1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 And I didn't know he's a full-fledged cessationist 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,520 and that he hated Charismatics back then. 3 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:06,600 I didn't know he'd written books about guys like me. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,960 But I'm driving down the road 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,200 and he and I rented a car together, we're riding together. 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,920 The guy calls me, a friend of mine, Pastor Shane Warren. 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,440 He's like, hey, hey Gibson, 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,920 are you ministering with Locke right now? 9 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,680 I'm like, yeah, he's like, he hates guys like you. 10 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,400 So he says on the phone and I'm like, I'm riding by him. 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,120 I'm like, well, we're getting along pretty good right now. 12 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,000 You know, things are going. 13 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 I didn't even know how bad it was freaking Locke out 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,240 because we're like driving in the car forever 15 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,560 and flying on planes together. 16 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,080 But I pray in tongues a lot. 17 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,480 And you know, instead of cussing 18 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,320 when somebody pulls over on me in an interstate, 19 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,280 I think it's better. 20 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,400 My flesh wants to cuss. 21 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,200 I think it's better to talk in tongues. 22 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Pastor Brian Gibson, it's great to have you here 23 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,880 on Charisma News. 24 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,780 And we've been hearing some amazing things 25 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:49,560 that God is doing in your church, 26 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,960 but it's actually his church. 27 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,300 I love the name of that church 28 00:00:52,300 --> 00:00:55,400 because you're trying to keep the emphasis 29 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,360 that it is his church, it's God's church. 30 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,520 So welcome here to Charisma News. 31 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Hey, it's an honor to be with you, John. 32 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 What an honor. 33 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,120 And it is his church. 34 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,680 You know, we've hung our hats on Matthew 16, 18. 35 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Jesus said, I will build my church 36 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,360 and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. 37 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,240 So that's like the guiding scripture of my life 38 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,040 that everything we do, it's about Jesus. 39 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,040 And we're just trying to stay out of the way 40 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,480 and let him do what he wants to do, man. 41 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,040 But thanks for having me. 42 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,920 What an honor. 43 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Amen, amen. 44 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,680 Yeah, it's an honor to have you here 45 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,720 and to talk about the revival that is really happening 46 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,760 at your churches, the different campuses that you have. 47 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,320 And I know that we're gonna talk about this in a little bit, 48 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,880 but you just had Jonathan Cahn there and Greg Locke, 49 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,840 which are two of our authors here at Charisma. 50 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,320 And we follow their ministries very closely 51 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:48,900 and we're excited whenever we saw 52 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:51,240 that you basically had these guys back to back. 53 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,220 And it's not because they were already like scheduled 54 00:01:54,220 --> 00:01:57,420 for something, God has been moving in your church. 55 00:01:57,420 --> 00:02:00,440 And I wanna hear about this revival that's been breaking out 56 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,720 and you've been saying that you've been actually feeling 57 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,440 things like physically too. 58 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,320 So tell us about what God is doing at his church. 59 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Yeah, it's been wild and been incredible. 60 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,520 I'm exhausted. 61 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,240 I've done like two solid weeks 62 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,900 of preaching right now every night, right? 63 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:19,000 But it's been great. 64 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,160 We had a couple of conferences. 65 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,600 We did have some conferences scheduled, right? 66 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,760 So we got churches in Kentucky, Owensboro, Henderson, 67 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,020 then we have a church in Amarillo, Texas. 68 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,640 So we do a conference on the Texas side, 69 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,040 then we'll turn around the next week, 70 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,840 do a conference on the Kentucky side. 71 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,960 But what happened in Texas is I'm there one night 72 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,900 with a friend of mine, I think Daniel, 73 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:44,080 Pastor Daniel Bracken just built the largest church house 74 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,120 in the state of Alaska, a powerful man. 75 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,420 Pastor Shane Warren is in there as well with me, 76 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:54,300 me and my wife, and we're just hanging out in worship. 77 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:56,720 And man, you could sense and tell the power 78 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,280 of God's coming to the room. 79 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,280 And as I'm standing there, I did feel something like, 80 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,600 I'm real careful with my language like this, 81 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,820 so I don't over sensationalize stuff, but in worship, 82 00:03:06,820 --> 00:03:10,440 I physically felt something touch me on the head. 83 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,280 And I opened up my eyes and there's nothing there. 84 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,000 And I didn't say anything to anybody 85 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,640 because I'm like, what is that? 86 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,320 Is that a flashback from acid in the 90s? 87 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,400 Was it the spine crack? 88 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Well, my wife, who never took acid, by the way, 89 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,300 she's standing beside me, she's a good kid, 90 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:29,840 preacher's daughter, I was an outlaw that Jesus saved. 91 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,800 She's standing beside me and she turns around 92 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,160 and she says, did you feel that? 93 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Now I'm like, she's like, something just touched me. 94 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,840 And Daniel Bracken, Pastor Daniel, 95 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,280 without us saying anything to him, he said, 96 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,520 man, I think there's angels in here, 97 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,000 something's touched me. 98 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Pastor Shane Warren said the same thing, 99 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,480 all independent of each other. 100 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,200 He's like, something walked by me and just brushed me. 101 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,160 And Pastor Shane said it when he was in the pulpit, 102 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,840 but I'm telling you, like the power and the anointing 103 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,400 and the presence of God just started to settle 104 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,320 into the room and miracles started happening, right? 105 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,860 There's a lady with a blocked aorta, 106 00:04:06,860 --> 00:04:08,920 no blood flow into her legs. 107 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,400 And none of us prayed for her, 108 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,440 the ushers prayed for her that night. 