Is time travel real?
Is the prophetic real?
Are these two things connected?
This is something that we're gonna discuss today
and right now I have Troy Anderson with me.
He's the author of the new book,
The Trump Code, Exploring Time Travel,
Nikola Tesla, The Trump Lineage, and America's Future.
Now there's a lot to unpack there
and the last time that Troy, you and I talked
was July 13th, the afternoon,
shortly after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life
and we thank God that that was a failed attempt
but it has brought a lot of interest into
who Donald Trump is and what does he have to play
or what role does he have to play
in prophetic and time travel?
So let's unpack this a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, John, so I mean,
I was finishing up The Trump Code
and then the attempted assassination occurred
and as everybody saw, he turned his head right
at the right moment and the bullet just clipped his ear
and he attributed God to saving his life.
So it's just one in a long series of events in his life
where it seems like God is intervening,
there's some kind of divine intervention.
So in The Trump Code, we're unpacking
sort of this 5,000 piece jigsaw puzzle of,
does God have a plan for President Trump?
What's the future of America hold?
And so like we mentioned in the last interview,
we talked about the Baron Trump collection,
these very intriguing series of novels,
talk about this little boy,
goes on these time traveling adventures
guided by his uncle Don, the master of masters,
he lives in Trump Castle on Fifth Avenue in New York
where Trump Tower now stands.
And so there's been articles in Newsweek
and Politico and Krizman News,
you know, talking about is Trump a time traveler
and what's the connection to prophecy?
So people are having fun with this.
So that's part of what the book talks about.
Yeah, so I mean, we're fascinated with prophecy
because God does use prophetic,
he does speak prophetically to prophets,
to people that are listening
and some things are forth telling
and some things are foretelling.
You know, there's things that are written in the Bible
about the end times that we know for fact
that these are going to happen
because we've seen things in the Old Testament
that there's been prophetic words about
and we've seen those unfold exactly like God has described.
And then there's things where it's like,
okay, God, here's the prescriptive
or the voice of the Lord,
this is where we want things to go,
this is how the Lord wants it to go
but it doesn't quite always happen that way
because free will, human will gets in the way.
And there's a longer conversation about that
and please put it in the comments.
But we're talking about time travel too
because we've got prophetic
which is kind of like the biblical understanding
of God speaks about something that is about to happen
or how we need to be able to deal with it.
But then there's this thing of the sci-fi nature
of time travel and it seems to be
like there's some crossover to this.
Help us understand about the prophetic and time travel.
Are they the same thing but just from different,
are they different sides of the same coin?
So in the Trump Code, we talk about this very unusual
situation where the famed inventor, Nikola Tesla,
who had talked about time travel
as had Albert Einstein believed it was possible.
Tesla lived in the early 1900s
and he's been described as the architect
of the modern world.
Our electric grid derives itself from ideas he had,
all kinds of like wireless communications,
just many different inventions that we have today.
So he was living and also he supposedly had come up
with free energy, zero point energy.
You could pull energy from the other dimensions
kind of thing.
So it's like a top secret kind of thing.
So anyways, he was living hotel to hotel
in New York City during World War II and he died in 1943.
And then after he died, reporters would go interview him.
And so he had told some reporter,
I've invented the death rate weapon.
And so the idea was if Nazi Germany attacked us
with nuclear weapons via their air force,
this weapon could fully vaporize them.
So there was sort of a national security interest
in what ideas he had come up with.
So the FBI actually asked Donald Trump's uncle,
John Trump, who is a esteemed professor at MIT
to go review these 80 trunks of files that Tesla had.
And so the official version he came back with is,
I don't think there's anything really
of national security interest here.
But then later on, there was a bunch of missing documents
from Tesla.
And in fact, I interviewed the author of some books
on Tesla.
Mark Seifer was featured in a History Channel special
looking at these missing files.
And so the speculation is that the government kept
a lot of these files and may have developed
all kinds of top secret technologies and inventions
over the decades.
