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I don't think I've ever said this before.

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I was being guided by spirits.

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I had to sign a contract.

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I saw things I'd never seen in my life.

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It was weird, but it was spiritual.

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I knew that there was something happening.

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Pastor Richard Littorenzo, it's great to have you here

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on Charisma in Studio.

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And we're gonna talk about your testimony

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because God has truly brought you from darkness into light

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and now you are leading other people into the freedom

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of the light of Christ as well.

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Hallelujah.

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And you're right here in Sanford,

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just down the street from our Charisma Studios

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here in Lake Mary, Florida.

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And it's exciting that we actually were able

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to connect in person for this.

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Yeah, man, it's an honor.

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You know, my wife and I own some books,

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from Charisma Media, and I had no idea

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you guys were in Lake Mary either.

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And then my wife said she got an email,

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checked it out, and then now you're walking

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into the facility.

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It's an honor, man.

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Like, you know, we talked about it.

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My spiritual father knows people that started Charisma Magazine

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and all this stuff.

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Yeah, it's an honor, man.

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It feels like almost like, kind of weird

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that I'm even have the opportunity to do this,

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but all glory goes to God and I'm here, man,

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just to, like you said, expose darkness and bring light.

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Amen.

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Help others.

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Amen, well, I love seeing how God brings pieces together

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and he's the one that really creates the grand picture.

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And your life has had a lot of different pieces

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and we're gonna kind of put this puzzle together here.

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Amen.

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So you're a pastor now.

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Yes, sir.

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That is not been the, if you would have talked to yourself

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15, 20 years ago, that would have not been the case at all.

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You would have never thought that you were a pastor,

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that you would become a pastor.

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Tell us how this happened and tell us who Richard Lorenzo

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was before Christ.

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Man, about 15 to 20 years ago,

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that was like high school, high school time.

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And I was not thinking about Jesus at all.

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You know, I didn't even know who Jesus was.

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Being raised Catholic, you know, I love my mom.

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You know, now she's growing in charisma, right?

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And, you know, she gave her life to Christ

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about a year and a half ago and she's growing.

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You know, it's a real stronghold, the Catholic Church.

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And man, yeah, man, I was raised in the Catholic Church,

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really didn't take that serious at all.

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It was more like my mom just did it for her.

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And I'm from Fort Lauderdale, Broward County.

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It's near Miami, about 30 minutes.

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You know, being raised in a household of Puerto Rican parents,

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you know, hard work, hard work, you know,

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take school serious.

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You know, they don't have college degrees.

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They both, you know, come from, you know, a background,

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you know, of low income and different things like that.

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And they raised me and my brother, you know,

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with the love that they knew, you know,

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they were in our lives.

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I'm not gonna sit here and say like, they just like,

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bye, like, you know, they isolated.

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But we did grow up with a lot of, you know,

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just because it wasn't a Christian household, you know,

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a lot of rejection, a lot of rejection, identity issues.

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My dad never had a dad, so he was learning how to be a dad.

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And what that did is it just, it built me,

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it gave me a certain type of strength,

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but it wasn't a strength that comes from God.

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It was more like a survival, like I had to survive.

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So throughout middle school, high school,

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I was just always trying to maintain a certain GPA,

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make, you know, make my mom happy.

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And I always was thinking about success, money,

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I gotta do something, but living a double life.

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So I played ball growing up, you know,

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played basketball, loved basketball.

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That didn't really work out.

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You know, after my junior year, I realized, you know,

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like this ain't it.

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I'm not going to the, I'm not going to play D1, D2.

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I'm not going to the NBA.

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It's fun to play, but it's not going to be your life.

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Exactly. It hit me.

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It was, and when it hit me, man, again, like,

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that was my identity for a while.

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And you know, it kept me out of the like streets.

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I had a lot of friends that were in the streets,

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being from that area,

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a lot of friends that were in the streets,

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but I was like the athlete dude, you know,

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like I hung out with the athletes,

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but then eventually it was just like, okay,

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no more basketball.

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I need some type of identity.

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And that's when, you know,

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the enemy just introduced me to a lot of things, you know,

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just drug dealing.

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It was always around me,

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but then I started getting into it, taking drugs, drinking,

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robberies, you know, credit card scamming.

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I mean, anything to do,

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anything you can do to get money in down south,

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all those things are normal.

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Like everyone does it.

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It's a normality.

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And again, maintaining a certain GPA,

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like trying to make it to college,

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trying to make it be successful in that direction.

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But then also, you know, living that life, you know,

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just having sex with a bunch of girls and, you know,

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just, just trying to prove something, you know,

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like almost like playing catch up, you know,

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as a basketball those years.

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And man, it led me down a crazy path and it led me, you know,

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to a deeper street life.

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Again, went to college, got accepted to UCF,

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came up here to central Florida, back in 2008.

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And, and, you know, 75% scholarship, you know,

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cause of my GPA and, but, you know,

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fast-fed covered the rest and just went, you know,

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went all out, like when it came to like drinking and partying,

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you know, my first semester, 2.0 GPA,

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drinking and driving was a normal thing.

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Four days, five days a week, seven days a week.

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I mean, you know, the UCF or the party life,

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the college party life with UCF being the second largest

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school in the nation at the time, you know,

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it was every day there was a new bar, new club.

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Sure, sure.

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So I was just taking advantage of those, you know,

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$10 to get in $1 Long Island pictures, you know,

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like rum and Coke, $2, you know, it was a normal thing, man.

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Just always drunk, still hitting the gym,

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barely making it through school.

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You know, that's when I got introduced to Adderall

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and started taking a lot of Adderall, you know,

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they tried to diagnose me with ADD when I was in first grade,

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but you know, my mom, she didn't allow it.

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I thank God for that, but I'm still caught up, you know,

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in college, taking Adderall, drinking a lot of sex, man.

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At this point, you know, I'm 18 years old

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and I don't even know how many girls I've slept with.

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I lost track and I'm still drug dealing.

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That's when I got introduced to my first quarter pound

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of marijuana, like, like fronted to me by a friend

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who actually just recently reached out to me, man.

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Actually, it's crazy.

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A few days ago, he reached out to me

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because he saw what, you know, we're doing on the internet

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and he, it's crazy.

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He actually said, I've been watching you, man.

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I love what you're doing.

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And we're actually meeting up soon.

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A lot of my friends are getting saved now.

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It's crazy.

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I used to look up to him, man, like, you know,

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as one of those guys, but yeah, man, he, you know,

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I started selling drugs, started getting involved in that,

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you know, and I was able to do it quickly.

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I was able to sell quickly.

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I was able to talk to people, build connections

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and just, and grow with that, you know,

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the money and the marijuana.

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And it led to a crazy operation.

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Eventually, a lot of people in that operation got arrested.

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It was all up on the news.

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I mean, they had like the criminal tree on the news

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and the Mexicans at the top and the suppliers

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and how they were bringing it from Texas and all this stuff.

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Man, it was crazy.

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And I barely got away.

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Some of my friends did get arrested,

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but I barely got away.

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And then, you know, at that time, you know,

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I was maintaining my GPA above a 2.0,

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but I was just, I knew that the life I was living,

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it just, the surroundings, the people,

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it wasn't gonna be good for long.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And that's when I decided to go to New York with my friend.

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I'm like, hey, let's just go to New York, you know,

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and try something new.

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Like, let's get out of here.

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The girl I was dating at the time,

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I was really running away from her

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because I was messing with a bunch of girls,

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but this girl wouldn't like leave me alone, man.

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Like, you know, it was just, it was a bad soul tie.

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A lot of trauma, a lot of abuse on both ends,

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a lot of just, man, just a lot of stuff, you know.

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And so I left to New York with my friend in a U-Haul.

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We both got into a U-Haul, packed all our stuff,

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and we just went in faith, man.

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We had no apartment.

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We slept in our U-Haul,

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like literally set a bed in the U-Haul just to sleep.

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And we would go around New York looking for apartments.

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We didn't have credit.

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We didn't have the, yeah,

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the ability to get an apartment at the time.

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So we just slept in the U-Haul drinking still,

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going to clubs, living a wild life, man,

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taking showers at gyms, like.

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And then we got an apartment in Brooklyn in the hood,

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Crown Heights, man, and we, no closet, no refrigerator.

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Like, you know, I was actually in a Hasidic,

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a Hasidic Drew let us into the apartment.

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And I remember we just,

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we were living a crazy lifestyle, man.

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The drinking never stopped.

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You know, I ended up getting my security license

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to bounce in clubs.

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And that was around the first time I got suicidal.

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Just not knowing what the purpose of my life was

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or why I was even here on earth.

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It used to torment me a lot.

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Used to really, I used to think about that a lot.

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When I was younger, I don't know.

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Do you ever, you ever heard about the Truman show?

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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Great movie, actually.

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Great movie, man.

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And when I was, when I was young,

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my parents took me to watch it.

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I think it came out when I was around like 10 or 11.

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But man, that show really like,

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God used it because it really like sparked,

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like it planted a seed.

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It made me think about like,

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what are we really doing here?

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So my whole life, I always had that thought.

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But when I was around 21 in New York,

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that's when it really hit me.

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I was just depressed for no reason.

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I didn't know about demons.

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I didn't know about the spirit realm.

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I didn't know about Jesus.

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I just was super depressed,

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cut everybody off of my life.

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I just felt like everyone was against me.

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It was, it was very, very spiritual.

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And that's around the time I had sleep paralysis

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for the first time.

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Okay, sleep paralysis.

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Yes, sir.

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You're paralyzed while you're sleeping

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and you're terrified at the same time.

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The first time I had it was at, was at UCF.

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I just heard like I was sleeping, woke up,

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couldn't move, heard knocks on my closet,

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on my closet door in the back.

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And I kind of like, couldn't move.

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I was freaked out, but I just went back to sleep.

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But the second time I was actually sleeping next to a girl.

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And the previous night before that,

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I had, we had done some evil stuff, man.

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We had robbed a whole house and just went drinking

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and doing a lot of stupid things, you know,

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looking for identity.

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And just for money.

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But I remember waking up that morning around 10 a.m.,

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you know, hung over, but I just couldn't move.

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And it's like my peripherals just opened.

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Like I could see everything in the room.

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Like it was a different, like it was a different realm.

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It was a spirit realm.

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Yeah.

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And I remember just like being stuck.

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And I knew that there was a demon right to the left of me.

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And I know it was more real than the physical realm.

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There was a demon right next to me that was laughing

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and trying to enter me.

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Like, and it was getting closer.

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It was almost like it knew that.

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And now that I'm a Christian, Holy Spirit filled,

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it had the legal right.

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Back then I didn't understand that,

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but I knew it had now.

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It finally had the access to enter me.

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And man, it freaked me out, man.

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And I remember not being able to move,

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but tears were still coming down.

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I'm freaking out.

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I don't know what to do, but you know, being raised Catholic,

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you know, the one good thing that I did know

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and memorize was the Lord's Prayer, you know.

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You know, because Catholics have to memorize the prayers.

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You know, most don't really know what it means.

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Some do, some do.

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Some have a, like you said, you know,

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there's charismatic Catholics that end up

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encountering the Holy Spirit

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and really, really getting radically transformed.

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But I knew the Lord's Prayer.

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And I remember in my head, not out loud,

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because I can't move,

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this demon's trying to enter me laughing.

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And I just start,

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our Father who art in heaven,

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hallowed be thy name.

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Like in my head though,

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the minute I did that, man,

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I remember a light came into the room,

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a literal light.

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And it was in the realm of the Spirit.

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I could see it was like, it was so real though.

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A light came and started ministering to me

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and speaking to me.

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Just telling me like, you know,

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you have to change your life

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with the way the path you're going down is not good.

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And when the light came, that demon left.

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That evil dark spirit, that evil spirit left.

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And that's when that light began to minister to me about,

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and I'm, the entire time I'm stuck.

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My eyes are wide open and this is all happening.

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Like it was such a real experience,

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like an outer body experience.

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And then I'm after, you know, the light.

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And to this day, I don't know if it was Jesus or an angel,

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but it was, I know it was godly.

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It was positive.

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It was good.

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It was a good light.

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And, you know, cause you know what the Bible says

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that the devil can come, but, you know,

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masquerading as an angel light, but obviously the demon.

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There was no masquerading in that one

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cause you knew where the demon was

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and it was coming after you.

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And you said it, you were giving it legal right,

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or it had legal right.

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Yep.

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What was the way, what was the reason

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that it had legal right?

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So, I mean, everything you can think of,

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robbery, fornication, pornography addiction,

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you know, drug addiction to pills, lying.

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I mean, bro, everything, pride.

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So all of these things give the devil legal access to you.

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But you prayed the Lord's prayer

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cause that was the only prayer that you knew.

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That's all I knew.

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And God saved you in that moment.

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Yep. In that moment.

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In that moment.

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There was grace.

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There's more to come.

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Exactly man.

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And it's like, and I was around 21

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and like you would think that somebody would change

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after that, I didn't change.

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And it did get worse because like I said,

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I moved to New York, I was in New York

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and that's when I was suicidal.

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That's when, and I believe that that spirit

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was actually a spirit of suicide.

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And eventually, because I didn't repent and change,

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that spirit did eventually enter me.

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And I remember having this overwhelming suicidal,

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just a feeling like it's, for those that battle that,

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it's not a mental disorder.

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I guess it is in the soul, but it's a spirit.

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It's a spirit that needs to be casted out.

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And I didn't know about any of this.

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I remember being depressed.

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I remember starting to contemplate it.

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Like, okay, I'm just going to kill myself.

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This is around the time that out of nowhere,

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I start coughing up all the food I'm eating.

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So like what I told you about earlier,

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the larynx pharyngeal reflux to silent reflux to LPR,

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I didn't know what it was.

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Give us a quick story about that

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because that was pretty powerful.

389
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Yeah, man, so around the age of 20,

390
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out of nowhere, just my food started coming up when I ate.

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Like I would eat food, but it would just come up

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and it would cause-

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This is not anorexia or bulimia.

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This was something else.

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I mean, I was in the gym, bro.

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I was big.

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I was like 200 in shape, playing ball,

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benching 225, like in shape, like, you know, shredded.

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Like I was in shape, but my food kept coming up

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and I kept having like these sinus issues,

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like, but I wasn't sick.

402
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So, but what it does is like,

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because the hiatal hernia can't keep the acid

404
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from coming from staying down,

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the acid's constantly coming up and then it hits,

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you know, the senses.

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What was it called again?

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The sinuses.

409
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Yeah.

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The sinus and it causes,

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and then your body automatically thinks, oh, you're sick,

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but you're not sick.

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And then it causes mucus.

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It causes cold like symptoms.

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So I was like always like that.

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And then I would be taking, you know, pills

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for cold like symptoms, but my body felt great.

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And I'm like, what's going on with me?

419
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But, and you know, around that time,

420
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I said it was so overwhelming.

421
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Like I cut off the girl that I was in love with.

422
00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:13,180
I really wasn't, just had a soul tie.

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I was lust.

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All my friends, I just cut them off.

425
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Didn't want, didn't trust anybody.

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It was, it was a full on like blitz

427
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by the enemy to kill me then.

428
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And, and, and I just felt it.

429
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I was like, I just, I might, I rather just kill myself, man.

430
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I was like, this life sucks.

431
00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:29,380
I felt like I was dying with that disease

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and I didn't know what it was.

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And I was even actually going to the doctors

434
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trying to figure it out and they couldn't figure it out.

435
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So they're thinking it's allergies.

436
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I get allergy shots.

437
00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:38,540
It doesn't do anything.

438
00:14:38,540 --> 00:14:41,340
They're telling me it's, it's this in my nose

439
00:14:41,340 --> 00:14:43,300
and septoplasty, you gotta get this.

440
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And then, but it was none of it.

441
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Cause none of it's, the symptoms didn't stop.

442
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And so I was, I was tormented and I just thought, man,

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I'm just going to kill myself.

444
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And I remember I heard in my kitchen,

445
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I heard a voice, just all the voice that was Richard,

446
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my name, and I didn't know it was God.

447
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I didn't know, but it was such a soothing voice,

448
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so comforting and it brought me peace.

449
00:15:02,420 --> 00:15:04,260
Now I know it was definitely the Holy Spirit,

450
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but I didn't know at the time I thought it was my dead uncle.

451
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I was like, man, my uncle called me and, you know,

452
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but it wasn't, I know it was God at the time,

453
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but it gave me more, you know, encouragement,

454
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but I didn't stop, man.

455
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I got worse.

456
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,420
I'm in New York city now bouncing at clubs.

457
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I'm selling drugs again.

458
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Now I'm meeting people out there.

459
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I'm all, I've been living in Washington Heights,

460
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which is one of the worst areas in New York,

461
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Upper West Side, Manhattan, a lot of gang activity,

462
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a lot of Dominican drug dealing, all that stuff.

463
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I'm in Harlem, working at the YMCA.

464
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So I'm working at the YMCA.

465
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I'm going to school online at UCF now,

466
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and I'm also bouncing in clubs at night.

467
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So, you know, I'm connected.

468
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I'm making money.

469
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I was making about like 50 to 60,000 in total a year.

470
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At the age of 21, that's pretty good.

471
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Got an apartment in New York that has a washer and dryer,

472
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favor, like, right?

473
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Like, and I'm just living a good life, man.

474
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I got girls galore, any girl I want.

475
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They're coming to the apartment.

476
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You know, I got EBT, you know, so now I'm able to even,

477
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I was just a finessor, man.

