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This is John Matarazzo with Charisma News and I am excited to hear what God is saying

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for 2023 and Dr. Paula Price is with me right now because God has given her a word to share

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for 2023.

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Dr. Price, welcome to the podcast.

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It's great to have you here.

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What is God saying?

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Well, I want to say to you, thank you for inviting me.

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I'm enthusiastic about what God is saying and what He's doing and what I hope to come

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out of this time today, John, is that people recognize some things about the Almighty that

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we don't consider.

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For example, everything that I've been hearing from the Lord has been about God's future.

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He said to me, coming out the gate in the top of this year, He said, but you know, they're

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pursuing and they're petitioning me about their future, but I have a future.

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I'm contending with their past.

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What they've allowed, what they've caused to happen, what they did not even understand

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should have been prevented.

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And so as God and I began to talk, He said, I need you to ready my people for my future.

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I often recall August 2017 when God dropped on me when I was in Joliet, Illinois, saying

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that a hard reset is coming at that point.

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Who knew?

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And, but he kept saying it.

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He said, I'm telling you, the whole world is going into a hard reset.

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I'm resetting the planet.

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So when he said that I was all excited, I mean, because we thought it was good because

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we have an optimistic gospel.

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We have a gospel that tells us if it's good, it's God, and if it's not good, according

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to our estimation, then it is not God.

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So from 2017 all the way up to 2020, I was stunned, but I said, Ooh, hard resets is going

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to be great.

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This will be wonderful.

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Well, 2020 did hit us and we ended up with the COVID slam.

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And what we didn't realize was how devastating COVID was going to be to us.

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For example, shutting our churches down, of course, losing our loved ones.

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And all of those kinds of things.

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And our immediate response was, mine included, that wasn't God.

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And the Holy Spirit stopped me.

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He said, well, if it's not me, then I'm not Alpha and Omega.

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So you're going to have to come to terms with it being me or not.

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So he began to speak to me about that.

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We came through COVID.

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As we were nearing this year, God began to tell me, get my people ready because what

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we sow is what we grow.

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The scripture is very clear that if we sow to the flesh, we will of the flesh reap corruption.

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He began to talk to me about all of these declarations that we're in the apocalypse

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and that the apocalypse is upon us.

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God let me know that is not true.

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We're not in the apocalypse, not by their standards.

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We have been pushed by headlines and headlines have caused us to say we're in the apocalypse.

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We're in the last days, John.

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We're not in the final days.

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We're not even in good end times.

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We're more somewhere around Matthew 24 where God said the beginning of birth pains.

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So yes, but it is going to be very difficult for us as Christians.

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Now our job as ministers and as frontliners such as yourself is going to be to help the

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body of Christ shift from its happy time gospel to its realities.

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The reality is that God cannot allow the planet to slide.

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So there are things he's going to postpone.

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He's postponing a lot of our prayers.

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He's postponing or he's negating a lot of our prophecies because he has to save the

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planet so that he can continue to rescue his church and his body.

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I'm talking about the Ecclesia corporate, not so much congregation by congregation because

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as we've seen, he shut down congregations.

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So people ask me and I was just in a meeting where they asked me again, are we in the apocalypse?

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Well if we're talking about the book of Revelation, if that is our instrument and our guide, then

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we have to conclude that we're not in the seals yet.

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I mean, we're not in the trumpets yet.

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We're not in the vials.

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We're not in the three walls.

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We're not there yet.

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We're not in the mark of the beast.

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We're nowhere near those things.

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And the church is being panicked and I would dare say punked by premature affirmation.

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We're not there.

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We are in the seals.

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When you read the book of Revelation, we are in the seals, meaning we have not yet hit

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the sixth seal.

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Now we're heading toward it because the earth is groaning.

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Cosmic and seismic disasters are happening.

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So we know that, but we are not there yet.

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And I'm speaking to this also answering whether or not the church goes through the tribulation.

