150 --> 00:21:05.359 the way it would need to be worded. if a prosecution 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.859 needed to present it as a confession. Whereas 00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:11.779 if he would have said yeah or yes, there could 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:15.859 have been some speculation as to or possibility 00:21:15.859 --> 00:21:18.299 that he misunderstood or misread the question 00:21:18.299 --> 00:21:21.400 or something like that. But if he says I am, 00:21:21.700 --> 00:21:26.299 then that's self -implicating. And the response 00:21:26.299 --> 00:21:29.640 didn't feel natural to me, of course. Like the 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.529 conversation, none of it does. But my suspicion 00:21:32.529 --> 00:21:36.069 comes from the fact that it reads like it's specifically 00:21:36.069 --> 00:21:40.490 a confession. Right. Then he also describes that 00:21:40.490 --> 00:21:45.309 he did the killing. He explains why. He also 00:21:45.309 --> 00:21:47.529 describes the murder weapon, the fact that he 00:21:47.529 --> 00:21:49.589 hid it, that he was trying to hide from police 00:21:49.589 --> 00:21:52.190 and retrieve the weapon, that he's trying to 00:21:52.190 --> 00:21:57.130 return to his vehicle and escape. He also says 00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:58.970 in the text messages that he's done a good job 00:21:58.970 --> 00:22:02.140 not leaving any evidence behind. And he's taking 00:22:02.140 --> 00:22:03.859 the time to text all this while he's running. 00:22:04.579 --> 00:22:08.119 So, yeah, that and also I think I did a pretty 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:10.279 good job not leaving any evidence behind. As 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:12.359 I type out all the evidence. Yeah, the evidence 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:14.960 right on the phone. Yeah, they can trace all 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:16.980 that. They can see that. Even after you delete 00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:19.880 it, they can get it back. Yeah. And in it, he 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:25.920 says, delete this exchange. Okay. Everybody knows 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.359 you can still find those, right? There's a way 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.339 to find those text messages. I mean, you would 00:22:31.339 --> 00:22:33.839 still probably delete them, right? Well, obviously, 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:35.680 yeah. But you wouldn't think that that would 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.140 fix anything. But then, conveniently, he also 00:22:39.140 --> 00:22:41.920 tells his girlfriend not to show up in the media 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.220 and not to talk to the media, you know, and not 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:46.900 make any public appearances. That's also very 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:48.400 convenient, right? Because we still haven't, 00:22:48.420 --> 00:22:50.859 we don't get to see her, you know? We don't get 00:22:50.859 --> 00:22:54.000 to see this person, this supposed trans person 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:57.119 that they're, you know, that was the secret mind 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.420 behind this, you know. supposedly it's a trans 00:23:00.420 --> 00:23:04.160 person, his girlfriend. Supposedly she's a trans 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:09.400 woman. And supposedly he confessed all this stuff 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.599 to her, including describing the fucking murder 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.819 weapon. And they found, and we are actually going 00:23:14.819 --> 00:23:20.240 to do an episode on trolls and memes, because 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:24.720 there were memes etched into the bullets that 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:28.900 he used to kill Charlie Kirk. Okay. One of them 00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:31.779 was a meme about finding a bulge, you know, between 00:23:31.779 --> 00:23:34.559 somebody's legs. Right. It's an old meme. It 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.900 comes from, I believe, furry culture. And so 00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:41.900 the FBI had come out right away and interpreted 00:23:41.900 --> 00:23:44.559 this as trans ideology because there was a bulge, 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:49.019 you know. So we're going to go into some details 00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:51.220 about memes and stuff like that, you know, because 00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:53.559 we're the meme channel. Well, did he have any 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.670 of our memes on the bullets? No, nothing that 00:23:56.670 --> 00:24:01.789 we've covered, I don't think. But we're going 00:24:01.789 --> 00:24:03.430 to go into detail of that because it is a little 00:24:03.430 --> 00:24:06.069 weird that we haven't addressed and somebody 00:24:06.069 --> 00:24:09.210 was literally killed by memes. So that is something 00:24:09.210 --> 00:24:11.630 that I have been intentionally quiet about because 00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:15.289 