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You're listening to the Charisma Podcast Network.

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I'm Shelby Bowen.

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After spending 15 years in news, reaching thousands of people across the nation, former

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TV news anchor Brooke Martin found herself in a position she never imagined she would

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be in.

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In life, everyone will go through trials, hardships, and obstacles, but it's what you

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do or don't do in those moments that can shape and transform the course of your life forever.

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Stay tuned to listen to Brooke's story of discovering purpose in the valley.

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I think in all of our lives we can say that we have walked through trials, through hard

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moments, and through suffering that has brought us out stronger on the other side.

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But you may be listening right now and you are walking through a valley and it feels

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like there is no end.

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But I want to assure you today that God has a plan for your life and He is going to use

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your pain for a purpose.

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Today I have the honor and privilege of interviewing Brooke Martin and she's going to share a little

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bit of her journey and what she's walked through to encourage you in your life today.

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So welcome to Charisma News, Brooke.

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Thanks Shelby, it's so good to be here.

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So I was just super impressed with your story, more from a personal level as I was looking

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into everything that God's doing in your life.

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You were in news for about 15 years and have really, God has used you in mighty ways through

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interviews and reaching people and sharing impactful stories.

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So kind of tell us a little bit about who you are and then go ahead and go into your

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testimony and where you are today.

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Okay, so yeah, I've been in news for 15 years.

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I was born and raised in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and went to school at Temple University for

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broadcasting and multimedia and quickly landed a first job in Macon, Georgia, cutting my

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teeth there in the world of TV news and then moved on to Wichita, Kansas and lastly, Indianapolis,

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Indiana where most recently I was a main anchor here for WISH TV.

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And it was an amazing career journey that as you kind of touched on allowed me to tell

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so many stories and it was a privilege really to be allowed into everyone's homes every

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night and what I didn't expect is that, yeah, I would be telling my own story coming up

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in 2018 is when we were, my husband and I were pregnant with our second child and at

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about 14 weeks kind of a flu case of bronchitis took me into my OB and it was then that we

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discovered that our baby had a condition called anencephaly and that it was zero percent chance

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of survival and we had already announced our pregnancy on air and so everyone was following

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along as they do with the news anchors and we kind of got to a very abrupt crossroads

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where we immediately decided to carry our baby full term as long as she would survive

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but we also had to make the public announcement then to the viewers that this was our reality

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and so I had to begin walking through a pregnancy very publicly every night on the news as I

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would grow.

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You know, just everyone was leaning in very close as we walked through this and it was

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something that we never expected but something that God proved to be incredibly faithful

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through.

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Wow.

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I can't imagine as you're walking through such a hard moment and I know you're leaning

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on God in those moments with everything that you have just to get his strength and move

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when you feel like you have nothing left.

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I'm sure everybody who's watching has had those moments in their life.

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Talk to us a little bit about walking through that publicly especially with the decision

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that you made to carry full term because I'm sure there were people and I worked in news

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for a while you get people with send in messages whether they're nice, a lot of mean messages,

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critical messages.

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You know, walking through that publicly did you face feedback from people that was negative

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with your decision that you chose to make?

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Yeah, so I actually didn't receive a lot of negative feedback at least not to my face

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anyway.

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It was overwhelming support and the reason for that is that people cannot criticize your

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story.

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They can criticize decisions and you know how you wear your hair but your story and

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because it's so personal to you really what happened was people leaned in and many were

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very confused because with Ann and Suffley about 85% of pregnancies are terminated and

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so the fact that we chose to carry our daughter full term was unusual and so people were confused

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but we didn't hear at least to our faces any negative you know criticism or feedback.

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It was more confusion and what happened was it made people listen longer and sit closer

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as we walked through this journey because it was I mean I even had a friend come over

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to our house shortly after the diagnosis and through tears she said why are you doing this?

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You know and it was just this genuine like what are you doing?

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And what I mentioned earlier in our story was that in the ultrasound room as I was laying

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on the table right after I received the diagnosis the doctor walked out and I was alone and

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I just heard so clearly a whisper from the Lord to my heart of Emmanuel, Emmanuel, Emmanuel

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and it stopped me.

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I mean my tears stopped as if they were listening for a second and I was confused in the moment.

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I had thought about Christmas.

