1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,940 Our identity is under attack as men and as women and God has given us our identity 2 00:00:06,940 --> 00:00:15,080 So that is so important to hold on to our divinely inspired true identity and with me today is Lisa Brevere to talk about 3 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:17,400 the fight for female 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,880 Reclaiming our divine identity and I am so excited to have you here Lisa. I've 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:32,040 I've read of some I've seen some other interviews that you've done and what we're talking about today is so important because in our culture 6 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,520 The fight for female is real 7 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:39,740 Now, I mean there is an unmaking of the image of God 8 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:44,240 the enemy does not want the image of God to be 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:51,880 Clear and strong in our earth right now and it is it is more than a gender ideology. It is a 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,880 attack of a dragon 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:01,380 It is a I hate those created in the image of God spiritual attack where I've been again 12 00:01:01,380 --> 00:01:08,280 I think we don't understand it the enemy's goal is to attack the very formation of 13 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,440 the generations 14 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Hoping that they will never trust God with their transformation hoping that they'll say I I God was random 15 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,540 He was not intentional when he wove me in my mother's womb. I cannot trust him to 16 00:01:23,060 --> 00:01:27,720 Transform me. I cannot believe that he will meet my needs or be that high priest for me 17 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:33,800 Yeah, and if we can attack the identity of who we are as people 18 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:40,080 as man and woman but really as sons and daughters of God and if we 19 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:47,880 Disconnect who people are in relation to the father in relation to into relation to Jesus and know that if we don't know that 20 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Our value comes from him then there's no value amongst each other and therefore we can rip each other down tear each other down 21 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,720 And that's in my opinion. That's where racism sexism everything comes from 22 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Because we don't see value in other people because we don't believe that God has put value in people where did this 23 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,360 Where did this cultural mess up really start? How many understand that? 24 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Well, I mean I believe the cultural mess up started in the garden 25 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:22,980 I mean when when we began to see this division and this questioning of divine purpose and divine identity 26 00:02:22,980 --> 00:02:30,400 It's worked its way all the way out and I sometimes see I sometimes thinks the devil believes the Bible more than Christians 27 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Do he knows that houses divided fall kingdoms divided fall? 28 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,400 So he's like I'm gonna divide male and female I'm gonna divide black and white 29 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,760 I'm gonna divide right, you know all the races whether it's Asian whether it's Spanish, whatever it is 30 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,860 I'm gonna divide the old from the young. I'm going to divide the Christians from the Jews. I'm going to work 31 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:58,360 division into every single area of life and when I see this binary 32 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:05,060 Constant and when I say binary binary is not wrong. It's not wrong to have up and down. I'm saying divisive 33 00:03:05,060 --> 00:03:06,540 using 34 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:08,540 Binary issues to be divisive 35 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:12,780 then what happens is we begin to collapse in ourselves and 36 00:03:13,140 --> 00:03:17,460 And it's it's it's he doesn't need a new strategy. It's always worked 37 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:23,700 He always questions the goodness of God. He always wants us to grasp at 38 00:03:24,260 --> 00:03:31,780 Being our own God to make remake ourselves in our own image. And so this is this is all woven and 39 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:34,220 consistent and 40 00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:42,400 You know just to be expected and yet we know that there is a increase in the demonic and and I shall we say 41 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:50,180 You know Satan is operating full strength. He's not getting stronger and I still believe that but what I what I did not factor in is 42 00:03:50,340 --> 00:03:53,380 That our nation has come into agreement 43 00:03:54,260 --> 00:03:59,140 With darkness we have invited things into our nation with all of our division 44 00:03:59,140 --> 00:04:05,500 With all of our pride with all of our greed with all of our sin with all of the abortion we have invited 45 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:08,420 the the enemies 46 00:04:09,460 --> 00:04:11,460 Strongholds into our nation and 47 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:16,780 And it's so apparent with what is going on right now in our culture 48 00:04:16,780 --> 00:04:21,660 There are so many things that you're like that doesn't make any sense. Well, it will never make sense when it's demonic 49 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:22,780 Yeah 50 00:04:22,780 --> 00:04:24,900 now you just mentioned about the garden and 51 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:32,980 I heard you talk in another interview about how you've you've been in at churches where pastors have said 52 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:37,020 that it all started when the woman took the took the 53 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:39,700 fruit and sinned and 54 00:04:39,860 --> 00:04:44,740 So women shouldn't speak up or anything like that. And so it's just like that's kind of 55 00:04:45,260 --> 00:04:51,800 Wild that because Eve was the one that actually plucked the fruit that he's making that claim 56 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,500 I mean the Bible says that Adam was there with her which is for distinction 57 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:59,500 a lot of people forget and they took part in that together and 58 00:04:59,860 --> 00:05:05,140 We can we can talk about that. But let's just talk specifically about the attack on women 59 00:05:05,660 --> 00:05:09,620 Because there was this gender. There was this women's liberation movement 60 00:05:10,140 --> 00:05:12,140 I want to talk to you about that 61 00:05:12,340 --> 00:05:18,140 But yeah right now we're seeing men going into women's sports men taking the place of women 62 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:22,540 So it seems women being okay with it and women being okay with it 63 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:26,420 It seems very antithetical to the original what we thought was the original goal 64 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:30,300 Can we explain about this because you've done some research into that. Yeah, so 65 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:32,700 Yes, I have to be honest with you 66 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:39,180 I guess I always thought feminism started out good and that just kind of went sideways in the more recent decades 67 00:05:39,540 --> 00:05:43,500 But that's not true. It has been sideways since the very beginning 68 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:50,100 I did not know that the mother of feminist thought was a woman named Mary Wolzencraft and Mary Wolzencraft 69 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:52,900 died in childbirth 70 00:05:52,940 --> 00:05:58,980 With her daughter Mary Shelley and Mary Shelley and Percy Shelley were kind of the ones that brought some of this 71 00:05:59,180 --> 00:06:02,060 Mindset forward her mother had been part of the French Revolution 72 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:10,740 They were the you know, they believed that the serpent was the wise counselor that God was prohibitive that marriage was wrong that marriage was 73 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:14,500 something that no man or no woman should be shackled to 74 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:16,820 Percy Shelley was 75 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:20,020 Obsessed with the occult. I've even read I 76 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:23,180 Didn't include in my book because I haven't been able to 77 00:06:24,220 --> 00:06:26,340 totally validate it but our early 78 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:32,480 Liberation mother is Susan B. Anthony that they did seances. They had spirit tables 79 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,940 They you know like all this kind of different stuff now 80 00:06:36,860 --> 00:06:38,860 When I say all of that 81 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:45,620 We as women achieved equal vote to equal rights equal pay for equal work 82 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:49,940 long before the American feminist 83 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:58,540 Wave as we would know it got together and said and and again this was shocking to me when twelve women twelve women get together 84 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:05,860 Greenwich Village in the late 60s and they say why are we here today? And they said to make a cultural revolution 85 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:13,680 How do we do? How do we make this revolution by destroying the American family now just right there you would think any 86 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:20,180 Female organization would want to add value and add layers of protection to the American family 87 00:07:20,180 --> 00:07:21,580 But that was their goal 88 00:07:21,580 --> 00:07:26,100 They said we're going to destroy the American family and then they said how do we destroy the American family? 