of the lack of information that was surrounding 00:24:15.289 --> 00:24:17.829 it. But there is an episode in the works that's 00:24:17.829 --> 00:24:25.119 coming soon. Okay. But I just I find it convenient 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:29.099 that he's described and listed every single thing 00:24:29.099 --> 00:24:32.599 a prosecution would need and conveniently told 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.640 the person he's confessing it all to to never 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.019 show up in media. Right. You know, it's just 00:24:38.019 --> 00:24:45.319 it's I don't buy it. Now, I don't believe that 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.440 this was a complete conspiracy to take out Charlie 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.500 Kirk. I'm not convinced by any of those conspiracy 00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:52.660 theories, and I'd rather not dive into them right 00:24:52.660 --> 00:24:55.880 now. I am just expressing my own skepticism with 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.960 that conversation specifically. That does not 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.119 mean it's not true. It could very much be a real 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:04.319 conversation, but to me it reeks. It really reeks. 00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:06.880 And again, I don't know that it's not true. I 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.940 just know that I began reading the conversation 00:25:08.940 --> 00:25:11.740 with the assumption that it was true, and I ended 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:13.579 reading that conversation with a lot of suspicion. 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.500 That being said, this style of skepticism and 00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:22.450 speculation, responding with humor, memes and 00:25:22.450 --> 00:25:25.509 complete dismissal of the story altogether, it 00:25:25.509 --> 00:25:27.750 has become somewhat of a hallmark of the Internet. 00:25:28.069 --> 00:25:30.710 Looking back at the Internet history, it seemed 00:25:30.710 --> 00:25:35.269 early on people were more willing to, like, people 00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:38.569 were more willing to believe nonsense. And now 00:25:38.569 --> 00:25:43.809 people wear their skepticism almost like a badge 00:25:43.809 --> 00:25:46.369 of honor. You know, like the skepticism is really 00:25:46.369 --> 00:25:49.569 encouraged online now. Yeah. In some cases, almost 00:25:49.569 --> 00:25:52.619 too much. where we're not believing actually 00:25:52.619 --> 00:25:55.380 true things, you know? Myself doing that. Like, 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:57.079 I'll be going through Facebook and be like, I 00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:59.039 don't believe any of this shit. You know, it's 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:00.619 like National Geographic or something like that. 00:26:00.660 --> 00:26:02.359 Like, they're going to lie. I took a picture 00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.460 of my cat in the living room, and as soon as 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:08.359 it popped up after, like, I was looking at it, 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.599 there was a little tweak, a little initial reaction 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.160 of... That's AI. I took the fucking picture. 00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:16.539 And there was still that little, like, check 00:26:16.539 --> 00:26:19.400 for AI, you know? Anything that's too cute or 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.940 too perfect in any way, like, that's fake. Too 00:26:21.940 --> 00:26:24.819 big, too fast, too, like, or, yeah, set up just 00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:28.240 absolutely perfectly. Like, almost, it's most 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.400 images online at this point are AI, it seems 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.660 like. So I had that same little reaction. I took 00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:35.579 the fucking photo, right? I know it's not AI. 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.079 I took it. But that part of my brain, that defense 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.059 mechanism is there now because we're bombarded 00:26:41.059 --> 00:26:43.319 with nonsense. Yeah. And I just don't believe 00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.799 anything anymore. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.799 it become kind of a nihilist, like just because 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.980 of how much fucking fake shit is out there. And 00:26:50.980 --> 00:26:53.799 so like early on in the Internet, a lot of information 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.279 got spread because people were more willing to. 00:26:56.339 --> 00:26:58.079 They were less skeptical when the Internet first 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.380 came about because. Right. They weren't well 00:27:00.380 --> 00:27:02.880 practiced. They hadn't been fooled yet. Yeah, 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:04.440 they hadn't been fooled enough times yet, you 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:08.559 know. And so misinformation got spread, including 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.640 things like how Pepsi was putting out cans that 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.119 had the Pledge of Allegiance on them. And they 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.779 wanted to not put Under God on the cans because 00:27:15.779 --> 00:27:17.819 Pepsi, they're a bunch of heathens, you see. 00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:21.700 That's fucking stupid, right? No company is going 00:27:21.700 --> 00:27:23.400 to take that risk. It's not going to happen. 