America has another round because the young lions are coming.
The word of the Lord for 2025 is that we as the body of Christ are to storm Babylon.
It could be a sign and a wonder or it could start to be the fulfillment of actual end time prophecy.
The church is in danger of being defeated by victory. Church is the nuclear deterrent.
I think we already would be in a nuclear war. I believe if we get to July before those things
would really take full effect, I believe we're going to have the footing to go through the next
part they throw at us. Joseph Z, it's always a pleasure to have you here on Charisma. We're
going to be talking about what God is saying for the year 2025, but we have the privilege of
recording in the past what God was saying for 2024, what God was saying about this do-over year.
There's a lot of things that God has spoken to you historically, even recently, that we want to kind
of look back at that stuff first before we launch into what God is saying for 2025. So Joseph,
welcome back. Oh man, John, it's always such a privilege to be with you and the Charisma family.
You guys are just amazing. I got a chance to see Chad earlier too, and all you guys are just
remarkable. I'm just so grateful to you and Steve and everybody. Thanks for having me, brother. I
look forward to getting into this with you. Amen. Amen. So let's talk about some of these
previous words that you've had. I mean, 2024, we've talked, we've touched base about this a
few times about it being a do-over year. In some ways we've seen the same baseball teams won
the championship in 2020 and 2024. The Chiefs, yeah. The Chiefs, you know, winning the Super Bowl,
the Dodgers winning the World Series. There was a lot of things that were kind of this do-over
thing. Let's talk about that just a little bit. Well, you know, sometimes the natural things we
see, they speak of the invisible. You know, this natural world is an extension of the spirit world.
And so when you see things that are trying to manifest in the culture, manifest in society,
good or bad, many times it's a representation of what's going on in the spirit realm. And so you
see these things and that really showed that God was speaking and he'd been speaking to many prophets,
speaking to us. And so the do-over word, I'm going to get a running start at this because
all the way back, John, in 2015, the Lord sent me to Trump Tower. I was in Trump Tower in Chicago.
And as I was there, the Lord began to speak to me about what was coming for America, all that.
And I said, Lord, is Trump going to win this election and all this? And the Lord really
didn't give me the grace to know if he was going to win or not. But he told me, I've called you to
pray for this man. I said, okay. I said, well, what's going to happen to America? Is America
going down? And the Lord answered me and said, no, America has another round because the young
lions are coming. And then he actually showed me, watch Lance Wallna and you'll know who's going to
win. And I said, okay. So I watched Lance. He won. So shortly after that, then we see in 2016,
the election, 2020 comes around. Spirit of Lord says to me in 2019 through an angelic visitation,
very clearly, the angel didn't appear to me, but I heard this voice roar in the room. And he said
very clearly that the great God, Jehovah does not need you as much now, but he needs you after the
2020 election. And then shortly on the heels of that, I woke up two different times into a vision
where I saw Trump not win in the public eye. I saw him not win. And the Lord said it was through a
technology. That's the voice I heard. He will lose by a technology. I said, okay. So when I prophesied
that, John, I got to tell you, many people left, they didn't want to be around our ministry. It was
not an encouraging word for people. Then you fast forward up to this time. And then the Lord showed
me that this coming year, this 24 would be a do-over year of 2020. Like you mentioned, so many
of the things that you're talking about. And then I began to get words such as there's going to be
a shot heard around the world. I released that word in June. Then the morning that Trump got shot
in the ear eight hours beforehand, live on my broadcast, I said, I hear the words, a shot is
going to be heard around the world. And it's going to be like a Paul Revere anointing for people to
bring the word of God forward and start ministering and going out. And there's going to be truth
revealed. And it's going to be this thing. And the Lord kept speaking to me about, I'm going to do
a thing in your day that you wouldn't believe if it was told to you, meaning with the election
and where we were going in the fall time. And I kept asking him, is Trump going to win? Is Trump
going to win? And like, we don't try to make everything all about Trump, but I got to tell
you, he was a key figure for this time. And I kept asking the Lord, Lord, what are you showing me?
And he said, as I showed you in 2020, that he would lose by a technology, he will win based on
if the church shows up, I have placed this in the hands of the church. So that's one of the things
I began to see. Now here we are in this cycle where we're going forward, this do over word,
he faced off against a woman, just like he did in 2020, rather 2016. You see all these things
happening, this do over narrative just keeps happening. And now I believe he's going to finish
what he started. He's got unfinished business with Israel. He's got unfinished business with fixing
and right sizing this nation. And I believe he is the catalyst to bring forth this word I have about
the young lions coming, and there will be one more round coming for the nation. And so there's so much
with this. But when 2020 broke out during the pandemic and all that, John, the Lord spoke to
you with the lion, the bear, and we would face Goliath. I believe with this victory we've seen
in November, I believe that is like a stone has just hit Goliath's head. But the issue is now we
have to go and finish the job. We must go and take the sword and remove the head off the giant,
because we need to go forward into the future head first. Amen. We got to get ahead in life.
