1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,520 This is because Biblical illiteracy was created by these guru type celebrity pastors that 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:13,720 are running around now and they love to sound like Anthony Robbins and wear the the muskull 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,680 shirts and stand there and enthrall the crowd. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,960 But they're not teaching truth verse by verse biblical doctrine on truth. 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,620 Believe it or not, youth are fascinated by truth. 6 00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:27,620 They want it. 7 00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:32,360 Mario Murillo, it's great to have you back here on Charisma News. 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,240 It seems like every time that we talk, you're in another part of the world or you're going 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,480 to another part of the country to do another tent crusade. 10 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:44,760 And judging by the background that you have behind you now, you're not in San Francisco 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,800 anymore. 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,560 You're somewhere in Denver, right? 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Or Colorado. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,560 Colorado Springs. 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Colorado Springs. 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,480 That's where the tents going up. 17 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:55,960 And it's a new tent, by the way, John. 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,640 It's a new tent. 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,280 We've outgrown our tent every 18 months. 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,760 We've had to double the size of our tent. 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Mathematically, that means by the end of five years from now, we should be able to seat 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,600 a million people. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,280 We'll be able to see that tent from the moon pretty soon, right? 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Yeah. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,880 And in any event, we just took delivery on a 40,000 square foot tent. 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,120 It would cover a football field. 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,120 And we're going to need it because of all the people that are getting saved. 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:33,520 It'll be able to seat 5,211 people inside of it with a massive stage. 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,380 It's going to be 40 feet high. 30 00:01:35,380 --> 00:01:39,680 You're going to see it from all over then Colorado Springs. 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,760 And we're excited. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,000 We've got already 500 people two months in advance. 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:51,960 500 people have volunteered to come to Colorado Springs to help us bring healing and salvation 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,640 to thousands and thousands of people. 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Amen. 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Amen. 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,920 And so I want to hear what has been happening recently. 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:05,920 I mean, you always have some sort of a report or a testimony of a miracle healing or a miracle 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,920 of salvation. 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,120 I remember when you were in Bakersfield, you were talking about these gang members that 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,280 were coming to Christ and just seeing amazing things happening there. 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Tell me about something that's been happening recently. 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,960 And I know later, a little bit later in this interview, we're going to talk about some 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:29,320 prophetic things that are stirring in your heart and regarding our culture and the culture 45 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,640 war that we're in right now with free speech and everything. 46 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:37,920 So before we get into that, let's talk about these amazing testimonies that God is bringing 47 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:39,120 right in front of you. 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Let's encourage the body of Christ. 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Yes. 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:47,280 And especially, I love to do this on Charisma News because this is the platform that I enjoy 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,280 the most. 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,280 And I want to tell you, whenever I'm with you or with Brother Steve Strang, I love it. 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,200 I enjoy it because I know it's going to go out to thousands of people. 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Will everybody listen up? 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,440 Listen up very carefully. 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,120 We are flooded with testimonies. 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,000 We're flooded with reports. 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,360 And unfortunately, it starts to become background noise. 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:15,280 We tend to lose our sense of the credibility of what people say because, you know, we hear 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,820 all of these fantastic, continual reports of things that are going on. 61 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:24,600 So I'm going to keep this as direct and definable as possible. 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,400 His name was Steve. 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:33,680 He lived in his house with darkness alone for seven years. 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,640 He wouldn't venture out hardly anywhere from his house because he lived on a level of pain 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,400 that few human beings can understand. 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,320 He was on every medication. 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:51,920 You took the capsules that he took every day, 15 separate kinds of things that he was prescribed, 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,320 which I don't understand, in order to deal with the pain in five ruptured discs that 69 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,600 were in his spine. 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,600 And so there he was, not a Christian, lost, no hope, in darkness. 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:11,920 And some friends brought him to the Tent Crusade in Colorado Springs last July, sat in the 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,920 back. 73 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:19,680 He was annoyed, not only because it was painful to sit, but because he thought it was a concert. 74 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,720 He didn't realize it was a Christian event. 75 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,920 So he's a little bit perturbed, a lot of anxiety about it. 76 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Well, and we give God the glory for everything because I'm unworthy to be associated with 77 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,760 this in any way, but I'm in the pulpit. 78 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:41,680 I point to the back and I sit right there is a man whose spine is being healed. 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,680 And at that moment, Steve felt his finger, like these fingers, these vertebrae go back 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:54,600 into place and seven years of indescribable pain was gone in an instant. 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:01,980 And it scared him and he stood up and he ran to the front to be saved. 82 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:03,840 And he was dramatically converted. 83 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:12,120 He went from being a housebound pain victim to every single time the doors of the church 84 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,360 at Radiant Church in Colorado Springs are open, he's there. 85 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,360 He's always there. 86 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,000 He's the first one to arrive, the last one to leave. 87 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,920 Second miracle, I'll make this one quicker because I get too excited for my own good. 88 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,920 This is great. 89 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,920 I love it. 90 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Her name is Bree, B-R-I, how you spell her name. 91 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:40,560 She had parasites in her stomach and the medication they gave her to deal with these parasites 92 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:48,240 started a autoimmune war in her body where it began to cannibalize itself. 93 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,340 And it affected her motor skills. 94 00:05:51,340 --> 00:06:01,480 It wiped out her energy and she became helplessly degenerating and shrinking to 94 pounds. 95 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,920 She's five foot nine. 96 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,600 And she went down to 94 pounds. 97 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,160 And when they brought her to the meeting, they brought her to the front, they carried 98 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 her and she's on her knees. 99 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:22,280 But again, her motor skills, inability to really coordinate and she looks like a skeleton. 100 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:27,560 And she's in front of the Tower of Speakers on my left when all of a sudden, man, the 101 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,080 power of God came on me and said, go over there and I'll be glorified. 102 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,440 And I prayed for her. 103 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,840 And she knew the moment that God had touched her, she understood it. 104 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:46,920 Well, she within the next few weeks could eat whatever she wanted, had no pain, no weakness. 