1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,520 Him and his wife, who was a witch, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,200 tried to recruit me into the coven. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,740 When she took me down to the basement, 4 00:00:07,740 --> 00:00:10,720 all that was down there was a shelf 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,580 that had a piece of velvet on it 6 00:00:12,580 --> 00:00:14,320 and a noose hanging from a beam. 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,320 You could be down here and scream your head off 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,240 and nobody'd ever hear you. 9 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:21,840 Katie, Susie, it's great to have you here on Charisma. 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,720 And we are excited to partner with you for this book, 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,160 The Serpent and the Soul. 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,360 I mean, wow. 13 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,840 We're talking about serpent spirits 14 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,720 and there's a lot of times that people 15 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,600 just don't understand what we're talking about 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,680 whenever we're talking about serpent spirits 17 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,160 and the need for deliverance. 18 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,160 It sounds a little bit weird. 19 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:45,160 Let's just put it that way. 20 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:46,920 It sounds a little bit weird, a little bit crazy, 21 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,880 but we need to put verbiage to things 22 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,560 and explain things in certain ways 23 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,860 so that people understand that. 24 00:00:52,860 --> 00:00:57,320 So I am super excited about this conversation, Katie. 25 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,160 So it's great to have you here on Charisma. 26 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Thanks, thanks, John. 27 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,280 Thanks so much. 28 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,860 Yeah, I'm glad you are braving the waters, so to speak, 29 00:01:06,860 --> 00:01:08,480 because it's true. 30 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,680 These things are real and the church is ill-equipped 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,160 to come against this level of warfare in this hour, 32 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,380 which is absolutely swarming every believer. 33 00:01:18,380 --> 00:01:20,820 So it's necessary that we understand these things. 34 00:01:20,820 --> 00:01:22,920 Jesus talked about it. 35 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,200 In Luke 10, He said that we've been given authority 36 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,240 to trample on serpents and scorpions 37 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,840 and over all the power of the enemy 38 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,960 and nothing shall in any way harm us. 39 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:32,000 Now, when He's speaking that, 40 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,160 He's not talking about just snakes in the natural 41 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,920 because in context, right before that, 42 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,080 the disciples came back from a missionary trip saying, 43 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,600 even the demons submitted to us in your name. 44 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,840 And Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning 45 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,860 from the sky. 46 00:01:47,860 --> 00:01:50,600 I've given you authority to trample on serpents 47 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,720 and scorpions. 48 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Now, so in context, He's talking about demonic spirits. 49 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Now, if you think about it, if He's telling these guys, 50 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,920 hey, I've given you authority to trample on these snakes 51 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,760 right after they said, 52 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,520 even the demons submitted to us in your name. 53 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,200 That means that many of the demonic entities 54 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,520 that the disciples took on during their missionary journey 55 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,940 were demons that came in the form of serpents and scorpions. 56 00:02:17,940 --> 00:02:19,940 So these are real. 57 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:21,840 They're very hard to see 58 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,320 and that's why many Christians miss them, 59 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,640 but we need to know about them 60 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:29,520 because Jesus told us in the Great Commission in Mark 16 61 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,800 that we're gonna preach the gospel, baptize the nations. 62 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,480 We're gonna heal the sick, drive out demons, 63 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,880 raise the dead and take up serpents. 64 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,760 That's called the Great Commission for a reason 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,200 because it's great in its scope. 66 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,020 It is for every single believer, 67 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:47,360 not just for a snake hunter like myself. 68 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,880 And that word take up there is the Greek word, iro. 69 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,140 It means to remove anything that's attached to anything. 70 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:56,040 So once people begin to understand 71 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 the activity of these demonic serpents, 72 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,560 they'll see that they are attached to anything. 73 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,840 They are attached to people's bank accounts, their money, 74 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,960 their family, their marriage, they're breaking up marriages. 75 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,120 They're causing your body to be sick. 76 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,180 They're causing your business to split apart. 77 00:03:13,180 --> 00:03:15,640 They're causing strife and division in the church. 78 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,640 I have scriptures for all of these things. 79 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,440 I'm not just saying a list right now. 80 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,320 I have backup scriptures that we don't have time to, 81 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,960 you know, expound on right now 82 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,760 for every claim that I'm making. 83 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,520 And many people do not see these serpents 84 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,000 because Genesis three says that they're the most craftiest 85 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,940 beast of the field. 86 00:03:34,940 --> 00:03:36,920 Them snakes are sneaky. 87 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,700 They have, they are masters of camouflage technology, 88 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:44,000 which means that even in the natural, when you see a snake 89 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,940 and it's very hard to see them, 90 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:50,540 their scales blend in with their surroundings. 91 00:03:50,540 --> 00:03:53,000 You know, desert snakes like rattlers, 92 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,880 you won't even see them. 93 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,880 You'll hear them because their scales match the rocks 94 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,240 and the sand and every part of the desert scheme. 95 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,600 You go into the jungle and 800 pound anaconda 96 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 can slither silently through the trees 97 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,680 because it's so stealth. 98 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,780 It has so much camouflage technology. 99 00:04:10,780 --> 00:04:13,320 Its scales blend into the jungle foliage. 100 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,680 You won't know it's even there 101 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,580 until it's already dropped around its prey 102 00:04:16,580 --> 00:04:19,680 and squeezed it to death and is squeezing it to death. 103 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,680 See, these snakes are very, very camouflage able. 104 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,520 And so then they hide themselves on people's bodies 105 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,880 in their lives without us being able to see them. 106 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,340 That's what we have to say in the fiery presence of God. 107 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:37,720 When Paul, you know, accidentally picked up a serpent 108 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,840 on the island of Malta while picking up a bundle of sticks 109 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:43,000 because it was cold night, they were shipwrecked, 110 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,680 he was building a fire. 111 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,320 He didn't know he had a deadly viper inside that bundle 112 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,080 because the serpent looked just like one of the sticks. 113 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,160 But when he threw it on the fire, 114 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,200 the heat of the fire drove it out of hiding. 115 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,040 When we get into the fiery presence of God 116 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,840 through fasting, through tongues, through prayer, 117 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,120 through fiery worship, we will start to actually be able 118 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,720 to see these demonic serpents. 119 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,480 Yeah, so we need to have eyes that see these things 120 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,720 because it's easy to go through life 121 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,360 and just not be paying attention. 122 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,240 But these forces of darkness that are out there are real. 123 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,440 They're not just imaginary. 124 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,080 It's not just a Disney evil cloud that comes over. 125 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,640 There is so much real to this that it's actually more real 126 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,960 than our physical reality. 127 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,360 So we as believers need to be able to stand against that. 128 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,200 And I love how you talk about fire and how important it is 129 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,000 because the fire is what really kind of separates us 130 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,840 from that. 131 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,240 So explain about fire and the hedge of protection. 132 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:49,440 Okay, well, fire, okay, so think about it. 133 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,720 Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household. 