109 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,080 And she went back and her aorta was opened up. 110 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Guys that like 10 year rotator cuff issues, 111 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,040 like couldn't get their arm over their head, 112 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,360 claimed that their rotator cuff totally healed. 113 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,040 A kid, I would not suggest this, 114 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,320 that needed reconstructive knee surgery, 115 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,260 an athlete, right, but fairly young, 116 00:04:33,260 --> 00:04:35,620 still strong, working out and stuff, 117 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:37,720 said God touched his knee, went in the next day 118 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,360 and put 350 on the squat rack and did it. 119 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Like, I'm like, I do not suggest doing that, right? 120 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,720 That's not, but miracles, I mean, just started happening. 121 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,120 And people got excited and crowds started coming, right? 122 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:56,080 This is before any names or, you know, any big names, 123 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,840 all of us are, the guys that are there, 124 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,180 we're all successful pastors and strong ministry gifts, 125 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:01,020 but not- 126 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:02,120 Right, you're just having a church conference. 127 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,080 This is not like a big national thing yet. 128 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,840 This is just, you're just having your regular conference. 129 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:12,080 We're just having church and people start showing up 130 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,420 and people are excited. 131 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:15,800 I'll tell you what happened to me. 132 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,640 I preached one night, we, 133 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Wednesday night it was supposed to be over, 134 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,860 it was Sunday through Wednesday, 135 00:05:20,860 --> 00:05:24,200 but the power of God was so rich and real, 136 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,480 we said, hey, we gotta keep, Jesus, I mean, we didn't, 137 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,280 I don't know, you know, 138 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:31,000 we didn't follow any keys to revival, 139 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,280 we didn't pray enough, fast enough or anything. 140 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:36,520 God just showed up to help his people. 141 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,400 And we extended it. 142 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 We extended the revival and I was preaching one night 143 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,680 I was preaching, I wanna get people in love with Jesus 144 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,880 again, right? 145 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,920 I mean, that's the only answer we have, right? 146 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Right. 147 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,000 America's messed up. 148 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,640 We need a revival. 149 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,200 There is no political remedy for our nation. 150 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,820 And I'm a fairly political guy, but nobody can fix this. 151 00:05:57,820 --> 00:06:01,040 The only thing that can help this nation is an awakening. 152 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,000 So I don't think like our Republic can be saved 153 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,320 or anything like that at this point, 154 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,120 although I'm still praying and hopeful, 155 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,120 but I do think a revival can change our nation. 156 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,680 And so I was preaching out of where John, you know, 157 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,000 says there's one coming after me, 158 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,360 I'm not even worthy to tie shoes. 159 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,640 I'll baptize you with water, 160 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,920 but there's one coming that will baptize you with fire. 161 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Jesus walks up the next day, right? 162 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,840 It's the next day, John's prophesying. 163 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,000 It says the next day Jesus walks up, 164 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,200 John says, behold the lamb of God, 165 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,000 takes away the sin of the world. 166 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,520 And so I'm preaching, behold the lamb, right? 167 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Look at all, look to the lamb with awe and expectation 168 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,240 and love and wonder, we need to see the lamb. 169 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,320 And I get down and I'm like, 170 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,420 I'm praying for a new passion for Jesus in our church. 171 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:50,680 And I was laying hands on people in the altar 172 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,680 and I had a mini, I don't know, 173 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,280 I didn't see him with my eyes, let's call it a vision, 174 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:58,800 whatever you wanna call it, you know, these things are, 175 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,640 people see different, hear different, 176 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,600 we all interact with the spirit of God, 177 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,480 just a little bit different, 178 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,240 because we're people and we're fearfully 179 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,880 and wonderfully made, right? 180 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,480 I'm walking through the altar, I look to my right 181 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,320 and in my spirit, I see Jesus walking by me. 182 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,160 Wow. 183 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Right, just for a second, it's not with my eyes, 184 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,280 it's with my spirit, with my heart, it's the way I see. 185 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,560 And then he stepped over from beside of me 186 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,520 and he stepped on top of me, right? 187 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,000 And I had buddies watching the live feed 188 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,620 and they started texting my wife, 189 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:31,720 like something just happened to Brian. 190 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,480 I got so undone when it happened, 191 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,680 like I couldn't stop weeping. 192 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,880 And I had a handkerchief, 193 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,360 because I'm a big boy and my spiritual gift is sweating. 194 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,400 And I took this handkerchief and I just put it over my face 195 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,240 because I didn't really want people to see 196 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,160 how undone it was. 197 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,480 And as I was walking through the altar then, 198 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,120 man, everybody started melting when I got close to him. 199 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,200 Just power God permeates the room. 200 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,040 So I think that kicked it off. 201 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,080 There were some, almost like, 202 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,440 if we're talking about Rabbi Cammel, 203 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,680 call them harbingers, that revival was coming, right? 204 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Couple of months before, 205 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,760 like there's been some real hunger that's hit us 206 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,320 and some real, also brokenness, just to be honest. 207 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,000 We fought hell nationally for several years. 208 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,600 It's why I'm 46, I look like I'm going on 70, 209 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,040 through the lockdowns and became a voice 210 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,840 against government oppression of the church. 211 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,760 But I walked in the church a couple of months ago 212 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,160 and the secretaries came and got me and said, 213 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,080 pastor, there's somebody out front. 214 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,160 We don't know if he's dangerous or not. 215 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Kind of looks crazy. 216 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,880 And he did, he had all the signs up. 217 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,560 He was strung out and he was laid down 218 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,680 on the front of the church house, like by the door, 219 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:52,280 just face down. 220 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,880 And I went out there, I had a friend in town, 221 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Pastor Joel DeAngie, helps me pastor now, 222 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,960 so come on staff. 