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Is time travel real?

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Is the prophetic real?

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Are these two things connected?

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This is something that we're gonna discuss today

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and right now I have Troy Anderson with me.

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He's the author of the new book,

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The Trump Code, Exploring Time Travel,

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Nikola Tesla, The Trump Lineage, and America's Future.

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Now there's a lot to unpack there

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and the last time that Troy, you and I talked

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was July 13th, the afternoon,

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shortly after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life

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and we thank God that that was a failed attempt

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but it has brought a lot of interest into

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who Donald Trump is and what does he have to play

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or what role does he have to play

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in prophetic and time travel?

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So let's unpack this a little bit.

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Yeah, yeah, John, so I mean,

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I was finishing up The Trump Code

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and then the attempted assassination occurred

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and as everybody saw, he turned his head right

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at the right moment and the bullet just clipped his ear

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and he attributed God to saving his life.

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So it's just one in a long series of events in his life

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where it seems like God is intervening,

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there's some kind of divine intervention.

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So in The Trump Code, we're unpacking

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sort of this 5,000 piece jigsaw puzzle of,

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does God have a plan for President Trump?

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What's the future of America hold?

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And so like we mentioned in the last interview,

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we talked about the Baron Trump collection,

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these very intriguing series of novels,

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talk about this little boy,

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goes on these time traveling adventures

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guided by his uncle Don, the master of masters,

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he lives in Trump Castle on Fifth Avenue in New York

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where Trump Tower now stands.

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And so there's been articles in Newsweek

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and Politico and Krizman News,

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you know, talking about is Trump a time traveler

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and what's the connection to prophecy?

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So people are having fun with this.

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So that's part of what the book talks about.

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Yeah, so I mean, we're fascinated with prophecy

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because God does use prophetic,

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he does speak prophetically to prophets,

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to people that are listening

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and some things are forth telling

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and some things are foretelling.

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You know, there's things that are written in the Bible

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about the end times that we know for fact

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that these are going to happen

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because we've seen things in the Old Testament

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that there's been prophetic words about

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and we've seen those unfold exactly like God has described.

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And then there's things where it's like,

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okay, God, here's the prescriptive

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or the voice of the Lord,

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this is where we want things to go,

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this is how the Lord wants it to go

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but it doesn't quite always happen that way

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because free will, human will gets in the way.

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And there's a longer conversation about that

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and please put it in the comments.

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But we're talking about time travel too

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because we've got prophetic

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which is kind of like the biblical understanding

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of God speaks about something that is about to happen

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or how we need to be able to deal with it.

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But then there's this thing of the sci-fi nature

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of time travel and it seems to be

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like there's some crossover to this.

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Help us understand about the prophetic and time travel.

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Are they the same thing but just from different,

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are they different sides of the same coin?

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So in the Trump Code, we talk about this very unusual

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situation where the famed inventor, Nikola Tesla,

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who had talked about time travel

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as had Albert Einstein believed it was possible.

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Tesla lived in the early 1900s

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and he's been described as the architect

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of the modern world.

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Our electric grid derives itself from ideas he had,

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all kinds of like wireless communications,

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just many different inventions that we have today.

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So he was living and also he supposedly had come up

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with free energy, zero point energy.

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You could pull energy from the other dimensions

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kind of thing.

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So it's like a top secret kind of thing.

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So anyways, he was living hotel to hotel

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in New York City during World War II and he died in 1943.

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And then after he died, reporters would go interview him.

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And so he had told some reporter,

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I've invented the death rate weapon.

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And so the idea was if Nazi Germany attacked us

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with nuclear weapons via their air force,

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this weapon could fully vaporize them.

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So there was sort of a national security interest

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in what ideas he had come up with.

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So the FBI actually asked Donald Trump's uncle,

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John Trump, who is a esteemed professor at MIT

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to go review these 80 trunks of files that Tesla had.

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And so the official version he came back with is,

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I don't think there's anything really

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of national security interest here.

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But then later on, there was a bunch of missing documents

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from Tesla.

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And in fact, I interviewed the author of some books

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on Tesla.

