Revival comes in all shapes and sizes. Whatever the church is ready for, he will bring to them.
I'm grateful to run with pastors and leaders that hear the Lord's voice and knowing when to quit.
Nick Walker, it's great to have you here on Charisma News. You have been in the midst of
a revival that has just kept on going. And in fact, nothing can stop this revival because
we were trying to actually talk about this a couple weeks ago. And right as we were ready to
record our interview about what God was doing to share all that, there was a lightning hit that
knocked out the power, knocked out the internet, and we just had to reschedule this. But that was
a couple weeks ago. But the revival that you've been a part of has just kept on going. And tell
me about what God has been doing. And man, that's exciting. Well, thank you, John and Charisma for
having me today. You said we tried to do this about three weeks ago. And maybe the Lord wanted
us to talk about what's happened for the last three weeks. I don't know. I think so. We've been in
Sandusky, Ohio since September 24th. And it was supposed to end on September 27th. We usually go
Sunday to Wednesday. And we just kept it going. And so we just ended it last night. And it's been
a powerful move of the Spirit, filled with repentance. I always bring a... Maybe we can
talk about this a little more. I usually bring a horse trough with me in a trailer. And we do
spontaneous baptisms. That's just a big part of our evangelism ministry. And so we always put it
right in front of the pulpit and give a call to spontaneous baptism, rededication, repentance.
And I have seen... I was telling the pastor here, Dustin Hours, I have seen more families get in
this horse trough at this revival than any other revival. I think we've baptized nine or ten
families of four at one time. And so the Lord is doing some really amazing things here with
the family unit. Last night was the final revival service. I have a teen service tonight at seven,
but last night was the last revival night. And we saw lots of high school students come and get
baptized. We're seeing signs and wonders, confirmed healings and miracles. And so the Lord's doing
some amazing things here. We had on Monday night, a woman brought her infant child. I guess he's
less than a year old, but he was born at 26 weeks. And so he's had a feeding tube since he was born.
He was more of the hole in his heart. And so they came on Monday night and we laid hands on this
baby. They came back last night and we're baptizing people. And the mother, or I think it was the aunt
got in my ear and she said, I've got to tell you what happened today. I said, okay. And she had the
baby. And I said, I recognize that baby. And she says, yes, we went to the doctor and had some
tests run today. They were supposed to put a feeding tube in this child permanently. In fact,
he was deemed, I think the phrase they gave me was incompatible with life. And so he was supposed to
have a permanent feeding tube put in. So not only did they take the feeding tube out permanently,
but the hole in his heart closed. And so we've seen some really wild miracles at this revival
from infants to one of the founding members of this church. She turns 90 this year and she
received some physical manifestations of healing. And so the Lord is healing every generation. It's
been a great revival here. So kind of sad to see it come to an end. We've been baptized almost 130
people. And so it's been a great one. Wow. You know, Nick, I've got so many things to say about
that. First off, I rejoice with you about those miracles that you just shared and just how Dr.
Jesus is showing up big time and doing things that only he can do. I mean, to have a hole in the heart
close in an infant without surgery is nothing short of a miracle. We know that Jesus heals today.
He's healed in the past and he will continue to heal in the future. And that is a powerful testimony
of this baby that was incompatible with life. I mean, talk about that label that has been put
over that child's life and how God miraculously in an instant is able to turn that child's destiny
around. Because, my goodness, whatever was meant for evil is now being used as a testimony for the
glory of God in this child's life forever. Amen. Yes, that's right. We were talking about things
last night. The Lord had me ministering from Matthew 8 when Jesus touched the leper. And we
know he's Jesus. He didn't have to touch the leper. And of course, leprosy is very contagious. And so
you read where he touched the leper, but he didn't have to. He could have spoken the word.