223 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,040 And I was like, Joel, watch, 224 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,200 I don't know what this guy's gonna do 225 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 because I've had a lot of death threats throughout the years. 226 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,080 And this guy's down there all strung out. 227 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,440 And I'm like, hey, I walk out, hey man, can I help you? 228 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,400 And he looked up at me and he said, he's weeping. 229 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,440 He said, my mama brought me to this building 230 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,080 when I was a little boy. 231 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,240 And I was across town, he was about 15 miles away. 232 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,800 I was across town and I felt like 233 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,200 if I could get to this building, I could find God. 234 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,520 This is what the kid says. 235 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Wow. 236 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,640 And he's hanging on the threshold of the church. 237 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Right. 238 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,440 So we prayed for him minister to invest we could, 239 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,280 you know what I mean? 240 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,880 Believe God for him and took him where he needed to go. 241 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,520 And I hadn't seen him since, I'm believing God, 242 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,960 God started something in him. 243 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,640 But I think it was kinda like, God's like, 244 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,320 hey, I'm gonna bring the broken and the lost 245 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,160 and the hurting. 246 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,600 It was like a prophetic, prophetic sign to me, if you will. 247 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,600 But it started in Amarillo then it went to Owensboro. 248 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,640 And we did seven days. 249 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Owensboro is our Kentucky location. 250 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,440 Almost I left Amarillo in the middle 251 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,720 of a Sunday morning service, 252 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,200 cause you know, American Airlines owns you 253 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,120 out in West Texas, the only way you're getting out 254 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,920 unless you wanna take a horse across the desert out here. 255 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,280 But we're flying out and man, people, 256 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,320 the power got so strong in the room. 257 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,680 I have to leave right then. 258 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:25,160 And we get to Owensboro and the same stuff 259 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,360 starts happening there. 260 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Same stuff starts happening. 261 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,440 So it's rolling. 262 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,240 God's doing something. 263 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,080 Wow. 264 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 So what were some of the things that were being preached 265 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,040 that were, what were some themes 266 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,800 that might have been able to spark this revival? 267 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Then the strongest theme I know, 268 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,680 I'll say this, Pastor Daniel Bracken started preaching 269 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,760 about just believing God for bigger. 270 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,040 And he does have a real, he's like a, 271 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,760 he's a wrecking ball, just to be honest, and a faith man. 272 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,800 And he's just fought hell to build up. 273 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,800 It's like a 75,000 square foot building in Wasilla, Alaska. 274 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,440 His church is King's Chapel, but it was like, 275 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,960 he fought hell at a higher level. 276 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Alaska, you only have so many months to build, right? 277 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,680 And if you can't get it built then, 278 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:21,880 you gotta wait till everything falls out. 279 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:22,960 I mean, it's a real deal. 280 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 And so it's been seven years him fighting the hell. 281 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,640 And I think he's got an uncommon faith. 282 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,440 And I think he was releasing that to the people to believe, 283 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,080 but that was massive. 284 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,680 I'll say this, like Jesus, 285 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,320 people were preaching spirit baptism, right? 286 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,480 People were preaching somewhat about the controversy 287 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,840 between the Jews and Palestine right now. 288 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,680 Okay. 289 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,880 Tied it back into Haman, 290 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,080 wanting to kill the Jews in the book of Esther, 291 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,720 and how there's a demonic warfare around. 292 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,400 But I'll say this, we had some great speakers in Owensboro. 293 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,000 We had Rabbi Khan, and we had Greg Locke. 294 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Greg Locke's flying in tonight 295 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,160 to preach in Amarillo as well. 296 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Oh, wow. 297 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,720 And Khan preached the return of the gods, 298 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,360 which is where we are as a culture right now. 299 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Where it's about the old God Testament false gods 300 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,760 are really just demon powers, right? 301 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,680 Molech and the Asteroth and Baal. 302 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,280 And you see what they're doing in the culture right now 303 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,280 with the lies coming to our children 304 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,200 about all the LGBTQ stuff. 305 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,320 Also the blood, I mean, I call it blood sacrifice, 306 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 the abortion all over the world. 307 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,280 It's what it is, right? 308 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,400 Khan does a great job teaching that. 309 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,640 So I think that was touching hearts. 310 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,320 And I'll say this, one night, 311 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,280 I didn't have a big guest speaker, 312 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,840 and we got things going forward. 313 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,800 And I'm trying to pray, 314 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,520 who do I get over here to help me run this revival? 315 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,440 And Jesus spoke to me and he said, 316 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,680 can I be your special guest tonight? 317 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,600 And I'm like, yeah, Lord, 318 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,960 I would love to host you more than anybody else. 319 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,680 And so the big names showed up and they're awesome. 320 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,480 I love those guys, men of God, right? 321 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,440 But when people just came for nobody but Jesus, 322 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,040 it's pretty special, you know? 323 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,040 It's pretty special. 324 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,880 I don't say that to God. 325 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,520 The rabbi is a dear friend and great teacher. 326 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,600 I mean, I learned so much from him after the service, 327 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,760 blowing my mind. 328 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,000 It's just like, he knows more. 329 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 He's forgotten more than I've ever learned. 