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We failed to protect the church and to preach good doctrine

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and address those moral and cultural issues

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that everyone else is talking to, but for fear we haven't.

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Just seems like there's a window of opportunity open

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over 2025 for a real spiritual renewal and revival.

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2025 is upon us and we are looking at what is God saying

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for this upcoming year.

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And with me today is Pastor Travis Johnson.

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And we are gonna talk about what God is telling him

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about 2025, but we've got a great story

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that you gotta stick around for,

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but what he's been doing with Christmas trees.

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So stick around with that.

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Pastor Travis, it's great to have you here.

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Hey, it's great to be with you, John.

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So let's talk about what God is saying

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about the year 2025 to you and your church

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and the people that God has you influencing with.

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What is God saying and how do we need to respond to this?

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Absolutely, a couple of things that I'm hearing right now.

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Looking out at 2025 and in the cultural mash

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of this environment that we're in,

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where there's so much, there's like a window

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of opportunity open.

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It feels like to me, I don't know that it's revival,

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but it's a window of opportunity for revival.

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And we see really a revival of the American spirit.

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I feel like we are going to see a revival of the family.

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You know, not necessarily speaking,

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spiritually church revival, but just a renewal

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and a refocusing, a re-gripping of the family

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and a revival of things good and decent and profitable.

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So for me, for the church, it seems like

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there's a window of opportunity open over 2025

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for a real spiritual renewal and revival.

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And so in that context, what I'm hearing in my heart,

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what I'm sensing, what I find myself speaking regularly

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is that in that environment,

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it's not a time for a lot of talk.

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It's not a time for a lot of consensus building.

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It's a time to go.

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It's a time to go.

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And so what I'm hearing is take dominion,

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show up, take dominion.

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The environment's already been prepped.

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Step in, step forward, take dominion and go.

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And then with that, people will come with us.

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People will come along.

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But then there's always a temptation

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to stop and try and bring everyone,

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get everyone deciding with you,

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working through that process.

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And that's good.

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That's who we are, pastors.

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And a lot of Christians are like this

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in that we are conflict avoiders

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because we have a need to be liked.

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but some of it's built to just

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from kind of the work that we do.

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But what I would say is go with the goers.

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Go with the goers.

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Praise God we wanna bring everybody along.

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Let me just say this to you, John,

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which I know is no problem.

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And you are alive and vibrant in your faith

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and as enthusiastic as anyone that I've ever met.

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I walk away strengthened in my faith.

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But to you, to my wife, to my friends,

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my children, my church, believers,

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is I would say this, I want you to go with me.

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I want you.

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I'm going to heaven.

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I'm going into the presence of God.

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I'm going to take dominion in 2025.

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I'm gonna move forward and I want you to come with me.

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But if you don't, I'm going.

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I'm going.

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There's this tremendous opportunity.

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I feel like God is orchestrating so much.

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He's done so much look back.

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It's not the way we would have done it.

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I wouldn't have planned it that way.

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All of these little miracles and all of these things

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that have been organized together

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to bring us to this point, I wouldn't have done it.

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you go, look what the Lord's done.

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And so here's what I'm doing.

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I'm on the threshold.

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I'm walking through the door in 2025.

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I'm not looking back to see who's following.

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I have confidence that as I walk through,

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people are following.

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I know that because I'm following other people

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that are walking through that door as well.

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There are generals.

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that have been on their knees before the Lord praying,

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seeking His face, calling out our names out over decades.

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And they're walking through.

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I'm walking through too.

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And I think the Lord's really going to bless the church.

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I think we're going to see revival in 25.

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I love that.

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As you were talking about this, there's

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a window of opportunity to do this as well.

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I just mentally had this picture of an apple orchard.

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And the apples were ripe.

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And there's a time to pick.

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But if you let them sit there too long,

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they're going to rot.

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And they're going to fall off.

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And they're not good for anything at that point.

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So what I'm feeling is that there's a time

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that the fruit is ripe.

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And this is the time to pick.

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And if you wait too long, it's going to rot.

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Oh, 100%.

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Think about this too.

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Let's talk about giving and givers.

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You can't stop a giver from giving.

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Givers, they give.

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All you can do is make sure that you

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have soil that's fertile and productive enough

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that they would want to give into what you're working on.

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who are a good investment and people who will listen

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and who will follow.