And so the question has been,
does Trump's family have some kind of knowledge
about this thing?
So here recently, the Sun newspaper,
Britain's largest newspaper, they filed a Freedom
Information Act request with the federal government.
They fought a four year legal battle.
And then it came back, this is connected
to those congressional hearings on these UFO and UAP sightings.
So these documents came back and they
said that the government believes that time travel is
possible.
It may help explain how these sightings are occurring.
Could these vehicles be using wormholes, quantum physics,
things like that, anti-gravity technologies.
So the government thinks that there may be something to this.
So the question is, do they have some kind
of primitive technologies along these lines?
Wow.
So there's a lot of questions with that.
So there's a way to break into these other dimensions
and time travel that way.
But it's related to the Trumps.
Could you explain that a little bit more?
So we've got these stories about Baron Trump as a time traveler.
How does this all connect?
Well, what's happened is so the Newsweek and Politico
had these articles.
And then people on the internet, essentially,
had fun with this.
They've created these YouTube videos, TikTok videos,
got millions and millions of views.
This fun thing is Trump a time traveler.
Does that help explain his rise to political power, his wealth?
It's sort of a fun kind of thing.
But if you look at the Bible, there's
all these prophets that God showed them in different ways
what the future held.
And how exactly did this occur?
Like Moses, and Ezekiel, Elijah, Jeremiah, Apostle John.
In many cases, they're shown visions.
They're shown dreams.
In some cases, God speaks directly to them.
But there's a number of curious things in the Bible.
Like let's consider the Mount of Transfiguration.
Jesus is joined by Moses and Elijah
on the Mount of Transfiguration.
He's shining like the sun, like really bright.
But then how did Moses and Elijah get there?
Did they come from heaven?
Or if you go back to the story in Exodus,
Moses is on Mount Sinai, receiving the Ten Commandments.
And when he comes down off the mountain,
he's shining super brightly.
They have to put a veil across his face.
And it's sort of a similar story for Elijah.
So did Jesus bring them from the past
into the future to the Mount of Transfiguration?
And there's sort of a number of stories in the Bible like that.
They're calling to question exactly how
God shows the prophets, the future,
and how, you know, because God's outside of space and time.
And so we explore all these things in the Trump Code.
Yeah.
So tell me about these Barron Trump stories
and your first view reading those.
Because you had a different vantage point.
You're not looking at it as just entertainment
the first time that you were looking at these.
Tell us about some of the things that you found,
maybe some puzzle pieces that you found in that.
Well, what's very interesting about the Barron Trump
collection, so that the first thing is, you know,
Ingersoll Lockwood wrote these books in the 1890s.
And he was a lawyer and an author.
And this is sort of the time of the popularity of the Alice
in Wonderland novel.
So these are books he wrote that are time traveling children
adventure stories.
And so Barron Trump, who's drawing
on the cover of the book, strongly resembles
President Trump's son Barron.
You know, there's a striking resemblance there.
And then he goes on all these adventures with Don.
They go to Russia and all these different things.
And then the most intriguing part
is his last book, The Last President.
And so if you think about different fictional writers
over the decades, you know, George Orwell's 1984,
Big Brother, The Surveillance State.
It seems sort of prophetic in nature,
given what's going on today.
Or Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, the book burnings.
We all read that book when we were kids.
And now you've got cancel culture and the massive
censorship and disinformation.
So we're locked with a novel sort of similar.
And so it calls into question as we approach this 2024
presidential election of all this chaos and division going
on today, could President Trump be the last president?
You know, the book talks about the anarchists and socialists
converging on Trump Castle, shouting death to the rich man.
And then there's like a civil war that breaks out in chaos.
So could he be like the last legitimately elected president?
Or what does the future hold?
So we sort of explore all this in the Trump code.
So Troy, we've also got this whole concept
of another civil war in the book, The Last President,
where Ambrose O'Loughlin talks about the last president.