330 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,720 And then Locke's got an authority over the devil right now 331 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,320 that's hit another level. 332 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,920 And we go back. 333 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,000 I mean, he and I go back for some time now. 334 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,840 And- 335 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 I want you to share a little bit of that story 336 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,720 of how you and Pastor Greg Locke 337 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,840 have been doing some ministry together over the years. 338 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,120 But we'll save that for a little bit later. 339 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,680 But continue to tell me about what God's doing now. 340 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:00,240 Yeah, yeah, Jesus, 341 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,040 he just said, can I be your special guest? 342 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,720 And so I'm trying to keep it Jesus-focused 343 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,400 and Jesus-centered the revival, right? 344 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,000 And I'm trying to make sure we don't get in the way of it. 345 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,320 So like even other friends I've got that move so powerfully 346 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,480 like in the word of knowledge and stuff like that, 347 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,720 I got friends that can come in 348 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,480 and I travel with them pretty extensively. 349 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Doesn't matter where we go. 350 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Like some of these guys know, 351 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,560 they know everybody's name and what they're dealing with 352 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,800 and their job. 353 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,080 And I'm talking crazy, crazy gifts of the Spirit. 354 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,720 I love to see that operate. 355 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,640 But people can get like so wowed by that 356 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,080 that they forget what we came for. 357 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,920 We didn't come for the gift. 358 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,760 We came for the one that gives the gift, right? 359 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,320 And I want us to stay focused on that. 360 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,520 But in the middle of it, like in Owensboro, 361 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,800 I'll say this Owensboro, Kentucky, 362 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,200 I've never seen the level of demon possession 363 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,440 or oppression or whatever you want to call it. 364 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,280 I don't care what you call it. 365 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Just let's say people that the devil is tormenting. 366 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Like they're in the service. 367 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,760 And this is before Locke gets there, who's a big demon guy. 368 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Just like we're walking in the church building 369 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,760 and people that are oppressed of the devil 370 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,800 are running to us around the building. 371 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Me and one of my friends, Pastor Shane Warren, 372 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,680 pray for me, pray. 373 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,440 I got these issues and you can tell when it's demonic, 374 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,280 it's different, right? 375 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Just total spirit of fear and freaked out. 376 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,280 And then we get in the service. 377 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,120 And like I'll give you an example. 378 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,520 One night I called people up. 379 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,560 People have been getting healed, 380 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,040 like 20 people getting testified in the church. 381 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,880 They just received healing. 382 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Our teams praying for them and God's moving. 383 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,200 And then I call people up for salvation 384 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,080 before Khan ever speaks. 385 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,480 And I got words of knowledge on several of these people 386 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,320 that are up there. 387 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,360 And I get to one and full-fledged manifests of devil, 388 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,720 start screaming out, falls on the ground, 389 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,840 almost right in front of Khan's on the, 390 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,320 sitting on the front row. 391 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 And we minister to him and there's kids getting saved 392 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,080 in this altar call too. 393 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,920 And they're looking, you know, 394 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,920 not everybody's seen a devil just cried out and screaming. 395 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,960 And I'm like, don't pay attention to that, honey. 396 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,600 That's just a devil. 397 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,160 We're gonna focus on Jesus. 398 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Pastor comes out, I mean, 399 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,600 I'm trying to pass for these teenagers. 400 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,920 They get freaked out. 401 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,560 But I'm like, that was happening four or five times a night. 402 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,400 I don't know. 403 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Like I pastored in Owensboro, 404 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,760 pioneered a church there in 0405. 405 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,920 And I don't know what's, 406 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 it's always been a witchy kind of city, 407 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,160 to be honest, for Kentucky. 408 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,800 It's an old river town. 409 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,040 And a lot of times I think those type of, 410 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,520 I don't know, you know, occultic stuff or witch stuff, 411 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,160 palm readers, all that kind of stuff 412 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,840 that comes and demonizes a city, 413 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,160 went down the river ways early on. 414 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,160 And you can find it in old river towns. 415 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Used to, I rented an office from people 416 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,960 that owned the first New Age store in that town. 417 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,520 But it's gone to another level now. 418 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,960 And I don't know, I think it's that coupled with the drugs 419 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,360 and the fentanyl coming up from our southern border. 420 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,160 I think there's a lot of occult practices 421 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,960 in the cartel thing, right? 422 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,600 You know, they got their patron saint of drug running, 423 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,680 they pray to. 424 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Then they employ a lot of witches 425 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,200 to pray over the dope and stuff. 426 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,720 And I mean, you don't go to any major city in America 427 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,520 right now without seeing fentanyl junkies 428 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,520 and meth heads on every corner. 429 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,320 But in a little town of 50,000, 430 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:24,880 it really sticks out, right? 431 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,640 Cause it's a small place. 432 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,280 And the town is getting like that. 433 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,600 So when we start preaching the gospel over there, 434 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,320 man, the demons just crowd of people 435 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,520 and they've gotten demonized. 436 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Jesus is setting them free. 437 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,120 But it's even just going down to the like walking in town 438 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:43,240 by myself, demon possessed people are finding me everywhere 439 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,360 during the day. 440 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,000 So I mean, my wife is like, 441 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,440 this is getting out of control, Brian. 