89 00:07:26,220 --> 00:07:30,180 well by destroying the American patriarch and 90 00:07:30,180 --> 00:07:36,300 You know what is so crazy John when I started writing my book the fight for a female I had looked up the definition of 91 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:40,940 Patriarch at the beginning by the time I was done writing the book. They had changed they had 92 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:44,420 Updated the definition of the word patriarch and Miriam 93 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:51,860 Weir's dictionary it went from a man worthy of honor and respect to the older oldest person in a tribe 94 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:55,900 And so and then it had a negative, you know, like use it in a sentence 95 00:07:56,420 --> 00:07:59,340 and patriarchy white patriarchy and 96 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:03,300 And so, you know, I'm looking at this and then they said take away his power 97 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:08,260 We're gonna take away the power of the American patriarch. We're destroying and Larry 98 00:08:08,260 --> 00:08:10,860 how do we take away his power by destroying monogamy and 99 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:17,260 I was what in the world and they said how do we destroy monogamy and they said by promoting 100 00:08:18,220 --> 00:08:19,260 promiscuity 101 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:20,420 prostitution eroticism 102 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:26,360 Which would be pornography and homosexuality and then we went on to talk about how they were going to set up now 103 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:33,040 National Organization of Women and how this revolution needed to infiltrate every single area 104 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,000 And they took it all the way down to the library system and I'm sure you've seen 105 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,680 What happens when they pull the children's? 106 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Pornographic books out read them out loud 107 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,900 They get kicked out of school board meetings for reading graphic porn 108 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:53,400 But it's okay for it to remain in the library for the children and and I have heard this over and over and over again 109 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,560 If I happen to post something people say well, where are the feminists? 110 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Where are the feminists? Why aren't they saying anything? Well, it's been their agenda 111 00:09:02,740 --> 00:09:09,280 So you have a few people that are courageous like a JK Rollins and she'll say something but the idea of 112 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:17,660 Womanhood is being assailed by the enemy. It is being sexualized by the culture and at the same time as you mentioned earlier 113 00:09:17,660 --> 00:09:25,500 They're silenced in the church and so we have these guardrails of silenced and sexualized and it creates a very narrow pathway 114 00:09:25,740 --> 00:09:32,620 For women to walk on how they can function how they can find their voice how they can find their value 115 00:09:32,620 --> 00:09:38,320 And so we have you know, the woman's body is is actually just a it's a costume 116 00:09:38,580 --> 00:09:44,080 You know drag queens and it's it's exaggerated or it's or if you're okay 117 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,860 Like that's one extreme than the other extreme is you're never pretty enough. You're never thin enough 118 00:09:47,860 --> 00:09:52,620 You're never you're never tall enough. You're never whatever whatever you are is never enough 119 00:09:52,620 --> 00:10:01,140 and so there's there's the diminishing of the feminine form and the sexualizing of the feminine forms, so the authentic feminine versus the 120 00:10:02,180 --> 00:10:04,700 exaggerated I don't even want to say feminine 121 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:08,060 distorted character the caricature of 122 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:09,980 absolutely 123 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:14,980 so so we have that going on and you know women are 124 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:21,380 They can be more compliant and and so I've heard a lot of people say well, this is women just being compliant 125 00:10:21,380 --> 00:10:24,580 I I feel like it's demonic. I'm sorry. I feel like it is 126 00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:28,100 women either have lost their voice and 127 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:35,860 Or they have misused their voice and and so when we have lost our voice or misused our voice 128 00:10:35,860 --> 00:10:42,600 It's hard to recover a position of strength and and so we for me. I'm like, how 129 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:46,180 Do we remember our divine origin? 130 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:53,940 Because woman was not an she was not an afterthought her creation wasn't like oh maybe gosh Adam's lonely 131 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:58,980 No, she was essential. She was necessary. And so there was a divine 132 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:01,700 weaving of woman and 133 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:08,100 We you know, we know what happened in the garden the fall did not happen till Adam ate 134 00:11:08,980 --> 00:11:13,980 And and you know, it's like people people that say oh the woman she just caused all these problems 135 00:11:14,540 --> 00:11:20,540 If Adam had said no it is written, you know, God said not to eat it 136 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:24,000 He didn't say anything about not touching it. She wasn't here. She doesn't know 137 00:11:24,540 --> 00:11:30,980 You know, he he was the one that was supposed to guard and steward and so he's the one that failed and and he 138 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:34,180 He took the temptation to be like God apart from God 139 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:40,260 Because we know that that's true because when you go to the New Testament, it doesn't say through one woman sin 140 00:11:40,260 --> 00:11:45,180 It says to one man sin and one man's obedience. So 141 00:11:45,820 --> 00:11:51,820 Somehow and I don't know, you know, it's interesting. I was talking to some other leaders around this idea 142 00:11:51,820 --> 00:11:55,300 It almost feels like when you're dealing with 143 00:11:55,300 --> 00:12:00,340 Men they were completely saved and redeemed but when it comes to women 144 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:04,940 They have to they're like they have to work it out. They have to work it out through childbearing 145 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:07,940 They have to work out through head coverings. I have to work it out through, you know 146 00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:13,380 Being constantly quiet in the church or whatever. It's it's like there's a layer layer layer 147 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:16,460 and I believe all those religious layers are 148 00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:18,420 also 149 00:12:18,420 --> 00:12:20,420 the enemy's ploy to 150 00:12:20,420 --> 00:12:24,820 Subdue and silence the woman's voice because God was the one 151 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:31,140 Who said the woman must come out and have a voice and God would not have given her a voice if he meant for her 152 00:12:31,140 --> 00:12:34,420 To remain quiet. Yeah. Well even at the very beginning when 153 00:12:35,060 --> 00:12:42,340 jesus 315 when when God says to the to the woman and this actually the to the serpent at that point 154 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:47,220 That your seat will be at MC with her seat and but you know, it's like 155 00:12:47,220 --> 00:12:49,860 God has had major purpose for women 156 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:55,300 in his plan since the very beginning and I personally believe that 157 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:58,820 Adam wouldn't have known what it meant to be alone 158 00:12:59,380 --> 00:13:06,020 