He could have done it any other way, but he chose to touch someone that society had called
untouchable. And so that's what the Lord was doing with this child, things that make him
incompatible with life, otherwise untouchable. And the Lord is just demonstrating in this
generation only he can touch the things that we've called untouchable. Amen. Amen. You know, Nick,
I do have a question for you. You said that last night was the last night of the revival itself,
but you've got it. You're going to be speaking at the youth service again tonight. So it's not
really over. It's just kind of changing a little bit. Just shifting gears. How does one come up
with the like basically, how do you know if a revival is time to stop or if it was a revival
or was it just really good meetings or tell me about the decision for it to change directions,
I guess. Like how did how did this come about? Because I would want to keep a revival going and
going and going. Oh, yes. Tell me about that because that has to be I mean, the leaders that
God has put in charge, they need to hear from him. How do you hear from God about about something
like that? That for me, that that is the hardest thing to do is is know when to go. And so I always
always leave that decision up to the pastor. And we always have discussions. And I've never had,
I don't recall ever having a revival season come to a close where the pastor and I didn't come to
an agreement on something. And really, it depends. It depends on the church and and what and what
they're ready for. You know, if you have, for example, if you have maybe a revival meeting
where 200 people get saved in two weeks, the church now has the has the responsibility of
discipling perhaps 200 people. And so the question you have to ask is, is the church ready?
Are the church's nets ready for that that catch a fish, so to speak, without without the boat
sinking? And I don't think that the Lord would ever want to bring it outpouring so heavy that
it causes a church to quote, sink revival can be dangerous if we if we just kind of let it go,
go and go. And this church in particular, the one in Sandusky here, they they are ready for what
they've experienced in the last three weeks. You know, there's there's been a hundred and
right at one hundred and thirty people baptized, maybe a little less, but most of them are
rededications. And so they're getting rebaptized. You know, Revelation two would tell us if you've
left your first love, you can return to your first love by doing your first works over again.
Of course, which is repentance and water baptism, right, reference to the annex, too. And so there's
a lot of rededications, but there have been a lot of maybe an equal amount of fresh, fresh first
time salvations. And so the Lord is giving this church what they've been praying and fasting for.
We've had revivals like this go three weeks. Last year we had one go 15 weeks in Huntington,
West Virginia. And I think that the Lord would would pour out what the church is ready for. But
it's a difficult thing to know when to go. And the difference, I think, between a
just a series of good meetings and genuine revival, that revival is always filled with repentance.
That's the essence of revival because you're because the the dead is coming back to life,
the sleeper is being awakened. And that's that's always how revival is referenced,
whether it's a series of three services or or three weeks of services. And you saw it,
you saw it in Asbury earlier in the year where there was no preaching and there was no like
services. It was just 24, 24, seven. I got to go experience one of those, just a moment of that.
And so revival comes in all shapes and sizes, whatever the church is ready for, he will he
will bring to them. I'm grateful to to run with pastors and leaders that that hear the Lord's
voice and knowing when to quit. Yeah, we're gonna talk about one of those pastors that
that you run with and that being Perry Stone. And we'll talk about that in just a little bit,
how God has connected you guys. But I think what you said is is worth diving in a little
bit deeper about to about how basically the foundation determines the amount of revival
that we can have the foundation of the church and how you are ready to receive what God is
is entrusting you with. I think that's a really important thing that we need to be to be aware
of. And we need to be preparing because if we're not prepared for the next great harvest that God
has, we're going to have I mean, I'm reminded of Mark chapter four and how the good all this
good seed falls on two four different types of ground. You've got this, the trail, you've got
the road, you've got rocky soil, you've got the weeds, and you've got good ground. You know, and
I always like to say, like to add on that, you know, if a good farmer sees a seed that's out of
place, he's going to make sure he puts it in a good ground. He's not just going to leave it there.
But I mean, regardless, there's only one fourth of that that is going to bear fruit and continue
to grow in that good soil. But we need to make sure that the soil is prepared. I mean, that's
what a that's what a farmer does. I mean, they don't just go willy nilly and plant. I mean,
you're out in Sandusky, Ohio. And I know that's there's a lot of corn fields and farmland around
that area. It's been a running joke at this revive. I had no idea how much farmland was up here.
But but a farmer is going to till the soil, they're going to prepare it, they're going to water it,
they're going to take care of it, you know, they're going to know when to plant and they're going to
know when to reap. And, you know, if we're if we just throw seed wherever we think it's wherever we
would like it to go, rather than the store that that's been prepared, we're going to not have the
harvest that we want. But if we prepare, and the church is ready to receive that harvest,
then you're ready to do what God's called you to do. Do you think the reason that we're not having
widespread revival is because the church isn't ready for it?
Yes, in a nutshell, yes. I'm almost reminded of I believe it's Matthew nine where Jesus talks about
it's a fasting passage, but you could you could correlate it to this as well where he talks about
the wine skin. And he says if you pour new wine into old wine skin, and the big because what
happens is you would if you were making new wine, you pour it into a fresh wine skin and there and
new wine skin has an elasticity to it, because they would pour this wine in and seal it off.