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But the sixth seal is where we are.

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Now we have to understand that because when the sixth seal is open, it says that there

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is a global earthquake and a cosmic shower.

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The stars from the heaven will fall.

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That's what it tells us.

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And that the whole earth would be, mountains moving out of the way, would be destroyed.

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Humanity will be driven underground, living in caves.

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But here's the upside of that.

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And that is that the Lord Jesus and God the Father are rolling because the heavens are

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gone.

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Remember the heavens are gone with this earthquake.

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Will rule the world from their heavens.

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Now at that point, God also taps 144,000 and he rescues in Revelation seven, he raptures

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his multinational church.

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So are we in the last days?

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No.

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Are we in end times?

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We most certainly are.

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But we have got to stop rushing the clock because the more we errantly affirm that we're

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in the last days, the more darkness manipulates a counterfeit to what God is really doing.

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So I'm ready to open questions, but I just want to say that I have several teachings

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and I have written articles on this if anyone is interested.

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But I want you to know we cannot treat the Revelation or the apocalypse like it's a single

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conglomerate event.

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It is not.

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It is not sequential.

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It is not layered.

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It literally will take eons for a global earthquake to give place to the rest of the book of Revelation.

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That's a lot to take in.

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And I love what you were saying that we are in the end times, but not the last days.

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Did I say that right?

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You did.

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Okay.

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We're in the end times, but not the last days.

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And there's a bit of a distinction there.

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But I really like your admonition about not rushing the clock, because that's something

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that I feel like we do so much of where we just look at the end and say, we know how

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the book ends, but we forget that the last chapter is still important.

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The last chapter is often where the battle is won.

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The last chapter is the most intense part of the book where the hero does win.

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And yes, we know how it ends, but we want to be a part of what God's plan to get to

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that end is.

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Well, we have to know how we're going to get there.

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When I teach prophets and I teach the prophetic, I start with the statement, everything earth

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starts at omega.

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It doesn't start at alpha.

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Everything we do in this world is God's omega.

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And then as each generation is born, then he rolls omega back through the eras and generations

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that they apply to, till he gets to alpha.

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So alpha has to kick off over and over and over again.

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Now why is it a big deal that we are able to say we're not at the end time?

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Here's the deal.

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The sixth seal is a very interesting thing.

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I would love one day for God's scientists and astronomers and cosmologists to really

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consider that, to pull away from the table of, hey, it's all over.

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We're out.

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And as you just said, we win.

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Because think about the astronomical, the biological, the cosmological effect of a whole

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planet being destroyed by an earthquake.

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Air is gone, light's gone, the sun has stopped shining, the earth has stopped spinning, the

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moon has turned to blood.

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Think about, if we look at that, just look at that.

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And we take the sensationalism out of it and take the prophet with the largest voice in

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the mic out of it.

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We have to look at a very tragic but staggering effect.

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Meaning that everybody existing before the sixth seal is either going to be raptured

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or well, and before the rapture, we're all going to deal with that earthquake, whatever

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generation that is alive at the time.

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So we're talking about radioactivity being crazy, people giving birth to radioactive children

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and offspring.

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That has to really hold the planet together until he can heal it.

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I mean, this thing is not a blink of the eye.

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And we make it sound like it's a nine month ordeal.

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First the earthquake, then the trumpets, and then the woes, and then the vows, and then

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it's over.

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That is the text.

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But reality playing out in a 24-7, well, after the earthquake, it won't even be 24-7.

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But reality playing out in real life is an entirely different event and a different result.

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The outcome is staggering.

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So the church that actually gets raptured is not the one we're talking about today.

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So the church that's getting raptured, which church is that then?

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And what is the distinction between the church from today and the church from Revelation

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there?

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Well, the church is getting raptured right now, we're dying in faith in God.

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When we die, we die in the Lord.

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Blessed are the ones who die in the Lord today.

