1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,120 I came to the realization to call on God. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,440 I said, God, if I don't have the real thing, 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:05,360 I want the real thing. 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,360 I said, in 2,000 years, we've done something. 5 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,520 We've changed this. 6 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,720 It's not real. 7 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Even though all these people speak and talk, 8 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,160 it's not real. 9 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,480 And I said, God, I gotta know. 10 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,480 I'm not going through this and not have the real thing. 11 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Pastor Henry Schaefer, it is a pleasure 12 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,200 to be able to have you here on Charisma Magazine online 13 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,360 to be able to talk about your journey 14 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,440 and really this whole thing of deliverance, 15 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,320 how God has brought you from being just a pastor 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,520 and how God has spoken to you about deliverance 17 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,200 is your call. 18 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,560 And so you've been a great influence 19 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 in a lot of people's lives that we're connected with, 20 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Greg Locke being one of them. 21 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,640 He mentions you as kind of like a spiritual father, 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,680 a spiritual mentor. 23 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,560 And so we're honored to be able to talk with you 24 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,040 and we wanna hear your story. 25 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,360 And we've talked before actually hitting a record here 26 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,120 and my faith has already grown as a result 27 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,240 to your story. 28 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,160 So welcome here and thank you so much for being here. 29 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,480 Well, thank you so much for having me. 30 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,680 I'm honored. 31 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,200 I'm very humbled to be interviewed by Charisma Magazine. 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,800 And John, I just love your spirit. 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,080 I just love your attitude towards the Lord 34 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,560 and supernatural things. 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,800 So just thank you so much for having me 36 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,600 and I'm ready to whatever the Lord wants me to say, 37 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,920 that's what I wanna say. 38 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,200 Whatever I do, I want to honor God. 39 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,240 I wanna represent the kingdom of God in its fullness. 40 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,680 And that's what I wanna do in the interview. 41 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Amen. 42 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Well, pastor, we're gonna talk about 43 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,280 several different things. 44 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,440 And one of the things that really stuck out to me 45 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,480 is your obedience. 46 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,840 In our previous conversation, 47 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,440 you talked about how God called you 48 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,080 to start a radio station. 49 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,320 And you didn't know anything about that. 50 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,480 And then God called you into deliverance ministry 51 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,280 and God gave you an amazing experience. 52 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,800 I want you to share that story as well. 53 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,960 But let's start with your call to ministry. 54 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,240 How did God bring you into being a pastor? 55 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Okay, well, what happened in my life, 56 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,600 I grew up in church, 57 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,720 I grew up in a congregational, a homeless church, 58 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,280 grew up in a Pentecostal homeless church 59 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,120 and the church of God. 60 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,800 So it's all part of the Pentecostal fellowship 61 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,760 we kind of was around as we were growing up. 62 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,840 But I had always been exposed to Pentecost 63 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,200 and the supernatural. 64 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,920 So I know I can tell you the day 65 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:41,680 or the time where I was at 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,040 when the Lord called me to ministry, 67 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,840 it was like I was 12 years old. 68 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,280 And it was one of them church services they have. 69 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,360 And I know I was kneeling down on the front few 70 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,000 and I heard the Lord speak to me. 71 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,280 He said, I've called you to preach my word. 72 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,240 So, at 12 years old, at the end of the service, 73 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,160 I walked up to my pastor and said, 74 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,560 pastor I said, and he was closing out the service. 75 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,440 So I'm standing there looking up at him. 76 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,680 And I said, I think I just heard the Lord 77 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,000 call me to ministry. 78 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,960 So he kind of like patted me on the head there, 79 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,600 he says, you'll be all right. 80 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,040 So that right there was kind of like, 81 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,080 if a pastor didn't believe in me and didn't embrace it, 82 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,480 then I struggled with it, see what I mean? 83 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,680 And I've made sure now when people tell me that 84 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,000 I do not, I embrace their call. 85 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,160 If they're here in the voice of the Lord, 86 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,080 then I need to be like Eli and say, 87 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,200 when he speaks to you say, yes Lord, I'm listening. 88 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,640 What do you want me to do? 89 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:39,560 So anyway, that was my call to the ministry at 12 years old. 90 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,000 And, but I would struggle with that for a long time. 91 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,040 And as growing up, I would, you know, 92 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,360 as teenagers growing up, get in and get out of church, 93 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,200 things like that. 94 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,960 I was always knowing what's right and what's wrong. 95 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,720 And I think that God has a soul ties to you 96 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,840 that he doesn't let you get too far. 97 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,520 And then it was in my twenties is really when 98 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,800 I really got serious with God and I really got some training, 99 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,960 some biblical training. 100 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,000 I was living up in Iowa and I was under a ministry there 101 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,000 in Iowa that, you know, that they, they were there to gear, 102 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,800 they were there to train five old ministers. 103 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,520 And in that, in that experience while I was there 104 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,840 for three and a half years, 105 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:28,160 there's where I got most, most of my, 106 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,440 it's not formal training, 107 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,560 but it was on the level of seminary training. 108 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,280 And so I got it there. 109 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,640 And, but in that, I want to share with you 110 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,200 in that experience while I was there, I said, 111 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,360 I just can't have this Lord, you know, 112 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,640 am I called to the ministry? 113 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,920 You know, did mama call me, papa call me and all this. 114 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,200 And I really started seeking God there. 115 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,400 And in that experience there, 116 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,120 cause I'm, cause this might be the only time 117 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,200 I ever get to share this really with people is that, 118 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,680 and you know, when Paul said in the Bible, he says, 119 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,280 I don't know if I was in my body or out of my body. 120 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:08,080 He said, but I was taken up to the third heaven. 121 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Well, I can say that it's, I don't know if I was there 122 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,240 or for your, for your understanding, 123 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,000 I'm going to say it was a dream, 124 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,440 but in a dream is when the Lord, 125 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,120 I had an experience with Jesus and Jesus actually set me 126 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,400 in my ministry, called me into the ministry. 127 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,080 In this, most people will, I'm telling you it's a dream, 128 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,440 but it's more of what is called a theophany. 129 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Some people, theophanies or theophanies 130 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,200 where the Lord appeared, like Paul, 131 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,880 he appears, this is your ministry. 132 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,160 This is what you will do. 133 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,320 And many people look for that. 134 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,360 And, but I didn't look for it, didn't seek it. 135 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,280 But I just know that this was what my ministry, 136 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:53,760 my calling is, is to, you know, so I have no doubt. 137 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,600 This is, I'm called, this is the ministry. 138 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,120 I'm gonna walk in it and supernatural things follows. 139 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,640 It's crazy. 140 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,480 You know what I mean? 141 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,320 It just happens. 142 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,400 And I just, I just want to serve the Lord. 143 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,600 Well, let's talk about some of those supernatural things. 144 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,360 And I don't want to, I don't want to skip 145 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,600 over your story too much, but I do want to, 146 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,280 we're going to talk about some supernatural things, 147 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:13,720 but I want to tell everybody that what Pastor Henry 148 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,160 has already told me is going to really encourage your faith. 149 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,360 And so Pastor Henry, just keep on going. 150 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,760 I just wanted to interject right there. 151 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,600 Oh yeah. 152 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,120 So, I mean, just things like that. 153 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,960 But I think that's one of the things, 154 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,880 the being called to the ministry. 155 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,960 There's a lot of people who want to be in ministry. 156 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,720 A lot of people are called. 157 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,080 They have this unction or what have you. 158 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,440 But, you know, I don't know how that, 159 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,520 I don't know how you get past it because you struggle. 160 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,160 But if they called you, walk in your calling 161 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,280 and then just serve the Lord and He'll, 162 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:46,920 He will vindicate your calling. 163 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,560 He will show people that you are one of His 164 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,440 five-fold ministers in that. 165 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,440 So anyway, so something I didn't share with you before 166 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:00,280 is that I used to work here in Augusta, Georgia over here 167 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,560 for a large pharmaceutical company. 168 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,760 And I was there for like 18 years. 169 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,440 And so I did instrument leptical work. 170 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,680 And in 2000, the Lord said, 171 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,520 it's time for you to leave and I want you to go pastor. 172 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Well, this place is like number three pay 173 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,000 in the whole CSRA, Central Savannah River area. 174 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,760 And I came to a little church that couldn't pay my salary, 175 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,120 barely, hardly pay my salary or much less pay 176 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880 for my benefits or anything like that. 177 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,680 I think we had like 10 people on Wednesday, 178 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,480 little small church, maybe a whole really company, 179 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,920 50 people. 180 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,760 And I took that, I left my job, got my wife, 181 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,880 we came over to Carolina, Vaucluse, South Carolina 182 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,280 and pastored a little small church there. 183 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,120 And we were there for, I don't know, within the first year 184 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,000 and the Lord spoke to me and He says, 185 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,880 here's what I want you to do. 186 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,360 He said, I want you to build a church. 187 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,160 And I met with my pastor's council 188 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,400 and they sat like there right there. 