WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.439 There comes a moment in midlife when you realize 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:05.019 reinvention isn't about starting over. It's about 00:00:05.019 --> 00:00:08.039 becoming more of who you really are. Today's 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:10.080 guest, Laila White, knows that journey better 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:13.060 than most. She spent decades at the top of the 00:00:13.060 --> 00:00:15.580 fitness and wellness world, from designing gyms 00:00:15.580 --> 00:00:18.620 for Four Seasons hotels to coaching royalty and 00:00:18.620 --> 00:00:22.059 CEOs, but her real legacy is how she lifts others 00:00:22.059 --> 00:00:24.899 up. This is a conversation about resilience, 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.280 reinvention, and what it really means to thrive, 00:00:27.660 --> 00:00:31.940 body, mind, and soul. in your 40s, 50s, and beyond. 00:00:32.340 --> 00:00:34.700 Know this, you're not too late, you're right 00:00:34.700 --> 00:00:37.979 on time, and the next chapter might just be your 00:00:37.979 --> 00:00:41.000 most powerful one yet. And if you love this episode, 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.140 don't forget to share it with a friend, a family 00:00:43.140 --> 00:00:46.500 member, or anyone who needs to hear this. Layla 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:49.079 White is a trailblazer in Asia's fitness and 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:52.219 wellness industry, with over 25 years of experience 00:00:52.219 --> 00:00:55.000 spanning corporate wellness, luxury hospitality, 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:58.070 and women's empowerment. As the managing director 00:00:58.070 --> 00:01:01.090 of Elite Fit, Leila has worked with global brands 00:01:01.090 --> 00:01:04.030 like Four Seasons, Shangri -La, and Ritz Carlton, 00:01:04.549 --> 00:01:07.310 designing world -class fitness facilities and 00:01:07.310 --> 00:01:09.709 leading programs that combine science, movement, 00:01:09.930 --> 00:01:13.010 and mindfulness. A former Reebok master trainer, 00:01:13.549 --> 00:01:16.049 author, and speaker, Leila has been featured 00:01:16.049 --> 00:01:18.790 in the Straits Times, Shape Magazine, and Women's 00:01:18.790 --> 00:01:21.530 Weekly, and was named one of Asia's top women 00:01:21.530 --> 00:01:25.939 leaders in 2023. Beyond Fitness, she is the founder 00:01:25.939 --> 00:01:28.799 of Gal Up, a women's collective that fosters 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:31.319 resilience, confidence, and connection through 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.819 authentic conversations and community initiatives. 00:01:34.579 --> 00:01:37.159 Her projects, including A Spoonful of Hope and 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.980 the Passing It Forward campaign, empower single 00:01:39.980 --> 00:01:42.760 mothers and vulnerable families with the three 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.319 staples of rice, soya sauce, and eggs representing 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:51.209 community, spice, and life. The 40s Formula. 00:01:51.469 --> 00:01:55.469 The 40s Formula. The 40s Formula. Hosted by Jasmine 00:01:55.469 --> 00:01:58.650 Dillon, integrated health strategist specializing 00:01:58.650 --> 00:02:01.519 in gut health. hormones and midlife well -being. 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.659 And Amanda Lim, Director of Lyft Clinic and a 00:02:04.659 --> 00:02:07.180 leading expert in female strength and metabolism. 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.939 Name one of CNA's top podcasts and winner of 00:02:10.939 --> 00:02:14.379 the 2025 Asia podcast awards in the best health 00:02:14.379 --> 00:02:17.120 and wellness podcast category. The 40s Formula 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:20.500 is your no -fluff science meets real -life guide 00:02:20.500 --> 00:02:26.550 to thriving in your 40s. Welcome, Leila. We are 00:02:26.550 --> 00:02:28.750 so glad to have you here with us. Thank you very 00:02:28.750 --> 00:02:31.949 much. I'm trying not to be nervous. This is going 00:02:31.949 --> 00:02:35.289 to be fun. That warms up. You just filled our 00:02:35.289 --> 00:02:38.150 cup, girl. Now, you have worn a ton of hats. 00:02:38.169 --> 00:02:39.930 So you have been Reebok's master trainer. And 00:02:39.930 --> 00:02:41.870 again, I'm familiar with how hard it is to reach 00:02:41.870 --> 00:02:43.629 master trainer status with certain companies. 00:02:43.969 --> 00:02:45.949 You've been a fitness company founder. You've 00:02:45.949 --> 00:02:48.009 been a runner up for Mrs. Singapore, which I 00:02:48.009 --> 00:02:49.810 really want to hear more about. But when you 00:02:49.810 --> 00:02:52.930 look back on all that you've accomplished, what's 00:02:52.930 --> 00:02:55.580 the biggest lesson that you've learned? The biggest 00:02:55.580 --> 00:02:59.879 lesson is nothing is a straight line. There's 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:03.219 always detours. There are opportunities the way 00:03:03.219 --> 00:03:10.479 I see it. I learn from fitness discipline, from 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:16.039 businesses resilience, and grace from so whatever. 00:03:16.219 --> 00:03:19.340 People like to say failure, which I don't like 00:03:19.340 --> 00:03:21.400 to say. I don't think it's failing. What's your 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:25.060 rebrand on failure? For me is another opportunity. 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.280 It's leading you another door opening for you 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.580 to take the risk and explore. It's an exploration. 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:33.900 Oh, I love that. I love that viewpoint because 00:03:33.900 --> 00:03:36.919 it's you're right. It's not it's not about, you 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.360 know, that door is closed and that's it end of 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.379 it's like that's closed, but another one's opened 00:03:41.379 --> 00:03:44.620 and now I can lead into something else. Yeah, 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:49.409 I think. All the things that I have done is because 00:03:49.409 --> 00:03:52.189 something didn't work out according to what I 00:03:52.189 --> 00:03:54.370 planned and something, you know, and I'm very 00:03:54.370 --> 00:03:57.469 resilient and I love life and I want to see where 00:03:57.469 --> 00:04:00.729 it goes. But also having said that, a friend 00:04:00.729 --> 00:04:03.509 of mine had discussion with me a long time ago. 00:04:03.889 --> 00:04:06.389 He goes to university, takes his master's, so 00:04:06.389 --> 00:04:09.330 everything is curated. But for me, I just finished 00:04:09.330 --> 00:04:13.090 secondary school. And then I go like, OK, I'm 00:04:13.090 --> 00:04:14.949 going to try. I did modeling. I did this. I did 00:04:14.949 --> 00:04:17.449 that. So I was just trying to find myself. So 00:04:17.449 --> 00:04:20.829 I was not structured in my thinking. I was more 00:04:20.829 --> 00:04:24.089 of a risk taker. And I think that, you know, 00:04:24.230 --> 00:04:25.949 people like yourself who have worn these many 00:04:25.949 --> 00:04:28.610 hats, I think they have to be risk takers. I 00:04:28.610 --> 00:04:31.470 think there's an element of that kind of predictive, 00:04:31.470 --> 00:04:33.129 you know, you're talking about your friend, right, 00:04:33.170 --> 00:04:35.170 where it's like A to B, B to C. And I think that 00:04:35.170 --> 00:04:37.589 that is the low risk variation of life or version 00:04:37.589 --> 00:04:39.250 of life. And then you're leading the one that's 00:04:39.250 --> 00:04:42.160 kind of cool. for women who might be more of 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.120 that first type how and let's say they're not 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:46.519 happy that way let's say they've done everything 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.740 by the book and they're sick of that shit they 00:04:48.740 --> 00:04:51.339 want something adventurous how do they get themselves 00:04:51.339 --> 00:04:53.540 unstuck how do they learn to take risks especially 00:04:53.540 --> 00:04:57.800 kind of later in life well for me i would say 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:03.839 risk it all but yeah but it's not a great advice 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:07.459 because it's all coming out from fear so if you 00:05:07.709 --> 00:05:11.069 uh in this pattern all the time for you to step 00:05:11.069 --> 00:05:13.990 out is difficult but you can always put one foot 00:05:13.990 --> 00:05:17.389 in and one foot out explore explore and then 00:05:17.389 --> 00:05:21.350 if you are comfortable so i think as you go into 00:05:21.350 --> 00:05:24.290 life and what you want to do you are comfortable 00:05:24.290 --> 00:05:28.290 to take the risk and we need to change our mindset 00:05:28.290 --> 00:05:31.889 especially as singaporeans we are so afraid of 00:05:31.889 --> 00:05:35.319 failing Because our school structure is you put 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.480 in different schools and different grades and 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.639 at a very young age. Yeah, you're tracked. Yeah, 00:05:40.259 --> 00:05:44.279 very silly, I think. It doesn't give you space 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:48.579 to grow. So for women, we also have to understand 00:05:48.579 --> 00:05:52.100 that we are like the foundation of a home. We 00:05:52.100 --> 00:05:55.480 can do it all, but sometimes not all at the same 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.420 time. And I think that's a hard lesson to learn 00:05:58.420 --> 00:06:00.620 when you are used to high achieving. Because 00:06:00.620 --> 00:06:02.379 you're right about Singaporeans kind of having 00:06:02.379 --> 00:06:05.379 that success and failure kind of duality, but 00:06:05.379 --> 00:06:08.040 also because they tend to be so high achieving 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.899 that the idea of failure is just abhorrent. But 00:06:11.899 --> 00:06:15.879 what is high achieving? You have to answer that 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:20.699 question for yourself. Success doesn't mean whatever 00:06:20.699 --> 00:06:24.360 I've done. I don't consider that a success. Success 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:28.649 to me is... knowing my whys, sticking to my whys 00:06:28.649 --> 00:06:32.310 and knowing who I am, to the very core of me. 00:06:32.810 --> 00:06:38.269 So I think when people talk about, you know, 00:06:38.949 --> 00:06:42.930 they're so afraid of failing, it's in our system, 00:06:43.310 --> 00:06:48.009 it's from our upbringing, it has to change. This 00:06:48.009 --> 00:06:53.500 word failure, I think it's kind of very... vulgar. 