478
00:16:02,260 --> 00:16:03,220
I was always-

479
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Yeah, you took advantage of the systems

480
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and everything that you had,

481
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and don't blame you for that at all.

482
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You know, you were doing what you could

483
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to survive and thrive.

484
00:16:10,780 --> 00:16:11,620
Exactly.

485
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But you weren't thriving spiritually.

486
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,400
You were actually dying spiritually.

487
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I was dying, man.

488
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And it just, it kept getting worse.

489
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And I remember, I remember just feeling again,

490
00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:23,820
during that time where I was suicidal,

491
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just like I need to get out again.

492
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And I went to a recruiting station

493
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and the guy that I met, you know,

494
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it was a blessing from God, man.

495
00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:32,740
Now that, you know, I know he just,

496
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he was just so cool.

497
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I just was real with him.

498
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I'm like, man, I smoke, I pop pills, I drink.

499
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I want to get into the military just in case.

500
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Cause around that time I have friends,

501
00:16:41,660 --> 00:16:43,860
man, I cut off, all my friends got cut off.

502
00:16:43,860 --> 00:16:46,300
Man, I'm hearing about people, like friends dying.

503
00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:47,540
I'm hearing about different things, man.

504
00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:49,900
I was just going through a lot, people getting locked up.

505
00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:52,260
So I was just like, my cousin actually,

506
00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:55,460
she got locked up for, at the time she got locked up

507
00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:58,340
for kidnapping somebody like,

508
00:16:58,340 --> 00:16:59,980
and you know, we were actually getting close.

509
00:16:59,980 --> 00:17:00,800
Yeah, man.

510
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,060
And it just, around that time, it was like,

511
00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:03,980
it was all just hitting me.

512
00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:05,620
Like it was just depressing.

513
00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:07,260
And I went to the recruiting office, man.

514
00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:09,420
And then I was like, I want to get into the military.

515
00:17:09,420 --> 00:17:12,260
I took the ASVAB, got a really, I got an 81,

516
00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:13,780
like a pretty high score.

517
00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:15,180
It was like 80 or 81.

518
00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:16,660
And I qualified for almost every job,

519
00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:18,820
like everything you can get.

520
00:17:18,820 --> 00:17:21,180
And they said, you know, air traffic control

521
00:17:21,180 --> 00:17:22,500
is a really high paying job.

522
00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:23,960
You can, when you get out the military,

523
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,780
you can make over a hundred, you know, K a year.

524
00:17:25,780 --> 00:17:27,260
And it's a quick schooling.

525
00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:30,580
It's the highest washout rate because it is very hard.

526
00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:31,540
And most people don't make,

527
00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:34,180
they don't make it throughout the schooling in the military.

528
00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:36,740
But me, money, I'm like, I'll take it, come on.

529
00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:38,340
But then even after that, man, like,

530
00:17:38,340 --> 00:17:40,380
I think I've had about five or six months

531
00:17:40,380 --> 00:17:42,220
before I was supposed to join.

532
00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:45,300
July 5th, 2012 was my join date.

533
00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:46,280
And I just, I gave up.

534
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,360
I was like, I'm not going anymore.

535
00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,380
Cause then everything started getting good, right?

536
00:17:49,380 --> 00:17:52,540
Like I started meeting more friends, making more money,

537
00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:53,380
partying more.

538
00:17:53,380 --> 00:17:54,380
Now I'm getting more, you know,

539
00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:57,180
like popular in the area of New York and the city.

540
00:17:57,180 --> 00:17:58,580
I'm starting to make connections.

541
00:17:58,580 --> 00:18:00,980
I'm like, a lot of good things are happening.

542
00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:02,180
And I gave up on it.

543
00:18:02,180 --> 00:18:03,420
I didn't go to Memphis, it's called Memphis.

544
00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:04,500
I didn't check in.

545
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:06,520
And then the recruiter, man, just blowing up my phone,

546
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,620
blowing up my phone, messaging me, not answering,

547
00:18:08,620 --> 00:18:10,340
not answering for months.

548
00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:13,060
You know, a few days before I'm supposed to depth out,

549
00:18:13,060 --> 00:18:14,300
I'm supposed to go.

550
00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:17,100
He comes to Washington Heights, to my apartment,

551
00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:19,900
knocking on, you know, ringing the downstairs door.

552
00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:22,340
I let him in and I'm just like, man, what are you doing here?

553
00:18:22,340 --> 00:18:24,380
He's like, look, man, I just, I want to come talk to you.

554
00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:25,440
Like how much are you making a year?

555
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,100
I'm like, you know, 50 to 60,000.

556
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,660
He's like, you can make that in the military,

557
00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:30,260
but look at what you're doing to make this money.

558
00:18:30,260 --> 00:18:31,740
It's not going to last long.

559
00:18:31,740 --> 00:18:34,640
And I know at the time it was God, man, like using him.

560
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,820
And it was just this overwhelming feeling of peace.

561
00:18:36,820 --> 00:18:38,020
Like I was like, man, he's right.

562
00:18:38,020 --> 00:18:40,180
Like, okay, let's go.

563
00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:42,980
And I just, like, I just took it as a sign, you know,

564
00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:45,740
back then I didn't know God, but I took it as a,

565
00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:47,060
maybe this is a sign.

566
00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:48,500
And I left everything, man.

567
00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,620
And I packed everything in a few days.

568
00:18:50,620 --> 00:18:54,400
Like I had a few days to go, packed everything and left.

569
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,360
And I went to the Navy, made it through bootcamp,

570
00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:02,060
made it through, you know, a school,

571
00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:02,980
air traffic control school.

572
00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:05,240
It was very hard, so hard to the point where, you know,

573
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,640
my hair was falling out, man, literally.

574
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,460
Like it was, it was hard cause I was still drinking.

575
00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:11,260
I was still partying and then living, you know,

576
00:19:11,260 --> 00:19:13,460
I can't take a lot of drugs at this point.

577
00:19:13,460 --> 00:19:15,120
You know, I still ended up eventually taking drugs

578
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,140
while I was in the military, which is not good.

579
00:19:17,140 --> 00:19:17,980
It's bad.

580
00:19:17,980 --> 00:19:18,800
No, definitely not good.

581
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,640
It's bad, man.

582
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,460
It's crazy.

583
00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:22,300
A lot of people do, people don't know that a lot of people

584
00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:25,220
are dealing with a lot of stuff in the military.

585
00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:29,180
It's sad, but yeah, man, like I just, I just, I passed.

586
00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:31,940
I got through and man, I got stationed on back in Jersey.

587
00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:34,620
So like, you know, coming from New York back to Jersey,

588
00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:36,180
I still have my friends in groups in the city.

589
00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:38,540
You know, now I'm like an hour and a half from Manhattan.

590
00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:40,300
I'm living in Seaside Heights.

591
00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:42,140
And man, you would think, you know, things would change.

592
00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:43,780
It got worse, man.

593
00:19:43,780 --> 00:19:45,860
Now I'm working, you know, as a air traffic controller,

594
00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:48,060
but you know, I'm getting to meet the locals in Jersey.

595
00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:50,220
I was very, you know, in the world,

596
00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:51,620
it's kind of like what I do now for the Lord.

597
00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:53,740
I was doing the same thing for the devil.

598
00:19:53,740 --> 00:19:56,060
Like now I evangelize to win souls, right?

599
00:19:56,060 --> 00:19:57,180
Preach the gospel.

600
00:19:57,180 --> 00:19:58,140
Back then it was money.

601
00:19:58,140 --> 00:19:58,960
It was girls.

602
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,220
Like I was able to walk into a club alone

603
00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:04,240
and then just meet people and begin to make friends.

604
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,300
So that's what I used to like going to new areas to do that.

605
00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:08,740
And then, and to just build.

606
00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:09,940
And that's what I did, man.

607
00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:12,240
I started building out there, you know, maintaining,

608
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,540
you know, on the military base, doing what I have to do

609
00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:16,180
and getting close to the locals,

610
00:20:16,180 --> 00:20:19,480
partying a lot, drinking a lot, drinking didn't stop.

611
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,600
Kept drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking,

612
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,860
messing with girls, same thing.

613
00:20:23,860 --> 00:20:27,620
And it led to me drug dealing while I was in the military.

614
00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,700
Well, unfortunately it wasn't, it wasn't good.

615
00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,740
And I did it because I was all about money, man.

616
00:20:32,740 --> 00:20:35,260
Like any time that I had,

617
00:20:35,260 --> 00:20:37,460
I wanted to spend it on making money, you know,

618
00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:41,260
like I want to glorify, I wanted to glorify the devil.

619
00:20:41,260 --> 00:20:42,080
I didn't know that even,

620
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,140
I didn't even know the devil was real, man.

621
00:20:43,140 --> 00:20:45,960
And I started moving, you know,

622
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,220
quarter kilos of Mali and pills.

623
00:20:48,220 --> 00:20:50,580
And then eventually, you know,

624
00:20:50,580 --> 00:20:52,260
something happened with the plug I had

625
00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:54,540
and I transitioned to marijuana

626
00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:56,820
and now I'm back to the marijuana making money.

627
00:20:56,820 --> 00:20:59,500
Cause I know pricing, prices in Jersey are higher.

628
00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,540
I can get it cheaper, you know?

629
00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:03,100
And then I started selling it.

630
00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,020
People are, you know, I know people,

631
00:21:05,020 --> 00:21:06,880
the demand starts getting high

632
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,540
and I decided I'm going to Cali.

633
00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:10,700
So man, I took a trip to Cali, man.

634
00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:12,100
So you were still in the Navy at this time?

635
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,700
Still in the Navy, active duty.

636
00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:17,180
And you know, I was just so crazy.

637
00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:18,340
I was crazy, man.

638
00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:19,420
My friends knew me for that.

639
00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:22,300
Like this guy is wild, like he'll, you know,

640
00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:24,620
and I went to California looking for a plug

641
00:21:24,620 --> 00:21:25,980
and I did find a plug.

642
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,540
And you know, at the time, it was cheap, man.

643
00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:29,700
It was cheap.

644
00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:32,980
I was making, you know, almost, that was like more than double

645
00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:34,920
than what I was buying it for.

646
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,020
And I had a clientele, like I had a lot of clientele

647
00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:38,300
that would buy it quick.

648
00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,640
So now, you know, I bring it back

649
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,820
and I'm making 20,000 every trip, 30,000.

650
00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:43,660
You know what I'm saying?

651
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:44,480
In the military you make-

652
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,820
That's enticing for sure.

653
00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:47,380
Military is not going to pay you that

654
00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:48,940
and you're making that in a weekend.

655
00:21:48,940 --> 00:21:50,040
In a weekend, bro.

656
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,500
So where, so you're living this lifestyle

657
00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:55,960
and it's obviously not leading to a good place

658
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,300
and it eventually leads you into witchcraft and this.

659
00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:00,980
How did you get into this?

660
00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:04,580
Because this is where I'm obviously because of your,

661
00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:08,660
because of this, your YouTube channel, your interviews,

662
00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:10,320
you know, people are interested in this

663
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,220
because it's a little unique, you know,

664
00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:16,940
not everybody has been trained and discipled by a warlock

665
00:22:16,940 --> 00:22:18,020
and then has come to Christ.

666
00:22:18,020 --> 00:22:20,900
So let's kind of jump to that part of it.

667
00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:21,740
Yeah, no problem.

668
00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:23,140
So like, with the marijuana, like, it's like,

669
00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:24,820
I lost a package in the mail

670
00:22:24,820 --> 00:22:26,400
and I was so proud for the time I was making

671
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,220
over a hundred grand at this point a month.

672
00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:30,540
And I wanted to find out who stole it.

673
00:22:30,540 --> 00:22:32,220
And I didn't know if it was even stolen

674
00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:33,820
or if it was confiscated by the feds.

675
00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:35,500
But again, I was so prideful back then,

676
00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:37,340
like I was trying everything I could

677
00:22:37,340 --> 00:22:38,940
in my physical power to do it.

678
00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:41,100
And then the girl I was dating, you know,

679
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:43,220
I had a bunch of girls, but the one, I guess, main chick,

680
00:22:43,220 --> 00:22:44,980
you know, I was like, hey, you know,

681
00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,520
you said your family's spiritual,

682
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,140
like they're in the spirituality.

683
00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:48,980
She's like, yeah, they do.

684
00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:50,780
But, you know, I don't really mess with it that much.

685
00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:51,900
You know, it's, it's cultural.

686
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,420
Like it was part of her family.

687
00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:54,880
Like, well, I need you to hit up your, you know,

688
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,720
your family members.

689
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,420
I need to, I need to ask a question.

690
00:22:57,420 --> 00:22:58,980
I'd never gotten a reading at this point.

691
00:22:58,980 --> 00:23:00,860
I'd never been to anything.

692
00:23:00,860 --> 00:23:02,940
Like I didn't, I honestly didn't believe it was real.

693
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:04,860
Cause you know, being raised in the Catholic church,

694
00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:06,180
they tell you just don't believe it in.

695
00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,180
If you don't believe in it, it's not real, right?

696
00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:09,700
So I'm, you know, but I was so desperate.

697
00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:11,220
And then she, she was very scared.

698
00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:13,020
She was like, nah, I'm not going to do it.

699
00:23:13,020 --> 00:23:14,100
You know, I kind of forced her.

700
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:16,060
I was like, hey, if you don't do it, I'm going to go to,

701
00:23:16,060 --> 00:23:17,320
I'm going to go to Haiti myself.

702
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,780
Cause she was from Haiti.

703
00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:22,380
So she called up her cousin, cousin told her a lot of stuff.

704
00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:25,180
And, and you know, he's, he's a warlock, a full blown warlock,

705
00:23:25,180 --> 00:23:27,540
you know, actually a well-known warlock out there in Haiti.

706
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:30,260
And he, and he told her the only way you can find out

707
00:23:30,260 --> 00:23:32,460
everything you need is if you come to Haiti.

708
00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:34,220
And she thought at that point, like, okay, that's it.

709
00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:35,140
We're done. Like stop.

710
00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:37,060
And I was like, nah, we're going to Haiti.

711
00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:38,580
And she didn't want to go, but I kept,

712
00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:41,160
Hey, if you don't go again, I'm going by myself.

713
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,980
So because you know, she cared about me, she went,

714
00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:46,220
we went to Haiti and I saw things I'd never seen in my life.

715
00:23:46,220 --> 00:23:50,540
I saw, you know, I saw a warlock the first time,

716
00:23:50,540 --> 00:23:54,400
do a ritual using alcohol, cigars, putting on outfits,

717
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,860
dancing, doing like ritualistic worship and summoning,

718
00:23:57,860 --> 00:23:59,860
summoning a demon into his body.

719
00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:02,500
And then the demon speaking through him in a different

720
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:05,140
accent, a different, like, like, like,

721
00:24:05,140 --> 00:24:07,140
literally you see the facial expressions,

722
00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:08,180
everything changed and what it was,

723
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,860
was a demon coming up that was possessing him.

724
00:24:10,860 --> 00:24:13,380
And the demon would speak to you and give you knowledge

725
00:24:13,380 --> 00:24:16,080
that was from the realm of the spirit that was accurate,

726
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,940
a lot of accurate stuff, but there was an agenda behind it.

727
00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:20,780
Right.

728
00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:23,660
And, but it freaked me out as someone who was not spiritual.

729
00:24:23,660 --> 00:24:25,260
I'm like, like, how did he know that?

730
00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:26,580
How did he know that about my childhood?

731
00:24:26,580 --> 00:24:27,940
How did he know that about my mother?

732
00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:29,920
How did he know that about, you know, this,

733
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,180
and it builds your faith.

734
00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:32,460
You know, as they're reading your cards

735
00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:34,540
and they're doing the little rituals and,

736
00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:36,940
and concoctions with your herbs and the different things,

737
00:24:36,940 --> 00:24:39,120
like it freaks you out, man.

738
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,060
It really makes you think like this is real

739
00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:42,340
cause it's true.

740
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:43,840
And that's when the lies come.

741
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,140
So after the devil gives you, you know,

742
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,660
a bunch of truths, like little things that are accurate,

743
00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:49,600
then he comes with the lies.

744
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,340
It's witchcraft, it's control.

745
00:24:51,340 --> 00:24:53,460
And begins to tell me like, okay, you need to do this.

746
00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:54,860
You need to pay this amount of money.

747
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:55,700
We need to go buy this.

748
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:56,740
We need to go to the cemetery

749
00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:58,380
and get the dirt from the cemetery.

750
00:24:58,380 --> 00:25:00,020
We need to get this goat and we need to do this.

751
00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:02,860
And tomorrow come back and we're going to do this ritual.

752
00:25:02,860 --> 00:25:04,620
At this point, I'm like, okay, whatever, let's do it.

753
00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:06,700
Paid him the money, came back the next day.

754
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:08,820
And I remember going into this red hut.

755
00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:09,820
It was like a hut.

756
00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:12,060
And on that property, that compound,

757
00:25:12,060 --> 00:25:14,120
he had like almost like a demonic church.

758
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,620
There was a sanctuary, like it was a, it was, it was big.

759
00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:17,480
It wasn't like a little one.

760
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,860
He owned property, like real estate in Haiti.

761
00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:22,260
And this demonic hut, when we went inside,

762
00:25:22,260 --> 00:25:26,740
had a human skull, like on the altar, had candles, man,

763
00:25:26,740 --> 00:25:28,300
like all types of witchcraft.

