Them snakes are sneaky. They are masters of camouflage technology. An 800 pound anaconda
can slither silently through the trees because it's so stealth. When we get into the fiery
presence of God, we will start to actually be able to see these demonic serpents.
We're talking about serpent spirits and there's a lot of times that people just don't understand
what we're talking about whenever we're talking about serpent spirits and the need for deliverance.
Um, it sounds a little bit weird. Let's just put it that way. It sounds a little bit weird,
a little bit crazy, but we need to put verbiage to things and explain things in certain ways
so that people understand that. So I am super excited about this conversation, Katie. So it's
a, it's great to have you here on Charisma. Thanks. Thanks, John. Thanks so much. Yeah. Um,
I'm glad you are braving the waters, so to speak, uh, because it's true. Uh, these things are real
and the church is ill equipped to come against this level of warfare in this hour, which is
absolutely swarming every believer. So it's necessary that we understand these things.
Jesus talked about it. Um, in Luke 10, he said that we've been given authority to trample on
serpents and scorpions and overall the power of the enemy and nothing shall in any way harm us.
Now, when he's speaking that he's not talking about just snakes in the natural, because in context,
right before that, the disciples came back from a missionary trip saying,
even the demons submitted to us in your name. And Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning from
the sky. I've given you authority to trample on serpents and scorpions. Now, so in context,
he's talking about demonic spirits. Now, if you think about it, if he's telling these guys, uh,
Hey, I've given you authority to trample on these snakes after, right after they said, even the
demons submitted to us in your name. That means that many of the demonic entities that the disciples
took on during their missionary journey were demons that came in the form of serpents and
scorpions. So these are real. They're very hard to see. And that's why many Christians miss them,
but we need to know about them because Jesus told us in the great commission in Mark 16,
that we're going to, you know, preach the gospel, baptize the nations. We're going to heal the sick,
drive out demons, raise the dead and take up serpents. That's called the great commission
for a reason because it's great in its scope. It is for every single believer, not just for a snake
hunter like myself. Okay. And that word take up, there is the Greek word Iro. It means to remove
anything that's attached to anything. So once people begin to understand the activity of these
demonic serpents, they'll see that they are attached to anything. They are attached to
people's bank accounts, their money, their family, their marriage. They're breaking up marriages.
They're causing your body to be sick. They're causing your business to split apart. They're
causing strife and division in the church. I have scriptures for all these things. I'm not just saying
a list right now. I have backup scriptures that we don't have time to, you know, expound on right now
for every claim that I'm making. And many people do not see these serpents because Genesis three
says that they're the most craftiest beast of the field. Them snakes are sneaky. They have,
they are masters of camouflage technology, which means that even in the natural, when you see a
snake and it's very hard to see them, their scales blend in with their surroundings, you know,
a desert snakes like rattlers, you won't even see them. You'll hear them because their scales match
the rocks and the sand and every part of the desert scheme. You go into the jungle and 800 pound
anaconda can slither silently through the trees because it's so stealth. It has so much camouflage
technology. Its scales blend into the jungle foliage. You won't know it's even there until
it's already dropped around its prey and squeezed it to death and is squeezing it to death. See,
these snakes are very, very, uh, camouflage able. And so then they hide themselves on people's
bodies in their lives without us being able to see them. That's what we have to say in the fiery
presence of God. When, when Paul, you know, accidentally picked up a serpent on the island
of Malta while picking up a bundle of sticks, cause it was cold night, they were shipwrecked,
he was building a fire. He didn't know he had a deadly viper inside that bundle because the
serpent looked just like one of the sticks. Yeah. But when he threw it on the fire, the heat of the
fire drove it out of hiding. When we get into the fiery presence of God through fasting, through
tongues, through, through prayer, through fiery worship, we will start to actually be able to see
these demonic serpents. Yeah. So we need to have eyes that see these things because it's easy to
go through life and just not be paying attention. But this forces of darkness that are out there
are real. They're not just imaginary. It's not just a, a Disney, uh, evil cloud that comes over.
There is so much real to this that it's actually more real than our physical reality. So we,
as believers need to be able to stand against that. And I love how you talk about fire and
how important it is because the fire is what really kind of separates us from that. Can you
explain about fire and the hedge of protection? Okay. Well, fire. Okay. So think about it. Moses
grew up in Pharaoh's household. We all know that, uh, in Exodus four, in the amplified classic,
it says that when Moses was up on the mountain with God and the fiery bush was up there, that,
the serpent, that the rod became a serpent. And in the, and in the amplified classic, it says that
that when it became a serpent, it was a symbol of, of the serpent that was on the crown of Pharaoh.
