1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 Society has been normalizing demonization. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,800 The devil is hidden in plain sight. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,240 If the devil's not ashamed, if he's unapologetic, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,780 we need to be unashamed. 5 00:00:10,780 --> 00:00:12,080 We need to be unapologetic. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,920 The devil's not gonna voluntarily give up his position. 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,360 We need to be the army that God has called us to be 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,400 and actually start doing deliverance ministry. 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,880 The finger of God is what delivers you. 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Don't you want God's fingerprint on your life? 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Isaiah Saldivar, it's great to have you here on Charisma 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,080 and this book, it's great to have you part 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,700 of the Charisma author family, How to Cast Out Demons. 14 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:35,920 And let's just, right on the front of this, 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,920 you say this is everything that you need to know 16 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,440 about deliverance. 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,600 That's a big claim, Isaiah. 18 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Let's talk about that. 19 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,600 This is everything you need to know. 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,320 How did you come to know everything 21 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,200 that people need to know? 22 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Yeah, so my journey with deliverance, 23 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,640 and it is a bold claim. 24 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,200 When I decided to come with that title, 25 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,640 they said, one of the people I won't say who at Charisma said, 26 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,160 you gotta make sure you add everything 27 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,680 if you're gonna put everything you need to know. 28 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,880 And I think when people get the book, 29 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,480 they'll realize every question they've had on deliverance, 30 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,080 we try to find an answer to. 31 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,600 But for me, it started with, 32 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,180 13 years ago, I was actually an atheist. 33 00:01:08,180 --> 00:01:09,160 I didn't believe in God. 34 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,680 I was raised in church, but just did not believe. 35 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Just got hard-hearted, bitter, angry, 36 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,840 everything you can think of. 37 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,200 And then my little sister begged me 38 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,920 for about six months to go to church. 39 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,160 I told my girlfriend at the time, 40 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,920 we're just gonna go one time, get her off our back. 41 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,840 I'll never go again. 42 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,900 And I had not been in three years up until this point. 43 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:26,460 So I'm about to turn 20 years old. 44 00:01:26,460 --> 00:01:28,000 I graduated high school at 16. 45 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,720 I graduated college at 19. 46 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,320 I was like the golden child doing everything right 47 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:33,880 in the world's eyes. 48 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Yet spiritually, I was completely dead. 49 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,360 And so I go to this church 50 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,440 and the pastor's preaching about world missions. 51 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,440 And I was just not moved at all. 52 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,560 And then during the altar, he's like, 53 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,780 if you wanna come forward and give your life to Christ. 54 00:01:44,780 --> 00:01:45,980 I wasn't planning to go forward, 55 00:01:45,980 --> 00:01:48,220 but I literally felt something pulling on my shirt. 56 00:01:48,220 --> 00:01:49,600 I ended up going to that altar. 57 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,000 And in so many words, I said, God, and I said a cuss word, 58 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,040 I don't believe in you, but if you're real. 59 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,880 And then I started saying, 60 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,720 I'll give you everything, 61 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,480 which I don't even know why I was saying this at the time, 62 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 but inwardly, I so badly wanted there to be a God. 63 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,600 I said, I'll move out of state. 64 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,600 I'll break up my girlfriend. 65 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,440 I'll leave my job 66 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,840 because I was getting hired as a deputy sheriff. 67 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,360 I'll leave my job in law enforcement. 68 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,300 I'll travel wherever you want me to go. 69 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:11,700 And I just started making all these bold claims 70 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:13,360 that if God was real, I'd do this. 71 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,760 In that very moment, I hear an audible voice. 72 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,200 I'm not full of the Holy Spirit at the time. 73 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,560 I was full of the devil. 74 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,800 And I heard an audible voice from above saying, 75 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,680 Isaiah, I don't want 99.9% of you. 76 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,040 I want everything. 77 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Give me your life. 78 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,560 And in that, I went into some type of out of body experience 79 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 where I was just seeing all these bright lights 80 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,720 and I was seeing myself preaching 81 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,920 before millions of people. 82 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:34,120 I was hearing the Lord talk to me 83 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,680 about what he wanted me to do. 84 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,960 I go from that to coming back to my body 85 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,080 and literal dirt was coming out of my eyes. 86 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,320 And at that time, I had not cried up until, 87 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,120 for 10 years up until that point. 88 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,400 I'm crying like a baby. 89 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,440 So that's shocking me because I haven't cried in 10 years. 90 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,760 I was just so hardhearted. 91 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,280 I'm speaking in this language 92 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,040 that I don't even know what I'm saying. 93 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,980 I didn't know about tongues 94 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:55,360 because the church I was raised in didn't talk about tongues. 95 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,080 The only time I ever heard tongues in my entire life 96 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,440 was at five years old. 97 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,480 I heard my parents praying in tongues one time. 98 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,320 So here I am now, I'm speaking this language. 99 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,280 I'm crying like a baby. 100 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,380 Dirt's coming out of my eyes, literal dirt. 101 00:03:06,380 --> 00:03:08,180 I'm having this crazy experience. 102 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:09,520 The pastor gets on stage. 103 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,160 There's 500 young people at the altar. 104 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,440 It's a big mega church. 105 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,040 And the pastor says, there's a young man in here right now 106 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,960 and the Lord's removing the dirty scales from your eyes. 107 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,700 And I'm just, made me cry even more. 108 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:22,200 And I have this crazy experience, 109 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,160 long story short, I don't sleep for three days. 110 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,640 I don't eat for two weeks. 111 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:28,520 I literally went from death to life. 112 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,220 I went from cussing every other word 113 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:32,320 to 13 years later, I haven't said a word. 114 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,520 I went from drinking every day 115 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,920 to 13 years later, I haven't drank. 116 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,000 I went from pornography every day, sleeping around, 117 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,160 everything you could think of, 118 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,680 to being living a clean life ever since that moment. 119 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,000 I put my faith in Jesus. 120 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,160 I realized my life, I was a sinner. 121 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,680 In that moment, I realized everything I was doing, 122 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,360 the parties, the drinking, the girls was wrong. 123 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,120 I felt filthy and I put my faith in the cross 124 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,040 and was born again that moment. 125 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,840 So that led into a revival broke out of my house. 126 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,120 And this will all go into deliverance here, 127 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,880 give me like one more Pentecostal minute. 128 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,640 A revival broke out of my house. 129 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,060 My family got saved, my friends got saved. 130 00:04:04,060 --> 00:04:05,760 Literally everyone in my family, 131 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,520 aunts, cousins, uncles came. 132 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,480 It felt like everybody I knew got saved in my living room. 133 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,800 We were having three to 400 people come every week 134 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,760 to my living room. 135 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,240 We were seeing people get out of wheelchairs. 