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Second to I look to my left and below me in the distance is the rider on the white horse.

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All the horses are staggered.

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So no matter where you are in this retinue, you can see the rider on the white horse.

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Something that people that are involved in new age and they open themselves up to these

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interactions in a lot more ways than people realize.

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And I know that you in your previous life, not a reincarnation thing, but before you

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met Jesus, before your life was changed, you were involved in that.

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And you talked earlier in our previous conversation that you knew about astral projection.

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And that's something that a lot of people just don't understand.

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I recently watched a YouTube video of a pastor friend of mine sharing that he does a lot

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of work in the Amazon jungle and rescuing children.

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He said that there was a shaman that showed up in his bedroom and only lasted a few seconds,

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but he recognized that person.

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And it's just definitely something that has made me want to ask questions.

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And I know that since I have you here, I'd like to hear about that.

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And if there's a false, if there's a fake thing that the devil is using, then there's

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normally like God has an original design for something that has just been manipulated by

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the devil.

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So I just like to hear about your understanding of astral projection and things like that.

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Well, the astral projection that you're talking about, that shamans and wish-talkers and medicine

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men, they all go to the same place.

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They get their power from the second heaven.

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They get their power from the dragon.

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It's an occult technique and they learn how to use it.

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We are forbidden to do that.

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People with familiar spirits sometimes will ask to project.

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In my previous incarnation of a new age, I did ask to project.

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Some people also call it lucid dreaming.

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As a Christian, I had several instances where I was lucid dreaming and I shut it down.

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While I was lucid dreaming, I said, Lord, if this isn't from you, in Jesus' name, let's

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stop this right now.

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Just like that, gone.

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It's very pleasurable because you're flying and you're flying through rooms and walls

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and everything else because we're spirits, soul and body, and what leaves is your spirit.

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But that's not supposed to happen.

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Now if God takes us out and shows us something, that's a whole different deal.

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I've been taken twice, but I was fully awake.

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I wasn't asleep and I wasn't trying to do anything.

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The Lord just took me once in Revelation 19 where the armies of heaven are riding down

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with the rider on the white horse as Jesus.

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I was a brand new Christian.

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I had no idea where I was, what I was looking at or anything else.

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And it's Revelation 19.

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Forbade him.

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I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse whose rider is faithful

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and true.

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With justice he judges and make war.

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His eyes are like flaming fire.

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On his head as many crowns he's, you know, I don't know how it goes.

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I could do the rest of the thing.

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The armies of heaven rode with him on white horses.

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So I'm there for three seconds.

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Second one, I'm holding the horse.

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There's no bridle.

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I'm on this horse.

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I don't like horses.

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I'm holding onto the horse's mane with both hands and I'm riding like this, sort of leaning

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forward, holding the horse's mane.

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And I instantly got the feeling, you know, a lot happens in three seconds, instantly

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got the feeling that this horse would never let me fall and that I could communicate with

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That didn't happen.

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But all that hit me second one.

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Second two, I looked to my left and below me in the distance is the rider on the white

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All the horses are staggered.

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So no matter where you are in this retinue, you can see the rider on the white horse.

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And it's not like this.

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It's not a flat plane like you would think of because we're flying.

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The armies of heaven are stacked like floors in an apartment building.

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So we're in a horseshoe shape, right?

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And the rider on the white horse is here and the armies of heaven, these dead center, we

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can all see them because all the horses are staggered because this is the deal.

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I'm up on the right flank about eight rows back.

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So it's second one, second two, second three.

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up there, really big guys.

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And then I'm back and I'm going like, what was that?

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That's when the Lord takes us and does something.

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I'm not initiating it.

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I'm not looking for it.

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It's a gift.

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But the shaman, because first of all, to become a shaman, and I got this from a Navajo elder

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who became a pastor and he was studying to become a shaman, studying to become medicine

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man.

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And in order to get the power, you have to kill a family member.

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That's how you get the power.

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You have to kill a family.

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What a wonderful man.

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What a wonderful testimony.

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Just filled with the peace of the Lord and the goodness of the Lord.

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I mean, he's a human like the rest of us.

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So that's what shamans do to get the power.

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Now you're on the dark side.

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So this guy who's in the Amazon, saw the witch doctor or whatever, I had a shadow figure

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appear in our bedroom once and I knew exactly what it was.

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I knew someone was astral projecting and coming into the house.

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I knew that.

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This is probably before the fire, about six, seven years ago.

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And I immediately went into warfare, prayed against it, and just did what I had to do.

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But astral projection is real and shamans and Satanists and everybody else, this is

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what they use to get around.

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This is how they listen.

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This is how they listen.

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This is why it's important for us as Christians, never be afraid to call the angels.

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The angels are ministering spirits under the command of those who will inherit.

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Are not angels ministering spirits sent to those who will inherit salvation?

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That's us.

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Call the angels.

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Call the angels.

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We have the authority to call on the angels.

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Call the angels.

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Angels, draw your sword and kick it.

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I'll tell you a story real quick.

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About a month ago, yeah, I know you.

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Oh, you got too many stories here.

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But about a month ago, I'm being hit.

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I mean, I'm really being hit.

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I'm being hit really hard.

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It's not the typical warfare.

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This is the principality.

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How do I know that?

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I've had it one over time in Portugal while we were filming the Fatima films.

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I got hit with a principality there.

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Let me tell you, nothing worked.

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I lay in bed at three o'clock in the morning in a fetal position going, I'm out of here,

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Lord.

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I'm gone.

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In the morning, I can't do this film.

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I'm gone.

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Holy Spirit goes, trust the process.

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Next morning, I'm interviewing this guy who's a philosopher and a historian.

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I'm punch-drunk.

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I'm going, what was here before the Christian era, before the Romans and the Greeks?