105 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,280 Her motor skills are restored. 106 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:56,520 She gained 30 pounds and she's absolutely a walking, talking miracle a year later. 107 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,320 We just had her testify a few weeks ago. 108 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,320 And those are two of many that happened in Colorado Springs and why we're going back. 109 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Yeah. 110 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,320 When are you going back? 111 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,520 When is this crusade? 112 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Okay, the crusade is at Church for All Nations in their Northeast campus. 113 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,520 It's a Church for All Nations, July 16th through the 19th. 114 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,320 We're going four nights. 115 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Catherine Mullins is going to lead worship at that event. 116 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,120 And it's going to be a remark. 117 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:36,080 We are already flooding the city with workers and we're going to see miracles. 118 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,340 Wow. 119 00:07:37,340 --> 00:07:43,960 And so I find it very interesting that you heard the voice of the Lord say, go over to 120 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,200 there, go over to that girl and I'm going to be glorified. 121 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,360 And you needed to be able to speak. 122 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,440 You needed to be able to get the words out. 123 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,440 Yes. 124 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,680 And to be able to be obedient to do that. 125 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,880 And in our world today, we're dealing a lot with cancel culture and there's a fight against 126 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,840 free speech. 127 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:08,360 We just saw from the time that we're recording this a couple of weeks ago that Tucker Carlson 128 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:18,560 was fired from Fox News and there seems to be this fight or this battle for our words, 129 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,440 this battle to keep people quiet. 130 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,860 If we can keep people quiet in the natural, then we can keep people quiet from declaring 131 00:08:26,860 --> 00:08:29,000 the word of God. 132 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,200 You have a powerful message that God has put on your heart about this and I just kind of 133 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,160 want to turn you loose and I'll ask questions along the way like I normally do, but I'm 134 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,000 just going to let you go brother. 135 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Because before we hit record here, you were on a roll and yeah, so just go ahead and share 136 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,760 what the Lord has been sharing with you. 137 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Well John, I want everyone who's watching to take a moment and listen to me on one point. 138 00:08:54,240 --> 00:09:00,560 There are only two passions in my life that I'm in the ministry that I'm fighting for. 139 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:05,840 One is to preach the gospel with signs, wonders, and miracles. 140 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:12,080 And when all the drug addicts I can, every lost soul I can find, I'm trying to win them. 141 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:19,560 But my secondary passion in the ministry is to fight to preserve that right to do the 142 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:20,560 first thing. 143 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:25,200 The second thing is to fight to preserve that. 144 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,120 And I have some good news and some horrible news actually, but I think it's important 145 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:38,860 to understand what the meaning of Tucker Carlson's firing, what it means to us. 146 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:42,620 You know, it's a charade in Washington. 147 00:09:42,620 --> 00:09:49,240 There's a ruling elite party and some of them are in the Republican Party and a lot of them 148 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,560 are in the Democratic Party. 149 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:58,280 And the idea that a minister shouldn't be referencing politics, that might have held 150 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:05,080 some kind of validity a few years ago, but now it is an inexcusable betrayal of your 151 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,760 calling in God to remain silent right now. 152 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,320 You have to speak out. 153 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,200 And what we found out with Tucker is this. 154 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:21,960 He said some things that went against that elite group of corporate heads that want to 155 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,320 control our world. 156 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,920 They are neither Republican nor Democrat. 157 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:33,920 They live in a loftier perch than that in the global scheme. 158 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,720 And so they silenced him, but they thought they did, only it backfired. 159 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,720 You know, Elon Musk was not something that any of them expected to happen. 160 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,960 And if you'd have told me five years ago that Twitter would actually be a platform for free 161 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,560 speech, I wouldn't have believed you. 162 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:58,280 But there's been such a shift and a moment that I believe is from God that the church 163 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 needs to seize. 164 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,560 And amen. 165 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:04,320 I agree with that completely. 166 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,240 The church needs to seize every opportunity to preach the gospel. 167 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:17,840 And St. Francis of Assisi is quoted by saying this, that we preach the gospel at all times 168 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,320 and when necessary, use words. 169 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Well, to be honest, it's necessary to use words at all times. 170 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,780 And so if we're not doing our best to share the gospel through our actions as well as 171 00:11:30,780 --> 00:11:35,960 our words, then we're missing a key component of that. 172 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,640 And so I know that I believe that he was actually misquoted quite a bit about that and it was 173 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,880 taken to just be a nice person and people will come to Christ. 174 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,520 He did a lot of preaching the gospel with words too. 175 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:55,840 But no, what I'm going to say is that you said when necessary, use words. 176 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,640 And the words we need to use are the necessary words. 177 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Not our opinion, but what words are necessary. 178 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,400 And here's what I'm going to tell you. 179 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:13,840 I'm in a strange place in my life where I know that God wants me to address abortion, 180 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:21,240 the transgender agenda, and God wants me to speak out against evil as I see it. 181 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:27,820 But it becomes difficult for me to say, oh, the Republicans are right and the Democrats 182 00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:28,820 are wrong. 183 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:31,120 And I'm going to tell you what I'm going to say. 184 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Democratic Party has an evil agenda. 185 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:40,120 The Republican Party has a compromised agenda and we can't trust either one fully. 186 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Now obviously, I know God can work a lot easier right now in the conservative movement because 187 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:53,680 they still at least outwardly claim to value family and truth and freedom of speech. 188 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:00,680 But the real battle, the real war that's going on right now is the silence in the American 189 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,000 pulpit. 190 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,260 That's the real, that's where you know, the devil is in the details. 191 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:09,160 That's where the problem is. 192 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,520 And there's a verse in the Bible that I wanted to reference. 193 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,440 And I will after you ask your question, you were going to ask me. 194 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,300 But I wanted to say that about necessary words. 195 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:22,040 That is really important with these whole necessary words. 196 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,720 I mean, that is those necessary words are the ones that are being, they're triggered. 197 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:34,340 You know, on Facebook, I know people that have because they posted about Jesus dying 198 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:36,340 for your sins to save you. 199 00:13:36,340 --> 00:13:38,680 They have been, they've gotten a strike. 200 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:41,520 They've gotten put in Facebook jail. 201 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,440 You know, people are getting removed from different platforms because they're speaking 202 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,440 the truth. 