136 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,160 I had an aunt that was born deaf get healed. 137 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,800 I had a cousin that was deaf get healed. 138 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 I saw people that never walked walk again. 139 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,400 And that led to a lot of my friends I was partying with 140 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,600 were coming to my living room for this revival meeting 141 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,080 and they were manifesting demons. 142 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,040 They would literally walk in my living room 143 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,320 and start growling, screaming, blaspheming God, 144 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,400 slithering on the ground. 145 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,600 And I was sitting there going, 146 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,640 I partied with that guy last week 147 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,000 and now he's on my floor slithering like a snake. 148 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,120 So I realized like, this is spiritual. 149 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,580 There's a spiritual realm. 150 00:04:44,580 --> 00:04:46,920 My uncle who's in ministry for 30 years 151 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,000 knew about all of this. 152 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,760 And I said, could we do this stuff? 153 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,480 Like the Bible shows deliverance. 154 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Jesus cast out demons everywhere. 155 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,440 And I didn't have this religious mindset at the time. 156 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,560 I just thought, hey, Jesus did it. 157 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,000 His disciples did it. 158 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,440 The book of Acts did it. 159 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,720 We're disciples. 160 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Could we do this? 161 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,280 And my uncle who had been in ministry for 30 years 162 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:07,760 says that he had in that moment had to decide, 163 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,800 am I gonna spiritually neuter them 164 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,480 and tell them this isn't for today? 165 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Or am I gonna tell them absolutely everything 166 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,560 in the Bible you can do? 167 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 And my uncle said, miho was what, you know, 168 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,720 we're Hispanic. 169 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,480 He said miho, everything in the Bible you can do. 170 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,560 You can cast out demons. 171 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,880 You can lay hands on the sick. 172 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,160 You can preach the gospel. 173 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,680 And that turned into us literally doing deliverance 174 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,440 almost every single day on one of our family, 175 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,480 one of our friends. 176 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,820 And that led me into deliverance. 177 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:31,600 And then now 13 years later, 178 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,800 finally have a lot of those early stories 179 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 and early things in a book form 180 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,040 when the Lord basically said it's time now 181 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,960 to create a manual, make it easy for people, 182 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,120 make it practical. 183 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,960 I made a joke and said, 184 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,800 if you're looking for a book where it's like, 185 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,340 Jezebel, Leviathan, all of that, that is not this book. 186 00:05:46,340 --> 00:05:48,280 This is a practical guide 187 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:49,880 where any person can pick it up 188 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,280 and understand how to cast out demons. 189 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:55,640 In the book, I talk about things like how people get demons, 190 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,720 all of the stories of Jesus casting out demons, 191 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,280 signs you have a demon, 192 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,840 items you might have in your home that open you to demons. 193 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,240 I give like a seven step method. 194 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,760 I talk about stubborn demons, how to keep the demons out. 195 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 So literally everything you need to know 196 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,720 is all there in the book, 197 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,040 but hopefully it could be a practical guide 198 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,680 for people that wanna get involved 199 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,560 in deliverance ministry. 200 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Cause I firmly believe scripture tells us 201 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,640 every person is called to drive out demons. 202 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,720 It's not just for the select few, John. 203 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,760 It's for every single disciple of Jesus Christ. 204 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,840 They shall cast out demons. 205 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,640 So I'm super convicted about that. 206 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,480 Yeah, I can tell you. 207 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,800 And you're passionate about this. 208 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880 And I love the fact that you have been going online 209 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,980 for several years now, 210 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:38,140 and you're seeing deliverance happening digitally. 211 00:06:38,140 --> 00:06:40,280 And I just gotta say, 212 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:42,240 society is talking about demons 213 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,760 more than the church, it seems. 214 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,400 I mean, just recently Tucker Carlson says 215 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,500 that he was physically attacked by a demon 216 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:50,320 and it left bloody claw marks on him, 217 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,240 which then led him to really reading the Bible 218 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,440 and searching and for like the last year and a half or so, 219 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,460 which hearing that testimony was wild. 220 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:02,480 And then there's celebrities that are openly claiming 221 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,780 that they are operating in the demonic, 222 00:07:04,780 --> 00:07:07,160 but the church just isn't even talking about it. 223 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,840 I mean, you do a lot of videos and reactions 224 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,800 to things that are happening in our culture and our world. 225 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Let's talk about the culture, 226 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,040 but also before we get into that, 227 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,040 why isn't the church talking about demonic deliverance? 228 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,820 So there's a saying that ignorance is bliss 229 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:26,300 is only said by the ignorant. 230 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:28,920 And I think when we say the word ignorant, it sounds mean. 231 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,760 You're like, why would you call the church ignorant? 232 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,400 The word ignorant is not a mean word. 233 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,120 It means you just don't know. 234 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,440 You just don't know something. 235 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,480 And for a while I was frustrated 236 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,240 at the state of the church and the pastors like, 237 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 why Lord, why don't they do this? 238 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Why aren't they talking about? 239 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,780 And the Lord's like, Isaiah, they're just ignorant. 240 00:07:43,780 --> 00:07:44,660 They just don't know. 241 00:07:44,660 --> 00:07:46,040 They've never learned about it. 242 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,960 They don't believe it. 243 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,520 And so I think that's where the church is at 244 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,600 because we haven't seen it. 245 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,040 We haven't been taught about it. 246 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,120 We're ignorant to it. 247 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,580 But the problem is you can't read the gospels 248 00:07:54,580 --> 00:07:56,400 and say that this isn't happening 249 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,280 because it happened all throughout scripture. 250 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,440 And what the Lord's been showing me even this week was, 251 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Isaiah, you're not pointing people to something new. 252 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,840 There's nothing new. 253 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,960 There's nothing we're pointing to. 254 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,740 There's no new doctrine in the book. 255 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:08,800 You're not gonna find like a new revelation. 256 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,360 You're actually pointing people back. 257 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,240 The Lord's been showing me to ancient paths, 258 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,600 to what the Lord did. 259 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,220 But this is not a new teaching. 260 00:08:15,220 --> 00:08:17,900 This is an ancient teaching that's been forgotten about, 261 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:20,620 that's been lied about, that's been rejected, 262 00:08:20,620 --> 00:08:21,880 that's been put in the corner somewhere 263 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,740 that people are afraid of. 264 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:25,560 But the bottom line is now we're at a place 265 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,800 where the devil is hidden in plain sight. 