Right. And so anyway, that being said, I see all these things that are taking place.
And the Lord is speaking to me very clearly about what is to come. And I sense because of this do
over because of the way the Lord has done things, there is unfinished business that needs to take
place. And I got to tell you, I believe we're going into a time of generational quaking and
generational building. And so just recently, you know, this this new Superman trailer comes out,
right? And I got a lot of things I can share about that I'm looking at and praying through.
But this new Superman trailer comes out and Superman craters into the ground of the snow
and ice in the beginning of this trailer. I'm watching this movie trailer and the spirit Lord
begins to speak to me and said, pay attention to this. So I'm watching this movie trailer, John,
and I start crying while I'm watching it because he craters in the ground. He's got blood coming
out of his mouth. He's all beat up. He's wheezing. And suddenly he begins to whistle in this trailer.
And then his dog, Crypto, comes to help him. This this snow's flying, the dog's running,
and he comes there and he says, home, take me home, rescue me. Basically, Superman gets rescued. And
the Lord spoke to me and said, that is America. That is the United States of America. That is the
leadership of the church right now. That is many people that have been outcasts about to be turned
into broadcasts. They've been persecuted and things are taking place. And so when this took place
in this trailer, I prophesied that just a few days back, two or three days later, James Gunn,
the guy who made the movie, comes out and says, I don't know why I'm saying this, but he went on Fox
News and said, I believe this trailer represents the United States of America. This is America.
And it has to do with America being defeated under a time of difficulty, all beat up, but rescuing and
help is coming. And the Lord had spoke this to me. Now, like I said, the natural sometimes speaks of
the invisible. There are things trying to get spoken into the culture from the spirit. And many
times God will use popular culture. He'll use things to speak into the realm of the natural.
And so I've seen this happening and I see these things unfolding, but the Lord showed me this.
As soon as Trump won in November, the word of the Lord came to me and said, here is what we are in
danger of right now. The church is in danger of being defeated by victory. They're in danger of
being defeated by victory because although we've seen this good thing happen, we've seen light,
shine and darkness. And in my opinion, the good guys have won. The bottom line is suddenly there's
a nefarious supernatural force that's been released into the nation. It's been released into the world.
It's a form of witchcraft. It's a form of Jezebel. It's a form of deviant voices, prophetic deviant
voices. And all these things that are coming forward are trying to manipulate what's happened.
And here's why I think that is, and this is the prophetic thing I've been praying into,
is number one, darkness did not believe John, it did not believe it was going to lose.
It believed Kamala was going to win. It believed it had a stranglehold on this nation and the
nations and our future generations. When you got these wicked perverts like the WEF, the World
Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab, the Bond villain who's saying, you will eat bugs and you will love
it. You will do these things and you will do what I tell you to do. You got all this mess going on.
You're going to all nothing and you will love it. That kind of stuff is the spirit that thought it
was going to seize the day in November and it did not. The light beat the darkness. It put darkness
on its heels to such a level that I don't believe John darkness knew what to do. It was so taken
back. It didn't even know how to respond. And there was a strange lull in the spirit for a couple
weeks. There was like a lull. It was almost as if time or something in the spirit just got quiet.
It was just still for a moment and then suddenly it started to tick up again. And suddenly you see
drones everywhere. Suddenly you see the threat of nuclear war. Suddenly you see all this chaos
happening all over. And the reason this is happening is because darkness got put on its heels
and it doesn't know what to do. It has no idea what to do. So now it's acting out in desperation
and lashing out. So that's what I saw. But here's the danger for the church. We've seen victory.
Now the supernatural forces are being released and what we've got to do is rise up in prayer and do
what the Ecclesia does best. Push back the gates of hell. We need to push back the gates of hell
and not shrink back and go, praise God, we've had a victory. Let's just watch what happens next. No,
we need to get very, very proactive. One of the things I've seen, John, in quarter one and quarter
two is this ongoing threat of nuclear war or this ongoing threat of a nuclear blast. As I
have talked with you about, I believe before, I saw a vision where I woke up in the middle of the
night or late at night and I suddenly saw this bus and I was on this bus and I'm looking at it
and I saw a flash in the distance, but we were in a mountainous or foothill type region heading
towards a city. And I'm looking at everybody and it was as if everybody got under dread. They knew
something was about to be released and the air was strange and it was a strange moment and there was
a flash and then heat came and I felt intense heat on my skin. That's the second time I've ever seen
that. The first time was with Hawaii and then those fires happened in Hawaii, but I still believe
there's a nuclear threat for Hawaii one day and I believe I saw a nuke. The Lord spoke to me as
soon as I woke up from that and said, the church is the nuclear deterrent. The body of Christ is
the nuclear deterrent. And I got a witness in my spirit that said, if we can go through quarter one
and quarter two of this coming year without a nuclear incident or even if there is a small
nuclear incident, we can still have the grace of God get us over that. And then we would go to July.