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Mark Seifer was featured in a History Channel special

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looking at these missing files.

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And so the speculation is that the government kept

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a lot of these files and may have developed

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all kinds of top secret technologies and inventions

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over the decades.

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And so the question has been,

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does Trump's family have some kind of knowledge

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about this thing?

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So here recently, the Sun newspaper,

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Britain's largest newspaper, they filed a Freedom

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Information Act request with the federal government.

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They fought a four year legal battle.

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And then it came back, this is connected

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to those congressional hearings on these UFO and UAP sightings.

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So these documents came back and they

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said that the government believes that time travel is

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possible.

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It may help explain how these sightings are occurring.

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Could these vehicles be using wormholes, quantum physics,

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things like that, anti-gravity technologies.

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So the government thinks that there may be something to this.

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So the question is, do they have some kind

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of primitive technologies along these lines?

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So there's a lot of questions with that.

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So there's a way to break into these other dimensions

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and time travel that way.

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But it's related to the Trumps.

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Could you explain that a little bit more?

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So we've got these stories about Baron Trump as a time traveler.

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How does this all connect?

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Well, what's happened is so the Newsweek and Politico

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had these articles.

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And then people on the internet, essentially,

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had fun with this.

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They've created these YouTube videos, TikTok videos,

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got millions and millions of views.

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This fun thing is Trump a time traveler.

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Does that help explain his rise to political power, his wealth?

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It's sort of a fun kind of thing.

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But if you look at the Bible, there's

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all these prophets that God showed them in different ways

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what the future held.

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And how exactly did this occur?

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Like Moses, and Ezekiel, Elijah, Jeremiah, Apostle John.

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In many cases, they're shown visions.

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They're shown dreams.

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In some cases, God speaks directly to them.

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But there's a number of curious things in the Bible.

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Like let's consider the Mount of Transfiguration.

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Jesus is joined by Moses and Elijah

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on the Mount of Transfiguration.

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He's shining like the sun, like really bright.

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But then how did Moses and Elijah get there?

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Did they come from heaven?

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Or if you go back to the story in Exodus,

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Moses is on Mount Sinai, receiving the Ten Commandments.

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And when he comes down off the mountain,

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he's shining super brightly.

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They have to put a veil across his face.

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So did Jesus bring them from the past

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into the future to the Mount of Transfiguration?

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And there's sort of a number of stories in the Bible like that.

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They're calling to question exactly how

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God shows the prophets, the future,

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and how, you know, because God's outside of space and time.

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And so we explore all these things in the Trump Code.

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So tell me about these Barron Trump stories

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and your first view reading those.

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Because you had a different vantage point.

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You're not looking at it as just entertainment

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the first time that you were looking at these.

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Tell us about some of the things that you found,

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maybe some puzzle pieces that you found in that.

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Well, what's very interesting about the Barron Trump

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collection, so that the first thing is, you know,

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Ingersoll Lockwood wrote these books in the 1890s.

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And he was a lawyer and an author.

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And this is sort of the time of the popularity of the Alice

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in Wonderland novel.

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So these are books he wrote that are time traveling children

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adventure stories.

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And so Barron Trump, who's drawing

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on the cover of the book, strongly resembles

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President Trump's son Barron.

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You know, there's a striking resemblance there.

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And then he goes on all these adventures with Don.

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They go to Russia and all these different things.

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is his last book, The Last President.

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And so if you think about different fictional writers

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over the decades, you know, George Orwell's 1984,

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Big Brother, The Surveillance State.

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It seems sort of prophetic in nature,

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given what's going on today.

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Or Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, the book burnings.

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We all read that book when we were kids.

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And now you've got cancel culture and the massive

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censorship and disinformation.

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So we're locked with a novel sort of similar.

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presidential election of all this chaos and division going

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on today, could President Trump be the last president?

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You know, the book talks about the anarchists and socialists

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converging on Trump Castle, shouting death to the rich man.

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And then there's like a civil war that breaks out in chaos.

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So could he be like the last legitimately elected president?

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Or what does the future hold?