203 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,560 They're not even speaking against certain groups or things like that. 204 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,760 They're just speaking the truth. 205 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,920 And then people come after them. 206 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:01,480 And so, I mean, we've had some interesting, interesting altercations with that as well. 207 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,600 Because, yeah, I mean, it's, we're just trying to report what's going on. 208 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,160 And we have to be careful. 209 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,160 I mean, we're going to speak the truth no matter what. 210 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:19,640 But sometimes we have to beat around the bush a little bit to so, so that things are, you 211 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,440 know, we're not going to get shut down on these different platforms. 212 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,680 We're going to continue to be on available at charisma news.com forever. 213 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,040 And all these other platforms, our podcast network, and those things. 214 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,760 So we're not going to shy away from that. 215 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,720 But we're going to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves to be able to be to be able 216 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:45,200 to get the word out there and be careful with those necessary words, I guess. 217 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,800 You know, Twitter was recently purchased by Elon Musk a few months ago. 218 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,480 And honestly, a few years ago, I thought Elon Musk was probably one of the best Bond villain 219 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,520 names that I could have ever come up with. 220 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:04,360 And now he seems more like a Tony Stark, you know, helping the people of Ukraine get the 221 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:10,300 internet through satellites and, you know, the shooting off rockets and, and all this 222 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:14,840 interesting stuff and buying the biggest buying the biggest social media platform and turning 223 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 it into something that's just totally free speech. 224 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,720 It seemed like we were heading towards a place before where free speech is totally cut off 225 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,800 and there's nothing that we can say and we just have to bite our tongues and hope something 226 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,040 changes. 227 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,880 With this change that's happening, what are you seeing spiritually? 228 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,800 All right, I want to I want to address it this way. 229 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Number one, how many times have you and I heard ministers who were mediocre say, well, 230 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,200 we shouldn't get involved in that, because they're really not criticizing the church. 231 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:57,560 In 2008, I told leaders and my blog, I said, they're going after Christianity. 232 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,820 That's all they really want. 233 00:15:58,820 --> 00:16:05,780 They don't want to just silence the right wing QAnon, whatever they're after Christianity, 234 00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:07,600 you just don't want to face it. 235 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,200 They don't say it today because they don't have enough momentum. 236 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,800 They don't have enough support to do it. 237 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,360 They won't get away with it. 238 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Well, so the pendulum swung. 239 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,120 And like I said, you can't even say that Christ can save you or wash away your sins by his 240 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,120 blood. 241 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,540 That is now a hate crime that is unsafe. 242 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:31,520 People feel threatened by it. 243 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,360 And therefore, you're going to see social media block that out. 244 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,360 Well, we disobeyed God when this problem began. 245 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,160 God had sent voices like David Wilkerson and others and said to the body of Christ in the 246 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:51,200 United States, we need to stand up against the flood of evil and against the flood of 247 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,360 immorality. 248 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,720 They didn't do it. 249 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,480 And they kept telling themselves what it doesn't affect me. 250 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Well, here we are. 251 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:03,840 And we're at another moment where now we better speak up or it's going to be impossible to 252 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,440 speak up. 253 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,640 And so that's where we're at. 254 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:15,400 Secondly, Elon Musk was a phenomenon like something you would see in the Old Testament. 255 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,400 The Bible says he sets up one king and takes down another. 256 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:26,560 You see, I have a theological theory that I call the Dagon factor. 257 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:32,880 And it is this, the God Dagon was half man, half fish worshiped by the Philistines. 258 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,200 And one day they went to war against Israel and stole the Ark. 259 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:44,840 But they made the mistake of putting the Ark in the same room as their God, Dagon. 260 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:52,320 And his hands fell off and his head and he fell forward in a pile in front of the Ark. 261 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Now imagine trying to believe that your God is still a God when you're repairing him, 262 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,080 you're putting his limbs back together and you still believe he's deity. 263 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Obviously, what you're watching here that the anointed of God in every situation will 264 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:17,480 rise to the top and God will change world events to facilitate their destiny. 265 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,640 All right. 266 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:25,360 He sent a storm to keep Jonah from getting to Tarshish because he belonged in Nineveh. 267 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:32,000 You know, you look at Caesar Augustus, he's a mighty, powerful potentate, the head of 268 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,240 the world's biggest empire. 269 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:44,560 And so he issues a decree that every person had to go to their original hometown and register 270 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,160 for the registry and taxation. 271 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:57,400 That brought Joseph and Mary all the way from Nazareth down to Bethlehem so that Micah prophecy 272 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,480 would be fulfilled. 273 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:06,360 That though you are the least of all the tribes, out of you will come a ruler whose origins 274 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:11,120 are from before time and Jesus was born in Bethlehem. 275 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:18,240 So God facilitates, he moved the heart of Cyrus the king to fulfill the 70 year prophetic 276 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,100 word of Jeremiah. 277 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:29,440 So every single moment in time, every epoch in time carries two initiatives, the prophetic 278 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,580 and policy. 279 00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:34,320 So there's prophecy and there's policy. 280 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,520 And whatever the prophecies are that apply to that time, they're going to overrule man's 281 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,520 policy. 282 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,680 So here's what Elon Musk represents. 283 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,880 It's a kink in the armor. 284 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:53,400 It's a moment in time that God is allowed for the church once again to be protected 285 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,940 from having his voice completely silenced. 286 00:19:56,940 --> 00:20:03,840 But we also ought to bear in mind that there have been nations that have been totally silenced. 287 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:10,760 And it was this, when Jesus approached Jerusalem, he wept and he said, you did not know the 288 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:16,120 hour of your visitation and now your peace is hidden from you. 289 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,900 That's the alarm that I'm pulling. 290 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:22,760 That's the alarm button that I'm referencing that we're in an hour where we need to hear 291 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,760 God. 292 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:31,080 You know, we have just under half a million Protestant ministers in the United States. 293 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Now you tell me, John, if Kid Rock shooting up a pack of Bud Light ended up affecting 294 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:47,160 their sales, what would a hundred thousand pastors, men and women, standing in their 295 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:55,840 pulpit as one voice saying, we do not want children to get replacement surgery for their 296 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,840 gender. 