266 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,960 And that means he's out in the open now. 267 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,860 He's trying to hide, but he's in plain view 268 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:36,560 where like every Grammy show, every celebrity event, 269 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:38,760 every, we already know, if there's a Grammys, 270 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,240 there's gonna be a bunch of demonic stuff happening 271 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,080 on stage. 272 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,880 We already know if it's a Super Bowl halftime show, 273 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,120 a bunch of demonic stuff on stage. 274 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,440 Any big platform the world has, it's always demonic. 275 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,800 It's always dark now. 276 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,680 And that wasn't the case 50 years ago. 277 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,040 So I feel like the devil's really taking the gloves off. 278 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 He's not ashamed anymore. 279 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,560 So my thing is if the devil's not ashamed, 280 00:08:57,560 --> 00:09:00,760 if he's unapologetic, we need to be unashamed. 281 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,400 We need to be unapologetic. 282 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 He's not apologizing for demonizing our kids. 283 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,080 So we shouldn't apologize for delivering our kids. 284 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,560 He's not apologizing for wrecking our families 285 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,800 with pornography and divorce and anger and the new age. 286 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,320 We shouldn't apologize for setting the captives free, 287 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 for seeing deliverance, for seeing miracles. 288 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,120 So yeah, we're at a time where the world is actually open 289 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,800 to talking about these things 290 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,720 and there's a biblical way to do it. 291 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,240 It's all through the scripture. 292 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,080 We look at like Mark 1.39, 293 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Jesus went from synagogue to synagogue casting out demons. 294 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,920 We look at Matthew chapter 10, 295 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,280 he told the 12 disciples, go cast out demons. 296 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,280 He didn't ask them, John. 297 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,640 He didn't say, if you feel like it, if you want to, 298 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,760 that was the commission. 299 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Then in Luke 10, he tells the 72, go cast out demons. 300 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,600 And then in Acts chapter eight, 301 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 we see Philip, the only named evangelist in scripture. 302 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 What is he doing at his first crusade? 303 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,440 He's casting out demons and healing the sick. 304 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,040 So this is inevitable through scripture. 305 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,360 You can't avoid this. 306 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,560 As his disciples, I wanna make it very basic. 307 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,160 If I'm his disciple, I'm his representative. 308 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,320 2 Corinthians 5 says, we are Christ's ambassadors. 309 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,640 So I look at Jesus and I go, okay, very simply, 310 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,640 what did he do? 311 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,560 He healed the sick, he cast out demons 312 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:07,600 and he preached the gospel. 313 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Those are the three things he did. 314 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Like this is objective. 315 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,840 Those are the three things he did. 316 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,680 So as his ambassador, as his follower, 317 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:17,120 as his disciple, John 14, 12, he says, 318 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,600 you're gonna do the same works I've done and even greater 319 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,200 because now I'm going to the father. 320 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Wouldn't it make sense, John, that we as his disciples 321 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,320 are called to do the same works, not only that Jesus did, 322 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,280 but the disciples did, the early church did. 323 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,920 And that includes casting out demons. 324 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,520 That includes healing the sick. 325 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,320 That includes preaching the gospel. 326 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,400 Every single person watching this right now 327 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,320 has a friend or family and this is no debate to this. 328 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,880 You have a friend or family that needs deliverance. 329 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,920 And you can't just say, I'm gonna bring them to Isaiah, 330 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,120 sell them our deliverance of it. 331 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,360 I'm gonna bring them to my pastor. 332 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,720 No, you're called to set the cap this free. 333 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,560 Mark 16, the first sign of being a believer 334 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,200 is these signs will follow. 335 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,160 In my name, they'll drive out demons. 336 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,800 Like imagine, John, that's the first telltale sign. 337 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,160 You meet somebody on the street, you're like, 338 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,240 oh, you're a believer? 339 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,320 Yeah, oh, me too. 340 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Oh, so you cast out demons? 341 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Like that would be crazy. 342 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,520 People would look at you like you're nuts. 343 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Yet in the Bible, in the book of Mark, 344 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:12,080 it says that'll be the first sign of a believer 345 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,480 is they will cast out demons. 346 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,200 But I think it's essential that we do that. 347 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,480 The world deserves it. 348 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,320 The world needs it. 349 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,140 The church needs it. 350 00:11:18,140 --> 00:11:19,720 Our friends and family need it. 351 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,880 We really need compassion. 352 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,720 We need to be heartbroken over the state of society. 353 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 I refuse to believe that we are the most depressed 354 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,440 generation in existence. 355 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,000 I refuse to stand around 356 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,240 while we're the most suicidal generation ever. 357 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,800 The devil is pouring out a spirit. 358 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,880 That's true. 359 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Just turn on the news, turn on the television. 360 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,000 But the Lord is also pouring out his spirit, 361 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,600 which is greater, which is more powerful, 362 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,080 which has more authority. 363 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,080 And as his believers, we have the same spirit 364 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,480 that raised Christ living in us 365 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,720 and we're called to do this work. 366 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,540 So I believe it's needed now. 367 00:11:50,540 --> 00:11:52,560 I think this whole book coming out is timely. 368 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,880 We're in this era, this generation that's hungry 369 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,920 for the spiritual realm. 370 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 And we're really giving them what they want. 371 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,240 And that is, tell me what Jesus did. 372 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Tell me about Jesus. 373 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,840 And this is something Jesus did everywhere. 374 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,640 You know, I'm really loving the fact that, you know, 375 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Charisma, we've published a number of people's, you know, 376 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,480 part of the Demon Slayers group, you know, 377 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,920 with you and Alexander Pagani and Mike Signorelli 378 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,360 and Vlad Savchuk and, you know, depending on, you know, 379 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,780 who else might be part of that group. 380 00:12:21,780 --> 00:12:22,840 But you guys are all friends. 381 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,300 You're all in ministry together in some way, shape or form. 382 00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:27,380 Greg Locke. 383 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:31,480 And we love just seeing what the Holy Spirit is doing 384 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,320 at this time in history. 385 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,680 There is a renewed focus on deliverance, 386 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:38,760 but that still brings me back to this question 387 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 of why has the church not paid attention to this? 388 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Why has the church kind of let this go to the side? 389 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,000 And it's almost like, those are the strange people 390 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,280 that do deliverance over there. 391 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Like, those are the weirdos. 