134 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,160 We all know that. 135 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,720 In Exodus four, in the Amplified Classic, 136 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,560 it says that when Moses was up on the mountain 137 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,440 with God and the fiery bush was up there, 138 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,440 that the rod became a serpent. 139 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,720 And in the Amplified Classic, it says that that, 140 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,160 when it became a serpent, it was a symbol 141 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,440 of the serpent that was on the crown of Pharaoh 142 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,280 that symbolized the power of Pharaoh. 143 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,160 That's actually in the Bible. 144 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Okay, so what does all this mean? 145 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household. 146 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,640 As a young prince of Egypt, he was required 147 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,720 to have the education of Egypt. 148 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,720 The Egyptians understood something very important. 149 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,280 The more educated there's civilians, 150 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:38,240 that they're people of the nation, 151 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,960 the stronger the nation would be. 152 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,040 So part of the education system that was very important 153 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,240 to the Egyptians was for all Egyptians 154 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,840 to learn about the pantheon of gods that Egypt worshiped. 155 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:54,720 Now, as a prince of Egypt, he was in Pharaoh's household, 156 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,240 he had to learn about the power god that was over the palace. 157 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,680 The wadjet, the serpent was on the crown of Pharaoh. 158 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,680 So that was the reigning god in Pharaoh's household. 159 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,360 So Moses is taught, as he was growing up, 160 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,920 to worship the snake. 161 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,000 To bring offerings to the serpent. 162 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,800 To learn how to serve the serpent. 163 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,240 So then when he leaves that household, 164 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,400 when you are exposed to that level of occultic activity, 165 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,520 that stays with you until it gets exposed and healed. 166 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,440 Now, look, people say, well, how do you, 167 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,040 well, it says in the Bible that that serpent 168 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,960 in Exodus four, go read in the Amplified Classic, 169 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,440 is the reigning power in Pharaoh's household. 170 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,400 And look at Pharaoh's magicians. 171 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Their rods turned into snakes. 172 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,600 Because that was the reigning god of the household. 173 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,280 So their magic was surrounded by serpents. 174 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,600 So here is Moses, he's in the desert, 175 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,360 and he sees a bush that's on fire, but does not burn. 176 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,600 And he says, I'm gonna go see this thing. 177 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,960 I'm gonna go see this thing. 178 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,680 I'm gonna turn aside and look at it. 179 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 He goes up, and while he's standing in front 180 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,720 of the fiery bush that does not burn, 181 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 God begins to commission Moses to go, 182 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,200 you're gonna go into Egypt, you're gonna free my people 183 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,800 from the rule of Pharaoh, the snake king, 184 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 and you're gonna go to a land that I promised you 185 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,600 and take possession of it. 186 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,560 So as he's doing this, and I'll even go to the chapter, 187 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,560 because it's so powerful. 188 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Moses says in verse one of Exodus four, 189 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,440 oh, look, when I go to my people, 190 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,280 they will not believe me or listen to me. 191 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,200 They'll not believe that I met with you. 192 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,160 That you've appeared to me. 193 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 And the second verse, the Lord doesn't even address 194 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,360 his question, he says to him, what is that in your hand? 195 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,960 And Moses answers the rod. 196 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Do we actually believe that God doesn't know 197 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,200 what's in Moses' hand? 198 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,040 The rod. 199 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,040 You know, no. 200 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,080 What, the reason why God is asking that is because 201 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,400 he wants to know if Moses knows what he's been carrying 202 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,240 around for his entire life since Egypt. 203 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,600 A snake who is a master of camouflage 204 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,400 has been disguising itself as a rod. 205 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,680 That's why he asked himself, 206 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,160 that's why God asked Moses, what's in your hand? 207 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,000 He says, a rod. 208 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,840 No, it's not really a rod. 209 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Then on the next verse, verse three, 210 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,640 he says, now cast it on the ground. 211 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,200 So when Moses cast that rod on the ground 212 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,120 in front of the fiery bush, it says it became 213 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,400 what it really was, a serpent, the symbol of royal 214 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,560 and divine power worn on the crown of Pharaohs. 215 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,280 And Moses fled from it. 216 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,360 See, in the fiery presence of God, 217 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,280 the fire will drive the snake out of hiding. 218 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,440 See, Paul, let's go back to Paul for a second. 219 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,120 He's carrying around a bundle of sticks. 220 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,320 He doesn't know he's got that serpent in. 221 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,480 He throws it on the fire. 222 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,200 The fire drives it out of hiding. 223 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,520 It bites him, but he shakes it off. 224 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,640 He's left unharmed. 225 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,480 That's how powerful the fire of God is. 226 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,680 Now, here's the interesting part. 227 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,760 When you look up that story, 228 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,920 it says that he's carrying a bundle of sticks. 229 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,480 The word bundle there means a multitude of men. 230 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Go look it up. 231 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,080 It means a multitude of men, 232 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,360 meaning the multitude of men are carrying around serpents 233 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,560 and they don't know it. 234 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:12,680 And here's Moses. 235 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,360 He's been carrying around a serpent, 236 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,560 disguised, camouflaged technology, 237 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:18,680 as a staff his whole life. 238 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:21,320 And here's God trying to commission him, 239 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,960 commissioning him, not trying, commissioning him 240 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,880 to go and free the Israelites from captivity in Egypt. 241 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:29,880 And what happens? 242 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,840 You've got to get desnake-ified. 243 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,360 You've got to get rid of these serpents 244 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,520 you're carrying around before you can carry out 245 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,760 the commissioning of God. 246 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,480 Moses would not be able to free the Israelites 247 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:45,320 from captivity in Egypt against the snake king. 248 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,320 He would not be able to win the war against the snake king 249 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,280 if he had a serpent on himself. 250 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,120 Because Jesus said in John 14, 30, 251 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,800 the prince's world is coming, but he's nothing in me. 252 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,440 That's in common with him, so he has no power over me. 253 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,320 So Moses couldn't have anything in him 254 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,080 that was in common with the pharaoh, the snake king. 255 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,360 That way pharaoh wouldn't have any power over Moses. 256 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,000 God had to meet Moses on that mountain with a fiery bush. 257 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,480 He doesn't just pick signs out of a hat, 258 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,320 like today I'll do a rainbow, 259 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,160 tomorrow I'll do snow and hail, 260 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,480 tomorrow I'll do the Red Sea party. 261 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,440 No, he picked specific signs and wonders 262 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,000 at specific times for specific reasons. 