Unless there was a little bit of time between you know, the between whenever eve came whenever god brought eve to him 159 00:13:06,580 --> 00:13:10,260 Out of his side. So, you know, it's not good for him to be alone 160 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:13,460 Therefore he needed to be alone for a little bit just to see 161 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:19,540 Yeah, what in the naming process? I mean time was not measured there the way we understand time 162 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:22,740 You know, there's uh, most hebrew scholars say the fall created time 163 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:29,140 That there was no time before the fall and god created time to create a line segment 164 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:34,100 You know because here's our god. I mean, he's so amazing isaiah says he finishes something then begins it 165 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:39,060 So god taught us before we fell so there was eternity past eternity future 166 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:45,460 And he said i'm going to end something that i'm going to begin it and we're living in that time segment that that line segment 167 00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:52,020 Of time where the redemptive purpose of god is being played out and it needs to be played out for male and female 168 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:55,460 There are battles for the women to fight and there's battles for the men to fight 169 00:13:55,780 --> 00:14:00,900 But for too long the women have been fighting the men and the men have been fighting the women 170 00:14:01,220 --> 00:14:05,780 Instead of doing what jesus modeled for all of us is to say to the serpent it is written 171 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:10,900 It is written and and again, you know, I I love that you brought up genesis and the serpent and enmity 172 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:17,380 I was just this weekend at a church and and I know it's intimidating when somebody asks something from the stage 173 00:14:18,180 --> 00:14:22,900 But I said to them when god put enmity between the woman and the serpent 174 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:26,260 Whose side did god put the woman on? 175 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:31,620 And they they just all looked at me. I said, okay, i'm i'm going to help you. There's two sides 176 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:37,620 There's evil that would be the serpent and there's good and that's only god 177 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:41,780 So whose side did god say the woman was partnering with? 178 00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:44,100 And we know 179 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:45,300 It was 180 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:51,620 God that the seed jesus came through a woman independent of a man a man was not involved in that 181 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:57,860 The holy spirit overshadowed her it was her chromosome structure only not 48 but 24 182 00:14:57,860 --> 00:15:04,500 Is what they're finding when they're looking into this the idea of the blood that they feel like is representation of jesus 183 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:09,620 And so like god is saying hey women have always been part of my redemptive plan 184 00:15:10,180 --> 00:15:14,580 And the enemy is like I hate them. So now we have not just a woman 185 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:21,720 Not just mary not just israel. We have the church the church and we see in revelation 1217 186 00:15:22,340 --> 00:15:24,820 And then the dragon was the serpent 187 00:15:24,820 --> 00:15:32,760 117 and then the dragon was enraged or furious with the woman and we make war against her children 188 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:37,720 And this is what we're going on right now. You know, I had this incredible opportunity 189 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:41,300 uh, I think it's about a year and a half ago, I was speaking at a church and 190 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,340 Afterwards the matriarch of the church was there 191 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:49,540 She's she's an older woman and she pulled me aside and she said did you ever get a chance to meet derrick prince? 192 00:15:49,940 --> 00:15:54,020 And I said, you know, I did not familiar with him, but I never met him and she said well 193 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:57,540 We hosted him and my husband I drove him back to the hotel 194 00:15:57,940 --> 00:16:02,180 And when it was time for him to get out we turned around and looked and he was sitting in the back weeping 195 00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:05,620 And we said brother prince what what's going on? 196 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:09,140 And he said I see an attack coming against the women 197 00:16:09,700 --> 00:16:13,460 And if the enemy can get the women he will get the children 198 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:16,420 And I mean, this is what is going on 199 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:22,740 Women women are the last line of defense. The enemy has done an exceptional job of 200 00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:24,740 emasculating the men 201 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,920 Of telling the women you don't need men 202 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,840 Feminists what the feminist thought was if you want to be a powerful woman africa man behave sexually like a man go out and work 203 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,280 Full-time you don't how dare you stay home with your children 204 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Oh my goodness, go out there and work for somebody else put your kids in daycare. You know, I mean, it's just this mindset 205 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:49,560 That is so shocking when you actually take it out spread it on the table and look at it for what it is 206 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,120 And yes, were there oppressive men? Yes 207 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,760 The other is there men that are toxic? Yes, but so are women there are toxic women 208 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:05,480 There are toxic men, but masculinity and femininity in and of themselves are not toxic. They're an expression of the image of god 209 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:10,760 Absolutely. Yeah, there's so many different things that you've brought up there that we could go a couple different ways 210 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,200 I want to talk about your dream that god gave you about the dragons. We'll talk about that in just a moment 211 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,680 I want to ask about I want to ask a little bit deeper because you said 212 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,480 earlier on that the early 213 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Women's liberation movement the feminist push 214 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,920 There was a cult practices and seances and things like that 215 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:38,360 And you have this revelation about a particular spell that people are unwilling or unknowingly 216 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,840 Saying whenever they're saying that the future is female help us understand the revelation that you have about this 217 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Yeah, so I you know, I live in franklin tennessee, which is a christian bubble 218 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,160 And I went to a coffee shop wearing a t-shirt that said the future is male and female 219 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,800 And I had guys like thank you. Thank you for including us in the future. I'm like, you're welcome 220 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:02,760 I had women saying I need the t-shirt. I'm like you're right. So I thought you know, everybody's happy about this 221 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 So I did a selfie 222 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,360 In my car with the t-shirt that said the future is male and female and I wrote underneath that 223 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,560 The future is male and female because without male and female there is no future 224 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,440 That's basically your parents. It's not even deep and um 225 00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:21,400 922 comments later pp 226 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,120 Furious with me 227 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:27,020 You are cosigning with patriarchy 228 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:34,040 It's always been the men's turn. It's our turn now. Jesus would never agree with the oppression of women 229 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,640 You are agreeing with the oppression of women. This is coding like all lives matter 230 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:44,840 Uh, this is a demon of hate. This is transphobe. This is anti-lgtbq. I mean everything everything 231 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Then they all started fighting with each other 232 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,280 and 233 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,280 John this is something i've learned 234 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,440 Whenever you have this 235 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,920 Much of an overcharged reaction on something 236 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,360 There is something darker behind it. So I just I came home 237 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:05,560 And I just typed into my laptop. What is the origin of the quote? The future is female because the addition had male 238 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,800 So I was like, what is the origin and a washington post article came up? 239 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,640 And it was talking about the origin of the quote the future is female and it was 240 00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:19,000 Originated with a group called labras. You think what's labras? 