1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 How do you preach 52 weeks out of the year and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere? 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,600 We're in a deliverance revival right now. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,640 And this is because for the first time in history, social media is a thing. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,480 Now you have a church over here that rejects it, refused to talk about it. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,880 And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,960 They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Isaiah Saldivar, it's great to have you here on Charisma. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,560 And this book, it's great to have you part of the Charisma author family, How to Cast Out Demons. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:40,320 And let's just right on the front of this, you say this is everything that you need to know about deliverance. 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,560 That's a that's a big claim, Isaiah. Let's talk about that. 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,480 This is everything you need to know. 13 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:49,040 How did you come to know everything that some people need to know? 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Yeah, so my journey with deliverance kind of and it is a bold claim. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,520 When I decided to come with that title, they said one of the people I won't say who at Christmas said, 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,600 you got to make sure you add everything if you're going to put everything you need to know. 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,000 And I think when people get the book, they'll realize every question they've had on deliverance, we try to find an answer to. 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,080 But for me, it started with 13 years ago, I was actually an atheist. 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,560 I didn't believe in God. I was raised in church, but just did not believe. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Just got hard hearted, bitter, angry, everything you can think of. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,840 And then my little sister begged me for about six months to go to church. 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,840 I told my girlfriend at the time, we're just going to go one time, get her off our back. 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,800 I'll never go again. And I had not been in three years up until this point. 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,360 So I'm about to turn 20 years old. 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,640 I graduated high school at 16. I graduated college at 19. 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,800 I was like the golden child doing everything right in the world's eyes. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Yet spiritually, I was completely dead. 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:41,320 And so I go to this church and the pastor's preaching about world missions and I was just not moved at all. 29 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:44,720 And then during the altar, he's like, if you want to come forward and give your life to Christ. 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,120 I wasn't planning to go forward, but I literally felt something pulling on my shirt. 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,680 I ended up going to that altar. And in so many words, I said, God. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,000 And I said a cuss word, I don't believe in you, but if you're real. 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,400 And then I started saying, I'll give you everything, which I don't even know why I was saying this at the time. 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,440 But inwardly, I so badly wanted there to be a God. 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,520 I said, I'll move out of state. I'll break up my girlfriend. 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,760 I'll leave my job because I was getting hired as a deputy sheriff. 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,240 I'll leave my job in law enforcement. I'll travel wherever you want me to go. 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,280 And I just started making all these bold claims that if God was real, I'd do this. 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,680 In that very moment, I hear an audible voice. 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,480 I'm not full of the Holy Spirit at the time. I was full of the devil. 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,600 And I heard an audible voice from above saying, Isaiah, I don't want 99.9 percent of you. 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,760 I want everything. Give me your life. 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,280 And in that, I went into some type of out of body experience where I was just seeing all these bright lights. 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,800 And I was seeing myself preaching before millions of people. 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 I was hearing the Lord talk to me about what he wanted me to do. 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,960 I go from that to coming back to my body and literal dirt was coming out of my eyes. 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,920 And at that time, I had not cried up until for 10 years up until that point. 48 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:47,360 I'm crying like a baby. So that's shocking me because I haven't cried in 10 years. 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,880 I was just so hard hearted. I'm speaking in this language that I don't even know what I'm saying. 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,240 I didn't know about tongues because the church I was raised in didn't talk about tongues. 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,280 The only time I ever heard tongues in my entire life was at five years old. 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 I heard my parents praying in tongues one time. So here I am now. 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,200 I'm speaking this language. I'm crying like a baby. Dirt's coming out of my eyes, literal dirt. 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,400 I'm having this crazy experience. The pastor gets on stage. 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,240 There's 500 young people at the altar. It's a big mega church. 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,800 And the pastor says, there's a young man in here right now and the Lord's removing the dirty scales from your eyes. 