263 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,640 He picked the fiery bush that did not burn up 264 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,720 on the mountain to meet Moses there 265 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,800 so that the fiery bush would drive that snake 266 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,920 out of hiding that Moses had been carrying around 267 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,600 his whole life so that Moses could then pick up the rod. 268 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Because afterwards, God said, 269 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,280 now pick it up by the tail. 270 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,160 That's nuts, you don't pick up a snake by the tail, 271 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,120 it'll swing around and bite you. 272 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,240 But God wanted to show him, 273 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,560 you didn't have dominion over it before, 274 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,960 that's why you fled from it, that's what the Bible said, 275 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,320 fled from it when it turned into a snake, 276 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,080 when it turned into what it really was. 277 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,880 But now that you're getting healed and delivered 278 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,800 in the presence of my fire, pick it up by the tail. 279 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,640 What did it do? 280 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,520 It turned back into the rod. 281 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,360 But this time, it was the real rod of power. 282 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,520 The real rod of power that would call down plagues upon Egypt 283 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,960 and the snake king, that would part the Red Sea, 284 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,320 that would strike the rock and water would come out 285 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,360 in the middle of the desert. 286 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,440 He then carried the real rod of power. 287 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,560 We've got to get rid of these snakes that we're carrying 288 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:24,440 so that we're carrying the real rod of power of God 289 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,640 so that we can truly deliver people from the world. 290 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Yeah, so getting rid of these snakes that we're carrying, 291 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Katie, I got to ask, how did God get rid of the snakes 292 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,240 in your life? 293 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,920 Can you tell us a little bit about that? 294 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,680 Revelation, Revelation, God just said, 295 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:43,200 you know, he started, he always does the same thing with me. 296 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,760 I get in the presence for elongated periods of time, 297 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,040 and then he starts giving me scripture, 298 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,080 and then he'll give me one scripture 299 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,840 and he'll link it to a next scripture, 300 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,560 then he'll link it to the next scripture, 301 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:55,920 then he'll link it to the next scripture 302 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,880 until he builds this very solid harmonious doctrine 303 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,600 throughout the text to show me 304 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,400 this is not just this little word here, 305 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 this is actually a revelatory insight, 306 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,080 a teaching that can get people freed. 307 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,920 So that process, whenever it happens like that for me, 308 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,000 that's how all my teachings have been birthed, 309 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,800 is that it comes to me and I walk it out myself 310 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,480 and I get free myself. 311 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,640 And then I can go and then administrate that freedom 312 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,520 with the truth of the word to other people. 313 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Yeah, so it's just like some personal stories 314 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,600 of how God has brought you through some of those things 315 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,880 that you now see that there was a snake, 316 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,520 or that was a python spirit or something like that. 317 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,000 Could you just kind of get a little personal? 318 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,920 I know you've got a great testimony, 319 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,720 so I wanna pull a little bit of that out of here 320 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,600 before we go into more teaching. 321 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,920 Yeah, like I can remember waking up 322 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 shortly after I first started getting this Revelation 323 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,720 and I had a indentation in my breast 324 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,480 about the depth of the tip of my pinky finger, 325 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,720 which is pretty deep, it's like that deep. 326 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,720 And so I was like, what is this God? 327 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,720 And he said, I want you to soak in fire and I'll show you. 328 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,080 I was on tour at the time, I spent the night up, 329 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,960 singing a fire song and then falling asleep 330 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,240 and then getting up and singing the fire song, 331 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,240 falling asleep and just pressing with fire all night long. 332 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Finally, I had a vision. 333 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,640 I had a vision of a serpent up on its tail 334 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,400 with this triangular jaw, which means that they're venomous, 335 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,800 striking at me. 336 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,840 And I said, what is that Lord? 337 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,000 And he goes, that's the snake 338 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,600 that's trying to give you breast cancer. 339 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,600 So I did what Jesus said to do, take up serpents. 340 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,880 I prophetically did an act where I pulled that snake off 341 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,480 of that area of my body and cast it into the abyss, 342 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,880 the fiery abyss, and then the Lord says, 343 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,040 now take communion for the next three days a lot 344 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,920 and command the venom to come out of your body. 345 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,520 So I did. 346 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,040 And I command the venom to come out 347 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,360 and I was taking the communion. 348 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,120 And I taking the communion because see, 349 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,440 people don't understand when you're taking communion. 350 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,400 Okay, the very first prophecy about Christ 351 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,880 is the seed of the woman will crush the head 352 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,520 of the seed of the serpent. 353 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,440 Seed of the woman, Jesus Christ, 354 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,880 will curse the head of the seed of the serpent. 355 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,520 That's in Genesis three, where the serpent 356 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,400 is now shipwrecked all of mankind. 357 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,080 And when we take communion, we're doing it in remembrance 358 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,000 of Christ's work on the cross. 359 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,960 That's where the crushing took place. 360 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,920 So I was taking the communion, 361 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,280 I was commanding the venom to come out. 362 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 And for three days I was balled up in my bed 363 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,080 in agonizing pain, because that part, 364 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,160 that area of my body was just in agonizing pain. 365 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,640 And I thought for a second, I just made it mad. 366 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,520 I didn't get rid of it, I just made it mad. 367 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,120 But that's not what it was. 368 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,560 On the third day when I got up, 369 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,080 I went to the bathroom to take a shower 370 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,920 and that indentation had fully grown in, it had filled in. 371 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,200 The pain I was feeling was the regeneration 372 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,160 of the breast tissue being healed 373 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,840 and regenerated from that cancer, 374 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,960 the venom that the enemy was pumping into my breast. 375 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,960 So that's just one example. 376 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,200 And I see many people like, I just came back from a meeting 377 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,920 and there was a girl there, she had a full spinal fusion. 378 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Every disc fused to the other disc by metal. 379 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,680 And metal rods in her back. 380 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,120 She could only turn this much. 381 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 And if she turned any more, she was in excretionary pain 382 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,160 and the doctor said, if you try to force it and turn more, 383 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,520 you're gonna snap the bars 384 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,920 and you're gonna have to have surgery to fix it. 385 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,280 And so they brought her over to me, 386 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,080 I prayed for her and she had snakes up and down her spine. 387 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,040 And I just pulled them all off, take up serpents. 388 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,760 That's what Jesus said. 389 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,000 And very quickly, she was turning all the way around to her. 390 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,200 I can't even turn as far as her. 391 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,160 We call her Elastigirl now. 392 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,560 She was turning all the way around, both ways, 393 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,720 leaning all the way back, totally healed. 