189 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,760 They said, well, where are you gonna get the money at 190 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,760 to pay for this church? 191 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,120 I said, well, the Lord didn't tell me that. 192 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,320 He just told me it's time to build a church. 193 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,880 I says, y'all don't even have enough faith 194 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,880 to go to the bank. 195 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Y'all don't have enough faith to even go to the bank. 196 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,120 So we went to the bank and we were approved 197 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,520 for $500,000 because of the property 198 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 and a little bit of money they had set aside. 199 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,560 When we stepped out and said that we were gonna build 200 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,680 a church, the flood gates opened and people started coming 201 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 from all over the place and that little bitty building. 202 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,000 And within the next two years, two and a half years, 203 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,720 we built 11,500 square foot building up on the bypass. 204 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Our payments was like $5,000 a month 205 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,200 when we first went into that thing. 206 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,000 And the monies was just, the money was coming, 207 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,400 but there was a war that would set in. 208 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,640 And the war that would set in was, 209 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,400 there was a lot of changes happening within the church. 210 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,720 I was in my mid forties and what was happening was 211 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,400 they didn't want to change, 212 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,440 the churches just didn't want the change. 213 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,920 They had all these new people coming, 214 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,520 they were losing power, they're losing control. 215 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,360 And the Lord actually had to, 216 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,960 some people separated from the church. 217 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,320 And when they separated from the church, they took money. 218 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,480 And they thought that, well, we know how to get rid 219 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,680 of the pastor, we just hold the money. 220 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:28,120 Well, they didn't realize that, well, I had been, 221 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,520 had a career, so I said, 222 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 now I'll just go back to work and pastor. 223 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,720 So that was a kind of a win-win there. 224 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,880 But here's what I wanna let you know, 225 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,400 is that there was times when our payments was still $5,000. 226 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,560 And I would say, Lord, and I'd meet with the council, 227 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,880 I say, hey, we got a $5,000 a month payment 228 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,040 and we don't have the money, so I'm working. 229 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,600 And I said, we gotta figure out what we're gonna do. 230 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,880 It'd be like seven or eight o'clock at night. 231 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,120 And then right there in the little meeting room 232 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,240 at the front foyer, there'd be a knock on the door 233 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,840 and I walked to the front door. 234 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,080 I mean, walk right out the room and say, 235 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,680 yes, sir, what can I do for you? 236 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,920 And it was like the Bell South man. 237 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,160 And he was standing there and he says, listen, 238 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 he said, I've gotta put one of these little boxes, 239 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,400 telephone connections at the corner of the property. 240 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,760 I would like to do it on a church. 241 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,760 He says, but he says, 242 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,480 we'd like to put it right here on your property. 243 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,840 He said, would you be open to that? 244 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,360 He says, we'll pay money for it. 245 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,200 I said, yes, sir. 246 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,480 I said, what kind of money are you talking about? 247 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,120 He says, well, what about $5,000? 248 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,120 He said, would that be all right? 249 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,280 So the very thing that we were dealing with, 250 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,720 knock at the front door, there's the money. 251 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,520 And this happened to me over and over and over. 252 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,480 So I know you can cut this out anytime you want. 253 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,000 So I've gotta tell you, I would go to work. 254 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Before I go to work, I'd go pray. 255 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,680 And I say, God, we gotta have money. 256 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:52,880 We got to have money to make this thing operate. 257 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,800 You said, Bill, and it's coming. 258 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,800 So I would go to church and I'd say, Lord, 259 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,640 this month we gotta have another $5,000. 260 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,360 He said, money's in the bank. 261 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,480 He kept telling me money's in the bank. 262 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,120 He said, money's in the bank. 263 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,520 I said, well, I know the money's in the bank. 264 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Everybody's got the money in the bank. 265 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,160 You know, the bank's got all the money. 266 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,560 And I had a lady who was swapping from the old style 267 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,520 of doing it in a ledger to QuickBooks. 268 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,600 And she was updating everything like that. 269 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,440 She called me at work, said, hey, you gotta come to church. 270 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Get off of church. 271 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,400 We got something wrong with the books. 272 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,160 So I came into church. 273 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,480 And I said, tell me what's going on. 274 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,760 She said, I'ma tell you. 275 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,560 She says, you've got more money in the bank 276 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,440 than what you know. 277 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,600 I said, what? 278 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,760 I said, how much? 279 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,000 She says, you got $5,000 more in the bank 280 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,280 than what you think. 281 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,760 I said, how did it happen? 282 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,720 She says, they made a deposit 283 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,240 and forgot to write the deposit down in the checkbook. 284 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,520 She says, you got 5,000 more. 285 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,520 See, over and over and over, 286 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,680 it had always been just like this. 287 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,600 And God has always shown up to make things happen 288 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,840 because I didn't call myself to build that church. 289 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,240 The next thing is, of course, 290 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,880 interest rates go down, our payments are well manageable now 291 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,280 and things like that. 292 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,080 And then after we got the church built, 293 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,040 I want you to think about it. 294 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,160 It took several years to build the church. 295 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,440 We got actually in an 05. 296 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,240 We started there in 2000, in 05. 297 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,560 And at the end of that, 298 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:23,480 because I've always wanted to do something 299 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,040 because I've always worked construction or building. 300 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,200 And I said, Lord, what else you want? 301 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,240 The church is built, what do you want me to do? 302 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,160 And the Lord spoke to me about, 303 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,840 I told you about facing the giants. 304 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,800 And when the movie came out and he started saying, 305 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,240 I want you to build me a radio station. 306 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,240 And it was right at the end, the heels of the church building. 307 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,000 And he says, now I want you to build a radio station. 308 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,480 So I said, I've never done anything like that. 309 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,560 And he says, you'll be facing giants. 310 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:57,400 And like I said in the past, we went to Washington DC, 311 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,360 had to hire an FCC lawyer. 312 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,760 The radio station covers 1.4 million people 313 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,280 in the Augusta, Georgia market. 314 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,920 And what happens is we won the bid. 315 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,040 We're supposed to have paid 200,000. 316 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,880 We got up for 20,000. 317 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,480 And the first time bidders, we made it, 318 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,800 they reduced it to 13,000. 319 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,040 And we, the $7,000 that was left over paid our lawyer. 320 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,840 Oh, the first donation we got to the radio station 321 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,680 after that was 13,000. 322 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:30,560 I asked the person, I said, why did you give 13,000? 323 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:33,280 He says, well, isn't that what you pay for the radio station? 324 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Say, God wanted to give you money back. 325 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,480 So the first donation came in was 326 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,440 the amount that we paid for it. 327 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,000 So, you know, God's not gonna be a debtor to nobody. 328 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,960 So I'm just letting you know, he's not a debtor to nobody. 329 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,360 So trust the Lord with your money 330 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,840 and he'll make sure you get it back. 331 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,240 He's not a debtor. 332 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,680 He'll take care, he takes care of the people. 333 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:56,680 So we got the radio station and we've been on radio now 334 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,280 since 2014, started in 07, got to 2014. 335 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,280 And just as soon as 2014 ended up, it was July of 2014, 336 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,240 is when I had that a supernatural experience. 337 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,560 I was called to go to Diverville, Mississippi. 338 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,840 And when I was in Mississippi, 339 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,440 I was preaching about the supernatural things 340 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,200 that I had seen about God, gifts of the Holy Spirit, 341 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,600 words of wisdom, words of knowledge, 342 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,120 discerning of spirits and miracles, 343 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,080 and gifts of faith, operation, 344 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,360 and all types of things I was sharing. 345 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,200 And those things became so prevalent 346 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,640 that they were so shocking to me. 347 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,160 I said, God, why am I experiencing so much of this? 348 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,520 And here's what he said. 349 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,280 He said, how else will you teach others 350 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,080 unless you have experienced at least one time in your life? 351 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,280 So I said, there would be times when I would, 352 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,960 I'd be praying, like he told me 353 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,160 that how to stir the gifts up 354 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,040 was praying the Holy Spirit, praying in tongues. 355 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,280 And I'd get up every morning, 356 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,320 I pray in the spirit like an hour every morning, 357 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,760 praying in tongues, praying in tongues, 358 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,360 stirring up the gift. 359 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,680 He said, this is the doorway to the supernatural. 360 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,400 The more you pray, the more supernatural happens. 361 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Little praying, little supernatural. 362 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,960 And I was praying and then, 363 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,360 and I was telling the story of something like this is, 364 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,920 I came home from work, I fell on my knees, 365 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,520 I gotta go to church, 366 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,360 wanna make sure my heart's right. 367 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,440 And in this incident that happened, 368 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,640 in this period of time, 369 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,200 is that all of a sudden a window opened up, 370 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,680 opened up like this. 371 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,440 And I was in my bedroom on the floor, 372 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,080 it's kind of like dark, about 530, 373 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,720 you know how when the winter hits, it's kind of dark. 374 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,640 And I was praying, I said, Lord, 375 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,200 here's my prayer. 