That symbolized the power of Pharaoh. That's actually in the Bible. Okay. So what does all
this mean? Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household as a young Prince of Egypt. He was required to
have the education of Egypt. The Egyptians understood something very important. The more
educated there, there's civilians that they're, they're people of the nation, the stronger the
nation would be. So part of the education system that, that was very important to the Egyptians
was for all Egyptians to learn about the pantheon of God's that Egypt worshiped. Now as a Prince
of Egypt, he was in Pharaoh's household. He had to learn about the power God that was over the
palace. The, the Wadjet, the serpent was on the crown of Pharaoh. So that was the reigning,
the reigning God in Pharaoh's household. So Moses is taught as, as he was growing up to worship the
snake, to bring offerings to the serpent, to, to learn how to serve the serpent. So then when he
leaves that household, when you are exposed to that level of occultic activity, that stays with you
until it gets exposed and healed. Now, look, people say, well, how do you, well, it says in the Bible
that that serpent in Exodus four, go read in the Amplified Classic is the reigning, reigning power
in Pharaoh's household. And look at Pharaoh's magicians, their rods turned into snakes
because they, that was the, that was the reigning God of the household. So their magic was surrounded
by serpents. So here is Moses. He's in the desert and he sees a bush that's on fire, but does not
burn. And he says, I'm going to go see this thing. I'm going to go see this thing. This, this, I'm
going to turn aside and look at it. It goes up. And while he's standing in front of the fiery bush
that does not burn, God begins to commission Moses to go, you're going to go into Egypt. You're going
to free my people from the, from the rule of Pharaoh, the snake king, and you're going to go
to a land that I promised you and take possession of it. So as he's doing this, and I'll even go to
the chapter because it's so powerful. Moses says in verse one of Exodus four, look, when I go to
my people, they will not believe me or listen to me. They do not believe that I, that I met with you,
that you've appeared to me. And the second verse, the Lord doesn't even address his question. He
says to him, what is that in your hand? And Moses answers the rod. Do we, do we actually believe
that God doesn't know what's in Moses's hand? The rod, you know, no, what, what, what, what, the reason why
God is asking that is because he wants to know if Moses knows what he's been carrying around
for his entire life since Egypt, a snake who is a master of camouflage has been disguising itself
as a rod. That's why he asked himself, that's why God asked Moses, what's in your hand? He says the
rod. No, it's not really a rod. Then on the next verse, verse three, he says, now cast it on the
ground. So when Moses cast that rod on the ground in front of the fiery bush, it says it became what
it really was. A serpent, the symbol of royal and divine power worn on the crown of Pharaohs. And
Moses fled from it. See in the fiery presence of God, the fire will drive the snake out of hiding.
See Paul, let's go back to Paul for a second. He's carrying around a bundle of sticks.
He doesn't know he's got that serpent in it. He throws it on the fire. The fire drives it out of
hiding. It bites him, but he shakes it off. He's left unharmed. That's how powerful the fire of
God is. Now here's the interesting part. When you look up that story, it says that he's carrying a
bundle of sticks. The word bundle there means a multitude of men. Go look it up. It means a
multitude of men, meaning the multitude of men are carrying around serpents and they don't know it.
And here's Moses. He's been carrying around a serpent disguised, camouflage technology,
as a staff his whole life. And here's God trying to commission him, commissioning him, not trying,
commissioning him to go and free the Israelites from captivity in Egypt. And what happens, you've
got to get desnake-ified. You've got to get rid of these serpents you're carrying around before you
can carry out the commissioning of God. Moses would not be able to free the Israelites.
From captivity in Egypt, if against the snake king, he would not be able to win the war against
the snake king if he had a serpent on himself. Because Jesus said in John 14 30, the prince's
world is coming, but he's nothing in me. That's in common with him. So he has no power over me.
So Moses couldn't have anything in him that was in common with the Pharaoh, the snake king.
That way Pharaoh wouldn't have any power over Moses. God had to meet Moses on that mountain.