394 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,040 This is, I see that happen all the time. 395 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,280 I have people check people's spines before I pray for them. 396 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,640 And they check, okay, it's crooked. 397 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,600 It goes like this and then it indents like this. 398 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,680 And then I pray for them. 399 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,480 I pull the snake up their back 400 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,800 and the spine literally snaps into place straight, 401 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,840 straight as an arrow, bam. 402 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,680 There's the spine perfectly aligned 403 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,760 with the right curve in it where it's supposed to be, 404 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,760 straight on the front view, everything. 405 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,320 This is real. 406 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,680 And I have seen massive, massive, massive miracles 407 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,440 of every kind from this revelation. 408 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Amen, amen. 409 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,080 You mentioned about fire songs. 410 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,240 Could you tell us what that actually is? 411 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Because I'm really interested. 412 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,760 I've been a worship leader for many years myself. 413 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,880 I know there's songs that talk about fire, 414 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,120 but help us understand what that means 415 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:46,600 and what that type of, I guess, intercessory worship 416 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,280 might look like. 417 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Well, just take, fire down to my soul, all consuming fire. 418 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,080 There's songs that talk about fire 419 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,280 that you can sing along with 420 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,120 and just really get fiery with it. 421 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,200 There are other songs that they don't even mention fire, 422 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,920 but they are fiery in their content. 423 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,520 They are fiery in the music progressions 424 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,320 and the melody lines and everything else in the choruses 425 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,680 that if you play them on repeat 426 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,440 and you just sing, sing, sing, 427 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,680 and really worship and get fiery, 428 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,640 that brings the burning. 429 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,960 That brings the Holy Spirit, 430 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,040 also crying out for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. 431 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,480 When John the Baptist said, 432 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,120 oh, you're brood of vipers. 433 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,840 And he said, the acts that the root of the trees repent. 434 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,640 Therefore, before your tree gets cut down 435 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,080 and thrown into the fire. 436 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,240 And then he says, one is coming who is gonna baptize you 437 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,640 with the Holy Spirit and fire. 438 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,600 So when we see that John the Baptist talking about Jesus 439 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,320 coming to baptize us with the Holy Spirit and fire, 440 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,280 it's in context with John the Baptist 441 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,480 bringing you judgments against the Pharisees 442 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,240 who were called, oh, you brood of vipers. 443 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Meaning there were men, 444 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,160 human beings controlled by demonic snakes. 445 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,440 Wow. 446 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,680 So there's all throughout the Bible, 447 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,360 the snake is a bad thing, obviously. 448 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,720 But Jesus does say that we're supposed to be 449 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,840 wisest serpents and gentlest doves. 450 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,840 That's a little bit different than that. 451 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,800 But in the Old Testament, you have Jesus, 452 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,600 or I'm sorry, God told Moses to make a stick, 453 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,960 make a staff and put a serpent on it 454 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,360 that was made out of copper or gold or bronze 455 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,080 or something like that. 456 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,720 What kind of revelation do you have about that 457 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,280 in regards to the serpent? 458 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Because that seems to be a little bit confusing. 459 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,680 It actually isn't, and there's so much there. 460 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,960 I don't know if I can, 461 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,760 I'll try to synopsize it very shortly for you. 462 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,640 The story begins in Numbers 21, 463 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:44,920 where it says that the people, 464 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,480 their souls have become much discouraged 465 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,560 because of the way. 466 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,680 When your soul gets wounded 467 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,200 because of the trials of the journey, 468 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,440 because of the stressors, because of the traumas, 469 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,920 what happens is you begin to speak 470 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,960 out of the pain in your soul. 471 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,200 And that's what they did. 472 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,480 Next thing you know, they're saying, 473 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,120 oh, they spoke against God and against Moses, it said. 474 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:05,360 Why have you brought us out of Egypt, into this desert? 475 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,200 And we hate, we loathe this manna. 476 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Okay, they even brought up, they said, 477 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,400 we loathe this light bread, our soul loathe this manna. 478 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 And then it says, and God sent fiery serpents to bite them. 479 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,480 Why would God do that? 480 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,560 Well, remember we just talked about the communion. 481 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,560 The communion is partaking of the moment 482 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Christ crushed the head of the serpent. 483 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,240 And here they are, they're loathing the manna. 484 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Well, in 1 Corinthians, I believe it's 10, 485 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Paul says, when they were in the desert, 486 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,240 they ate from the same, they ate the same spiritual food 487 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,320 and they drank from the same spiritual rock. 488 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,040 And that rock was Christ. 489 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Meaning he was saying that they were foreshadowing 490 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,920 and the desert, they were eating communion. 491 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,360 They were eating the spiritual bread, the manna, 492 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,880 the living bread that came down from heaven. 493 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,280 Jesus called himself that, John 6. 494 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,760 They were drinking from the rock, which was Christ. 495 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,760 That's why when Moses struck the rock twice, 496 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,880 he couldn't go in the promised land 497 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,320 because he was actually striking Christ twice. 498 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,160 Christ only needed to be struck once on the cross. 499 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,960 Not twice. 500 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Wow. 501 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,280 So he was striking the son of God. 502 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,680 And here's the people in the desert, 503 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,400 their souls have gotten much discouraged 504 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,680 because of the way they're speaking 505 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,560 out of the pain in their souls. 506 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,600 We all do it. 507 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,480 We, you know, like, oh, I can't believe this. 508 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Oh, and that person and oh, and this and that. 509 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,240 And everybody gets all worked up 510 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,280 when their soul has been wounded by the trials of the way. 511 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,400 And as part of their confessions out of their mouth, 512 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960 they went against God and against Moses. 513 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,240 And they said, we hate this manna. 514 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Our soul hated that. 515 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,320 It's like, you know what? 516 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,560 That's the living bread. 517 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,040 It's a foreshadowing of Christ. 518 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,200 And you just said you hate it 519 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,880 and you don't want to eat it anymore. 520 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,400 So here comes the fiery snakes to bite them. 521 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,160 Moses then takes a bronze serpent 522 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,320 and puts it up on the pole. 523 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,440 What is that? 524 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,880 Jesus said, just as Moses lifted up the serpent 525 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,760 in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up 526 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,680 so that all who look upon him will believe. 