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:55.980 Yeah, no, I think you're right. It feels very 00:06:55.980 --> 00:06:58.120 final. Yeah. And it's not. Yeah. Like you said, 00:06:58.139 --> 00:07:00.120 it's really a diversion. It's a redirection. 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:02.500 It's a showing you something you didn't see before. 00:07:02.860 --> 00:07:05.360 So what what has been your why? What's been your 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.339 driving force to get you from where you were 00:07:07.339 --> 00:07:10.899 to where you are today? Everything I do is with 00:07:10.899 --> 00:07:16.879 intentions and purpose. I like to. I like to 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.279 be able to, if it makes sense, I like to explore 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:24.930 anything that. can open up and connect not just 00:07:24.930 --> 00:07:27.509 the physical part, but the mind, the body and 00:07:27.509 --> 00:07:29.610 the spirit. I know it sounds like very woo woo. 00:07:29.870 --> 00:07:32.730 But at the end of the day, that's how I feel 00:07:32.730 --> 00:07:35.170 with the things that I want to do. I don't follow 00:07:35.170 --> 00:07:40.670 trends. I don't follow, you know, fads. I follow 00:07:40.670 --> 00:07:45.790 connecting with humans. Like what do people want? 00:07:45.930 --> 00:07:49.829 What do people need? You will never be out of 00:07:49.829 --> 00:07:52.420 trend. That's the way I see it. So I mean, I 00:07:52.420 --> 00:07:55.300 guess you got into fitness and it feels weird 00:07:55.300 --> 00:07:58.819 because you got into fitness before it was a 00:07:58.819 --> 00:08:02.379 trend, before it was a thing. How did that come 00:08:02.379 --> 00:08:05.500 about for you then? So I had my first child, 00:08:05.699 --> 00:08:08.540 Zaviera, at that time she was a few months old 00:08:08.540 --> 00:08:11.939 and I saw my brother's body and he just came 00:08:11.939 --> 00:08:14.699 out from, what do you call it, National Service. 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.240 And he had this awesome, like, looks like Bruce 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:21.060 Lee. And I go, Oh my God, how did you do that? 00:08:21.300 --> 00:08:23.379 So he goes like, Oh, okay. So you just get a 00:08:23.379 --> 00:08:26.180 pair of dumbbells and the mini stepper. I had 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:31.639 a mini stepper. Love it. I used to have one of 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.870 those as well. I had in my bedroom something 00:08:35.870 --> 00:08:37.769 to do because obviously I was always struggling 00:08:37.769 --> 00:08:39.970 with weight and stuff so I was like oh you know 00:08:39.970 --> 00:08:42.429 I can use this but it was not with the dumbbells 00:08:42.429 --> 00:08:45.309 it was literally just this little mini set. So 00:08:45.309 --> 00:08:47.429 it's just the mini stepper and then he showed 00:08:47.429 --> 00:08:49.830 me a few exercises with the dumbbells so I fell 00:08:49.830 --> 00:08:51.850 in love with it so Xavier will go to sleep and 00:08:51.850 --> 00:08:54.730 put her to bed at eight I would do it and it 00:08:54.730 --> 00:08:56.649 started with five minutes and now I'm really 00:08:56.649 --> 00:09:00.370 out of breath I mean this is a child that never 00:09:00.370 --> 00:09:03.799 used to run for the school bus or whatever you 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.960 know and now I'm dying on this mini stepper but 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:09.940 after three months I go like I really want to 00:09:09.940 --> 00:09:11.759 learn I really want to learn because I fell in 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:14.259 love with it so I took a course in Singapore 00:09:14.259 --> 00:09:16.639 Sports Council and that was the best decision 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.559 I would study it was the first course there were 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.100 88 students most of them men I was gonna say 00:09:24.100 --> 00:09:27.379 how many ladies in that 88 student wow three 00:09:27.379 --> 00:09:31.759 and two housewives like me and another woman, 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:35.759 and I would stay up at night till 5 a .m. to 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.659 study because it was out of pocket. I paid $500 00:09:38.659 --> 00:09:41.740 for the course, whereas the guys, you know, the 00:09:41.740 --> 00:09:44.320 fitness center sent them over for the course 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:49.500 and they would fall asleep and be bored. So I 00:09:49.500 --> 00:09:52.960 studied and I got to be the second in class. 00:09:54.179 --> 00:09:56.559 That's amazing. Yeah, because I was interested. 00:09:57.899 --> 00:10:02.080 So one course after another and here I am and 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:06.480 I fell in love with it. I was curious about fitness 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.480 and when you're younger, you try to figure out 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.720 because you hear this, you hear that you follow 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.059 and you're not in tune with your body. So that's 00:10:16.059 --> 00:10:19.779 how I started with my first child. Then, and 00:10:19.779 --> 00:10:24.059 I also nurse. Oh my god, nursing, breastfeeding 00:10:24.059 --> 00:10:27.179 your kid, you know, who breastfeeds, who wants 00:10:27.179 --> 00:10:31.340 to be breastfed 30 minutes every, that's hard. 00:10:31.419 --> 00:10:34.059 So I lose all my weight, but still I wanted to 00:10:34.059 --> 00:10:37.539 be strong. And I was, you know, you go through 00:10:37.539 --> 00:10:40.700 modeling and it teaches you to have thick skin, 00:10:41.019 --> 00:10:44.860 which I love because they strip you when you 00:10:44.860 --> 00:10:49.600 come for an audition. But through fitness, I... 00:10:49.690 --> 00:10:53.509 Build confidence you feel strong inside because 00:10:53.509 --> 00:10:55.909 you're connected. You know, you're wise. So you 00:10:55.909 --> 00:10:59.470 were a model You are an Asian woman. Yes, these 00:10:59.470 --> 00:11:01.210 things I don't think of when I think of like 00:11:01.210 --> 00:11:03.029 the culture of strength, right? I think of that 00:11:03.029 --> 00:11:05.070 that that's the skinny side of things, right? 00:11:05.470 --> 00:11:07.509 Yeah Did you notice your body changing when you 00:11:07.509 --> 00:11:09.269 started doing some of these routines and were 00:11:09.269 --> 00:11:12.919 those acceptable changes? I don't, I stopped 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.100 listening to people on how they rate my body 00:11:16.100 --> 00:11:19.100 because it's always, you know, women have told 00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:21.000 me bluntly saying that, you know, I don't want 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.379 to be like you, you're too muscular. And I go 00:11:23.379 --> 00:11:26.639 like, whoa, I said, well, if you're lucky, muscle 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:29.620 comes just like that, but it comes through habits 00:11:29.620 --> 00:11:34.000 and discipline, hard work, you know, even if 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.259 you don't feel like it, you have to drag yourself 00:11:36.259 --> 00:11:40.919 to do something that you don't like. So for me, 00:11:40.909 --> 00:11:45.450 My body changes and I think it depends. Finally 00:11:45.450 --> 00:11:50.730 I learned in my 40s what does weight training 00:11:50.730 --> 00:11:55.169 can do for you compared to cardio exercises. 00:11:56.070 --> 00:11:58.549 Cardio exercises helps you burn fat. It's good 00:11:58.549 --> 00:12:04.389 for your lungs. It gives you more energy. But 00:12:04.389 --> 00:12:07.330 strength training, you lose weight doing just 00:12:07.330 --> 00:12:10.419 cardio. But if you want to shape and reshape 00:12:10.419 --> 00:12:14.480 your body, strength training, that's the whole 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.299 totally different ball game for you. You are 00:12:17.299 --> 00:12:20.360 ahead of the game on that. So just to sort of 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.440 go back to when you first started, was there 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.779 a difference in the training structure to the 00:12:25.779 --> 00:12:28.399 way it was back then when you were learning to 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.200 the way it is now and has your training changed? 