297 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:02,000 We don't want old men in sundresses reading stories to our children. 298 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,320 We don't want this immorality. 299 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,180 It would make the Bud Light boycott look like nothing. 300 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:15,480 And it is essential for us to understand that this silence is being fomented by what I'd 301 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:22,000 consider a faulty theology, which I will explain from Isaiah 59. 302 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000 All right. 303 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Is it okay? 304 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,200 So I'm going to read it if you don't mind. 305 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,200 All right. 306 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:38,520 It says Isaiah 59 in the AMPC, an amplified classic version, starting in verse 14, justice 307 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:44,920 is turned away backwards and righteousness and uprightness are standing afar off for 308 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:52,200 truth has fallen in the streets and uprightness cannot enter the courts of law. 309 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:58,000 So it's saying the truth has failed, saying that the courts don't bring justice anymore. 310 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,360 It's saying the time we're living in. 311 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,400 And then in verse 15, it goes on. 312 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,880 Yes, truth is lacking. 313 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Boy, I'll tell you that. 314 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,160 And he who departs from evil makes himself a prey. 315 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,280 By being righteous, you're suddenly being canceled. 316 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,720 And the Lord saw it and it displeased him that there was no justice. 317 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,920 And he saw this is what he found remarkable. 318 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,800 There was no man and wondered that there was no intercessor. 319 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Here's where it gets. 320 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,200 It gets real touchy. 321 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,360 John is the assumption here is prayer. 322 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,200 And this is out of context. 323 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,880 It's not about prayer. 324 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,160 Is prayer important? 325 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,160 Yes. 326 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,040 The Bible says that we got to pray. 327 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,160 Second Chronicles 714 interceding for revival. 328 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,160 It's just that in this moment, it is speaking of something else. 329 00:22:54,160 --> 00:23:00,080 What God was shocked at was not that people weren't praying, but that they were silent 330 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,040 in the face of the evil. 331 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,380 That's a big deal, John. 332 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:06,240 That's what it's talking about. 333 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,840 There was no intercessor. 334 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:15,120 And in brackets, it says no one to intervene on behalf of truth and right. 335 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,280 Therefore, and this is where the news gets good. 336 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Therefore, his own arm brought him victory and his own righteousness, having the spirit 337 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,600 without measure sustained him. 338 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,920 And that's where we are. 339 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,960 That's our moment right now in American history. 340 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,300 God is going to send revival even though we don't deserve it. 341 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:39,760 God is going to send revival even though men and women have been silent. 342 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:46,800 Even though there's been this massive dereliction of duty where the priority is membership in 343 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,480 church, money, offerings, everything else. 344 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,440 God is still going to intervene in America. 345 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320 How do I know it? 346 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Because I saw it in the Jesus movement. 347 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:03,080 I saw the church in this same exact condition when all of a sudden, Southern California 348 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,080 became ground zero for a youth movement that would go around the world. 349 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,080 Amen. 350 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Amen. 351 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:16,400 You know, what you saw during the Jesus movement, and I love the whole Jesus Revolution movie. 352 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,440 I mean, I cried at the end of that. 353 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,320 And I just basically, I cried and spontaneously prayed, God use me that way. 354 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,920 And I just was overwhelmed. 355 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960 I mean, you lived through that. 356 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,680 You were a part of that. 357 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,480 You were preaching that and seeing people come to Christ. 358 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,040 We look at California now where this really started from. 359 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,600 And San Francisco, people are leaving San Francisco. 360 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,440 People are leaving a lot of these areas because it's gotten so bad. 361 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,160 There's the homelessness is rampant. 362 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,480 The drugs are everywhere. 363 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,920 Violence is happening in so many different places. 364 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,000 I know that Whole Foods had to close their store in San Francisco because of so much 365 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,480 theft. 366 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:11,360 And so you're telling me that stuff was like this back in the 70s when the Jesus revival 367 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,120 was happening. 368 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:18,280 Tell me about this more right now because we need some more hope. 369 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,400 And what you're saying is you're comparing it to that. 370 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,480 So I'm just kind of painting the picture. 371 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Like, if God can do it, then he can do it again. 372 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,400 Well, and here's what he did. 373 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,640 The cover of Time magazine said that God was dead. 374 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,200 It just said in three words, God is dead. 375 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,120 We had the assassination of Kennedy. 376 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,280 We had the Vietnam War. 377 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:49,000 We had the Beatles came in 1964 in their first tour of the United States and overnight changed 378 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000 the culture. 379 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,240 All right. 380 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:57,360 In 1963, 10,000 kids ran away from home. 381 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:05,680 In 1965, just barely two years later, 1 million kids ran away from home. 382 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,160 And the movement, I would get on a bus after high school. 383 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:16,820 I got radically saved in high school and would jump on a bus to go down to the Haight Ashbury 384 00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:22,440 where there were 50,000 young people and I'd witness on the streets. 385 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:29,720 In fact, I got a little amp and I would street preach, as I recall, with Janis Joplin and 386 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,480 all of them in a concert about a quarter of a mile away from me. 387 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,760 And I was just standing there against the tide. 388 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:47,480 And if there had been an AIDS virus in 1966 in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, the 389 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,800 death rate would have shocked the world. 390 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,800 But the fact is they were on drugs, they were dying. 391 00:26:53,800 --> 00:27:02,520 The whole 10 years I was at Berkeley, we had overdoses all the time, deaths all the time. 392 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:09,400 And the worldwide student revolution against the...and we had Watergate. 393 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,280 There was the fear of nuclear war. 394 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,440 We had the Cuban Missile Crisis. 395 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:22,140 It was a time where New York City had discovered psychotherapy. 396 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:23,720 Everybody had a shrink. 397 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,440 They were depending more on Freud than the Bible. 398 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:37,480 It was a time of tremendous...and feature this, Timothy Leary would do events with 10,000 399 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,380 young people that were the purpose of it was to get them to triacid. 400 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:49,000 It was literally a drug recruitment rally and they were happening all over the country. 