241 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:26,280 well, the labras is a two-headed axe carried by amazons and roman and greek goddesses and 242 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,320 labras was a lesbian separatist group and the 243 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:36,780 Uh t-shirt that said the future is female was part of a presentation called what a well-dressed dyke would wear in 1975 244 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,240 And they were so excited 245 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:45,080 That hillary had brought the quote back to the forefront and her campaign because they said 246 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,360 The quote the future is female was a call to war an invocation and a spell to cast 247 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,160 And I was like what in the world but they didn't even stop there john 248 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,860 25 percent of the proceeds not profits proceeds go to planned parenthood 249 00:20:01,180 --> 00:20:07,740 So now we've got the doubles that it adds basically more than tithing to uh to that because our tithe comes before 250 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:15,340 Taxes and everything so they're doing that 25 before taxes before everything goes to that is ridiculous 251 00:20:15,740 --> 00:20:17,260 Human necrophiles 252 00:20:17,260 --> 00:20:19,100 They've got goddesses 253 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:23,420 They've got separating females from males when god says they're not good for man to be alone 254 00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:25,420 I mean, it's the antithesis 255 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:27,020 of 256 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:31,180 What god meant for male and female and so it was right after that 257 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:35,740 I'm you know, i'm speaking to you from my house and um right after that 258 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:39,740 One of my grandsons my grandson who turned 15 actually today 259 00:20:40,060 --> 00:20:43,420 He showed up at my front door and basically they come in my house to go to the pantry 260 00:20:43,420 --> 00:20:47,260 I think their mom says no snacks and they just come to my house. And so 261 00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:51,260 When I have this access to a 14 year old boy, I said hey 262 00:20:51,260 --> 00:20:54,780 What are your thoughts on the quote? The future is female 263 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:59,500 And he paused and he said then i'm unnecessary 264 00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:03,180 And I thought wow 265 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:05,500 Is that what we want to say to our sons? 266 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:10,940 Is that what we want to say to our fathers our brothers our co-workers our husbands? 267 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:15,020 Is this is this is this the message is this the divine? 268 00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:21,820 The divine identity that god gave to woman to say the men are unnecessary when god said the woman 269 00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:26,700 The addition of the woman takes everything and makes it so very very good 270 00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:33,020 And I get it that the you know, the angry progressive people are going to say well the men have acted like we're unnecessary 271 00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:37,500 So now we're going to act like they're unnecessary. Well, that's not godly. We don't slap back 272 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:40,620 We take back our divine origin 273 00:21:40,620 --> 00:21:46,380 And nobody can take away my divine identity and origin and when I say divine people get stressed out saying 274 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:50,860 You know, you're seeing feminine female divine. No, i'm saying that my divine 275 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,860 Weaving god wove me on purpose to be a female with divine intention 276 00:21:57,260 --> 00:22:03,100 He was like this is my daughter for this time period and it wasn't random 277 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:10,380 It was intentional and so what we've got is we've got this male and female being pitted against one another 278 00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:14,860 I mean even even going back to what we were talking earlier about them saying 279 00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:20,140 How do we destroy the american family destroy the american patriot? How do we destroy him take away his power? 280 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:25,100 So somehow they knew that male and female together equaled a power union 281 00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:29,180 But so they created a power struggle. They're like we're going to have to divide 282 00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:35,500 What god said i'm going to unite and so everything that we're seeing right now 283 00:22:35,900 --> 00:22:38,620 We're looking at at it in the culture as a face value 284 00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:44,540 But we need to look behind and understand there is a dragon in the shadows. There is a demonic 285 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:51,260 Agenda that is dividing male and female and you know, i've had this incredible privilege to speak 286 00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:56,220 In I spoke at a cultural summit earlier this year where there were both men and female 287 00:22:56,220 --> 00:23:02,540 President and I literally had the men stand up john and I said 288 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:07,980 I break the words of toxic masculinity off of you 289 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:10,860 We need you 290 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:16,060 To be the men that god created you to be and I am sorry that we we as women 291 00:23:16,540 --> 00:23:18,540 Tried to tell you how you had to behave as men 292 00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:24,620 And so and then last week I had the privilege of being at a chapel at or you and 293 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:28,320 And afterwards so many beautiful young men saying 294 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:31,360 We can't remember what it is 295 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,720 To be a man 296 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,400 To be to be masculine and and not be mocked for it 297 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,120 And and and so here's the thing god wants to restore male and female 298 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,680 to their divine 299 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Mandate that when god said i'm going to give you the power to multiply and we've got to stop using our power to divide 300 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:58,640 Decrease diminish, you know if if men have used their power to oppress women 301 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,640 They need to repent of that but women if they've used their power to manipulate men 302 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:09,680 they need to repent of that and we need to forgive and we need to move forward in in strength and truth and um, 303 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,480 I've started this book with a dream, but I ended it with a do 304 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,260 Because if we cannot have practical applications 305 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:24,020 to spiritual principles, we're going to be in trouble and as much as I 306 00:24:24,980 --> 00:24:32,180 I love to think that we could take to the streets and and switch everything what I find best is we fight by flourishing 307 00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:39,060 Amen. Amen. Well, you mentioned about this dream and so I want to I want to hear you tell his dream again 308 00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:43,380 Um, and really what inspired you to write this this book? 309 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:51,300 