376 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,600 And yeah, I wasn't seeking the Lord, 377 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,760 I'm like, oh God, show me, show me, show me, use me. 378 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Cause I did that in the morning, 379 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,480 now I'm here, I'm coming home at the end of the day, 380 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,920 God, I wanna make sure there's no sin in my life. 381 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,280 I wanna make sure there's nothing wrong, 382 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,960 there's nothing before I go to church 383 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,440 that would hinder anything, you know? 384 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,800 And so what happens is, 385 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,120 all of a sudden a window opens up as I'm praying, 386 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,600 I'm kneeling over a pillow, opens up like this. 387 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,000 And he shows me a woman from her waist up, 388 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,320 her hair or earrings. 389 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,320 He shows me everything about her. 390 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 And he starts speaking to me. 391 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,360 And I'm talking about speaking to him, 392 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,800 and he says, she's been to several dentists, 393 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,080 they don't know what's wrong with her. 394 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,680 He says, I want you to stand up and call her out. 395 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,440 He says, I want you to tell her, ask her, 396 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,480 does she believe I'll fill her teeth? 397 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,280 And he says, tell her I'm gonna fill her teeth. 398 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,960 This is crazy, brother. 399 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Heavenly filling of my choice. 400 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,240 And he says, when she responds to you, yes, 401 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,840 he says, you're to lay hands on her 402 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,680 or to receive her healing. 403 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,840 And he says, do you understand? 404 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,160 And I'm seeing this in an open-eyed vision. 405 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,000 I said, yes, Lord, I understand. 406 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,440 And I said this here, please don't laugh at me, brother. 407 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,960 I said, Lord, you can show me all this. 408 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 I said, what color shoes would this woman have on? 409 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,440 And he said, blue high heels. 410 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,000 He says, you understand? 411 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Went away. 412 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,640 I said, oh my God. 413 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,760 I said, I've only read this in books 414 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,920 where God would show them, say, you gotta really, 415 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,240 this is what kind of stuff was happening to me 416 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,720 is that where God could show you a word of wisdom 417 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,640 of what he wanted you to do, you know, in very detail. 418 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,000 So I go to church that night, sitting on the front row, 419 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,920 my friend sitting right here next to me. 420 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,280 We're talking as the church begins and he bumps my arm. 421 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,440 And when he bumps my arm, I turn and look 422 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,160 and I see this woman does, she bumps my arm. 423 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,480 I turn and look and that was the view 424 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,160 that I saw in the vision. 425 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,360 And I looked at him and I said, brother, 426 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:39,000 that's what color shoes that woman have on. 427 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,800 He leaned over and said, blue high heels. 428 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,800 So those are the kinds of things that I was teaching about 429 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,120 in Mississippi about how God can use the gift 430 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:52,920 of the Holy Spirit for his plans and purposes 431 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,160 through words of wisdom, words of knowledge, 432 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,160 and how you can stir this up because this is the supernatural. 433 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,000 We're part of a supernatural body. 434 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,960 And I was teaching about yielding to the Holy Spirit 435 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,440 and letting him use you. 436 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,240 And then at the end of that service, 437 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,720 this is where it comes in at, at the end of that. 438 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,160 And I prayed for everybody that night. 439 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,400 It's the African-American church, 440 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,920 hold about a hundred people. 441 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,440 And man, I'm telling you, they make you pray for everybody. 442 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,600 I'm telling you, I love praying. 443 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,120 I love going to church. 444 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:26,720 So at the end of the service, they brought a man in 445 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,880 who had never walked. 446 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,240 Two men totaled him in, they were carrying him like, 447 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,920 it was like in a seat, totaling him in, 448 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,320 one on each side, set him on the front row 449 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,640 and they challenged the Lord. 450 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,040 They said, you, the pastor, he says, you pray, 451 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,400 you preach about this supernatural God, pray for him. 452 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,000 And he was not in the church service. 453 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,560 He was sitting in a side room somewhere. 454 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,440 He'd never been there all night. 455 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,440 So all I did was I asked him, 456 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,400 and all I did is laid hands on his head. 457 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,480 This is all I knew to do. 458 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 I rebuked the evil spirits that was tormenting him. 459 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,840 I had enough understanding that demons cause sickness. 460 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,960 I don't know where all these people have a problem 461 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,640 with demons, you know what I mean, and sickness. 462 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,840 I don't understand why they can't see the connection. 463 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Jesus showed us in the Bible. 464 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,080 Well, anyway, I laid hands on him, rebuked the evil spirits. 465 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,000 And I said, Lord, I pray that you give the man a miracle. 466 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,520 And I looked at him and I says, do you want to walk? 467 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,920 And he nodded his head. 468 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Now he's slobbering because I mean, he's just that, 469 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,040 that's how sick he was. 470 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,160 So I stuck my hand out like that. 471 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,600 And I said, grab my hand and his arms shook like that. 472 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,680 And his arm grew out and he grabbed my hand. 473 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,000 And I said, now his knees are to his chest. 474 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,200 I says, do you want to stand? 475 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,080 He nodded his head and I pulled him. 476 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,040 I said, let's stand. 477 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,320 And when I did his knees shook. 478 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,360 It was crazy seeing this like this here 479 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,600 and his legs grew out and touched the floor. 480 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,720 And I pulled on him. 481 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,800 And when we pulled on him, he stood up 482 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 and we walked across the front of the church. 483 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,280 And that, and the church came unglued. 484 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,880 I see in my mind, I see in my mind, 485 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320 in a cartoon, you ever seen a cartoon building 486 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,560 when they're on inside and the cart, 487 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,120 the building's going like that in the cartoon. 488 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:07,960 It was bad. 489 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,200 They were screaming. 490 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,200 They were screaming. 491 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,640 I'm talking about shouting. 492 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,880 And it was like pandemonium in that place 493 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,280 because see they knew him, I didn't. 494 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 And we just walked across the front of the church. 495 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,280 And that was the setting up of deliverance for me. 496 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Cause I'd always believed in it, 497 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,720 but I knew that I had missed something. 498 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,720 And I'm telling the churches missed it. 499 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,440 You know what I think, you know what I think it is, John? 500 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,240 The church is not hungry anymore. 501 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,520 They're not hungry for the supernatural. 502 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,160 They're not hungry for the real. 503 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,880 It's not music, it's not music, it's not lights. 504 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,880 And we have that. 505 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,280 That's not it. 506 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,640 You understand that's not, you can have that. 507 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,000 You can have all the things of God without all that. 508 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,240 That makes sense. 509 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,080 Yeah. 510 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,120 Brother, I have two questions. 511 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:01,360 I want to talk about this need for the hunger again. 512 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,200 That's it. 513 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,360 I have two questions about that experience from that night. 514 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,480 First, you had that vision, that open vision 515 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,000 with this lady with the blue high heels. 516 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,040 I want to know what happened with her. 517 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,320 So what happened? 518 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,400 Okay, what happened? 519 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,280 How long was that man in that condition? 520 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:19,560 Oh, how long we seen that condition? 521 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,640 I don't know how long he was. 522 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,360 You know, how many years he'd been like that? 523 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,760 Well, he was like in his forties. 524 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,640 He was in his forties. 525 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,040 And the woman, yes, I did get to talk with the woman. 526 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,360 And yeah, sure enough, it happened like she had problems 527 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,200 with her teeth and things like that. 528 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,040 And, you know, so, I mean, that's what I know about her. 529 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,040 But the man is, you know, he walked. 530 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,200 And after that, it was kind of like, 531 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,720 I don't know if that was for everybody else, 532 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,640 but it was for me. 533 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,520 You know what I mean? 534 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,440 It experienced with me to really drive me 535 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,240 to something deeper. 536 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,560 And, you know, there are times that I have learned, 537 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,080 and I don't know about these, 538 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,080 there are times when God does a miracle, 539 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,760 not that I've been a part of, 540 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,040 but he's done things where the enemy comes back 541 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,800 and regains the ground. 542 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,280 And I think that is because that we don't understand 543 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,400 spiritual warfare is because like Jesus said, 544 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,880 when a spirit leaves and something happens, 545 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,720 that it will try to come back. 546 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,320 And if it does come back, it will come back worse. 547 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,320 So that's where keeping out, 548 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,080 and I think that's where the faith comes in 549 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,040 to reject the enemy and don't let him come back in 550 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,880 to those things. 551 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Does that make sense what I'm saying? 552 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Absolutely, yeah. 553 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Yeah. 554 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,600 So the hunger. 555 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 So let's talk about the hunger and the need for that. 556 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Because I think that's one of the things 557 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,760 that we really deal with and why there's such a blind need 558 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,040 for spiritual warfare and a blind need for deliverance. 559 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,560 We're just blinded to that. 560 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600 So let's talk about that. 561 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,440 So let me, I mean, if you really wanna know what happened 562 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,440 is here I am in mid to late thirties. 563 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,200 I speak in tongues, I pray in tongues, 564 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,440 but I came to the realization to myself 565 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,560 and I really came to myself and I said, 566 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 I don't believe I have the baptism of the Holy Ghost 567 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,480 speaking in tongues. 