442 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,360 Like I'm walking and demon possessed people 443 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:51,760 are screaming at me from the top of parking garages 444 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,280 and stuff and coming up and trying to talk to me. 445 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,880 We're ministering Jesus to them. 446 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Cause when you're talking to people like that, 447 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,560 there's two entities you're talking to. 448 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,080 There's the human in there, right? 449 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,320 That is drawn to you and drawn to the Jesus in you 450 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,160 really cause they need deliverance. 451 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,120 And then there's the demon that is possessed 452 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:11,160 and vexed them. 453 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,760 And a lot of Christians aren't used to that, 454 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,280 but it's all over the New Testament. 455 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,160 They'll try on Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. 456 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,120 They'd learn something about the Jesus who breaks chains. 457 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:20,560 Yeah, absolutely. 458 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,240 And I know that, you just mentioned that pastor Greg Locke, 459 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,200 God's using him mightily in deliverance right now. 460 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,560 But when you guys first started working together 461 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,720 and ministering together, 462 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,880 he, brother, you were a big part of him, 463 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,760 coming to the knowledge of the Holy Spirit 464 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,400 and leaving his cessationist ways behind. 465 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Could you tell me, could you tell us a little bit about 466 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,040 early Greg Locke and what you see now 467 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,280 and the transformation that's been happening? 468 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,600 Yeah, I used to see Locke, 469 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,760 he blew up on Facebook years ago. 470 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,800 And I'm a bit outspoken too 471 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,640 and people would send me videos of him. 472 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,440 And at the time I'm like, whatever, you know. 473 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,000 But Locke and I got, 474 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,800 we started pushing back against the lockdowns 475 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,880 and he got loud and I was loud. 476 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,520 And yeah, I think back then I was on some of Charisma 477 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,320 podcast back then with the strength, right? 478 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,360 So I did some over that and Locke's around, 479 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:24,280 around voices back then like Pastor Rodney Howard Brown 480 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,640 was a voice at the time. 481 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,880 There were different guys. 482 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,400 What's his name out in California? 483 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,400 Jack Hibbs became a voice, Rob McCoy became a voice in that. 484 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,480 The guy down in Louisiana, they kept arresting, 485 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,040 I forget his name, but he became a voice during the time. 486 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,360 That brother held the line. 487 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,440 I gotta say about him, he held the line. 488 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,440 I don't know him, but I'll tip my hat to him. 489 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,440 But we were doing a rally in Kentucky, 490 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,560 in Frankfort at the Capitol. 491 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,840 And I called Locke and said, Locke, why don't you come over? 492 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,000 You know, I know you're with us aligned on this politically. 493 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,240 And like, there's Mike Pence's fly again, 494 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,480 aligned with us politically. 495 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,200 Cause we don't think the government should, 496 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,080 we don't think politicians tell prophets what to do. 497 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,120 I think prophets tell politicians what to do. 498 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,920 And I don't care what, whatever they're selling, 499 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,760 I'm not smoking. 500 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,120 I got a first amendment right to keep the church open. 501 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,600 I don't care what's happening. 502 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,200 And so Locke goes on the road with me 503 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840 and we preach in like 30 states together. 504 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,640 And I didn't know he's a full fledged cessationist 505 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,920 and that he hated Charismatics back then. 506 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,000 I didn't know he'd written books about guys like me, 507 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,360 but I'm driving down the road 508 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,520 and he and I rented a car together, we're riding together. 509 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,320 And a guy calls me, a friend of mine, Pastor Shane Warren. 510 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,800 And he's like, hey, Gibson, 511 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,320 are you ministering with Locke right now? 512 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,120 I'm like, yeah, he's like, he hates guys like you. 513 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:49,800 So he says on the phone and I'm like, I'm riding by him. 514 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760 I'm like, well, we're getting along pretty good right now. 515 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,400 Things are going. 516 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,400 I didn't even know how bad I was freaking Locke out 517 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560 because we're like driving in the car forever 518 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,920 and flying on planes together. 519 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,440 But I pray in tongues a lot. 520 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,360 And instead of cussing when somebody pulls over on me 521 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,640 in an interstate, I think it's better. 522 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,800 My flesh wants to cuss. 523 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960 I think it's better to talk in tongues. 524 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,880 And my wife's a lot happier with me 525 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,680 when I talk in tongues instead of cussing. 526 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,520 So it's a habit. 527 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,200 I just pray in tongues and I remember Locke looking over 528 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,840 at me like what in the world's happening? 529 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,160 But he would watch us and I would give words 530 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,440 and knowledge and prophesy as we were traveling. 531 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,560 And he kind of figured out, he's like, 532 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,000 man, this guy's not crazy, 533 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,520 at least not totally crazy, right? 534 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,000 And God was already speaking to him. 535 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,800 He's looking in the Bible. 536 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,520 And so Locke saw that what we were doing, that it's real. 537 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,560 And the spirit of God was working on him. 538 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760 I think there was kind of culmination of that. 539 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:44,880 And Locke tells this story, 540 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,520 I think it's in one of his books. 541 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,480 He comes over to my church house in Owensboro, 542 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,120 the church we pastor. 543 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,480 I always call it the church house 544 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,720 because it's not the church, right? 545 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,440 It's where the church meets. 546 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,280 So- 547 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,100 I like how you'd make that distinction. 