Tell us a little bit about what happens in that chapter
or that book in that series.
And what are we relating to right now?
So as we approach this 2024 presidential election,
I mean, everybody's expecting who knows what kind of chaos
is going to unfold.
We've watched this massive division in chaos
the last four years.
And so in Ingersoll Lockwood's books,
which he wrote in the 1890s, The Baron Trump Collection,
the last book is The Last President.
And it talks about the anarchists
and the socialists converging on Trump Castle, which
is on Fifth Avenue in New York City, where Trump Tower now
stands, chanting death to the rich man
after the election of a populist president.
And so there's been articles in different mainstream media
outlets asking, was Lockwood sort of prophetic in nature?
What does the future hold?
And given all the chaos we might expect with this election,
we've got the sentencing of President Trump coming up.
We've also got the, there could be legal battles,
I would imagine, after the elections all start to come in.
What kind of chaos could unfold in America?
The last president actually talks about a civil war breaking
out and the military being called in to try
to quell the situation.
So were these novels prophetic in nature?
Only time will tell.
But we explore all this in the Trump Code.
Yeah, so you mentioned about the potential sentence,
or the sentencing of Trump, which could potentially
mean to jail time, like actually going into jail.
Do you think that that would be a linchpin moment that
would be the spark that would cause this civil war?
Well, I think part of the reason why
there's so much division in America is
Americans have seen this all out attack on President Trump
ever since he was first elected in 2016, just one thing
after another, one thing after another.
Then he had all these criminal prosecutions.
The Supreme Court intervened and said
there's immunity to a certain extent for all this stuff.
So if he's actually in prison coming up here
on September 17, that would be a monumental, essentially,
situation where do we still have a democracy?
What kind of republic do we have when
you have an opponent jailing your rival
in the political presidential election?
So only time will tell how people might react to that.
But I would imagine there would be massive public anger
over that kind of situation.
So Troy, if there is to actually be a civil war,
let's speculate here a little bit.
How do you think that that would play out in a 2024 world
as opposed to a 1896 world, whenever that was written?
There's been Democratic leaders that have actually
came out publicly now saying that if President Trump is
elected, they're going to do everything they can to stop him
from taking office.
So the amount of rhetoric that's going on now
is just way over the top of what we've
seen in American politics throughout the country's
history.
So I think it's very important that we pray for our country
right now, that we ask God to intervene in this situation.
It's a very dangerous situation in that we encourage people
to vote and maybe even pray and fast.
I talked to a minister the other day.
He said, after we had that event, they returned.
We had 42 million people watch this National Day
Repentance in the National Mall.
We don't have a big event planned now,
but we can call on Americans to pray and intercede
for our country to fast and repent before God
and return to God.
I think that's the most crucial thing we could do at this time.
Yeah.
So there's a lot to explore with that.
And you just brought up about this last president thing.
And so we've touched about time travel somewhat and prophecy
somewhat here.
I want to bring some of those things together.
And something that I recently heard,
which was an apocryphal prophetic word from a book that's
not in the 66 books of canon in the Bible,
but it's in the book of Esdras, which would have
been a contemporary of Nehemiah.
So there's some people that say it was Ezra or something
of that time frame.
But there is this eagle that there
was this prophetic word about.
And there's been some correlations to that
that people are making from that to the political system
in the United States right now and the history
of our leaders.
You dug into that too, not in the book,
but just as a side note here.
But let's talk about that for a little bit
and how prophecy does speak to our world today.
Yeah, so this is an intriguing prophecy
that's been popularized just here
the last couple of months or so.
And as you mentioned, it involves
Ezra in the Apocrypha, which isn't part of the Christian
Bible, but it is part of the Catholic Bible,
I think Eastern Orthodox and that kind of thing.
I read it as a kid.
And so in this prophecy, this angel
shows Ezra these three eagles that
have these feathers on them.