00:12:31.850 --> 00:12:35.169 I am very proud to say that I still keep the 00:12:35.169 --> 00:12:39.690 very basic foundations when I learn at sports 00:12:39.690 --> 00:12:43.529 council, which is your form. Your form is key. 00:12:44.990 --> 00:12:49.889 And use, if you've mastered the very basic movement 00:12:49.889 --> 00:12:55.210 like squats and shoulder press and lunges and 00:12:55.210 --> 00:12:58.610 the movement and the form, you're all right. 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.519 The rest is all fluff because our body is meant 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.799 to move anyways. But movement is because our 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:10.220 body move. You want to make sure the movement 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:15.039 will not injure you. So that's where the basic 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.759 training, the foundation of basic training is 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.139 key. Yeah. And I'll agree with you there girl, 00:13:20.379 --> 00:13:22.320 especially thinking about training after 40. 00:13:23.299 --> 00:13:25.759 Everyone thinks training after 40, the main objective 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:27.860 is accumulating muscle. Well, those that are 00:13:27.860 --> 00:13:29.559 in the know think it's accumulating muscle mass. 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:32.620 And there is definitely an advantage to that. 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.889 But the real challenge is avoiding injury. Yes, 00:13:37.029 --> 00:13:39.490 so mobility being at the key of that and obviously 00:13:39.490 --> 00:13:41.669 moving, you know through the proper form I think 00:13:41.669 --> 00:13:44.129 a lot of folks they're finally getting the message 00:13:44.129 --> 00:13:46.809 of lifting heavy weights Yeah, but they're not 00:13:46.809 --> 00:13:48.889 at the message of you need to build a foundation 00:13:48.889 --> 00:13:51.529 upon which you can load heavy weights a hundred 00:13:51.529 --> 00:13:55.669 percent So going back to your question When I 00:13:55.669 --> 00:13:59.730 was learning in the beginning I was told to do 00:13:59.730 --> 00:14:05.580 very light weights and high reps, right and there's 00:14:05.580 --> 00:14:07.539 a difference between men training and women's 00:14:07.539 --> 00:14:10.500 training. I go like, body is body, it's just 00:14:10.500 --> 00:14:15.179 different anatomy, right? But for, as I grow 00:14:15.179 --> 00:14:19.340 older, I understand that as women, we are stronger 00:14:19.340 --> 00:14:23.860 than we think. My goodness, I get so riled up 00:14:23.860 --> 00:14:26.600 when I see trainers giving women one kg and two 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:29.860 kg at the gym. Hell, are you crazy? Look at the 00:14:29.860 --> 00:14:32.320 women's bag, handbag, and when they go to the 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:37.580 market. Kicking their kids up. Yes. So we women 00:14:37.580 --> 00:14:40.059 also bought into that hype. You know, we go, 00:14:40.179 --> 00:14:41.759 oh, we can't, we can't. I said, no, don't worry 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.340 about it. Just try. Try. Just see how many you 00:14:44.340 --> 00:14:47.419 can do. Even one. It's building confidence. Yeah. 00:14:47.779 --> 00:14:51.299 Right. So for me, as I grow older, training has 00:14:51.299 --> 00:14:53.639 changed, but the foundation still remains the 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.250 same. I train very heavy weights, but I know 00:14:57.250 --> 00:14:59.490 I can change my body. So if I want to build more 00:14:59.490 --> 00:15:02.759 muscle, I would train. the reps of four to six 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.460 and if i want to like tone down so now i'm freaking 00:15:05.460 --> 00:15:08.740 out because i used to be no seriously i just 00:15:08.740 --> 00:15:11.360 found out last month when i went to my tailor 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:16.379 so i used to be 34 27 34 but now i'm 37 27 37 00:15:16.379 --> 00:15:19.480 so i got a whoa i'm wider so it's not bad it's 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:21.879 not yeah but that's a booty measurement i'm hearing 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:24.000 okay i'm hearing three inches of straight booty 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.700 i'm just saying no but now i go like okay so 00:15:26.700 --> 00:15:30.009 i i've achieved this i want to So I change my 00:15:30.009 --> 00:15:32.629 training. So I change my training every two weeks. 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:35.490 And I think that's a powerful insight that is 00:15:35.490 --> 00:15:38.490 not getting out there enough. Which is that knowing 00:15:38.490 --> 00:15:41.769 about training, having knowledge about training 00:15:41.769 --> 00:15:44.629 also gives you control over your body shape. 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.200 And I think that is something that if more women 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.600 could understand that having this knowledge is 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.600 power, it's not just about, I'll just get randomly 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:55.440 huge and muscular, no. It's about creating exactly 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.679 what you want. And the more knowledge you have, 00:15:57.820 --> 00:16:00.360 the better you do that. A hundred percent. I 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:04.120 think we women always undervalue ourselves and 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:09.340 our opinion. I know we want to learn. But learn 00:16:09.340 --> 00:16:11.360 and also do your own research. It's your body. 00:16:11.779 --> 00:16:14.279 You know your body better than anybody else. 00:16:14.580 --> 00:16:16.279 Yeah, that's an end of one study right there. 00:16:16.379 --> 00:16:18.259 And it will take you through the rest of your 00:16:18.259 --> 00:16:20.419 life. So you get used to it. Now is the time 00:16:20.419 --> 00:16:22.440 when we actually have a question that is submitted 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:25.220 from our sponsors, The Meat Club. And they want 00:16:25.220 --> 00:16:27.960 to know, obviously for someone as beautiful and 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.240 glowing and strong as you are, what are the nutritional 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:34.000 foundations that you rely on to maintain your 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.620 physique? I eat, it depends, right? So I'm not 00:16:36.620 --> 00:16:39.299 going to lie. Don't be lying here, the sponsors 00:16:39.299 --> 00:16:41.659 are listening, okay? So I go through phases. 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.960 So if I, I'm not a foodie, thank God, because 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:50.200 I eat to socialize, but I eat my protein. I love 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:53.460 fish. I love chicken, rate meat. I only like 00:16:53.460 --> 00:16:55.860 it when I travel outside. I don't know why, maybe 00:16:55.860 --> 00:16:57.860 like of iron or something. I don't know. You 00:16:57.860 --> 00:17:01.580 should know better than me. But I try to eat 00:17:01.580 --> 00:17:06.839 more vegetables. But there are times I go, okay, 00:17:06.900 --> 00:17:10.740 I want to indulge. I'm not the McDonald's person. 00:17:11.380 --> 00:17:14.480 I'm more of an Asian cuisine. You know, the asam 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:19.130 pedas, the Malay food, the spicy food. like to 00:17:19.130 --> 00:17:22.329 claim that I'm disciplined enough if I eat like 00:17:22.329 --> 00:17:24.970 that today then tomorrow I'll balance it off 00:17:24.970 --> 00:17:28.849 with better eating. So I drink lots of water. 00:17:29.569 --> 00:17:31.089 So I think that's really interesting because 00:17:31.089 --> 00:17:32.470 I actually had a conversation with my husband 00:17:32.470 --> 00:17:35.029 the other day and I said to him do you know what 00:17:35.029 --> 00:17:38.690 I don't enjoy eating out anymore and the reason 00:17:38.690 --> 00:17:41.289 I don't enjoy eating out is because I feel like 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:46.079 One, I can do better at home. And two, I'm just 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:48.259 like, you know, you go there and everything always 00:17:48.259 --> 00:17:50.880 feels underwhelming. Like unless we're going 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.359 somewhere, which is top notch and someone's really 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.519 going to be providing the full on service and 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:58.079 it's the experience, I'd rather just eat at home 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:00.579 now because I know what I'm getting. I know what 00:18:00.579 --> 00:18:02.720 I'm doing and how I'm going to be making it and 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.019 you know, the whole shebang. But you know, if 00:18:05.019 --> 00:18:06.720 it's like a mediocre range where we're going 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.000 to take the kids, I'd rather just eat at home. 00:18:10.829 --> 00:18:12.529 my husband and I are huge eaters, right? So I 00:18:12.529 --> 00:18:15.470 was like, nothing's ever big enough for us. You 00:18:15.470 --> 00:18:17.190 get this little, you ask for chicken on your 00:18:17.190 --> 00:18:19.369 salad and it's like this much and you're like, 00:18:19.410 --> 00:18:21.410 no, I'm gonna need four portions of that to get 00:18:21.410 --> 00:18:24.630 what I need. But I hear you girl. But yeah, so 00:18:24.630 --> 00:18:27.329 you obviously have mastered your wellness. Can 00:18:27.329 --> 00:18:29.369 I ask you a bit of a personal question? Okay. 00:18:30.130 --> 00:18:32.509 You've made it through menopause. So you have 00:18:32.509 --> 00:18:36.230 menopause and you still look like this. People 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:40.470 think it's impossible. They do. I see them every 00:18:40.470 --> 00:18:41.809 day in my clinic, right? They come in and they 00:18:41.809 --> 00:18:43.670 say, oh, everything was going great and then 00:18:43.670 --> 00:18:45.430 menopause hit and I've never been able to recover. 