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Welcome to a very special Christmas Day episode

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of the 40s Formula. If you're listening as a

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woman in her 40s who's doing all the things for

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everyone else and quietly wondering, is this

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really it? Then this episode is for you. Because

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today, instead of one guest, we've pulled together

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a collection of powerful moments from women who

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have sat where you are, felt what you're feeling,

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and asked the same questions that you might be

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asking in this season of life. At the end of

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every conversation, we ask our guest one simple

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but meaningful question. What's your 40s formula?

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And their answers? They're honest, layered and

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real. They speak about boundaries, confidence,

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health, identity shifts, relationships, rediscovering

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purpose and learning to choose themselves without

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guilt. So if you're feeling a little stretched

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thin, a little invisible or even just reflective

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as another year comes to a close, consider this

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your invitation to pause, to listen and to start

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shaping your own version of what life in your

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40s could look like. And if this episode resonates,

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we would love for you to share it with another

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woman who needs to hear that she is not alone

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in this phase of life. And if you've been finding

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comfort, clarity, or inspiration in these conversations,

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upcoming episodes and events. So wherever you

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are today, whether you're surrounded by family

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or carving a moment just for yourself, we hope

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this episode feels like a gentle reminder that

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your story still matters. Merry Christmas. But

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there is one thing that I say quite often, which

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I think answers it, which is that nothing exceptional

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ever comes from a comfort zone. And I believe

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that so entirely. And it helps me every day,

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literally every day, because it's not easy. life

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is not easy parenting is not easy doing this

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work that I absolutely love and I'm so grateful

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I get to do it and I know it looks super glamorous

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on social media and I am so grateful I can't

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even tell you how grateful I am but it's really

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hard right it's really really hard it's really

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hard to leave my daughter at four in the morning

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and have to replace me with a teddy bear and

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then she wakes up at ten to six and calls me

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at the airport that's really hard right it's

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really hard to travel around alone and land in

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cities that you don't know and all of these things

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It's really hard to not know where your money's

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coming from when you're building a business and

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you've got cash flow challenges and all of those

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things. But we don't talk about it. But what

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I always remind myself is, well, if it was easy,

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everybody would do it. If it was easy, it wouldn't

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be great. Because if it was easy, it would just

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be boring, right? Probably. So I think that's

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really powerful. I believe it's really true.

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I don't think anything exceptional comes from

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just being comfortable. I think we have to push

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ourselves and probably throughout our 40s, it's

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going to happen more and more and more because

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our children are going to grow, our bodies are

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going to change, life changes. But I also think

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that there are more women in their 50s and 60s

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thriving now than ever in history. So I feel

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like we have a lot to look forward to. I would

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say, I think as women in our 40s, we should stand

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in our power, you know. We used to probably prioritize

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other people or, you know, say yes too much.

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I think now is a time where we look inward and

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we look at that self -care and that's through

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the food choices that we make. And we stand in

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that. We own it. And it's that mindset change,

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really, that, you know, now it's about us, focusing

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on us. This is that time. And, you know, that

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40s also goes into that perimenopausal phase.

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And I love to use that word. It's perimenopause.

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Pause. Let's all stop and think and reflect and

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then move forward. I work with a lot of women

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who have experienced menopause, who are in that

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age and stage of life. And what I've noticed

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is most of them are under -muscled. We talk about

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body fat being high. That's a thing for sure.

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But I don't think being under -muscled gets enough

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recognition. And if we look at... preparing for

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the 40s and 50s and beyond what holds us in good

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stead and steed is having sufficient muscle mass

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again quality of life independence as you age

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healthy blood sugar relationship healthy metabolism

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everyone wants to blame menopause for their metabolism

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but if you enter menopause under muscled your

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metabolism stands no chance of course it's going

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to be complete shit show so muscle mass muscle

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mass muscle mass build the muscle as early as

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you can as often as you can and do not stop like

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just keep going turn up imperfectly and make

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that a habit I tell that to my clients all the

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time I'm like I can help anyone who turns up

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but I cannot do the turning up for you so you

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get here I don't care if you've had three hours

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of sleep I don't care if you haven't slept I

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don't care if your child is sick I mean I do

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I hope they get better soon That is irrelevant.

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You know, it's your health and fitness journey.

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So get good at turning up for yourself and keep

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turning up. And then protein. Lots of protein.

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All the protein you can. Creatine, great supplement.