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:25.619 That's dumb. And it's dumb to believe. But a 00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:27.880 lot of people believed it because they hadn't 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.700 run into. plethora of lies that is on the internet 00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:35.160 right now. They haven't become familiarized with 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:39.220 the amount of bullshit there is. There's a lot 00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:43.579 of bullshit. And especially early on and still 00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:47.799 mostly today, a lot of conspiracy theories and 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.259 nonsense on the internet was the realm of libertarians, 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.720 far right and right wing publications, radio 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.859 shows and the like. What worries me right now 00:27:55.859 --> 00:27:59.960 is that Skepticism has become such a badge of 00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:02.160 honor that we are finding conspiracies showing 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:05.480 up more often on the left. And a lot of it has 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.259 to do probably with the fact that our current 00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:09.539 administration has given us a lot of reason not 00:28:09.539 --> 00:28:13.660 to trust them. And grifters are filling the gaps 00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:18.339 of our skepticism. Our most recent episode, called 00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:20.519 Be Careful With Donald Trump Memes, that I did 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.339 with Dr. Hoda, spoke about how we need to be 00:28:23.339 --> 00:28:26.519 careful with our sources. Even when something 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.500 seems to fit our narrative, even if it's something 00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:32.160 that would support a cause that we fight for, 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.420 you know, that we are pushing or it supports 00:28:35.420 --> 00:28:38.299 our values in some way, we still need to be careful 00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:40.880 with that information because sometimes we could 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:45.160 be the victims of bullshit. Oh, yeah. The reason 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.119 why a lot of people on the right, though, were 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.259 easy targets for grifters selling conspiracy 00:28:49.259 --> 00:28:52.859 nonsense. is because a lot of the information 00:28:52.859 --> 00:28:55.900 from mainstream publications were things that 00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:57.579 people on the right did not want to believe, 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.299 including a lot of very well fact -checked sources. 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.539 So the skepticism gaps on the right were a denial 00:29:06.539 --> 00:29:09.319 of factual reality. So where the grifters get 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.799 to step in is to fill those gaps with convenient 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.880 explanations or stories, fabricated evidence, 00:29:16.099 --> 00:29:19.240 that kind of thing, and stuff that confirms what 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:26.509 the right wing wants to believe. Skepticism is 00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:29.210 good, but an unhealthy over -skepticism leads 00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:32.509 to speculation, like I demonstrated with the 00:29:32.509 --> 00:29:35.309 text messages. Speculation leads to a desire 00:29:35.309 --> 00:29:38.549 for an explanation that is more satisfying. And 00:29:38.549 --> 00:29:41.829 a lot of us like to believe that we are satisfied 00:29:41.829 --> 00:29:46.049 by facts, but what's often the case is, you know, 00:29:46.049 --> 00:29:49.130 especially with online content, is that... People 00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:51.470 have a tendency to seek out not what is real, 00:29:51.569 --> 00:29:53.990 but what verifies what they already want to believe. 