00:18:46.150 --> 00:18:48.690 But you got through. Share the secrets, girl. 00:18:48.829 --> 00:18:54.660 Spill the tea. finding out why I didn't understand 00:18:54.660 --> 00:18:58.319 people asked told me that but did you did you 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:00.779 feel angry all the time I said I'm angry all 00:19:00.779 --> 00:19:04.259 the time every day of my life I would probably 00:19:04.259 --> 00:19:06.920 say the same what's the difference and I said 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.140 the the ones that bothered me the most is the 00:19:10.140 --> 00:19:14.480 feeling of bloatness I try to starve myself two 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.779 days three days you know not eating I still am 00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:22.049 that five kg on that five kg, I can't shake it 00:19:22.049 --> 00:19:26.529 off. And my hair was dropping. I was nothing 00:19:26.529 --> 00:19:33.589 worse than being black, bald. You know, and poor. 00:19:33.990 --> 00:19:37.849 So yeah, like I'm out of this. But I was lucky. 00:19:38.170 --> 00:19:41.250 I mean, there's blessings in everything. My client 00:19:41.250 --> 00:19:46.390 was dating this doctor. who I was talking to, 00:19:46.589 --> 00:19:50.069 and then she says, come over, let's do a test 00:19:50.069 --> 00:19:54.069 for menopause. Like a hormone panel? Like a hormone, 00:19:54.250 --> 00:19:59.910 yeah. So I was put on bioidentical. The astrogel, 00:20:00.809 --> 00:20:04.089 the testosterone. So it helped me. I mean, it's 00:20:04.089 --> 00:20:08.750 not automatic, but it took me a while. But also, 00:20:09.109 --> 00:20:13.359 never stop training. So it's not just... Even 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.220 with the menopause, I still train. It's part 00:20:17.220 --> 00:20:20.900 of my life now, so it's not like a drag. But 00:20:20.900 --> 00:20:24.500 I think I know training helps menopause. And 00:20:24.500 --> 00:20:29.480 there's so many proven science saying that women 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.279 should train. More and more every day, in fact. 00:20:32.980 --> 00:20:34.880 And I think, just real quick for our listeners, 00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:37.619 if you ever hear someone who is fit using the 00:20:37.619 --> 00:20:39.859 word train, I feel like it's very intentional. 00:20:40.029 --> 00:20:42.289 I feel like people who are not that fit, they 00:20:42.289 --> 00:20:45.069 use words like workout or exercise or move. When 00:20:45.069 --> 00:20:47.349 people are fit, they use the word train because 00:20:47.349 --> 00:20:50.750 that shows a level of intentionality and consistency 00:20:50.750 --> 00:20:54.049 through what they're doing. I didn't go for a 00:20:54.049 --> 00:20:56.950 workout. I trained as part of my program. So 00:20:56.950 --> 00:20:58.710 I just wanna, like I said, highlights of folks 00:20:58.710 --> 00:21:00.349 listening that when you hear someone talk about 00:21:00.349 --> 00:21:02.930 training, they're almost always serious about 00:21:02.930 --> 00:21:04.609 their fitness. And I think the other thing you 00:21:04.609 --> 00:21:08.869 mentioned was the HRT element. You took HRT. 00:21:09.130 --> 00:21:13.630 but that wasn't the magic pill. It was a tool 00:21:13.630 --> 00:21:16.369 to help you get to where you needed to be in 00:21:16.369 --> 00:21:18.849 order to optimize your training and in order 00:21:18.849 --> 00:21:21.410 to optimize your body composition. And I think 00:21:21.410 --> 00:21:23.970 people go on it thinking, oh, I'll just go on 00:21:23.970 --> 00:21:25.269 this and then I'll go back to the way I was. 00:21:25.950 --> 00:21:28.569 or it'll fix everything. But that's the thing, 00:21:28.730 --> 00:21:30.369 it doesn't. It just kind of helps you get your 00:21:30.369 --> 00:21:34.190 body to where it needs to be to give you the 00:21:34.190 --> 00:21:38.210 hormones that your body is now missing or that's 00:21:38.210 --> 00:21:40.650 a bit erratic at the moment. But at least then 00:21:40.650 --> 00:21:45.410 you've got the energy and the drive to get out 00:21:45.410 --> 00:21:49.190 there and do the work. Yeah. It's just like when 00:21:49.190 --> 00:21:52.109 people go for liposuction, right? Yeah. And then 00:21:52.109 --> 00:21:54.730 after the liposuction, they eat anything they 00:21:54.730 --> 00:21:56.970 want. It doesn't work that way. It gives you 00:21:56.970 --> 00:22:01.869 a head start. You need to maintain it. But it 00:22:01.869 --> 00:22:03.670 worked for me. It might not work for somebody 00:22:03.670 --> 00:22:06.430 else, but you need to find solutions. Life is 00:22:06.430 --> 00:22:08.529 about finding solutions. What works for you. 00:22:08.609 --> 00:22:11.410 Don't give up. You have to be resilient. We women 00:22:11.410 --> 00:22:14.930 are very resilient and it's our body. You feel 00:22:14.930 --> 00:22:18.130 what you want to look like. It's up to us. You're 00:22:18.130 --> 00:22:20.430 the one living in it. So take care of it, right? 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.359 So Leila, it's so clear that you are a master 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.019 of self care. You know everything about taking 00:22:25.019 --> 00:22:27.240 care of yourself and what works for you. But 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.200 I don't think everyone listening realizes the 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.660 impact that you make for other women. And I'd 00:22:31.660 --> 00:22:33.500 love to hear a little bit more about your Gallup 00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:37.220 project. So Gallup is an extension of what Michael 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:41.359 believes is because I have been a divorcee for 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:45.859 20 plus years I'm a single parent. I call myself 00:22:45.859 --> 00:22:48.880 single parent because I played both roles and 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:54.799 I met up. Really you're a double parent. I recently 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:59.940 spoken and become very close to my ex -husband's 00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:04.119 wife of 19 -20 years and we got to talking and 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:06.319 I've always wanted to do something for women. 00:23:06.910 --> 00:23:10.210 um not to save them but to show them there are 00:23:10.210 --> 00:23:14.690 other ways uh to build yourself up and I know 00:23:14.690 --> 00:23:17.609 the quality of women the resilience of women 00:23:17.609 --> 00:23:22.710 because I and many of my friends represents that 00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:26.670 so we got to talking and I wanted to get women 00:23:26.670 --> 00:23:29.630 together and I didn't want it to be the same 00:23:29.630 --> 00:23:34.490 let's let's sit in a circle let's you know cry 00:23:34.490 --> 00:23:41.190 and let's so um One of my, my team member came 00:23:41.190 --> 00:23:44.089 and told me that, oh, we should like meet, you 00:23:44.089 --> 00:23:46.710 know, once a week or once a month, the women 00:23:46.710 --> 00:23:49.170 at the wine bar. And then we just talk and I 00:23:49.170 --> 00:23:51.190 say, it doesn't work that way. I believe in movement 00:23:51.190 --> 00:23:54.710 because I'm a personal trainer by trade. So I 00:23:54.710 --> 00:23:57.369 believe that it's all trapped energy. Right? 00:23:57.569 --> 00:24:00.009 So we can sit down and talk about it and let's 00:24:00.009 --> 00:24:02.609 do something to release that energy and then 00:24:02.609 --> 00:24:05.990 come back and reflect what we learned. So for 00:24:05.990 --> 00:24:09.829 Gallup. It's an extension of a space where women 00:24:09.829 --> 00:24:11.750 celebrate themselves. We have signature dinners 00:24:11.750 --> 00:24:13.650 where you come in. Before you come in, we have 00:24:13.650 --> 00:24:16.829 a ritual. It's a black card. You write whatever 00:24:16.829 --> 00:24:19.849 disturbs you. It can be today, last 10 years. 00:24:19.930 --> 00:24:22.670 Write it down. Put it in an envelope anonymously. 00:24:23.170 --> 00:24:25.549 Pick a card of hope. Before you step in, we say, 00:24:25.910 --> 00:24:28.029 leave everything behind. We want to hear just 00:24:28.029 --> 00:24:30.269 about you. We don't want to hear about your... 00:24:30.190 --> 00:24:32.670 grandfather, your grandmother, your children, 00:24:32.769 --> 00:24:35.650 your husband. Let's just connect about you. Discover 00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:38.509 or rediscover yourself. And we have forums where 00:24:38.509 --> 00:24:41.390 we have experts that come and talk to women. 