I felt this something crawling across my bed and it was making, I woke up and I seen imprints
coming towards me and well ended up jumping on me and it lifted me up out of my bed about,
I don't know, maybe a foot in the air and it was trying to just get into me.
I'd love to hear your story of how God has brought you to where you are today. I mean, you
told me a little bit before we hit record that God brought you through deliverance and now
you're grateful for that because you're able to teach from experience and so I'm just going to
let you tell your story and I'm going to ask some questions in the process. So yeah, just tell us
how God has brought you to where you are. So I had actually, since I was younger, about six or seven
been seeing spirits and I wasn't sure how to go about telling my family that and when I told them,
of course, they just kind of shoved it off as, oh, you're just seeing things, you know, this and that.
My family was, they go to Baptist and Pentecostal churches so I was raised up in there, you know,
somewhat but- They went to Baptist and Pentecostal churches? Those are two very different-
I've had family go to Baptist and some family go to Pentecostal and I just went to both but as a kid,
you know, you don't really know what they're talking about. Like you're more there to have
fun with your friends and just, you know, kind of fellowship or whatnot. So the older that I got,
I kind of strayed away, especially in my teenage years because I was that wild child and just got
really into the streets, got around some people that were, you know, in the streets and my life just
went sideways. It went kind of wild. So I started studying new age, different things that I wasn't
supposed to be dilly-dallying in and I knew that but at the same time, you know, it's just your
environment that you're in and as I got older, one of my best friends had been murdered and at that
time, he, it was a huge political thing and if I really go into detail, you'd understand,
but it really put a toll on me, you know. So I started going downhill. I started having really
bad anxiety, depression. I lost a lot of weight. I had drinking issues and looking back on it now,
you know, it's actually a generational thing because I have family that are alcoholics and
I just felt at a point that when I started seeing spirits again, it really startled me because I
hadn't seen them since I was younger. So they really went into my face and what caused you to
stop seeing them? I'm not sure to be honest with you. It was like a very long period. I mean, I
could still like feel things or sense stuff, but I didn't see them like with my own eyes, you know,
And then you started seeing them again. Yes. And then once I got into that really bad place that I
was in, it was like, I was looking at them like I am looking at you. Oh, wow. So it was very visual.
I would see dead people walking around. I really started thinking to myself, what the heck is this?
Am I a psychic? Am I a medium? You know, and that's when I really started really diving into that
type of stuff. But one incident that occurred that really jolted me was I was asleep in my bed one
night and I felt this something crawling across my bed. And it was making I woke up and I seen
imprints coming towards me will ended up jumping on me. And it lifted me up out of my bed about,
I don't know, maybe a foot in the air. And it was trying to just get into me. And all I could think
about was what my grandmother had told me about pleading the blood of Jesus. And I just started
pleading the blood of Jesus three, four times and it dropped me and I actually bounced off my bed,
hit the floor and I went running out of there. I just grabbed my purse and ran and I had some
Haitian friends that, you know, used to talk to me about spiritual stuff all the time because in
Haiti, a lot of that stuff goes on. So I called them and they directed me to a pastor who was
into a pastor that they knew and he came. He prayed over me. I got saved that day.
Literally, like it was the most extreme experience I've ever experienced when it came to,
well, one of the most extreme when it comes to demons and, you know, crawling across your bed
or trying to enter you. And it just really jolted me and said, you know, wake up because,
you know, God is real. The spiritual realm is real. I've been I was avoiding it for a long time.
I knew I could see things. I know I could sense things, but just because I was avoiding it because
of all that pain and trauma I was going through. So after that, they came, anointed my house and
just prayed over me and prophesied over me and told me that I would eventually be in the deliverance
ministry and just showed me how to read scripture, you know, kind of just start from baby steps,
you know, towards a real relationship with Christ again. And I did that. And as I was doing it,
I was able to have encounters with the Holy Spirit, with angels, with people getting healed,
delivered. I didn't even know what I was doing. Just started praying, just started, you know,
going by what the Holy Spirit was telling me to do and not even knowing, you know, just knowing
that this is what God has me doing and I'm going to continue to keep walking in it no matter what
my walk is. Right. So do you basically just had like, I love how you said you had baby steps in
this. And so because you're doing baby steps, you just believed what the word said. And so you had
that faith to operate because this is what the word says, I can do this. And you were seeing these
things happen. You didn't rationalize your way into things not happening. You were actually seeing it
happen because you had that faith. I want to talk about some of the encounters that you've had,
because you said that you've, you've seen angels, you've had encounters. Tell me about some of these
things and what it has, how it's steered your life. Well, I will tell you one particular time
when this was right when I was going through the pastors praying over me and transitioning my
lifestyle. And I was in my room, it was a small apartment about, I think I had two bedrooms, it
was me and my son. And I had fell asleep was a deep sleep because I hadn't been sleeping at all
because these demons would mess with me. Whenever I would sleep, like in my dreams, they would even
touch me like they would pull my sheets off my bed, they would do all kinds of things. So I
wasn't having sleep at all. And I was actually scared to go to sleep because I didn't want to
go through whatever it was that they were going to do. And this particular night I fell asleep and I
heard my door creak open. And it really scared me. And I looked up and it was a really bright, white,
light, like super bright. And it pushed the door open. And at that moment, I wasn't scared. It was
almost like a very peaceful feeling. And it was an angel and it started coming towards me. And
people always ask me, was it a man? Was it a woman? I felt like it was a woman, but I couldn't really
see because it was so bright. So you could see a silhouette of it. But you could not determine
if it really was a woman or a man. But however, I did feel like it was a woman. She sat at the
bottom of my bed and she said, come here, my child. The Lord sent me to you so that you could get
sleep. And I did. I went over to her and I put my head on her lap and I just remember her stroking
my head. And I remember God's audible voice. This is the first time I have ever heard him. And he
said, my child, I have big plans for you. Get rest. And I fell asleep and I literally slept,
I believe it was 14 hours and I woke up and I felt so rejuvenated. I felt so refreshed, so renewed.