Yeah, so first of all, I um, I had the dream in 2016 which is crazy looking back now 310 00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:54,020 Um, I was speaking at a women's event 311 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:58,580 I was so excited to be alone in a king-size bed where I could turn down the temperature to 312 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:04,020 To 65 because I was going through menopause. I was like, this is my dream. I'm like i'm so excited 313 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:09,220 I'm making this room freezing cold. I'm spreading out in the bed and I i'm a i'm a sound sleeper 314 00:25:09,220 --> 00:25:15,860 I sleep on my side. I don't move around and there's reasons why i'm saying all that and I I fall asleep 315 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:22,660 And in my dream, I find myself on the threshold of a green room and a green room of people like what's that? 316 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:25,200 It's a room of 317 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,740 Influencers speakers thought leaders, you know, and and it was it was a the room was packed 318 00:25:30,820 --> 00:25:35,780 It was filled with a lot of people. I remember thinking I know these people and they knew me 319 00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:39,860 But I don't remember any of them. I don't I I can't say oh I saw that person in the room 320 00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:41,940 I just knew that we had relationship 321 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:48,420 And when I leaned a little closer, I realized that all the women were holding something close to their chest on and I 322 00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:50,660 I was like, what are they what are they holding? 323 00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:54,980 And they were holding different rainbow colored or dual tone baby dragons 324 00:25:55,300 --> 00:26:00,100 So there were sapphire there were ruby there were the bright yellow the citron there was emerald green 325 00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:03,780 And all of these baby dragons were dressed up in children's clothing 326 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:09,780 Which is bizarre, but you know how people dress up their yorkies or the poodles, which i'm always like why anyway 327 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:16,180 So they they've dressed up these dragons and and I you know, I took it as them saying these are safe. These are pets 328 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:21,780 And so I came up to the first one and I said do you do you understand what you're holding? And she was like 329 00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:25,380 Yes, I said that's a dragon. That's a dragon and she was like 330 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:30,420 You know kind of looking over me like she doesn't understand to somebody else who was also holding a dragon 331 00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:36,500 And and she said these are different dragons. These are the wise kind dragons and I said, oh no 332 00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:41,060 No, no, no, there's no agreement between daughters and dragons 333 00:26:41,220 --> 00:26:44,660 So I went from woman to woman trying to make somebody listen to me 334 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:49,460 Somebody tried to get me to pet the dragon and I was like no i'm not petting your dragon because that would be 335 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,380 agreeing 336 00:26:51,380 --> 00:26:53,380 That's something very dangerous is safe 337 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:57,460 And in my dream I turned from the person that was trying to get me to pet the dragon 338 00:26:57,460 --> 00:27:02,420 And somebody thrust the dragon her dragon towards me and said here hold it and in my dream john 339 00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:09,620 I reached out grabbed the dragon by the neck and snapped its neck and I wake up and my arms are flying 340 00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:12,900 And i'm on my back and i'm like what just happened this dream 341 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:18,020 Was actually being acted out in my physical and so I typed the whole thing out 342 00:27:18,340 --> 00:27:23,620 I sent it off to some people that are supposed to be going with dream interpretations. They're like we we got nothing 343 00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:28,580 We we got nothing and I was like, okay, that was bizarre. But you know, there are dreams that you have 344 00:27:29,620 --> 00:27:31,620 That stay with you 345 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:36,580 And then there's dreams that you you know, like by noon you've forgotten them. Well, you can still see this one 346 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:38,740 and 347 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:40,740 You know, I I had written it out 348 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:42,000 then 349 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,620 2020 happens 350 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:47,540 I I see abigail schreyer's book on irreversible damage on me 351 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:48,660 What's going on? 352 00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:55,620 And then I start to see different things and I start to see the sexualization of women. I start to see the sexualization of children 353 00:27:55,780 --> 00:27:58,680 I don't know if you saw this this week. Good morning america 354 00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:01,440 I mean 355 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,500 horrified i'm horrified horrified horrified and um 356 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,580 It just this child, I mean adults clapping 357 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:15,860 For the sexualization of children and and people like well, that's a pat. No, it wasn't a pageant 358 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:22,500 It was a trans it was a child who has is a boy genetically being raised as a girl and being I mean 359 00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:25,220 I just was I 360 00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:30,580 Yeah, I when I started my book I was angry by the end of it I was heartbroken 361 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:32,500 and so 362 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:33,460 I've 363 00:28:33,460 --> 00:28:36,660 Started to see this and I thought oh my gosh. It's my dream 364 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,380 When I saw the women weren't using their voice 365 00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:43,140 When I had reposted just an athletic thing 366 00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:47,220 Um, it was it wasn't even a christian thing. It was a watch company that said 367 00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:51,540 Um, you know, I was telling this whole story about a dad training his daughter 368 00:28:51,780 --> 00:28:56,980 There's no woman alive that could ever beat you with running and then she comes down to the starting line 369 00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:02,020 She looks over and there's a guy and all of her life all of the training and all I wrote underneath 370 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:06,820 I reposted it and I said keep use your voice and keep your daughter's dreams alive 371 00:29:07,460 --> 00:29:11,380 And you cannot believe the christian backlash I got 372 00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:14,920 Trans women are women. How dare you say this blah blah blah 373 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Well, i'm not going to be like he saw 374 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,360 I'm not going to sell my birthright 375 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,360 I god 376 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Told adam whatever you name something it is 377 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,080 And he is the one who gave me the name woman and man doesn't get to take it back 378 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,080 He doesn't get to add a prefix to it 379 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000 And I don't get to add a prefix to you know a man 380 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 But here's the problem and this is what I think women do 381 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Um, and this is what I think women don't get 382 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,040 um 383 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Men are not afraid of the smaller weaker versions 384 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080 pretending to be them 385 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320 But women are at risk of men 386 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,160 in formerly 387 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,000 female spaces 388 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:03,000 And and this is how real this is because people think it's not real. I uh, I recently traveled home from a trip 389 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,840 I was actually I think I was in another country and I was waiting for john he was flying in and you know 390 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640 She was we were 45 minutes apart and I thought well, just i'll just wait 391 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,880 And then the whoever was picking us up could just pick us both up at once 392 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,100 So i'm waiting and I watch a man walk right into the women's restroom in nashville, tennessee 393 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200 And I don't know if it was because I hadn't slept all night. I don't know what it was 394 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,680 I followed him in there and I said, excuse me 395 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:35,720 This is the woman's restroom and he jumped a mile and he said oh, oh, I thought it was a baggage claim 396 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,680 He'd already walked past the sinks like so the the way it's configured is there sinks 397 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,800 And then you turn and there's stalls. He was turning the corner towards the stalls 398 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,400 And I said, oh did you did you think the bags were coming out of the toilet? 