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Eight minutes later, a guy dropped dead up in the balcony of the church.

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And now the prophecy means something, right?

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There's a dead man in the balcony.

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Pastor Brian, I want to hear what God is saying to you about the year 2024.

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So welcome to Charisma News.

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Hey, it's it's an honor to be with you.

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Thank thanks so much for having me, brother.

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Yeah, his church, you know, we hang our hat on this fact.

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Matthew 16, 18, Jesus said, I will build my church

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and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

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And that's like the cornerstone scripture for my life,

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because I believe Jesus is building this church, which is all of us

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and that we're literally tougher than hell.

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Like my favorite place on earth is up in northern Israel, Caesarea, Philippi.

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And that's where Jesus took his disciples

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to what they thought were the gates of hell back then.

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And that's the mouth of the Jordan River back in the day.

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You ever been up there, John? Yeah, I have, actually. Yeah.

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Yeah. You know how wicked it looks at the bottom of that big cliff?

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I mean, it really does. Yeah.

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It looks like it's a portal to hell.

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And I think that's what the church should be.

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We should get up and eat our breakfast, drink our coffee, right?

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Right by the gates of hell, because we're there to rescue people out from hell.

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And the church is the best whenever it's looking for the lost.

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And we're probably the worst when we're self-focused.

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So very well said to a friend.

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Yeah, I think that's when we're the best when we're serving others.

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And when we're always just focused on me, we're messing stuff up.

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So, yeah, God's poured out a revival at at the church.

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And I think it's kind of despite us.

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And I think he's honestly trying to get us to look for him.

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I was sitting in a service, the thing that kicked off.

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Maybe I said this last time we got interviewed,

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but my wife got up and gave a prophetic word in the service.

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She said, you'll live and not die.

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Right. It's a worship service.

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You'll live and not die.

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Declare the works of the Lord.

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And I'm like, well, that's nice, honey.

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I'm on the front row. I'm like, that's great.

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That's a that's a scripture.

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I wouldn't have shut down the worship service for it.

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But all right, whatever.

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Till eight minutes later, a guy dropped dead up in the balcony of the church.

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And wow. And now the prophecy means something. Right.

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There's a dead man in the balcony.

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So all the medical people go up there, they start working on him,

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doing what they do. Thank God for him.

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And we're all praying.

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And I walk up there and they said his pulse would come and then it was go would go.

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So I don't know how dead he was on a scale of one to dead.

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I'll leave that for everybody else to figure out.

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But when I got to him, the brother's white, his tongue's hanging out of his mouth.

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His eyes are rolled back in his head. Oh, my gosh.

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I've been around a lot of dead folk, you know, as a preacher, burying people.

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I'm like, this guy looks dead.

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So I walked up, everybody's praying, laid my hand on him, said,

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I agree with what was prophesied.

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You'll live and not die. Declare the works of the Lord.

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And I said, I rebuke death and command life into you.

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Whenever I did it, brother's eyes open up, tongue goes back into his mouth.

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He cocks his head up and he says, I'm fine.

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Right. Oh, my gosh.

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And it's like it's on around here. Right.

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What's funny is the revival didn't really break out that week.

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It was just like the beginning of a few things were happening.

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But after after that, I mean, stuff starts just happening.

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Like a kid's out front, laying on the concrete in front of the church,

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strung out looking, it looks crazy.

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And he was crazy and a lot of addiction and stuff.

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I went out there and it's like, hey, man, what can I help you?

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He's just laying there. It's an odd place to be laying.

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Our church is not like downtown where you would have like, like, you know,

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some downtowns, that's like every downtown American,

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people laying on the floor.

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He's like holding on to the threshold.

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And the kid says, my mom brought me here when I was a little boy.

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Not a thought if I got here, I started walking across town this morning.

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Maybe I could find God.

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And God's drawing people and that's kept going.

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And it started in a service.

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Literally, we felt like angels were pushing us out of the way.

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Like some brushing me. I couldn't see.

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I had four preachers testify. They felt the same thing.

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And it's like almost like you ever get bumped in the hallway when you were a kid

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in school, get out of my way.

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It's almost like an angel shoulder checked me.

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And it was like, get out of the way, Brian. I got work to do here.

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And so that's what we've started doing and stuff's happening.

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It's crazy.

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So you've literally seen the dead come to life again.

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You shall live and not die.

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What a prophetic word.

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What a prophetic manifestation and completion about that.

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I mean, that's powerful.