And the new wine always is producing gas bubbles and it causes the skin to expand. And so Jesus
was saying here that if you're if you're wine skin, if your heart is not ready to expand,
and take on the things of God, an old wine skin will bust because it has no elasticity. It's like
an old rubber band. And so Jesus said you don't put you don't put new wine and old wine skin,
because when the gas bubbles start to cause expansion, your heart will bust. And I see the
same thing with with revival. And again, that was a fasting passage preparing our hearts for what the
Lord wants to do in us personally, but this could be applied corporately. You know, if our church
is not ready for the expansion that God would like to bring, then if he would try to pour new wine
into your church, it would bust. And that's the that's one of the reasons I kind of felt like the
Lord was going to do something like this here in Sandusky. Pastor Dustin called me in July. So two
months before this and he said, man, he said, we've been we've been praying and fasting and just
seeking his face. And he said, I don't know how this goes. But like what happens when a revival
gets extended? It was already on his heart. And he said, I'm not I'm not saying the Lord told me
it's going to get extended, but I just want to be ready. And he said, we've been praying and fasting
like weekly. And then the week leading up to the revival, I think they went through an entire week
of prayer fasting and just in preparation. And so there there is a there's a standard to being ready
for the outpouring of God's Spirit. We hear it a lot with John Kilpatrick and Brownsville in the
90s, of course, where they they prayed for two and a half years and got a five year revival.
And so there's always these prayer and fasting things that come before revival, not afterwards.
It's the people being prepared for what God's pouring out. And so I guess that's the long
answer to your to your question there. But the short answer is, yes, there's a there is a religious
spirit in our land that keeps us from from experiencing the fullness of what he would like
to bring. Wow. Wow. So one of the things that you've done to prepare yourself for your calling is
you've God's enabled you to be connected with another powerful man of God who's been walking
the walk and talking the talk for many years. And that is Perry Stone. Tell us about how God has
connected the two of you guys and how what that has meant to you in a leadership way, but also a
spiritual way. Perry has been I've called him dad for the last six or seven years. So I'm from
southern West Virginia. I actually live on on site down there in Cleveland, Tennessee. Now I live
next to his the ramp OCI, which is the church building there. And I just moved there in December
21. But Perry and I go back to actually July of 2016. And there was a great revival movement that
was happening in the coalfields of southern West Virginia. And I was playing college football. So
I was home for the summer and I came back and I watched Perry Stone on YouTube and other things
since I was probably 12 years old. My dad showed me a lot of Perry Stone and John Hagee and those
type of men growing up. And so that was my upbringing was John Hagee and Perry Stone prophecy
teaching. And I always thought, man, that guy's prophecy stuff is really cool.
So he jumps on Facebook one morning and says, I'm coming to West Virginia to have a prayer
meeting in Bluefield. And I called dad and I said, man, Perry Stone's come, we've got to go, you
know, we got I've never seen it. We got to go. Yeah. So we drive out there and it was just like
a very spontaneous on the spot prayer meeting people, people left work and came to this, to
this armory in Bluefield. And he's he starts praying and asked for the minister to come and
and asked for the ministers to come forward. He wanted to pray for the pastors. And I had just
accepted a youth pastor position at my, at my Pentecostal hole in his church in Mullins. And
so dad goes, well, you're, you're a pastor now. I was a pastor for like five days, but you're a
pastor. I was 19. And so I went up there and I was, I was by a long shot, the youngest pastor up
there. If you wanted to call me a pastor and I'm standing up there and he looks down and he says,
son, how old are you? And I said, I'm 19. And he said, when I crossed the border into West Virginia,
the Lord told me a young preacher would be here that I needed to connect with. Now, Perry and I,
he, he was born of course in West Virginia. His family grew up about 40 minutes from where I grew
up. And so there's this, I guess there's this West Virginia connection, this mountain blood we have.
I don't know, but I'm sure you've had these, these things where you, you meet someone and it feels
like you've known him for 20 years. And that's, that's really the way it was for, for Perry and
I, it didn't even feel like that we had to get to know each other. It kind of felt like we already
did. And so after we had this moment in Bluefield, we, we exchanged phone numbers and he just wanted
to stay connected. So I brought him, uh, where I was youth pastoring, I brought him to our church
in Mullins, West Virginia in, in January of 17 for a, just a weekend revival. And, uh, he,
he released a prophetic word over, over my life about an evangelism ministry that I did not see
coming. I didn't, I didn't anticipate it would be full-time ministry. I was in nursing school. So
a lot of, a lot of shifts and changes I did. I quit college football. I quit nursing school,
switched to elementary education and Perry has been, uh, mentoring me since, since that night.