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:23,520 And I'm just made me cry even more. And I have this crazy experience. Long story short, 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,440 I don't sleep for three days. I don't eat for two weeks. I literally went from death to life. 59 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,200 I went from cussing every other word to 13 years later, I haven't said a word. 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,840 I went from drinking every day to 13 years later, I haven't drank. 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,040 I went from pornography every day, sleeping around, everything you could think of, 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:43,160 to being living a clean life ever since that moment. I put my faith in Jesus. I realized my life. 63 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,200 I was a sinner. In that moment, I realized everything I was doing, the parties, 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:53,880 the drinking, the girls was wrong. I felt filthy. And I put my faith in the cross and was born again that moment. 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,000 So that led into a revival broke out of my house. And this will all go into deliverance here. 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Give me like one more Pentecostal minute. A revival broke out of my house. My family got saved. 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,600 My friends got saved. Literally everyone in my family, aunts, cousins, uncles came. 68 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,360 It felt like everybody I knew got saved in my living room. 69 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,600 We were having three to four hundred people come every week to my living room. 70 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,040 We were seeing people get out of wheelchairs. I had an aunt that was born deaf get healed. 71 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,840 I had a cousin that was deaf get healed. I saw people that never walked walk again. 72 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:27,440 And that led to a lot of my friends I was partying with were coming to my living room for this revival meeting. 73 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:34,200 And they were manifesting demons. They would literally walk in my living room and start growling, screaming, blaspheming God, 74 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,560 slithering on the ground. And I was sitting there going, I partied with that guy last week. 75 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,040 And now he's on my floor, slithering like a snake. So I realized like this is spiritual. 76 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,920 There's a spiritual realm. My uncle, who's in ministry for 30 years, knew about all of this. 77 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,240 And I said, could we do this stuff? Like the Bible shows deliverance. Jesus cast out demons everywhere. 78 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,440 And I didn't have this religious mindset at the time. I just thought, hey, Jesus did it. 79 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,640 His disciples did it. The Book of Acts did it. We're disciples. 80 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Could we do this? And my uncle, who had been in ministry for 30 years, says that he had in that moment, had to decide, 81 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,400 am I going to spiritually neuter them and tell them this isn't for today? 82 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,520 Or am I going to tell them absolutely everything in the Bible you can do? 83 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,440 And my uncle said, miho was what, you know, we're Hispanic. He said miho, everything in the Bible you can do. 84 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,080 You can cast out demons. You can lay hands on the sick. You can preach the gospel. 85 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,400 And that turned into us literally doing deliverance almost every single day on one of our family, 86 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,760 one of our friends. And that led me into deliverance. 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:36,200 And then now, 13 years later, finally have a lot of those early stories and early things in a book form 88 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,000 when the Lord basically said it's time now to create a manual, make it easy for people, make it practical. 89 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,240 I made a joke and said, if you're looking for a book where it's like Jezebel, Leviathan, all of that, that is not this book. 90 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,160 This is a practical guide where any person can pick it up and understand how to cast out demons. 91 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,680 In the book, I talk about things like how people get demons, all of the stories of Jesus casting out demons, 92 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,880 signs you have a demon, items you might have in your home that open you to demons. 93 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,680 I give like a seven step method. I talk about stubborn demons, how to keep the demons out. 94 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,640 So literally everything you need to know is all there in the book. 95 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,480 But hopefully it could be a practical guide for people that want to get involved in deliverance ministry, 96 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,520 because I firmly believe scripture tells us every person is called to drive out demons. 97 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,640 It's not just for the select few, John, it's for every single disciple of Jesus Christ. 98 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,520 They shall cast out demons. So I'm super convicted about that. 99 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,680 Yeah, I can tell you. And you're passionate about this. 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:38,000 And I love the fact that you have been going online for several years now and you're seeing deliverance happening digitally. 101 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,680 And I just got to say, like society is talking about demons more than the church, it seems. 102 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:50,240 I mean, just recently, Tucker Carlson says that he was physically attacked by a demon and it left bloody claw marks on him, 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:56,320 which then led him to really reading the Bible and searching and for like the last year and a half or so, 104 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,320 which hearing that testimony was was wild. 105 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,640 And then there's celebrities that are openly claiming that they are operating in the demonic. 