And if we get to July without a nuclear incident, without some of these things taking the nation
down, I believe we're going to begin to see the turn of the tide completely where we will see
another run for our generation, our children's children, should the Lord tarry and not return.
I believe that we will see a long generational run here. I believe we're up to 16 years
of redemptive instability where we'll see a turnaround and victory come. I believe we can
see 20 years of life that begins to build and rebuild to the year 2040. I believe God has a
marker on that year. Now, Jesus could return right now. We could see many things begin to happen
right now where the Lord would say, my goodness, the trumpet's blasting, he's coming back. He can
do that right now. But the sense I have in the spirit is if the church keeps rising and we keep
pushing back these nefarious powers and we keep allowing the gospel of Jesus Christ to go around
the world and we keep preaching the good news and we keep preaching the word of God all over the
world, what's going to happen is I believe we will stay off some of this nefarious stuff for
another cycle. Now, it could change. We could see it come our way if the church shrinks back.
We know Matthew 16 says the gates of hell will not prevail against the church, the Ecclesia.
And as long as we're standing, we can push this stuff back. So I saw a number of things, John,
that I believe is very important and I can go into them if you'd like. I can go down the road.
Yeah, please.
Okay. So what I saw is this, first of all, in 2020, in March of 2020, right before the pandemic
happened, I heard these words. I stood up on a platform and prophesied that what I see coming
is the lion, the bear, and Goliath is coming. I believe the lion and the bear have come in the
form of intimidation, economic crisis, all this stuff. There's more economic crisis to come,
but Goliath is coming. And I believe with November, what happened? I believe we struck him in the head
as I just said, we have to remove his head and finish the job. I believe Goliath is at the one
yard light. He's standing at the door and we have to finish the job now. Now, seeing that,
I believe the church is in danger of being defeated by victory. But then the Lord spoke to me about
this word that I heard in my spirit called the arrows of warning. Pay attention to the arrows
of warning. I said, okay, what's this about, Lord? And this word came to me out of second Kings,
chapter 13. It's the narrative where Elisha is on his deathbed. He's 90 something years old,
according to many commentators. Elisha is there. He's on his deathbed. And then King Joash comes
and wants to meet with the prophet because he's having issues. He's trying to get victory over
his enemies. He comes and meets with Elisha, the prophet. And during that time, as he walks in,
John, the first thing King Joash says is my father, my father, and the horsemen thereof.
He quotes back to Elisha, which was the protege of Elijah, quotes back to him what he said when he
saw his father, his mentor taken up into heaven. One of the things that Elisha was experiencing
is a king that was coming to him with nostalgia. He's saying, I know this happened in your lifetime.
I love the story. And is this going to happen now? There was a nostalgic moment, but he was coming
for help. And then Elisha said, okay, here's what you're going to do. Take your bow, point it out
the Eastern window, string it back, pull it back, and release an arrow out the East window. Elisha,
when he saw him do this, put his hands on the king's hands and did a prophetic act. They did this.
But then a peculiar thing happened right on the heels of this, John. Elisha says to King Joash,
take a handful of arrows, go down, and strike the ground. And he didn't tell Joash how many times
he should do this. He didn't tell Joash you should do it X amount of times. He did not give him
a paint-by-numbers prophecy explaining exactly what he should do. Instead, Joash said, okay,
I'm going to do it. He took the arrows, gets down, strikes the ground three times, and stands back
up. Elisha looks at him, became very angry, and said, you should have struck the ground five or
six times, and then you would have completely annihilated your enemies. Now you will only defeat
them three times. And the Spirit of the Lord spoke to me and said, much like Joash, the church is stuck
in the still just saying, my father, my father, and the horsemen thereof, I want to have revival,
I want to have memories of the former days with you, prophetic voice of God or just the Lord.
I want to have experiences that I once had that you had, and I want to live in nostalgia. And then
please help me with this thing I got going on. And the church is saying, let's have victory.
They fire the arrow out the eastern window, and then the prophet says to them or to Joash,
you strike the ground. He didn't tell him how many times. He simply told him you do this.
And it must have been lackadaisical. It must have not have been in the faith required to meet the
enemy. It was not something that impressed the prophet because he basically did the minimum
amount required. In other words, he was phoning it in. There was not faith. There was not aggression.