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and when we act on a thing is important.

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You talk about apples, but hey, when God opens the door,

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it's not the time to second guess and to say,

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well, I wouldn't have structured it like this.

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Are you sure?

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Is this the right time?

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as quickly as possible.

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I can't tell you how many times I've seen people approach

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an opportunity.

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that then the opportunity was gone.

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Someone came along and took it.

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So our ability to respond and say yes to the Lord

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is powerful.

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I'll say this, but a parent, when talking to their child,

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if the child obeys but is delayed obedience,

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delayed obedience is disobedience.

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There's a window of opportunity the Lord's open for us.

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And I just want to be as early on in walking

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through that as possible.

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I feel it.

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I feel I can see it.

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Yeah, that is really encouraging about this 2025 year.

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What else is God saying to you about this?

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For maybe nationally, I know you have some influence

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with other Christian leaders nationally.

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What are some other things that maybe God is saying about that

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that you can share?

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Well, I do think that one thing that's happened over the last,

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not just the last year, but really 2020

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was kind of a dividing line.

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A lot of the people that we look to, a lot of the voices

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have changed.

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People were forced to pick a side or a path.

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And then so many of us were radicalized.

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You're surprised at the pace at which things happened.

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So there's a kind of a reorganizing of voices

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that God's raising up.

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I'm thankful for that.

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I am.

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So there's some of that conversation.

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But within this, my mind and heart

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is going to Revelation chapter 3 when Jesus is talking

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to the church at Sardis.

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And the Lord says, strengthen that which remains.

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Well, we don't have a lot.

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The church is so compromised.

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There is compromise in the church.

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I mean, look, we have been hammered by woke gender

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ideology, our kids have.

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all of that stuff, it's crazy talk.

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It's happening in every state.

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You think we're aborting our unborn children?

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There are so many things.

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Religious liberty is at stake, free speech has been at stake.

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And think about how many pastors said nothing, said nothing.

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Here's what the Lord says to the church at Sardis.

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He said, you are known for your good reputation.

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So we're nice, respectable churches.

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We're nice, polite churches.

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We have this nice veneer, and good things are being said.

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But we failed to protect the church

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and to preach good doctrine and address those moral and cultural issues

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that everyone else is talking to, but for fear we haven't.

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is to strengthen that which remains.

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It's not to go back and try and get consensus,

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but it's to build up what is good and righteous.

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through.

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And so my prayer is that we as a church step into that moment.

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I see that in groups like National Faith Advisory Board,

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the people that are coming together, the courage that has really come up.

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Man, I think about pastors like Jensen Franklin.

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I'll never forget him, a 19-year-old boy, 18-year-old boy at a youth camp.

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And Jensen was much younger, playing his saxophone.

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He's doing an altar call.

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He pulls me up onto the stage, and he's prophesying over me.

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He looks at me, says, you were not made for small things.

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And I'm just going, of course, I was a mess at that age.

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And seeing those, in my mind, heroes in the faith,

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consistently, faithfully through the years, moving on through,

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and seeing so many of those people rallying together.

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And their voices from different streams, too, coming together.

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Moving into me, it feels like there's a real mustering taking place.

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And there are people all over looking for someone

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to wave that standard on the battlefield so that people can muster to that.

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It feels like that's already happened and is happening even more.

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I feel like you've seen some of that stuff just politically,

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a reassertion of goodness in leadership.

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I believe God's raising up some great voices in this moment.

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Amen, amen.

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Pastor Travis, one of the things that God is raising you up to do

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is actually changing lives by buying Christmas trees

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and giving those around.

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And you told me before we started this recording

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that you had a very unique experience with this outreach

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that you've been doing, which has started off in your church

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whenever your church was in the Miami area

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and has grown to many, many states.

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And you've been able to give away millions of dollars through this.

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But in responding to some of the disasters that have happened recently,

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God brought you to a very unique place.

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Can you tell us this story?

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So, John, that's called ByatreeChangeAlife.com.

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It's a small group missions project that just got out of control.

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We were paying for raising money for an adoption

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for a little girl from Ethiopia into a Coast Guard family.

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Now it's across America.

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This last year, it's amazing.

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All of us together, it's not like one big person, but all of us together,

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tens of thousands of families have helped us to give away over $13 million

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to help children.

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So as a part of that, we were sponsoring Christmas at Chimney Rock.