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Love it. Five, six to ten. I think high doses

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of ten. We're studying and seeing great cognitive

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benefits. So love, love, love, love, love me

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some creatine. And just keep connecting with

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yourself because. It's easier for you to help

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yourself if you understand why you're not helping

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yourself or where you're not helping yourself,

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where you're not asking for help. So for me,

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it comes down to those three pillars. It's building

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muscle. It's getting enough protein in the diet.

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And it's unpacking your own relationship with

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yourself and continuing to evolve that because

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that only makes it easier to do the other two

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things time and time again. Don't be afraid to

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take your space. Yeah. You work for it. You earned

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it. You deserve it. So take this piece. Damn

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right. Get what you want. Yeah. I'm still figuring

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it out. What I've discovered so far is that it's

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so important to, if you want, to meet yourself

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and whatever vehicles that works best for you.

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For me, that's therapy. And I have come to treat

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therapy like going to the gym. And I used to

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only call my therapist when something happened

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instead of, you know, now we meet every two weeks,

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regardless if I have something to talk about

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or not. So whatever medium you want to use to

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meet yourself. And then I guess just asking yourself

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if all dimensions of you are really showing up

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in the way that you would like to show up. It's

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OK if you don't want all of them to show up,

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but I want all of me to show up. So I feel like

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I'm in my reinvention stage. I believe that the

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40s are where you ask all the questions and the

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50s is where, you know, apparently life is going

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to be really, really amazing. And then I'm looking

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at Melinda Gates in 60 and then Oprah at 70.

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Yes. And I'm like, yeah. So I'm looking at them

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going, OK, that's great. I think 40s is also,

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you know, the period of perimenopause for most

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women in the world. And this can really throw

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a spanner in the works and give you more questions

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to doubt yourself, right? So just remember that

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sometimes your hormones are playing a role, a

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major role in whatever lens that you're looking

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at life at, all the questions that you're asking.

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So definitely meet yourself, your health and

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your mental state. And I believe I learned this

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at the Hoffman process. You know, there's four

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parts to us, your physical body, your logical

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mind. That's the one that wants to do, do, do

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and be logical. Then your emotional child or

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self. So every day that person is different.

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Sometimes it's a child. You know, sometimes it's

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a five -year -old Uma that needs something sometimes

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is exactly who I am today. Uma 5 .0. Yeah, not

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yet, three years. The last part is your soul.

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So if you think of it as a horse carriage, the

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horse is the emotional child. It just wants to

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go and play, play with other horses, right? It

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doesn't want to be on the leash, right? And then

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the rider is the logical self, telling the child

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where to go. right and the entire carriage is

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the body but the passenger is your soul and your

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soul is telling the writer where to go yeah and

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i think i only found my soul recently yeah like

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i didn't know she was there so now i can see

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her yeah on most days so yeah i think 40s is

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like the best time ever for women it's the best

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and the hardest i think because you're somewhere

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where you got maybe some decent money, right?

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You've kind of figured out what you like, you

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don't like. Then your body is starting to send

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you signals and question yourself. But I think

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it's the great decade of being a questionologist

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for yourself. To focus on loving yourself more

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and putting yourself as a priority at this point

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is the perfect time because you're going to be

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learning how to live the future you. You already

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know that my avatar is almost like a director,

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right? And what I would say would be working

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for me, how I try to separate myself from productivity

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to trying to find my own identity is really to

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have that separation. And I like to describe

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it as be your own director for your own epic

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movie. The more you are able to then separate

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yourself. from your story. So look at yourself

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from outside. Find a different perspective. Give

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yourself a character. Give all your parts a character.

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So you're looking at yourself as a director and

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then all of a sudden that emotion doesn't feel

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so strong and you get more perspective. And then

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you will be able to perceive that life is not

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so hard. That there could be a different way

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to then touch on something, right? The football

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analogy. Do you know about this one? No, but

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I do love football. Tell me more. It depends

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which football you like. Yeah, I was going to

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say, actually, is this American football? I see

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you like leaning into the microphone. Okay, so

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the football analogy goes a little bit like this.

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So when you're a player in the field, right?

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Okay, soccer. I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Damn

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it. Now she's going to kick me out. It's okay.

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I'm British, so, you know, we play football.

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50 % of this audience understand. No, I'm just

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kidding. When you're a player in the field, you're

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really in it. Yo. Pushing in, you're reflexive.

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You're playing. You don't have time to think

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about keeping score. You're really in the game.