568 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,040 I don't have it. 569 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,680 And I came to the realization to call on God. 570 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,600 I said, God, if I don't have the real thing, 571 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,720 I want the real thing. 572 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,000 I said, in 2000 years, we've done something. 573 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,720 We've changed this. 574 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,760 It's not real. 575 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,360 Even though all these people speak in tongues, 576 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:38,200 it's not real. 577 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,440 And I said, God, I got to know. 578 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,280 I got that. 579 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,640 I'm not going through this and not have the real thing. 580 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,520 And so I was in my bedroom on a Tuesday. 581 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,760 I worked shift and all. 582 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,080 I was on a Tuesday and I was praying 583 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,880 and just as soon as the word of the Lord came to me, 584 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,000 he says, there's a revival going across town. 585 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,920 I want you to be there tonight. 586 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,360 I have a word for you. 587 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,120 I said, oh my God, see, I can hear him talking to me. 588 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:02,800 I said, ooh, look here. 589 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,440 So I come out of my bedroom. 590 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,920 I go into the kitchen there with my wife. 591 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,800 I said, hey, I just heard from the Lord, 592 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,360 there's a revival going across town. 593 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:10,880 I'm supposed to be across town. 594 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,400 And the Lord has a word for me. 595 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,320 I says, you wanna go? 596 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,400 And here's what my wife says, Sister Shaver, 597 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,560 we've been married 49 years and she's just a gem. 598 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,840 I'm telling you, I got the pick of the whole litter. 599 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,040 I got the best one and of everybody. 600 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,960 But she said this year, she said, did he tell you to go? 601 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,800 I go, yeah. 602 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,960 He said, well, I'm not going to. 603 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,600 I said, okay. 604 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,880 So I drove 40 miles across town. 605 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,200 I go into a church, it holds 300 people. 606 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,680 It was like 10 people there. 607 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,160 And I walk in, it's an old man. 608 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,880 He's in his seventies and here's what he said. 609 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,440 He sat down, he got ready to preach. 610 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,800 He said, I don't know who this is for, 611 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,360 but this is the only thing I'm gonna preach 612 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,680 is what he gives me. 613 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,280 And he's telling me to whoever's here to tell you 614 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,080 to stir up the gift that he's given you, stir it up. 615 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,400 And I knew exactly what that meant. 616 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,040 That meant the gift of the Holy Spirit he had given me, 617 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,160 that means stir it up. 618 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,360 And so I would go home from that point on 619 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,320 and it would be like three months every morning. 620 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,360 I'd get up, I pray in the Holy Ghost an hour every morning. 621 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,880 I said, Lord, you told me to stir it up. 622 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:43,840 And I just start praying in tongues. 623 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,600 That the baptism of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues is real. 624 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,480 And here's the thing he says, these signs 625 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,640 would follow them that believe. 626 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,240 So I was to the point to where I'm saying, 627 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,880 there's nothing happening supernatural in my life. 628 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,680 So I don't have it. 629 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,120 You know, every now and then something small, 630 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,280 I said, I don't have it. 631 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,160 But now I got no doubt in my mind. 632 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,200 And even some people have told me that 633 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,200 when I speak in tongues and I do YouTube, 634 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,560 and you know, I'm at church 635 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,120 and I start speaking in tongues on the, 636 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,680 they'll go there and they'll say, 637 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,720 he's speaking in an Arabic language. 638 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,040 YouTubers say that he's speaking in Arabic language. 639 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Yeah, and things like that. 640 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,520 So the thing is, is that I want to encourage you, 641 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,760 don't let the enemy try to tell you that you don't have it. 642 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,000 You do have it, stir it up. 643 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,360 That's the power. 644 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,640 That's the doorway to the supernatural. 645 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,680 He's like the apostles. 646 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,520 He told them, don't go anywhere. 647 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,520 They try to preach, to try to cast out demons 648 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,240 or do anything of the supernatural 649 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960 till you go to the upper room and you'll receive power. 650 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,040 So being baptized in the Holy Ghost, you have this. 651 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,160 You got to stir it up. 652 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,920 He told him in the Bible, we got to stir this up. 653 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,160 And the more you stir it up, listen, watch what God does. 654 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840 He will vindicate his own word. 655 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320 And these sounds will follow those that believe. 656 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,080 So you have to get past the point where I was at. 657 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,960 I'm not seeing anything. 658 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,920 And you got to recognize your own deficit 659 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,120 in your own ministry and your own life. 660 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,800 And you start doing a reality check 661 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,960 and then this will stir it up 662 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,920 and things will start happening. 663 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,520 Is this okay? 664 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,840 This is powerful, brother. 665 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,200 This is really good. 666 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,880 This is the way this thing works. 667 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760 When you started stirring this up 668 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 and you started praying in the Holy Spirit 669 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,480 for an hour every morning. 670 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Every morning. 671 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Let's talk about deliverance. 672 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,120 Let's talk about, obviously as God is giving you things 673 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,720 to say, you have a radio station. 674 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,320 So that requires a lot of talking 675 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,640 and it's not a radio station that's music. 676 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,360 It's the word of God going forth. 677 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,200 That's right. 678 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,600 So you're talking about stirring up 679 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,240 the gift that is within you. 680 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,560 Yes. 681 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,000 Let's dive deeper into that 682 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,440 and how you've been training other people. 683 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,240 You've been, people have been grabbing ahold of this 684 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,720 and you're seeing more and more things happening 685 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,120 as people are stirring up the gifts. 686 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:04,960 Yes. 687 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,840 So, I don't know if we're gonna leapfrog here or anything, 688 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,640 but I understand that the doorway to the supernatural 689 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,040 is praying in the Holy Spirit. 690 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,120 I would say, I would read books 691 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,840 about supernatural things happening. 692 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,640 And I would just say, Lord, I want the gift of miracles. 693 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,680 I want this and I, Lord, I desire earnestly 694 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320 the spiritual gifts and all of these power gifts. 695 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,960 So I was desiring that. 696 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,600 I mean, I had the desire, but it wasn't happening. 697 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,080 I said, why isn't it happening, Lord? 698 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,920 I want it. 699 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,040 And he said, this is, you got to stir this up. 700 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,320 And when you stir this up, it activates all those nine gifts 701 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,800 and they come about in the need. 702 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,280 When you have need of them, the Holy Spirit knows 703 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,320 what you've done, what you need 704 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 and that the spiritual gift will operate. 705 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,400 I mean, there'll be time, listen here, 706 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,520 there'll be times that I was at work, you know, 707 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,160 witnessing to people. 708 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400 And I was witnessing to a man in my office. 709 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640 I had a big office there and had a couple of desks 710 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800 that other people could share because they worked for me 711 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,640 right there. 712 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,080 And I'm talking about the gospel. 713 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,960 And this guy was super intelligent. 714 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,520 You could tell he was very smart. 715 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880 And I didn't know how smart he was. 716 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,840 And I was sharing to him about the gospel 717 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,760 and the Holy Spirit quickened me. 718 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640 And he says, don't speak to him like that. 719 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120 He has an IQ of 120. 720 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,160 I knew exactly what that meant with the IQ scale. 721 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,680 So I scaled back the way I was speaking to him. 722 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,640 And I was, you know, people who are very intelligent, 723 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200 you cannot leave anything out. 724 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,920 It's this, this, and I talked about the gospel, 725 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,960 the Old Testament, the sacrifice and the blood 726 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,120 and taking away, you know, covering a sin and Jesus. 727 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440 And he needed every bit of that. 728 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,720 See, most people who have a just normal IQ, 729 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800 we can all fill in the blanks. 730 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,640 See what I mean? 731 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,800 This guy couldn't. 732 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,800 So, and I adjusted the way I was sharing the gospel with him. 733 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,440 And then a couple of days later, unbeknownst to him, 734 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,480 I said, let me ask you a question 735 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,040 with just a regular conversation. 736 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,240 I said, let me ask you a question. 737 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,280 I said, is your IQ 120? 738 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,080 He looked at me and he says, how did you know that? 739 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840 I said, I have ways of finding out. 740 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,680 You see, but I'm telling you that like a word of knowledge 741 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,760 in the moment you need it, that's what I was stirring up. 742 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,760 See, those kinds of things like that is how he does it. 743 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,200 And there was a lot of those, so many other things 744 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 that I was teaching that night about things like this. 745 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280 This is available to the body of Christ. 746 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,480 This is what we need operating. 747 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160 Now I'm not talking about being plugged in below 748 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,320 into some new age thing. 749 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,720 I'm talking about being plugged in 750 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,800 or being empowered by the Holy Spirit. 751 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,920 That's what I'm talking about. 752 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Well, I want to talk about that. 753 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Because you said you mentioned about plugged in below 754 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,680 versus plugged in above. 755 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,920 I think there's, as you look on YouTube, 756 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,600 as you look on social media now, 757 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,360 you're seeing a lot of things that look good, 758 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,360 that look innocent, manifesting people 759 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,800 that are just believing 760 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,960 and this whole power of positive thinking. 