392 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,120 You know, let's take this out of the main service 393 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,360 into that back room there 394 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,660 and get those people help that way. 395 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:59,880 Why is this, like, let's talk about this a little bit 396 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,840 because we are missing something 397 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,760 that God tells us that we're supposed to do. 398 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,300 Yeah, it's the pastor's job. 399 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:06,320 That's a straight up truth. 400 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,640 The pastor leads the church. 401 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,600 The pastor's the one, whatever his vision is, 402 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,840 that's the direction of the church. 403 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,800 If we look at the modern church and say, 404 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,000 why is deliverance not happening? 405 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,680 We have to point it to the leaders. 406 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:17,260 The leader, we have to point to the leaders. 407 00:13:17,260 --> 00:13:19,320 Like, if there's a bad policy in the country, 408 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,720 we don't blame the citizens 409 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,840 because we have no power over that. 410 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,840 We blame the leaders that the citizens elected 411 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,920 and go, why are the leaders not doing their job? 412 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,080 So I look at the pastors and say, it's really their job. 413 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,560 I've told pastors before, 414 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:33,160 how do you preach 52 weeks out of the year 415 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,840 and you never once talk about something Jesus did everywhere? 416 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,840 I mean, think about that. 417 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,800 You gave 52 sermons and you somehow skipped over 418 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,260 what Jesus did in every single city he went to 419 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:43,640 and what the disciples did. 420 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,660 And so it's necessary as leaders, 421 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:47,640 we're trained and equipped to cast out demons. 422 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,160 It starts with the leadership and then leads into people. 423 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Okay, so now we're in a place where, 424 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,920 you just said it, John, 425 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,840 we're in a deliverance revival right now. 426 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,240 And this is because for the first time in history, 427 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,080 social media is a thing, right? 428 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,560 Like 10 years ago, there was no short form content. 429 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,920 10 years ago, going viral didn't really exist. 430 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Well, here now you have a church over here that rejects it, 431 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,520 refused to talk about it. 432 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,920 Then you have the Lord raising up all of these voices online. 433 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,220 They're not waiting for permission from a local church, 434 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:16,280 which I love the local church. 435 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,260 I pastored for a decade. 436 00:14:17,260 --> 00:14:18,400 I'm a part of a local church. 437 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Mike, Vlad and Pagani are all senior pastors 438 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,240 of local churches. 439 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,500 So I love the local church. 440 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:23,760 But here's what you have now, 441 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,920 online taking off, going viral. 442 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,240 And now pastors, they no longer can control the narrative. 443 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,280 They can no longer keep this ministry out of the church. 444 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,720 So because our videos are getting 445 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:34,760 millions and millions of views, 446 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,320 the first deliverance video I ever posted on TikTok 447 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,480 got 15 million views. 448 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,120 So you can't now avoid the deliverance now. 449 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,060 Cause like everybody at my church is asking 450 00:14:44,060 --> 00:14:45,000 why we don't do it. 451 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Everybody at my church is asking, 452 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,640 why is it happening online? 453 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,480 They're giving verses. 454 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,320 It's in the Bible. 455 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,560 It's theologically sound. 456 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,340 The pastors have no choice now, but to embrace it. 457 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:57,080 Just three weeks ago, we were in the Now Arena in Chicago. 458 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,760 10,000 people gathered. 459 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,040 And at the very end of the day, 460 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,720 we had mass deliverance with 10,000 people, 461 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,800 packed out arena. 462 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,340 So it's like, you can't ignore anymore 463 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:05,560 what the Lord is doing. 464 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,740 And it all points back to the cross. 465 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:09,640 It all points back to Jesus. 466 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Isaiah has no power. 467 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Mike has no power. 468 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,980 Vlad, Pagani, none of us have power or authority. 469 00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:16,920 All we're doing is pointing people back to Jesus 470 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,960 and saying it's in his name that we cast our demons. 471 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,080 It's in his name that there's power and authority. 472 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 And so now I could tell you pastors 473 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,520 that would never invite me, never do deliverance, 474 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,280 never want anything to do with it, 475 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,000 are now starting to do deliverance, 476 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,360 are now starting to get deliverance. 477 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,000 I just talked to a guy today who said, 478 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,020 my pastors of a large known mega church, 479 00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:39,640 he literally just told me today, I won't say who, 480 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,640 my pastors just went through deliverance. 481 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,980 So now it's like, even these big, big, big churches, 482 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:45,600 our pastors are going through deliverance. 483 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,520 They're starting to teach it. 484 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,760 They're bringing people in. 485 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,040 I've been in some large churches that five years ago, 486 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,200 I would have laughed if you said, 487 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,580 they're gonna bring you in to teach on deliverance. 488 00:15:53,580 --> 00:15:55,160 I would have been like, they would never invite me. 489 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,120 And now they're inviting me 490 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,240 because they're seeing not only is it working, 491 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,000 the world needs it and the church is hungry for it. 492 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,560 But now I think we're seeing that ignorance break. 493 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,280 And of course, the books, the videos online, 494 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,060 I have 2,200 videos on my channel. 495 00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:09,880 So like we're teaching people, we're training people, 496 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,160 we're going through the Bible 497 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,640 and it's waking people up to this truth of what Jesus did. 498 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Yeah, and thank you for your YouTube channel. 499 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,000 I love seeing all the stuff that you're doing. 500 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,100 I mean, you're teaching about deliverance. 501 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:24,320 You're teaching about other things beyond that as well, 502 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,960 but you're commenting about what is happening 503 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,880 in our culture in so many of the viral videos. 504 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,560 One of the things I wanna talk to you about 505 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,440 is just this whole concept of the legal deliver, 506 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,880 or the legal possession, I guess. 507 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Because if somebody is going to be demonically possessed 508 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:49,220 or oppressed, they normally had some sort of a, 509 00:16:49,220 --> 00:16:52,600 they did something that legally gave the devil permission 510 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,840 to do what he's doing, right? 511 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Yeah. 512 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,320 And so in society though, 513 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,440 we're seeing this manifest in the public. 514 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,580 So what have we done as a society 515 00:17:04,580 --> 00:17:07,080 or what are we allowing as a society 516 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,120 that keeps allowing these Super Bowl halftime shows 517 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:13,080 or the Grammys or all of these things 518 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,800 that are openly demonic expressions, 519 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,280 what are we doing or not doing that is actually giving 520 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,440 the devil legal right to do these things? 521 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,360 Yeah, so all of these things are to desensitize us, right? 