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You're there. You're present. But you're also

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feeling all the emotion and all the stress all

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at the same time. But then you think about yourself

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as a coach in the box. And all of a sudden, you're

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really far away, like a director. And you can

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see the plays on the fields. You can check out

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the strategy. You know how to rearrange players.

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And you know how to go at it from a different

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point of view. Let's talk about the people in

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the sidelines on the stands. Now, they are not

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in the game. They can comment. And they will

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keep score. Right? Not really the nice way either.

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Yep, you're right. But they're also supporters.

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And they're also there to cheer you on. Now,

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what about... in the helicopter, you know, the

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newscaster, giving you that bird's eye view.

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Now you're really far away. And all of a sudden,

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your problems are going to seem so small. And

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you have to, suddenly you have a little bit of

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space to go into awe, right? You're there to

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then just breathe a little, see it from bird's

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eye view, and all those pains just melt away.

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It's not so important anymore. So if you can

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think of yourself as a director, sometimes you're

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in the game. Sometimes you're in the box. Sometimes

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you're on the sidelines. They all have the, can

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I say, purpose, right? And they all have their

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seasons too, right? You can plan, you can see,

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you can strategize, and then you can be in the

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game. But don't forget to reflect. Get out of

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the game far away enough so that everything feels

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a little bit more sustainable. That's the word,

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sustainable. And find a different perspective.

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get in the chopper get the chopper once in a

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while be in it when you need to yes be the coach

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when you need to the manager when you need to

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sometimes you can make some comments you know

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like ah that was a fucking shit pass exactly

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but you know overall yeah take a step back and

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and take charge be in control yeah i mean there's

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so many choices out there and oh my gosh we're

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just gonna be Even more muddled with even more

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choices coming, you know, in the next, oh gosh,

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not even next year. Next few months, we're going

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to have like more improvements of AI, the more

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apps that we can actually use. We're going to

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be totally confused. So just take a step back.

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Go inside, not outside. That's where the noise

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is. Let the noise be there. Entertainment. And

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then just be a director and see where you want

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to go because it's not about productivity. It's

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not about... who or what we've achieved is about

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alignment. And we're supposed to just align ourselves

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a little bit every day. No pressure. Love it.

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Love it. Take that pressure away and take direction,

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take charge. Yeah, because you know what? Pen

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is in your hand and you can write your own script.

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That is the true story. The next chapter is yours,

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right? Own it. Be unapologetic. Why are we so

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afraid to... Say the word menopause. Yeah. You

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know, use the word. The more we use it, the more

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we normalize it. You know, we are giving you

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today important information. But you have a choice

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if you want to use that or not. And that's your

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choice. So you can use little bits of it. You

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can take the protein shake and not the creatine.

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You know, you will still be OK. Go and see the

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doctor if you need the help. Don't wait until

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it's too late. Do the strength training. Do ensure

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that you bank your bones because we are living

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longer and we do want to make sure that we have

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that. quality of life that our mothers don't

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my mom has osteoporosis she's 68 you know like

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I want to be 85 and still trying to do a chin

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up even though I can't but I still want the ability

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to try it's never too late but it's never too

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late ever and that's it it's never too late if

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you are listening and you're over 40 it's never

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too late if you're under 40 start learning and

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putting things in place now yeah There you go,

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girl. Preach, you know, use your youth, but also

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it's never too late, right? It's never too late

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to start. Your body is so incredible. I've had

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cancer twice. I'm 13 years in menopause. I've

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been through ups and downs and rounds and rounds.

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And honest to goodness. Your body is the most

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incredible, particularly women. Come on. Yes.

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Our bodies are superhuman. Superhuman. And if

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you treat it well, it will give you back. It's

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like a boomerang effect. If you look after it,

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it will look after you. All I want to say is,

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hello, everybody. My name is Jasmine. I'm 42

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years old and I'm in perimenopause. Hello, Jasmine.

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Oh, my girl. You're in the right circle for sure

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today. I would say 40s is when I think most of

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us start to feel a lot of. tension and um stress

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in our lives so for me what i would always recommend

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is to nourish your bodies with like proper food

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like proper proper food like no process and also

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not just the food but what you see what you read

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what you hear you know nourish that properly

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move daily right And sleep, right? Sleep deeply,

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right? I feel like we are a nation of people

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who don't have enough sleep. Yeah. So, but that's

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super, super, super important. So, yeah. Yeah,

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bring it back to being human. That's it. So,

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you know, eat well, sleep well, move well. Yep,

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totally. Be surprised at how good it feels to

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be a human being. Yes, absolutely. This is something

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that I tell myself all the time. Everything that

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I can see and touch is tangible, including how

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I look right now or a certain situation that

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I'm in. And so if it's tangible, it means it's

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subject to change, right? So it will never always

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be like that. So if I'm having a really bad time

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now or something really bad is happening. this

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too shall pass, right? So I won't always be in

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this situation. Or if I'm having, like, a great

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time, something really good, it will also pass.