There was not let's do this. Let's finish the job. And because of it, the prophet rebuked him and
said, you'll have victory, but it'll be minimal. I believe the word to the church right now is keep
striking with the arrows. Keep striking, keep pushing back the darkness, continue striking
until the enemies are vanquished. Because the word of the Lord for 2025 is that we as the body of
Christ, the ecclesia, are to storm Babylon. I want everybody to hear this right now. If you're in the
church, we are to storm Babylon. Well, what does that mean? It means we are to continue rising in
prayer, pushing back this nefarious agenda of witchcraft, darkness, social evils, this woke
ideology, this control over our economics, this wickedness that's happening with an invasion
of our nation, all the things that are unfolding that have happened over the last four plus years.
We now need to drive it up. And we're going to see that we are storming Babylon when things like
the Epstein list get released and revealed, when things like the Diddy list get released,
and then many other things are advanced and released. We will know we are storming Babylon
as a sign and wonder when suddenly we begin to see a forfeit against foreign adversaries buying up
American soil. I believe we will see a sign happening when there's a form of imminent domain,
John, that comes against these guys and says, no, get out. You're not allowed to be here. And
they are thrown out by imminent domain, like Sarah Huckabee Sanders started to do. I believe we will
see that that will be a sign. I believe if we get through quarter one and quarter two without a
nuclear incident and we get to July, I believe we're going to see the turn of the tide happening
for what's taking place in this nation. Now, a number of things that I've experienced and
seen with the storming of Babylon is this. We are now going to see warfare over gatekeeping platforms
of media, gatekeeping platforms with legacy media. We're going to see warfare over gatekeeping
platforms in the Christian media realms. And I got to tell you, it is absolute Jezebelian.
It is absolutely a spirit of the Antichrist. It is a spirit wanting to crush gates of influence
to bring truth to the culture. And I'm telling you, a lot of the church is playing right into it,
and it is horrible and evil. And what we need to do is keep rising up in faith, preaching the gospel
and letting the Lord deal with his people. He is head of the church. This is so important.
One of the things I began to see and I'm praying about this is I saw two forms of deviant prophetic
voices that are going to manifest more and more. Two deviants, two types. One, there's the John the
Baptist type, which, you know, we both know that the John the Baptist type is great. We want John
the Baptist to rise up. We want John the Baptist to stand up and offend the institutions and shake
them to repentance. He's a deviant. It's what he does. He doesn't fit in well. He doesn't play well
with others. But then there's a second type of deviant prophetic voice. Those that are prophesying
out of their own soul, out of their own ideology, and out of their own worldview. And that is wrong.
And when you begin to do that, you're doing a form of gainsaying. You're bringing out your own
soulish prophetic words out of your own offenses or your own agenda. And here's what that causes.
It causes wandering. It causes wandering. One is a deviant that's uncomfortable for the church
and uncomfortable for the world. John the Baptist, he calls him out. He's a deviant.
It's not necessarily evil to be a deviant. You're just not comfortable. You don't fit in.
But the other kind of deviant will begin to prophesy from their own soul and try to push agendas,
guising it as prophecy. And it'll cause wandering. People will buy in and they will wander,
because that's one of the things false prophetic words do. They cause people to wander and they
never hit their destination. They get caught up in some kind of sensationalism or ideology.
They go to war on the wrong mountain. And it causes them to expend all their energy on
conspiracies, expend all their energy on running in circles and attacking the wrong thing when they
should be focused on the gospel and they should be hearing the pure word of the Lord. And this is a
time for people to discern. So I see that as a thing that'll come if the church doesn't stand up
and do what they're supposed to do. But again, over this warfare of gatekeeping platforms,
this involves a legacy TV, legacy media. It involves all these things. And you're going
to see the change of hands happen over and over again, I believe going into this year
on different platforms. One of the things the Lord showed me about two and a half years ago is that
Elon Musk would buy Twitter. I wrote it on the whiteboard. I saw this becoming a form of freedom
tech. And when freedom tech happened, it was going to create pressure on many other platforms and
they would have to fall in line with it. And you're seeing that on social media. Now it's starting to
trickle into the mainstream media and trickle into the legacy media spaces. So I believe that's going
to happen. But there's spiritual warfare that the church needs to be attuned to and praying over
to stop any form of wrong warfare, taking down the wrong kind of leadership. And the Spirit of God is
saying, this is not His will. We need to stand up and we need to pray and we need to intercede.