522 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:28,840 Are to make the demonic innocent, no big deal. 523 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,580 So like, just for an example, 524 00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:33,740 the biggest artist right now in the world is Taylor Swift. 525 00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:34,920 And all of these young people love her, 526 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,000 all of these people, she's like had a billion dollar tour. 527 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,320 She's now like the highest grossing. 528 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,360 So she's broken every record for an artist. 529 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,440 She goes on Twitter and says, 530 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,300 I'm the witchest witch there is. 531 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:44,920 I'm the witchiest of witches. 532 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,760 So she's openly now saying she's involved 533 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,800 in doing new age witchcraft. 534 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880 Of course, she calls herself a Christian, which is bizarre, 535 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,200 but all of her songs talk about karma 536 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200 and these new age Hindu practices and witchcraft and magic. 537 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,880 She's weaving them in to make it normal. 538 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Make it normal now that witchcraft 539 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,820 is no longer abomination the way the Bible teaches. 540 00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:02,760 It's no longer wrong. 541 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,360 So society has been normalizing demonization, 542 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,800 making all of these things no big deal. 543 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 It's no big deal to go get your palms read. 544 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,120 McDonald's hands out horoscopes now, right? 545 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:13,960 They had like this little thing 546 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,920 where they were handing out horoscopes with their food. 547 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,800 They're making all of these demonic satanic things normal, 548 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,840 desensitizing the masses 549 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,200 so that it's no big deal to worship the devil. 550 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,860 It's no big deal to plead your allegiance to him. 551 00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:29,920 And as believers, as Christians, we have to push back. 552 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,720 We have to call these things out. 553 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,760 Jesus said this, they're gonna hate you, 554 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,060 but know that they hated me first. 555 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:39,360 So then we ask ourselves, why did they hate Jesus? 556 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:41,640 And he tells us, he said, they hated me 557 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560 because I testified that their works were evil. 558 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,260 Jesus was speaking out against the demonic culture, 559 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,160 the darkness happening in society. 560 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,680 And they're not just talking about it, 561 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,800 but what goes down to what the book's all about is 562 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,840 he was actually doing something about it. 563 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,920 So he wasn't just meeting saying, the devil's bad, 564 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,640 the culture's bad, everyone's demonic. 565 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,620 He was like, yeah, we're gonna call it out, 566 00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:02,820 but we're also gonna drive out demons. 567 00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:05,120 So we have to definitely speak out against these things 568 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,280 and reject these demonic things happening in society. 569 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,260 But we also have to do something about it. 570 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:13,280 And that doing something about it is driving out demons 571 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,960 from our friends and family and the people around us 572 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,800 that need help. 573 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,620 So it's not enough just for us to be vocal and make noise. 574 00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:22,040 We need to be the army that God has called us to be 575 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,160 and actually start doing deliverance ministry. 576 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,840 And people watching this are saying, well, how do I do it? 577 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,460 Exactly why we're putting out these books, 578 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:31,480 exactly why we're giving you training manuals. 579 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,540 In the book, I have a seven step simple method. 580 00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:36,680 We've made it as simple as possible, theologically sound, 581 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,380 to get people to actually do the work 582 00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,380 we're telling them about. 583 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:40,400 Because there's nothing more annoying 584 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,560 than somebody saying, do something, 585 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,160 but never telling you how to do it. 586 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Or somebody saying, fix this, 587 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,080 but never telling you how to fix it. 588 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720 And that's a frustrating place the church is in 589 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,400 because we preach about the darkness, 590 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,760 we talk about the darkness. 591 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,380 Every Sunday we're like, they're doing this, 592 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,360 they're doing that. 593 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,120 But we're very few places are actually teaching people 594 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,420 how to do something about it. 595 00:19:59,420 --> 00:20:01,240 Deliverance is a direct confrontation 596 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,320 with the enemy's kingdom. 597 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,720 It's a power encounter. 598 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,080 It's an authority encounter. 599 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,940 Jesus said, if I cast the demons by the Spirit of God, 600 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:10,520 the finger of God, then you know the kingdom has come. 601 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,920 So the arrival of God's kingdom is deliverance. 602 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,400 And deliverance is the arrival of God's kingdom. 603 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,420 Some people get freaked out and I tell people, 604 00:20:17,420 --> 00:20:18,960 the finger of God is what delivers you. 605 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,380 Don't you want God's fingerprint on your life? 606 00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:23,240 Don't you want the finger of God in your life? 607 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,560 It's nothing to be afraid of. 608 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,560 It's beautiful. 609 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,400 It's freedom. 610 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,460 It's the Lord bringing you out of the cage 611 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:31,000 that you're in in bondage and setting you free. 612 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,720 And so we desperately need it. 613 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,200 We have to be vocal about it. 614 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,440 And we have to stop tolerating 615 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,920 and allowing these things in our life. 616 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,080 I'll say this and then turn it back over to you. 617 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,240 The number one open door to the devil in this generation, 618 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,440 the number one thing that opens people up to demons 619 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,360 that every person has right now. 620 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:50,840 Every person that's watching has a new device 621 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200 that I believe is the greatest open door 622 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,240 to the devil in existence. 623 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,000 And it's right here sitting on my desk. 624 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,960 It's a cell phone. 625 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240 This right here is an open door. 626 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,040 You know this, I know this. 627 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,800 The every type of dark thing online. 628 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,240 It's so accessible. 629 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,520 It's so easy. 630 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480 50 years ago, if guys wanted to get involved 631 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,920 in sexual sin, they had to go to a store. 632 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,800 They had to be secretive. 633 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,640 They have to hide. 634 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,040 They have to get a magazine, hide it. 635 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,100 No more. 636 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,760 Now we have people, young people coming to our meetings 637 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,200 that are seven, eight years old saying, 638 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240 I'm watching internet pornography on my iPad. 639 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,080 I'm addicted. 640 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,360 I had a seven year old. 641 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,680 Parents came to me and said, 642 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,760 our son's addicted to pornography. 643 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,600 And we started praying for him. 644 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,160 He told me, I wake up every morning 645 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,360 before my family goes to work and I get on the iPad 646 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,000 and I watch hours of pornography every morning. 647 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,480 This kid's like seven years old. 648 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,000 And that is the access. 649 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,760 These young kids have to darkness, 650 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,280 to demonic stuff, to opening themselves up to demons. 