106 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,080 But the church just isn't even talking about it. 107 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,720 I mean, you do a lot of videos and reactions to things that are happening in our culture and our world. 108 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:22,040 Let's talk about the culture. But also, before we get into that, why isn't the church talking about demonic deliverance? 109 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,200 So there's a saying that ignorance is bliss is only said by the ignorant. 110 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,880 And I think when we say the word ignorant, it sounds mean. 111 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,320 You're like, why would you call the church ignorant? The word ignorant is not a mean word. 112 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,320 It means you just don't know. You just don't know something. 113 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,480 And for a while, I was frustrated at the state of the church and the pastors like, why, Lord, why don't they do this? 114 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Why aren't they talking about the Lord's like, Isaiah, they're just ignorant. 115 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,880 They just don't know. They've never learned about it. 116 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,520 They don't believe it. And so I think that's where the church is at because we haven't seen it. 117 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,000 We haven't been taught about it. We're ignorant to it. 118 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:58,120 But the problem is you can't read the Gospels and say that this isn't happening because it happened all throughout scripture. 119 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,640 And what the Lord's been showing me even this week was Isaiah, you're not pointing people to something new. 120 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,840 There's nothing new. There's nothing we're pointing to. 121 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,680 There's no new doctrine in the book. You're not going to find like a new revelation. 122 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,480 You're actually pointing people back. The Lord's been showing me to ancient paths, to what the Lord did. 123 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,760 But this is not a new teaching. This is an ancient teaching that's been forgotten about, 124 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:23,600 that's been lied about, that's been rejected, that's been put in the corner somewhere that people are afraid of. 125 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,640 But the bottom line is now we're at a place where the devil is hidden in plain sight. 126 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,800 And that means he's out in the open now. He's trying to hide, but he's in plain view where like every Grammy show, 127 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,480 every celebrity event, every, we already know if there's a Grammy's, there's going to be a bunch of demonic stuff happening on stage. 128 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,880 We already know if it's a Super Bowl halftime show, a bunch of demonic stuff on stage. 129 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,560 Any big platform the world has, it's always demonic. It's always dark now. 130 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,480 And that wasn't the case 50 years ago. 131 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,360 So I feel like the devil's really taking the gloves off. He's not ashamed anymore. 132 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,400 So my thing is if the devil's not ashamed, if he's unapologetic, we need to be unashamed. 133 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,560 We need to be unapologetic. He's not apologizing for demonizing our kids. 134 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:06,760 So we shouldn't apologize for delivering our kids. 135 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:12,480 He's not apologizing for wrecking our families with pornography and divorce and anger and the new age. 136 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,080 We shouldn't apologize for setting the captives free, for seeing deliverance, for seeing miracles. 137 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,480 So yeah, we're at a time where the world is actually open to talking about these things. 138 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,920 And there's a biblical way to do it. It's all through the scripture. 139 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,320 We look at like Mark 1 39, Jesus went from synagogue to synagogue casting of demons. 140 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,960 We look at Matthew chapter 10, he told the 12 disciples, go cast out demons. 141 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,520 He didn't ask them, John, he didn't say, if you feel like it, if you want to, that was the commission. 142 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,040 Then in Luke 10, he tells the 72, go cast out demons. 143 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,120 And then in Acts chapter eight, we see Philip, the only named evangelist in Scripture. 144 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,120 What is he doing at his first crusade? He's casting out demons and healing the sick. 145 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,080 So this is inevitable through scripture. You can't avoid this. 146 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,280 As his disciples, I want to make it very basic. 147 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,920 If I'm his disciple, I'm his representative. 148 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Second Corinthians five says we are Christ's ambassadors. 149 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,320 So I look at Jesus and I go, OK, very simply, what did he do? 150 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 He healed the sick, he cast out demons and he preached the gospel. 151 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Those are the three things he did. Like this is objective. 152 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Those are the three things he did. 153 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,880 So as his ambassador, as his follower, as his disciple, John 14 12, he says, 154 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,960 you're going to do the same works I've done and even greater is now I'm going to the father. 