And many people not being apprised to real circumstances need to close their mouth and
let the Spirit of the Lord do what He does best, be head of His church and run the whole show that
way. So that's one thing I see also. Then I see the area of Israel and America. Back in 2020,
I had a vision about the angel of red, white and blue standing in America. And the angel of red,
white and blue was standing there and it was alone. But then I saw the angel of white and blue
standing and the Lord spoke to me about America and Israel and how America treats Israel going
into this next season will determine the longevity of this nation. And I believe with Trump going
back in, we are going to see a good relationship between America and Israel again. Now listen,
whatever Israel's politics are, whatever their moral compass is in their nation with all the
liberal ideology and wokeism and all the stuff that we don't appreciate as believers really has
nothing to do with the covenant God made with the land. And this is the part that's hard for people
is the bottom line is although every individual is responsible to Jesus Christ as their savior,
whether they're Jew, Gentile, whatever, you need to know Jesus and you need to repent and come to
Jesus. But Israel as a nation has a covenant with God and the land has a covenant with God.
And when you begin to violate that covenant, it's not about how good the people are being in the
land. It's about the covenant God made with the land. And there's a big difference here. You got
to recognize that. So this is where nations get in trouble. They're like, well, we're going to go
against Israel. I'm telling you, you don't want to do that. And America as it stands with Israel and
with Jerusalem, there's going to be a prophetic blessing on this nation that the Lord showed me
would be very, very powerful. And so John, I see a number of things happening by way of miracle
in the economy. I see oil miracles. I see a number of things God wants to do this coming year. And
there's more I could go into, but that's some of the snapshot of what I'm seeing for 2025 and beyond.
Yeah. So I remember in the past, you've used your whiteboard and you've talked about this,
you've drawn this line and it goes down 30, 60, a hundred. And there's this tornado thing there.
But then there's a, there's a time of, I guess that's redemptive instability. And then it goes
up 30, 60 and a hundred. That's right. Are you seeing that we're in that 30, 60, a hundred going
back up right now? Where do you see this playing out in relation to what God's saying about?
I see us at the bottom of the part where we go down from 30, 60 to a hundred fold into the valley.
I see us hitting the valley, the bedrock. I think the most fiery parts of what's going to come next
have not happened yet. I think that we're going to see a great challenge, but from that great
challenge will come victory. So the tornado and the storm and the difficulty, we're either entering
it or we're in it. And I believe that July is going to be a major milestone for what's going
to happen. So it is my sense that as we're at the beginning of the year and we come to July,
if we don't see a nuclear event, if we don't see one that really impacts America,
one of the big concerns I keep seeing is this solar flare narrative. I see this over and over
again when I pray and that they're going to use real solar flares as a false flag for them to do
some nefarious things with our technology involving hacking, involving EMP activity,
involving things where they could bring down whole networks or social media.
And I believe if we get to July before those things would really take full effect,
I believe we're going to have the footing to go through the next part they throw at us.
And by they, I'm talking about those that don't want to be unseated over at the World Economic
Forum, those that don't want to be unseated at the WHO, those that don't want to be unseated
at the United Nations, and those that don't want to be unseated in the current Manchurian
administration that we're talking about right now. So I believe that if we can just continue
to drive forward with what God's called us to do, July will be a tent peg. It will be a turning
point. It'll be a stalwart. It'll be something that we recognize. We've come through a lot and
now we can begin to build forward. That's what I sense powerfully. That to me would be looking at
the possibility of coming out or into that valley where we start seeing the 30 mark to go up again.
Okay. Wow. Yeah. Thanks for giving us an update on where we are on that time.
Well, John, 26, 26, I keep hearing this word, 26 is a year of pick up sticks. And if 26 is a year of
pick up sticks, I believe if we do this right and the church continues to rise, it is contingent on
what the church does. If we get to 26 and we're doing it, the church is showing up the way it
showed up in November, then I believe 2026 will be Psalm 126. 2026 will be Psalm 126, that what we
sowed in tears, we will reap in songs of joy. And just like Superman whistling in that video,
because Superman in the 1940s, they gave him the subtitle or the three phrase name that went with
him or just identifier that says for truth, justice, and the American way, truth, justice,
and the American way. And I believe that is what we're headed towards. And 26, I think is really
Psalm 126. If we can see it where the righteous have cried, they've sown in tears, they'll reap
with songs of joy. And we are going to literally be like those who dreamed and say, my goodness,
could this really be, could this be happening? And the Lord is saying, if you will, if you'll do this,
if you'll line up with me, if you won't fall for this deviant stuff, but you continue to drive
forward in a spirit of faith, we're going to have great days in front of us. I really believe that.
Yeah, that's, you're not the first person I've heard about 26, the Psalm 126. There's something
on that for sure. But you mentioned something about Israel earlier, and I just was reminded
of something that happened in my life. I remember where I was, I forget the exact date, whenever I
heard that there was some sort of a map that the Trump administration had made, where there was
some sort of a two state solution. I was actually a television producer for a Christian network in
Pittsburgh at the time. I was in the green room when we had this, when we were talking about this.