548 00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:57,940 That's good. 549 00:21:57,940 --> 00:21:58,780 Yeah, yeah. 550 00:21:58,780 --> 00:21:59,620 I try to help people theologically like that. 551 00:21:59,620 --> 00:22:00,920 It's the church house. 552 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,960 And I had a friend of mine from Columbia. 553 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600 He's a prophet, Gustavo Piaz. 554 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Piaz is like the highest level male reader 555 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,360 I've ever seen in my life, right? 556 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:14,000 It's like, holy moly, this is insane. 557 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,160 So he tells Locke almost everything 558 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,060 he's ever done in his life, 559 00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:19,880 prophesies over all of his children, 560 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,560 Locke's childhood, all this stuff, and Locke's just undone. 561 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800 And I think that changed everything 562 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,360 in their life and ministry. 563 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,600 So he wrote a book about it. 564 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,280 I think y'all carry the book. 565 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,960 It's maybe accessing or anointing, 566 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,800 or it's something about the anointing. 567 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,440 I don't know, maybe, maybe not. 568 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,240 But all of our books got these anointing titles. 569 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,400 So it's some book with anointing in the title. 570 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280 So in the book, he tells the story 571 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,200 of how God touched him that way. 572 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480 And then he comes to our church 573 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,200 and he's preaching about that. 574 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,760 And demons start screaming out in the room, all right? 575 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,440 So there's like five or six of them that night, 576 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,740 which was uncommon at the time. 577 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:03,720 It seems more common right now. 578 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,240 I think our culture with all the crazy stuff 579 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,120 that's been loosed in our culture, 580 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,480 with the sexual, you know, just green light. 581 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,720 You can be a trisexual, try whatever you want. 582 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,560 You know, and us applauding, not us, 583 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,720 but people applauding it in our school systems. 584 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,720 It's getting more demonized. 585 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,120 But that night people were screaming out and stuff, 586 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,720 and Locke didn't know what to do with them at the time. 587 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,000 And there's a woman like manifesting on the front row. 588 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680 You know, she's dancing, she's doing all kinds of weird, 589 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,880 devils come to distract. 590 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,180 So it's kind of sensual what she's doing 591 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:35,440 and she's manifesting. 592 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,360 And I walked down right in front of Locke and the woman, 593 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,600 and I'm like, come out of her in Jesus name. 594 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,200 And she goes down and starts to ride them 595 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,120 and the devil starts coming out of her. 596 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,680 And afterwards I'm like, hey, Locke, 597 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,360 do you see all those demons screaming in the service 598 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,000 when you started preaching? 599 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,400 I'm like, I'm pretty sure God's doing something here 600 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,800 and he wants to use you to set the demon disaster free. 601 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,520 And it was a prophetic moment in Locke's life. 602 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,380 I think he talks about it in one of the recent books. 603 00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:05,900 And then there were other things coupled with that. 604 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:08,100 And then he dove in, he went all the way in, right? 605 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,720 He started studying all the, everybody 606 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,060 and all these other guys, this is what they do. 607 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:18,060 I'm a pastor, I'm not just a specialist in deliverance 608 00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:21,740 or specialist in the prophetic or you know what I mean? 609 00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:25,180 I'm a general practitioner, I'm a pastor, church planner. 610 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:27,660 But he got in deep and God's used him. 611 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:31,020 I mean, the books come out, the movie, millions of watch. 612 00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:32,860 And the guys he had on there, 613 00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:38,420 when you first get into a movement like that 614 00:24:38,420 --> 00:24:39,980 and you don't know everybody, 615 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:42,340 some of the voices you get connected with are good voices, 616 00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:43,600 some are bad voices. 617 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:45,980 He invited me to preach 618 00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:48,500 at that first deliverance conference he had 619 00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:51,820 and I didn't want to go because I didn't know all the guys 620 00:24:51,820 --> 00:24:54,700 and I'm real careful who I link arms with, right? 621 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,900 Maybe I'm a little looser than I used to be now 622 00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:01,700 because, but anyway, Locke's learned some lessons 623 00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:05,780 in that area, God teaches us all lessons. 624 00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:07,980 And a lot of people will judge you 625 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:10,360 on something you did a couple of years ago 626 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,700 when you're a different man now. 627 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,260 And Locke's a different man 628 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:16,300 and God's changing him every day. 629 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:20,820 I love him, I'm committed to him as a man and a man of God. 630 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:24,740 And I'm thankful that we got to be a little part 631 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:27,300 of the story that what God's doing in him. 632 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,260 Amen, amen, that's exciting. 633 00:25:29,260 --> 00:25:30,260 Thank you for sharing that. 634 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:33,180 And I want to, we're kind of coming down, 635 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:35,740 coming towards the end of this interview right now, 636 00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:37,220 which I think this is going to be the first 637 00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:40,060 of many interviews because I just enjoy talking with you 638 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:41,380 and hearing what God's doing. 639 00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:45,280 But I want to hear, you've been able to sustain this revival 640 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,580 in these two different areas 641 00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:48,420 or actually a couple of different areas 642 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,140 for a little while now. 643 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:53,600 What is it, I mean, we talked about what sparked it, 644 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,260 but what are you believing is going to sustain this revival? 645 00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:01,620 Well, number one, I have no idea what I'm doing, all right? 646 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:03,320 Just put that out there, right? 647 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,940 I've never tried, I just don't know what I'm doing. 648 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,180 But God's doing something. 649 00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:09,820 I mean, I'm not an idiot, not a total idiot, 650 00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:12,380 but I don't know what I'm doing right now. 651 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:15,220 I think I've been talking to guys 652 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:18,320 that have had these kinds of revivals that keep going. 653 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,860 Because we've been successful planning churches 654 00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:22,240 and we've always moved into gifts, 655 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,020 but never an extended revival. 