00:24:42.190 --> 00:24:45.250 But we do it in a restaurant settings. I don't 00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:46.970 want it to be like a PowerPoint. It's boring 00:24:46.970 --> 00:24:51.569 as hell. Women, you know, we are in so many routines. 00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:54.630 We want to like let loose and, you know, be yourselves. 00:24:55.109 --> 00:24:58.660 And then we have Tiffy. Online which is every 00:24:58.660 --> 00:25:08.019 Saturday TV online is treasured or effort So 00:25:08.019 --> 00:25:11.619 at 2 p .m. Everybody like from the u .s. We connect 00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:15.859 and we Maxine and I would navigate the conversation 00:25:15.859 --> 00:25:18.720 But we'll start off with whatever you want to 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.279 talk about and then we have to reflect what what 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.410 is the takeaway today? You know, when we have 00:25:23.410 --> 00:25:27.269 people with breast cancer, brain cancer, which 00:25:27.269 --> 00:25:31.190 make our problem means so minuscule. It brings 00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:33.410 you back to reality. And they are the one with 00:25:33.410 --> 00:25:37.490 the positive notes. So Tee Fee Outbound is where 00:25:37.490 --> 00:25:40.589 we sit around and after that we'll do an activity 00:25:40.589 --> 00:25:43.490 like the fragment room. We trash stuff and then 00:25:43.490 --> 00:25:45.809 come back and then we reflect. So what do we 00:25:45.809 --> 00:25:49.769 do? Most of the time what I got from Dance with 00:25:49.769 --> 00:25:53.319 the Drag Queens, we did that. Okay, how are we 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.700 not on the list? Please put Jasmine and I on 00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:58.819 the Gallup list. I need to be at the next Signature 00:25:58.819 --> 00:26:00.799 Dinner. I need to get up, dress up, show up. 00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:04.940 Okay, please. So that's where Gallup came about 00:26:04.940 --> 00:26:08.019 and then now we are extending it because we have 00:26:08.019 --> 00:26:11.859 been a year old. Now it's time for us to look 00:26:11.859 --> 00:26:15.299 at the people that are supposed to be building 00:26:15.299 --> 00:26:18.779 confidence and not so scared. So a spoonful of 00:26:18.779 --> 00:26:21.430 hope. came about yeah and so a spoonful of hope 00:26:21.430 --> 00:26:23.650 you and i were talking a little bit off air i 00:26:23.650 --> 00:26:26.089 was confused about what exactly it was and the 00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:28.130 name really is actually quite clear if you examine 00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:31.549 it it's about getting instrumental resources 00:26:31.549 --> 00:26:34.170 in the hands of the women that need them can 00:26:34.170 --> 00:26:35.970 you tell us a little bit more about that piece 00:26:35.970 --> 00:26:37.650 of the project so mandy you know i've been on 00:26:37.650 --> 00:26:39.650 this journey about improving my sleep oh you 00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:42.599 have been obsessed about it lately Well, I have 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:46.500 found something that has been incredible. Cozy 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:48.640 Earth bed sheets. That's saying a lot because 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:50.480 you are really picky about your sleep setup. 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.220 Exactly. These sheets are made from bamboo viscose. 00:26:53.299 --> 00:26:57.019 They are naturally breathable and I get the perfect 00:26:57.019 --> 00:27:00.359 night's sleep. They keep me cool all night. Oh, 00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:02.579 and I've been eyeing the pajamas too. They are 00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:05.650 so chic and super cozy. It's a total game changer 00:27:05.650 --> 00:27:08.609 and so relaxing for the evenings. And what's 00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:11.250 crazy is that Cozy Earth actually ships to Singapore, 00:27:11.589 --> 00:27:15.410 orders over $560 ship free and in the US orders 00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:17.910 over $50 ship free. And did you know you can 00:27:17.910 --> 00:27:22.049 get your biggest ever discount 41 % if you use 00:27:22.049 --> 00:27:26.309 code TFF today. So head over to CozyEarth .com 00:27:26.309 --> 00:27:30.430 and use that code TFF today. A lot of women always 00:27:30.430 --> 00:27:33.569 get stuck in the thought that I can't do it. 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.980 and it's easy for me to come and go, like, you 00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:38.759 can't do it, you know, because I come from a 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.640 kampung, I can do this, but I'm so far off, they 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:46.440 can't relate, right? So, it's funny enough, another 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.119 organization told me, it says, you know, you 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:50.500 can be wanting to teach these women how to be 00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:55.380 resilient, but food is key. So, because I come 00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:58.859 from a village, so my mother always tells me, 00:27:58.859 --> 00:28:00.539 if you have rice, you have soya sauce, you're 00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:03.220 good, but if you have rice, soya sauce and eggs, 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.720 you're set. So these are the three permanent 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.119 staples that we give to low -income single mothers 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.900 and we have donations from OK Brand, we have 00:28:14.900 --> 00:28:19.460 Green and Purple MoveBird donating vegetables 00:28:19.460 --> 00:28:24.059 and now we are working with Fruit from the Heart. 00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:28.799 So these are all we give people something that 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.559 they need but in return we also want them to 00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:35.789 be part of the giving. And next year, fingers 00:28:35.789 --> 00:28:40.009 crossed, we are rolling out programs like governance 00:28:40.009 --> 00:28:43.569 and literacy for low -income single mothers, 00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:49.190 sustainable household products, marketing and 00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:53.829 branding, and the other one is AI. Wow. So, fingers 00:28:53.829 --> 00:28:55.750 crossed, it's all in the works. Like I said, 00:28:55.750 --> 00:28:57.289 I feel like what you already have is huge and 00:28:57.289 --> 00:28:59.069 this is going to be even bigger. Yeah, because 00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:04.089 I don't... My philosophy is to take away excuses. 00:29:05.650 --> 00:29:08.970 You can't. We all have excuses. Let's give them 00:29:08.970 --> 00:29:11.990 solutions. At least try. Try. You don't like 00:29:11.990 --> 00:29:14.849 it. Let's move something else. So that's my whole 00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:17.529 key. And I mean, your message is so empowering. 00:29:17.650 --> 00:29:19.410 I mean, I don't think anyone could mistake what 00:29:19.410 --> 00:29:21.769 you are talking about. Again, no excuses. Find 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:24.309 solutions. There are no failures, right? I think 00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:27.210 you've been very clear about that. How do you 00:29:27.210 --> 00:29:29.950 communicate your value system to your daughters? 00:29:29.990 --> 00:29:35.069 You have two daughters. Hmm. By doing, by doing 00:29:35.069 --> 00:29:37.690 more. I mean, they call me a tyrant, but who 00:29:37.690 --> 00:29:40.069 cares? Honestly, I would take that as an honor, 00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:47.109 but by, by actually doing, you know, um, I can't. 00:29:47.369 --> 00:29:50.950 I'm very outspoken. I don't like bullies. I will 00:29:50.950 --> 00:29:53.890 always from young because I was bullied and I'm 00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:56.990 very outspoken about that in school and I sometimes 00:29:56.990 --> 00:29:59.089 I don't understand why when I was young I don't 00:29:59.089 --> 00:30:02.450 understand why I get always picked on. So at 00:30:02.450 --> 00:30:04.670 13 years old when I found my voice I go like 00:30:04.670 --> 00:30:09.819 no. So I do what I say. What happened at 13 that 00:30:09.819 --> 00:30:12.779 allowed you to find your voice? Things just opened 00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:16.720 up to me. So I was sexually abused when I was 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.900 four years old till whatever age by several men, 00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:26.059 like many, many men. I was raped at 12. At 13 00:30:26.059 --> 00:30:28.960 years old, one day I was sitting and I was... 