764
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:29,440
Like, and it freaked me out.

765
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,780
Even back then, it felt, it felt eerie.

766
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:35,380
It felt, I knew it was off, but I was so prideful

767
00:25:35,380 --> 00:25:38,900
and I was so like just stubborn and it wouldn't give up.

768
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:40,180
And you know, he did a whole ritual.

769
00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:41,920
I had to sign a contract, like everything,

770
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,460
like brought out a contract.

771
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:46,340
I got to write down everything that I want or need.

772
00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:48,300
And then I have to seal it.

773
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:50,300
And you know, he even gave me something to drink,

774
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:51,920
like a potion.

775
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,740
Yeah, man.

776
00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:53,580
It got real, bro.

777
00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:54,400
And then-

778
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,100
Did you have to sign with blood or something too?

779
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:56,920
Sure.

780
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,580
So it was, I didn't have to sign with blood.

781
00:25:58,580 --> 00:26:01,580
I actually, I had to sign and then,

782
00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:06,580
and drink the potion as like, I guess, like a covenant.

783
00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:08,620
Like it was like a weird potion.

784
00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:11,540
And then also the lamb, the goat that I bought,

785
00:26:11,540 --> 00:26:14,220
the little baby goat was, I had to like,

786
00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:16,020
it began to like make noises.

787
00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:16,860
And then he was telling me,

788
00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:18,740
the demon in him was telling me, you know,

789
00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:21,580
that's the goat speaking over your contract.

790
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,660
And confirming it was very, very, it was weird,

791
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:24,700
but it was spiritual.

792
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,060
And everything that was happening,

793
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:29,300
it, I knew that it was, there was something happening.

794
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:31,100
So you were beyond skeptical at this point.

795
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,260
Like you had accepted that this is happening.

796
00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:35,140
The spiritual world is real.

797
00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:36,900
And I'm now a part of it, basically.

798
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,020
That's when my eyes opened, man.

799
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:39,880
That's when I realized, okay, this is real.

800
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,060
The sleep paralysis didn't really too much.

801
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:43,380
That opened up my eyes.

802
00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:45,460
Like, okay, this was real.

803
00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:47,700
Like, how did he know all that?

804
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,140
How did all that, like, there's no way.

805
00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:51,300
There, it can't just be like a guess.

806
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,220
And you know, witches and warlocks,

807
00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:56,660
they can access information from the spirit,

808
00:26:56,660 --> 00:26:59,020
from demons, from the realm of the spirit, through demons.

809
00:26:59,020 --> 00:27:00,700
And really they're called to be, you know, prophets.

810
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,780
And they're called to be prophetess, but prophetess,

811
00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:03,620
but they're using the gifts

812
00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:05,780
and the things that God has given them for the devil.

813
00:27:05,780 --> 00:27:06,780
I didn't know any of that, man.

814
00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:08,260
And then we got back to California

815
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:09,740
at the time we were living in Cali.

816
00:27:09,740 --> 00:27:11,600
My girlfriend, she got pregnant with my first child.

817
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,140
She moved out to Cali with me.

818
00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:14,540
And this is when I went buck wild, man.

819
00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:15,460
This is when I was like, okay,

820
00:27:15,460 --> 00:27:17,040
it's not about the package anymore.

821
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,940
This was so real.

822
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:19,700
I want to know like more.

823
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:23,180
So I started going to LA, going to other Haitian warlocks.

824
00:27:23,180 --> 00:27:24,940
I'm going to Indian mediums.

825
00:27:24,940 --> 00:27:26,100
I'm going to psychics.

826
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,180
I'm going to all types of spiritualists, man.

827
00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:30,060
I'm learning about stuff.

828
00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:32,260
I'm getting evil eyes and crystals.

829
00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:33,900
I'm starting to burn sage.

830
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:36,080
I'm starting to do things to protect my home

831
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,660
and salt and corners and all these things.

832
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:40,880
I'm learning like, and they're telling me, you know,

833
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,660
you're Puerto Rican, Santeria, you know, your ancestors,

834
00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:45,940
they always will tell you your ancestors did this.

835
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:48,220
This is the real religion that, you know,

836
00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:49,420
they don't want you to know about.

837
00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:51,180
This is what you're called to do.

838
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:54,060
And, you know, I felt led to go to New Orleans at the time.

839
00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:55,620
I was like, man, I'm going to New Orleans.

840
00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:57,780
I remember I didn't even tell my girlfriend.

841
00:27:57,780 --> 00:28:00,580
I went secretly, didn't tell her till I was on the plane

842
00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:02,920
because she called me like, hey, I'm going to New Orleans.

843
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,960
And she's like, what are you doing?

844
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,720
I just left, just left, man.

845
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,340
You were driven by the pursuit

846
00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:10,700
of this spiritual demonic power.

847
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:11,540
Yep.

848
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:12,900
Because like, remember, like I said earlier,

849
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,020
like after watching that Truman show,

850
00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:17,580
my entire life like was always what's the purpose of life.

851
00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:18,980
I would ask my dad.

852
00:28:18,980 --> 00:28:20,060
I would ask my mom.

853
00:28:20,060 --> 00:28:23,740
I would always, I was that guy when we would smoke weed,

854
00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:25,140
would ask those type of questions.

855
00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:26,300
Like, what's the purpose of life?

856
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:27,140
What do y'all think?

857
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:27,980
And people would just.

858
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:29,140
You were the philosopher's donor.

859
00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:29,980
Exactly, bro.

860
00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:31,460
I was the philosopher's donor, man.

861
00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:32,700
Literally, literally.

862
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,340
And man, so now I'm in New Orleans

863
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:39,180
and I'm just being led by these demonic spirits

864
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:40,300
to go places.

865
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:42,020
Like I could actually hear their voices,

866
00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:43,860
like legitimately guiding me.

867
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:47,100
And I remember, because the Haitian warlock,

868
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,780
my girlfriend's cousin at the time gave me like items,

869
00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:51,140
gave me things to wear,

870
00:28:51,140 --> 00:28:53,420
put in my, things to put in my wallet, actually a free.

871
00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:55,820
I remember he gave me a laminated paper

872
00:28:55,820 --> 00:28:58,260
with a free Masonic lettering on it

873
00:28:58,260 --> 00:28:59,940
and told me always keep it in your wallet.

874
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:01,100
That's what protects you.

875
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,700
And your guide, your guide will always be with you.

876
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:06,700
So in witchcraft, they have what's called guides

877
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:08,300
or like spirit guides.

878
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:09,140
Yeah.

879
00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:09,980
And they believe that their protection

880
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:11,780
is really just demonic spirits.

881
00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:14,660
But I remember being guided by those spirits

882
00:29:14,660 --> 00:29:17,940
to what's called a botanica, which is a witchcraft store.

883
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:19,340
And when I got there, man,

884
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:21,660
I'll never forget when I walked in,

885
00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:23,140
the guy behind the counter,

886
00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:25,100
that was the leader of that,

887
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,100
he just looked at me and said,

888
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,780
I've been waiting for you.

889
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:29,500
Like he was waiting.

890
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,020
And man, my faith at that point is like,

891
00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:32,860
I'm like, wow.

892
00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:33,940
And you know, he begins to disciple me.

893
00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:36,020
He begins to tell me things.

894
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:37,700
Takes me to the back by the altar.

895
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:39,980
Begins to tell me, you need to do this ritual, this bath,

896
00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:40,820
do this bath.

897
00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:42,900
Starts, you know, blessing me with things and saying,

898
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,020
okay, you know, you need to stay here all week.

899
00:29:45,020 --> 00:29:45,980
You need to come back every day.

900
00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:47,940
And we need to start, I need to start training you.

901
00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:49,100
I'm going daily, man.

902
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,900
And he's telling me, you know, we're going to go.

903
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:53,340
So he was really discipling you into witchcraft.

904
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:55,660
I'm talking about like, bro, like he,

905
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:57,700
like he told me, like he actually used the wording,

906
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:01,300
like his spiritual mother, who was a Haitian lady,

907
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:05,260
was the owner and like the covering of that botanica,

908
00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:06,100
that witchcraft store.

909
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,500
And he was under her and he said,

910
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,700
I was going to be under him.

911
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:11,900
So he was discipling me and training me up in witchcraft.

912
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:13,700
So I was going to be a dual inducted warlock

913
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:18,540
and Haitian Voodoo and like Santaria from Puerto Rico.

914
00:30:18,540 --> 00:30:20,820
So he was discipling me through this process.

915
00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:23,300
And he was, you know, we were planning to go in October

916
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:26,340
around Halloween time to first to Haiti,

917
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:30,260
to sleep in a cemetery for a week and be,

918
00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:32,780
and then after that to Puerto Rico to sleep in a cemetery

919
00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:35,260
for a week, to be dual inducted.

920
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:36,460
What does that exactly mean?

921
00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:37,620
So you understand that.

922
00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:39,380
So usually people will go like, let's say,

923
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:40,740
hate most Haitians will go to Haiti

924
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:43,460
and they'll go sleep in a cemetery for a week or two weeks.

925
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:45,580
And when they go, it's almost like hazing.

926
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:47,780
You get haze, you don't sleep.

927
00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:50,860
That's when they say that you receive

928
00:30:50,860 --> 00:30:52,420
higher ranking spirit guides.

929
00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:55,260
That's when you're inducted, ordained

930
00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:58,540
to be able to like really do what they're doing.

931
00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:00,340
It's like a demonic ordination.

932
00:31:00,340 --> 00:31:01,820
It's demonic seminary.

933
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:02,900
Literally, bro.

934
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:03,740
Literally.

935
00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:07,540
And he wanted me to go to do what he did,

936
00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:10,140
which cause he was a Puerto Rican,

937
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:11,220
but his spiritual mother's Haitian.

938
00:31:11,220 --> 00:31:12,460
So he wanted me to do what he did,

939
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:14,300
which is go to Haiti and Puerto Rico

940
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:16,420
to be dual inducted like him.

941
00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:17,820
And this is what really nailed it.

942
00:31:17,820 --> 00:31:19,100
So he had a real affinity toward you.

943
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,100
He saw something of himself in you.

944
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:21,940
He saw him in me.

945
00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:23,660
He was like, man, you remind me of me.

946
00:31:25,220 --> 00:31:27,060
He felt that connection.

947
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:29,260
And I mean, those spirits were really working

948
00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:32,580
because again, he knew a lot of information about my past.

949
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:34,100
Those spirits were telling him a lot,

950
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,700
to the point where my faith was high.

951
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:37,860
But what really brought my faith to another level

952
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:40,260
was when we were behind the register

953
00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:42,740
and people were shopping and they would come and buy things.

954
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:44,780
And there was actually a female worker there,

955
00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:45,620
but he was like, really,

956
00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:47,900
he would disciple me around the store.

957
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,940
We were behind the register, we're talking,

958
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:51,700
and I see someone walk in.

959
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:54,180
And when I look, man, it was Solange Knowles,

960
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,220
Beyonce's sister.

961
00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:59,900
And as she's walking in, I was so, my heart dropped

962
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,380
cause I thought I was seeing things.

963
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:04,460
And I'm just looking like, I didn't say anything.

964
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:07,780
I'm watching her grab witchcraft items.

965
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:10,020
She's preparing for, I know what she's doing.

966
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,500
She's preparing to do a ritual.

967
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:13,980
It's like when you have to maintain these altars,

968
00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:15,740
in the demonic realm, you have to maintain them

969
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:18,460
through doing rituals and sacrifices onto these deities.

970
00:32:18,460 --> 00:32:19,580
And she was doing that.

971
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:22,100
And she came to the register and I look at him,

972
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:23,100
I was like, is that Solange Knowles?

973
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,620
She's like, oh yeah, she comes here all the time,

974
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:25,460
her and her family.

975
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:28,340
And yeah, man, I was checking her out at the altar.

976
00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:30,220
And she's like, hey, how you doing?

977
00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:31,040
I've been great.

978
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,820
And she's asking him, do you have time?

979
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:33,860
And he's like, not right now

980
00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:37,060
cause I'm busy with somebody cause he was training me up

981
00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:39,620
cause he knew I had to go back to California.

982
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:42,060
And his plan was to continue training me on the phone,

983
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:43,540
which he did when I got back to Cali,

984
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:45,140
we still would talk daily

985
00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:47,340
and we were preparing to go to Haiti and Puerto Rico.

986
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:51,580
But, and she, it blew my mind that it was Solange Knowles.

987
00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:54,400
He used that, like the enemy through him used that

988
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,860
to like really like seal the deal.

989
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:58,380
Cause at that point I'm like, man, this is a celebrity.

990
00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:59,980
And this is around the time she was blowing up,

991
00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:02,420
like she, her album took off and everything.

992
00:33:02,420 --> 00:33:04,380
And I'm like, man, like that's Solange Knowles.

993
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:06,700
He's like, yes, this is what you're going to be doing.

994
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,060
When you see a lot of these artists

995
00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:09,380
and you see a lot of these people

996
00:33:09,380 --> 00:33:10,540
who have the fame and the money,

997
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:14,540
there's usually a Baba Lao or a warlock behind the scenes

998
00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:16,300
who's the one that's doing the rituals for them.

999
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,340
They need power and that's what you're going to do.

1000
00:33:18,340 --> 00:33:19,880
And you're going to, and I'm just like, man,

1001
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,060
I'm thinking in my mind,

1002
00:33:21,060 --> 00:33:23,100
I don't even have to be seen by anyone,

1003
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,420
but I could be behind the scenes

1004
00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:26,780
and I could be like getting the money and the power.

1005
00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:27,600
Yeah.

1006
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,440
You don't need the celebrity.

1007
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,140
You just want everything else that comes with it.

1008
00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:31,020
Exactly, man.

1009
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:34,280
And at this point I was almost sold out.

1010
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,180
I was like, this is it.

1011
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,460
I came back to California.

1012
00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:38,980
This is when me and my girlfriend

1013
00:33:38,980 --> 00:33:40,260
start going through it a lot.

1014
00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:42,740
There's a lot of division, a lot of arguing

1015
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:45,860
because she's telling me that the warlock in Haiti,

1016
00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:47,720
and I don't think I've ever said this before,

1017
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,020
but it's true.

1018
00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:51,060
She was telling me that the warlock in Haiti,

1019
00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:54,300
her cousin was calling her and telling her

1020
00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:57,900
that I need to stop going to other people

1021
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:00,080
that I was supposed to be going through him.

1022
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,660
So I got this warlock in New Orleans

1023
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:02,700
who's really training me up.

1024
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:04,340
The other one in Haiti, her cousin,

1025
00:34:04,340 --> 00:34:06,940
and it's almost like they both wanted me

1026
00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:08,220
to stay loyal to them.

1027
00:34:10,660 --> 00:34:12,220
I just kept going to witchcraft stores.

1028
00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:13,060
I kept learning.

1029
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,580
I'm buying books.

1030
00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:15,860
I'm studying.

1031
00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:18,500
I'm doing my own rituals in my home.

1032
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:21,180
At this point I have an altar with many statues.

1033
00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:22,980
I have all different types of sage.

1034
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:25,260
I start buying thousands of dollars, thousands, man,

1035
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:28,420
probably at least eight to $10,000 worth of crystals.

1036
00:34:28,420 --> 00:34:30,380
So I have, not like the ones you see on TikTok,

1037
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:34,020
but the big crystals at the front door in different areas.

1038
00:34:34,020 --> 00:34:34,860
I'm preparing.

1039
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:36,420
Like I'm thinking this is it, man.

1040
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:38,220
Like I'm really believe my faith is.

1041
00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:41,940
So what is happening to you during these rituals,

1042
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:45,420
during these, whatever it is that you're doing,

1043
00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:47,180
like what is actually happening to you?

1044
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:49,300
Because something had to have been happening

1045
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:51,740
for you to continue to invest thousands of dollars

1046
00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:54,940
into furniture, into decorations.

1047
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:56,620
So these spirits would confirm a lot,

1048
00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:59,380
a lot like of, what's the word for it?

1049
00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:00,940
Like, you know, again, in Christianity,

1050
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:03,420
we call it a Kairos moment or a divine moment.

1051
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,100
Like, so it was a lot of those,

1052
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,260
like it was a lot of like, I would hear their voice

1053
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:09,020
and they would tell me to do certain things

1054
00:35:09,020 --> 00:35:10,380
and things would actually happen.

1055
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:12,020
Like it would be, there would be like,

1056
00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:13,460
I was being guided by spirits

1057
00:35:13,460 --> 00:35:16,220
and it would confirm that they're there.

1058
00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:17,060
You see what I'm saying?

1059
00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:17,900
It's just like-

1060
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:19,220
So you just kept appeasing them

1061
00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:20,660
by doing these different things.

1062
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:22,780
What I always felt was almost like,

1063
00:35:22,780 --> 00:35:25,340
I didn't feel fulfilled and I felt,

1064
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:27,580
there was confusion in me.

1065
00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:30,380
There was not, there wasn't any peace.

1066
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:33,380
It was like a constant work to maintain these,

1067
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:36,140
these altars, but I never felt true peace.

1068
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:39,140
And that's why I kept going to do more rituals

1069
00:35:39,140 --> 00:35:41,540
and meet more witches, more warlocks,

1070
00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:42,980
doing, learning more things.

1071
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:44,860
After that, I learned about shamanism.

1072
00:35:44,860 --> 00:35:47,380
I started being trained up by a shaman, you know,

1073
00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:50,420
actually a worldwide, a worldwide known shaman,

1074
00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:51,900
a famous one from Brazil.