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I mean, that's something that I think every believer longs to see,

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the dead come back to life.

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And that's so cool.

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So we're talking about the revival that's happening.

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You said that there's just incredible things that are happening there.

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But we also want to talk about the next year.

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We're coming into 2024.

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And so Pastor Brian, what is it that God is speaking to you

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prophetically about the year 2024?

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Well, we have an election year coming up, right?

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So everybody wants to know what's up with the election year and to prepare for an

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election year, my wife and I sat down and watched episode one of the Hunger Games

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the other day, right?

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It's like, this thing, it always gets bloody and it always gets brutal.

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Let me say this.

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I'll say this.

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That's a prophetic thing I'm saying right now.

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It's more than just the movie.

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It's going to be how hungry is the church and how hungry is the camp of darkness,

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which will set up the stage for what happens in 2024.

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They asked me during the last election year who I thought would win.

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And all these people, people that I'm connected to as well, prophesying Trump's

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going to win, Trump's going to win, Trump's going to win.

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And I said, I think America will get what we deserve, right?

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Thank God we don't always get what we deserve.

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But I thought like, we're going to get what we've set up for during that last

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election and that's really what happened.

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I think this year I'll go with that Hunger Games word.

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And it's like, what are you hungry for?

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I think the camp of darkness is more hungry for iniquity and confusion and pain and

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trauma and turmoil.

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And they're hungry to demonize young minds and to destroy worldviews.

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And so therefore when the enemy comes in, right, the original language says,

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like a flood, God lifts up a standard.

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So I think God's igniting a holy hunger in the saints.

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And what we're seeing right now at the end of 2024, I see revival breaking out not

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just in our church, but around America, little pockets of it.

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America.

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And I think it's starting to gain steam.

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And I almost see it like, it's like a kid on a bicycle headed downhill and the chain

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begins to break and you lose control of the bike yourself and the bike starts moving

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at a rapid pace.

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And I think if the church will allow God to come in and do what he wants to do, that

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he's going to break the chain and we're going to start to head with a rapid pace towards

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revival.

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It's an acceleration.

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I think darkness is going to come to America at an unprecedented rate already has, that

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that will also accelerate.

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But that what God's going to do in the church will be an acceleration.

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I see in 2024, a lot of lampstands being extinguished.

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Every church has a lampstand.

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And I think God said for many years, I started prophesying this, I don't know, maybe in 2012.

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Book of Revelation, Jesus comes to the church every, and the lampstand is a symbol of the

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church.

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It's a messenger and which is the main elder or leader of the church.

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And Jesus gives them both, hey, you did this well.

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And then he starts to rebuke them, the seven churches of Asia minor.

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I think a lot of lampstands will be put out in 2024.

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God spoke to me years ago and he said this, he said, I mean, it's strong language.

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He talks to me like this.

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I don't know.

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He said, damn the lampstands and the spotlights that shine upon the wrong things, for they

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shall be broken.

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And at the time I was running with a lot of pastors from lampstands that have been taken

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out very publicly in the last couple of years.

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And my wife and I were grieved by some of the actions we would see going on at these

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I think we've got to live right.

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Come out from amongst them, be ye separate, saith the Lord, touching out the unclean thing,

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and I will receive you.

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And I'm not saying that to rebuke everybody because, you know, nobody's, I've missed steps

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And I've been broken at times as well.

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So I don't say that to rebuke people, but I understand there's a spiritual principle

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that if we live like the world, we're going to reap from the world.

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And if we live like the church, we'll reap from the church.

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So reap from the spirit of God.

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So there are lampstands that have been focused on the wrong things and they've been shining

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on the wrong things.

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And the attention is me, my build my platform, make me bigger, make me larger, whatever it

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And it's produced nothing.

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And I think one by one, a lot of those things are just getting moved out of the way.

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And I'm a part of the generation.

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I'm 46.

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We helped make church into a Christian concert.

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I grieve that.

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I lament that now.

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And you'd walk into my church and it would still look like that in a way.

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I mean, we got worship, we got music lights, LED, all that kind of stuff.

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All of that is a bunch of whatever, right?

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That's just teeing the ball up.

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That's just a tee, but that's not the ball we're swinging at.

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And I think everybody got so focused on this kind of world that we lost a morality.

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We lost all of these things that really mattered.

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Now we got a generation getting demonized.

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And the church that won't speak out of that, I kind of feel like God's going to say,

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why don't you just step aside?