On that mountain with a fiery bush. He doesn't just pick, you know, signs out of a hat, like today
I'll do a rainbow. Tomorrow I'll do snow and hail. Tomorrow I'll do the Red Sea Parting. No, he picked
specific signs and wonders at specific times for specific reasons. He picked the fiery bush that
did not burn up on the mountain to meet Moses there so that the fiery bush would drive that snake
out of hiding that Moses had been carrying around his whole life so that Moses could then pick up
the rod. Because afterwards, God said, no, pick it up by the tail. That's nuts. You don't pick up a
snake by the tail. It'll swing around and bite you. But God wanted to show him you didn't have dominion
over before. That's why you fled from it. That's what the Bible said. Fled from it when it turned
into a snake, when it turned into what it really was. But now that you're getting healed and
delivered in the presence of my fire, pick it up by the tail. What did it do? It turned back into
the rod. But this time it was the real rod of power, the real rod of power that would call down
plagues upon Egypt and the snake king that would part the Red Sea, that would strike the rock and
water would come out in the middle of the desert. He then carried the real rod of power. We've got
to get rid of these snakes that we're carrying so that we're carrying the real rod of power of God
so that we can truly deliver people from the world. Yeah. So getting rid of these snakes that we're
carrying. Katie, I got to ask, how did God get rid of the snakes in your life? Can you tell us a
little bit about that? Revelation, revelation. God just said, you know, he started, he always does the
same thing with me. I get in the presence for elongated periods of time. And then he starts
giving me scripture and then he'll give me one scripture and he'll link it to a next scripture.
Then he'll link it to the next scripture. Then he'll link it to the next scripture until he
builds this very solid, harmonious doctrine throughout the text to show me this is not just
this little word here. This is actually a revelatory insight, a teaching that can get people
freed. So that process, whenever it happens like that for me, that's how all my teachings have been
birthed, is that it comes to me and I walk it out myself and get free myself. And then I can
go and then administrate that freedom with the truth of the word to other people. Yeah. So it's
like some personal stories of how God has brought you through some of those things that you've now
see that there was a snake or that was a python spirit or something like that. Could you just kind
of get a little personal? I know you've got a great testimony, so I want to pull a little bit
of that out of here before we go into more teaching. Yeah. Like I can remember waking up
up shortly after I first started getting this revelation and I had a indentation in my breast
about the depth of the tip of my pinky finger, which is pretty deep. It's like that deep.
And so I was like, what is this, Scott? And he said, I want you to soak in fire and I'll show
you. I was on tour at the time. I spent the night, you know, up singing a fire song and then falling
asleep and then getting up and singing the fire song, falling asleep and just pressing with fire
all night long. Finally, I had a vision. I had a vision of a serpent up on its tail with this
triangular jaw, which means that they're venomous striking at me. And I said, what is that Lord?
And he goes, that's the snake that's trying to give you breast cancer. So I did what Jesus said to do,
take up serpents. I prophetically did an act where I pulled that snake off of that area of my body
and cast it into the abyss, the fiery abyss. And then the Lord says, now take communion
for the next three days, a lot and command the venom to come out of your body. So I did.
And I command the venom to come out and I was taking the communion and I taking the communion
because see, people don't understand when you're taking communion. Okay. The very first prophecy
about Christ is the seed of the woman will crush the head of the seed of the serpent. See the woman,
Jesus Christ will curse the head of the seed of the serpent. That's in Genesis three, where the
serpent is now shipwrecked all of mankind. And when we take communion, we're doing it in remembrance of
Christ's work on the cross. That's where the crushing took place. So I was taking the communion,
I was commanding the venom to come out. And for three days I was balled up in my bed in agonizing
pain because that part, that area of my body was just an agonizing pain. And I thought for a second,
I just made it mad. I didn't get rid of it. I just made it mad, but that's not what it was.
On the third day when I got up, I went to the bathroom to take a shower and that indentation
had fully grown in and filled in the pain. I was feeling was the regeneration of the breast tissue
being healed and regenerated from that cancer, the venom that the enemy was pumping into my breast.
So that's just one example. And I see people like, I just came back from a meeting and
there was a girl that she had a full spinal fusion. Every disc fused to the other disc by metal
and metal rods in her back. She could only turn this much. And if she turned any more,
she was in excruciating pain. And the doctor said, if you try to force it and turn more,
you're going to snap the bars and you're going to have to have surgery to fix it. And so they
brought her over to me. I prayed for her and she had snakes up and down her spine. And I just pulled
them all off. Take up serpents. That's what Jesus said. And very quickly she was turning all the way
around to where I can't even turn as far as her. We call her Elastigirl now. She was turning all
the way around both ways, leaning all the way back, totally healed. I see that happen all the time.
I have people check people's spines before I pray for them and they check, okay, it's crooked.
It goes like this. And then it indents like this. And then I pray for them. I pull the snake up their
back and the spine literally snaps into place straight, straight as an arrow. Bam. There's
the spine perfectly aligned with the right curve in it where it's supposed to be straight on the
front view, everything. This is real. And I have seen massive, massive, massive miracles of every
kind from this revelation.