And I believe it was the guest that said, there's something very interesting. He said, that is going
to bring a curse upon the world. And it was that night, I believe that I was tuning into the epic
times. And I was started hearing about these people in Wuhan falling over from this, this virus.
And so how about that? I mean, it might have in actuality laid out a slightly different,
but for me, everything correlated to that one day when the United States put its hand on the land
of Israel. What is God saying to you about Israel a little bit deeper here? I feel like there's more.
Soterios Johnson Absolutely. I believe very strongly, John, that the Lord, you see you got
this Damascus thing where they're falling, Damascus fell, all that, Syria. Then you've got people
reaching out to me even about the, the river Euphrates. And you see all these signs that are
taking place. Now, one thing I want to say about Damascus and the river Euphrates is this,
it could be that we're getting so close to the end. Okay. And I believe this correlates with Israel.
We're getting so close to the end, we see all these things happening, or it's what the
Latin word sensus plenior means. And this, this, this word in the Latin, it means a deeper,
fuller meaning. In other words, sometimes the natural is crying out about things that are happening
in the spirit even before it's truly prophetic time. So I was over in Turkey standing at the
river Euphrates. I was looking at it, and this was just about six months ago, eight months ago,
then I'm standing there looking at it. And I realized this is biblical. You know, it's,
it's draining, it's drying up. It's, it's from some militarized action. A lot of things are happening
with it. And I began to seek the face of the Lord over this. And the bottom line is I think like
every generation, if we do our part, it can only, it could be a sign and a wonder, or it could start
to be the fulfillment of actual end time prophecy where we step into it. So I believe that is true
of Israel also, how America treats Israel and what begins to happen there is very serious. Now,
there's so many people, as we said earlier, that they're negative on Israel. They're like,
wow, you got to be spiritual Jews and you got to be this, you got to be that. It is so, so,
um, ridiculous to say those things. When you look at the promises God made with the actual territory,
with the land in scripture. And when you look at that, that is when you start to go, oh, wait a
second, God's covenant with that nation is different than God's covenant with his church.
It's different than God's covenant with America, for example. I believe George Washington held
America up and said, I'm making a covenant with you, God, over this land. I think that's why we've
had supernatural victory after victory when we should have never survived. But Israel's different.
It's the apple of God's eye. He chose it and that's the bottom line. So whether there's
immorality running around in Israel, people are misbehaving, all that, God has a covenant with
that land more than any other land in this, this world. And we've got to recognize that. And so
how we treat that land, or if we decide, like you're saying, to split it up or do what we're
going to do and just go in through geopolitical ideology, we are going to find either judgment
or blessing based on that. So my sense about Israel with the United States, with Trump going in,
is I believe he's going to get an opportunity, a do-over to finish what he started with
righteousness. And I'm telling you, I think we're going to see a good thing happen.
Now, if it doesn't, praise God, Jesus is coming soon and we're going to begin to be out of here
sooner than we think and stuff's coming. But I have a sense that it's an opportunity to do
the right thing. You know, there's a whole interesting narrative. I don't know if people
know this, but several years were put into the reconstructing of a exact replica of the Ark of
the Covenant. And when these people reconstructed it with every detail and they took years, made of
gold, made of all the substances that the Ark of the Covenant was made from, they began to get it
ready to go to Israel. But during the time of construction and its finishing, they had to have
a holding place for it for a very long period of time. And here's the craziest part, John,
you probably know this, but the Ark of the Covenant that they reconstructed was kept at Mar Lago.
They kept it at Mar Lago until they brought it over there. Now, without going into this,
I know some other narratives about the Ark of the Covenant and some things that I've heard
rumblings about and prophetic things I've been reached out to because I've seen things about it.
And I got to tell you, I believe that there's a prophetic significance about this. And the fact
that it was there and it's going over there, I believe the Lord is doing something magnificent
that I think is going to blow everyone away. And I like to say this because everybody
has their idea. Opinions are a lot like noses. Everybody has one, but it might have a couple
of holes in it. And so the bottom line is like over with Israel, when you're seeing the events
that are unfolding, I always go back to the first time Jesus came. The first time Jesus came,
the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the experts of the law, they all missed it. And they knew the Word
of God. They knew the prophecies. They knew what was supposed to happen with Jesus coming or the
Messiah. They thought he was going to go take over Rome and do all these things. And they weren't
incorrect. They were just incomplete. They were correct. They just weren't complete.
They didn't see the whole picture. And so I believe if it happened the first time that way,
now granted we have the Holy Spirit, we have discernment on these things, different.