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.440 Is this like a downer conversation? No, this 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:34.940 is the real conversation. Tell us more. I sat 00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:38.039 down and I was like, oh, this is not my fault, 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.339 you know, because victims always feel guilty 00:30:41.339 --> 00:30:44.839 because your body responds differently than your 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.500 head, right? So your body feels good because 00:30:47.500 --> 00:30:52.079 you crave attention and touch. love, right? And 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.619 then your head goes like, but this is done so 00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:57.900 secretively. Why is that? Right? Something must 00:30:57.900 --> 00:30:59.380 be wrong, but you're a child. You don't know 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:02.079 what to say. And then when you were growing up 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.359 in the village, it's not, you are seen, but you're 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.740 not heard. And because of the village mentality, 00:31:10.140 --> 00:31:13.420 it's all a village raise a child. So the adults 00:31:13.420 --> 00:31:16.660 cannot be wrong. The children, we don't speak. 00:31:17.220 --> 00:31:19.859 So for me, I finally realized that it wasn't 00:31:19.859 --> 00:31:23.839 my fault, and it was the adults' fault, the people 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.599 that abused me. So that opened up a lot of doors 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.420 for me. That's where I go like, nope, I am loud. 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.740 I used to be a very quiet child. So I don't know 00:31:33.740 --> 00:31:36.180 where this subject is going. I know, but I mean, 00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:39.220 about finding your voice at 13, because honestly, 00:31:39.420 --> 00:31:41.380 Leila, people are struggling to find their voice 00:31:41.380 --> 00:31:45.009 at 40, at 50, at 58. They have not yet found 00:31:45.009 --> 00:31:47.329 that voice. So that you were able to discover 00:31:47.329 --> 00:31:49.309 that amid the abuse that you were suffering is 00:31:49.309 --> 00:31:52.950 actually remarkable. I think because I don't 00:31:52.950 --> 00:31:55.789 know what happened. I think just because I value 00:31:55.789 --> 00:31:59.069 life itself, I guess, I don't know. But at a 00:31:59.069 --> 00:32:04.890 very young age, I see things that I have now. 00:32:05.049 --> 00:32:10.630 I go, whoa, that's a lot. But in return for my 00:32:10.630 --> 00:32:14.880 kids, I overprotected them. You know you what 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.720 you don't get you become so I would not allow 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:22.740 my children to have sleepovers I tell them whatever 00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:24.859 you do you sleep you lock your doors. I don't 00:32:24.859 --> 00:32:28.819 care so But all I can do is to make a better 00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:32.079 life for them. Yeah for my kids I want them to 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:38.240 remember that as I go towards my path I Help 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.769 people along the way I want my children, I raise 00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:45.170 my children with kindness, humility and know 00:32:45.170 --> 00:32:48.230 who you are from the beginning. It doesn't matter 00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:51.789 what people call you, you must know who you are 00:32:51.789 --> 00:32:56.670 and be very proud of... all the six races that 00:32:56.670 --> 00:32:59.809 came together to produce you. Six races, girl? 00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:03.529 Do you mind sharing, just for fun? So, on my 00:33:03.529 --> 00:33:08.009 side, I have Arab, Malay, Indian. My children's 00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:12.150 side, they have African American, Caucasian, 00:33:12.289 --> 00:33:15.170 and Native Americans. So just imagine all those 00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:18.450 people that came together at that time where 00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:22.079 racism is like in your face. to come and produce 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.079 love. And at the end of it, you have this insecurity 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.480 in Singapore. You have to be better. That's actually 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:32.259 just giving me goosebumps because it's so profound 00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:34.880 when you think about it and where they come from. 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:40.440 Wow. That's just wow. Yeah. So for me, I don't 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:47.140 believe in... I'm not so ego... I don't have 00:33:47.140 --> 00:33:50.200 big egos. I don't... believe in living legacy. 00:33:50.420 --> 00:33:52.819 I want my children to remember the things that 00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:57.779 I do out of kindness, not out of whatever popularity 00:33:57.779 --> 00:34:00.099 or whatever. I don't care about any of that because 00:34:00.099 --> 00:34:02.839 nothing remains. You know, everything changes 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.799 every single minute. You're so right. And again, 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.840 you know, we only have little kids, but a parenting 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:10.159 mantra that I always hear is that, you know, 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.480 your kids don't remember what you say. They remember 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.280 what you do, you know, who you are, what you 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.369 model. Now you consider yourself, and thank you 00:34:18.369 --> 00:34:20.090 for sharing about your six races, because I think 00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:22.329 that really represents the soul of Singapore's 00:34:22.329 --> 00:34:25.289 national diversity. And I say this only because 00:34:25.289 --> 00:34:27.389 you revealed this to me, but you're aged 58, 00:34:27.849 --> 00:34:30.570 this is SG60 years, so you're about as old as 00:34:30.570 --> 00:34:33.170 this nation, and you consider yourself a true 00:34:33.170 --> 00:34:35.030 blue Singaporean. I love that, that was in your 00:34:35.030 --> 00:34:38.389 bio, a true blue Singaporean. What are some stereotypes 00:34:38.389 --> 00:34:41.710 though? about Singaporean women that either you 00:34:41.710 --> 00:34:44.570 think are warranted or that you grew up breaking? 00:34:44.909 --> 00:34:46.809 Either one you can share. Well, you know, this 00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:49.329 is the most difficult question for me to answer. 00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:52.309 Oh, as a true blue, it's still hard. Yeah, because 00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:56.030 I don't know what a true blue, what Singaporean 00:34:56.030 --> 00:35:00.309 woman is. I don't know, because we I think women 00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:03.369 over the world, there's similarities and so many 00:35:03.369 --> 00:35:07.889 differences. So I had to ask. Non -Singaporean. 00:35:09.510 --> 00:35:11.510 So most of them goes like, oh, you know, they're 00:35:11.510 --> 00:35:15.309 very dry. They don't have a sense of humor. Oh, 00:35:15.510 --> 00:35:17.690 where do I fit in? Because I love like a hyena. 00:35:19.869 --> 00:35:25.469 But also they're very driven, very driven, very 00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:33.670 reliable, but in a box. I'm not in the box. But 00:35:33.670 --> 00:35:36.530 because of our structure, our rules and regulation 00:35:36.530 --> 00:35:39.829 in the country, not many people will think outside 00:35:39.829 --> 00:35:44.929 the box. And the five C's. Oh, yeah. Have you 00:35:44.929 --> 00:35:46.690 heard about the five? You have not. I heard about 00:35:46.690 --> 00:35:48.510 the five C's when I first moved to Singapore. 00:35:48.610 --> 00:35:50.670 I don't know what that is. Please enlighten me. 00:35:51.090 --> 00:35:53.329 Condominium. You have to have a condominium, 00:35:53.630 --> 00:35:58.090 credit card, cash, country club. and car yeah 00:35:58.090 --> 00:36:01.070 that's right i don't have any of those yeah how 00:36:01.070 --> 00:36:03.590 are you true blue that i feel like i might be 00:36:03.590 --> 00:36:13.389 more but a true blue singaporean i see i feel 00:36:13.389 --> 00:36:17.480 is like my mom My mom was a working mom. My mom 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:19.239 was not a stay -at -home mom. My grandmother 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.980 was a stay -at -home grandmother who looked after 00:36:21.980 --> 00:36:26.059 us. Very, very hardworking, very passionate. 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.739 True blue Singaporeans. I like to think that 00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:32.980 we are kind. I see it often, right? Not just 00:36:32.980 --> 00:36:35.099 this women, but men also I've seen it. Where 00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:37.000 people get lost on the street and they will go 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.820 like, can I help you? You know, but other where 00:36:40.820 --> 00:36:43.480 outside the other country, I've not seen that 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:49.960 yet. Maybe. not yet experienced it. I also believe 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:55.320 that we are torn. I mean, this might not be a 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:59.019 popular thing to say. I think because we are 00:36:59.019 --> 00:37:04.119 westernized in education, but we are very Eastern. 