527 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,200 Okay, so what does this mean? 528 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,400 This means that the serpent on the pole, 529 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,920 you think, why would they? 530 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,360 And they're supposed to look attentively 531 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,400 and expectantly at it. 532 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,120 And if they did, they would live 533 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,280 because that serpent on the pole represented Christ. 534 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,200 How so? 535 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,720 How can a snake represent Christ? 536 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,440 Because Christ literally nailed the serpent 537 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,720 in the garden from the garden on up to the cross 538 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,600 when he died at Calvary. 539 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,160 He took all of that that the serpent did against us 540 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,920 and nailed it to his cross. 541 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,120 So when they're seeing this bronze serpent on the pole, 542 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:47,040 it's representing God nailing the works, 543 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,040 the attacks, the assaults of the serpent onto the cross, 544 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,680 onto the place where Christ took all of it for us. 545 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,440 And that's why I said, if you sit there 546 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,640 and you look expectantly and attentively 547 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,080 at the serpent on the cross, you will live. 548 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,000 They're all getting bit. 549 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Many of them died. 550 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,200 I can imagine even seeing the bites on people 551 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,520 as they're sitting there trying their hardest, 552 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,240 just to have faith and believe, I'm not gonna die. 553 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,080 I just got bit. 554 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,900 I'm not gonna die. 555 00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:14,740 I just got bit. 556 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:15,680 And they're looking at the serpent on the pole, 557 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,160 which is Christ on the cross. 558 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,600 And they're living and the venom is, 559 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,960 instead of going into their body, 560 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,800 is actually being poured out of their body. 561 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,040 I believe that's true. 562 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,600 That's just my opinion for me seeing cancer 563 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,160 pour out of people's bodies. 564 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,360 And it looks like running yellow venom liquid of a serpent 565 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,440 where I've seen all kinds of things like that 566 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,960 come out of people's bodies when the serpent is judged. 567 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,120 And I love how they loved the manna. 568 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,240 They didn't wanna eat it. 569 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,020 So God says, if you don't wanna eat my son's living bread, 570 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:48,360 his body, shit for you on the cross, 571 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,160 guess what, you're gonna look at it. 572 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,120 Wow. 573 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,600 That is a powerful revelation. 574 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,640 And we can go much deeper into that 575 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,840 at some other point too. 576 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,040 But I know that you go into so much in your book, 577 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800 but you've had so many amazing 578 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,800 or really incredible experiences with spiritual warfare. 579 00:24:12,220 --> 00:24:14,840 And when you mess with spiritual warfare 580 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,000 and you go after the devil, 581 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080 the devil tries to come after you. 582 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,120 And I know that the devil has some assignments against you, 583 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,520 but you're not afraid of them. 584 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680 And so I'd love to hear you talk about this 585 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,120 a little bit more here. 586 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,360 Some of those things and how you are protecting yourself 587 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,240 and going after them actually. 588 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,640 The number one thing is, 589 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,600 is that you don't have any authority 590 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,160 over anything you're not healed of. 591 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,460 So we have to be healed in our mind, will and emotions, 592 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:46,460 our soul, and in our ancestral bloodline of things, 593 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440 of altars that were set up by witches, 594 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,080 warlocks, demons, and everything else. 595 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,060 And when we do that, when we take the steps 596 00:24:57,060 --> 00:25:00,360 and understand how witches and warlocks 597 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,680 are actually reaching out their hand 598 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,520 from the power of the altars that they built 599 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,720 through blood sacrifices to seize you, 600 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600 that's 1 Kings 13, by the way. 601 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,880 Jeroboom says, from the altar, he reached out and said, 602 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,380 seize the man of God when the prophet came 603 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:17,640 to release a judgment against that altar. 604 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,200 And his hand withered up and dried up. 605 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Why? 606 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,480 Because the prophet had already decreed to the altar, 607 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,640 altar, altar, break apart and pour out ashes. 608 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,880 He'd already destroyed that King Jeroboom's power source. 609 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,560 So he could no longer stretch out his hand 610 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,360 from the power of the altar. 611 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520 So there are things, there's altars in the soul, 612 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,060 there's altars in our bloodline. 613 00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:38,720 There's things that we need to get healed of. 614 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,840 When we do that, then we will be able 615 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 to go after the high level stuff. 616 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,960 And I know you wanna ask me a specific question. 617 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,800 Yes, I do. 618 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Go ahead. I do. 619 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,960 So I heard you talk about shapeshifters 620 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560 and werewolves coming after you, 621 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600 or coming after your family, but you're going after them. 622 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080 I gotta hear more about this because this is, 623 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:05,160 this is not something that I was expecting to hear 624 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 because you think, oh, that's just make-believe or fantasy. 625 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,680 But Katie, I totally believe that what you're saying is true 626 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,820 because I've seen things, I've heard things, 627 00:26:13,820 --> 00:26:14,960 I've experienced things. 628 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,120 And so many times we just kind of like poo poo that, 629 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,720 or we just kind of like write it off as like, 630 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,720 oh, something weird, that's just my imagination. 631 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,760 But there's more to that if our eyes are opened. 632 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,160 Yeah, well, first, let me just bring a couple of texts in 633 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,720 just so people can think that we're, 634 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,680 we haven't completely lost our mind. 635 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,560 A.W. Pink, who is a Calvinist expositor, 636 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,480 teaches about the angel doctrine. 637 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,960 Rick Renner teaches about the angel doctrine in Genesis 6. 638 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600 I mean, there is some men of God, 639 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,600 men, those are just two of a list of highly respected, 640 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,880 doctrinally accurate theologians who have studied scriptures, 641 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,440 studied historical contexts, historical records, 642 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,440 other, not canonized, but books that were well-read 643 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,700 in the time of the disciples, in the time of Jesus, 644 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:18,000 like the book of Enoch, 645 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,240 which is mentioned in the book of Jude and things like that. 646 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,700 They have studied these things and they agree with me. 647 00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,200 This is not me going off the rails 648 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520 because I have some sort of insane position. 649 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,940 You know, Genesis 6, the doctrine of the angels 650 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:36,400 that came down had intimacy, 651 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,060 illegal intimacy with women, took them as wives. 652 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:43,880 And because of their DNA inside of them, 653 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,040 they produced mutants. 654 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,200 They produced giants out of this unholy union 655 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,240 with human women, but they didn't just fornicate 656 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,080 with the women. 657 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600 If you read Genesis 6, I'll go to the scripture, 658 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,280 it says, and God looked upon the world 659 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,920 and saw how degenerate, debased, and vicious it was 660 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,360 for all humanity had corrupted their way on the earth 661 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,360 and lost their directions. 