656 00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:26,840 First one, I'm 20 years into this. 657 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:32,300 So I know this, passion for Jesus is paramount. 658 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,100 So I'm trying to keep him centered. 659 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:35,460 Now keep reminding the crowd, 660 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:38,380 hey, tonight we have a special guest, right? 661 00:26:38,380 --> 00:26:41,300 Tonight we have a special guest. 662 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,300 And his name is Jesus. 663 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:45,140 There's no other guest, 664 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:47,260 there's nobody else I want to host. 665 00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:49,820 I know, I'm going to eat with one of the pastors 666 00:26:49,820 --> 00:26:53,740 of the largest church in the world, like on what is tonight, 667 00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:55,700 on the 31st. 668 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,380 I sat with all those guys, knew all those guys, 669 00:26:57,380 --> 00:27:00,340 knew Dr. Joe before he went to heaven. 670 00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:01,700 The old generals, I know all those guys. 671 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,180 I loved them all, appreciate them. 672 00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:06,460 But there's nobody like Jesus. 673 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:11,180 So CEOs, I know them, presidents, families, I know them. 674 00:27:11,180 --> 00:27:12,740 I want to know Jesus. 675 00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:15,500 So I keep that, I'm trying to keep that first and foremost, 676 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,240 number one, try not to touch it, 677 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,060 get in the way, not mess it up. 678 00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:22,740 Secondly, I think we got to pray more, right? 679 00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:25,420 I mean, this is just Christianity 101. 680 00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:28,900 Attacks come, right? 681 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:31,860 I got some real lessons during the lockdowns. 682 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:34,980 I got involved politically about keeping the church open 683 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:37,720 and it wasn't just a local church fight. 684 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,380 It was like a national governance fight. 685 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:42,780 And people say new level, new devil. 686 00:27:42,780 --> 00:27:47,780 I learned that at a higher level than I've ever experienced. 687 00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:48,620 Right? 688 00:27:48,620 --> 00:27:50,940 So I want to get people praying for us. 689 00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:55,500 Like even last night, like I was, I'm moving slow 690 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:56,940 because middle of the night, I get a call 691 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:59,580 and the devil attacked my brother's health last night. 692 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,540 My brother went down in front of his wife, 693 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,740 got up straight up out of bed, threw up, 694 00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:08,340 said, call the ambulance, something's bad wrong with me. 695 00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:09,540 He's not that kind of guy. 696 00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:12,460 So we were all up praying in the spirit, he's in Kentucky. 697 00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:15,460 I'm in Texas and we're up binding and loosening last night 698 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:17,220 at like two in the morning. 699 00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:21,340 And the devil, you know, you just get uncommon attacks 700 00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:22,900 when stuff like this is happening. 701 00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,620 Don't fear it, right? 702 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:25,580 We don't have a spirit of fear. 703 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:27,300 We have authority over the devil, 704 00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,620 but raising up that shield of faith with prayer. 705 00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:33,340 We need people praying for us, praying for our team, 706 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:35,780 praying for safety, praying for protection. 707 00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:37,580 I think prayer's big there. 708 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:41,100 I think gospel preaching, simple gospel. 709 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,860 The ultimate form of spiritual warfare 710 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:46,900 is the verbal proclamation of the gospel, the kerygma. 711 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:47,740 Right? 712 00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:49,500 The coming Messiah, death, burial, resurrection, 713 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,420 repent, believe, come on, he's coming back. 714 00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:55,180 I think preaching that feeds any revival. 715 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:59,220 And I think just learning to steward it well. 716 00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:00,980 I think what we're going to is we'll probably do 717 00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:04,580 three days a week in both locations, right? 718 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:06,940 I like do a week over here, three days, 719 00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:08,580 then take it over here. 720 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,620 And right now it feels like wherever we go, 721 00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:14,020 revival's going with us, which is crazy. 722 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:17,420 Like one of my campus pastors, Pastor Jordan Chrysley 723 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:20,020 in Owensboro went to a funeral this week 724 00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:21,380 in the middle of this revival. 725 00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:24,340 A guy, I don't know, I forgot what killed him, young guy. 726 00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:27,180 Small group, like, I don't know, 75 people in the room, 727 00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:30,100 20 people got saved in the funeral, right? 728 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,980 My wife went to the salon, right? 729 00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:35,500 Because her anointing is like when she gets her hair done 730 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,260 and her nails done and all that stuff. 731 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:39,900 So she's in the salon, and my wife's a better preacher 732 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:41,860 than I am, she's a fireball. 733 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:45,660 But they are asking, we do a lot of trips to Israel, 734 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:48,020 and they're asking, hey, what's happening in Israel? 735 00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:49,660 Is this the end, the girls? 736 00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:50,580 Is Jesus coming back? 737 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:52,540 And she, is Jesus coming back? 738 00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:54,060 And three or four of the hairdressers, 739 00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:55,900 she has an altar call in the salon, 740 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:58,500 they get born again in the salon, right? 741 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,180 This Sunday in our Henderson campus, 742 00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:03,060 we baptized over 60 people this Sunday 743 00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:05,700 from the revival in our campus. 744 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,540 So Henderson, we just pioneered that church, 745 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:09,940 I don't know, three years ago, 746 00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:11,780 and it's hitting about 300 people on the Sunday 747 00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:12,780 in the morning right now. 748 00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:14,900 And it'd be bigger, but the church is too small, 749 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,900 we need a miracle. 750 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,740 So they're baptizing 10 people over there, 751 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:22,460 and 11 more people that are just in the room that get saved 752 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:24,020 decide they need to get water baptized, 753 00:30:24,020 --> 00:30:28,140 run up and get baptized in their good clothes, 754 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:29,820 walk home wet. 755 00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:33,220 Pastor John Tatum was doing that in Henderson. 