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.440 So that's a struggle for us, right? Our values 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.500 are still very Eastern, but we've got... Western 00:37:11.500 --> 00:37:16.059 influence. So it's this constant push and pull 00:37:16.059 --> 00:37:18.739 for us as Singaporean, I see. Other countries 00:37:18.739 --> 00:37:20.920 like Malaysia, Indonesia, I don't see that much. 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.000 There's not much of a struggle. Yeah, and I think, 00:37:24.179 --> 00:37:26.420 again, my impression of Malaysia and Indonesia 00:37:26.420 --> 00:37:28.739 are that they're more comfortably Asian, right? 00:37:28.739 --> 00:37:31.099 I always think about the Malaysia tourism slogan, 00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:34.320 right? Malaysia, truly Asia. It's like we don't 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:35.659 care that we're not Western because that's not 00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:38.059 us, right? Whereas Singapore does walk this very 00:37:38.059 --> 00:37:42.500 tricky line. But I think that we should really 00:37:42.500 --> 00:37:47.400 hold on to where we come from without losing... 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.239 Western cultures, influences have come and have 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.659 taught us a lot. We have become number one in 00:37:54.659 --> 00:37:59.440 the world. So you have to embrace both without 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.539 losing your values. Number one passport, also 00:38:03.539 --> 00:38:07.039 number one expensive. I'm sure there's other 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:08.280 number ones, but those are the ones that come 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.739 to mind, right? All right. Well, we have a fun 00:38:10.739 --> 00:38:12.820 segment coming up, and I love this segment. Do 00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:15.460 not feel trapped by your answer, meaning it's 00:38:15.460 --> 00:38:17.719 hot or hype. So I'm going to be asking you your 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.699 opinion on certain topics. You can tell me if 00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:23.079 you think it's legit, hot, or if you think it's 00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.300 overblown, hype, but you can also justify your 00:38:25.300 --> 00:38:26.639 answer. So like I said, don't feel trapped with 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.559 one word. I'm always trapped. Yeah. Hot or hype. 00:38:31.139 --> 00:38:33.780 You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Hype. 00:38:34.059 --> 00:38:36.739 You can change. It's all about mindset. It doesn't 00:38:36.739 --> 00:38:40.090 matter what age. You are, it's all about mindset. 00:38:40.409 --> 00:38:42.789 Yeah, I'll agree with that too. All right, hotter 00:38:42.789 --> 00:38:46.809 hype. Fitness after 50 is just maintenance, not 00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:50.110 progress. Nonsense. I've seen, I've trained clients 00:38:50.110 --> 00:38:52.989 at the age of 40 and above and they tend to stick 00:38:52.989 --> 00:38:58.110 to the routine longer than the 20s and the 30s. 00:38:58.170 --> 00:39:03.650 So I've seen 50, 60, 70 year olds are stronger 00:39:03.650 --> 00:39:06.030 than they've ever been. I love hearing that, 00:39:06.230 --> 00:39:08.289 by the way. And I think that's a good comment, 00:39:08.409 --> 00:39:10.869 too, about just kind of the maturity of your 00:39:10.869 --> 00:39:13.130 training age as well. You know, you don't go 00:39:13.130 --> 00:39:14.909 for the next shiny thing. You just stick to the 00:39:14.909 --> 00:39:18.829 damn program. Hot or hype? Social media as a 00:39:18.829 --> 00:39:21.409 meaningful form of connection. Depends what your 00:39:21.409 --> 00:39:25.469 intention is. It can connect people. It can help 00:39:25.469 --> 00:39:30.989 people connect hearts. But you have to be honest. 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.719 true what is your why that's that's the key yeah 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.019 I think you're right on I would agree yeah I 00:39:38.019 --> 00:39:42.099 think so okay hot or high mm -hmm Botox fillers 00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:46.280 enhancements okay meaning that you're fake I 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.960 think fake is who you are in your personality 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:55.139 there's nothing wrong with wanting to look the 00:39:55.139 --> 00:40:03.869 way you want to look what is Aging, to me is, 00:40:04.150 --> 00:40:06.670 it's not about aging, it's about living life, 00:40:07.510 --> 00:40:10.349 you know, the way you want it. Aging is such 00:40:10.349 --> 00:40:14.210 a, like, age gracefully, so you don't do botox, 00:40:14.230 --> 00:40:16.289 you don't do this. It's not none of anybody's 00:40:16.289 --> 00:40:19.070 business. So it's a lot, it's easy to say, you 00:40:19.070 --> 00:40:21.190 know, your beauty from inside. If you don't like 00:40:21.190 --> 00:40:24.949 what you see, I have a, sorry, a bit long in 00:40:24.949 --> 00:40:27.369 the back, we'll summarize. I'm gonna circle it 00:40:27.369 --> 00:40:30.539 back. A lot of people say that, oh, you know, 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.420 you had this, done that, done people doing this. 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.340 And I said, OK, just imagine that person went 00:40:36.340 --> 00:40:40.159 into an accident and they need reconstruction 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.219 surgery. And, you know, what do you think? I 00:40:44.219 --> 00:40:46.260 said, oh, that's fine. I said, who are you to 00:40:46.260 --> 00:40:49.400 define what's fine? Yeah, you know, so, no, I 00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:53.460 think it's hype, right? Yeah, definitely hype. 00:40:54.099 --> 00:40:56.559 That's the hype side of the fence. 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So don't forget to support 00:41:49.179 --> 00:41:53.360 the show by using code TFF. Well, on that note, 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.400 thinking about, you know, how you present yourself 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.659 to the world, can you tell us a little bit about 00:41:57.659 --> 00:41:59.699 insider, how it was like to be Mrs. Singapore, 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.119 to be runner up for Mrs. Singapore? Just what 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.119 is pageant life really like? I I've joined a 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:11.309 lot of competition pageant, right? Miss Globe, 00:42:11.469 --> 00:42:16.070 Miss World, and Mrs. Singapore. I didn't like 00:42:16.070 --> 00:42:19.590 it very much. Can I just ask, is Mrs. Singapore 00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:21.829 a different age range to the Miss Singapore? 00:42:21.989 --> 00:42:24.090 Or is it that you've been married? Yeah, I was 00:42:24.090 --> 00:42:27.030 married. So it's not an age thing, it's just 00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:30.230 if you're married. I know another Mrs. Singapore 00:42:30.230 --> 00:42:33.469 contestant myself. You're my second Mrs. Singapore. 00:42:34.170 --> 00:42:38.239 How old were you when you entered? probably early 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:42.800 30s, 31, 32, I think. I can't remember. I didn't 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:48.099 enjoy it very much because any pageants, any 00:42:48.099 --> 00:42:51.519 competition, it's not the competition that you 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.420 should be... I'm not proud of the organization. 00:42:56.019 --> 00:43:00.800 Let's just say that. It wasn't about the... beauty, 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.940 I'm not talking about all the Mrs. Singapore 00:43:02.940 --> 00:43:08.000 pageant, just the one that I was in. It was not 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:12.360 about the people, but it's more about the getting 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.480 more tables, getting, you know, I didn't, yeah. 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.039 Yeah, so I don't like the pretence of one thing, 00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:24.159 but it's not the real thing. The one that I'm 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.849 really proud. that I've joined was the Glamour 00:43:27.849 --> 00:43:31.250 Award through Cary Models. So that was just pure 00:43:31.250 --> 00:43:34.969 beauty. You win, you lose. That's it. Very simple. 00:43:35.289 --> 00:43:37.329 There's no hidden agenda like saving the world, 00:43:37.369 --> 00:43:42.670 but we're actually not. What was your motivating 00:43:42.670 --> 00:43:45.030 factor for even joining the Packets? My friend! 00:43:47.230 --> 00:43:49.570 Would you like to mention her name on air? Robbie? 00:43:51.110 --> 00:43:54.510 So I told, I will never let her forget. So sometimes 00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:56.670 the picture comes up, I go like, see, see what 00:43:56.670 --> 00:43:59.449 you did? Every year send it back to her, right? 