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Oh, the goddess Mora.

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She would appear as a beautiful woman.

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There's that meniscus modus mausicae again.

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Appear as a beautiful woman, have her way with the men, seduce the men, and then turn

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into a serpent and eat them.

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Hello?

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And he goes, yeah, and there's still serpent cults up in northern Portugal.

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I'm just going like, oh my gosh.

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And people go, well, LA, why would the Lord allow that?

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Read Ezekiel 8.

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You tell me.

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Why would the Lord allow Ezekiel to go in and see all the abominations and then write

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about that?

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Because we need to understand what the enemy is up to.

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Anyway, here's the kicker with the angels.

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So about a month ago, maybe a little longer, I'm really getting hit, and I realize this

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isn't normal warfare.

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I can put on the armor.

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I can go through the whole, nothing's working here again.

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I say, I can't handle this.

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I need you to do something.

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Holy Spirit goes, call on the angels.

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I'm just kind of going, okay.

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So out loud, I say, in the name of Jesus, I command you to draw your swords and push

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the darkness away.

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John, I'm not exaggerating.

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And people go, LA, are you sure this happens?

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Were you on something?

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Maybe it was the pizza that you ate the night before.

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No, it wasn't.

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I'm being hit.

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I'm paralyzed.

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I called on the angels.

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And I mean overwhelmingly, it was the darkness, just like, oh my gosh, the moment I let that

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out of my mouth, one, two, bam, gone.

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The oppression gone out of here, and the peace of the Lord came over me.

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And I just sat there with my jaw on the ground.

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That's never happened before.

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I mean, it was astounding how quickly they pushed back the darkness.

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And it's another sign to me that we're in the latter days.

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I mean, this stuff is heating up in warfare.

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So when we call on the angels, remember, we have all authority.

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We have the authority to trade on scorpions and snakes and scorpions and all the power

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of the enemy.

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We have the authority and nothing will harm us.

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We just have to use it.

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And one of our tools is to call on the angels.

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Yeah, we definitely need to do that.

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And that's something that maybe we can have another conversation about sometime is calling

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on the angels.

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Because I'm always looking for another opportunity to connect with you.

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And I'm glad that we did about this alien hoax, as we're calling it, as we're pretty

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certain that this is a hoax in Mexico.

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And it's really interesting to see all these opportunities for deception to arise and all

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these opportunities for things to be counterfeiting what's real so that whenever the real comes,

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we don't take it for the value and for what it really is.

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So we'll be easily deceived or overlook it.

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So LA, as we're wrapping up here, I know you've got a new film that's coming out.

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I just want to give you an opportunity to talk about that as we wrap up here.

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We're the only Christian ministry that has six films regarding the UAP UFO phenomenon.

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They're all available.

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You can go to our streaming site, Instant Gratification, streaming.lamarzulli.net, streaming.lamarzulli.net,

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just download all six of them and binge watch them and get up to speed.

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Trust me, you will get up to speed if you watch it.

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The latest one, or you go to our website and order the DVDs, lamarzulli.net.

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But this is the darkest film I've ever worked on.

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It's called Academy of Middle Asian Calling Card of Darkness.

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That's exactly what it is.

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And at the very end of the film, when I do the close, I look at the camera and I say,

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you know, there's no happy ending here, folks.

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There's no feel good moment.

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There's no release.

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It is, we are in, it's a private tour in the Hell's Kitchen.

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And what we do is we sync up the grisly phenomena of the catamutilations and we link it back

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into the abduction phenomena and then into Daniel 243.

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I'll send you a private link, John, when we're done.

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It's not for the faint of heart.

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You don't want to show it to your kids for sure.

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I would say, in fact, you know, we put a warning in front of the film.

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It's for, you need to get prayed up before you, and this is not hype.

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You need to get prayed up before you watch it and get prayed up afterwards.

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And if it's too much to watch at the first time, turn it off, wait a day, get prayed

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up and continue the film.

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And I've had people, you know, email me and go, you know, you said all this and I kind

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of poo pooed it until I started to watch it.

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And now I get it.

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It's very disturbing.

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And it's not like this, you know, a graphic thing, hyper, we're not hyping anything.

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We're just delving into the phenomena for what it is.

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And at the end of the film, and we may be the only people that have actually linked

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it all together back into the breeding program.

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And what we discovered, what you'll see, I'm not going to give it away, but at the end

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of the film, we tie it all together, link it all together.

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It's very disturbing, extremely disturbing.

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And it links back into the seed war.

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It always goes back into the seed war.

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It ties into the properties and Daniel and what Jesus says, days of Noah, it's all part

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of the thing.

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So that's number six, number seven and eight are on Roswell one, Roswell two, I'll tease

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your audience with this.

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It's a completely different film in the Academy of Illusion.

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We went to the debris field, metal detectors, and we found something there.

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And that's, that's all I'll say.

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When did you find something?

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As we were there about two months ago now, two and a half months ago.

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And yeah, and the June.

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And we found this.

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So this has got to be something that people really need to need to get a hold of your

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website and the materials that you have and be on the lookout for that.

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So LA, I just appreciate you being willing to take the time to talk with me about all

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these things that are unexplainable by the human understanding.

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But we can understand these things through the Holy Spirit and to know that we have power

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over the darkness.

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Yes, we do.

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You know, as you called on those angels to push back that darkness, that principality,

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we don't have to be afraid of these things, these apparitions that happen or those these

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crazy things that you're hearing about in the news.

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You do not have to be afraid of it.

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You have the power of the Holy Spirit.

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Jesus is living inside of you.

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And we can ask the angels to, we can command the angels to do what God has commanded them

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to do, which is to protect us and to help us.

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Thank you so much for being here today on Charisma News.

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My pleasure.

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Thank you.