We have the completed canon. But the bottom line is they saw it one way and the early people back
then in the time Jesus showed up, they didn't call it appropriately. Even the people Jesus
called to himself, they could barely figure it out until the Holy Spirit came. Okay. Even Peter
Peter finally said, you're the Christ, the son of the living God. And he said, that's it, Peter.
That's it. Now you know the truth, but man didn't reveal this to you. My father revealed it to you
through revelation. And upon this revelation, I'm going to build my church and the gates of hell
will not prevail against it in Mark 16. But what I'm saying is, is that is the same thing that's
happening right now. If it happened that way, that people didn't fully understand the first coming of
Jesus or interpret everything perfectly. We see today, everybody's either pre, mid, post, whatever,
they're all over the place with it. They're pantheology, whatever it is, right? They're
not interpreting things the right way. So when I look at Israel, I look at where we are on the
scope of biblical events in the end times. Yes, there are things being fulfilled, but we also have
to take a very big grain of salt and be humble because we need to realize some of the experts of
the law didn't get it right the first time. And we're here on the last of the last days,
but I believe census pleinir says we could have a deeper, fuller meaning. We could be seeing
prophetic events manifesting that will continue to manifest. And they'll kind of be like they
repeat themselves over and over again until the Lord actually returns. So John, it could be,
could be that although we're at the last of the last days and Jesus could return right now,
while we're on this broadcast, he could, we could also be seeing a very long season of time in
front of us. So we need to build like it. We need to work like it. We need to honor the Lord Jesus
in this time that we're living. That's what I believe. That's something we always need to do
is honor the Lord Jesus in the time that we are living. And we can't just look to the past,
see what people have done and live on their, live on their foundation. We can't just look into the
future and say, it's going to all be good. We are the people that God has called for us to live today
that needed act and occupy until he comes. So that's, I think that's one of the things that
you were mentioning earlier is that, you know, if the church does what we have called it, what we
are called to do, we will see these things happen. It's an if then statement. And it goes back to the
second Chronicles seven 14. If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray,
then I will hear from heaven and I will heal their, or they turn from their wicked ways.
I will hear from heaven and I will heal their land. So we have an opportunity to do what God
has called us to do. And today is the day of that opportunity. Yep. And we better stand with Israel.
You know, when you're talking about Israel, I'll tell you one thing we need to know. You can watch
prophetic events by watching Israel, but you know, no man knows the day or time or the hour, any of
that stuff we know only the father in heaven knows when the end is actually coming or when Jesus is
coming back or all of it. But what we got to do is we do get to keep watching. We got to keep
discerning. We got to keep recognizing Jesus is coming soon, but that soon has been 2000 years in
the making. He said, I'm coming soon. I come quickly. And that's 2000 years ago. And every
generation believes they're there, but Israel really is the barometer. It's the compass. It's
the marker that we got to watch these things by. Absolutely. You know, Joseph, as I was just
wondering, is there anything else that you feel that you're at liberty to share about 2025?
Okay. I'll share the things that have been released to share because there are things I pray about,
you know, that we know that we just got to obey the Lord with, but I'll tell you,
one of the things I saw is this. I saw an economic miracle after a downturn and I've been seeing this
for some time. The only crypto the Lord has ever showed me was XRP and that could go up. It could
crash. It could come back. But I've seen that over and over again. And let me just say to everybody,
when you hear prophetic things about stuff and people say, didn't you know that Kim Clement
prophesied about that too? I didn't know that until recently, but about three years ago, I was
writing on the board and I said, of all the cryptos, I've only seen XRP. And then I tell people,
don't go investing in this unless the Holy Ghost tells you to do it because, you know, I'm not a
financial expert here, but I'm just simply saying what I've seen that could mean it crashes and
comes back. But I've seen that there's something involving XRP that I think will have longevity
to it. That's all I know. I'm going to say this also, the economic miracle is going to be based
on oil. This is something I've seen for a few years now, oil. It's going to be based on new
inventions. It's going to be based on witty ideas that begin to happen. And I believe the Lord's
going to do something magnificent. We're going to see some downturning. We're going to see some
shaking in the housing market. We're going to see all that. And we're going to see a correction
come for sure. But in that, I think it's going to be either a difficult landing or a devastating
landing. I think it's going to be a little difficult for a season, but then I think a
revival is coming economically. And that's something that's coming. The statement about
foreign land, you know how China's buying up land and they're buying up and making police stations
all across the nation in different cities. I believe that is going to be ejected. I have a
sense that if we continue to pray, one of the things I see is a forfeit of that or a form of
imminent domain on a governmental federal level where they say, sorry, you go against the principles
of our land. We cannot tolerate this. And I see a form of imminent domain where they send them away,
send them packing from the ground they are trying to possess. I see the deportation narrative.