00:29:54.789 --> 00:29:57.369 I think it's extremely important that those on 00:29:57.369 --> 00:29:59.230 the left do not fall in the same patterns of 00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:01.990 confirmation -seeking behaviors that can lead 00:30:01.990 --> 00:30:05.029 to weaknesses in our reason that would be targeted 00:30:05.029 --> 00:30:07.950 by grifters just as they were employed against 00:30:07.950 --> 00:30:10.650 people on the right by figures like Alex Jones, 00:30:10.950 --> 00:30:13.970 Turning Point USA, and sadly, Coast to Coast 00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:17.170 AM. I miss the Art Bell days. That show used 00:30:17.170 --> 00:30:21.900 to be fun. So we should keep an open mind to 00:30:21.900 --> 00:30:24.140 the fact that we can be easily wrong, and we 00:30:24.140 --> 00:30:26.420 can be easily fooled, and we should give more 00:30:26.420 --> 00:30:29.200 consideration to the things that we don't want 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.920 to believe. But we should definitely employ skepticism 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.119 when reading clearly made up stories online. 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.400 We should also employ skepticism when we are 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.000 being told by a profoundly corrupt administration 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.039 that the person who killed the friend on the 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.299 right spelled out all the necessary evidence 00:30:46.299 --> 00:30:49.460 in a text message. Or that someone who shot at 00:30:49.460 --> 00:30:53.700 an ICE facility wrote anti -ICE. A phrase no 00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:56.640 one anywhere uses on a bullet with a fucking 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:02.420 pen. But let's also give some grace. As hard 00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:05.559 as it is to believe, maybe people did clap on 00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.380 the bus. But one thing I know for sure, Tombstone 00:31:08.380 --> 00:31:13.960 was fucking right. So what do you think? I think 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:15.339 you got some good points in there. You should 00:31:15.339 --> 00:31:18.559 take everything with a grain of salt. Yes. Yeah, 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:24.039 I think one of the best ways to approach, especially 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:30.119 stories being sold by public figures, is to find 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:34.259 if there are independent sources also corroborating 00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:38.799 that same story. And are they using sources? 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.859 How do they know the information they're selling 00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:44.740 you? That's also very important. Yeah. It doesn't 00:31:44.740 --> 00:31:46.660 it wouldn't take long. Somebody who's constantly 00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:49.680 spouting bullshit like Alex Jones. It wouldn't 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.539 take long to find that a claim that he has made 00:31:53.539 --> 00:31:56.779 is false because sometimes he does use a source, 00:31:56.859 --> 00:31:58.700 but he either didn't read it, doesn't understand 00:31:58.700 --> 00:32:02.279 it or just goes by the headline. Right. And if 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.019 you were to read into things and fact check people 00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:09.619 like that, then you're going to find very quickly 00:32:09.619 --> 00:32:13.210 who the grifters are. who the liars are, the 00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:16.849 ones who can source their information. And when 00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:19.430 you look at those sources, it does verify the 00:32:19.430 --> 00:32:21.690 information. That is more likely to be true. 00:32:22.470 --> 00:32:24.549 Does it guarantee that you're never going to 00:32:24.549 --> 00:32:26.809 be fooled? Does it guarantee that you're not 00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:28.410 going to run into bullshit and somehow believe 00:32:28.410 --> 00:32:33.150 it? No. But it's a healthy skepticism to look 00:32:33.150 --> 00:32:36.509 into things, to try to understand them. So instead 00:32:36.509 --> 00:32:40.410 of doing an immediate backlash where we could 00:32:41.019 --> 00:32:45.380 We could end up having a victim like Tombstone. 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.279 Or instead of just accepting things at face value, 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.980 it's okay to approach things with a healthy skepticism 00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:56.460 and see where the actual evidence is. Because 00:32:56.460 --> 00:32:58.779 there are sources that you can use. There are 00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:01.299 independent sources that can help corroborate 00:33:01.299 --> 00:33:05.519 stories. But the bus stories, a little harder 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.940 to corroborate. Although I think, you know, he 00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:11.140 would have somebody on that bus who could also 00:33:11.140 --> 00:33:12.539 say, oh, yeah, it was there. It happened. You 00:33:12.539 --> 00:33:15.440 know, I don't know. Seems like, I don't know. 00:33:15.819 --> 00:33:22.000 That's stupid. Yeah. Stupid. A little bit. Well, 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.160 thank you all so much for listening. Goodbye, 00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:28.019 everybody. Bye. And then everybody clapped.