And so he's been a, he's been a really heavy voice of influence in, in my life and ministry. It's,
it's a, it's a great blessing to be able to pick up the phone and call Perry and say, man, how,
how did you handle this when you were, when you were this age? And so, but, but the Lord's blessed
me with, with multiple spiritual fathers, him being one of the most prevalent, of course. And
so it's, it's been a, been a great seven year stretch with him. Yeah. You know, it reminds me
of the story of Elijah calling out Elisha and just how, you know, when Elisha received that call,
he quickly, um, it killed the ox and that he was, uh, that he was driving actually had 12,
you know, 12 teams of them. And he got, he cut up the, uh, the, the yolks as well. So there was no
turning back for him. And you did the, you did similar things with that too. You laid down
football, you laid down, uh, nursing school and you went full on in what God's called you to do.
Have you ever looked back and said, was that the right decision?
I've, a lot of people would say, yes, honestly, I have not, uh, maybe, okay. So I, I, I called
the coach and quit and then, uh, switched schools so I could youth pastor. And that was about five
days before I met Perry. I didn't even know he was coming to West Virginia. I quit the team and then
he came the next week. So probably for that five day stretch, I could remember saying, man, I,
Lord, I don't know if I made the right decision. I had it made, uh, you know, full ride football,
scholarship, nursing school. I was excited. I was already accepted into the program. Uh, uh,
straight a student. I was, I was, I was pretty set by, by carnal measures. I was set, you know?
And so it would have been, it would have been a fun journey. And so I didn't know why the Lord was
asking that of me. And, and part of me was like, Lord, you, you gave this to me. You allowed me to
have this. And why did you allow me to have this only to take it away from me after a year? So
there were some questions. And then when I met Perry and stepped into ministry, you couldn't pay
me to go back. So you actually have the story kind of, you know, backwards from Elijah calling
out Elisha. It was, it would have been like, if Elisha didn't even see Elijah coming, but God just
spoke to him, kill the ox, kill, you know, break up the yolk and make that sacrifice right now.
And then Elijah comes, you know, that, so you took that a step of faith, a big time.
Yeah, it was, um, I, I, I've ministered on and off there while I was playing college ball. I
started preaching when I was 17. So it was, you know, in school clubs and this and that, and a,
I had a minister tell me, uh, right after I graduated high school, he said, the Lord's called
you to preach to the nations. He said, you're, you're going to get your, you're going to get a
degree, but you're not going to use it. And I laughed at him. I was like, yeah, buddy. I said,
I, I was doing this like as a weekend hobby thing. I didn't, I didn't even know that it was
possible to do this at a full time capacity. It was just not in my framework. Um, every minister
I knew from Southern West Virginia, of course, is, you know, it's a bivocational thing because
it says the small towns. And so, um, and we, we see in scripture that even Paul was bivocational.
And so I just didn't even see that as a, I didn't have a framework for that. And so the Lord
obviously has had other plans. I did, I got an elementary education degree in, uh, graduated in
2019. And of course I do not use that. This is what I do now. The Lord has used that degree in
other ways though, cause we're able to go and minister in the school systems. And we've seen
thousands of young people saved in the last four or five years in school buildings. And so, uh,
whatever, uh, whatever I've obtained with degrees, the Lord's using, you know,
Yeah. He's using it in a way that he can multiply it as you, as you've laid it down for him,
you know, Nick, as we're, as we're wrapping up here, I'm going to ask you to pray for the
people that are watching here, the people that are saying, you know, I want to be used in this
next revival that's coming. We feel it. We feel that there's birth pains in the world right now.