And their feathers are different length.
And so there's an author who's connected this,
made an interpretation.
His name is Michael Rush.
And what he's claiming is that the first feather on the eagle
refers to Hoover.
And then the next one refers to JFK and then so on,
all the way up to our current presidents.
And so some of these presidents, like FDR,
he was in there for eight terms.
And then others were only for one term and two terms.
And so what he's claiming is that this reference
in the book Revelation to the Horror of Babylon, Mystery
Babylon, that is equivalent to what's
known as the Deep State today.
And so whenever there was a president in there
that sort of went along with the globalists,
went along with the Deep State plans,
they were able to serve out their full term.
But if JFK was assassinated and Nixon was impeached,
then their time is cut short.
And so this brings us up to the last two feathers.
You had President Trump.
And what was his time cut short?
His feathers sort of short with the election,
the last election.
And Joe Biden, now he's been sort of deposed.
And his time has been cut short.
And so the question is, what's going
to happen with the next two feathers
that are on this eagle?
Yeah, so we're not looking at that as biblical prophecy.
But it is still in the vein or in the spirit of prophecy.
And so we have to take that and look at it and say,
all right, Lord, is there anything with this
that we need to be paying attention to?
And in the same vein, you're looking
at these Ingrosso Lockwood books and looking at that
and saying, in the same vein, is there
anything that we need to be paying attention to with this?
And so as you're looking at these things,
what are you seeing that we need to be doing?
Well, I think the most important thing is,
you know, only God knows what the future holds.
But as I probably mentioned in my last interview,
I did this interview with Billy Graham back in 2013.
And he said, when God sent the prophet Jonah to Nineveh
to warn them of judgment, the king and the people repented.
And he believed the same thing could happen again
this time in America.
And in my second book, Trompokulus,
we called for this national day of repentance.
It actually happened, the return on the national mall.
42 million people watched that.
And then we just had this great North American eclipse.
It went through all these towns called Nineveh.
So I wrote that story for Charisma,
the great North American eclipse.
Is this our Nineveh moment?
In other words, is this our chance to turn back to God?
So, you know, the story of Nineveh
is the one example in the Bible
of a nation that God was gonna judge.
And then when they repented, he relented.
And so that's what Billy Graham believed could happen today.
So that's the message, the theme of the Trump code
in all my books is that we need to repent,
turn back to God.
And then, you know, we could see a change
from what, you know, maybe the future holds.
If these Ingersoll-Lockwood prophecies accurate,
or maybe this Ezra one's actually accurate,
you know, maybe that that won't happen.
And we could have a continued opportunity
to spread the gospel
and do everything that Jesus has asked us to do.
Yeah, what is, I mean, obviously we want people
to get their own copy of the Trump code,
which is available for pre-order.
And actually it's available now on Amazon.
So you can get that and it'll be delivered to you quickly.
But it is high in the charts,
which is really awesome to see
that so many people are interested in time travel,
the prophetic Donald Trump's lineage and Nikolai Tesla.
I mean, there's a lot of things
that are just kind of all coming together
and making it a very interesting read.
You as the author, what is the takeaway
that you want to make sure that people have
when they're reading this book?
Well, yeah, I think the most important thing is that
I believe this is our minimum moment.
This is God giving us a chance,
maybe like one last chance to turn back to him.
I would encourage people to pray for our country,
pray for President Trump, go vote this November.
It's very important to people to go vote
and just get involved in our country
because we're on the verge of World War III.
There's all kinds of major economic crises
that could be coming and there's all these prophecies.
It just seems like God's been warning us
for many, many years now.
And this is our opportunity to turn back to him.
So I would encourage people to get right with God.
Amen, amen.
Trey Anderson, thank you so much for taking the time
to out of your busy schedule
because so many people want to talk to you about this book.
Thank you so much for taking the time
to talk to us here today at Charisma.
God bless you.
Yeah, thank you so much, God bless you.