401 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,920 So it was evil and churches were abandoned. 402 00:27:52,920 --> 00:28:00,080 They figure that about 5% of American teenagers were in church in the mid-60s. 403 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,400 And all of a sudden, the power of God fell. 404 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:09,840 And you know, the Jesus Revolution movement, it couldn't...it'd be impossible for any one 405 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:17,280 film to do justice to that moment in the late 60s to the mid-70s of what hit the United 406 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,700 States because it happened simultaneously. 407 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:27,880 There was a Chuck Smith and Costa Mesa, but there was something going on in Seattle, in 408 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,880 Portland, in San Francisco, in Berkeley, and San Diego. 409 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:40,080 And the drop-in centers and the number of outreach places that were going on had us 410 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:47,240 so busy that I was in my car driving across California from one end of it to the other. 411 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,240 There wasn't a city where we couldn't stop and preach. 412 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,640 There was a Christian pizza parlor in Santa Cruz. 413 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,320 There was a drop-in center in San Francisco. 414 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,080 In Portland, when we went up there, there were people ministering on the streets. 415 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:07,240 You know, the West Coast was hit so hard by the Jesus movement that literally there was 416 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:14,360 not a man, woman, boy or girl who was not personally witnessed to receive Christ. 417 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,440 That's how pervasive it was. 418 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:27,120 So why do you think that we went from a culture or a time where, as you just said, literally 419 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:37,240 everybody had an opportunity to hear the gospel, everybody was preached to, to now it's people 420 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,360 are afraid to share the gospel and it's shut out. 421 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Like, obviously that's a slippery slope, but where did that slippery slope start? 422 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:53,800 Well, you know, the John Kennedy said in one of his speeches, he said, a rising tide raises 423 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,840 all boats. 424 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,320 And at that time, the Jesus movement affected Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Catherine Kuhlman 425 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,400 and church growth. 426 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:10,560 And we had two Christian schools a day opening at one point in the United States, Christian 427 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,400 private schools. 428 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Now where did it go? 429 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:21,840 Well, I believe one of the things that cost us our steam was an overemphasis on the rapture. 430 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640 Well, do I believe in the rapture? 431 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,400 Well here's what I believe. 432 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,180 I believe that we are to function as if we're here another thousand years. 433 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:34,340 We have to function as if we are here for the long run. 434 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:40,780 So in the Jesus movement, the books, the movies, everything was so apocalyptic that no one 435 00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:45,520 bothered to finish college, no one bothered to have a long range plan. 436 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Nobody had any serious body of work that was being done in order to speak to the culture 437 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040 on a long range basis. 438 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Because of that, it tended to take a lot of the momentum out of it. 439 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:07,400 I believe that in this second one, you know, this is really important to say, Jesus is 440 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,900 a lion, he's a lamb. 441 00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:15,840 And the Jesus movement was acoustic, it was flowers, it was, you know, that little chubby 442 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,840 dove design. 443 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,620 And it was tender and it was that way. 444 00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:24,920 That was a lamb temperament. 445 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,560 The matrix of that movement was a lamb temperament. 446 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,240 And it was like Jesus loves you. 447 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,160 And you know, the songs of the day, the Christian music was amazing. 448 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440 But here's what we're in now. 449 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Joel says, I'll pour out my spirit on your sons and daughters and they will prophesy. 450 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,240 I personally don't believe we've seen that yet. 451 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,120 I believe that Peter was right saying this is that. 452 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,280 But in America, we've had the lamb revival, I think we're on the verge of a youthful revival 453 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,320 that's going to be very frightening. 454 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:05,920 I believe the devil has counterfeited the prophetic gift, counterfeited it so that when 455 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:12,040 the real arrives, he's trying to make us immune to it, inoculated against it. 456 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,600 But youth are going to be the prophets. 457 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,880 And the prophets that come out from the youth movement in America aren't going to say, you 458 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,680 know, everything you've been through is preparation and your end is going to be greater than your 459 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,680 beginning. 460 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,000 All of this flattery. 461 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,720 No, prophets speak to cultural evil. 462 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,920 Prophets go to the seat of power and challenge it. 463 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,880 They speak truth to power. 464 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,600 That hasn't happened yet. 465 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680 But when young people do it, it's irresistible. 466 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,520 But I'll give you a clue. 467 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:50,440 What was happened in Asbury right before the Jesus Revolution movie came out, that momentary 468 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:58,280 flash was an omen and a precursor to something on campus that's going to be widespread. 469 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:04,760 That's why we are rebranding, recalibrating our ministry, because we are going to be on 470 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,560 campus where the student awakening of America is going to strike. 471 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,200 And it's going to have an intensity because of the passion, the natural passion of youth 472 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,680 is going to be amazing. 473 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:24,480 And John, you always ask me these questions and I, you know, you get me going. 474 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,800 So there it is. 475 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,800 That's great. 476 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720 You know, I've got another question for you. 477 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:37,880 Because you were talking about the youth and how they're, we had the lamb revolution. 478 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,800 So we're kind of expecting the lion revolution. 479 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,720 But when you were talking about this, the counterfeit prophetic, their counterfeit things, 480 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:53,960 you know, several years ago, maybe the previous generation, the big thing was to question 481 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,520 authority. 482 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:01,360 And now people are questioning truth and they don't know what truth is. 483 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:08,600 And so let's just talk about the whole thing of questioning authority and where that has 484 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,360 led to. 485 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,440 Because I think there is a good questioning of authority and there's an inappropriate, 486 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200 there's a rebellious questioning of authority. 487 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,340 And the same way connecting to truth, there is a good questioning of truth. 488 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:26,200 And then there's a rebellious questioning of truth as well. 489 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,680 Can we discuss some of those correlations there? 490 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,320 Well, to get to right to the heart of what you just asked me, what makes it right or 491 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,400 wrong to question authority is basically has to do with the question. 492 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,480 What is the question? 493 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,680 Because questions that are hit pieces or rhetorical questions or questions that are meant to just 494 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,320 kind of get you aren't purveyors of truth. 495 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,780 Where we are frustrated is on two levels. 