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Elizabeth, it's great to have you here on Charisma.

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I know our time is short because you have a lot of people that want to talk to you about

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season five of The Chosen.

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And I know the big thing that I talked to Dallas about recently is that the Chosen season

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four is on the CW.

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So I love that people are getting to see and to experience The Chosen in more powerful

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ways.

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What has this experience been like for you seeing this show go from the fledgling couple

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episodes to where it is today?

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Yeah, it's been incredible.

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It feels like a whole lifetime ago, but it also feels like yesterday getting the audition

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and getting the scripts for the first four episodes.

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They were crowdfunded at that time and it was in the middle of nowhere in Texas.

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And I thought this is cool.

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This is a really cool project.

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I had no idea it would get to be where it is today.

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And so quickly too, I think that really shows the passion of our viewership and of our audience.

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I think everyone's hungry for this story being told in this way, in a lot of ways, which

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is very human and very relatable.

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And these characters are just like us and they're messy and they need help.

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And it shows the difficulties in following someone like Jesus, who is radical at that

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time, so radical.

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And yeah, so I mean, it really lends itself to some pretty dramatic moments, which I think

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really is great for TV.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I know we're getting into season five and you guys are, I believe you've wrapped up

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filming for that.

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And so I'm looking forward to what is to come.

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But before we go into what is to come, I want to talk about one episode that was specific

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with your character and just how Mary kind of fell away for a little bit.

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Tell me about you having to portray this aspect of what it's like for somebody to be so close

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to Jesus and then to fall away, but ultimately be brought back.

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It was easy because I think that's what we do all the time.

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I think, you know, for Mary, she's she's triggered in season two and the episodes, I believe

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are five and six, where she's really triggered by the things from her past.

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She runs into a man who's possessed, who calls her by Lilith, which is what she used to go

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by.

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And it's it's reminds her of everything she went through.

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And sometimes when we get scared and triggered and and unsure, it's it's easier to to rely

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on our old habits and what we used to lean on.

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And for her, it was sort of self medication.

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It was alcohol.

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It was gambling.

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It was numbing herself.

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And and and it's a little harder to to rely on on the new tools that she has and the new

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community she has and on Jesus, who is there always for her.

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And so she you know, she does come back to the group and and she does have this beautiful

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scene with Jesus where she apologizes to him and really kind of shares what's on her heart,

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which is I can't live up to this.

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You saved me.

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You completely reformed me.

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And I don't know how to repay you.

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And I still don't feel worthy of that.

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And I just think that's a very common and very relatable feeling of, you know, sometimes

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sometimes we we forget how loved we are and how special and important we are to God.

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And and I think that's that was nice for the show to to, you know, portray that in such

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a relatable way.

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Yeah.

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So, Mary, I'm sorry, Elizabeth, who plays Mary.

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Your character arc is obviously more developed than we see in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

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And so but we're leading to the to the Passion Week, to the crucifixion and ultimately the

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resurrection.

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Tell me whatever you can about season five and specifically from your character's perspective.

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I don't know what I can share.

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But there is, you know, in season four, which is out on the app, so not too many spoilers.

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The whole group goes through so many tragedies.

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And because of Mary's experience with darkness and tragedy in the past, she I think has a

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leg up in some ways in dealing with it and managing and handling it, knowing that this

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is part of life and it is challenging, but that Jesus is here and there there is that

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you must continue on.

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You must continue forward with your faith and with hope.

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And and in season five, we see as things sort of escalate to new heights, that same sort

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of slight understanding, or at least understanding that she doesn't get to understand everything

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that that continues on with her.

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And as as things are sort of crumbling around them, she kind of pushes forward and has has

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her own agenda to try to help.

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And she really there's a strength in her and a determination in her that I think those

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are the characteristics that we recognize in her being at the crucifixion and at the

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resurrection.

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So it's these characteristics that we haven't really seen that much from her before.

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But starting in season four and five, I would say like that's kind of the Mary that we all

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Well, I couldn't get any spoilers out of you.

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So good job on that.

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I know that you did a good job of just painting a picture of we we know what's going to be

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coming and it's it's it's going to be beautifully depicted and it's going to draw people closer

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to Jesus, which is what's really important.

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But there's also this community around the chosen that is a lot of fun.

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And I know that there's the Chosen Con, the convention.

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Can you tell me about the that experience and also interactions with fans?

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Yes.

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So this is actually going to be my first year to be there.

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I didn't I didn't get to go last year scheduling conflicts, but I heard that it was so much

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fun.

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Every actor that that got to go is really and really enjoyed it.

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I'll be there this year.

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It's it's so many incredible panels of groups of actors that are talking about different

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topics and everything and some crew panels and and then meet and greets.

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And I think there's like, I don't know, I don't know how many people are going, but

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I think it's quite a bit.

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But there's also virtual tickets.

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So if you can't get to go in person, you'll be able to watch all of these events and these

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panels and these discussions online, which will be really fun.

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And yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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It's going to be my first Chosen Con.

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That's really cool.

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Yeah, I love all the interaction that Dallas and the team has been able to cultivate around

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this.

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So it's not just wait for the next season.

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It's hey, here's little snippets here and there.

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Here's some behind the scenes things that they've been so good about building this community.

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And I think with that, the actors and everybody that's involved, even whenever you have other

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projects, I find myself wanting to see what Elizabeth is doing in the shift.

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I love that film, by the way.

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And whenever Jonathan is doing something else or any of the other actors, it's really cool

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to be able to see how this is not just you're so connected to the chosen, but it's also

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expanding to other things that you're doing.

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I'm yeah, this there's a couple projects that I'm in that are coming out in the next few

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months that I'm really excited about that I think fans of The Chosen will really enjoy.

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That's very cool.

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Elizabeth, thank you so much for speaking for taking the time to join us here on charisma

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to talk about The Chosen.

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I tried to but unsuccessfully to get you to talk about season five.

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But thank you so much for being here.

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And we look forward to seeing everything that God has for The Chosen.

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And we appreciate you.