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So it sort of, like, teaches me to, like, enjoy

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the moment and be in the present. So that is

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something that I'm still learning, like, to live

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by it. Yeah, but it's something I tell myself.

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I love that. Stay present, live in the now, and

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just know that everything, yeah, is temporary.

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It truly is. I would say energy wise, quality

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over quantity is my thing. So don't spread yourself

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too thin. I used to do it. Choose where you have

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to put your energy. Choose where you want to

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put your energy and put it there. And you will

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be so much happier because I was a people pleaser.

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I wanted to spread myself across whoever needed

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me. Not anymore. Now I just spend my time doing

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what I want to do with the people I want to do

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it with. Three things I would say. One is surround

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yourself with the right people that will lift

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you up because you don't have time for bullshit.

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I'm just going to call it. You just really, really

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don't have time for anything else. Cut out people

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that won't lift you. You don't need any of that.

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Number two, three key questions to ask yourself

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about anything that bothers you. Will you lose

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sleep? Will you lose money? Will it affect your

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health? The answer is no to all of it. Fuck it.

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you you really do have time for it right because

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i i just feel like we are so time starved as

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we get older and it's all i i feel like this

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is my underlying theme for this entire podcast

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which is like you know um prioritize oh and the

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third thing is um don't be afraid to prioritize

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yourself over others i think this is something

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we tend to lose ourselves trying to please others

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whether it's your partner or your boss or your

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friend but if you lose yourself then there's

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a risk you might never find yourself back. Or

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you have to go to great lengths to get yourself

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back. My mantra is I'm doing the best that I

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can given the resources that I have. Yeah. And

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that's okay. That is a formula. I mean, put that

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on a t -shirt, girl. I'm doing the best that

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I can given the resources that I have. And that's

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really the best that we can do, right? I think

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sometimes we often push ourselves to say, I need

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to do more, be more. And I get that. I get where

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that's coming from. But honestly, some days for

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me, my battery's flat. And if my battery's flat

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and I still show up doing something, that is

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100%. That is not 0%. Many people do not see

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it that way. But I think we need to live that

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way so that we're not so hard on ourselves. Yes.

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Well, for me, I feel the best at my current age,

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to be honest. Because I don't need to care about

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what people think. And I can be fully myself

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and unapologetically myself. And I don't have

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to prove to anyone my worth or who I am. And

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I'm just being very happy of who I am right now.

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So I think to be able to say, I have a mantra

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that I also teach my female clients is when you

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do your breath work, if you can't talk, you just

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have this mantra in your head. It's called I'm

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sovereign mantra. So it starts with I'm sovereign,

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I'm humble, I'm compassionate, and I'm surrendering

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to the present moment. So what I would say is

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while you're navigating perimenopause and menopause,

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see it as an opportunity to look at your health,

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your holistic health overall. Yes, absolutely.

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Get some help with your symptoms and improve

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your quality of life. But look at the bigger

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picture. Think about those long -term health

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risks that are silent, that you may not feel.

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Educate yourself about them. Get tested. Know

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what your risks are for them. And there is plenty

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you can do out there to minimize those risks.

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Look at those six pillars or six cogs of health

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and see. What is important to you right now?

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Where are you ready to make some changes that

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will be sustainable? And think about what kind

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of life would you like to have in your last 10

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years of your life? You know, women are living

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till into their 80s, 90s. We want to remain well

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and healthy and do the things we enjoy and love

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and be independent for as long as possible. So

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that would be my message to women. I think for

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me, that has to be sleep. I certainly went through

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my twenties and thirties in a job where I often

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didn't get as much sleep as I needed. And I thought

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that was fine. And in my forties, I discovered

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that it's really not fine. So I'd just say sleep,

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sleep, sleep, make it a priority because I think

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certainly for me, When I've had enough sleep,

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anything is possible. When I'm sleep deprived,

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everything becomes a struggle. And that's so

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common for so many women, I think, in midlife.

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Yeah, you got that right. We're preaching the

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same gospel. I promise you. Yeah, you don't have

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to tell me to sleep twice or three times.