496 00:34:57,780 --> 00:35:03,640 One is we took scripture out so that we don't teach the Bible. 497 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,800 The average young believer today doesn't understand doctrine, the essential truths of the gospel, 498 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,560 the Trinity, the second coming of Christ, the blood, the process of sanctification and 499 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360 redemption, inerrancy of scripture. 500 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,960 They haven't got it, even though the Bible says be ready to give an answer for the hope 501 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040 that lies within you. 502 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:31,680 This is because biblical illiteracy was created by these guru type celebrity pastors that 503 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,880 are running around now and they love to sound like Anthony Robbins and wear the muscled 504 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,800 shirts and stand there and enthrall the crowd. 505 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:48,000 If they're not teaching truth verse by verse, biblical doctrinal truth, believe it or not, 506 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,740 youth are fascinated by truth. 507 00:35:50,740 --> 00:35:52,080 They want it. 508 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,840 So this is a canard. 509 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,040 It's not something we need to be doing at all, is to seduce or leave the Bible verses 510 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,440 out. 511 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:08,100 Secondly, we haven't pursued with integrity the supernatural. 512 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:13,340 So we have a bumper sticker that was famous all over the South and conservative areas 513 00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:17,920 has said when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. 514 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,800 Well, for every false prophet that we see running around seeing cows driving tractors 515 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:31,180 in heaven, there is another preacher who said prophecy isn't for today. 516 00:36:31,180 --> 00:36:40,120 The most powerful and devastating movement that I ever had to be a part of was a luncheon 517 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:46,880 I did in San Francisco to several hundred pastors who wanted to understand how did so 518 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,820 many young people were fooled by Jim Jones. 519 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:52,900 These were mainstream churches. 520 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:58,500 They were liberal churches and they wanted me as a youth leader because they heard what 521 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,440 God was doing in Berkeley. 522 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,840 They said, why did they end up with Jim Jones? 523 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,140 And I couldn't believe John what God had me to say. 524 00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:12,400 I looked at him and I said, you know, before they tried Jim Jones, his church, they tried 525 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,400 yours. 526 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,400 Ouch. 527 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,920 And I said, here's what's wrong. 528 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:25,000 We needed to discover the true gift of prophecy, discerning, casting out of devils. 529 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,320 How does healing and the word of faith that is true, the true legitimate word of 530 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:36,760 knowledge, prophetic word of wisdom, healing faith, all of how does that work? 531 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,760 Here's what Paul said. 532 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,040 He said, concerning spiritual gifts, I don't want you to be ignorant. 533 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,440 We didn't have that passion. 534 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,760 There are certain spirit filled denominations that a huge number of their pastors don't 535 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,220 even pray in tongues, have never been baptized in the Holy Spirit. 536 00:37:54,220 --> 00:37:55,820 So here's the problem. 537 00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:57,260 We ignored tongues. 538 00:37:57,260 --> 00:38:00,240 We ignored the gifts of the spirit. 539 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:06,440 We didn't understand that Oral and Catherine Kuhlman specifically were going after these 540 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,940 things to generate a faith in people. 541 00:38:10,940 --> 00:38:15,040 They worked with the medical community, not against it. 542 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,920 There was no anti-intellectualism at Oral Roberts University. 543 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,480 Catherine Kuhlman, in most of her meetings, the first couple of rows were saturated with 544 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,400 heart doctors, surgeons, nurses, and people in the medical community. 545 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,180 There wasn't this us and them thing. 546 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:35,520 It was this, this is real. 547 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,760 It's real. 548 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,000 Let's validate it. 549 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,120 Let's open it up in our churches. 550 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,700 The Bible says, forbid not to speak in tongues. 551 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:52,400 And so we got 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14 telling us to open the gates so that the true moving 552 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880 of the Holy Spirit could occur. 553 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,160 We didn't do it. 554 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:03,880 So that opened the door for all of these people that are flaky, that are extreme, and the 555 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,200 onslaught of social media. 556 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,440 You can get on there and find people that are self-proclaimed everything. 557 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,620 And they're not under any kind of integrity or authority. 558 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,520 And they're accountable to no one. 559 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,200 And they're fleecing the flock. 560 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,200 That's what they're doing. 561 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,200 Wow. 562 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,880 So, you know, Mario, there's, I've got two questions that I've got just from the things 563 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,880 that you were just sharing. 564 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,440 And I'm going to ask both of them and let you kind of work them in together just so 565 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,040 that I don't forget them because they're so deep. 566 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,520 And it's making me ponder and really just maul some of these things over. 567 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,560 But the first one is you talked about the rapture and how teaching about the rapture 568 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:51,800 is what you believe is one of those things that really led to passivity in the overall 569 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,040 body of Christ, especially in the American church. 570 00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:02,080 I know with that type of teaching, I've basically kind of, I'm 38 years old right now. 571 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,100 And I just got married five months ago. 572 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:09,340 And my whole life, I have been wanted to be a husband and a father. 573 00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:13,240 And I've known that that's part of the calling that God has on my life. 574 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:18,440 But people that are older than me, people that have already gone through being a husband 575 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:24,760 and a father and having their family and they're towards retirement, now they've just been 576 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,760 talking about Jesus coming again, Jesus coming again. 577 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,760 And it's actually, it went from something that's encouraging to something that's depressing 578 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,300 the following generation. 579 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:42,920 And I've definitely felt victim of that, not wanting Jesus to come back before I've done 580 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600 what I felt God was calling me to do. 581 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,200 And so I totally agree with what you were talking about. 582 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,680 So I'd like you to kind of dig into that a little bit more. 583 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:58,320 But also speaking about that younger generation, you said that the youth want truth. 584 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,880 And like, so discernment seems to be something that's really key right now. 585 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,020 And I want to hear what you're seeing as evidence for that. 586 00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:11,640 And so I know kind of those things are basically speaking to the younger generation. 587 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,960 So if you can kind of just opine about that a little bit, I would appreciate that. 588 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,280 Okay, to your first question, I don't want to take anyone's rapture doctrine away. 589 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:30,560 I'm gonna tell you something, I know theologians, I've got friends that are the most gifted 590 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,480 Bible scholars in our world today. 