662 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:18,360 And he even goes on to say that I wanna find the, 663 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,160 it says, I will wipe away mankind whom I've created 664 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,200 from the face of the earth. 665 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,000 This is verse seven, not only man, 666 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,360 but the beasts and the creeping things 667 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,200 and the birds of the air, for it grieves me 668 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920 and makes me regretful that I have made them. 669 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Why would God punish the beasts, the animals 670 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,760 that he had created? 671 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,960 Because these angels, these fallen angels 672 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880 were so debased, so perverse, that they not only had 673 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,400 unholy relations with human women, 674 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,200 but also with animals, bestiality, and things like that. 675 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,760 They did experiments. 676 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,440 They were trying to create animals who had their DNA 677 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680 in them so they could be supernatural creatures. 678 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Why would they do that? 679 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Look at what's in heaven, four living creatures, 680 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,760 beasts with wings and eyes that cover their whole body 681 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,680 and beasts that have an ox head and then an eagle head 682 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,680 and a human head and a lion head, all in one creature. 683 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,160 I mean, bizarre looking creatures 684 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120 and what these fallen angels were doing, 685 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,320 were trying to recreate those kinds of things 686 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,040 here on earth. 687 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680 And so they experimented on animals. 688 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,160 They fornicated with animals. 689 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,400 And what happened is out of this fornication 690 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,120 and these experiments came beasts. 691 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,640 And we see that throughout history. 692 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720 You see, you know, satyrs and medusa 693 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240 with the snakes on her heads and, you know, 694 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,000 half fish, half men. 695 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560 And the gods that the Egyptians worship 696 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,440 were frogs with male lower parts and frogs' heads. 697 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,320 I mean, there was these mixtures of men and beasts 698 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,000 of demonic angelic DNA and creatures. 699 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,600 And then in the caves of Quorum, 700 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 the Quorum caves, I think it was back in 1942, 701 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080 don't quote me if that's the wrong year, 702 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280 two shepherd boys are near the caves of Quorum 703 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,880 where a group called the Essenes, 704 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,760 where a group of scribes had lived 705 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080 and they were throwing rocks and there's multiple, 706 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,160 many, many, many, many dozens and dozens of caves 707 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400 in the cliffs in that region. 708 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,040 And these two young men were herding sheep 709 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,960 and they were throwing rocks into the mouths of the caves. 710 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,280 And suddenly they heard pottery crash. 711 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,040 And so they went and told someone, they came back 712 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,040 and all of the scrolls, the Dead Sea scrolls were discovered. 713 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Some of our most accurate translations come 714 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680 from those discoveries of these clay jars 715 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,000 with scrolls inside of them of books 716 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,000 that were handwritten by these scribes from scripture, 717 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,160 the Book of Isaiah, many, many books. 718 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Well, one of the books found in there, 719 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080 though it was very degraded, 720 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,040 was a book called the Book of Monsters. 721 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040 There are monsters in the earth. 722 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,440 Where do you think vampires and werewolves and yetis 723 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000 and the monsters in the deep, 724 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,920 neti and all these other things, 725 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640 do you think that they're just myth? 726 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Do you actually believe they're just myth? 727 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,200 No. 728 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920 They come from real stories, yes. 729 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Yeah, because if you go through archeology 730 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,560 in all these different societies throughout the world, 731 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,960 the creatures that they talk about 732 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600 or that they have stories about, they all are similar. 733 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,360 You know, they talk about dragons. 734 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,240 They talk about, there's a Bigfoot legend all over the world. 735 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,640 You've got the yeti in the Himalayas. 736 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640 You've got Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest. 737 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,040 You've got all these different things, 738 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,840 but the descriptions match of different things. 739 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,360 So there is, obviously they're describing the same thing, 740 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400 but maybe in their own different ways. 741 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,400 So it- 742 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,440 How can people in completely different continents 743 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,440 that don't have phones or email or whatever, 744 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480 all be describing something that's very, very similar 745 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400 to every other continent and civilization 746 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,440 without them being able to communicate unless it's real? 747 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Yeah. 748 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Yeah, and so that really makes you think, 749 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,440 like if these things are really out there, 750 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880 what do we need to do about them? 751 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960 And, you know, if they're out there hiding, 752 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,880 they're more spiritual than we give them credit for, 753 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,960 obviously, and they're, 754 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400 they're, you said that there's a werewolf 755 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000 that's assigned to take you out. 756 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,640 So I gotta hear more about that specifically. 757 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,160 I can't tell the whole story. 758 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,640 It's too lengthy. 759 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,600 But let's just put it this way. 760 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760 The first time I, and it's not, 761 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,520 I don't know if there's a werewolf right now 762 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,120 assigned to take me out. 763 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,760 I haven't seen it, 764 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,840 but I have dealt with many different werewolves 765 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,280 throughout my life. 766 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,720 The first one was up in the mountains, 767 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120 and I placed, I won't mention right now, 768 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080 but I saw it, it chased me, 769 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200 and I was not a believer at that time. 770 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,480 I was walking in sin, I was a drug addict, 771 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,680 and I thought to myself, you're totally lost it. 772 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400 You've hallucinated this thing that's happened to you. 773 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,640 You've hallucinated it. 774 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320 And then a few days later, 775 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,600 I happened to talk to a woman 776 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,240 who was living on that property, 777 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,880 who had escaped the coven. 778 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,640 The werewolf wasn't there for her, it was there for me. 779 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,240 And I had gotten in the way, 780 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560 I think it wasn't there for me, it was there for her, 781 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,040 because I'd been disobedient to the coven. 782 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,840 And I had gotten in the way. 783 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,040 And then what happened is I actually met the werewolf 784 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,880 and was, him and his wife, who was a witch, 785 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,800 tried to recruit me into the coven. 786 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,560 They invited me to their house, 787 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760 and I'm gonna keep this story very short. 788 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400 It's almost too wild to talk about. 