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So we sort of explore all this in the Trump code.

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So Troy, we've also got this whole concept

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of another civil war in the book, The Last President,

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where Ambrose O'Loughlin talks about the last president.

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Tell us a little bit about what happens in that chapter

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or that book in that series.

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And what are we relating to right now?

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So as we approach this 2024 presidential election,

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We've watched this massive division in chaos

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the last four years.

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which he wrote in the 1890s, The Baron Trump Collection,

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the last book is The Last President.

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And it talks about the anarchists

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and the socialists converging on Trump Castle, which

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is on Fifth Avenue in New York City, where Trump Tower now

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stands, chanting death to the rich man

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after the election of a populist president.

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And so there's been articles in different mainstream media

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outlets asking, was Lockwood sort of prophetic in nature?

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What does the future hold?

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And given all the chaos we might expect with this election,

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we've got the sentencing of President Trump coming up.

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We've also got the, there could be legal battles,

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What kind of chaos could unfold in America?

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The last president actually talks about a civil war breaking

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out and the military being called in to try

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to quell the situation.

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So were these novels prophetic in nature?

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Only time will tell.

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But we explore all this in the Trump Code.

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Yeah, so you mentioned about the potential sentence,

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or the sentencing of Trump, which could potentially

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mean to jail time, like actually going into jail.

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Do you think that that would be a linchpin moment that

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would be the spark that would cause this civil war?

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there's so much division in America is

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Americans have seen this all out attack on President Trump

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ever since he was first elected in 2016, just one thing

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after another, one thing after another.

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Then he had all these criminal prosecutions.

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The Supreme Court intervened and said

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there's immunity to a certain extent for all this stuff.

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So if he's actually in prison coming up here

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on September 17, that would be a monumental, essentially,

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situation where do we still have a democracy?

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What kind of republic do we have when

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you have an opponent jailing your rival

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in the political presidential election?

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So only time will tell how people might react to that.

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But I would imagine there would be massive public anger

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over that kind of situation.

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So Troy, if there is to actually be a civil war,

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let's speculate here a little bit.

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How do you think that that would play out in a 2024 world

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as opposed to a 1896 world, whenever that was written?

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There's been Democratic leaders that have actually

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came out publicly now saying that if President Trump is

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elected, they're going to do everything they can to stop him

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from taking office.

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So the amount of rhetoric that's going on now

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is just way over the top of what we've

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seen in American politics throughout the country's

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history.

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So I think it's very important that we pray for our country

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right now, that we ask God to intervene in this situation.

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It's a very dangerous situation in that we encourage people

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to vote and maybe even pray and fast.

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I talked to a minister the other day.

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He said, after we had that event, they returned.

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We had 42 million people watch this National Day

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Repentance in the National Mall.

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We don't have a big event planned now,

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but we can call on Americans to pray and intercede

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for our country to fast and repent before God

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and return to God.

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I think that's the most crucial thing we could do at this time.

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So there's a lot to explore with that.

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And you just brought up about this last president thing.

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And so we've touched about time travel somewhat and prophecy

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somewhat here.

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I want to bring some of those things together.

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And something that I recently heard,

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which was an apocryphal prophetic word from a book that's

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not in the 66 books of canon in the Bible,

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but it's in the book of Esdras, which would have

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been a contemporary of Nehemiah.

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So there's some people that say it was Ezra or something

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of that time frame.

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But there is this eagle that there

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was this prophetic word about.

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And there's been some correlations to that

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that people are making from that to the political system

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in the United States right now and the history

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of our leaders.

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You dug into that too, not in the book,

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but just as a side note here.

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But let's talk about that for a little bit

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and how prophecy does speak to our world today.

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Yeah, so this is an intriguing prophecy

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that's been popularized just here

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the last couple of months or so.

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And as you mentioned, it involves

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Ezra in the Apocrypha, which isn't part of the Christian

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Bible, but it is part of the Catholic Bible,

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I think Eastern Orthodox and that kind of thing.

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I read it as a kid.

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And so in this prophecy, this angel

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shows Ezra these three eagles that

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have these feathers on them.