591 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,560 And they're friends of mine, because I made it a point to seek them out. 592 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,800 And when they didn't want to know me, I made them know me, because I just love what they 593 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,960 do. 594 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:49,400 And I could take a person who believes in the rapture, pre-tribulation rapture, mid-tribulation 595 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,440 rapture, and the ones that believe the church is going to go through the great tribulation. 596 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,760 I could moderate a discussion. 597 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,400 And I promise you, it's just like it says in Proverbs, when a man speaks, he said it 598 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,760 is absolute truth until his neighbor comes and cross examines him. 599 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,080 So I could take this guy, and you'd be convinced. 600 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,720 And then this guy, and you would also be convinced. 601 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,480 And this guy, and you would be convinced. 602 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:28,200 And I believe that I look at the end times like the blind men that saw an elephant. 603 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,960 And all right, so one grabbed the ear and said, this is flat like a moray eel. 604 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:40,060 This is like a flat fish. 605 00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:42,760 One grabbed the trunk and said, no, it's like a tree. 606 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,080 And the other grabbed the belly and said, no, it's like a whale. 607 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640 And then one grabbed the tail and said, it's like a snake. 608 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,480 And they were all wrong, and they were all right. 609 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,720 And if you take prophetic teachers on the eschatology and lay them end to end, they'll 610 00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,920 point in all directions. 611 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,500 But here's what I believe is essential. 612 00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:04,000 So I don't want to get any emails or say, you shouldn't have said anything against this 613 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,480 or against that or the other. 614 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,480 I'm not. 615 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,320 I'm going to tell you that what I believe is that there is a mystery associated with 616 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,800 the end times in order to produce a dynamic tension. 617 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,200 And that tension is perseverance and urgency. 618 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,280 The Bible says, be urgent in season and out of season. 619 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,760 What God is trying to do to the church is make them aware that only a few things are 620 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,600 important right now, because don't hold tightly on your possessions. 621 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:42,000 Don't hold tightly on to your carnal dreams. 622 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:48,080 Be ready at any moment to go, but be ready just as ready to dig in. 623 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,080 D.L. 624 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,120 Booty, they said, if you knew Christ was coming tomorrow, what would you do today? 625 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,760 He said, I plant a tree. 626 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,600 So I'm going to tell you that this is what God is trying to do. 627 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:07,360 Keep us off balance, so to speak, so that we have this dynamic tension between urgency 628 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,360 and perseverance. 629 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Dig in like you're going to be here for 100 years, but be ready at any moment. 630 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,160 But here's what we can't do. 631 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,240 We can't have eschatology that has us off balance. 632 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,800 It's hard to defeat the enemy when you've got a sword in one hand and luggage in the 633 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,960 other. 634 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:34,800 So if your mind is to leaving and so until you know the if God were to take me, that's 635 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,800 autonomous. 636 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,440 That's I don't have any part of that. 637 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,440 He's just going to do it. 638 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,760 So in the meantime, I'm going to go up in the rapture. 639 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,440 If I'm going up in the rapture, I'm going up feet first, dragged by an angel, biting 640 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,720 demons all the way up. 641 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,360 Because as long as I'm here, I'm going to fight with fierceness. 642 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,600 I'm going to plan. 643 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,040 I'm going to dig in and invest. 644 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,840 We just bought a 5000 seat tent. 645 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,120 We're buying a 55 foot trailer. 646 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,080 We bought a stadium size sound system. 647 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,000 We bought 2000 more chairs, John. 648 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,080 We bought a truck for our television live streaming. 649 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000 What are you doing, Mario? 650 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,800 It's the end of the world, right? 651 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,480 Listen, I'm going out with a bang is what I'm doing. 652 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,880 Every day that I'm here, I'm going to make the loudest noise that I can for God's glory. 653 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,880 Wow. 654 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,880 Wow. 655 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:29,880 That's that's so good. 656 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,120 I appreciate you talking about that. 657 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,760 So I want to go into the second part of that word, discernment and the younger generation. 658 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,960 You're talking about how youth want truth. 659 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,760 What is the evidence that you're seeing of that? 660 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,440 And what makes you really believe that? 661 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:52,040 It's Gen Z, that is the first evidence are there are vast large gatherings of young people 662 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,440 going on right now that a lot of people don't hear. 663 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,880 Four and five thousand of them are getting together to understand Bible teaching, Bible 664 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,600 intercessory prayer. 665 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,720 There's a vast hunger for it. 666 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:11,680 Barna, you know, George Barna's group, they did a poll and they asked young people, what 667 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,640 is it about church that you don't like or that you wish was in church? 668 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,200 Number one was the presence of God. 669 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,660 They missed that. 670 00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:25,040 Number two is Bible teaching. 671 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,640 Now how do we know that's true? 672 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,260 Go to the Jesus Revolution film. 673 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:32,060 Look at Chuck Smith. 674 00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:33,420 What did he do? 675 00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:37,720 He began to teach expository preaching. 676 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:42,100 Instead of being a topical preacher, he was expository. 677 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:47,900 So he was going through one book after another in the Bible verse by verse. 678 00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:53,220 And when he started to do that, the young people came in record numbers. 679 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:55,680 We saw the same thing in Berkeley. 680 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,300 It is Bible doctrine that youth are interested in. 681 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:06,640 And if pastors would only wake up and realize that who they think are young are not young 682 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,960 anymore. 683 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:14,920 You know, and I was in Long Island with five mega church pastors and they asked me a question. 684 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:21,400 We had lunch together and they said, they were in the Jesus movement and they said to 685 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,600 me, they asked me, why are our youth groups so small? 686 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,700 All of us came out of youth revival. 687 00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,640 Why are youth groups so small? 688 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,760 And I looked at him and I said, are you sure you want to hear the answer to that question? 689 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,680 Because the answer is y'all still think you're the youth group. 690 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,800 You haven't become fathers. 691 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,360 Wow. 692 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:51,240 You still think it's about you and your music and your day and your time and it's not. 693 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,240 Wow. 694 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,080 You are not mentoring. 695 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,320 And that's what and at the minute that young people feel I'm going to get training, if 696 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,520 you offer training, they're coming. 