1075
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:55,020
You know, he pulled up to this crystal store

1076
00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:56,580
for a seminar, I signed up for it,

1077
00:35:56,580 --> 00:35:59,220
happened to walk in the day before the seminar.

1078
00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:01,780
I took a whole week, you know, course, like seminar,

1079
00:36:01,780 --> 00:36:03,260
learned how to balance chakras.

1080
00:36:03,260 --> 00:36:05,700
So now I know how to balance chakras over people,

1081
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,140
you know, counterclockwise, clockwise, scattered.

1082
00:36:08,140 --> 00:36:09,300
I'm learning about breath work.

1083
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,540
I'm learning about Cherokee and Syrian, you know,

1084
00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:12,740
witchcraft, like spirits.

1085
00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:14,220
Yeah, man, it got real, bro.

1086
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:15,060
Wow.

1087
00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:17,260
So you're, so there's so many, like basically,

1088
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:20,620
like there's different denominations of the church.

1089
00:36:20,620 --> 00:36:22,740
There's different denominations of witchcraft.

1090
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:24,340
Is that my understanding this correctly?

1091
00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:25,780
That, yeah, it's exactly what it is.

1092
00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:28,260
You're learning all of these different things.

1093
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:29,980
I realized the similarity between them all,

1094
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:31,420
but how there was little differences,

1095
00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:32,660
like you said, denominations,

1096
00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,420
but it was all like the same core values.

1097
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:37,260
And like, it was the same stuff, man.

1098
00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:39,460
And like, even the shaman that was training me up

1099
00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:42,140
for the few weeks that, you know, I knew him, you know,

1100
00:36:42,140 --> 00:36:43,660
he was telling me the same thing.

1101
00:36:43,660 --> 00:36:44,860
This is what you gotta, you know,

1102
00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:46,300
this is your call, you need to go to Peru.

1103
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,100
You know, he was trying to really,

1104
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,700
like really get me to take ayahuasca

1105
00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:51,780
and like have a spiritual trip.

1106
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:52,940
And by the way, I didn't tell you this,

1107
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:54,980
but like years before that, like I actually,

1108
00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:58,340
in 2016 or 2015, I took LSD

1109
00:36:58,340 --> 00:37:00,060
and I had a whole spiritual experience too, man.

1110
00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:02,900
So yeah, man, like it was just a lot of stuff

1111
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:03,740
that was going on.

1112
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:07,460
And then I just, again, I did not have peace.

1113
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:10,580
Like I always had this inner feeling of,

1114
00:37:10,580 --> 00:37:12,260
I gotta go, I gotta do more.

1115
00:37:12,260 --> 00:37:14,060
But the one thing I noticed through it all

1116
00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:18,060
was that every single like witchcraft denomination,

1117
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:20,380
they always mentioned Jesus.

1118
00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:23,100
They would have pictures of Jesus in their offices

1119
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:24,220
or near their altars.

1120
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:25,460
They would have a bunch of other guides,

1121
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:28,300
but there were, Jesus was always there, right?

1122
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,380
And before that in the military,

1123
00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:33,020
I did yoga for three years when I was overseas.

1124
00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:34,540
So I learned about Buddhism, you know,

1125
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,780
and they believe he's a Christ, like a Christ conscious,

1126
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:39,580
you know, and in Santeria, Voodoo and all that,

1127
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:42,340
they'll tell you, yeah, of course we believe in Jesus,

1128
00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:45,180
but they don't believe he's the highest power.

1129
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,860
And if they do believe he's the highest power,

1130
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:49,820
they think that he's allowing the witchcraft

1131
00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:53,900
or the Voodoo guys, like you can't access him directly.

1132
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:56,260
They'll tell you that you can't access Jesus directly.

1133
00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:57,100
You're not allowed to.

1134
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,500
You gotta go through these other guides

1135
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,300
in order to be protected until you rank up.

1136
00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:03,140
It's deception.

1137
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:06,180
So they're using Jesus close,

1138
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,860
but they're keeping him at an arm's length

1139
00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:11,740
so that people are still deceived in this.

1140
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:14,740
So you can't go to Jesus directly.

1141
00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:15,980
You have to go this way.

1142
00:38:15,980 --> 00:38:18,060
So even if you were interested in Jesus,

1143
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:20,420
if you're, because you're being deceived,

1144
00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:22,020
you're putting yourselves in,

1145
00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:24,580
you're tripping over the process to get there.

1146
00:38:24,580 --> 00:38:27,420
So it's not totally denying Jesus,

1147
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:30,540
but it's denying him by obscuring him.

1148
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:32,340
Exactly. That's exactly what it was.

1149
00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:34,820
And man, it was crazy, man.

1150
00:38:34,820 --> 00:38:37,180
Like I just, that thought about Jesus

1151
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:40,220
and just, it led me to a Muslim mosque.

1152
00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:41,380
I remember I went to the mosque

1153
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:42,980
and I started learning about the Quran.

1154
00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:45,300
And when I walked in there and I'll never forget,

1155
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,420
you know, my wife can tell you,

1156
00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:48,500
it was around Halloween time.

1157
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,220
I just remember like, I'm going to a mosque.

1158
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:52,340
I was guided by those spirits to a mosque.

1159
00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:53,460
And I walked in and I remember,

1160
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:55,460
I walked in at the exact time, you know,

1161
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:57,340
for their prayer time on Friday.

1162
00:38:57,340 --> 00:38:59,820
And they just, they happened to be in the parking lot,

1163
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:00,740
walking into the mosque.

1164
00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:01,980
They welcomed me in.

1165
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:04,540
I went through their prayer time or whatever.

1166
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:06,740
And I had all, or at this time, at this point, man,

1167
00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:09,380
I had beads, all types of beads from different deities,

1168
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:11,420
different color beads, evil eyes.

1169
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:13,620
I mean, I'm wearing crystals, all types of stuff.

1170
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:16,700
So like, and then these Muslims are looking at me like,

1171
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:17,540
you know, like this guy, like who-

1172
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:19,340
Did you have the beard at that time?

1173
00:39:19,340 --> 00:39:20,180
I did. You did, okay.

1174
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:22,180
I started growing out and I looked like them.

1175
00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:23,580
I looked like a Muslim.

1176
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:25,300
And I went, I just was straight up like,

1177
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:26,700
hey, I do Voodoo, I do sensory.

1178
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,100
I do like, I do all these things.

1179
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,180
What do you guys believe about it?

1180
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:31,780
And I remember them being like really like fearful,

1181
00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:33,620
like, oh no, no, we don't do that.

1182
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:35,820
Just take this Quran, read this pamphlet.

1183
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:37,220
And no, no, no, no.

1184
00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:38,900
Like there were, there was no confidence.

1185
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:41,260
There was no like, there was no love.

1186
00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:42,180
There was no confidence.

1187
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:43,020
There was no faith.

1188
00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:45,740
It was, it was just like, even back then I was like,

1189
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:47,020
nah, I'm not doing this, man.

1190
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:49,940
Like I'm hearing these guides, I'm seeing things happen.

1191
00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:52,740
And like from these, from the, from doing the witchcraft,

1192
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:53,580
why would I go to this?

1193
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:55,020
They don't even, there's no power.

1194
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:55,980
So I knew it.

1195
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:57,460
I gave that up quick, but man,

1196
00:39:57,460 --> 00:39:59,900
and I remember having the Quran in the,

1197
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:00,820
in my car for a little bit.

1198
00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:04,180
I threw it away, but yeah, man, it just, again,

1199
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:06,260
the package is not even in my mind anymore.

1200
00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:08,540
At this point, I'm just like fully sold out.

1201
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:10,260
I'm still selling drugs, not the weed,

1202
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:12,100
and not as much as I was.

1203
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:14,140
It was, I kind of slowed down a lot.

1204
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:16,500
The girlfriend I was dating was pregnant with my child.

1205
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,260
We went through a lot, a lot of, a lot of division,

1206
00:40:20,260 --> 00:40:21,100
a lot of trauma.

1207
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,300
She tried to kill herself twice during this process, man.

1208
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:26,940
And I just, I was going through a lot, but I didn't care.

1209
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:27,780
I was prideful.

1210
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:29,020
I thought that this was it.

1211
00:40:29,020 --> 00:40:32,340
And what ended up happening, man, is one time that

1212
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:34,900
her cousin, a warlock, the warlock,

1213
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,980
he came from Haiti for our baby shower

1214
00:40:36,980 --> 00:40:38,580
for our first born son.

1215
00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:40,100
And when he, whenever he would come,

1216
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,460
or I would go over there, you know, he would do a reading.

1217
00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:45,180
The first thing you do is you kind of honor them

1218
00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:47,300
and you get a bottle of rum, it's called babakoo.

1219
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:50,140
It's a Haitian rum, and you bring it to the warlock

1220
00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:53,180
and you sit down with them and then he'll put on an outfit,

1221
00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:56,020
play some music and do a ritual, drink the alcohol,

1222
00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:58,860
smoke the cigar, and do whatever he does

1223
00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:01,180
until the spirit possesses him.

1224
00:41:01,180 --> 00:41:02,660
And then it's really coming from inside,

1225
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:04,380
but when the spirit possesses him,

1226
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:05,660
and then the spirit will begin to talk,

1227
00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:06,540
and the girl I was dating,

1228
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:08,500
she could translate the krill for me.

1229
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,740
And I remember we were just going through our regular,

1230
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:12,900
you know, like, how you been, like, how you doing?

1231
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:14,380
You know, because demons can only be at one place

1232
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:16,780
at one time, they can't, they're not omnipresent.

1233
00:41:16,780 --> 00:41:18,500
And he's just talking to me about different things,

1234
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:20,900
you know, giving me, you know, knowledge.

1235
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,740
And then I just remember having this feeling to say,

1236
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:27,460
you know, what about Jesus during that reading?

1237
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:28,660
You were asking, you wanted to ask him?

1238
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:30,340
I wanted to ask him about Jesus.

1239
00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:31,180
Okay.

1240
00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:32,180
Because again, like, all these different-

1241
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:33,300
Where did that thought come from?

1242
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:35,220
Because of all the different denominations,

1243
00:41:35,220 --> 00:41:37,700
or demonic denominations, and even Islam,

1244
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:39,380
which is obviously demonic as well,

1245
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:41,980
like all these different spiritual practices,

1246
00:41:41,980 --> 00:41:43,580
he was the common denominator.

1247
00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:45,580
They saw him differently in a different light,

1248
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:47,060
or a different understanding,

1249
00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:50,180
but why was Jesus always mentioned,

1250
00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:53,180
but never Muhammad, never Buddha?

1251
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:55,140
Mm.

1252
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:55,980
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1253
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:57,260
If you go to a Voodoo shop right now,

1254
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:59,540
you don't see the Quran.

1255
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:02,180
You won't see the Quran, you won't see things about Buddha.

1256
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:03,620
Like, I mean, they do have things about Buddha,

1257
00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:05,620
but it's not, it's like a small part,

1258
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:08,660
but like, they mix Christianity with witchcraft,

1259
00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:11,220
which is what the Bible says in Revelation

1260
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:12,620
about the Nicolations.

1261
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:13,900
They were coming out of that witchcraft,

1262
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,100
and they were mixing it, and the guy that tests that.

1263
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:16,940
Wow.

1264
00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:18,540
So man, yeah, man, I'm there, man,

1265
00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:20,780
and I told her to ask about Jesus.

1266
00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:22,860
I'll never forget the minute she said that,

1267
00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:24,820
he put his head down, he wouldn't look up,

1268
00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:27,100
and he got started getting nervous.

1269
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,020
And then I told her, I said, ask him again,

1270
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:30,820
like about Jesus, he kept saying,

1271
00:42:30,820 --> 00:42:33,140
oh no, no, he was just a man, he was just a man.

1272
00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:36,060
It would take me like a whole day to explain this,

1273
00:42:36,060 --> 00:42:37,940
I can't do it right now, we're gonna have to end this,

1274
00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:39,700
like he started getting nervous.

1275
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:40,980
And I remember, even my girl at the time,

1276
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:45,020
because she was Catholic, she even was like, what?

1277
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:46,900
Like she started speaking without translating,

1278
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:48,140
I'm like, what are you guys talking about?

1279
00:42:48,140 --> 00:42:50,380
Like almost like a little argument,

1280
00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:51,980
and I remember having this anger, man,

1281
00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:53,540
I was like, what is he talking about?

1282
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:55,940
Like he can't tell me about Jesus, like,

1283
00:42:55,940 --> 00:43:00,820
it angered me, and it just got back to my memory.

1284
00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:03,620
I remember I got so mad, man, I was so prideful back then.

1285
00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:06,500
The money, the $57 that you have to give the warlock

1286
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:08,740
or the demon every time you see, do a reading,

1287
00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:10,380
I took the money, and I put it,

1288
00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:11,220
I'm not giving him the money,

1289
00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:12,900
and I remember my girl and even her mom,

1290
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,180
like don't do that, oh my gosh, they're gonna kill,

1291
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:17,420
I was like, I don't care, like, dude, tell me about Jesus.

1292
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:19,420
Like, you know, like, I was so prideful, bro,

1293
00:43:19,420 --> 00:43:21,460
just real, like, just didn't care.

1294
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:25,620
And yeah, man, after that, it just, it really, it hit me,

1295
00:43:25,620 --> 00:43:27,300
like I started messing with my mind,

1296
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,220
and that's when the father started really drawing me

1297
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:30,660
onto the son, like no one comes to the son

1298
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:31,940
unless the father draws him.

1299
00:43:31,940 --> 00:43:36,260
And then, man, that's when God said it's time.

1300
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:37,660
Man, he started sending Christians, man,

1301
00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:39,780
like I remember being in a liquor store,

1302
00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:42,620
and at this point, we moved from Cali to West Palm

1303
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:45,020
to be closer to family in Broward, but not too close,

1304
00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:47,980
because my girl got freaked out in California

1305
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:49,700
because there was like a little earthquake,

1306
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:52,060
the bed shook, and she was like, I'm not living here,

1307
00:43:52,060 --> 00:43:53,020
I have to go, so like.

1308
00:43:53,020 --> 00:43:55,380
I'll deal with hurricanes, I can see those coming.

1309
00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:56,380
Exactly, bro.

1310
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:58,020
So I was like, oh, gosh, okay, whatever.

1311
00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:59,180
And at the time, I was like, it's cool,

1312
00:43:59,180 --> 00:44:00,620
I could rent out my condo.

1313
00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:03,820
At this point, I owned a townhouse in Philly,

1314
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:07,620
condo in San Diego, rent them out, making money.

1315
00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:10,660
I had a bunch of cars, I had two out of white Mercedes Benz,

1316
00:44:10,660 --> 00:44:12,580
black Mercedes Benz, other cars that I was flipping,

1317
00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:14,580
about six or seven of the other cars I was flipping.

1318
00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:16,380
Were you still in the Navy at this time, too?

1319
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:17,340
At this point, I got out.

1320
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:18,340
You got out of the Navy, yeah.

1321
00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:19,180
I was like.

1322
00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:20,460
You did your time and you got out.

1323
00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:23,660
I did my time, I got out, and now I was like, okay,

1324
00:44:23,660 --> 00:44:25,540
this is it, I'm gonna do this.

1325
00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:27,060
My plan was to get inducted

1326
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:29,620
and then go all out with the marijuana,

1327
00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:31,340
because now I had protection, right?

1328
00:44:31,340 --> 00:44:32,180
Mm-hmm.

1329
00:44:32,180 --> 00:44:35,460
But then, again, after I asked about Jesus,

1330
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:37,260
didn't know what was going on, all that stuff,

1331
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:38,260
we're in West Palm Beach,

1332
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:40,700
and I'm at this liquor store in PGA,

1333
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:41,940
and the reason I'm in this liquor store

1334
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:43,860
is to actually launder all my drug money.

1335
00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:46,820
I was working with these Indians, these Hindus,

1336
00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:50,260
on starting a wine bar inside their liquor store,

1337
00:44:50,260 --> 00:44:51,180
because when I was in Europe,

1338
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:52,980
there was a lot of wine bars everywhere,

1339
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:54,300
and I just always thought, okay,

1340
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:58,100
that could be a great idea in PGA, rich area, a lot of money.

1341
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:00,220
We started a little wine bar, a little French,

1342
00:45:00,220 --> 00:45:01,420
wine bar, whatever, it can make money,

1343
00:45:01,420 --> 00:45:02,780
and they were considering it.

1344
00:45:02,780 --> 00:45:06,060
I was bringing them business plans and propositions,

1345
00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:09,020
and we were talking about that for days, actually,

1346
00:45:09,020 --> 00:45:11,500
and then a guy walked in and just looked at me

1347
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,460
and was like, man, you have a light on you.

1348
00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:14,300
You have a light on you.

1349
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:16,660
He starts crying, talking about Jesus.

1350
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:18,220
His name is actually Richard, right?

1351
00:45:18,220 --> 00:45:20,100
So I'm like, okay, that's coincidence,

1352
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,580
but he's just so like, so just like persistent.

1353
00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:25,220
Like, and he's like, look, man,

1354
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:26,500
we're having a little party tonight,

1355
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:27,540
because it's around Halloween time,

1356
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:28,860
and you know, at the time,

1357
00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:31,020
he was a baby Christian, brand new.

1358
00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:34,700
I mean, this guy was wealthy, real estate company,

1359
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,380
you know, all about money, got radically saved,

1360
00:45:38,380 --> 00:45:39,900
you know, him and his wife, you know,

1361
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:41,900
and they lived in that area.