761 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,480 And there is biblical parts of that, 762 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,400 but it's also been manipulated. 763 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Brother, let's talk about discernment 764 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,200 and how you can look at these things 765 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520 and see what is God and what is not. 766 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,520 I love it because I did a teaching here. 767 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640 It was, I think, in June of last year, 23, 768 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480 and it's called Pentecost. 769 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,320 I do a conference. 770 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,320 The odd months of the year, one, three, five, whatever, 771 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,520 whatever the, I do the odd months of the year, 772 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,800 I do a conference at our church, a deliverance training. 773 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,120 They come from everywhere. 774 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640 Well, one of those was Pentecost. 775 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,120 And I taught the importance 776 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320 that if you're gonna operate in the gifts 777 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,960 of the Holy Spirit, the importance 778 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,200 of going through deliverance. 779 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,640 Now, let me share a moment to you this year. 780 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280 So I've taken a lot of people through deliverance. 781 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,320 I've learned a lot of things. 782 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,000 So I know of this one, I know these individuals, 783 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,320 these are pastors. 784 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040 And as I'm taking them through deliverance, 785 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,040 and because they do not struggle with having to believe 786 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,360 whether a Christian can have a spirit or not. 787 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,680 They know, they know there's something wrong with them. 788 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,600 You know, it's like there's pastors who battle pornography 789 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,600 and they preach holiness and they love God, 790 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,680 but this is an area of their life that is not 791 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,840 that something's there that they can't break. 792 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,920 And see, this is what deliverance does. 793 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,400 And the thing is for you to say that it's not there 794 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800 is to deny all the people I pray for. 795 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,400 So you can't help them. 796 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,280 So that's why they come to us so we can break 797 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,040 and call out that spirit of pornography 798 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,040 that's going to feed every two to three months. 799 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,640 I think it's gonna feed. 800 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,760 And it's gonna break down that barrier you got. 801 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120 You're gonna mess up and you're gonna repent. 802 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,400 And about two or three months, it's gonna happen again. 803 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 We'll see, that's what deliverance does. 804 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,000 Deliverance reaches in, calls that thing out. 805 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,880 Now you can not have, it's being on the outside, 806 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,560 it's not on the inside. 807 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,520 And you can resist it. 808 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800 You can't resist what's on the inside. 809 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,040 You can resist only what's on the outside. 810 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,000 So you can only push down what's on the inside. 811 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,120 So I would pray for them like pornography, 812 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,960 let's stay with the gifts. 813 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,280 This one here was prophecy. 814 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,600 This guy, man, he can prophesy. 815 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,520 And all of a sudden, as I'm taking him through deliverance, 816 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,680 a spirit comes up of divination. 817 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,560 And I said, who are you? 818 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,880 He said, I'm divination. 819 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,120 I said, well, I made him renounce, let's call. 820 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080 He says, no, he needs me. 821 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,920 And I said, no, I don't need you, get out of me. 822 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,320 And that spirit of divination came out. 823 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,760 So here's what's happening. 824 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,600 It's because people do not submit to deliverance. 825 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,640 It's what happens is that operating in the spirit of God, 826 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,000 in the true gift of God, then all of a sudden, here we go, 827 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,800 they shift into something that's not holy. 828 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,240 You see this thing moves in and out like that. 829 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:12,600 This is the way this thing here works. 830 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,240 And I'm telling you, the way Pastor Henry did it, 831 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:17,680 I said, who took him through deliverance? 832 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,720 Who, tell me who took him through deliverance? 833 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:21,040 Have they been through deliverance? 834 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,320 And if they say, well, I said, well, how long? 835 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,160 Oh, about 10 minutes. 836 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,360 I said, no, I ain't listening to none of that. 837 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,360 Because the enemy knows how to get into the gifts 838 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,680 of the Holy Spirit functioning in things like this here. 839 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,400 So, the Bible talks about how that sweet water and bitter, 840 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,200 how can it come out of the same fountain? 841 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,600 It's not saying that it's impossible. 842 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,440 He's saying that if sweet water or bitter comes out 843 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,280 of the same fountain, something's wrong with the fountain. 844 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120 That's what he's trying to teach. 845 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,280 That's what he's trying to teach. 846 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,560 So, clean out the fountain. 847 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,080 And this is what deliverance does. 848 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920 So, that's prophecy, that's gifts of the Holy Spirit, 849 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,920 and things like that. 850 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680 Everyone needs to go through deliverance, 851 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,360 especially if you operate in, of course, baptism 852 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,280 and Holy Ghost speaking and going through deliverance. 853 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,360 So, here's what I wanna share with you 854 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640 about having the conference. 855 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,400 So, we had one in June, I think it was, 856 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,600 or May or June of last year. 857 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,560 And so, there's people, we have 100 people here. 858 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,960 And now, this is not during the church service. 859 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,280 I'm teaching Friday. 860 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,880 I'm teaching about the need for deliverance. 861 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,400 I'm teaching deliverance. 862 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,840 I'm talking about how you gotta get this stuff out of you 863 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,320 and that if you're gonna do deliverance, 864 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,440 you need to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. 865 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,240 And at the end, that, and during Saturday, 866 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,520 okay, let's stop right now. 867 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,760 Everybody who wants to receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost 868 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,680 come to the front. 869 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,120 65 people come to the front. 870 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,680 No music, none of this here, that's none of that. 871 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,640 I said, raise your hands to heaven and say, 872 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 Lord, I wanna receive the baptism of the Holy Ghost, 873 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,600 evidence of speaking. 874 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920 These people had never received the Holy Spirit. 875 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,920 65 people at one time received the baptism of the Holy Ghost. 876 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,920 I just came from Tennessee. 877 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,480 You may, it's like double digits or minus wind chill. 878 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,840 We're up there, people come from Canada everywhere. 879 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,880 Little small church. 880 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,680 I'm taking, training 50, 60 people. 881 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,280 And on Sunday morning, I said, 882 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,520 how many wanna receive the Holy Spirit? 883 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,840 And have never prayed and never spoke in tongues. 884 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,440 It's like 20 people walked to the front. 885 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,000 I said, raise your hands to heaven. 886 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,680 And now they done went through deliverance. 887 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,000 See, they done went through deliverance. 888 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,280 They've been trained. 889 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,600 And we pray for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 890 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,920 20 people at one time. 891 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,080 This church is a man that's gonna do this here. 892 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,120 And they're Pentecostal. 893 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,880 They won't have nobody a whole year, 894 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,600 baptizing the Holy Ghost. 895 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,880 See, this, if you will get 896 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,160 and take people through deliverance first, 897 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,000 get the bad stuff out of them. 898 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,960 I'm not talking about they're not saved. 899 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,560 They've got stuff in them that's resisting. 900 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,760 And get that out of them, 901 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,720 they easily receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. 902 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,400 But they gotta be, and these people are hungry for it. 903 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600 You know, how can people, people were saying, 904 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,640 well, we need to cancel the conference 905 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,960 that's going on in Tennessee. 906 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,360 And I said, no, there are people flying in from Canada. 907 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,120 They don't care how cold it is. 908 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,000 They're coming, they wanna be trained. 909 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,960 They wanna know more about what's going on. 910 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,920 Have I got off track here? 911 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480 Oh no, brother, you're right on track. 912 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,440 We're heading to the right destination for sure. 913 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,840 So that's what needs to happen. 914 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,560 That you gotta be hungry for it, 915 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,160 but everybody needs to go through deliverance. 916 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560 And when I watch that on YouTube, I'm going, 917 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,400 that ain't right. 918 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,600 That ain't right. 919 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,160 That's not the Holy Spirit. 920 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,480 I said, that's another spirit. 921 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,120 And the thing is, is because you gotta realize, 922 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,000 I'm in my sixties and you got, listen, 923 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,160 you got people who were in their twenties and thirties 924 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,960 and they're teaching you, they still novice. 925 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,480 I'm just saying they're just novice. 926 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680 I look back and I go, that's new age. 927 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,240 You say, you know, I just didn't fall off. 928 00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,280 I just didn't come out of this. 929 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,520 You understand what I'm getting at? 930 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 931 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,480 And a lot of people can see it. 932 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,440 They can see it as well. 933 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,240 So that's just because, the word is to be cautious, 934 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:08,840 don't believe every spirit. 935 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,120 And everyone needs to go through deliverance, 936 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,960 a level of deliverance in that. 937 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,080 Yeah. 938 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,080 So yeah, there's so much out there that is the counterfeit, 939 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,840 but that means if there's a counterfeit, 940 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,560 then there's a real as well. 941 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,280 And so, you know, Pastor Henry, 942 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440 let's talk more about the real, 943 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160 because you had a real encounter with the Lord. 944 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,080 And I don't think we talked about that in this recording. 945 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,680 We talked about that before we started recording, 946 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480 where you had an encounter with the Lord. 947 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Let's talk about the real deal. 948 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,760 Oh yeah, as far as like being called to ministry. 