399 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,840 I said you need to come out of here right now my boys 400 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,800 I mean my boys were like mom you're not big and I said I felt big I felt big in that moment 401 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,320 I mean and people say, you know, well, you know, maybe he wouldn't have hurt me and he wasn't dressed as a woman 402 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Uh, maybe he wouldn't have hurt me maybe you know, whatever 403 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,160 I don't care about me. I care about my granddaughters and so at the end of the day 404 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Why I am writing? 405 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,080 is 406 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,080 There is a generation 407 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,400 That is being told 408 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,440 That their formation is a mistake 409 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,880 There is a generation that the enemy has divided their gender identity 410 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Which would be their soul from their frame their body. They are walking around 411 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Bodies divided he is he is he is saying you can't trust god 412 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,680 and and I and here's the here's the beautiful thing and I don't know if you saw this in the book, but 413 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,520 I had I had someone who was a younger christian. She said to me if if 414 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,560 Jesus was sitting here with you and I and my friend who believes she's born in the wrong body was sitting here 415 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,200 What would he say to her? 416 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760 And I'm like, oh my gosh 417 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840 And I said, well first he would say I love you 418 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640 Second he would say you're not a mistake 419 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,200 And I think we do a really good job saying those two things, but we have to take it a little further 420 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600 I said third he would say I understand and I could tell she kind of like 421 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,600 Why would jesus understand? Well, it's not because jesus was ever transgender 422 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,880 But if there was ever anybody that was ever uncomfortable in their human body, it would be jesus 423 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,640 And you think where do you get that from? Well philippians 2 424 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,760 Philippians 2 says that jesus 425 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Set aside his divine form 426 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,580 Emptied himself of his divine privileges 427 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,640 and took on 428 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,640 flesh that he became a 429 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Slave he became a servant he became us so we could become him and and if there was I mean, i've only been 430 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,200 A child of you know, a human child. I've never been 431 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,760 The son of god, you know, so i've never understood divine form divine identity. I mean, of course, I understand 432 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080 I'm a child of god. I have a divine identity that i'm growing into but my 433 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,320 form 434 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Is flesh 435 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000 And so we need to be able to say 436 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,560 That plus we have corinthians where it says that my life right now is just a seed 437 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Of who i'll actually be so with this longing for more and more and more 438 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,480 More money more whatever we we try to but the truth is our more is found in eternity 439 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,800 That when I go into the earth and die who I really am comes up in eternity 440 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Then we also need to put them with the heebus for that. We have a high priest 441 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,120 We have a high priest who? 442 00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:32,420 understands the frailty 443 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840 of the human body 444 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,520 And so we need to push an entire generation that has been lied to 445 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,200 Into the presence of god and when I read this whole 446 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,840 parable of the banquet 447 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,760 I feel like those are the people on the highways and byways. It's the internet highways and byways 448 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,240 And we need to compel them to come in 449 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,040 Yeah, absolutely and I love how you said that jesus 450 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:06,520 More than anybody would would understand what it's like to be in the different body or the wrong body because I mean god coming and being flesh 451 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,720 And dwelling among us. I mean that's the word behind flesh. I mean that's 452 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,440 He would understand better than anybody else 453 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,200 And he also brings restoration better than anybody else 454 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,000 and purpose and calling 455 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,080 With this book with this message, it's which is really powerful and very needed 456 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,680 What are some of those action steps that we can do because I like why you said, you know 457 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,400 It started with a dream, but it ends with things to do. What are some of these things that we can actually do? 458 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,960 Well, and this was the exciting and shocking thing for me. First of all 459 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,320 And i'm going to tell a little background talk about 460 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,840 um, and i'm going to tell a little background to to actually 461 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,200 Position what you can do because everybody's like I need to be a social justice lawyer 462 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,120 I need to start argue with people on social media. I need to start saying well 463 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,760 I had this incredible privilege to 464 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,060 interview a man who is an expert in totalitarianism 465 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:11,320 And he had written a book and he's a psychoanalyst and a professor in belgium 466 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:18,040 And then he's in belgium. He explained that totalitarianism had taken over his country 467 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,160 And so he watched this unfold and i'm listening to him and i'm like, okay, what do we do? 468 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,400 What do we do? I'm a mother hum. What do I do? 469 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:30,920 He said I said do we take to the streets and he said well first of all