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If we, you know, and what do you call it?

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Jesus said this so well, if we endure to the end, then we are all one by one.

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I'm using that as an example.

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But we one by one are dying and we sleep in Christ.

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Those of us who are alive, for example, if the rapture doesn't come tomorrow, then, you

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know, I would say that it's a rapture doesn't come tomorrow.

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We're pre-tripped.

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If the rapture comes after that, then guess what?

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We were the chosen.

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But if you want to focus in, John, just help me focus.

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And I want to focus in on the fact that the earthquake is a defining moment.

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It defines and it says after that earthquake that there was silence in heaven for the space

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of a half hour.

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And when you calculate a half hour on God's thousand years as a day, then you're talking

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about there's a state of time where God is orientating us to his world.

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The first rapture is going to take us to his temple.

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He said they're in the temple serving God day and night.

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These are real factors that we don't want to biologize.

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We don't want to geologize.

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We don't want to scientize.

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It's going to tell you when an earthquake hits on a small scale, what are the results?

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What are the effects of that earthquake on the community?

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We just had one in California.

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What does that look like?

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What is that like?

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How long will it take California to recover from that?

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Remember, the last big one they had took decades for them to recover.

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So what we're talking about is if we don't come back, back up this thing and go back

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to the sixth seal, the global earthquake.

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And unless you're a journalist, so maybe you can answer me.

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And unless we missed it, geologists have not told us that there is in the rocks of the

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earth a state where everything was gone.

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They haven't told us that yet.

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So unless you might know something, I don't know.

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But if that earthquake did happen, do you know what that means?

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That means we missed it.

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And I don't think we're going to miss an earthquake for sure.

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And I'm praying that that doesn't happen in 2023.

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Dr. Paula Price, we've been talking about just what is a little bit further down the

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But as we're wrapping up 2022 right now and heading into 2023, what are some things that

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people need to be looking for in 2023 just to get us ready?

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The first thing I want to say, I'm so glad you asked me.

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I woke up yesterday morning, and when I did, just before I opened my eyes, the Holy Spirit

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showed me a huge teardrop fall from heaven.

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And God says, I'm weeping for the earth.

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So he's letting us know.

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Now when heaven says he's weeping, it's pretty bad.

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We have allowed occultism, mysticism, and witchcraft, and magic to totally dominate

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our landscape.

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They're letting us know that they have all but neutralized the church.

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So we can expect more of this magic thing.

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But when you release that, when you unleash something like that, you're going to have

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hostility.

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Persecution will ramp up, and persecution legislation is going to drive it.

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So unless we do a major move and we appeal to God's mercy, that's going to happen.

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We are going to have to deal with the same devil that Jesus destroyed on the cross, that

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we have given power to, because we have.

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We're going to have persecution.

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Obviously, the earth is groaning.

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So we're going to have a lot more of those natural disasters, some of which are about

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to be very peculiar, because the ones that God is showing me, these are those that happen

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when the pillars of the earth and the shields of the earth are removed.

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We're going to see, we're going to have to fight for the life of the next generation,

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because these children and this pornographic academics program that they're on are going

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to be the future.

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Many of us don't realize that what we're living today are the children that hated church as

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kids.

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See, these are the same people.

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These are now the adults calling the shots, making the laws, and electing officials.

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So we're going to have to deal with darkness.

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We also are going to have to see that there's going to be a great push toward apostles and

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prophets because God always goes to war with them.

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So he's going to do a great deal with that because they predate the Ecclesiastes' appearance

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on the earth, where obviously the economy will be affected.

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We know the economy will be affected.

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We know that what we see now is virtually nothing as they push to bankrupt our nation,

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but also to bankrupt the nations to force the artificial currency on us.

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Now, one of the things I like to talk about when we talk about the money is that we keep

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saying Mark of the Beast, but they're using our finger.

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Mark of the Beast is looking for our foreheads.