651 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 And it's no wonder why we are considered 652 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,860 the highest depression rate, the highest suicide rate, 653 00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:49,680 the highest rate of perversion, 654 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320 the highest rate of pornography. 655 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,200 It's because the access is so easy. 656 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,740 And for the first time in history, 657 00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:57,480 you can access all types of demonic things from your phone, 658 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,180 which again, 20 years ago, 659 00:21:59,180 --> 00:22:00,720 we didn't even have smartphones like this 660 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,900 where everybody had one, we were accessible. 661 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:06,880 So now that the devil's made himself extremely accessible, 662 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,300 watch this, we have now made ourselves 663 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:10,800 as the kingdom accessible. 664 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,100 Now we're online. 665 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:14,560 Tomorrow night, this is gonna shock some people. 666 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,300 Tomorrow night, I will be live on Zoom, 667 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:19,740 casting demons out of people. 668 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:22,040 I'm not just gonna let the devil use the technology. 669 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 We're gonna use the technology God has given us. 670 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,840 If I could pray for somebody on the phone, 671 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,080 I can pray for them over Zoom. 672 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 And we're gonna see people get demons cast out of them 673 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,520 on a Zoom call. 674 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840 So we're gonna use every tool we have, 675 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,640 these tools are not just for the enemy. 676 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720 We're gonna use them for the kingdom of God. 677 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,100 Whatever the devil's using these vehicles, 678 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,840 God's also using to set people free. 679 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,440 And so it's a beautiful time 680 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,380 because it's a time of revivals, time of deliverance. 681 00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:46,160 I know it might sound like, oh, this is all bad and dark. 682 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,920 No, it's a great time to be alive. 683 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,440 The Lord is pouring out of spirit 684 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,260 and we can utilize all these vehicles 685 00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:53,040 to see the captive set free. 686 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 I love that you're so joyful about this 687 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,360 because these are dark times, 688 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,120 but we are bringing the light of Christ. 689 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,400 We're called to be salt and light. 690 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,640 And I love that you are bringing joy to this. 691 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,760 I mean, there's a passion and then there's a joy. 692 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,460 Earlier you said that we need to cast out 693 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:15,680 and bring deliverance to our friends and family. 694 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480 My question for you about this is, 695 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,920 okay, so how do we recognize 696 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600 that this is actually a demonic thing in them? 697 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280 And then how do you get them to actually accept 698 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,320 that they need to be delivered? 699 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,000 Because do you just go around 700 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480 and sneak attack deliverance people? 701 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240 How do you do that? 702 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Yeah, so if you're having friends and family 703 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,440 that are dealing with something, 704 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,880 there's a very loving way to say, 705 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880 hey, there's a spiritual realm. 706 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,720 It's super simple. 707 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,720 There's a spiritual realm. 708 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,000 And the Bible talks about 709 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,720 how these are persons without bodies. 710 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,040 These spirits are personalities that live inside of us. 711 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,600 Matthew 12, Jesus said, demons, all us their home. 712 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,320 And you just tell your friend or family, 713 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,920 say they're dealing with suicidal thoughts. 714 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Like, hey, that's not normal. 715 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,680 God doesn't want that for you. 716 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,480 That's something in you telling you to do something 717 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,320 that you don't wanna do. 718 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,800 And they know they don't wanna do it. 719 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Many people tell you, I don't wanna take my life. 720 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,320 I don't wanna cut my arm, 721 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360 but there's an overwhelming desire for me to do it. 722 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,480 And you let them know and God will fill your mouth 723 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,520 and give you the words. 724 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Like, I can pray for you and God can set you free. 725 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,360 And this is very important. 726 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,200 Inviting them over to your house, right? 727 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,520 Making them feel comfortable 728 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,920 and just starting to pray for them. 729 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,920 You don't have to say, 730 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,200 oh, we're gonna do an exorcism. 731 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,240 We're gonna get oil. 732 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320 We're gonna turn all the lights off and light candles. 733 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,280 You don't have to do all that. 734 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,240 You invite them over, get them in a safe place 735 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,680 and say, I just wanna pray for you. 736 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,440 And then when you pray for them, 737 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,880 and we talk about this in the book, 738 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,280 you don't just go, Lord, thank you for them. 739 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Help them Lord, amen. 740 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,760 That's how a lot of people pray 741 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,600 and that's great for a certain place, 742 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,120 but that's not great if somebody has a demon 743 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:43,400 and you're trying to get the demon out. 744 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640 It's very important that you confront the demon. 745 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,920 And this is something most people have never done. 746 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,680 When we do deliverance on people, John, 747 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,240 they always say, how did I have this my entire life? 748 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,920 And when they say this, they mean the demon. 749 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,680 And I didn't even know. 750 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,520 I never knew I had a demon until now. 751 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,200 And I always ask them the same question, John, I say, 752 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,040 have you ever had anybody pray for you 753 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,480 and confront the demon? 754 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720 And every single time they say, no, 755 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680 I've been in church for 30 years, John. 756 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200 I've never had anybody confront a demon in me. 757 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 I've never had anybody pray deliverance over me. 758 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,640 So the devil's not gonna voluntarily give up his position. 759 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,920 He's not gonna voluntarily say, here I am, kick me out. 760 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,000 He's very crafty. 761 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,360 He hides using camouflage. 762 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,600 I talk about that as well in the book. 763 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,440 That's his favorite tool is camouflage. 764 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,880 He hides in the environment. 765 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,480 So as believers, we have to confront the demon. 766 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,120 So for example, let's just be super practical, John. 767 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,640 I have a family member saying, 768 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,080 I'm dealing with these suicidal thoughts. 769 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,040 Will you pray for me? 770 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Absolutely. 771 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,560 Thursday night, come over the house. 772 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,520 I wanna pray with you. 773 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,120 They come over the house Thursday night. 774 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,920 Me and my wife get together with, let's say, my cousin, 775 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080 and she comes over, put on some worship music. 776 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,120 Hey, we're gonna talk with you. 777 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:48,940 We love you. 778 00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:49,780 We appreciate you. 779 00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:51,080 Show them a few scriptures. 780 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Hey, this is what the Bible teaches. 