1362
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:43,060
They were actually like,

1363
00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:46,340
they were renovating a very expensive house.

1364
00:45:46,340 --> 00:45:47,180
That's what they did.

1365
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:48,860
He had a company that would renovate homes all over,

1366
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:50,140
but then he would live in some of them,

1367
00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:51,900
like the more expensive ones, renovate it.

1368
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:54,220
Once it's done, he would flip it and go to the next one.

1369
00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:55,660
But anyways, he invited me to his house, man,

1370
00:45:55,660 --> 00:45:56,500
and he was like, come over,

1371
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:57,900
and I thought about, you know,

1372
00:45:57,900 --> 00:45:59,300
this is a business opportunity.

1373
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,940
So me and my girl went, they wouldn't talk about business.

1374
00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:03,220
They kept talking about Jesus.

1375
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:05,380
They kept being too nice and loving,

1376
00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:06,460
to the point where it got annoying.

1377
00:46:06,460 --> 00:46:08,580
And I thought that I told my girl,

1378
00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:10,860
they're swingers, we gotta go.

1379
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:13,420
Yeah, man, I really thought that, like,

1380
00:46:13,420 --> 00:46:15,380
I had no other way to understand it.

1381
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:16,220
Yeah, yeah.

1382
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:17,220
Like, why does this guy keep crying

1383
00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:18,700
when he talks to me about God?

1384
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:20,300
Why is he so persistent?

1385
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,100
I told the guy already that I don't believe

1386
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:22,940
in what he believes in,

1387
00:46:22,940 --> 00:46:25,140
that I got beads around my neck, man, evil eyes.

1388
00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:27,780
Like, you would think the guy would like,

1389
00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:29,100
like respect it, but he didn't.

1390
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,700
He just was so loving and just wouldn't stop.

1391
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:33,980
You know, again, his name is Richard.

1392
00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:35,300
He would not stop messaging me.

1393
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,740
After that time, he just, every week, twice a week,

1394
00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:42,540
come to my church, leave him on read, leave him on read.

1395
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:44,340
And, you know, we moved to a new area again,

1396
00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:45,340
so I needed a barber.

1397
00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:47,540
I remember asking a random guy I saw with a nice fade,

1398
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:48,860
hey, who's your barber?

1399
00:46:48,860 --> 00:46:51,060
And he introduced me to his barber.

1400
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:52,460
He gave me the number to his barber,

1401
00:46:52,460 --> 00:46:54,780
and his barber's name is Paul, right?

1402
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,980
So the first guy was, you know, a white American.

1403
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:00,580
The next one, I met the guy, Paul's a black American,

1404
00:47:00,580 --> 00:47:03,660
and I go to his little barber shop,

1405
00:47:03,660 --> 00:47:06,660
and he's, you know, playing Christian rap.

1406
00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:08,700
And I'm like, this is corny, man, Christian rap.

1407
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:09,620
What was he listening to?

1408
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:11,660
And I'm trying to talk to him about Nipsey Hussle

1409
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:13,540
and all these like worldly rappers,

1410
00:47:13,540 --> 00:47:15,740
secular like rappers that talk about gang banging

1411
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:17,620
and drugs and violence.

1412
00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:18,820
He wouldn't receive it.

1413
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:20,580
He kept telling me he doesn't listen to that stuff.

1414
00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:22,900
He listens to, you know, he believes in Jesus,

1415
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,380
and he, and that's it.

1416
00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:26,060
Like he wouldn't budge.

1417
00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:27,700
That really bothered me too.

1418
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,660
You know, and it was really like,

1419
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:31,580
it was like, it was weird to me.

1420
00:47:31,580 --> 00:47:34,980
Like this black guy, man, like, you know,

1421
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:35,820
he seems pretty cool.

1422
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:37,460
Like he dresses like he got some swag,

1423
00:47:37,460 --> 00:47:38,900
but this is a Christian rap.

1424
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:39,860
This is weird.

1425
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:40,700
It's lying.

1426
00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:41,980
Like I couldn't receive it.

1427
00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:45,100
And then I'm giving you all the little events

1428
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:46,180
where God just starts moving.

1429
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:48,860
Another one, I'm in my apartment.

1430
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:51,660
I'm looking up on YouTube, shamanism,

1431
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:53,220
like balancing chakras and stuff.

1432
00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:56,180
And I ran across a video on my recommended word.

1433
00:47:56,180 --> 00:47:59,620
I saw a reiki healer, a witch getting delivered

1434
00:47:59,620 --> 00:48:00,860
from demons.

1435
00:48:00,860 --> 00:48:03,500
I remember clicking on it and I see Torben Sandergaard,

1436
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:05,300
we spoke about him earlier from the last,

1437
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:07,380
the last reformation, mighty man of God.

1438
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:09,660
He was, he brought her to Christ and in the bathroom,

1439
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:11,820
you know, she's getting baptized in the tub.

1440
00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:12,860
And he starts praying over her.

1441
00:48:12,860 --> 00:48:15,140
She starts getting devils casted out of her, this witch.

1442
00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:17,420
And she's like, and as I'm watching this,

1443
00:48:17,420 --> 00:48:20,260
I could feel it, like literally feel

1444
00:48:20,260 --> 00:48:22,700
like something spiritual, like a pool, like a,

1445
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,660
it was, it was the demons in me that were like there.

1446
00:48:24,660 --> 00:48:26,460
So you, you, you say that there would be,

1447
00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:28,340
that there were demons in you.

1448
00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:30,900
Oh, back then I didn't know, but now that I'm saved,

1449
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:32,020
now I'm a hundred percent.

1450
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:32,860
Yeah.

1451
00:48:32,860 --> 00:48:33,700
Oh yeah, man.

1452
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:35,260
I went through a deliverance process when I came to Christ,

1453
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:36,100
man, I-

1454
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:36,940
We'll talk about that in a minute, but yeah.

1455
00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:37,780
Yeah, man, I had to go through a lot.

1456
00:48:37,780 --> 00:48:38,620
Yeah.

1457
00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:40,300
But yeah, man, I just, at that time I was like,

1458
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:42,420
I called my girl like, hey, come here, look at this.

1459
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:44,260
Like, look at this Christian guy.

1460
00:48:44,260 --> 00:48:48,180
And you know, I'm looking at it like, man, this is crazy.

1461
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:50,260
Like Christians have power.

1462
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:52,500
So I remember they had, they have a, they have a map,

1463
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:55,060
like a map, kind of like Isaiah Salvador does, like a map,

1464
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:57,260
but he has like a map for different house churches

1465
00:48:57,260 --> 00:48:58,660
and different people that you can reach out to.

1466
00:48:58,660 --> 00:49:00,620
And I found someone in the area we were living

1467
00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:02,980
in Jupiter beach and I reached out to her,

1468
00:49:02,980 --> 00:49:04,700
this lady named Sharon.

1469
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:07,420
And you know, she answered, she called me back.

1470
00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:08,260
We started talking.

1471
00:49:08,260 --> 00:49:09,740
I told her about everything,

1472
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:11,260
about my girlfriend being pregnant.

1473
00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:15,020
I'm in witchcraft, like tell me more.

1474
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:18,500
And she just bold, but it's bold.

1475
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:20,900
Like it's about Jesus and what you're doing is wrong.

1476
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:23,820
And just unashamed, like, but it's very loving.

1477
00:49:23,820 --> 00:49:25,940
And I felt a peace with her.

1478
00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:27,060
Every time I would talk to her,

1479
00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:28,980
she would pray for me and I would feel the peace.

1480
00:49:28,980 --> 00:49:32,020
So that led me, man, all these, you know, these events,

1481
00:49:32,020 --> 00:49:34,660
and as far as the order, it was all around the same time,

1482
00:49:34,660 --> 00:49:36,500
but it led to me buying a Bible.

1483
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:37,620
I remember calling one of my friends

1484
00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:39,820
that I was in the drug game with actually in Dallas.

1485
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:41,220
He was moving a lot of weight,

1486
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:43,580
a lot of pounds of weed in Dallas for me.

1487
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:44,940
You know, he, I called him, I said, man,

1488
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:46,220
I think we got to buy a Bible, man.

1489
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:48,420
Like I never thought it was a Bible.

1490
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:51,340
You normally call him about moving marijuana.

1491
00:49:51,340 --> 00:49:53,580
Now you're talking about moving the word of God.

1492
00:49:53,580 --> 00:49:56,420
All about weed, all about, it was money, money, money,

1493
00:49:56,420 --> 00:49:58,700
our whole life, credit card, scamming with him.

1494
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:00,860
That was my best friend.

1495
00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:02,780
And it's crazy because recently we just went to Dallas

1496
00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:03,620
for a revival.

1497
00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:04,940
He actually came to Christ.

1498
00:50:04,940 --> 00:50:05,780
Amen.

1499
00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:06,620
Crazy, man.

1500
00:50:06,620 --> 00:50:09,260
It's crazy what God is doing, but yeah, man, I just,

1501
00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:10,100
I was like, man.

1502
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:10,940
So you need to get this Bible.

1503
00:50:10,940 --> 00:50:12,260
I said, we got to get this Bible off Amazon.

1504
00:50:12,260 --> 00:50:13,100
Buy it with me, bro.

1505
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:14,940
Like I was kind of like, you buy yours, he's in Dallas.

1506
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:16,060
I'm like, I'll buy mine.

1507
00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:18,180
He's like, all right, bro, whatever, let's do it.

1508
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:19,420
Bought it off Amazon.

1509
00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:21,820
I remember even calling my dad, I mean, he's backtrack.

1510
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:23,140
I remember calling my dad.

1511
00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:25,700
I was telling him about all the witchcraft I'd been doing

1512
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:28,660
and telling him that it's part of our ancestral line

1513
00:50:28,660 --> 00:50:29,500
in Puerto Ricans.

1514
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:33,140
And I remember my dad, even though he was unsaved,

1515
00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:38,140
lukewarm, like smoked weed, drinks, does coke, parties,

1516
00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:40,420
that, like not a good role model

1517
00:50:40,420 --> 00:50:41,540
when it comes to being a Christian.

1518
00:50:41,540 --> 00:50:44,580
He's still, because of my grandmother, his mother,

1519
00:50:44,580 --> 00:50:46,260
would always tell me, no, the blood of Jesus,

1520
00:50:46,260 --> 00:50:47,540
no, the blood of Jesus.

1521
00:50:47,540 --> 00:50:49,300
You need to get a Bible, the blood of Jesus.

1522
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:50,340
So throughout this whole process,

1523
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:52,420
when I would talk to my dad occasionally

1524
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:54,740
about what I'm doing, he would always just stand firm

1525
00:50:54,740 --> 00:50:55,820
with the blood of Jesus, the blood of Jesus.

1526
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:57,620
So you weren't being secretive about what you were doing.

1527
00:50:57,620 --> 00:50:58,940
I was actually promoting it.

1528
00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:01,100
So I was actually trying to convince my parents

1529
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,060
to do it as well, because I thought it was good.

1530
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:04,780
I was actually trying to go to their home

1531
00:51:04,780 --> 00:51:05,940
and bless their home.

1532
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:07,140
I actually did do it.

1533
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:09,260
I actually went to the home without them asking,

1534
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:11,140
went into one of their rooms,

1535
00:51:11,140 --> 00:51:13,540
and I actually created an altar.

1536
00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:14,940
So you were blessing them in a demonic way.

1537
00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:16,180
And I thought it was the right thing.

1538
00:51:16,180 --> 00:51:18,020
I remember when they, actually when they left,

1539
00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:19,380
it's crazy, bro.

1540
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:20,580
Now this is all coming back right now.

1541
00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:21,460
This is crazy.

1542
00:51:21,460 --> 00:51:23,500
One day, you know, they had left to go get dinner

1543
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:25,500
or work or something.

1544
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:26,500
They were at work.

1545
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:27,700
I remember I went around the whole house

1546
00:51:27,700 --> 00:51:31,140
putting salt in corners, like blessing the house,

1547
00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:31,980
but it was rituals.

1548
00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:33,540
I thought I was doing the right thing,

1549
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:35,620
but later on when I came to Christ,

1550
00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:37,220
I actually had to go and clean it all up.

1551
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:38,860
That was gonna be my follow-up.

1552
00:51:38,860 --> 00:51:39,700
Did you clean it up?

1553
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:41,580
I told them everything, and it's crazy, man.

1554
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:43,100
But I got this Bible.

1555
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:44,940
It finally came in through Amazon.

1556
00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:46,100
First time I picked up a Bible,

1557
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:48,940
I went out in my neighborhood at the time

1558
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:51,940
in Jupiter Beach, went by the water.

1559
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:52,780
I'll never forget this, man.

1560
00:51:52,780 --> 00:51:54,620
I went by the water, sat down,

1561
00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:56,140
was about to crack open the Bible.

1562
00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:58,700
It's like a weekday, midday, man, everyone's at work,

1563
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:01,260
and this guy walking his dog, walking by,

1564
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:03,620
his name is John, he just happened to be like,

1565
00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:04,540
hey man, what's that?

1566
00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:05,540
Like stops.

1567
00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:07,700
It's a Bible.

1568
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:09,020
He's like, oh, he knows it's a Bible.

1569
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:10,020
He comes next to me.

1570
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:10,860
He's like, what are you reading?

1571
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:12,660
I was like, well, this is the first time I bought a Bible.

1572
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:13,860
I don't know what I'm doing.

1573
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:14,740
So he sits down with me.

1574
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:15,580
He's a pastor, man.

1575
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:17,580
He's a, he pastors Bible studies.

1576
00:52:17,580 --> 00:52:19,500
Like he's a teacher.

1577
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,980
And man, he just starts pouring into me.

1578
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:23,540
He says, you know, starting the book of Romans.

1579
00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:25,300
A lot of people get saved through Romans.

1580
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:27,020
It's the gospel learned about the book of Romans.

1581
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:28,500
And he said, you need to get commentary,

1582
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:30,940
download the BLB app, the Blue Letter Bible app.

1583
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:31,780
Love that one.

1584
00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:33,420
Because the Bible I bought was KJV, right?

1585
00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:34,260
Oh goodness, yeah.

1586
00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:36,100
That's a tough one to start out with.

1587
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,900
So like, he was like, man, make sure that when you read,

1588
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:40,420
you know, you understand what you're reading.

1589
00:52:40,420 --> 00:52:41,380
He taught me about like, you know,

1590
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:44,260
like different translations and, you know,

1591
00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:45,100
just even the concordance.

1592
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,500
That was definitely the Lord helping you right away.

1593
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:49,260
Cause if you're, if you're by yourself

1594
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:50,620
trying to do the King James Version,

1595
00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:52,220
you need the Holy Spirit right away.

1596
00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:54,020
But this is a great way that the Holy Spirit

1597
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:56,540
brought somebody to help you in this process.

1598
00:52:56,540 --> 00:52:58,020
I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would've, I would've,

1599
00:52:58,020 --> 00:52:59,580
I would've been like, forget this.

1600
00:52:59,580 --> 00:53:00,660
But I needed him, man.

1601
00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:02,460
You're right, bro.

1602
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:03,300
That was God.

1603
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:05,060
And he just, and he was just so loving, man.

1604
00:53:05,060 --> 00:53:05,900
He got my number.

1605
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:07,220
He would always check up on me.

1606
00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:08,980
He would actually drive like an hour and a half

1607
00:53:08,980 --> 00:53:10,900
from where he lived once a week.

1608
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:12,020
He would bring pizza and everything.

1609
00:53:12,020 --> 00:53:15,500
He would bring boxes of pizza and just sit down and go,

1610
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:16,420
you know, go over the word with me.

1611
00:53:16,420 --> 00:53:17,540
This is later on when I got saved.

1612
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:20,380
But anyways, man, like he really just

1613
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:21,900
planted that seed and I just began to read

1614
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,380
the book of Romans and I had this desire to make sure,

1615
00:53:24,380 --> 00:53:26,260
again, like I understood everything I read.

1616
00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:28,980
Like I would read a verse, not understand what it meant.

1617
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:31,860
I would go and I would Google it, go on YouTube.

1618
00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:34,700
I would look up context, commentary, you know,

1619
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:37,180
like whatever needed to be done to understand it.

1620
00:53:37,180 --> 00:53:39,260
And I'm sorry, and I'm understanding it as I'm reading.

1621
00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:41,980
So you still hadn't given your life to Christ yet.

1622
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:43,460
You're still in the exploratory side.

1623
00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:44,860
Yeah, man, I'm in the exploratory side.

1624
00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:47,780
And like, so again, all these things are happening at once.

1625
00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:50,340
Now this is one of the big events that really freaked me

1626
00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:51,180
out, man.

1627
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:52,460
That guy Richard, remember I told you,

1628
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:53,660
he'd always text me, come to the church,

1629
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:55,140
come to the church.

1630
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:57,420
You know, now that all this is kind of like happening already,

1631
00:53:57,420 --> 00:54:00,980
like I'm in that process.

1632
00:54:00,980 --> 00:54:02,700
I was like, OK, man, I'll go to your church.

1633
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:03,380
He freaks out.

1634
00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:04,300
Oh my God, you answered.

1635
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:05,380
Oh my God, come to my church.

1636
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:05,980
Like he's like, yes.

1637
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:07,260
He hadn't heard from you in how long?