00:43:59.590 --> 00:44:02.289 Remember this? Thanks for that. It was my own 00:44:02.289 --> 00:44:04.269 experience. It's got nothing to do with the rest 00:44:04.269 --> 00:44:06.849 of the other ladies. You know, I think when you 00:44:06.849 --> 00:44:10.230 get into competition like this, if you lose your... 00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:12.699 Your call on who you are is a shame because we 00:44:12.699 --> 00:44:14.840 are mothers and there are grandmothers in that 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:19.440 competition who act like they're single and it's 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.460 all about beauty. That's why I was like, whoa, 00:44:21.500 --> 00:44:24.239 this is not for me. So that's what put you off 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.639 was the way that the behavior was. Okay. Because 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.480 you are mothers. You're in a different phase 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:33.800 of your life. Am I correct to assume then that 00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.320 your daughters were not? No. Not able or interested 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.980 to be in pageants? No, they've been asked, but 00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:42.280 they said no. I would think when you talked about 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.260 being a tyrant and kind of wanting them to have 00:44:44.260 --> 00:44:46.880 a different environment around them, that I would 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.440 not be an option. No, but they can if they want 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.019 to, but make sure you know your core because 00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:54.980 people will sway you, right? It's your only objective 00:44:54.980 --> 00:44:58.090 to win the crown? You have to do a lot of stuff 00:44:58.090 --> 00:45:00.530 that you don't want to. Maybe, maybe I'm not 00:45:00.530 --> 00:45:03.230 saying all pageants, but maybe are you willing 00:45:03.230 --> 00:45:05.489 to do that? Do you mind sharing that sort of 00:45:05.489 --> 00:45:10.090 stuff that you felt was not in line with who 00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:13.530 you are? So there was one contestant that had 00:45:13.530 --> 00:45:17.090 chicken pox and she was banned from coming in 00:45:17.090 --> 00:45:19.429 because we had a photo shoot. She turned up and 00:45:19.429 --> 00:45:22.309 from what I know, cause one of the judges became 00:45:22.309 --> 00:45:25.940 my very good friend later on. She went and took 00:45:25.940 --> 00:45:31.360 the puff and used it. The same puff everyone 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.500 else was using? And meaning she did that deliberately 00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:36.179 so that others would get it or she just didn't 00:45:36.179 --> 00:45:39.199 care? Either way. Either way is still not right. 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:45.539 Then I was, we were told to get, to buy tables, 00:45:45.820 --> 00:45:47.300 get your friends to buy tables. And that was 00:45:47.300 --> 00:45:50.440 a big push, right? And the way it was done, I 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:54.820 didn't agree. These are people that I know. And 00:45:54.820 --> 00:45:57.159 then the other thing that I really didn't like, 00:45:57.179 --> 00:46:00.159 this is the ultimate reason. We were mothers. 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.079 We had kids. We were asked to do like a fashion 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:10.599 show every Sunday at this studio club that is 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.880 empty every Sunday. Every Sunday, there's nobody 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.739 in the club. It's crazy. This is not Miss Singapore. 00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:22.909 This is Mrs. we have obligation and it was it 00:46:22.909 --> 00:46:26.769 was it was it doesn't sit right for me and you 00:46:26.769 --> 00:46:30.110 know I I just didn't want to be but I signed 00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:34.750 the contract so I I pushed through and yeah yeah 00:46:34.750 --> 00:46:38.869 but I met met many good friends there And again, 00:46:39.050 --> 00:46:42.030 that's at least there is some glimmer of positivity 00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:43.409 coming out of that, because it sounds like a 00:46:43.409 --> 00:46:45.170 little bit of a toxic environment, to be honest. 00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:48.610 Yeah, that's it. Toxic. But it's just my time. 00:46:48.730 --> 00:46:50.289 I'm not talking, please. I don't want to get 00:46:50.289 --> 00:46:52.989 like reviews from you guys. Yeah, exactly. The 00:46:52.989 --> 00:46:54.949 podcast gets shut down by the Mrs. Singapore 00:46:54.949 --> 00:46:58.210 pageant in 2025. But thank you for being candid 00:46:58.210 --> 00:47:01.170 with that. Well, you have been so candid in this 00:47:01.170 --> 00:47:03.070 interview today and shared so much with us, Leila. 00:47:03.610 --> 00:47:05.639 And first of all, we cannot... Appreciate enough 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.400 your real and rawness, but we would love your 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.659 guidance You know, I'll mention it for the third 00:47:10.659 --> 00:47:13.780 and final time you are 58 years old You have 00:47:13.780 --> 00:47:15.739 lived through the 40s beautifully almost through 00:47:15.739 --> 00:47:19.320 the 50s as well What advice do you have for our 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.760 listeners that are in their 40s on how to thrive 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.619 in this decade? What is your 40s formula? Get 00:47:26.619 --> 00:47:31.719 up dress up and show up. Yes one and Don't wait 00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.719 for some day You know, maybe I can be, yes, you 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.579 can be anything that you put your mind to. There 00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:41.539 is a difference between wellness and well -being. 00:47:42.219 --> 00:47:46.940 Wellness is what you do. Like you go and take 00:47:46.940 --> 00:47:49.559 yourself to the gym, you work out, you go for 00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.619 a walk, you eat better. That's wellness. But 00:47:53.619 --> 00:47:57.980 as you... A friend of mine who's a neuroscientist 00:47:57.980 --> 00:48:01.340 just told me a few days ago, saying that... If 00:48:01.340 --> 00:48:08.519 you do one thing for 60 days to 90 days, it becomes 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:15.079 a habit. Your body remembers it. So, get to your 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.860 wellness first by doing something that you are 00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:22.139 committed for consistently to make it a habit. 00:48:22.659 --> 00:48:24.900 And then you will be on your way for your well 00:48:24.900 --> 00:48:27.880 -being, which is your body is going to be connected 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.460 with your mind, body and spirit. So that's the 00:48:31.460 --> 00:48:35.300 way I see I love that 60 to 90 days from this 00:48:35.300 --> 00:48:37.699 very day very you could change your life Yeah, 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.440 and it doesn't have to be people get so wrapped 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:42.820 up with all I have to go to the gym You know 00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:47.059 60 minutes and I would know do it for 20 minutes 00:48:47.059 --> 00:48:50.440 first 10 minutes first It's your body, you know, 00:48:50.460 --> 00:48:54.079 you want to live healthy You don't want to live 00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.639 so long that your body doesn't function. You 00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:00.469 don't want to live So great now and then you 00:49:00.469 --> 00:49:02.809 go like I don't want to do this anymore and your 00:49:02.809 --> 00:49:05.869 body doesn't function you you look at longevity 00:49:05.869 --> 00:49:08.650 More than anything else think about Layla in 00:49:08.650 --> 00:49:10.869 the 90s on her stair stepper and her dumbbell 00:49:10.869 --> 00:49:13.469 Okay, getting out of breath in five minutes and 00:49:13.469 --> 00:49:16.170 now look at her. Well, thank you so so much for 00:49:16.170 --> 00:49:18.050 being with us today You've given us invaluable 00:49:18.050 --> 00:49:19.909 advice and we really really appreciate your wisdom. 00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:22.670 No, thank you so much I don't call it with wisdom 00:49:22.670 --> 00:49:24.650 is my experience in life. Thank you so much. 00:49:24.750 --> 00:49:27.429 We loved it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you 00:49:55.699 --> 00:50:00.449 Alphys. That's the new, new one. That's like 00:50:00.449 --> 00:50:03.750 the little children. Yeah. No, I think they're 00:50:03.750 --> 00:50:05.789 betas. I think the alphas - No, stop, there's 00:50:05.789 --> 00:50:09.769 already a beta? Yes, I think the alphas are the 00:50:09.769 --> 00:50:12.429 ones before our kids. No, like my niece, 14? 00:50:12.789 --> 00:50:15.989 Maybe. What? Okay, we're gonna, we are off air. 00:50:16.269 --> 00:50:18.289 This is already recording, so we'll remember 00:50:18.289 --> 00:50:19.789 this when we see it on the recording. We're gonna 00:50:19.789 --> 00:50:22.690 look this up. Yeah, we're gonna look this up.