protests and violence 470 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,080 They validate totalitarianism where they think we've got to we've got to we got to control the situation 471 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,680 He said what you need to do is consistent 472 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,680 consistent courageous 473 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:49,000 Conversations and he's not even a christian. I'm just talking to him and as he's talking to me john 474 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,160 I thought that's how the book of acts they went from house to help 475 00:35:54,260 --> 00:35:57,320 Fighting with people on social media is not going to change it 476 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960 We have gotten so 477 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,200 bad at having 478 00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:05,500 Conversations so so we need to have consistent 479 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:08,340 courageous 480 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:13,320 Conversations I uh, I babysat my grandkids for eight days when their kids 481 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,840 I mean where their parents went to the uk john left john was like I i'm i'm capping out 482 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,840 I can only do one great childhood time 483 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,880 so 484 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,880 You know and it rained the entire time which I 485 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,000 I started to have so much sympathy for parents who are like screens screens because I really you don't do screens at g mama's 486 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,280 house and 487 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:36,360 I can't remember it was like day four my seven-year-old. She was seven at the time granddaughter looked at me and she said do you know? 488 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,360 that 489 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,400 uh 490 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,760 Sarah my neighborhood is now samuel. I was like no I didn't 491 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,480 And she said yeah, she's she's cut her hair and she's gonna go to new school now and be a boy 492 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,120 And I said, all right 493 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,760 I said well what if g mama put on a giraffe outfit that would that make me a giraffe? 494 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,760 And she's smarter than me and she said you're too short to be a giraffe 495 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:04,920 And I said well, I identify as a short giraffe and she's like that's stupid and they said you're right. So 496 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,240 Is she a boy because she cut her hair 497 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,440 And she said no I said why not? 498 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,080 If she looks like a boy, why isn't she a boy? And she said, you know, I said no, I don't tell me why 499 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Tell me and she goes 500 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,280 her bottom and and so, you know, I 501 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:21,800 I 502 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,160 Then my other granddaughter brought up the conversation. I said tell me what's happening 503 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,080 in this family 504 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,560 And I learned that the parents had just gotten divorced 505 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,320 And I I remembered my life in eighth grade 506 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,520 And this girl was younger. Um, but my life in eighth grade 507 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:43,800 My parents came and told me that they were divorcing. I remember I went from highest math highest english to low 508 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,600 Whisk I refused to do my homework. I refused to do, you know, turn in my assignments 509 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,320 I refused to participate in class. I sat there like this. I was so angry john 510 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,720 If somebody would have come to me and said, you know what? 511 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,000 You're also a late bloomer lisa. Perhaps you're really a boy 512 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,640 I would have said, you know what everything else in my life 513 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Is wrong. You're probably right 514 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:12,600 I'm probably a boy. I used to wear oshkosh by gosh overalls to hide the fact that I was scrawny and tiny 515 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000 And I was a tomboy 516 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,640 But see that was god's preparation for me to be a mother of four sons 517 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,800 But I could have said I'm not feminine enough. I'm not pretty enough. I'm not curvy enough 518 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,240 I'm not whatever 519 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,680 and yet 520 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,720 And yet god weaves each of us 521 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:39,400 uniquely and especially and in a season of going from girl to woman or boy to man you do not 522 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,880 Force somebody to make a decision 523 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,200 When they're in transition of growing up 524 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000 You know, and so there's this 525 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Sexualizing of our youth at the youngest age and so for me, this was a rescue 526 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,760 It was I'm going to give 527 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:03,720 Mom some conversation points. I signed books for like two hours this weekend and the women are like thank you for giving me words to say 528 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Thank you for actually giving me permission to talk 529 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:14,760 People follow courage and when nobody says anything or when there's just a nuance when all the christians are nuanced 530 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:21,240 There's no clarity and where there's no clarity people shut down. There's no conversation 531 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,780 We need to have clarity because a lack of clarity is unkind 532 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:33,000 And so we need to say the image of god is male and female. Yes. I understand there's intersex, but there's still only two genders 533 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:40,680 Even it's still it's still a mixing of just x and y and and those are very small percentages 534 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,960 But this is proving the whole spotted and speckled principle that what you put in front of people 535 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,160 Is what they actually what they behold is what they become 536 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:56,520 You know, okay, I i'm less than i'm this constant comparison if I can do that if I can become that if I change into that image 537 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,520 Then I will be loved. I will be safe. I will be you know, whatever whatever the 538 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:10,200 Unspoken need is that they're promising to fill and so for me I wanted every person to understand 539 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,960 You know, like don't be compliant with the distortion of language 540 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,200 Don't be afraid to use your voice in your neighborhood and and i'm not talking about 541 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,480 Organizing a protest i'm talking about just talking to people 542 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:29,880 Talking to people and then you know understanding that if what we talked about earlier about if the feminists were able to 543 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,420 deconstruct the family 544 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,720 Then our our goal would be to restore 545 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,880 So we can reverse engineer everything that the enemy has done 546 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,160 And then the other thing I love and this is this is this is something that I feel 547 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,880 I feel so passionate about 548 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,740 During the pandemic there was another epidemic that happened. It was an epidemic of cowardice 549 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:00,360 Where people started to placate and and shrink and say one thing and then if they got