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And their feathers are different length.

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And so there's an author who's connected this,

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made an interpretation.

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His name is Michael Rush.

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And what he's claiming is that the first feather on the eagle

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refers to Hoover.

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And then the next one refers to JFK and then so on,

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all the way up to our current presidents.

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And so some of these presidents, like FDR,

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he was in there for eight terms.

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And so what he's claiming is that this reference

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in the book Revelation to the Horror of Babylon, Mystery

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Babylon, that is equivalent to what's

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known as the Deep State today.

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And so whenever there was a president in there

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that sort of went along with the globalists,

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went along with the Deep State plans,

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they were able to serve out their full term.

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then their time is cut short.

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And so this brings us up to the last two feathers.

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You had President Trump.

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And what was his time cut short?

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His feathers sort of short with the election,

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the last election.

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And Joe Biden, now he's been sort of deposed.

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And his time has been cut short.

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And so the question is, what's going

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to happen with the next two feathers

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that are on this eagle?

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Yeah, so we're not looking at that as biblical prophecy.

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But it is still in the vein or in the spirit of prophecy.

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And so we have to take that and look at it and say,

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all right, Lord, is there anything with this

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that we need to be paying attention to?

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And in the same vein, you're looking

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at these Ingrosso Lockwood books and looking at that

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and saying, in the same vein, is there

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anything that we need to be paying attention to with this?

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And so as you're looking at these things,

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what are you seeing that we need to be doing?

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you know, only God knows what the future holds.

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But as I probably mentioned in my last interview,

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I did this interview with Billy Graham back in 2013.

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And he said, when God sent the prophet Jonah to Nineveh

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to warn them of judgment, the king and the people repented.

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And he believed the same thing could happen again

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this time in America.

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And in my second book, Trompokulus,

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we called for this national day of repentance.

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It actually happened, the return on the national mall.

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42 million people watched that.

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And then we just had this great North American eclipse.

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It went through all these towns called Nineveh.

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So I wrote that story for Charisma,

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the great North American eclipse.

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Is this our Nineveh moment?

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In other words, is this our chance to turn back to God?

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So, you know, the story of Nineveh

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is the one example in the Bible

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of a nation that God was gonna judge.

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And then when they repented, he relented.

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And so that's what Billy Graham believed could happen today.

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So that's the message, the theme of the Trump code

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in all my books is that we need to repent,

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turn back to God.

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And then, you know, we could see a change

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from what, you know, maybe the future holds.

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If these Ingersoll-Lockwood prophecies accurate,

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or maybe this Ezra one's actually accurate,

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you know, maybe that that won't happen.

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And we could have a continued opportunity

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to spread the gospel

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and do everything that Jesus has asked us to do.

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Yeah, what is, I mean, obviously we want people

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to get their own copy of the Trump code,

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which is available for pre-order.

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And actually it's available now on Amazon.

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So you can get that and it'll be delivered to you quickly.

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But it is high in the charts,

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which is really awesome to see

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that so many people are interested in time travel,

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the prophetic Donald Trump's lineage and Nikolai Tesla.

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I mean, there's a lot of things

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that are just kind of all coming together

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and making it a very interesting read.

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You as the author, what is the takeaway

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that you want to make sure that people have

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when they're reading this book?

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Well, yeah, I think the most important thing is that

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I believe this is our minimum moment.

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This is God giving us a chance,

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maybe like one last chance to turn back to him.

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I would encourage people to pray for our country,

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pray for President Trump, go vote this November.

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It's very important to people to go vote

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and just get involved in our country

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because we're on the verge of World War III.

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There's all kinds of major economic crises

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that could be coming and there's all these prophecies.

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It just seems like God's been warning us

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for many, many years now.

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And this is our opportunity to turn back to him.

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So I would encourage people to get right with God.

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Amen, amen.

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Trey Anderson, thank you so much for taking the time

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to out of your busy schedule

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because so many people want to talk to you about this book.

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Thank you so much for taking the time

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to talk to us here today at Charisma.

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God bless you.

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Yeah, thank you so much, God bless you.