1638
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:08,980
Man, it had to be weeks at this point,

1639
00:54:08,980 --> 00:54:11,940
like at least like three, three weeks, four weeks.

1640
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:12,660
I don't know.

1641
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:13,580
It was a minute, man.

1642
00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:15,540
It was a good, I've been dodging.

1643
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:17,700
I was dodging him for at least four weeks.

1644
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:19,900
And he was just like, come on, man, you got to come.

1645
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:20,860
I'm going to my church.

1646
00:54:20,860 --> 00:54:21,580
OK, he's excited.

1647
00:54:21,580 --> 00:54:22,300
He calls me.

1648
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:23,300
I'm going to see you there.

1649
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:24,540
I'll be waiting in the lobby.

1650
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:25,100
I'll be there.

1651
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:26,860
Like, man, here we go again, man.

1652
00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:28,820
Like I told my girl, we're going to go to church.

1653
00:54:28,820 --> 00:54:29,700
She's like, whatever.

1654
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:31,220
Like she came.

1655
00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:32,140
He met us in the lobby.

1656
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:33,860
Like, oh, I'm so glad he's crying.

1657
00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:36,500
Like this grown man, like, thank you for coming.

1658
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:36,980
Oh, like.

1659
00:54:36,980 --> 00:54:38,620
Again, these weird emotional Christians.

1660
00:54:38,620 --> 00:54:39,380
Yeah, yeah.

1661
00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:41,940
And I'm like, man, OK, why is he so whatever?

1662
00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:43,140
And he gives me some donuts.

1663
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:45,020
You know, they had donuts in the front, coffee, whatever.

1664
00:54:45,020 --> 00:54:46,100
We walk into the sanctuary.

1665
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:49,860
It's a pretty big church, family church in West Palm Beach.

1666
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:53,020
You know, kind of like a pastoral mega church type

1667
00:54:53,020 --> 00:54:53,540
of thing.

1668
00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:55,980
Not a huge mega church, but it's a good sized church.

1669
00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:58,300
And then I walk in, bro, and this is what hit me.

1670
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:01,540
As I walk in, you know, I look to the right, see the stage,

1671
00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:03,820
and I see the worship leader.

1672
00:55:03,820 --> 00:55:07,260
And it's Paul, man, the barber guy.

1673
00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:09,260
So he's the lead worshiper.

1674
00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:09,780
Yeah.

1675
00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:10,700
He's the lead worshiper.

1676
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:12,700
And I'm looking at Richard like, do you know him?

1677
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:14,420
He's like, nah, he's our worship leader.

1678
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:15,580
I don't know him personally.

1679
00:55:15,580 --> 00:55:16,820
I don't really know him.

1680
00:55:16,820 --> 00:55:18,100
Like, bro, he's my barber.

1681
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,180
He just, he's.

1682
00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:23,300
And so that's just, you know, super coincidental.

1683
00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:24,180
And it's just freaking me.

1684
00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:25,100
That is not coincidental.

1685
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:25,580
Not at all.

1686
00:55:25,580 --> 00:55:26,100
Yeah.

1687
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,380
So my faith is like, again, now I'm like freaking out.

1688
00:55:29,380 --> 00:55:31,340
And they start playing Reckless Love, like how he leaves

1689
00:55:31,340 --> 00:55:32,260
the 99 for the 1.

1690
00:55:32,260 --> 00:55:34,500
And that song just wrecked me, bro.

1691
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:35,140
It wrecked me.

1692
00:55:35,140 --> 00:55:37,780
Like, that's the first time I felt like the presence of God

1693
00:55:37,780 --> 00:55:38,300
hit me.

1694
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:40,660
I didn't surrender to God, but I felt the presence of God

1695
00:55:40,660 --> 00:55:41,700
hit me.

1696
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:44,620
I remember the pastors praying for me.

1697
00:55:44,620 --> 00:55:46,660
And you know, they didn't, that church,

1698
00:55:46,660 --> 00:55:48,980
they don't really move in deliverance and like the super,

1699
00:55:48,980 --> 00:55:52,340
like they're not super charismatic, you know,

1700
00:55:52,340 --> 00:55:54,300
but they, God used them.

1701
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:56,980
And then that's what just gave me even more of a fuel

1702
00:55:56,980 --> 00:55:58,700
around that time to keep reading the Bible.

1703
00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:00,700
But this is when everything got, you know,

1704
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:01,620
I gave my life to Christ.

1705
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:03,060
Like, I kept reading the Bible.

1706
00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:04,380
As I'm reading the Bible, I'm crying.

1707
00:56:04,380 --> 00:56:04,980
I'm crying.

1708
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:07,220
Like, I'm starting to really understand what's going on.

1709
00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:09,540
And I was in my apartment one day.

1710
00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:11,420
And as I'm reading, again, the book of Romans,

1711
00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:12,860
I'm not finished with it.

1712
00:56:12,860 --> 00:56:15,220
But I'm like halfway through Romans 7, Romans 8.

1713
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:16,300
I don't remember.

1714
00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:19,220
I remember just stopping, putting the Bible down,

1715
00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:21,380
and just really catching the revelation.

1716
00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:23,020
Like, it's Jesus.

1717
00:56:23,020 --> 00:56:23,940
It's Jesus.

1718
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,300
Because everything clicked.

1719
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,300
The warlock being scared of the name of Jesus.

1720
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,260
John, that guy, I remember I told him I was in the witchcraft.

1721
00:56:30,260 --> 00:56:32,140
He always, all he would tell me is,

1722
00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:33,900
then use the name of Jesus.

1723
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:34,900
Use the name of Jesus.

1724
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:38,340
You know, with Paul not being compromised with the music.

1725
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:40,740
The lady Sharon, who would call me periodically,

1726
00:56:40,740 --> 00:56:41,420
praying for me.

1727
00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:42,260
I would feel peace.

1728
00:56:42,260 --> 00:56:44,500
So like everything just like, boom.

1729
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:46,460
And it's such a short amount of time,

1730
00:56:46,460 --> 00:56:48,420
within like four to six weeks.

1731
00:56:48,420 --> 00:56:49,580
Like, it was quick.

1732
00:56:49,580 --> 00:56:50,180
Yeah.

1733
00:56:50,180 --> 00:56:52,580
And that's when I realized, OK, it's Jesus.

1734
00:56:52,580 --> 00:56:55,260
The minute I caught that revelation in my heart,

1735
00:56:55,260 --> 00:56:58,660
like I really believed it, it's like a light.

1736
00:56:58,660 --> 00:57:00,860
The presence of God, an atmosphere came into the room.

1737
00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:01,860
It was a light.

1738
00:57:01,860 --> 00:57:04,060
Kind of like the light when I had the sleep paralysis.

1739
00:57:04,060 --> 00:57:06,740
But it was way more overwhelming than that.

1740
00:57:06,740 --> 00:57:08,860
And it was so overwhelming, the weight.

1741
00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:09,780
I fell to the ground.

1742
00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:10,940
I got knocked to the ground.

1743
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:13,660
Like, I felt the weight hit me to the point where I knocked.

1744
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:14,900
I fell out.

1745
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:15,420
Wow.

1746
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:16,340
I fell out.

1747
00:57:16,340 --> 00:57:19,420
And I just began to profuse to cry, snot coming out.

1748
00:57:19,420 --> 00:57:20,300
I began to cough up.

1749
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:21,540
I was getting delivered.

1750
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:22,500
I was getting delivered.

1751
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:24,460
Like, I'm screaming.

1752
00:57:24,460 --> 00:57:26,180
Like, I'm having an experience.

1753
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:27,860
I don't know what's going on.

1754
00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:30,100
And at that point, it's like my soul,

1755
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:31,260
it's like I wasn't there, bro.

1756
00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:32,660
It's like time stopped.

1757
00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:33,940
And I was in an experience.

1758
00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:37,500
Like, my soul, I was just like out of my body,

1759
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:38,500
and all this is happening.

1760
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:41,460
I'm coughing up, snot coming out, crying.

1761
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:43,980
Like, I'm going through it.

1762
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:45,140
I'm getting delivered, man.

1763
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:46,140
I didn't know what deliverance was,

1764
00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:48,060
but I'm getting delivered.

1765
00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:51,260
And I remember just after like 20 minutes getting up, man,

1766
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:59,420
and having so much peace, this overwhelming internal peace

1767
00:57:59,420 --> 00:58:01,020
that I've never experienced.

1768
00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:02,260
You hadn't felt that in years.

1769
00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:03,300
The purpose of life.

1770
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:04,260
Yeah.

1771
00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:04,860
It hit me.

1772
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:06,580
It wasn't knowledge.

1773
00:58:06,580 --> 00:58:09,380
It wasn't all the things I was studying.

1774
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:10,340
It was a knowing.

1775
00:58:10,340 --> 00:58:13,260
I knew this is it.

1776
00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:15,420
I remember I even spoke in tongues, man.

1777
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:16,260
Really?

1778
00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:17,420
And it wasn't a demonic tongue.

1779
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:18,420
It was tongues, man.

1780
00:58:18,420 --> 00:58:19,060
I remember like.

1781
00:58:19,060 --> 00:58:20,860
Had you spoken in demonic tongues before?

1782
00:58:20,860 --> 00:58:21,620
No, I never.

1783
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:22,780
You never did that.

1784
00:58:22,780 --> 00:58:25,620
That is real, but I never did that.

1785
00:58:25,620 --> 00:58:30,140
But I remember feeling like a fire, like a bubbly feeling.

1786
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:33,540
Just da-da-da-da-da.

1787
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:36,260
It wasn't crazy, but I was speaking in tongues.

1788
00:58:36,260 --> 00:58:37,820
And I remember just getting up.

1789
00:58:37,820 --> 00:58:39,140
I just was like, Jesus.

1790
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:42,380
I felt, bro, I felt what I feel right now, man,

1791
00:58:42,380 --> 00:58:44,020
is presence is anointing.

1792
00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:45,940
I just felt everything I needed to feel,

1793
00:58:45,940 --> 00:58:47,860
just to know it was a tangible encounter.

1794
00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:48,780
It was an experience.

1795
00:58:48,780 --> 00:58:49,580
It was real.

1796
00:58:49,580 --> 00:58:50,820
And I knew it was Jesus, man.

1797
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:52,980
And that's when my girl came home.

1798
00:58:52,980 --> 00:58:54,860
And I was just like, look, I was so peaceful.

1799
00:58:54,860 --> 00:58:56,660
I was like, it's Jesus.

1800
00:58:56,660 --> 00:58:58,060
She's like, again?

1801
00:58:58,060 --> 00:58:59,940
Now it's another one?

1802
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,860
I know it's Jesus, because she's Catholic.

1803
00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:02,980
She's like, so what?

1804
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:04,500
And I'm like, nah.

1805
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:05,740
It's Jesus.

1806
00:59:05,740 --> 00:59:07,260
It's for real.

1807
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:09,500
She curses me out.

1808
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:10,260
She's tired of it.

1809
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:12,540
Because I told her, I said, we can't even date.

1810
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:15,380
Girlfriend and boyfriend, this thing, this fornication ends.

1811
00:59:15,380 --> 00:59:17,620
She's seven months pregnant with my child, man.

1812
00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:18,300
Wow.

1813
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:20,420
Because the lady, Sharon, that was discipling me

1814
00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:23,580
at the time, she, mighty woman of God, shout out to Sharon.

1815
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:26,060
I love her so much.

1816
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:30,180
4'10", white lady, but powerful prayer warrior, bro.

1817
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:31,460
I love her so much.

1818
00:59:31,460 --> 00:59:32,180
She helped us out.

1819
00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:34,100
She still helps us out so much.

1820
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:37,060
But I'm so grateful for her, man.

1821
00:59:37,060 --> 00:59:39,020
Thank God, because she helped me out.

1822
00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:42,060
She told me, you can't be in fornication.

1823
00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:44,180
What looks like sin is sin.

1824
00:59:44,180 --> 00:59:45,300
You can't live in that bed.

1825
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:46,220
You can't sleep in that bed.

1826
00:59:46,220 --> 00:59:48,100
And I told her, the girlfriend, boyfriend

1827
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:48,940
is not going to work.

1828
00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:50,100
We can't fornicate.

1829
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,140
I'm going to sleep in a separate room on the floor.

1830
00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:54,660
She's freaking out, crying, cursing me out.

1831
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:56,380
And I just had peace.

1832
00:59:56,380 --> 00:59:58,980
I told her, I got to burn all the witchcraft.

1833
00:59:58,980 --> 01:00:00,700
This is when she was like.

1834
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:03,900
So you literally had this 20 minute or so experience

1835
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:07,660
where you had this revelation of it's Jesus.

1836
01:00:07,660 --> 01:00:08,860
You went through deliverance.

1837
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:11,740
You got filled with the Holy Spirit all at the same time.

1838
01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:14,900
And then your girlfriend comes back and you said,

1839
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:17,220
night and day, the switch flipped.

1840
01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:19,500
She's now experiencing somebody completely different

1841
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:20,380
than when she left you.

1842
01:00:20,380 --> 01:00:20,900
Yes, sir.

1843
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:22,740
And when you hear her testimony, she'll

1844
01:00:22,740 --> 01:00:25,420
tell you that's one of the main reasons she actually

1845
01:00:25,420 --> 01:00:27,180
considered God Jesus.

1846
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:31,020
Because she saw me change from who I was.

1847
01:00:31,020 --> 01:00:33,860
And it was like you said, night and day, bro.

1848
01:00:33,860 --> 01:00:35,300
Radical, like 180.

1849
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:36,500
Boom, just changed.

1850
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:37,940
And it freaked her out a little bit.

1851
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:40,580
And that's what's better to see God.

1852
01:00:40,580 --> 01:00:42,620
Because I gave up everything, man.

1853
01:00:42,620 --> 01:00:44,940
I was an alcoholic, gave up the alcohol.

1854
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:45,860
Instantly.

1855
01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:46,980
Or I didn't.

1856
01:00:46,980 --> 01:00:48,660
I told her I was like, I'm not going back.

1857
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:49,900
She didn't believe it.

1858
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:52,260
Obviously, over time she saw I didn't go back.

1859
01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:53,340
I was just done.

1860
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:56,020
I used to drink fifths of Hennessy, bro.

1861
01:00:56,020 --> 01:00:57,740
Sometimes one in one night.

1862
01:00:57,740 --> 01:00:58,980
A fifth is a lot.

1863
01:00:58,980 --> 01:00:59,500
Two nights.

1864
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:00,700
I was alcoholic.

1865
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:01,780
I used to drink.

1866
01:01:01,780 --> 01:01:03,420
Gave it all up.

1867
01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:05,260
The alters, all the money I invested into.

1868
01:01:05,260 --> 01:01:07,060
And that's what really I think, that's

1869
01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:09,860
what really freaked out too, is like all the thousands

1870
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:10,940
of dollars I spent.

1871
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:16,340
I had a 22 karat gold ankh, which is that Egyptian cross.

1872
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:17,060
It's false, man.

1873
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:20,340
They believe it's witchcraft.

1874
01:01:20,340 --> 01:01:21,820
I didn't even pawn it, bro.

1875
01:01:21,820 --> 01:01:22,460
I took that off.

1876
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:23,860
I had a $300 evil eye.

1877
01:01:23,860 --> 01:01:28,140
I had all the beads that she saw me go to witches and warlocks.

1878
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:29,420
She saw them sometimes.

1879
01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:30,980
She would go with me, them blessed,

1880
01:01:30,980 --> 01:01:33,580
putting it in Florida water, blowing cigar smoke over,

1881
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:34,500
doing a ritual.

1882
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:36,780
She saw me take it off, throw everything in the bag,

1883
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,340
all the statues on the altar in our kitchen that I had.

1884
01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:40,860
I just threw everything in the bag.

1885
01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:42,100
The sage threw it in the bag.

1886
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:44,460
I even was so like, I was so radical.

1887
01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:46,820
I was like, man, this designer clothes is demonic.

1888
01:01:46,820 --> 01:01:47,820
I didn't have to do that.

1889
01:01:47,820 --> 01:01:48,620
I didn't have to.

1890
01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:50,700
But I was so like, you know, I was lit up.

1891
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:51,140
I don't care.

1892
01:01:51,140 --> 01:01:52,860
Like, whatever you want.

1893
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:54,740
And she was freaked out.

1894
01:01:54,740 --> 01:01:56,380
And I told her, I said, look, I'm

1895
01:01:56,380 --> 01:01:58,980
going to the reserve behind our neighborhood.

1896
01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:00,580
I'm going to the wildlife reserve.

1897
01:02:00,580 --> 01:02:02,420
I know it's off limits, but I'm going.

1898
01:02:02,420 --> 01:02:03,820
And I'm going to start a bonfire,

1899
01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:05,900
and I'm going to burn everything.

1900
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:09,940
And she was just like, I'll go with you, you know, at the time.

1901
01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:12,380
And I remember she put like, it was cold outside,

1902
01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:13,500
it was a little chilly.

1903
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:15,540
She put like this white blanket over her, man.

1904
01:02:15,540 --> 01:02:17,340
And we went, and we walked out there.

1905
01:02:17,340 --> 01:02:20,260
I remember I had went to Walmart before that, got a bunch of wood,

1906
01:02:20,260 --> 01:02:24,140
got the lighter fluid, and burned that thing,

1907
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:26,700
threw everything inside, bro, and burned everything.

1908
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:27,940
And we saw a lot of spiritual stuff.

1909
01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:29,300
And man, right after that, that's

1910
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:32,740
when it led her to seek God as well some more.