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I you know I was in shock I was like what is this word that I'm hearing and somebody

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else walked in and kind of disrupted my thought process at that time but I tucked that away

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and what I learned was that the Lord was supernaturally delivering a message through our daughter

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that He is with us and that He is enough even in the unthinkable, even in the unimaginable

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and it was the strength that we needed to anchor the news every night, to respond to

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questions like why are you doing this, to go to those doctor's appointments that I

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thought I physically could not get through and what I learned through this and what I

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was able to relay to everyone watching was that He is with us not only in the form of

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flesh and that's you know this time of year what we celebrate you know Emmanuel God with

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us.

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Yes, He came.

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He you know sacrificed.

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He rose again.

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All of these things of the utmost importance but we also have to remember that He told

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His disciples it's better that I leave you now and that part of the story is what impacted

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me so much and I thought why Lord, like why is it better that you leave us?

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You're Emmanuel.

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You're supposed to be with us and it's because I'm giving you the helper.

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I'm giving you the Holy Spirit and it was through this pregnancy of about six months

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that I came to know the helper in ways that I never experienced before and it born in

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me this hunger and this realization of what I was missing.

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You know I had been a Christian my whole life and had a personal relationship with the Lord

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and it was through our daughter's life that the Lord was sending a message to me personally

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that there is more.

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There's more for me.

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There is more for her.

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There is more for all of us if we are willing to lean into it and so different you know

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moments along the journey I experienced you know what I would consider miracles in our

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life and in the pregnancy and then you know delivery day was upon us March 15th 2019 and

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our daughter was named after her namesake Emma Noel Emmanuel and she was born alive

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and we had 21 minutes with her and it was an amazing time a very sacred time and yeah

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I can stop there but as far as your initial question about negative feedback no it was

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over it was overwhelmingly positive.

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That's that helps so much because I can't imagine having to deal with both of those

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at the same time but even being able to you know a lot of people have to walk through

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the hard times and then you know they really aren't seeing God using that until maybe like

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afterwards but really man just his faithfulness and how he was already using your story from

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that moment in the beginning and still now and man I was tearing up as you were talking

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just thinking about how amazing God is and how faithful he is and your mindset through

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it all is everything I know you know walking through my own trials and journeys when we

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have a mindset that isn't positive or we're not necessarily taking those bad thoughts

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captive and we're letting them sit and marinate and replay over and we're not healthfully

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processing through our emotions and grief it can lead to mental health issues and stuff

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like that so could you talk a little bit about how you kept your mind really focused on God

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on the Holy Spirit and bringing you through to a healthy you know mental place and now

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continuing to talk about it and use it for God's glory.

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Yeah so I would just say first and foremost that grace yeah I didn't do anything during

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my pregnancy that you know allowed me to survive it or that drew me close enough to the Lord

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so that you know I could I could get through it we were poured out we were grace was poured

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upon us and and that is the only the only thing that that got us through and allowed

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us to have the perspective that we had that being said when we got home after receiving

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the diagnosis and my husband and I were sitting on the couch we had varying degrees of faith

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at that point but we were desperate and we prayed one prayer together it was three words

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and we said God be glorified and we knew that we had no control over this we knew that we

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didn't have the strength to get through it we knew that we were not some spiritual giants

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you know but we knew that God could glorify himself through the situation and that was

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our prayer and we had no idea the scale or magnitude that he would take such a simple

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prayer and take our story around the world hundreds of thousands of people watched you

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know as we walked through this pregnancy and and I'm so grateful for that opportunity

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but more than anything I am so grateful for how the Lord transformed our own family through

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this and and truly did a miraculous work in the hearts of myself of my husband of our

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children to to take us into deeper waters and to usher us into a place where we are

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now truly surrendered to his will and his his plan for us and truly trusting I mean

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truly trusting that he is in control and how you can go from the loss of a child to a transformed

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faith is only through the grace of God but it starts with that prayer right God be glorified

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so often we're thinking you know why did this happen to me or what how do I get through

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this how and we're really you know focused on self and it's like if we can shift out

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and say God this is about you even though this is crushing me even though this is hurting

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me be glorified he will never not answer that prayer and he wants you know the Bible talks

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so much about suffering and so much about rejoicing in it and that that those verses

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used to always confuse me and now I get it because the Lord is saying it is in these

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times where I in the fires where I can mold you where I can truly fortify you like you

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affords you into what you are created to be because it's it's in those times where we

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allow ourselves to be shed of the of the coverings and the facades and everything that was keeping

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us going you know as a news anchor I was you know always worried about what people think

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right always trying to be you know right in everyone's eyes never wanting to step on toes

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and the Lord shed you know so much fear of man off of me in that season and and really

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got me to a place where I was vulnerable enough to hear from him and in a transformative way