attacked they you know, they they 550 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,520 It just shut they lost their voice 551 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,280 and 552 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,160 One of the things I loved the most was 553 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,000 One of the things I loved the most about riley gaines and it's not something that other people highlight 554 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,480 But I want to highlight it wasn't so much that she's a cultural voice right now. It was that she wasn't 555 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,160 Wasn't 556 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,920 And then she was 557 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,800 And the truth is that we can be complicit and compliant one day 558 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,520 And the next day 559 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,360 We can recover our voice 560 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:41,160 That god's mercy that is new every single morning is the empowerment of courage and an outpouring of the holy spirit 561 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,640 is way further than 562 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,020 Speaking in tongues falling down whatever was shaking it is an outpouring 563 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,480 of courage 564 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:57,560 And authority and we don't ever talk about that, but it talks about when these unlearned fishermen 565 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:03,820 Spoke with authority with boldness and so we in the church we need to stop 566 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:07,420 Speaking things as though they were question marks 567 00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:13,260 and we need to put some periods and exclamation marks on our words and um, 568 00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:17,340 You know and even even in this time period like there used to be 569 00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:23,420 I went out to dinner with somebody who's very active in politics and she's very much about pro-child politics 570 00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:27,660 And she said lisa there was a time where you could be nuanced and say hey 571 00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:29,500 She said 572 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,500 We're not we're not in that time anymore 573 00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:35,340 It's very clear 574 00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:36,620 about 575 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:38,620 light and dark lies and truth 576 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,860 and and we 577 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:42,220 Christians 578 00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:46,700 We need to stand in the middle and declare truth, which means we will be shot at from both sides 579 00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:49,180 But it's it's 580 00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:52,380 When I say stand in the middle, i'm not saying compromise. I'm just saying 581 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:54,620 We've got extreme here extreme here 582 00:42:55,180 --> 00:43:00,220 You know, like i'm a big fan of conservative news, but they're not going to bring anybody to jesus 583 00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:05,580 So, you know i'm saying they're just gonna they're just gonna make me feel hopeless 584 00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:07,820 or angry 585 00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:11,420 So I have to be the one who can stand in the middle and say 586 00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:14,220 But jesus is the answer amen 587 00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,380 and not trump 588 00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:17,340 jesus 589 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:21,100 And then at the other side where you're talking about progressive and liberal 590 00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,100 Where I can say excuse me 591 00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:25,900 uh debauchery 592 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:27,900 Abortion those are 593 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:30,860 Caving into our basis level. That's not the answer 594 00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:32,700 um 595 00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:39,420 You know, and so we we have to we have to stand in the middle declare truth and I feel like scripture is very very clear 596 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,780 um about what god values and for me 597 00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:49,660 Image of god and sanctity of life are are no compromise compromise zone. Amen. Amen 598 00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:51,660 Amen. Amen 599 00:43:51,660 --> 00:43:57,100 Alisa, I really appreciate this conversation and I don't want to miss this opportunity to ask you to pray for the people that have been 600 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:01,980 Watching this I do want to encourage everybody to get this book the the fight for female 601 00:44:02,620 --> 00:44:06,540 Because it is not just for women. Of course, it's it's definitely written 602 00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:12,140 more towards women, but it is the fight for female that everybody needs to get involved with this because 603 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800 Biblical god-given femininity 604 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,160 Uh, the female is under attack right now 605 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:27,440 The image of god in the woman is under attack and we both men and women need to stand up for that 606 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,520 Lisa, thank you so much for giving us some ways that we can do that 607 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,280 Would you pray for our for everybody that's been watching right now? That would be our father. I just thank you 608 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,760 That you are the one that said it's not good for man to be alone 609 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,840 You are the one that formed women to be an answer 610 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,840 to the loneliness of man 611 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,840 but it wasn't because she was just a supplement 612 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,440 But that she was necessary and so father I speak to every woman who has lost her voice 613 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120 To every woman who is afraid to use her voice 614 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,160 For every woman who is only known how to speak in anger and vengeance 615 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,680 And father, I thank you that your holy spirit is bringing healing and truth 616 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,600 I thank you that male and female is a power union. I thank you that we are not wrestling with flesh and blood 617 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,560 But we are wrestling with principalities and powers 618 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,640 And rulers of wickedness in high places that exalt themselves against us knowing 619 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:32,800 God so father. I thank you that this is a battle that is too big for any of us 620 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,400 To fight individually. I thank you father that you have never made it more clear 621 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,760 That there is a dragon in the shadows. So father give us one voice give us one heart 622 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,600 With your son. Let us glorify him. Let holy spirit 623 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,640 Make us one that we would see the same glory 624 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440 Give us eyes to see ears to hear 625 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,840 A heart to believe and a voice to speak what your spirit is doing and saying 626 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,960 And we renounce the lies of the enemy 627 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,000 We renounce the sexualization of womanhood 628 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,720 We renounce the silencing of cowardice and religion 629 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,000 And father we take back our place that you said that woman 630 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,120 Was your idea and god we take back that place 631 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:31,360 That god has entrusted us to fight the battles that women can fight and forgive us father for fighting your sons 632 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,280 And anoint us as your daughters in jesus name. Amen. Amen 633 00:46:35,280 --> 00:47:01,120 Lisa, thank you so much for joining us today here on charisma. It's incredible honor