1911
01:02:32,740 --> 01:02:35,060
Like, she kind of was freaked out,

1912
01:02:35,060 --> 01:02:38,340
but then she had an experience, too, where these Incubus

1913
01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:40,340
and Succubus, these spirits came into her room

1914
01:02:40,340 --> 01:02:41,620
and tried to have sex with her.

1915
01:02:41,620 --> 01:02:43,620
And one of them shape shifted into the image of me.

1916
01:02:43,620 --> 01:02:45,420
This is when we were sleeping in separate rooms.

1917
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:46,900
And she screamed, and I ran to her room,

1918
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:49,140
and she just explained that.

1919
01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:50,900
That's what led her to open up the Bible.

1920
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,100
And she had a vision the Lord showed.

1921
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:56,780
The Holy Spirit showed her the Lord Jesus on the cross,

1922
01:02:56,780 --> 01:02:57,900
and it led her to Christ.

1923
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,500
And then we both went through a deliverance process.

1924
01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:03,020
We didn't get married, but we waited.

1925
01:03:03,020 --> 01:03:05,580
Finally, when we both went through our little processing,

1926
01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:09,300
and it was time, in faith, we got married in the courthouse

1927
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:11,300
alone, bro, on our lunch break, just

1928
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:13,340
to be abide by the governing laws of the land,

1929
01:03:13,340 --> 01:03:15,780
like make that covenant with the Lord.

1930
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:16,940
And we did it, man.

1931
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:19,540
At that time, my family didn't really like her at all,

1932
01:03:19,540 --> 01:03:21,180
because they knew about all the witchcraft.

1933
01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:22,580
Her family didn't really like me,

1934
01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:25,460
because they knew about the drug dealing and just who I was,

1935
01:03:25,460 --> 01:03:26,660
the womanizer.

1936
01:03:26,660 --> 01:03:27,740
That was bad.

1937
01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:30,860
And man, all we had was us two.

1938
01:03:30,860 --> 01:03:31,500
She gets saved.

1939
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:32,500
We get married.

1940
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:33,340
Our son comes.

1941
01:03:33,340 --> 01:03:36,100
He was actually born on leap day.

1942
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:37,060
Crazy, right?

1943
01:03:37,060 --> 01:03:39,180
February 29th, every four years, right?

1944
01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:40,180
Yeah.

1945
01:03:40,180 --> 01:03:42,460
The news came in to the hospital,

1946
01:03:42,460 --> 01:03:43,900
and everything to the whole video.

1947
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:47,060
But yeah, man, we were radical, lit up on fire, still are.

1948
01:03:47,060 --> 01:03:51,860
Man, we just love Jesus, bro, because we encountered

1949
01:03:51,860 --> 01:03:53,020
tangibly the Holy Spirit.

1950
01:03:53,020 --> 01:03:55,340
And every day we do and know he's real.

1951
01:03:55,340 --> 01:03:55,820
Yeah.

1952
01:03:55,820 --> 01:03:58,740
You were really hardcore into witchcraft,

1953
01:03:58,740 --> 01:04:01,460
and you were training to be a warlock.

1954
01:04:01,460 --> 01:04:04,780
I mean, you went through a discipleship process for that.

1955
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:08,780
Now, God has you 180 degrees different.

1956
01:04:08,780 --> 01:04:10,940
Now you're a pastor, and you are radically

1957
01:04:10,940 --> 01:04:14,660
discipling the church that God has you leading.

1958
01:04:14,660 --> 01:04:15,580
Yes, sir.

1959
01:04:15,580 --> 01:04:19,340
This discipleship process at your church is hardcore.

1960
01:04:19,340 --> 01:04:22,700
Tell me about this and how that has,

1961
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:25,220
how you've seen the changes in your life.

1962
01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:27,660
And how it's now manifested in other people's lives.

1963
01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:28,180
Amen.

1964
01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:31,460
So it has a lot to do with a few things,

1965
01:04:31,460 --> 01:04:33,660
like the discipline I learned through basketball,

1966
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:36,020
through military, and through the witchcraft, right?

1967
01:04:36,020 --> 01:04:38,540
All these things that I learned, I was like,

1968
01:04:38,540 --> 01:04:40,020
obviously I got filled with the Spirit,

1969
01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:41,140
got delivered and healed.

1970
01:04:41,140 --> 01:04:45,900
And then it's like these work ethics, these disciplines.

1971
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:48,060
We use it at the Rock, the Remnant Revival Outreach

1972
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:48,580
Center.

1973
01:04:48,580 --> 01:04:50,300
We believe in discipleship accountability.

1974
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:51,380
We're seeing the youth, man.

1975
01:04:51,380 --> 01:04:53,460
The youth, they don't want fake.

1976
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:54,940
Generation Z, the millennials, they

1977
01:04:54,940 --> 01:04:56,900
want that, let me just go to church on Sunday.

1978
01:04:56,900 --> 01:04:57,820
Nobody cares about me.

1979
01:04:57,820 --> 01:05:00,460
I know that for me, my beginning process in Christ,

1980
01:05:00,460 --> 01:05:04,540
like I wanted, I needed the accountability I had.

1981
01:05:04,540 --> 01:05:05,300
Yeah.

1982
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:07,740
Like the personal relationships with leaders.

1983
01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:09,980
And like the people that God put in my life that

1984
01:05:09,980 --> 01:05:11,620
are still in my life today, a lot of them,

1985
01:05:11,620 --> 01:05:14,420
like mentors that I have, man, I needed that at the time.

1986
01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:15,660
Because that's what helped me fast track.

1987
01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:18,100
Because when I had these questions about the Bible,

1988
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:20,580
and like I had access to somebody,

1989
01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:24,020
and I feel like that's what the church and the Western side

1990
01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:26,460
of the world and America, that's what a lot of churches

1991
01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:28,580
are lacking is true discipleship,

1992
01:05:28,580 --> 01:05:29,980
like true accountability.

1993
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:33,100
Because discipleship and accountability is different, man.

1994
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:35,620
That you could have a discipleship class every Saturday

1995
01:05:35,620 --> 01:05:36,860
or Sunday or whatever.

1996
01:05:36,860 --> 01:05:37,380
Sunday school.

1997
01:05:37,380 --> 01:05:39,260
But accountability is that person

1998
01:05:39,260 --> 01:05:42,180
who you can reach out to that will help you and pray for you.

1999
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:44,540
They regularly, like, you know, so we're

2000
01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:46,060
a very apostolic ministry, man.

2001
01:05:46,060 --> 01:05:48,060
We believe in building, man.

2002
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:50,220
We're seeing souls saved every service.

2003
01:05:50,220 --> 01:05:52,420
We have, we fill up the baptism tub every service.

2004
01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:54,460
And we're seeing every single service.

2005
01:05:54,460 --> 01:05:55,580
Someone's getting saved.

2006
01:05:55,580 --> 01:05:57,020
Someone's giving their life to Christ.

2007
01:05:57,020 --> 01:05:58,340
A lot of people are getting baptized.

2008
01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:01,300
We're seeing the Holy Spirit deliver and heal people

2009
01:06:01,300 --> 01:06:02,980
every service, miracles, man.

2010
01:06:02,980 --> 01:06:05,620
Like baptism of the Holy Spirit, you know,

2011
01:06:05,620 --> 01:06:08,460
people activating those gifts, man, speaking in tongues,

2012
01:06:08,460 --> 01:06:12,220
like going out there to be ready to go, like to win souls, man.

2013
01:06:12,220 --> 01:06:13,820
And that's what the church needs.

2014
01:06:13,820 --> 01:06:15,940
That's what this revival is about,

2015
01:06:15,940 --> 01:06:20,060
that we're on the brink, you know, in like, this time, man.

2016
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:23,780
Yeah, so everything that God has brought you through,

2017
01:06:23,780 --> 01:06:25,580
and I'm saying that God has been the one that

2018
01:06:25,580 --> 01:06:27,100
brought you through all of this.

2019
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:29,380
Praise the Lord for that.

2020
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:31,220
Has prepared you for what you're doing now.

2021
01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:31,740
Amen.

2022
01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:33,380
And on your YouTube channel, you're

2023
01:06:33,380 --> 01:06:37,860
going into places that a lot of people wouldn't even go.

2024
01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:41,860
And you are bringing the light of the gospel there.

2025
01:06:41,860 --> 01:06:46,180
And because you are able to see these witchcraft symbols

2026
01:06:46,180 --> 01:06:48,700
and what's really behind the curtain,

2027
01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:50,420
you're able to expose that.

2028
01:06:50,420 --> 01:06:52,740
What are some of the things that you're seeing in that

2029
01:06:52,740 --> 01:06:57,500
as people are coming to light as things are being revealed?

2030
01:06:57,500 --> 01:06:59,500
Like for the church or just for like the witchcraft?

2031
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:00,540
Just the witchcraft stuff.

2032
01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:03,140
Because, I mean, a lot of people are coming out of that.

2033
01:07:03,140 --> 01:07:06,540
Because there is an innate hunger and desire

2034
01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:07,860
for the things of the Spirit.

2035
01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:08,380
Yes.

2036
01:07:08,380 --> 01:07:10,940
I mean, I forget who said it, who coined it,

2037
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:13,860
but there's like a God-shaped hole in our heart.

2038
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:15,860
And only God can fill that.

2039
01:07:15,860 --> 01:07:18,660
But people try to fill that with everything

2040
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:19,300
that they can.

2041
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:21,860
And so spiritual, there is a hunger for the spiritual.

2042
01:07:21,860 --> 01:07:23,780
There's a hunger for the supernatural.

2043
01:07:23,780 --> 01:07:25,240
And so people are going after this.

2044
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,980
But you have kind of like an inside scoop of how

2045
01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:29,340
you can help people with this.

2046
01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:30,260
Yes, sir.

2047
01:07:30,260 --> 01:07:32,820
Man, that's why so many people, especially the youth,

2048
01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:35,300
they're so obsessed with the crystals and the evil eyes,

2049
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:36,300
the hamshas, the readings.

2050
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:38,220
It's because they're looking for something spiritual.

2051
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:40,060
They have a hunger and a desire, like you said,

2052
01:07:40,060 --> 01:07:41,900
a hole that only God can fill.

2053
01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:44,960
And because of my testimony and because of the deception

2054
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,820
I was in and getting pulled out of that pit by God,

2055
01:07:48,820 --> 01:07:49,860
I'm able to expose it.

2056
01:07:49,860 --> 01:07:53,220
So I have the confidence to go into a witchcraft store.

2057
01:07:53,220 --> 01:07:54,460
I used to be in them.

2058
01:07:54,460 --> 01:07:57,340
I have the confidence to go to a Casadega or wherever.

2059
01:07:57,340 --> 01:07:59,260
I'm going back to Haiti soon, too.

2060
01:07:59,260 --> 01:08:00,460
New Orleans, too.

2061
01:08:00,460 --> 01:08:03,460
I have the confidence to go there because I know,

2062
01:08:03,460 --> 01:08:06,540
number one, that Jesus is the highest power.

2063
01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:09,220
I've learned that very quick.

2064
01:08:09,220 --> 01:08:10,620
And I know it.

2065
01:08:10,620 --> 01:08:11,500
It's a knowing.

2066
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:12,540
It's deep in my heart.

2067
01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:14,000
It's undeniable.

2068
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,100
I know that God protects me.

2069
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:16,540
I know he's with me.

2070
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:19,500
And I know how deceptive and evil the enemy is

2071
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:22,300
and how he's mixing and intertwining Christianity

2072
01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:23,220
with spiritual stuff.

2073
01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:25,620
You know how many people I've met in the churches, man,

2074
01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:28,660
that after I give a sermon, they come up to me and say,

2075
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:29,660
well, I'm a Christian.

2076
01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:30,700
And I go to sidekicks.

2077
01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:31,500
And I think it's OK.

2078
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:32,940
But why are you saying it's not?

2079
01:08:32,940 --> 01:08:34,420
And I'm able to minister to them,

2080
01:08:34,420 --> 01:08:35,860
show them the word of God, and pray for them.

2081
01:08:35,860 --> 01:08:36,980
And they get deliverance.

2082
01:08:36,980 --> 01:08:39,580
Because, bro, these witches and warlocks, the New Age,

2083
01:08:39,580 --> 01:08:42,180
the occult, they're perverting the word of God

2084
01:08:42,180 --> 01:08:44,700
to cater to what they're trying to push.

2085
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:47,660
The devil uses the word of God.

2086
01:08:47,660 --> 01:08:50,660
But if you don't understand what the word is actually saying,

2087
01:08:50,660 --> 01:08:53,620
if you don't seek and freeze so you can find and study

2088
01:08:53,620 --> 01:08:55,460
so you can show yourself approved and all these things,

2089
01:08:55,460 --> 01:08:57,740
if you don't do that, in your mind,

2090
01:08:57,740 --> 01:09:00,060
you're going to believe that what they're saying is true.

2091
01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:02,140
Man, you know how many of these, almost all the witches

2092
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:04,740
and warlocks I went to, honestly, all of them,

2093
01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:08,260
they all said that Jesus, yeah, he's real.

2094
01:09:08,260 --> 01:09:12,460
Either he was a Christ conscious, a prophet, a regular guy.

2095
01:09:12,460 --> 01:09:15,220
And I've heard people say even, I've heard warlocks say,

2096
01:09:15,220 --> 01:09:16,060
he was a warlock.

2097
01:09:16,060 --> 01:09:17,980
He was a shaman.

2098
01:09:17,980 --> 01:09:20,060
And they say all these things because in the demonic,

2099
01:09:20,060 --> 01:09:21,140
there is healing powers.

2100
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:22,700
There is powers.

2101
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:24,620
But I mean, what the devil can do is he can heal you.

2102
01:09:24,620 --> 01:09:25,740
But then he's going to, on the back end,

2103
01:09:25,740 --> 01:09:27,940
you have to pay and he's going to kill everybody.

2104
01:09:27,940 --> 01:09:29,140
And it's going to get worse.

2105
01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:31,860
I've seen people go to shamans and witches and warlocks

2106
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:32,540
for healing.

2107
01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:34,100
They might get that temporary healing.

2108
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,620
But then later, it gets worse.

2109
01:09:35,620 --> 01:09:38,300
And then they die unexpectedly of something even worse

2110
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:38,940
than before.

2111
01:09:38,940 --> 01:09:41,300
But with God, there's no, he doesn't, it's grace.

2112
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:43,980
He doesn't expect anything back from you.

2113
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:45,740
You're healed by grace through faith.

2114
01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:47,460
You're delivered by grace through faith.

2115
01:09:47,460 --> 01:09:49,060
There's nothing you can do to earn it.

2116
01:09:49,060 --> 01:09:50,740
It's given to us as a free gift by God.

2117
01:09:50,740 --> 01:09:52,420
And a lot of people don't know that.

2118
01:09:52,420 --> 01:09:54,080
When I came to Christ, I thought that I

2119
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,500
had to do things for God to approve.

2120
01:09:56,500 --> 01:09:58,500
And then just the fact that by his grace,

2121
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:01,940
I'm able to receive my inheritance and know that,

2122
01:10:01,940 --> 01:10:03,300
I needed that discipleship.

2123
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:04,580
I needed those men of God in my life

2124
01:10:04,580 --> 01:10:06,820
to tell me those things, to break those strongholds,

2125
01:10:06,820 --> 01:10:08,500
to help me receive more healing and deliverance.

2126
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:11,660
Derek Prince, another mighty man of God that taught me a lot,

2127
01:10:11,660 --> 01:10:12,260
man.

2128
01:10:12,260 --> 01:10:13,260
Isaiah Salvador, right?

2129
01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:14,180
Early on.

2130
01:10:14,180 --> 01:10:17,180
I mean, when I started learning deliverance ministry,

2131
01:10:17,180 --> 01:10:19,660
I was on the internet just binge watching Derek Prince.

2132
01:10:19,660 --> 01:10:23,100
He was the first newer guy of our era that really was like,

2133
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:26,620
yo, I was like, bro, he understands, bro.

2134
01:10:26,620 --> 01:10:27,120
What?

2135
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,220
I actually messaged him.

2136
01:10:28,220 --> 01:10:30,060
And he didn't reply to that message

2137
01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:32,460
until two or three years later.

2138
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:33,900
And now we're good friends.

2139
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:35,460
And he's a mighty man of God, bro.

2140
01:10:35,460 --> 01:10:37,620
But I needed all that.

2141
01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:40,540
I needed all those things online, in person.

2142
01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:42,900
That's why we're so big on discipleship and accountability.

2143
01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:44,820
And the body of Christ needs to wake up, man.

2144
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:49,500
We can't be Christians, followers of Jesus Christ,

2145
01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:52,300
and still partake in the things of darkness, like evil,

2146
01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:53,460
and witchcraft.

2147
01:10:53,460 --> 01:10:54,620
It's not just witchcraft, bro.

2148
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:57,500
You got Christians that vape, Christians that smoke dope,

2149
01:10:57,500 --> 01:10:59,380
Christians that are still getting drunk,

2150
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,220
Christians fornicating all up in the church.

2151
01:11:01,220 --> 01:11:05,420
And that's why we're so, I would say, like, I guess, strict.

2152
01:11:05,420 --> 01:11:06,260
We actually care.

2153
01:11:06,260 --> 01:11:07,920
And we don't allow that in the church, man.

2154
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,940
It's a lot of youth that they're truly not in fornication.