949 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,600 Yeah, yeah. 950 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,440 Yeah, yeah. 951 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,120 So, I mean, I was in my twenties 952 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,800 and I was seeking the Lord because, you know, 953 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,640 I was struggling about the call to ministry. 954 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,680 And I said, I can't do this just based off, you know, 955 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,960 I just hear Lord an unction, 956 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,480 you're telling me this here. 957 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,800 And I really got serious, started seeking the Lord. 958 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,680 And as I told you in the past that, 959 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,040 that night when I went to sleep, 960 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,840 and I can tell you whether it was a dream, 961 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,680 and when Paul says, I don't know if I was in my body 962 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,240 or out of my body, but I was taken up to the third heaven. 963 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:24,720 And I understand that because for simplicity of you saying, 964 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:25,560 what, I don't believe in that. 965 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,120 Well, let's just call it a dream then, 966 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,720 but it was more than that. 967 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:33,120 And actually what happened is that I was standing 968 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,400 on the side of a grassy knoll. 969 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,240 It was sunshiny day. 970 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,120 And my mom was out there with me 971 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,840 and it was beautiful day out there. 972 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,360 And all of a sudden she pointed and pointed up to the sky. 973 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,840 And she says, look, I looked up in the sky 974 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,640 and I saw the Lord in the sky standing in the clouds. 975 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,360 And I started running towards that. 976 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,800 And then all of a sudden I remember the teaching 977 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,120 that when Jesus comes, it will take faith to go up. 978 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,640 It's gonna take faith. 979 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,920 And I said, I believe in right when I did it, 980 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,080 I released off the ground. 981 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,480 I was this crazy, but I started going up into the sky. 982 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,520 And as I started going up into the sky, I got way high. 983 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,000 And I did my arms like this, took my eyes off the Lord. 984 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,520 And I looked at my arm. 985 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,160 I said, look what I'm doing. 986 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,800 And then all of a sudden I realized, 987 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,640 oh, that's not a good thing. 988 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,000 I started falling back down, but I looked way out 989 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,000 and there was a huge skyscraper that he had went in. 990 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,320 And windows had opened, he went right in. 991 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,280 And I came across and went right into the same window. 992 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320 When I walked in, I just stepped in, 993 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,960 there was a huge hallway. 994 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,920 And there was people walking back and forth, 995 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,920 left and right. 996 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,800 And he was standing right in the middle. 997 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,400 And they were bumping into him. 998 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,280 And he was just standing there. 999 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,120 And I wanted to go to him so bad. 1000 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,520 I mean, I knew who he was, they didn't. 1001 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,280 And he says, they don't know who I am. 1002 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,920 He says, but you'll be the one who tells them who I am. 1003 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,080 And immediately that moment I woke up 1004 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,600 or came back to myself and I went, oh my God. 1005 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,600 I mean, it was like I was there. 1006 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,920 And I didn't tell my wife right off the bat. 1007 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,320 I told her like, no, later on that day. 1008 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,440 And I said, I gotta tell you something that happened. 1009 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,720 And then I told her, she said, oh, we gotta tell the pastor. 1010 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,800 So I told the pastor where I went to church at there. 1011 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,960 I was shared with him what had happened. 1012 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960 And he looked at me and he says, this happened to you? 1013 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,200 I go, yes, sir. 1014 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,480 And so there are people who believe in a theophany. 1015 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,960 I didn't know what it was. 1016 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,320 And in that you're called into a five-fold office 1017 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,280 through a direct call from Jesus. 1018 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,240 And I didn't know what all that meant and everything. 1019 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,320 So that's what happened to me. 1020 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,280 And from that moment on, everything that I do, 1021 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,760 it's like, I just do what he tells me to do. 1022 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,960 And it worked. 1023 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,880 Not that I don't have, bro, I've had some bad, 1024 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880 I've had some struggles, but it's because, 1025 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,880 and I know my calling. 1026 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,840 So not everybody's call is gonna be like that. 1027 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,040 But if the Lord has called you, 1028 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,280 then seek the Lord walking the calling that you've heard, 1029 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,920 heard his voice and God will vindicate your call 1030 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,360 into ministry. 1031 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,160 Not everybody who takes a platform's call of the Lord, 1032 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,360 many of our mama call, papa call, 1033 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,400 their call of themselves. 1034 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,520 And I wasn't called to myself. 1035 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,560 I didn't wanna do it. 1036 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,720 Just doing this interview, I go, 1037 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,000 God has to make me do it 1038 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,160 because I don't wanna promote myself. 1039 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,000 You know what I mean? 1040 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,480 But I wanna tell you about him. 1041 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,080 He's the one that does it all. 1042 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,400 Jesus does. 1043 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,920 I wanna thank you for sharing more in depth 1044 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,040 about that encounter with the Lord. 1045 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,880 And God's used you to help other people 1046 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920 encounter the Lord in a powerful way. 1047 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,320 And one of those people has been Pastor Greg Locke, 1048 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,400 who's one of our authors here at Charisma. 1049 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,280 And he went from being a cessationist 1050 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,680 to being a continuationist 1051 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,840 because he had some things that he encountered 1052 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,280 that he could not explain beyond just, 1053 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,920 God is still alive today. 1054 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,480 God is, the Holy Spirit is moving. 1055 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,800 And God used you to help him a lot 1056 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,360 and to help him kind of figure this stuff out. 1057 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,320 Can you talk a little bit about that experience 1058 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,640 and your connection with him? 1059 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,920 Yes, because I like to take it back, 1060 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960 if you let me take it back. 1061 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,800 Remember the radio station? 1062 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,760 And so God, all of this here 1063 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,320 is God setting up his plans for the future. 1064 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,560 And at the, I don't wanna get political here, 1065 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,280 but at the end of the, was it 2020 election, 1066 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,800 is the Lord spoke to me and he told me, 1067 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,800 he said, here's what I want you to do. 1068 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,600 He said, take the resource I gave you 1069 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520 and I want you to broadcast the truth of what happened. 1070 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,840 So, and so what I did is I connected with 1071 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,160 Clay Clark Reopen America Tour. 1072 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,760 I don't know if you know them or not, 1073 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,720 but okay, so behind the scenes, I was radio. 1074 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,200 Now this is FCC license. 1075 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,120 This is not internet radio. 1076 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,920 This is FCC license and we do broadcast on the web as well, 1077 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,080 but it's a real FCC license. 1078 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,400 So it's real media. 1079 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,800 It's the real deal, y'all. 1080 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,720 You know what I mean? 1081 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:17,480 So I connect with them and they allow me 1082 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,800 to interview all of these people. 1083 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,800 I mean, Roger Stone, Mike Lindell, 1084 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480 all of these people and their Christian experience. 1085 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,440 So we would go and we would broadcast 1086 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,600 about their Christian experiences 1087 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,440 and how that good people need to get involved 1088 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,520 in our country. 1089 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,960 That's pretty much what it was all about. 1090 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,960 And in that, I got on, I would see Greg Locke, 1091 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,760 but you know, he was a passion. 1092 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,320 I knew his badness. 1093 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,400 I knew he was badness, but it didn't matter to me. 1094 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,160 At that point, it is good people need to get involved 1095 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,000 in our country. 1096 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,280 I don't care what you believe. 1097 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,760 And that was it. 1098 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,560 And so I had met him. 1099 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,120 We'd only talked very briefly. 1100 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,880 You and I have talked more than I had talked with him 1101 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,840 until that point already. 1102 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,880 You know what I mean? 1103 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480 And I think I interviewed him one time 1104 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,840 and you know, he had a great following 1105 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,760 and all of that. 1106 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,800 And then I asked him to come to the church. 1107 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,280 I got him on television here at WBPI. 1108 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,160 I come in and he was doing a book thing. 1109 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,880 I said, come on in, do your book thing there on television. 1110 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,240 We had a little conference we did here. 1111 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:28,280 I said, come by the church and I says, and do your spiel. 1112 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040 I mean, do your, everybody needs to get involved. 1113 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,160 So he comes to the church. 1114 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,800 We had a full church that night on a Friday 1115 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,840 and I let him do his whole thing. 1116 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,000 I do not get involved. 1117 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,280 I don't even go to the front. 1118 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,760 It's all, this is all Greg Locke 1119 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,760 and our ministry there, Global Vision. 1120 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,560 And so at the end of that, I'm in the foyer 1121 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,840 as I'm standing in the foyer, the Lord spoke to me 1122 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,320 and he says, take Greg Locke in your office 1123 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,240 and talk to him about deliverance. 1124 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,280 I said, he don't even believe, he don't even believe, 1125 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,560 he don't even believe in none of this. 1126 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,120 He says, take him in your office. 1127 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640 So I said, Greg, I said, can I meet with you just a moment? 1128 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,080 So I took him in my office and I sat down 1129 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,960 and I started talking with him. 1130 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,640 And here's what I told him. 1131 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,720 I said, I explained to him about the man's arms and legs 1132 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,640 and the things that I had seen. 1133 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,760 And here's what I told him. 1134 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,960 I said, Greg, I said, God wants to bring 1135 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,600 a different kind of freedom to his people through you, 1136 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,320 other than the freedom we're talking about in the country. 