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And those lampstands will be blown out.

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And then I think other lampstands are emerging 2024.

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They're emerging rapidly.

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They're people, they're not perfect, but they're pure of heart.

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God's starting to find them in obscure odd places.

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And their voices are going to be lifted up.

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I see them almost like they're on an escalator.

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And God's just taking them higher.

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We need a John the Baptist company, right, that'll prepare the way of the Lord.

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Because the beast system's rising all over the earth right now, rapidly.

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God's got to have a counterpunch.

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So that's what I see in 2024.

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And then you'll see some of the usual pre-election like chicanery or whatever you want to call it.

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There's always going to be that stuff, right?

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Because it's election season.

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It's dirty. It's nasty.

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And you know what, Pastor Brian, as you were talking about some of these things,

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I just felt led to ask you about gunshy prophets this next season.

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Because of what happened in 2020, I just felt like God gave me the phrase to ask you about gunshy prophets.

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Yeah, no, I was going to say that question's of the Lord.

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I mean, that's not a normal question you just asked.

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No, it's not.

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That's a fine prophetic question.

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I think the key to being prophetic, well, obviously it's the Spirit of God.

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But we prophesy in proportion to our faith.

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And don't let your faith be shipwrecked, man of God, man of woman, woman of God, man of God, woman of God.

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We know in part and we prophesy in part.

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So if you hang all of your hope and faith and whether you're right or not every time,

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you're putting your faith in your gift instead of the giver of the gift.

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Right. I prophesied the other day to Rabbi Jonathan Cahn.

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I was riding with him. He was preaching for me.

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And I gave him a word. And he's like, man, he made me prophesy like three times.

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Bring it back. So I prophesied off the stage. Now he wants me to give it again in the car.

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He's recording it all.

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And it all came to pass very rapidly with the attacks against him from the Rolling Stone,

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I think Boston Globe, a lot of those kind of attacks happened.

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He asked me after I prophesied, he said, do you ever get it wrong?

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And I thought that was a funny question from a seasoned man of God like him.

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I'm like, yeah, of course. I'm a person. Right. Of course I get it wrong.

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And he's like, that's the most honest answer prophetic personalities ever given me.

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I'm like, yeah, man, the Bible says we know in part and prophesy in part.

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So yes, you're going to get it wrong.

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But part of being used by the Spirit of God for the gifts of God,

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or you have to be willing to be wrong for the Spirit of God to be able to make you right.

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So prophesy boldly declare the word of the Lord. Right.

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We need you in this hour. And if you're wrong, repent. You're wrong.

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Whatever. You're a man. Ha, man. Missed it. Shocking, isn't it?

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It just blows me away. Now. So there are gunshot prophets, real prophets.

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Then there's what I can call I call it controlled opposition.

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Some of these people know to prophesy, but you already know that it's going to cost you a lot to prophesy the word of the Lord.

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It's going to cost you friends. It'll cost you speaking engagements.

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It'll probably cost you followers on social media.

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And if you don't say what they want to hear, you know, you're going to pay for it.

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And because of that, you become like controlled political opposition.

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What controlled opposition is in the political world is we'll let you have your opposing views.

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We'll let you even push against us up to a certain point.

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But it's this far no more because we got this on you.

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And if you go any further, we're going to destroy you.

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And this is what D.C. is full of right now. Right.

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It's why our Congress, our congressmen can't get anything done because they've slept around and they've taken money.

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And now they may be against this rising system on the earth, but they're controlled opposition.

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The churches that won't speak out against the wickedness in the land right now, all you are is controlled opposition.

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And you're different than a prophet that's fearful of missing it because he's fearful of missing it often because he doesn't want to disappoint God or people.

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You're you're doing what you're doing because you're compromised.

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And you need to rend your heart and rend your garments and go back to your first love.

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And and and prophesy the word of the Lord and forget the consequences because we're only here to pour out this life for Jesus.

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The car is everything. So be it. I'd be happy to dine at the marriage supper, the lamb tomorrow morning.

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Absolutely. Well, Pastor Brian, I appreciate you spending some time with me to talk about what God is speaking to you about 2024.

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And just to hear the incredible testimony of the dead truly coming back to life as a result of a prophetic word.

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So, brother, we got to stay in touch. I enjoy hearing I enjoy talking with you and hearing what God is saying and doing in and through you.

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So thank you so much for being here on Charisma News again. It's an honor, brother.

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You're just out of trouble, huh?