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and to really hear his heart and so I would just say for anyone you know suffering I think

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back to Paul in Philippians when he's in prison I think it's I think it's in the first chapter

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but he writes to the church and he says I rejoice because I know that through your prayers

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and the work of the spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance this

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the suffering is going to be my deliverance right and and I and you think why is that

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and he says well it's my eager expectation and hope that I will not at all be ashamed

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but now as always Christ will be honored in my body whether through life or death and

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what this is about Shelby is this is saying we have got to take a higher perspective of

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understanding that the circumstances of this life are for the endgame like this is for

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his glory whatever that looks like however that looks like and because of his grace and

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his goodness what happens is that he flexes through our suffering in ways that will wreck

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us in the most beautiful ways but we have to keep our perspective aligned with that

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and keep it away from ourself because the enemy wants us to second guess the enemy wants

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us to to think that this is about us and what we deserve and and if we can keep our eyes

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focused on Jesus in our suffering there is no greater transformative tool in our life

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than suffering but we have to view it as that I remember Bill Johnson once said that you

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know very soon there's going to be a day where we will be in eternity with Jesus and

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it will be everything and more than we could ever hope and dream but for now for this blink

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of an eye of life this is the only chance we have to share in Christ's sufferings okay

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so we have this moment in time to lean into our heartache and grow closer to the Lord

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to be with him in the garden of Gethsemane and to understand that that cry of his heart

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those drips of blood that are saying Lord please take this from me the the day that

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I dreaded most in in my journey with Emma was not even her delivery or her death it

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was the day that we had to leave the hospital we were with her a couple days after she passed

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thanks to a cooling device called a cuddle caught she was allowed to be in our room and

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so it allowed bonding and closure it was a beautiful time but all throughout my pregnancy

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the one moment that I dreaded was leaving that hospital yeah because I thought how do

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you leave a hospital without your child yeah and that morning that we were being discharged

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I woke up and and tears were were already falling down my face and I cried out to the

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Lord and I said God I can't do this part like I literally physically could not do it and

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in that moment I felt a surge of strength rush just head to toe and and it was like

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as if heaven was being poured out upon me and I took a deep breath and Cole and I rocked

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Emma that morning and we spent time with her and when it was time to go we handed her to

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the nurse and we walked out of the hospital room and out of the hospital and we got in

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the car and we buckled our seat belts and I remember we looked at each other and we

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smiled and we thought what are we smiling about and it's like oh like this is the power

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of Jesus Christ living in us this is the power that he offers us if we surrender if we admit

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if we say we can't do this but you can your power is made perfect in my weakness and so

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it was just times like that where I was just like oh god you're so good you're so faithful

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and I know that we're gonna be with Emma forever in eternity yeah but for now but for now this

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is our chance to share in Christ's suffering and to get to know him on that level like

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what a beautiful gift but we have to understand that it's it's an invitation it's nothing

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that's forced upon us and so we have when we walk through suffering we're handed an

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invitation and we get to say yes or no to them and so often out of fear out of protection

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out of whatever we say no we want we'll handle it we'll we'll try and guard against it we'll

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get through it we'll survive and it's only in the surrender that we can see the beauty

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in it all wow it's so powerful thank you for sharing those moments so much of what you

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said resonated with me and I know you know a lot of these things are birthed out of the

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secret place in your time with God and so sharing them it's like almost letting people

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into that secret place that you have and and it's vulnerable but it's so impactful and

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just when you were talking about Bill Johnson and what he said so many times in my life

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I've meditated on that and you know walked through a trial and hardship not long ago

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and really what got me through was what you were talking about with identifying with Jesus

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in his pain and so it's like I'm sitting here and I'm praying and talking to him about what

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I'm going through and he's like and he just comes down to your level it's not like well

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what I did was so much more than what you're going through it's never like that he's so

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humble and he just comes down to your level and he's like I understand like I understand

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what you're going through I understand how you feel you know and it's like this is what

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I walked through and this is how I felt and I you know he like comes and we identify with

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him he identifies with us and it's really this exchange that's so beautiful and as you're

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talking I know everyone who's listening when you walk through those times you it's like

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a tangible thing it's like a it's part of your faith that's like something you can grab

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on to and just as you're talking about it I mean the power of God through what you're

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saying is going forth because it's so real it's not just something in a book that you're

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reciting but it's something you've lived out and you like carry it and so it's really really

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really powerful so thank you for sharing that I have one more question and then I want to

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tell people about your website and what you're doing because I just know that God's going

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to continue to use this story for his glory and in ways that you can't even imagine so

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my last question is for people who have walked through hard times and they're listening to

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this and they're saying hey actually like I didn't do this the right way I didn't identify

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with Jesus in his pain I did shut him off and they're having feelings of regret or shame

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like you know this happened in in time past and what would you tell them like how would

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how would you encourage them?