155 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,480 Wouldn't it make sense, John, that we as his disciples are called to do the same works? 156 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Not only that Jesus did, but the disciples did, the early church did. 157 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,640 And that includes casting out demons. 158 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,160 That includes healing the sick. That includes preaching the gospel. 159 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,360 Every single person watching this right now has a friend or family. 160 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,120 And this is no debate to this. 161 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,680 You have a friend or family that needs deliverance. 162 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:45,760 And you can't just say, I'm going to bring them to Isaiah, 163 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,240 sell the verse, deliverance of it. I'm going to bring them to my pastor. 164 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,440 No, you're called to set the cap. This free Mark 16. 165 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,680 The first sign of being a believer is these signs will follow in my name. 166 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,600 They'll drive out demons like imagine, John, that's the first telltale sign. 167 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,080 You meet somebody on the street, you're like, oh, you're a believer? 168 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,760 Yeah. Oh, me too. Oh, so you cast out demons like that would be crazy. 169 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,360 People would look at you like you're nuts. 170 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,200 Yet in the book of in the Bible, in the book of Mark, it says that'll be the first sign 171 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,200 of a believer is they will cast out demons. 172 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,040 But I think it's essential that we do that. 173 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,040 The world deserves it. The world needs it. 174 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,520 The church needs that our friends and family need it. 175 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,520 We really need compassion. We need to be heartbroken over the state of society. 176 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,200 I refuse to believe that we are the most depressed generation in existence. 177 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,040 I refuse to stand around while we're the most suicidal generation ever. 178 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,760 The devil is pouring out a spirit. That's true. 179 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,840 Just turn on the news, turn on the television. 180 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,360 But the Lord is also pouring out his spirit, which is greater, which is more powerful, 181 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,880 which has more authority. 182 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,280 And as his believers, we are we have the same spirit that raised Christ living in us. 183 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,320 And we're called to do this work. So I believe it's needed now. 184 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,400 I think this whole book coming out is timely. 185 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,760 We're in this era, this generation that's hungry for the spiritual realm. 186 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,720 And we are we're really giving them what they want. 187 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,040 And that is, tell me what Jesus did. 188 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,080 Tell me about Jesus. And this is something Jesus did everywhere. 189 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,000 You know, I'm really loving the fact that, you know, Charisma, 190 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,320 we've published a number of people's, you know, part of the Demon Slayers group, 191 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,760 you know, with you and Alexander Pagani and Mike Signorelli and Vlad Savchuk. 192 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,600 And, you know, depending on, you know, who else might be part of that group. 193 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,880 But you guys are all friends. You're all in ministry together in some 194 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,280 in some way, shape or form. Greg Locke. 195 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:33,120 And we we love just seeing what the Holy Spirit is doing at this time in history. 196 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,480 There is a renewed focus on deliverance. 197 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,320 But that still brings me back to this question of why has the church not paid attention to this? 198 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,960 Why has the church kind of let this go to the side? 199 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,960 And it's almost like those are those are the strange people that do deliverance over there. 200 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,800 You're like, those are the weirdos. 201 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,240 You know, let's let's take this out of the main service into that back room there. 202 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,000 And get those people help that way. 203 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Why is this like let's talk about this a little bit, 204 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,520 because we are missing something that God tells us that we're supposed to do. 205 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,080 Yeah, it's the pastor's job. That's a straight up truth. 206 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,400 The pastor leads the church. The pastor is the one. 207 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Whatever his vision is, that's the direction of the church. 208 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,840 If we look at the modern church and say, why is deliverance not happening? 209 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,160 We have to point to the leaders, the leader. 