756 00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:35,620 We just want to, we need an awakening, 757 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:37,980 we need no revival, we need, we revival, 758 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:39,780 and I believe this, I believe revival isn't coming, 759 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:41,140 I believe it's here. 760 00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:42,740 It will operate in it, 761 00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:45,820 and we'll walk humbly before the Lord. 762 00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:49,180 And I think God, you know, in a lot of ways, 763 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:52,020 He allowed us to be broken over the last few years, 764 00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:54,340 so He could pour out a blessing, 765 00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:56,780 and we just want to do it well. 766 00:30:56,780 --> 00:30:57,620 Amen. 767 00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:59,740 You know, Pastor Brian, as you're talking about this 768 00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:00,900 and you're sharing those stories, 769 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:04,460 I'm reminded of the passage in Acts where the, 770 00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:05,860 I forget what town it was, 771 00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:08,180 but they said the people that have turned the world 772 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,540 upside down have come here as well. 773 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:13,580 And so the revival, we're going with them, 774 00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:14,780 and what you're seeing, 775 00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:17,140 and as you said it so eloquently earlier, 776 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:18,980 is that no matter where we're going, 777 00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:20,820 the revival is gonna break out. 778 00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:23,620 And there's faith in that declaration, 779 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,140 and there's faith in that, 780 00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:28,220 because we know that revival's not isolated 781 00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:30,580 to a physical location. 782 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:32,060 Revival can go with you, 783 00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:33,580 because it's the Holy Spirit moving, 784 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:35,140 it's drawing people to Jesus. 785 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:37,380 We know that nobody comes to Jesus 786 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:39,500 unless the Holy Spirit draws them. 787 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:41,700 And Jesus is our special guest. 788 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:43,820 And Pastor Brian, we talked about prayer, 789 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:46,820 and I want to ask you to pray for those that are watching, 790 00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:50,980 that they would really treat Jesus as a special guest. 791 00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:53,220 And however it is that you want to pray, 792 00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:55,580 I just want to kind of release you for that. 793 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,180 And I just believe that there can be revival 794 00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:01,180 breaking out from people watching this interview, 795 00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:02,420 that this video right now, 796 00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,700 and as they share that with their friends and family, 797 00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:06,860 that they can be a part of this revival. 798 00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:09,020 Would you just pray for them right now? 799 00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:10,220 Amen, I love that, John. 800 00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:11,740 I love what you said about these men 801 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:13,580 that have turned the world upside down 802 00:32:13,580 --> 00:32:14,940 from the book of Acts. 803 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:15,780 I believe that. 804 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:18,220 I want to pray along those lines. 805 00:32:18,220 --> 00:32:19,660 And I can feel the power, 806 00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:23,420 the physical power of God on me right now for revival, 807 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:24,860 and that's Jesus. 808 00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:27,420 So Lord, we come boldly to your throne right now 809 00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:30,540 in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. 810 00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:32,020 We thank you that he's the healer. 811 00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:34,180 We thank you that he's the chain breaker. 812 00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:36,940 We thank you that he's the one that sends revival. 813 00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:40,540 He is the one that baptizes in Holy Spirit fire. 814 00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:42,660 Right now, Father, we pray that we would be like the book 815 00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:45,340 of Acts, men and women, that everywhere we go, 816 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:47,100 that your name would be lifted up 817 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,140 and that you would be the special guest. 818 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,060 So Father, I pray now you would come and bless John 819 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:52,900 and his household. 820 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,420 You would bless the organization 821 00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:56,140 that he represents, Charisma. 822 00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:59,460 I pray right now as well that you would continue your work 823 00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:01,060 in the churches we lead 824 00:33:01,060 --> 00:33:04,380 and that it would roll over to other churches. 825 00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:07,980 I declare my cup runneth over from Psalm 23 826 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:09,980 and let it go all over the state of Texas. 827 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:12,260 Let it go all over Kentucky, Tennessee, 828 00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:14,820 all over the Southeast, into California, 829 00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:16,380 into Seattle, Washington. 830 00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:19,620 Father, I declare revival fire is coming 831 00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:21,580 and flowing and moving. 832 00:33:21,580 --> 00:33:23,260 Right now, I thank you that in this revival, 833 00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:25,140 you're tapping on the shoulders 834 00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:26,980 and the heads of young men and women. 835 00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:29,540 Father, I pray you raise up prophets and pastors 836 00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:32,740 and teachers and apostles and that you raise up kings 837 00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:35,380 that are business leaders and they're in the marketplace 838 00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:36,300 making a difference. 839 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:37,820 Raise up priests, Father, 840 00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:40,060 those that take care of the house of God. 841 00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:42,700 Lord, I thank you that revival's coming 842 00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:44,900 and the dead things are living again. 843 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,220 I say the fire of God and the breath of God are blowing 844 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,340 over dead things, Father. 845 00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,340 Dead bones and dry bones are raising up even now. 846 00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:56,260 I know that there's a rise of the beast system 847 00:33:56,260 --> 00:33:57,420 all over the world, 848 00:33:57,420 --> 00:34:00,180 but I thank you that there's a rise of the bride 849 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:02,140 that's even stronger right now. 850 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:05,420 I thank you that the bride is more powerful than the beast. 851 00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:09,140 I declare the bride is more powerful than the beast. 852 00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:12,740 I said the bride is more powerful than the beast. 853 00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:16,660 So empower your bride, give them passion for Jesus, 854 00:34:16,660 --> 00:34:18,180 touch them and change them. 855 00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:21,620 Lord, signs, wonders, miracles, salvations, 856 00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:24,420 let them flow, let that anointing hit every leader, 857 00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:25,540 every church person, 858 00:34:25,540 --> 00:34:28,820 every just Jesus-honoring person watching. 859 00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:30,620 We say there's a new authority. 860 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,140 Say revival's not coming. 861 00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:35,940 Revival is here, in Jesus' name. 862 00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:37,900 Amen. 863 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:38,900 Amen. 864 00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:41,620 Pastor Brian Gibson of His Church, 865 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:45,380 thank you so much for being here on Charisma News 866 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:47,620 to talk about what God is doing. 867 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:50,580 This is powerful and I love hearing what God's doing 868 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:52,780 and I can't wait to hear more from you 869 00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:54,900 about how God is moving in this. 870 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:55,740 Thank you. 871 00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:56,700 Hey, it's an honor, John. 872 00:34:56,700 --> 00:35:01,700 You're just out of trouble, huh?