697 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,600 If you offer Bible teaching, they're coming. 698 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,760 If you operate in the gifts of the spirit, they're coming. 699 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:14,560 But if you're doing this Anthony Robbins imitation, if you're strutting across the stage, telling 700 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,440 little stories, monologues and narratives and tropes, the kids, they're not, they don't 701 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,440 want it. 702 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,000 They can see right through it. 703 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,240 They can get that everywhere else, but that's what they want. 704 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:29,240 Yeah. 705 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,680 You can get a motivational speech anywhere. 706 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640 I mean, TikTok is full of them. 707 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,120 So is Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and YouTube. 708 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:42,720 I mean, there's so many places that you can get some sort of motivation to do better, 709 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:50,280 be better, do more, get up earlier, stay up later, work out harder, but they can't touch 710 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,280 the word of God. 711 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,280 That's it. 712 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,280 No, they can't. 713 00:48:53,280 --> 00:49:00,640 I mean, it's good to do all those things, but the word of God is key and central to 714 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,640 what we're doing. 715 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:09,080 And if we remove that, we're not actually going to be a successful person and a successful 716 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,240 Christian for sure. 717 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:17,760 What you were talking about reminds me of 2 Timothy 2, 2, how Paul told Timothy that 718 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,640 what I have taught you in trust of faithful men who will be able to teach others. 719 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,800 So you have discipleship in action right there. 720 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,120 Paul to Timothy, Timothy to faithful men and faithful men to others. 721 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,120 And what you were saying to those five mega church pastors and telling them you still 722 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,400 think that you're the youth group. 723 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:43,000 I mean, you're not factually fathering, you're not discipling, you're not making those disciples. 724 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,500 Wow. 725 00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:52,360 I mean, there's a breakdown of that 2 Timothy 2, 2 layout or outline that God's given us 726 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,160 through the apostle Paul. 727 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,440 How do we fix that? 728 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,840 What is something that the person that's listening to this now or watching this right now that 729 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,600 they can do to take that step to fix that problem? 730 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:14,740 To fix that problem is to get alone with God and turn off all the noise and wait on God 731 00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:23,320 and you'll hear and anyone here that and let's face it, you know, I have a way of thinning 732 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,860 the herd of people that don't want God and whenever I speak, it's funny because they 733 00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:33,040 leave and the drug addicts come in and the gangsters come in. 734 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,600 And so if you empty out those seats, so those lost souls can come in, I'm good with that. 735 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,900 And I'll keep preaching that way. 736 00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:48,880 But I think that cutting through the noise of all of the bad influences that preachers 737 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:55,400 and young leaders get today to stop it and in the silence to wait on God because here's 738 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,720 your secret weapon. 739 00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:03,120 And I want to say this to those who are watching, here is your secret weapon is your desire 740 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,200 to be used of God. 741 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:12,280 If you have a sincere and honest desire to be used of God, then you are in the best possible 742 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:19,000 condition you can be in because there's no way that you're going to escape being told 743 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,360 by God what to do with your life. 744 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,040 It's impossible. 745 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:28,600 And you know, I never thought of that that way until I reread the Beatitudes where it 746 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,280 said blessed are those who hunger. 747 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,920 And I thought when is it a blessing to be hungry? 748 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,840 See, when is that a blessing? 749 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,240 And why is it a blessing? 750 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:45,200 Well, it's a blessing because you're willing to pay the price. 751 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,180 The hungry are willing to pay the price. 752 00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:51,560 That's what's left out of the equation. 753 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:57,320 You know, opportunities are available everywhere, but they're purchased. 754 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,200 They're not in an endowment. 755 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,540 They're bought and paid for by the passion of the person. 756 00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:06,760 So here's how it works. 757 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,920 Blessed are those who hunger. 758 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,000 Why? 759 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,480 Because that hunger will give you the energy to pay the price. 760 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,960 Blessed are those who hunger. 761 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,960 Why? 762 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,440 Because of where that hunger came from. 763 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,880 God gave it to you. 764 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,060 All right. 765 00:52:22,060 --> 00:52:23,060 Why? 766 00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:24,840 Blessed are those who are hungry. 767 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,840 Why? 768 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,360 Because of what you're hungry for. 769 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:34,880 God does not awaken a desire for you to have something deeply unless he means to give it 770 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,360 to you. 771 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:44,360 When Oral wanted miracles, Catherine wanted miracles, Billy Graham wanted souls, and Chuck 772 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,960 Smith wanted to obey God. 773 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,240 That was it. 774 00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,440 And so it overtakes you. 775 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,680 You know, I had dinner with David Wilkerson one night, and I was trying to decide, Brother 776 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,760 Dave, where am I supposed to go? 777 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,840 I don't know the will of God for my life. 778 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,520 And he looked at me and he said, son, let me tell you something, the will of God will 779 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,520 grow on you. 780 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,520 It'll grow on you. 781 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,120 It starts as a spark and a hunger, a fascination. 782 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:18,120 You find yourself praying and seeking, and you're setting yourself apart until one day, 783 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:25,400 instantly you are faced with the fact of what you're to do and how you're to do it. 784 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:31,560 And what it is becomes inescapable, irresistible, and unavoidable. 785 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,320 That's why those who hunger are blessed. 786 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,320 Wow. 787 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,380 Wow. 788 00:53:36,380 --> 00:53:38,680 That's why those who hunger are blessed. 789 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,560 That is a breakdown of that passage that I have not heard like that. 790 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,920 And I really appreciate that. 791 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:52,180 That makes so much sense that what we are hungry for, that that is where there's a blessing. 792 00:53:52,180 --> 00:53:55,000 And that's where, wow. 793 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:01,200 You know, Mario, every time that we talk, I start writing down notes on my notepad and 794 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,800 we've filled up a whole page. 795 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:09,760 And sometimes that's how I indicate we need to kind of wrap things up this time and schedule 796 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,240 another opportunity to talk because we've gone almost an hour, my friend. 797 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:18,400 And I just feel closer with Jesus because we've been talking. 798 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,560 And I hope that everybody that has been watching and listening to this Charisma News podcast 799 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