210 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,040 We have to point to leaders like if there's a bad policy in the country, 211 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,600 we don't blame the citizens because we have no power over that. 212 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,680 We blame the leaders that the citizens elected and go, why are the leaders not doing their job? 213 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,800 So I look at the pastors and say, it's really their job. 214 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,880 I've told pastors before, how do you preach 52 weeks out of the year 215 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,520 and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere? 216 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,560 I mean, think about that. 217 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:42,000 You gave 52 sermons and you somehow skipped over what Jesus did in every single city he went to 218 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,360 and what the disciples did. 219 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,440 And so it's necessary as leaders, we're trained and equipped to cast out demons. 220 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,920 It starts with the leadership and then leads into people. 221 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,640 Okay, so now we're in a place where you just said it, John, 222 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,640 we're in a deliverance revival right now. 223 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,840 And this is because for the first time in history, social media is a thing, right? 224 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Like 10 years ago, there was no short form content. 225 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,640 10 years ago, going viral didn't really exist. 226 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,360 Well, here now you have a church over here that rejects it, refused to talk about it. 227 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,640 Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online. 228 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,080 They're not waiting for permission from a local church, which I love the local church. 229 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,040 I pastored for a decade. 230 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,240 I'm a part of a local church. 231 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Mike, Vlad and Pagani are all senior pastors of local churches. 232 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,240 So I love the local church. 233 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,680 But here's what you have now, online taking off, going viral. 234 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,040 And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative. 235 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,000 They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church. 236 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 So because our videos are getting millions and millions of views, 237 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,120 the first deliverance video I ever posted on TikTok got 15 million views. 238 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,600 Wow. 239 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,800 You can't now avoid the deliverance now because like everybody at my church is asking why we don't do it. 240 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Everybody at my church is asking why is it happening online? 241 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,320 They're giving verses. 242 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:48,960 It's in the Bible. 243 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,320 It's theologically sound. 244 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,200 The pastors have no choice now but to embrace it. 245 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,880 Just three weeks ago, we were in the Now Arena in Chicago. 246 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,560 10,000 people gathered. 247 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,560 And at the very end of the day, we had mass deliverance with 10,000 people packed out arena. 248 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 So it's like you can't ignore anymore what the Lord is doing. 249 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,520 And it all points back to the cross. 250 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,440 It all points back to Jesus. 251 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Isaiah has no power. 252 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Mike has no power. 253 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Vlad, Pagani, none of us have power authority. 254 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:19,840 All we're doing is pointing people back to Jesus and saying it's in His name that we cast our demons. 255 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,000 It's in His name that there's power and authority. 256 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:28,400 And so now I could tell you pastors that would never invite me, never do deliverance, 257 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,840 never want anything to do with it, are now starting to do deliverance, 258 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,200 are now starting to get deliverance. 259 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,760 I just talked to a guy today who said, my pastors of a large known mega church, 260 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,440 he literally just told me today, I won't say who, my pastors just went through deliverance. 261 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,440 So now it's like even these big, big, big churches, our pastors are going through deliverance. 262 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,320 They're starting to teach it. 263 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,600 They're bringing people in. 264 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,000 I've been in some large churches that five years ago, I would have laughed if you said, 265 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,360 they're going to bring you in to teach on deliverance. 266 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,880 I would have been like, they would never invite me. 267 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,080 And now they're inviting me because they're seeing not only is it working, 268 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,720 the world needs it and the church is hungry for it. 269 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,400 But now I think we're seeing that ignorance break. 270 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,840 And of course, the books, the videos online, I have 2200 videos on my channel. 271 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,960 So like we're teaching people, we're training people, we're going through the Bible. 272 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,840 And it's waking people up to this truth of what Jesus did.