There's, there's things that are happening that just, it makes no sense in this world other than
what we see about the prom, the coming of the end times. But brother, we, we know that God does not
desire for anybody to perish. He, we're believing for that end time, great harvest. Yes. But we need
to be ready. As we talked about earlier, we need to be ready to receive that. Uh, would you just
pray that, you know, the Bible says that, you know, pray to the Lord of the harvest that he would send
laborers out there. Um, would you pray that those laborers will be ready? Oh, certainly. Thank you,
Lord. Well, father, we just thank you for this time together and Lord, we thank you for anyone
who may be listening to this and maybe they feel stuck or they, they feel stale or complacent. Maybe
they're, uh, in, in churches every week, but they feel purposeless. They feel maybe even perhaps
without identity. Lord, we know in Matthew chapter nine, you said the harvest is so ripe. The harvest
is plentiful. It's the laborers that have difficulty. It's the laborers that have trouble. And Lord,
even as I, as I drive up here through Northeast Ohio and we see these beautiful, uh, beautiful,
large pieces of farmland, I see lots of crops and then I'll see two or three workers. And so father,
I believe the same is true in scripture. I believe the same is true in life, uh, with the spiritual
harvest that we see today. Lord, we know that the harvest, uh, in America is right. We know that the
harvest around the world is right as we grow closer and closer as the, the birth contractions
of the return of Jesus draw closer. Or we know the need for laborers is dire. And so Lord, I just ask
you right now to stir up the gift is as Paul would write to Timothy to stir up the gift that lays
dormant and dry on the inside of every believer listening to this right now. Father, I say,
awaken the preacher, the teacher, the evangelist, the apostle, Lord, wake up the prophet, wake up
the worship leader. Lord, stir us to identity as sons and daughters. And from that identity,
we minister and from that identity, we preach and pray and prophesy. Lord, I pray that you would
even, uh, awaken, uh, students in public schools and universities to be a beacon of light and a
beacon of hope and truth and a, and a culture that's full of chaos and a culture that's full
of confusion and a culture that, uh, Lord, and a culture that says you can change from a man to
a woman or a woman to a man. Lord, I pray that you would raise up young people that stand for
truth. I pray that you would raise up, uh, professors and presidents of universities and
teachers that stand for truth on the stand on the truth of God's word. Lord, I pray for every,
every listener, every person watching right now that you would baptize them in fresh power. Lord,
you said in Acts chapter one, that when the Holy ghost comes upon us, we will receive power to be
witnesses. Lord, we can't be witnesses unless we have power. So I pray Holy spirit, uh,
doonimus dynamic power, uh, to fall in every believer listening right now that they would,
that they would receive this as they listen to this in the name of Jesus, Lord, that when
power falls upon them, they would, they're, they're the gift and their innermost being would be
stirred. Um, and Lord, I pray for, I pray for these believers listening, uh, to go and reap a
beautiful bountiful harvest, Lord sharpen the reaping sickles, uh, mend the nets, get the boats
ready, Lord, because there are people being one to Jesus in droves. We're seeing it in our ministry
and everywhere we go, there are people being one to Jesus in schools and, and in churches and
it everywhere we turn, people are looking at the things going on around the world and saying,
it seems like Jesus is going to come back soon. And so Lord, I thank you that you're stirring
the hearts of believers to, to reap harvest, not to, not to sit in a church and wait on the rapture,
uh, but to, but that what Jesus prayed in Luke, I pray that you be found working. And so Lord,
I pray that you send workers into these fields now in Jesus name, in Jesus name. Thank you, Lord.
Amen. Yes. Amen. Nick, it's been great talking with you and just hearing how God is moving in
revival, uh, what he's been doing in the last few weeks in Sandusky and how God's used you there and
where God's calling you to, uh, to travel next and, and just how God has brought the right people
into your life to help catapult you to his call. Nick, we're going to keep our eye on you. We're
going to make sure that we follow you. How can people connect with you, your website or social
media? Just let us know about that. Uh, our website is just nwministries.com. Uh, and Facebook is Nick
Walker ministries, uh, and make sure you don't put a C in Nick. Um, I am a, I'm a weird one. So
it's just NIK. A lot of people don't find us for that. Uh, but again, nwministries.com, all of our
stuff is on there, our itinerary. Um, I've written two books, we're about to launch a third. And so
the Lord's doing a lot of great things here. So check out our websites and, uh, maybe there are
pastors wanting to, uh, bring an evangelism ministry in for revival. You can, you can book us
on there as well. Uh, all the information you would need is on there. So again, nwministries.com
and Nick Walker ministries on Facebook. So thank you so much. It's been an honor to be with you
today. Absolutely. I'm so glad that we were able to do this and I want to let every pastor know
that if you want to have Nick come, you gotta be prepared for the revival that follows. So get
yourself ready. God bless you.