781 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,880 We know God can set you free. 782 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,000 We don't want you to deal with this. 783 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,560 We know God doesn't want you to deal with this. 784 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,680 We're gonna pray for you. 785 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,840 And then we're gonna talk to her 786 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,280 about these simple steps we give, 787 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,120 like renouncing things and unforgiveness. 788 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,120 Hey, is there any unforgiveness in your life? 789 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,120 Let's deal with these things. 790 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:04,960 Let us pray. 791 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,120 And then we're gonna start praying. 792 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,160 And I'm gonna say, literally, I'm gonna say, 793 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720 I command any spirit of suicide. 794 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,660 I call you out now. 795 00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,720 You must leave now in Jesus' name. 796 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,760 You have no power. 797 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,040 I'm gonna actually start going to war 798 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,480 on behalf of my family. 799 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,600 And I'm gonna start calling that thing out of her. 800 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,520 And likely, she's gonna start feeling that thing 801 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,520 wanting to come up. 802 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,680 She's gonna start maybe growling or coughing 803 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,520 or feeling anger. 804 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,940 Her heart will start racing. 805 00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:30,500 That demon will start coming up to the surface 806 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,240 because with the authority Jesus has given me, 807 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,900 I'm evicting it from its home. 808 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,340 Again, Matthew 12 says, demons call us their home. 809 00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:38,960 Very easy, very practical. 810 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,600 I'm commanding that thing to leave her. 811 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,640 And I'm not doing it like one time for one minute. 812 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000 I'm gonna keep confronting and keep calling that thing out 813 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800 until that thing comes out of her. 814 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,460 And that is where we've missed it. 815 00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:50,300 We don't go into that. 816 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,320 We just, Lord, have your way. 817 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200 We pray at a distance, but Jesus actually called 818 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,320 the disciples to go cast out demons. 819 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800 And then they came back and Luke 10 and said, 820 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,720 even the demons obey us in your name. 821 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Like they were shocked. 822 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,440 They were like, this stuff works. 823 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,840 And I'm telling you guys, if you start doing this 824 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,160 and praying for friends and family 825 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,920 like the way we show in the book, it actually works. 826 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,400 When you start confronting the demon in the name of Jesus, 827 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,760 it's not fancy, it's not complicated. 828 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840 You'll start seeing the demons will respond 829 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,220 and you, the listeners right now, 830 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:23,200 will be like those disciples in Luke 10. 831 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,200 And they'll be like, wow, we thought Isaiah was nuts, 832 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600 but this stuff actually works. 833 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,600 The demons obey us. 834 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,720 And I'll tell you why it works 835 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,120 because the Bible says it works. 836 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,880 The Bible has given us power and authority. 837 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,680 And if you get this book, you're gonna realize 838 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,120 there's scripture throughout the entire book. 839 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,640 In fact, the second chapter is all scripture. 840 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,960 It's all the ministry of Jesus 841 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,160 and him casting out demons everywhere he went. 842 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440 And some people will be shocked going like, 843 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,340 how did I live my whole life 844 00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:49,480 and not even realize how real this was? 845 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480 It's real, it's happening right now. 846 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,320 And we're called as believers to do it. 847 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,280 And I think this book is gonna help people 848 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,080 to get the tools they need to start doing 849 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,040 what Jesus has called us all to do. 850 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240 Yeah, you mentioned putting on worship music 851 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,520 whenever you're praying for somebody. 852 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Is there any specific songs or specific type of music, 853 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960 like specific style of worship music 854 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,520 that people should use in this to set an atmosphere? 855 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600 How important is the atmosphere for you in this? 856 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Yeah, I think what's important 857 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,680 is making sure the person's comfortable 858 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,360 and making sure that they feel loved 859 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,800 and they feel the compassion. 860 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,160 You definitely wanna make an atmosphere 861 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,640 where they're comfortable to share, 862 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960 they're comfortable to maybe even manifest a demon 863 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,920 because a lot of times the demons 864 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,120 are speaking out of the person 865 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,960 and it could be a very uncomfortable thing. 866 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,440 But making the person comfortable is super crucial. 867 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200 And it's like, you don't wanna go into a room 868 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600 and have the lights blaring on them, no music on, 869 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800 super awkward, very uncomfortable. 870 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880 You wanna set an atmosphere where they're comfortable 871 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,960 to get set free. 872 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800 And for me it's like, okay, this is gonna be funny, 873 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,880 but there's a song, super old school. 874 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600 When I say old school, I'm talking like 10 years ago 875 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800 because that's for me old school, I'm young, right? 876 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,040 But there's a song called Freedom Reigns 877 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880 by a band named Jesus Culture. 878 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,000 And it's an old school song, 879 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,600 it just says freedom reigns in this place. 880 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,840 And it's all about freedom. 881 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,320 That's like my go-to, I play that at every deliverance, 882 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760 I put it on repeat and it just basically says like, 883 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,280 freedom reigns in this place. 884 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,160 And I love that song and I know like demons hate that song 885 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480 because it's all about the freedom Christ has given us. 886 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280 So I would say, I like to put on music that's, you know, 887 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280 chill, not super loud, praise, fast pace, 888 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080 but just real low key worship music 889 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,040 that's about the freedom Christ has set the atmosphere, 890 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,960 invite the Holy Spirit into the room. 891 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,040 Holy Spirit, we invite you, 892 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,600 I want you to lead this deliverance. 893 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,600 I want you to be the one that runs the deliverance. 894 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360 And throughout the whole process, John, 895 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,280 we're letting the Holy Spirit lead. 896 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,280 We're being open, our ears are attentive to what he's saying, 897 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960 whatever direction he wants to go. 898 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800 Yes, we give a seven step framework, but in the book, 899 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800 before I even give the seven steps, I say, 900 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960 if the Holy Spirit leads you otherwise, go with him. 901 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120 They don't go with me if the Holy Spirit leads you otherwise. 902 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600 This is just a guide, it's not ritualistic. 903 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160 It's not like the way the Catholic church does exorcism 904 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,840 where they read specific prayers. 905 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,320 This is not ritualistic. 