1137 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,440 He wants to bring a different kind of freedom 1138 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,760 and it's the freedom of deliverance. 1139 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,840 He wants to use you to do it. 1140 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,920 And I started sharing with him about the things 1141 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,480 that I had seen. 1142 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,200 And then I also told him that when I came back 1143 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,600 from seeing this happen with this man's arms and legs, 1144 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,280 God spoke to me, John, at the altar, at the church there, 1145 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,520 as I was seeking the Lord when I came back. 1146 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,360 And here's what he told me. 1147 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,320 He says, take your front row out. 1148 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,560 He said, I'm gonna fill it with wheelchairs. 1149 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,960 And he says, I'm just telling you what he said, bro. 1150 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,440 I'm telling Greg like this. 1151 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,280 I'm just telling you. 1152 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,480 I said, here's what he said, take your front row out. 1153 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,720 We're gonna fill it with wheelchairs. 1154 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,440 And when they come, you're not gonna have to worry 1155 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,360 about whether the power of God's gonna be here. 1156 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,720 He said, it'll be here. 1157 00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:13,400 Just do what I tell you to do. 1158 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,640 And then he goes on to tell me 1159 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,640 what the Lord said he's going to do. 1160 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,200 And he said, I'd send people from all over 1161 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,720 the United States here for deliverance. 1162 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,720 And I said, Greg, I said, this is what God wants to do, 1163 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:28,520 is to bring you to that level there. 1164 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,640 And he stopped. 1165 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,600 I talked about 45 minutes with him, 1166 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,360 maybe 40, 45 minutes. 1167 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,960 He just listened. 1168 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,680 And at the end of that, he stood up and he says, 1169 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,400 pastor, he said, this is what I've been waiting to hear, 1170 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,600 right here. 1171 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,200 And he walked out of the door 1172 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,560 and somebody had given him a couple of books we had there 1173 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,960 about deliverance. 1174 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,440 And I thought I would never hear from him again. 1175 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,480 I said, this is it. 1176 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,680 He'll never hear, I'll never hear nothing from him again. 1177 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,040 So he leaves, that was 21 December of 21. 1178 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,040 And he goes out of the church. 1179 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,360 He goes back to Global Vision. 1180 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,280 He starts preaching deliverance. 1181 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,480 Now he's Baptist, cessation, as you heard that. 1182 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,360 And he's teaching and preaching all of this. 1183 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,280 Demons are manifesting. 1184 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,960 They're screaming, they're coming out. 1185 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,600 He's seeing all kinds of miracles happen and everything. 1186 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,600 And he calls me, I think it's February of 22, 1187 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,200 after this thing had broke out, 1188 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,680 he says, pastor, you've got to come. 1189 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,960 You gotta come to Global Vision. 1190 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,640 You gotta come, we gotta talk. 1191 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,440 So Sister Schaefer and I, we left church after that Sunday. 1192 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,600 We drove, it's like five or six hours. 1193 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,520 No, seven hours we get there to Mount Juliet, Tennessee. 1194 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,440 And we met with his staff and we met there 1195 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,720 probably about three hours. 1196 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,240 And I just shared about deliverance 1197 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,760 and the things that we have seen in deliverance. 1198 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,800 And I told Greg Locke this year, 1199 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,280 because you gotta realize this is the only time 1200 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,000 that you're gonna be, that I don't know, 1201 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,080 before people get to them, 1202 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,080 they're telling them that this isn't real. 1203 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,920 See what I mean? 1204 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,480 They're gonna tell them it's not real. 1205 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,400 And I said, Greg, you know, 1206 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,320 just like you miss deliverance, being real, 1207 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,240 and Christians having demons and all of that, 1208 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,240 I said, something else you miss too. 1209 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,960 I said, it's the baptism of the Holy Ghost 1210 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,320 speaking in tongues. 1211 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,520 I said, it's real as well. 1212 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,560 And I said, if you're gonna operate 1213 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,560 in the ministry of deliverance, 1214 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,600 this is what you need to continue on 1215 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,520 and making that happen. 1216 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,320 He says, I want everything that God has for me. 1217 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,480 And we left from there that evening, 1218 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,560 and we go back to his church, to the compound there, 1219 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,600 and we pray with him and his wife and some others there 1220 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,920 to about two or three o'clock in the morning. 1221 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,400 And in the morning time, 1222 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,480 that morning, I don't know, two or three o'clock, 1223 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,120 I don't know, you can cut this anywhere 1224 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,640 you think is appropriate, 1225 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,080 but he and Ty was sitting there in his office. 1226 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,480 One had one hand raised, one had the other hand raised, 1227 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,880 and they was holding hands. 1228 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,120 And I just laid hands on them. 1229 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,520 I said, received the Holy Spirit 1230 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,040 with the evidence of speaking in tongues. 1231 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,040 And both of them started the baptism of the Holy Ghost. 1232 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,760 That was their experience. 1233 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,160 They received what the first century apostles did. 1234 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,960 And that sets them up for the supernatural 1235 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,600 because before that, I wanna just share with you 1236 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,440 what's happening here is that Jesus had told his disciples, 1237 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,800 you can operate in my authority. 1238 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,960 And when Jesus ascended to heaven, he says, 1239 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,960 now, don't go anywhere and try to cast out any demons 1240 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,240 or do anything I told y'all to do 1241 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,320 until you go to the upper room and you will receive power. 1242 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,560 So that power comes in in the baptism of the Holy Spirit. 1243 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,880 When you operate in authority 1244 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,800 with the power of the Holy Spirit, 1245 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000 that is where you are engaged 1246 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,320 to be able to engage the enemy. 1247 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,000 And I had to make sure that I told him that. 1248 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,000 And then God sending someone, me, 1249 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,960 that would have to express that. 1250 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,440 And not only that, John, I will tell you 1251 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,600 that there are people who, they come from everywhere 1252 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,720 for me to pray for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 1253 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:13,480 It just happens. 1254 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,280 So God sent that to make it happen. 1255 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,520 It had to happen that night. 1256 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,720 Did that make sense? 1257 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:23,640 For that ministry to go on with it. 1258 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,160 And from then on, everything happened from there. 1259 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,800 The church exploded. 1260 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,160 People started coming from all over the place 1261 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,560 for global vision. 1262 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,880 And I mean, that's a story within itself. 1263 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,160 I mean, it's like flipping an entire church 1264 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,680 or a whole thousands of people. 1265 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,120 I'm gonna tell you what the Lord told me 1266 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,600 when deliverance came to the church. 1267 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,160 He says, don't say what you're doing 1268 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,400 is small or insignificant. 1269 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,600 He said, this is bigger than you can imagine. 1270 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,320 That's what he told me. 1271 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,280 Because you've got to realize in 2015, 1272 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,880 when deliverance started, it started there at the church. 1273 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,720 And it was pandemonium that broke out January 1 of 2015. 1274 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,440 When I went to church that morning, 1275 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,280 I preached a message about if you're here 1276 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,280 and you're battling things 1277 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,080 and you've messed up like Adam and Eve did, 1278 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,080 and they stood there with their fig leaves covering 1279 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,640 what they had done, their sin, 1280 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,520 is that you've got to confess like Adam and Eve did 1281 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640 and say, Lord, I'm having problems. 1282 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,560 And I preached like a 20 minute message. 1283 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,680 And I said, if you're here 1284 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,400 and you're battling some areas in your life, 1285 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,400 you've got to come to the Lord 1286 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,000 and you got to tell him I'm battling some things. 1287 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,280 And if you will, he'll set you free from them. 1288 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,800 So that morning, January 1 of 2015, 1289 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,280 or I think it was actually the third, 1290 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,600 that was the first Sunday, 1291 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,080 what happens is I make that message call, 1292 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,960 they came to the front. 1293 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,520 Five people came to the front. 1294 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,800 When they did, I look there, 1295 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,120 traditional church of God, 1296 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,360 traditional church choir behind me, 1297 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,240 and I'm standing there and I'm looking at these five people. 1298 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,120 And I said, Lord, who do I pray for first? 1299 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,480 And at the end, there's a woman 1300 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,840 and her face is moving like that. 1301 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,400 Her face is moving. 1302 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,920 I said, well, God, I guess I know which one 1303 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,200 I need to pray for first. 1304 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,000 And I guess I'm gonna be the only one to do it. 1305 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,880 So I stepped up to her. 1306 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,440 I said, ma'am, what is your problem? 1307 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,360 She says, pastor, I'm battling anger. 1308 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,760 I said, well, that's not a problem. 1309 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,360 I said, Jesus, I set you free from that spirit of anger. 1310 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,360 I said, say this here, say I don't want anger no more. 1311 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,080 So she says, I don't want anger. 1312 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,600 And I said, come on up here, anger. 1313 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,640 I said, come on up here, anger. 1314 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,400 And it says, no. 1315 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,960 It came out of her voice, brother, loud. 1316 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,320 No, she's mine. 1317 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,960 I've had her for years. 1318 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,760 The hair on top of my head stood up. 1319 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,640 This is in church, man. 1320 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,520 Hair on top of my head stood up. 1321 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,240 I walked to the end of the, 1322 00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:58,560 you know, the people who were standing there. 1323 00:53:58,560 --> 00:53:59,800 And I looked at the congregation. 