789 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,560 But while I was up there, 790 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,800 because remember, I'm a drug addict, 791 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,400 I'm tough chick from the street, 792 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,120 ex-collector, ex-drug dealer, 793 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,120 still just on the fringes of all that, 794 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,960 and these occultic people recognized 795 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040 a very good power source in me. 796 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,000 It's like, she goes this way with God, she's trouble for us. 797 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,640 But when she comes this way for us, 798 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,320 she's a power source for us. 799 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,160 Because I was operating in that level. 800 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,840 And when I met them, I went to their house with his wife, 801 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,280 I had no idea who they really were. 802 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,480 And she showed me this house that they had constructed, 803 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,080 and in the basement, 804 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,640 when she took me down to the basement, 805 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,560 all that was down there was a water tank, 806 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,160 a shelf that had a piece of velvet on it, 807 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,320 and a noose hanging from a beam. 808 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,320 And when I picked up the velvet piece of fabric, 809 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,720 it was actually a long black mask with the eyes cut out. 810 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:07,920 And when I asked her, what's this? 811 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,800 They were posing as Christians. 812 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,240 She said, oh, that's for my husband during Halloween. 813 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,120 And I said, I thought you people are Christians, 814 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,560 and you don't do that. 815 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,840 And I go, and what's all, 816 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560 and upstairs there was barrels of hooch, 817 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,400 and I was like, I thought you got, 818 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,720 Christians don't drink. 819 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,080 She's like, oh, you know, we just drink a little bit. 820 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,920 It's like a little bit, 821 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,440 you got major hooch going on in here. 822 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,520 I used to make hooch in prison. 823 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200 And it's like, I know what hooch is. 824 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,560 And so I went down in this basement, 825 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,600 and then I came in and there was only a beam 826 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,280 with a noose on it, 827 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,040 but the floor was so, it was not very tall. 828 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,600 The ceiling was not tall. 829 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,200 So if you were to hang somebody from the noose, 830 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,800 their feet would actually touch the ground. 831 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,120 So underneath this noose was dug out. 832 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,600 This is the first time I've said this on TV. 833 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,640 I hope you're happy. 834 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,240 Keep going, keep going. 835 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,320 They had dug out a hole. 836 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,360 So if anybody were to hang, 837 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,120 their feet wouldn't touch the ground. 838 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,920 And then a hole was full of dry blood. 839 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Now I'm a tough chick from the street, 840 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,520 and they know that. 841 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,120 And I'm looking at her and I'm like, 842 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,960 so what's up with that? 843 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,920 She goes, oh, you know, 844 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,200 you know, when we built this, 845 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,200 she goes, she completely like ignores that question. 846 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,240 She goes, when we built this, 847 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:20,080 we made like layers, like seven to 10 feet of rock, 848 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160 and wood, and dirt, and cement. 849 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,200 That's why you could be down here 850 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,960 and scream your head off, 851 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,520 and nobody'd ever hear you. 852 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,200 Oh my gosh. 853 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Her husband shows up and he peeks into the basement 854 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,760 and goes, what are y'all doing down there? 855 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,640 And she goes, I'm just showing Katie the cellar 856 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,720 to the coal cellar. 857 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:38,800 And I booked it. 858 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,040 We had snowmobiles up there. 859 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,880 I booked it. 860 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,720 I said, well, I gotta go. 861 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:42,560 See you guys later. 862 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,400 Oh! 863 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,520 And jumped on the snowmobile and ripped down the hill. 864 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,760 And then like two weeks later, 865 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840 I'm with the woman that was rescued from the coven. 866 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,520 We go down to a local hangout 867 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,960 where only the locals go to hang out 868 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,720 to go get some lunch down at the bottom of the mountain. 869 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,080 And when we walked in, 870 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,760 I found out later, 871 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,360 the whole coven was their meeting for lunch. 872 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,200 The whole coven. 873 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,800 When we walked in, they were all like, 874 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480 they sat there and stared at us for 15 minutes 875 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,320 while I ordered. 876 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,280 They stopped eating. 877 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,120 They stopped talking. 878 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,960 They just like, 879 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,200 and I got straight up at it. 880 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,040 So I'm just like, 881 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,480 staring them back. 882 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,320 Like what? 883 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,760 I hide my friend behind me. 884 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,600 I ordered it. 885 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,640 We backed out of the restaurant. 886 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,800 Oh my gosh, you can't believe I'm telling this story. 887 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,640 Okay. 888 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,320 Got in the car and out comes the husband. 889 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,920 And he gets in his car and he chases us up the hill, 890 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,080 all the way up the hill. 891 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,160 And when we jumped into where the house was, 892 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,400 where we were at, the property, 893 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360 the road turns up to the right really severely. 894 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,240 He turned up. 895 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,400 I looked out and he's hanging out the window 896 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,480 and he's already morphing. 897 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,320 And that's when I knew that he was the werewolf 898 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,920 that I had seen, that I hadn't told anybody about. 899 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,480 And his wife was the witch. 900 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,080 And it ended up that they got a warrant put out for them 901 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,320 because they had a cougar as a pet 902 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,240 and the cops came up there. 903 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,680 But before the cops could come up, 904 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,320 they burned that A-frame to the ground. 905 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,720 And outside that A-frame was a, 906 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,760 I can't believe I'm telling this story. 907 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,760 Are we in trouble yet? 908 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,320 It's too late now. 909 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,920 Was a Tibetan monk dome. 910 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,840 There's only six of them in the world. 911 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,240 And they have Tibetan monk bones inside of them. 912 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,200 This is out in the middle of nowhere. 913 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Like, what is a Tibetan monk bone, 914 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,080 a Tibetan monk dome doing here 915 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,160 with Tibetan monk bones in it. 916 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,080 It's a power source. 917 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,200 When you lay out the map and you draw lines, 918 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,720 it forms a pentagram. 919 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,720 And that was their power source. 920 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,200 That was their altar. 921 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,680 They burned that house to the ground. 922 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,360 And when the authorities came, they had fled. 923 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,000 And the house they had built, 924 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,600 cause they had built that house with the cellar 925 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,000 that you could scream your hand off 926 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,360 and nobody'd ever hear you. 927 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960 Wow. So God protected you from that 928 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,640 even before you were really walking with him. 929 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,280 That's my first encounter with a werewolf. 930 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,440 So, you know, everybody can talk smack, 931 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,280 but they haven't dealt with the occult 932 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,720 like I've had to deal with the occult. 