And I just remember crying, you know, and I was just crying and crying and crying. I'm almost
getting emotional thinking about it because it was so real. And I knew at that moment that God had a
plan for me. So from that moment on, I started reading scripture, I started getting really deep
into it and understanding what my role was as far as deliverance goes and praying over people for
healing. Because for a long time, I was very focused on healing. I loved praying for people.
When people would come through the door, God would show me they had cancer or they had this or they
had that. And I would just say, I know this is very awkward, but can I pray for you? And there's been
many people that, you know, once we start praying and stuff, the Holy Spirit just moves and heals
them right there. Wow. So you've, you've definitely been on a journey with deliverance. And so from
the first time that you started doing this until now, what would you say is the biggest change or
the biggest growth, I guess, in yourself in this process? The biggest growth I would have to say
is my compassion. And I'm a very cutthroat person. I'm very black and white. I don't do gray in
between. So when I speak to people, sometimes it'll come off like I'm being rude, you know,
and I'm not being rude. I'm just being very straightforward because I don't want to sugarcoat.
I don't want to, you know, to go through these storylines with you. And then, you know, you're,
you're still crying and you're still going through all these things. I just like to be like direct.
So I've had to really find a place within myself to change the way that I speak to people and that I
come with them more with compassion instead of just being very, very direct. So I would say that
was one of my huge weaknesses that I had. And so it's kind of a blessing and a curse because,
you know, some people you do need to be direct with and there's some people that you need to
have that compassion for. And you need to know, you need to have the discernment for which one
to do which with. And that's something that comes from experience. And you've now surrounded
yourself with people that you're one of the hub leaders for Pastor Greg Locke, who we love here
at Charisma. Just briefly, could you tell us about about that? Yes. So again, I went to work at a
deliverance conference in Corpus Christi. It was the Warriors, was it the Warriors of Deliverance?
I think that's what it's called. But it had Marcus Rogers, Daniel Adams, John Ramirez, Greg Locke,
David Diga Hernandez. It had a whole bunch of people on the panel. And I told my husband,
I said, you know what, I'm going, I'm going, like, I'm going to go work it. So I called and
asked Mr. Paul Garza if I could work it. And he said, yes. So I went there. And that was really
the first time I met Greg Locke. And I have a pastor friend here in Pensacola, Florida,
his name is Butch Callahan with Marcus Point Church Baptist Church. And I'm, he had told me
that Greg used to learn underneath them. And he, Greg was actually friends with his son. So he had
told me that information before I had went to the conference. So it was something kind of like,
you know, a starter point where I could talk to Greg in the back and just say, hey, you know,
I know Butch Callahan, do you know him? You know, that kind of thing. So we ended up striking up a
conversation and it went really well. And when I left, I really went home, I prayed about everything.
I said, you know what, I want to go visit his church. So I went up to Tennessee to his church
and I asked them if I could work on deliverance conference up there. The girl said, yeah. So I
came up there. By the time I got there, they had enough people to work it. So she's just like,
kind of stay around if something happens where you can have help out, just help out. So that's what I
did. And in the process of all of that, I really felt on my heart when the hub leader got up to
speak about the hub groups and, you know, having different places all over the nation, you know,
just to have Greg lock in your living room, to be able to share, you know, that fellowship time with
somebody and let him pastor. And then we could do baptisms, deliverance, healing sessions, whatever
we needed to do at our own home and grow and help grow the deliverance ministry really touched me
because I was like, okay, maybe this is where I need to be because I love his fiery spirit.
I love everything about him. He's, he's a lot like me, you know, so I was like, let me just do this.
So that's how I got a part of the hub leadership and with them and stuff. So I enjoy it. I love it.
It's something that it's just kind of, everything's aligning perfectly. If you know what I mean,
if you know what I mean, cause I already have my youth group, so youth group hub leadership the same night. It's, it's fun.