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It's never too late.

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Jesus is always there and he's always ready and willing to redeem the pain that has come

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and you know I would just say that the surrender is always an invitation there's no expiration

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date on it and so if you're still waiting in pain and grief the Lord wants to take it

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from you but you have to release it and sometimes our pain becomes like a security blanket we've

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known it for so long it's what we're used to and even the thought of releasing it can

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be scary but I would just say there is freedom you know like Jesus came for our freedom and

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we are not to be held captive by suffering and pain and God wants to redeem it and he

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will if you surrender it and so I would just say trust him and and really I would say get

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with people I think this has been such a huge part of our story is is finding a church body

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that you can be vulnerable with that you can be open with and who is chasing after the

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person of Jesus and the things of the Holy Spirit.

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You got to surround yourself with people I think we have become very isolated in our

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faith a lot of in a lot of ways and we have rediscovered the beauty of the bride of Christ

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through this journey it's another incredible gift that has come from this and so just get

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with people find your people and and really bring it to light bring the pain to light

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don't feel like it's too old or too stale or whatever bring it bring it up the Lord

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is ready and eager to heal.

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Brooke I just feel like the Holy Spirit put this on my heart would you pray for people

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just however you feel led?

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I would love to.

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Father you are good you are holy you needed each person in their mother's wombs and you

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know us so intimately and I just thank you for being a God who cares a God who cares

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so much that he sent his own son to die.

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Father I just pray over anyone listening right now who is still dealing with pain the effects

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of suffering and grief.

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Holy Spirit will you come will you fill them?

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I pray that Jesus through your power and your blood God that your sacrifice what you paid

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for on the cross God it covers this and so we just proclaim that power over the grip

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of fear the grip of sadness and despair.

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I ask for freedom right now in the name of Jesus for anyone listening God will you give

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them a desire a renewed hope a spark of motivation that leads them to surrender that leads them

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to seek out your body to seek out brothers and sisters who are chasing after you to seek

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out more of the Holy Spirit and the power Jesus that you have given each of us the power

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that made you say it's better that you leave now.

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Father will you give us revelation of your goodness and of your provision even in the

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fire God I pray that on the other side we will walk out unburned and stronger because

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of what we walked through draw us close in our suffering so that we can sit closer to

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you Jesus and learn more about you.

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We love you so much I just pray blessings over everyone listening I pray provision and

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healing in the name of Jesus amen.

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Thank you Brooke I know that a lot of people listening they need those prayers and it's

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really beautiful for everyone who's watching I just encourage you to go to morewithbrookemartin.com

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I know that I've been blessed from this conversation and I know that people who listening have

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been and on there you do coaching and maybe you could tell us a little bit more about

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what you do but you walk through this with people on your website you talk about how

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to identify how to heal and ways that lead to more beauty communicating your trial effectively

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including when to share and how much just a multitude of things that are just so useful

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that feel like a lot of people aren't learning anywhere else so could you share a little

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bit with us about what you do and how people can stay connected with you.

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Yeah sure yeah my website is morewithbrookemartin.com right now I'm doing some speaking and writing

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mostly and I do offer a free resource called proof in prayer that is sent to your inbox

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and it just has a guided prayer with me bi-weekly as well as some words and please feel free

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to sign up for that on my website again that's totally free and then beyond that connect

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with me on social media Instagram Facebook I love to keep in touch with people I am in

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the process of writing a curriculum that I really hope to get out soon just helping people

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walk through suffering because one of the things that we heard through our journey was

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we heard from so many people who are still really stuck in grief and so that curriculum

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hopefully will be coming out soon and yeah just stay tuned you know and feel free to

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shoot me a message if you ever need prayer or support I'm here and about a year ago I

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actually left news to just be here in this space and I'm not even honestly sure what

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it's what it's gonna end up looking like but I just felt the Lord calling me out and so

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please feel free to connect it's been it's been so much fun and such a blessing to connect

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with so many people.

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Well Brooke thank you so much for your time and again for everyone listening that's more

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with BrookeMartin.com I know that I will be keeping up to date with everything that you're

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doing because it is obvious that God is really going to use you in mighty mighty ways and

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so I am excited to see what he does but thank you everyone for listening and stay tuned

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