933 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,320 And I've learned a lot about dealing with the occult. 934 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,440 So anyway, that is that. 935 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040 And I don't even, I might even just tell you, 936 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,280 you have to edit that all out. 937 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,240 I don't know. 938 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,280 I have to talk to my staff 939 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,120 because we haven't talked about that yet. 940 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,080 So. Yeah. 941 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,480 But Katie, as we're, 942 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,640 I know our time is a little bit short here today, 943 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,760 but I want to make sure that we give you an opportunity 944 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,200 to pray for the people that have been watching 945 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,120 because spiritual warfare is a very real thing. 946 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160 And the serpent and the soul is something 947 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,720 that we need to be paying attention to 948 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,600 and be aware of so that we have a battle plan 949 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,480 to not fall prey to the enemy. 950 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560 Would you just take this, take the next couple of minutes 951 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,240 and just pray for the people that have been watching 952 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,480 and that they would be encouraged to take the stand 953 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,320 and shake off those serpents? 954 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,680 Yeah. You know, let's just go to the power source. 955 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040 Just repeat after me and say, Lord God. 956 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,880 Lord God. 957 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,360 If there's an altar in my bloodline. 958 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,880 If there's an altar in my bloodline. 959 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,880 Or my life. 960 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,720 Or my life. 961 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,880 Where demonic sacrifices. 962 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,200 Where demonic sacrifices. 963 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,280 Have been made. 964 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,120 Have been made. 965 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,480 In exchange. 966 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,360 In exchange. 967 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,480 For power. 968 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,320 For power. 969 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,240 Money. 970 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,080 Money. 971 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,600 Influence and favor. 972 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,960 Influence and favor. 973 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,120 I do as the prophet did in 1 Kings 13. 974 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,440 I do as the prophet did in 1 Kings 13. 975 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,160 I judge that altar. 976 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,240 I judge that altar. 977 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,720 I commanded to break apart and pour out ashes. 978 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,640 I commanded to break apart and pour out ashes. 979 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,480 And become not effective in my life. 980 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,520 And become non-effective in my life. 981 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,320 And I decree that every witch or warlock. 982 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,480 And I decree that every witch or warlock. 983 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,760 Or cultic person. 984 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,240 Or a cultic person. 985 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:57,960 Can no longer stretch forth their hand 986 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,760 from that altar to seize me. 987 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,280 Can no longer stretch forth their hand 988 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,240 from that altar to seize me. 989 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,080 In the name of Jesus. 990 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,040 In the name of Jesus. 991 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,800 And I decree then. 992 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,800 And I decree then. 993 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,040 that their curses are null and void, 994 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,780 that their curses are null and void, 995 00:41:11,780 --> 00:41:12,780 they're illegal, 996 00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:13,800 they're illegal. 997 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,800 Because Jesus already became a curse for me, 998 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,380 because Jesus already became a curse for me. 999 00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:20,320 And I decree, 1000 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,440 and I decree. 1001 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,620 Serpents, 1002 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:23,460 serpents, 1003 00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:24,940 who are carrying out the curse. 1004 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:26,340 Who are carrying out the curse. 1005 00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:29,620 Are now arrested and restrained by court order. 1006 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,580 Are now arrested and restrained by court order. 1007 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:34,200 I can no longer attack my body, 1008 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,120 I can no longer attack my body. 1009 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,080 My mind, 1010 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,960 My mind. 1011 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,000 My family. 1012 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,840 My family. 1013 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,760 My friends. 1014 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,840 My friends. 1015 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,200 Any part of my life. 1016 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,160 Any part of my life. 1017 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,120 My business. 1018 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,960 My business. 1019 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,800 My marriage. 1020 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,860 My marriage. 1021 00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:49,120 My finances. 1022 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,140 Finances. 1023 00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:51,080 My church. 1024 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,920 My church. 1025 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,960 I ministry. 1026 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,760 Ministry. 1027 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,720 Or anything else. 1028 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,600 Or anything else. 1029 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,320 I judge them with holy fire. 1030 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,020 I judge them with holy fire. 1031 00:41:59,020 --> 00:42:00,560 Drive them out of hiding. 1032 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,000 Drive them out of hiding. 1033 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,160 Take them up as Jesus told me to. 1034 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,920 Take them up as Jesus told me to. 1035 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840 And throw them into the fiery abyss. 1036 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,200 And throw them into the fiery abyss. 1037 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,280 In the name of Jesus. 1038 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,920 In the name of Jesus. 1039 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,840 Thank you, Lord. 1040 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,720 Amen. 1041 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:16,040 Thank you, Lord. 1042 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,320 Hallelujah. 1043 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,840 Hallelujah. 1044 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,520 Katie, would you pray a blessing over the people 1045 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,840 that have been watching, too? 1046 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,120 Yeah, now I fill you with fire. 1047 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,920 I fill you with fire right now in the name of Jesus. 1048 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,200 And I decree, as you sit in the presence of the Lord 1049 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,240 and you take partake of his communion, 1050 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,240 that any venom that the serpent put in you 1051 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,520 to cause diabetes or inflammation or gout 1052 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,000 or arthritis or cancer will have to drain out of your body. 1053 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,960 In the name of Jesus, all of those diseases are gone. 1054 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,960 And I command that your spine would regenerate, 1055 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,640 as I decree, those serpents are coming off your spine, 1056 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,400 off your bones, off your joints. 1057 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,080 Right now, I loose you from that attack by grace. 1058 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,160 I loose you by the power of God, by the fire of God, 1059 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,440 by the blood of Jesus. 1060 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000 And I decree, regeneration in all of your bone structure 1061 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,840 and your joints and your cartilage 1062 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,040 and in every part of you, in the name of Jesus now. 1063 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,200 Thank you, Lord God. 1064 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,360 Amen, amen. 1065 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,320 Katie, Susan, thank you so much for taking the time. 1066 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,600 I know I could talk to you for a lot longer, 1067 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,120 and we might have to set up another opportunity for that. 1068 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,440 But we at Charisma are so excited to partner with you 1069 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200 for this book, The Serpent and the Soul, 1070 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,720 Deliverance from the Leviathan, Python, 1071 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,400 and Other Strangling Spirits. 1072 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,360 And you've got to get a copy of this book for yourself 1073 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,080 so that you can have this battle plan. 1074 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080 Katie, thank you so much for joining us today. 1075 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,920 Really appreciate it. 1076 00:43:34,920 --> 00:44:01,520 John, appreciate you.