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And Chimney Rock had really captured America's imagination.

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During Hurricane Helene, a 20-foot wall of water comes through that town.

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And just a lot of devastation.

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Homes wiped out.

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Four feet of silt in downtown Chimney Rock.

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And so there's so many stories there.

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Bottom line, we were there for the Christmas tree lighting,

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just that little area.

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And then the next day, I was standing outside, and I met two families.

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Some kids run up to the Christmas tree, and they're seeing decoration

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on the Christmas tree.

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We had decorated the tree with items that had been scavenged downstream

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from the flood.

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And they were shoes.

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They were little toys.

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They were little guitars that had been lost from people's homes.

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So these little kids come up, and they're seeing their toys and clothing

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in the tree.

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It was the most joyful, tearful moment.

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Really?

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These items were in your house?

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Really awesome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What?

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What?

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What?

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What?

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All right.

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So what all's yours?

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That's what.

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Like everything.

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Like everything?

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Let's see you guys.

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I was so glad to be there for that.

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It led to some prayer.

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I love you.

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Bottom line, one member of the family is actually

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moving to our area just above Orange Beach here in Alabama.

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By the way, it's like heaven.

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It's beautiful.

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Get to heaven, John.

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But if you can't, come on to Orange Beach.

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But they're moving down.

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And so tomorrow, we have a bunch of people from the church

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that are meeting them with their moving van,

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and we're unloading their house.

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It was just this amazing thing.

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And I felt like God had just bent down to kiss the earth,

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and I got caught right in the smack.

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I thought, this is really heaven.

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So it was a wonderful time.

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So these little kids were seeing their own toys

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on this Christmas tree.

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And I think one of the questions that everybody's

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going to ask in the comments, and let us know in the comments.

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Make sure you're subscribed to this channel and everything.

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Did these kids get to just like, that's my toy,

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and then actually get to receive that,

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or is it just staying for decoration?

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Tell us about getting those things back.

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I mean, obviously, they want to take those down.

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But I watched them.

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The kids didn't even ask.

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They were just, if you see the video,

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it's euphoria and tears, and the family

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is bouncing around trying to take all the pictures.

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Actually, when that happened, I was behind the tree

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taking some video of the tree, because it was so remarkable.

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I mean, I don't know.

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It was like seeing something in color in the middle of a black

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and white TV show.

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And so that all happened.

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I actually have some other footage where I just say, hey,

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if you'd like, I can take a picture.

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I didn't even realize what was going on at that moment.

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So I stepped over to take the picture.

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And then that's when all of this euphoria starts to come out.

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So hey, my family went through Hurricane Andrew.

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We lost our home.

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My dad lost his church.

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I don't have a lot of pictures from when I was little.

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He slept under a picnic table for a week

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while he's pastoring the church as National Guard.

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And that sort of thing came in.

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He got an RV.

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And I tried to talk him out of staying.

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I wanted him to leave.

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But he's like, I would be a terrible pastor

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if I left my church right now.

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But if you ask my dad, he would say

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that was the best time of his ministry,

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because it was so terrible.

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Nobody should have to go through that.

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Those dams breaking upstream and just wiping everybody out.

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Nobody should go through that.

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However, when people come together

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and they help one another, it's extravagant.

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It's actually a fulfillment of scripture

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that the world will know us by our love for one another.

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And I've seen that over and over.

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Even in the comments of this video that's gone viral,

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you see non-Christians saying, this is what it's all about.

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This is beautiful.

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Thank you for letting us know that there's still

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people that care.

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So John, it was awesome, man.

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It was just awesome.

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That's beautiful.

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Pastor Jarvis, thank you for sharing that story with us.

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That's very touching, especially this time of year.

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We know that we're celebrating the greatest gift

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that God has ever given us, Jesus coming to this world

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to eventually die on the cross for us.

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But he had to come as a baby as the greatest gift

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that God has ever given us.

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And we do that to each other.

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We give gifts to each other to honor that.

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And what you've done is give us a great gift as well.

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So Pastor Jarvis, thanks so much for joining us here today.

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Thank you so much.

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And let me say this.

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If anybody wants to be a part of By a Tree, Change a Life,

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you can host a site at your church.

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It's amazing what's done.

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It's so much more than anything that you can imagine.

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You end up making some incredible friends.

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