2155
01:11:09,940 --> 01:11:10,980
They're not in watching point.

2156
01:11:10,980 --> 01:11:11,940
They've been delivered and healed.

2157
01:11:11,940 --> 01:11:13,660
They're walking this walk out.

2158
01:11:13,660 --> 01:11:15,380
And we could still do that.

2159
01:11:15,380 --> 01:11:17,180
I feel like a lot of pastors get scared.

2160
01:11:17,180 --> 01:11:18,780
They're like, I don't know how it's going to work.

2161
01:11:18,780 --> 01:11:20,020
I don't want to say anything.

2162
01:11:20,020 --> 01:11:20,540
I see it.

2163
01:11:20,540 --> 01:11:21,740
I'm just going to let you handle it, God.

2164
01:11:21,740 --> 01:11:23,020
And it's like, no, as a shepherd,

2165
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:25,060
we have to shepherd the flock from the legal right,

2166
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:26,980
the opening of the doors.

2167
01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:30,020
It doesn't matter if you're 14 or 54.

2168
01:11:30,020 --> 01:11:32,100
If you don't repent, like, you're opening a door,

2169
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:33,700
you're working iniquity, and you allow the enemy

2170
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:35,420
into your heart, into your soul.

2171
01:11:35,420 --> 01:11:36,820
And it will affect you.

2172
01:11:36,820 --> 01:11:40,140
That's why you got all these gay pastors in Atlanta saying,

2173
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:43,060
like, oh, yeah, we're an LGBTQ pastor.

2174
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:44,060
We can pastor a church.

2175
01:11:44,060 --> 01:11:46,300
And you can be a homosexual and a Christian.

2176
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:47,860
If you don't know the word of God,

2177
01:11:47,860 --> 01:11:50,220
that sounds very convincing, right?

2178
01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:52,660
It makes it seem like Christians are

2179
01:11:52,660 --> 01:11:54,900
judgmental for not accepting a homosexual pastor,

2180
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:57,620
because we've been desensitized.

2181
01:11:57,620 --> 01:11:59,780
We've been manipulated since birth,

2182
01:11:59,780 --> 01:12:03,100
especially in this era to think that homosexuality is OK.

2183
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:04,780
Like, you see what I'm saying?

2184
01:12:04,780 --> 01:12:07,860
And I want people to know that there's deliverance.

2185
01:12:07,860 --> 01:12:09,020
There's healing.

2186
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:09,900
There's root issues.

2187
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:11,820
It's not just repent of this, and that's it.

2188
01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:14,780
No, it's repent, and God can free you.

2189
01:12:14,780 --> 01:12:17,420
John 8.36, therefore, who the Son sets free is free indeed.

2190
01:12:17,420 --> 01:12:18,700
But the Son has to set you free.

2191
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:20,780
And the way he sets you free is you come to him

2192
01:12:20,780 --> 01:12:21,780
asking for it.

2193
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:22,500
Yeah.

2194
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:23,900
You know, Richard, there are people

2195
01:12:23,900 --> 01:12:25,940
that are watching this right now.

2196
01:12:25,940 --> 01:12:27,580
Wherever they might be around the world,

2197
01:12:27,580 --> 01:12:31,260
that's the beauty of this type of media.

2198
01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:33,260
They're listening to it as well.

2199
01:12:33,260 --> 01:12:36,460
But I want you to look into that camera

2200
01:12:36,460 --> 01:12:40,780
and speak to somebody that is maybe a,

2201
01:12:40,780 --> 01:12:44,540
keep in mind, like maybe a 15-year-old Richard Lorenzo.

2202
01:12:44,540 --> 01:12:47,740
Before all this craziness happened,

2203
01:12:47,740 --> 01:12:50,780
that they're about to make the biggest decision of their life,

2204
01:12:50,780 --> 01:12:53,740
would you tell them about Jesus?

2205
01:12:53,740 --> 01:12:57,260
And so that they would make the right decision.

2206
01:12:57,260 --> 01:13:01,220
And lead them to deliverance and forgiveness and salvation.

2207
01:13:01,220 --> 01:13:01,720
Amen.

2208
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,540
So I know some of you might be thinking right now, like, man,

2209
01:13:04,540 --> 01:13:05,700
how am I going to do it?

2210
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:07,260
It seems too hard.

2211
01:13:07,260 --> 01:13:08,140
It's not possible.

2212
01:13:08,140 --> 01:13:10,140
Look, it's a surrendered heart.

2213
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:11,820
You know, you surrender your heart to him.

2214
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:13,380
You really believe it in your heart.

2215
01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:15,020
And you ask him, right?

2216
01:13:15,020 --> 01:13:16,220
You ask him into your heart.

2217
01:13:16,220 --> 01:13:17,820
You believe he's your Lord and your Savior.

2218
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:19,380
The Holy Spirit will empower you.

2219
01:13:19,380 --> 01:13:22,700
I promise you, you'll receive a supernatural feeling

2220
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:24,380
of the highest power in you.

2221
01:13:24,380 --> 01:13:26,300
Holy Spirit is God, right?

2222
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:27,860
The third person of the Godhead.

2223
01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:28,860
And he wants to fill you.

2224
01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:30,460
He wants to deliver you and heal you.

2225
01:13:30,460 --> 01:13:32,700
I promise you, you will change.

2226
01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:34,340
I promise you, you will.

2227
01:13:34,340 --> 01:13:35,740
If you get filled with the Spirit,

2228
01:13:35,740 --> 01:13:38,180
God's going to sanctify you, transform you.

2229
01:13:38,180 --> 01:13:41,380
And it's all you have to do is have faith and walk this walk

2230
01:13:41,380 --> 01:13:42,020
out.

2231
01:13:42,020 --> 01:13:43,860
It's His grace and it's our faith.

2232
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:46,300
Partnering together, that allows transformation.

2233
01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:50,020
So even if you're 15, 13, 12, you're held accountable.

2234
01:13:50,020 --> 01:13:53,260
We're all held accountable once we know what sin is, man.

2235
01:13:53,260 --> 01:13:54,860
And God wants you.

2236
01:13:54,860 --> 01:13:56,420
He wants you to be saved.

2237
01:13:56,420 --> 01:13:57,900
We're in a time where He's coming back soon.

2238
01:13:57,900 --> 01:14:00,820
It doesn't matter how old you are, if you're 85 or if you're

2239
01:14:00,820 --> 01:14:01,940
15, it's time.

2240
01:14:01,940 --> 01:14:02,900
Now is the moment.

2241
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:04,860
You don't know if tomorrow is your last day.

2242
01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:07,020
You don't know if tomorrow is your last day,

2243
01:14:07,020 --> 01:14:09,300
and now is the time to give your life to Jesus.

2244
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:10,700
And it's not a religion.

2245
01:14:10,700 --> 01:14:12,860
It's not going to be boring.

2246
01:14:12,860 --> 01:14:14,700
It is the best thing I've ever done.

2247
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:15,940
It's the best job.

2248
01:14:15,940 --> 01:14:19,220
It's the best being a pastor and doing what I do, evangelism,

2249
01:14:19,220 --> 01:14:20,140
all that stuff.

2250
01:14:20,140 --> 01:14:21,060
It's the best thing I ever did.

2251
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:22,060
It's the most purposeful.

2252
01:14:22,060 --> 01:14:25,420
He wants you to have a relationship with Him right now.

2253
01:14:25,420 --> 01:14:27,900
And even though you're watching from behind that screen,

2254
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:30,620
on your phone, in your house, whatever, it doesn't matter.

2255
01:14:30,620 --> 01:14:31,540
He's omnipresent.

2256
01:14:31,540 --> 01:14:33,140
That means He's everywhere at once.

2257
01:14:33,140 --> 01:14:33,900
He's omnipotent.

2258
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:34,780
He's all powerful.

2259
01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:35,420
He's omniscient.

2260
01:14:35,420 --> 01:14:36,700
He's all knowing.

2261
01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:38,300
So right where you're at right now,

2262
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:40,540
you're probably feeling His presence come over your body

2263
01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:41,700
right now.

2264
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:44,100
You're literally feeling His presence come over your body.

2265
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:45,980
You might be watching this two years from when

2266
01:14:45,980 --> 01:14:47,180
the interview was made, a year.

2267
01:14:47,180 --> 01:14:48,180
It doesn't matter.

2268
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:49,600
That's the great thing about God.

2269
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,460
He operates outside of time and space.

2270
01:14:51,460 --> 01:14:53,220
So He's talking to you through me.

2271
01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:54,740
I'm just a vessel right now.

2272
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:56,300
He wants you to surrender.

2273
01:14:56,300 --> 01:14:58,380
So how you surrender is to submit to His Lordship,

2274
01:14:58,380 --> 01:15:00,820
believe in the gospel, which is that He did die

2275
01:15:00,820 --> 01:15:02,460
on that cross for your sins.

2276
01:15:02,460 --> 01:15:04,740
That blood that He shed wipes your sins away.

2277
01:15:04,740 --> 01:15:07,220
He was buried, and He rose from the dead on the third day.

2278
01:15:07,220 --> 01:15:10,420
If you repent and turn away from following sin,

2279
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:12,340
if you say, I'm done with it, I don't

2280
01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:14,060
want to practice sin anymore.

2281
01:15:14,060 --> 01:15:15,580
I want to be a follower of Christ.

2282
01:15:15,580 --> 01:15:17,780
And you believe this, what I just said, this gospel,

2283
01:15:17,780 --> 01:15:20,140
this good news, that you deserve to go to hell.

2284
01:15:20,140 --> 01:15:23,140
Because of one sin, one sin, look, man or woman of God,

2285
01:15:23,140 --> 01:15:26,060
one sin sends you to hell, one.

2286
01:15:26,060 --> 01:15:27,400
Imagine how many times we've sinned.

2287
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,300
It's too many.

2288
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:31,420
So you need something to atone or wipe out that sin,

2289
01:15:31,420 --> 01:15:32,820
that debt.

2290
01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:35,020
And the only way is through the blood of a sinless man,

2291
01:15:35,020 --> 01:15:36,100
and that's Jesus Christ.

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01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:38,180
That's why the Son of God came off the throne,

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lowered Himself, lower than the angels

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01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:42,460
He created His authority to enter a human vessel,

2295
01:15:42,460 --> 01:15:44,780
to live a life that we couldn't live and shed His blood,

2296
01:15:44,780 --> 01:15:47,900
so that we could be saved and in relationship with Him now.

2297
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:49,980
Not when you get to heaven right now.

2298
01:15:49,980 --> 01:15:51,580
So you can bring heaven to earth.

2299
01:15:51,580 --> 01:15:53,180
You're called to be an evangelist.

2300
01:15:53,180 --> 01:15:54,100
You're called to be a prophet.

2301
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:55,580
You're called to be a pastor, whatever it is.

2302
01:15:55,580 --> 01:15:56,940
You're called to go to the harvest field

2303
01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:59,220
and do exactly what you see me doing in the streets,

2304
01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:00,100
in the highways and byways.

2305
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:01,220
I'm not better than you.

2306
01:16:01,220 --> 01:16:02,260
You probably can do it.

2307
01:16:02,260 --> 01:16:04,220
You are called to do it better than me.

2308
01:16:04,220 --> 01:16:06,660
And God wants you now to surrender your life.

2309
01:16:06,660 --> 01:16:08,380
So I want you to just repeat after me.

2310
01:16:08,380 --> 01:16:09,700
It's very simple.

2311
01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:14,580
I want you to just say, Jesus, I believe you're my Lord.

2312
01:16:14,580 --> 01:16:18,740
Say, Jesus, I believe you died on the cross.

2313
01:16:18,740 --> 01:16:22,380
Say, Jesus, I believe you were buried

2314
01:16:22,380 --> 01:16:25,540
and you rose from the dead on the third day.

2315
01:16:25,540 --> 01:16:28,740
And just say, Jesus, I repent.

2316
01:16:28,740 --> 01:16:30,500
I'm not perfect.

2317
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:34,580
Say, I'm a sinner and I need your grace.

2318
01:16:34,580 --> 01:16:35,780
Now just close your eyes.

2319
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:37,060
I'm going to pray for you.

2320
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:38,940
And as I pray for you, the spirit of God

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01:16:38,940 --> 01:16:41,820
is going to begin to deliver you and heal you and baptize you.

2322
01:16:41,820 --> 01:16:43,380
And His power is fire right now.

2323
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:45,380
So close your eyes and just receive this prayer.

2324
01:16:45,380 --> 01:16:46,380
You don't have to repeat after me.

2325
01:16:46,380 --> 01:16:48,540
Just receive it in the name of Jesus.

2326
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:50,340
So Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you, Lord,

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01:16:50,340 --> 01:16:52,100
for everybody watching.

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01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:54,660
I pray, Holy Spirit, right now in the name of Jesus,

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01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:56,660
that you begin to deliver and heal your people

2330
01:16:56,660 --> 01:16:58,220
and fill them with your love.

2331
01:16:58,220 --> 01:16:59,740
Fill them with your power.

2332
01:16:59,740 --> 01:17:00,940
Fill them with your grace.

2333
01:17:00,940 --> 01:17:04,220
Right now in the name of Jesus, be filled with the Holy Spirit.

2334
01:17:04,220 --> 01:17:05,500
Be filled.

2335
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:05,940
Be filled.

2336
01:17:05,940 --> 01:17:06,420
Receive it.

2337
01:17:06,420 --> 01:17:07,500
Open up your heart.

2338
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,100
Receive it.

2339
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:11,460
Some of you are experiencing His tangible presence right now.

2340
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,740
You might be shaking, crying, throwing up, coughing up,

2341
01:17:14,740 --> 01:17:15,860
on the floor, whatever.

2342
01:17:15,860 --> 01:17:17,180
It doesn't matter.

2343
01:17:17,180 --> 01:17:19,380
He's right now filling you with His love.

2344
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:20,900
Receive it in the name of Jesus.

2345
01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:23,460
Thank you, Holy Spirit, that you're delivering your healing.

2346
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:25,100
And some of you have unforgiveness,

2347
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,300
and you need to forgive the people who hurt you right now.

2348
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:27,860
Let it go.

2349
01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:30,300
Just say, I forgive everyone who's hurt me.

2350
01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:31,500
Let it go.

2351
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:33,940
And Jesus, I pray that you fill every area of their heart

2352
01:17:33,940 --> 01:17:36,140
where there was bitterness or unforgiveness.

2353
01:17:36,140 --> 01:17:38,100
Fill them with your love and your power.

2354
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:39,900
Some of you might begin to speak in tongues.

2355
01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:42,100
Open up your mouth and just pray in the Holy Ghost.

2356
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:43,860
It's by grace through faith.

2357
01:17:43,860 --> 01:17:44,940
Just pray in the Spirit.

2358
01:17:44,940 --> 01:17:47,340
Open up your mouth and pray in the Spirit of God.

2359
01:17:47,340 --> 01:17:48,340
Pray in the Holy Ghost.

2360
01:17:48,340 --> 01:17:50,140
There you go.

2361
01:17:50,140 --> 01:17:53,300
In the name of Jesus, thank you, Father, for your grace,

2362
01:17:53,300 --> 01:17:55,460
for your love, your mercy, and your peace

2363
01:17:55,460 --> 01:17:58,260
that surpasses all understanding, your power,

2364
01:17:58,260 --> 01:17:59,340
in Jesus' name.

2365
01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:00,340
Amen.

2366
01:18:00,340 --> 01:18:01,340
Amen.

2367
01:18:01,340 --> 01:18:01,860
Amen.

2368
01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:04,060
And Pastor Richard, thank you so much for that.

2369
01:18:04,060 --> 01:18:06,660
And I just want to encourage everybody that's watching,

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01:18:06,660 --> 01:18:09,940
if you responded to that, let us know in the comments.

2371
01:18:09,940 --> 01:18:10,940
Reach out to us.

2372
01:18:10,940 --> 01:18:13,340
We want to be able to pray with you, pray for you,

2373
01:18:13,340 --> 01:18:15,140
and connect to you.

2374
01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:17,940
That is so important that you've taken this first step,

2375
01:18:17,940 --> 01:18:19,540
and we want you to continue to grow

2376
01:18:19,540 --> 01:18:20,940
in your relationship with the Lord,

2377
01:18:20,940 --> 01:18:23,140
just like Pastor Richard was talking about.

2378
01:18:23,140 --> 01:18:24,140
Take those next steps.

2379
01:18:24,140 --> 01:18:24,940
Grow.

2380
01:18:24,940 --> 01:18:28,940
Find a church that you can become accountable to,

2381
01:18:28,940 --> 01:18:31,140
and they will help you to grow.

2382
01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:32,940
Pastor Richard Lorenzo, thank you so much

2383
01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:34,740
for sharing part of your testament.

2384
01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:36,940
I know there's so much more that we can talk about,

2385
01:18:36,940 --> 01:18:39,340
but brother, it's an honor to be able to have you here.

2386
01:18:39,340 --> 01:18:40,340
Thank you as well, man.

2387
01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:41,940
It was an honor to be on here, and I just

2388
01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:45,140
thank you for your love, man.

2389
01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:47,540
It's just the love I felt coming to Charisma,

2390
01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:50,940
and just the honor, and just the culture you guys have here.

2391
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:52,540
It's all Holy Ghost.

2392
01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:53,340
Amen.

2393
01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:54,140
Amen.

2394
01:18:54,140 --> 01:18:54,740
Amen.

2395
01:18:54,740 --> 01:19:16,140
Amen.