906 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,840 This is led by the Holy Spirit 907 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,680 taking our authority Christ has given us. 908 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,640 So it's definitely not like, 909 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,120 if you don't go through all seven steps, 910 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,960 it's not gonna work. 911 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680 No, this is about being led by the Spirit. 912 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,320 These steps are just gonna help you 913 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,640 to go through deliverance process 914 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,280 when you stall out, when you get stuck. 915 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920 But at the end of the day, this is a work of the Spirit. 916 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,320 This is not a work of Isaiah. 917 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080 It's not a work of Alexander Pagani. 918 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,680 This is a work of the Holy Spirit. 919 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,000 It's his ministry. 920 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600 He's the one doing the heavy lifting. 921 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,880 We're just his vessels. 922 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,360 We're just the ones carrying him. 923 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,680 He's the one that's gonna do the work. 924 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840 And so be led by the Spirit, put on some worship music, 925 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,240 spend some time in prayer. 926 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,160 It might even help as the deliverance minister 927 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,720 is fast one or two days. 928 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,680 If it's your first deliverance, fast for a day, 929 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,520 fast for two days. 930 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880 I like to fast until the deliverance is over. 931 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800 So if I'm doing a deliverance at six o'clock, 932 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,160 I'll fast all day. 933 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,320 The deliverance, say it's at six, 934 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,800 goes to like, say seven or eight. 935 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,640 And then after eight, nine o'clock, then hey, 936 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,840 I'll eat after the deliverance. 937 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,520 But I like to fast any days that I do deliverance. 938 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,680 I'm fasting that day. 939 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Even days I preach, I fast. 940 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,160 I wanna be ready. 941 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,680 I wanna be in the right mindset. 942 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,560 I wanna have every hindrance blocked. 943 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,240 I don't even wanna be thinking about food. 944 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,800 I wanna have every hindrance out of the way 945 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,460 and just be locked in for what the Lord wants to do. 946 00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:08,760 So yeah, those are just simple steps. 947 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,560 And again, of course, the book's 200 pages. 948 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,380 So I'm just giving you guys in a nutshell. 949 00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:14,840 The book goes into detail what you should wear, 950 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,700 how you should act, 951 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,280 how many people should be in the deliverance. 952 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,720 When I say everything you need to know, 953 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,120 like every little detail is gonna be there 954 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,160 to try to help you guys be real practical about it 955 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920 so you can start doing this ministry. 956 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680 Yeah, you are backing up that claim in a strong way 957 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720 and kudos to you for that. 958 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,000 And so I wanna encourage everybody 959 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,000 to go get How to Cast Out Demons by Isaiah Saldivar. 960 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080 And but before we wrap up here, 961 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,840 I know you said so perfectly 962 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440 that we need to be led by the Holy Spirit. 963 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Isaiah, would you just pray for the people 964 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,040 that have watched this far 965 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,840 that they would be led by the Holy Spirit, 966 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,960 that they would be even filled by the Holy Spirit 967 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,800 through this video, 968 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160 and that they might even be delivered through this video 969 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,440 if they need to do that. 970 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Absolutely, Father, we thank you, Lord, 971 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,360 for what you're doing in this hour. 972 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,720 God, I thank you that those listening, 973 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120 that you've called them to cast out demons. 974 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840 I thank you, Lord, that they hear your voice, 975 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,800 that they know you, 976 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,280 and they are filled with your power. 977 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,480 God, we pray right now for those that might not be. 978 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Lord, we pray you would fill them with your Holy Spirit 979 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,880 as your word says, that you give good gifts. 980 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,400 And all we have to do according to your word 981 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,960 is ask for the Holy Spirit. 982 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,800 For those listening, 983 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,160 just ask him for his Holy Spirit right now. 984 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,160 He'll give it to you. 985 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Father, we ask that you would just pour out right now 986 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,360 on this generation, God. 987 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,560 Pour out on the listeners. 988 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Lord, I pray that you would train them, 989 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,640 that you would equip them. 990 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,920 God, whether they get the book or not, 991 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,760 it doesn't matter, Lord, 992 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,320 that you've called them to do this. 993 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720 And I pray, Holy Spirit, that you would be their guide. 994 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800 I pray, Lord, that you would be their GPS 995 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,200 while they're doing deliverance. 996 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,840 Lord, empower them by your Spirit. 997 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,640 Anoint them by your Spirit, God. 998 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,040 I pray for some of those that are demonized, 999 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,880 even watching. 1000 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Lord, that you would deliver them right now. 1001 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440 We just command every unclean spirit 1002 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,280 to leave them now in Jesus' name. 1003 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,200 Satan, you have no power, you have no authority, 1004 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400 and you have no legal rights to our life. 1005 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720 We pray that they would leave now in Jesus' name. 1006 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,240 Every demon has to go. 1007 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,200 Satan, you have no authority. 1008 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,520 We cancel your plans. 1009 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,040 We cancel your strategies. 1010 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,280 And Father, I just pray right now, 1011 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Lord, have your way. 1012 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,560 God, use them to cast out demons. 1013 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Bring people around them that need deliverance. 1014 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Open the doors, God. 1015 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,000 Set up divine appointments. 1016 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760 I pray, God, that all fear would leave, 1017 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,200 that your word says that you've not given us 1018 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,440 a spirit of fear, but power, love, and a sound mind. 1019 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,360 That we rebuke the spirit of fear, 1020 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,160 and we just pray for a spirit of power, love, 1021 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 and a sound mind just to flow right now for every listener. 1022 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,480 God, anoint them by your Spirit. 1023 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,120 We bless them now in Jesus' name, we pray, amen. 1024 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,320 Amen and amen. 1025 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,920 Isaias Aldivar, thank you so much 1026 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360 for taking the time to be with us today 1027 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,960 and to talk about how to cast out demons. 1028 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Everything you need to know about deliverance. 1029 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,240 I'm looking forward to our next time together. 1030 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Thank you, brother. 1031 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,900 Thanks so much, John, for having me on. 1032 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,320 I appreciate you and love everybody at Charisma. 1033 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960 I'm part of the family now, so we love the Charisma family. 1034 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,000 Guys, go get the book. 1035 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,480 Amazon's an easy place to get it. 1036 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,080 You can get it on Barnes and Noble's website as well. 1037 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,920 Get the book. 1038 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,480 I definitely believe it's gonna help you 1039 00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:03,480 do this ministry God's called us to do.