I see a number of things with property and land for people where they lost it being reversed and
coming back to them. There's a miracle for land with people in 25, but 26. I see that. Another
thing, and I'll just say this very quickly, is I see a water crisis trying to rise and I see the
Lord giving wisdom to people. And I prayed into this. I see the Lord giving wisdom to those in
power to begin to avert that or correct it. But there's a water crisis coming. In addition to
this cyber warfare. Can I just pop in here a second? Just because you talked about this water
thing last year. Yeah. And I find it very interesting that what we're starting to see with
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., R. F. K. Jr. coming out against fluoride being in the water. I think this
is part of that fulfillment. I mean, as I've seen, I mean, there's an area here in Florida that
they say we are no longer going to have fluoride in the water. And there are areas that are going
to do this as well. And so keep the water free. It might not just be the cost. It might be keep
the water free of these other contaminants or these other chemicals. That's powerful.
I'm happy to hear that about Florida too, because that kind of stuff is truly evil to poison people
that way. And so that's good news, John. I did not know that. Thank you for sharing that. I also see
this thing about cyber warfare and they're going to start to find correction. The big watchword for
this coming year is going to be Willow. Willow. This Google quantum computing chip and their
abilities with it. There's so much more to this that I feel like is going to get unveiled. And
I don't know, just shown to the public or pieces are going to come out that they'll say,
I didn't know this. Wow, my goodness. I didn't know about this. It's been in my spirit so strong
about Willow that they're going to be able to, as they're saying, contact other dimensions,
communicate with them and do all this stuff. But that goes in line with this word I've had for
months now about the tear in the fabric of reality. We're going to see more and more of that. AI is
going to get so powerful through Willow and things like it that we won't be able to determine what is
real and fake when they present it through this type of tech. And that's just over the next few
months even. And then finally, I'll just share this. I believe we're going to see extreme weather,
record breaking extreme weather on a variety of fronts. If it has the label weather on it,
it's going to be extreme in one way or another. And then a big thing I keep hearing is this solar
flare narrative. Every time I pray and I look in the future, solar flares keeps coming to me.
Then I believe solar flares is going to be used as a false flag where it may be a real solar incident,
but they're going to use it for their purposes. And again, we've identified who they is.
But the bottom line is solar flares, I believe they could do all kinds of nefarious activity with it,
such as destroying cell communication, grids, power, all of it. There's a lot of things that
will shake and then the day will come when the satellites are in the news, satellites, satellites,
satellites, and it'll be involved with hacking. And I believe that they're going to find answers
for all this though. This would have been detrimental. I think we already would be in
a nuclear war had Kamala won. But the fact that she didn't, I believe we're averting, we're diverting,
we're going around this and the church is the nuclear deterrent. The church is the deterrent
of all these anti-Christ plagues that want to break loose on a variety of fronts. I think the UFO
narrative is going to get more and more extreme until finally they have ultimate disclosure where
we see one, it speaks, something happens, meaning an entity. And the bottom line is all of it is
evil, nefarious, it's deception, it's demonic, it comes from another realm, or it's just technology
that is very extreme or a mix of all of it. And then of course that gets us into the Project Blue
Beam and all that stuff. It's another conversation we can talk about for an hour or so easily.
Yeah, but that's what it says. Yeah. Wow. Joseph, would you just pray for the people that have been
watching this? Yes, sir. You know, one of the things I want to say to this awesome audience,
yours and Charisma and you, John and everybody, is that you don't have to be afraid of this stuff.
You don't have to fear anything. Christ in you, the hope of glory is greater than he that's in
the world. And even on a bad day, you're anointed to be the best there is. And God has called you.
He has marked your life with his glory. So the darkness is the thing that should be shaking,
not you. You're the Ecclesia and the gates of hell doesn't stand a chance against you. So I
bless you. I speak the peace that passes all understanding over your life. In Jesus' name,
even on that bad day, you have a revelation. And a man or woman of the revelation from God Almighty
is not at the mercy of a culture going mad. God has called you. Your future is bright.
Your children are going to be OK. God is with you and Jesus loves you more than he can even
tell you. I got to tell you, Jesus loves you and there's nothing you can do about it. So you might
as well get in cooperation with him. God's not mad at you. He wants a bright future for you.
Cooperate with him. Get into prayer. Get to know him. Run to him, not from him. And darkness won't
stand a chance. Jesus is Lord. He's with you. Amen. Amen and amen. Joseph Z. Thank you so much
for taking the time to share what God has said, how we've seen it fulfilled and what God is saying
for the year 2025. Thank you, brother. It's a privilege to be with you every time, John. Thank you, sir.