1324 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,960 I said, grab your babies, grab your Bibles, 1325 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,880 grab your books, leave the sanctuary now. 1326 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,760 All these people jumped up and they ran out 1327 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,000 of the sanctuary. 1328 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,520 And when they ran out, 1329 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,160 and unless you're gonna stay back here to help me pray. 1330 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,640 And I had like a 10 or 15 people stay back 1331 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,560 help me pray for these five people. 1332 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,800 And I looked back at the doors of the church. 1333 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,720 You have windows about this wide, 1334 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,920 so you'd walk through the door, you don't hit somebody. 1335 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,680 So they had glasses and windows like that. 1336 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,280 All I could see was eyes looking through the door. 1337 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,160 They wanted to know what was going on in that room. 1338 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,720 So we prayed with them for the next, 1339 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:37,760 oh, I don't know, to three or four hours. 1340 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,960 We prayed for them, 1341 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,720 casting demons out of five people there. 1342 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:45,320 But on another note is that, 1343 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,640 see the Lord, you talked about radio. 1344 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080 I say what the Lord told me to do was, 1345 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,800 he built the radio station and he told me, he says, 1346 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,760 now what I want you to do is put your services 1347 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,920 live on the radio. 1348 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,280 So I want you to think of what I just told you. 1349 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,040 We're not recording something on the radio, it's live. 1350 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,240 So what's happening live, 1351 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:09,280 they're listening in their cars. 1352 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,840 And I've had people drive in when I gave the altar call 1353 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,600 and walk in the door, give the heart to the Lord, live. 1354 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,000 You understand what I'm saying? 1355 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,920 It's not recorded. 1356 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,400 See, I want you to put your stuff on there. 1357 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,760 So that morning I am broadcasting with all them screaming, 1358 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,800 demons coming out live over the radio. 1359 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,080 I didn't have time to disconnect it. 1360 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,520 For the next three or four hours, 1361 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,160 they're hearing all this screaming going on 1362 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,600 in the sanctuary, come out in the name of Jesus, come out. 1363 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,120 And there's people who finally came to the church. 1364 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,520 They said, we were out of our church. 1365 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,360 We had the radio on and we were glued to the radio. 1366 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,920 It was like listening to war of the worlds. 1367 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,880 And we were listening to the radio and they came in. 1368 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,800 So those are the kinds of things 1369 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,080 that when deliverance happened at our church, 1370 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,840 same thing starts to happen up at Global Vision. 1371 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,080 People start, comes from everywhere. 1372 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,080 And all kinds of manifestations of demons, deliverance, 1373 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,840 all of those kinds of things are happening. 1374 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,680 But not only with that, miracles happens as well. 1375 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,960 So this is a deliverance. 1376 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,640 Deliverance is the end time spearhead 1377 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:17,840 of the end time revival. 1378 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,800 This is it. 1379 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,240 And if you miss deliverance and you take, 1380 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:25,360 you think that this is something small nor insignificant, 1381 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,000 that you don't realize that God is cleaning up the bride 1382 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,880 first, the bride recognizes she's got problems 1383 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,800 and that things are not coming out of the bride. 1384 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,360 And God's gonna deliver the bride. 1385 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,440 It's Joel in Joel 2.32. 1386 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,920 And there shall be deliverance in Mount Zion 1387 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,600 and in Jerusalem and in the remnant 1388 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,160 whom the Lord shall call. 1389 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,320 So the remnant recognizes that she's got some things 1390 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,760 she needs to get out. 1391 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,200 So the church gets it first and gets cleaned up. 1392 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,400 And when the harvest comes, the harvest is coming in 1393 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,680 with much of the same things that the remnant's got or had. 1394 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,800 And the church will be equipped to help deliver 1395 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,640 the harvest when they come in 1396 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,960 because they went through deliverance themselves. 1397 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,680 And so that I believe that's the spearhead 1398 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,320 of the end time revival that you're seeing everywhere. 1399 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,520 Amen, amen. 1400 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,520 Brother, I could talk with you and listen to you for hours 1401 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,040 and I might just have to do another interview 1402 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,320 just to make sure that that happens. 1403 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,720 But before we wrap up here, 1404 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,040 would you just pray for the people that are watching this 1405 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,560 and pray for the people that are listening, 1406 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,520 that they would have that encounter 1407 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:42,440 and really have that real experience with the Holy Spirit, 1408 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,400 that real infilling of the Holy Spirit 1409 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,080 or however else that the Lord is leading you. 1410 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,560 But I just feel like there's people that are so caught up 1411 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,160 in the wow factor that they're missing the real 1412 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,240 and they're looking for the special effects 1413 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,360 instead of what's real. 1414 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,200 You know, there's two passages of scripture. 1415 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,880 It's a Hosea 4-6, most people know this. 1416 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,280 It says, my people perish, my people die, 1417 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,080 my people perish for or destroyed for lack of knowledge. 1418 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,480 And then the Lord started telling me, 1419 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,360 he said, no, it's more than that. 1420 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,000 It's a Hosea 5-13 1421 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,000 and most people don't know this scripture here. 1422 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,520 And it says, my people go into captivity 1423 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,640 for lack of knowledge. 1424 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,280 One, they're destroyed, the other one, 1425 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,520 the church is in captivity and they don't even realize it. 1426 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,520 So there is a spirit that's in the world of mind control 1427 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,680 and mind control is control of the church 1428 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,640 and many people in the church. 1429 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,800 They know there's something's not right, 1430 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,520 but they don't know how to get past it. 1431 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,760 And here's what I'm gonna share with you. 1432 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,120 If you're struggling in your walk, 1433 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,880 knowing that there's more, 1434 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,040 there is a demonic assignment to stop you 1435 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,920 from operating in the gifts of the Holy Spirit 1436 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,400 and your destiny that God has for you. 1437 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,680 See that word like debt, 1438 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,240 those are key words that people that are speakers, 1439 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,360 they just know, if I use the word destiny, calling, 1440 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,800 these are things that attract people. 1441 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,880 But I want you to know is that, 1442 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,120 here's the thing is that Satan has an assignment. 1443 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,240 The first assignment against you 1444 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,160 is to keep you from knowing Jesus. 1445 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,600 If he fails in that assignment, 1446 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,320 he has a secondary assignment 1447 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,480 and it's to keep you from fulfilling your calling 1448 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,720 and stand between you and what God has for you. 1449 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,800 So what I want to, if I could instruct someone 1450 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,800 is that you need to make sure that deliverance, 1451 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,240 if there's anything in your life that is hindering, 1452 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,360 that don't just think it's something on the outside, 1453 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,520 but deliverance is for you. 1454 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,080 And that deliverance came at a cost 1455 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,600 and Jesus died for your deliverance. 1456 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,680 He paid for the penalty of your sin, 1457 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,680 but he also defeated the enemy that he must let you go 1458 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,120 in life and the ministry of deliverance 1459 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,040 is delegated to the church that he gave. 1460 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,080 See, we can't pay for your sin, Jesus did that, 1461 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,240 but he gave the ministry of deliverance 1462 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,640 to the church. 1463 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,800 So my job is to instruct you that there are things 1464 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,360 that will stand between you and your destiny 1465 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,440 and it's a demonic assignment. 1466 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,760 So I'm gonna pray that you can understand 1467 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,720 the ministry of deliverance, reach out, 1468 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,320 seek your deliverance, you can walk in the spirit 1469 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,560 and the fullness that God has for you 1470 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,200 and that God can show you and direct you 1471 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,560 where you need to be at in life. 1472 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,720 Is that all right, John? 1473 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,480 Father, we love you, thank you for today, 1474 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,720 thank you for your blessing. 1475 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,320 Lord, I thank you for this opportunity to come together 1476 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,320 with John and just share of your goodness 1477 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:05,120 and Lord of the supernatural that you have used in my life, 1478 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,960 Jesus Christ receives all glory and honor. 1479 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,880 Father, we pray that we have represented 1480 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,200 the kingdom of God well here in this discussion today. 1481 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,760 Lord, I pray for the people who's gonna maybe listen 1482 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:21,720 to this or see this here, that there's a connection 1483 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,680 in your heart right now saying, God, I know there's more 1484 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,040 and this is it. 1485 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,880 I pray, Father, that they would hear the words, 1486 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,600 stir up the gift of the Holy Ghost that God has given you, 1487 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,320 pray in the spirit and Lord, that they would start 1488 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,520 to activate that supernatural that's in them 1489 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,200 and Father, those who are in bondage 1490 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,560 to an area of their life, we come against it. 1491 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,840 We bind the strong man in every person 1492 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,600 that's gonna listen to this. 1493 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,640 We bind the strong man and we say that you have no authority. 1494 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,120 Father, in Jesus' name, I pray that they would seek 1495 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,400 their deliverance, you would lead them to a well 1496 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,920 and a hope and a ministry of deliverance, 1497 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,840 that they could be free so they can move forward in life. 1498 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,040 Lord, I'm looking for great things in the kingdom of God. 1499 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,480 Lord, I know that your word tells us, 1500 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,640 great end time harvest is coming. 1501 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,920 Help me, Lord, to build up an army 1502 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,080 of supernatural deliverance ministries 1503 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,680 that are ready to take the kingdom of the enemy 1504 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,240 away from what they have done and take new territory in life. 1505 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,840 I thank you, Lord, what you're gonna do with these people. 1506 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:50,840 In Jesus' name we pray, amen.