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That's the difference altogether.

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And we're not the generation for that.

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We're talking about, even now, I was having a conversation about Israel and their false

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Messiah that they are now trying to coronate.

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He's 34 years old.

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He's got three kids.

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I was asking a woman to send me the article.

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I haven't gotten it yet, but we are going to have the season of false Christ.

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We've been having them, and now we're going to have them because they've got the power

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of darkness behind them.

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Think about the fact that the pope, according to an article sent to me, is going to redo

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the Ten Commandments.

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So Daniel 7 is pushing in on us.

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The multi-head beasts, and they're changing times and seasons.

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They're changing ordinances and traditions, and they're bringing everything under darkness.

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Because it's the agenda of the BC world.

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And see, everything that you see happening, it's in the Bible.

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We've been told it's outdated.

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It is what God has faced for them.

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We don't know when.

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So we're going to have that.

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Politics will be struggling, and it will be struggling because it's even them within their

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own ranks are fighting to see who's going to be the power that rules the world.

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Meanwhile, if Christians, you know why I push for Christians to get an office, and many

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of us, it's too late.

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If they've taken all seven mountains, and I mean, John, you have to admit, they've taken

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all seven mountains through tech, through big tech, through legislation, and through

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culture.

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They've taken all of these mountains.

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We are going to have to scrap.

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And I see for a season, the church is going to be underground, having to reinvent itself

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to come back wiser and stronger than ever.

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I'll end on this fact if I can.

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God has given me the biotic gospel because part of how God's going to repair this is

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through His children, but these have to be the people who are truly born again, truly

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filled with the Spirit of God, and who are activated by God's Spirit to outwit and overpower

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the children of darkness, the children of this age.

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You know, you mentioned about the seven mountains, and I'm just reminded of Caleb in the Bible

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where they took the promised land, and they were divvying out the promised land, and there

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was one mountain, I believe it was Hebron, that he said, I want that one because there's

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still battle there.

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And so I just want to encourage the body of Christ right now, based off of what you said

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there, that even though we've given up the mountains, it's our job to take it back because

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that is rightfully ours.

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That's what God has given it.

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Be like Caleb to go take that mountain, even at an old age.

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You're not done yet.

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Can I speak to that for a moment?

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The mountains are not the Holy Ghost.

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The mountains are not sovereign, but God is.

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The mountains are not supreme.

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Human culture has flipped, flipped, flipped, and flipped.

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You know, Ecclesiastes tell us that which is has already been and that which will be

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will be again.

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So we're living in a recycling of God's removing or removing the darkness from us.

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What we need, if you ask me today what we need, we need to come into a cohesive consensus

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on what we have to do to restore power to God's people.

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The church, it has to be classes.

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They have to be training on the things that we've been talked out of.

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We've been literally untaught God's way and God's power.

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There has to be that.

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And that's what I think will be the call of his apostles and prophets because it all began

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with them.

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It's everything with the prophet.

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So our task is to find out the prophets that are really running with him and who he's running

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with.

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And then he finishes and he captures spirituality with his apostles.

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And again, we need to find that.

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So if I had to encourage you today, I encourage you to have your prayer groups.

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I encourage you to get back into your word.

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I encourage you to make sure that you have your new heart and your new spirit because

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God's going to call on it.

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And then I want to encourage you to believe in the Lord your God that you may be established

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belief is prophets that you may prosper.

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But lastly, to be the strong ones who do great expert.

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Don't give up on the Christ in you.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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That is great.

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Don't give up on the Christ in you because he that is in us is greater than he that is

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in the world.

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Dr. Paula Price, thank you so much for being here with the Charisma News podcast to share

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what God has put on your heart, what God has spoken to you for 2023 and beyond.

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And so I just want to encourage everybody to get prepared, get equipped, get trained

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and get ready for what God has to come in the future.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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This has been John Matarazzo for the Charisma News podcast.

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God bless you.