WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.759 Coming up on The 40s Formula. What do you get 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:05.240 when you mix a full -time job, a stand -up career, 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.300 and a second pregnancy at 40? I went through 00:00:08.300 --> 00:00:10.660 a phase of basically dressing like a dominatrix 00:00:10.660 --> 00:00:13.939 in leather pants, leather boots, and everything 00:00:13.939 --> 00:00:16.300 else. Imagine being pregnant and dressed like 00:00:16.300 --> 00:00:20.000 a dominatrix. That would be sweaty. The best 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.199 thing about being a parent is being able to be 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:24.359 embarrassing. I can't wait to tell my kids they're 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.359 all s***. And I did like five shows in a row 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.339 and the energy was up here. And then I did the 00:00:28.339 --> 00:00:31.079 same stuff and the energy was down. Comedy will 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.159 take you out like that. You're like, I'm the 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:34.700 best comic in the world. Oh my God, everybody 00:00:34.700 --> 00:00:36.939 hates me. Everything I'd say is the truth. I 00:00:36.939 --> 00:00:39.000 have one joke about sleeping with my Uber driver. 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:42.820 I introduced a Filipino comedian on stage and 00:00:42.820 --> 00:00:44.520 he's not from the Philippines. And it was too 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:47.880 late by then. You're from the Philippines now. 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.920 Put yourself in the spaces that you know you 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:54.600 belong. Sasha Frank is a London -born stand -up 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:57.460 comedian, actress, and podcast host based in 00:00:57.460 --> 00:00:59.619 Singapore, where she balances corporate life 00:00:59.619 --> 00:01:02.979 by day and the comedy mic by night. Known for 00:01:02.979 --> 00:01:06.040 her sharp wit and unfiltered honesty, Sasha uses 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.680 humor to explore the chaos of motherhood, cultural 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:12.340 identity, single parenting, and now pregnancy 00:01:12.340 --> 00:01:16.280 at 40. She's a proud mom, a newlywed, and a rising 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.840 voice in Singapore's comedy scene, proving that 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:22.409 reinvention can be hilarious. healing, and completely 00:01:22.409 --> 00:01:47.329 unscripted. and winner of the 2025 Asia Podcast 00:01:47.329 --> 00:01:49.890 Awards in the Best Health and Wellness Podcast 00:01:49.890 --> 00:01:53.049 category. The 40s Formula is your no -fluff, 00:01:53.109 --> 00:01:56.510 science meets real -life guide to thriving in 00:01:56.510 --> 00:02:01.310 your 40s. What do you get when you mix a full 00:02:01.310 --> 00:02:04.489 -time job, a stand -up career, and a second pregnancy 00:02:04.489 --> 00:02:08.340 at 40? You get Sasha Frank. Today's guest who 00:02:08.340 --> 00:02:10.500 reminds us that reinvention doesn't always look 00:02:10.500 --> 00:02:12.599 polished. And sometimes it looks like telling 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:14.939 jokes in a dive bar while Googling geriatric 00:02:14.939 --> 00:02:18.000 pregnancy symptoms backstage. In this episode, 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:19.879 we're talking about what it means to be funny 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.060 across gender, culture, and life stage, and why 00:02:23.060 --> 00:02:25.759 your 40s are the perfect time to stop performing 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:28.719 for everyone else and say what you really mean. 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.460 Because sometimes the most powerful punchline 00:02:31.460 --> 00:02:33.990 is just telling the truth. And if you found this 00:02:33.990 --> 00:02:36.129 episode gave you a chuckle or inspired you to 00:02:36.129 --> 00:02:38.969 take a chance, please subscribe, review and share 00:02:38.969 --> 00:02:41.509 it with a friend. Welcome, Sasha. Thank you so 00:02:41.509 --> 00:02:43.430 much for being with us. Thank you for having 00:02:43.430 --> 00:02:46.370 me, ladies. OK, so you are a nine to five or 00:02:46.370 --> 00:02:48.870 by day like you have a gig as it were. You're 00:02:48.870 --> 00:02:52.270 a comic by night. You are a mom. You are also 00:02:52.270 --> 00:02:55.129 about to be a mom again. Yes. When do you sleep? 00:02:55.349 --> 00:02:57.990 See, it's so funny you ask me that because I 00:02:57.990 --> 00:03:01.550 feel like all I do is sleep right now. I sleep. 00:03:02.450 --> 00:03:05.949 Well, I mean, I think I always ran on like, not 00:03:05.949 --> 00:03:09.830 little sleep, but high energy. Okay. But I just 00:03:09.830 --> 00:03:12.770 seem to have now fitted into my day a heck of 00:03:12.770 --> 00:03:15.610 a lot of sleep, in fact, which I think is being 00:03:15.610 --> 00:03:19.330 pregnant at 40. But yeah, it's a busy life and 00:03:19.330 --> 00:03:21.669 it's very strange now to take a step back and 00:03:21.669 --> 00:03:24.449 have to reel some things in. Yeah, well, that's 00:03:24.449 --> 00:03:26.389 my thing is like, okay, so you hear about all 00:03:26.389 --> 00:03:28.090 these like corporate people. I have a side gig 00:03:28.090 --> 00:03:30.830 and it's like I make jewelry or whatever it is. 00:03:30.909 --> 00:03:32.969 The crochet stuff. The crochet stuff. You know, 00:03:32.990 --> 00:03:37.289 I do baking, right? Your side gig is big. So 00:03:37.289 --> 00:03:39.889 yes and no. Okay, the great thing about it is 00:03:39.889 --> 00:03:42.150 I can pick and choose how big it is. Like most 00:03:42.150 --> 00:03:44.409 side gigs, I think. You know, it's no different 00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:47.840 in some ways to any other hobby. you get out 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:51.120 what you put in. So, you know, I had a really 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.500 big show a week before last, last week, in fact. 00:03:54.580 --> 00:03:56.740 And leading up to that, I was getting so much 00:03:56.740 --> 00:03:58.800 stage time. I was doing shows every night, sometimes 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.780 more than one at the weekends. And now I'm not 00:04:01.780 --> 00:04:03.960 leading up to a big show. I'm kind of able to 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.039 take my foot off the accelerator a little bit, 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.479 chill out. um nonetheless fitted in a heck of 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:11.539 a lot of naps either way yeah yeah important 00:04:11.539 --> 00:04:14.520 again tips for pregnancy in your 40 heck of a 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.500 lot of naps okay that's just the realness luckily 00:04:17.500 --> 00:04:19.360 i will say you have the advantage that your daughter 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:22.779 is a bit older aka not a toddler yes because 00:04:22.779 --> 00:04:25.100 you did it with little with little littles god 00:04:25.100 --> 00:04:28.519 why i don't know how because even just parenting 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.019 a 12 year old who needs very little from me she 00:04:31.019 --> 00:04:34.839 wants less than she even needs she would be glad 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.430 if i left her the heck alone um even that it's 00:04:38.430 --> 00:04:40.110 still you still have to be present and things 00:04:40.110 --> 00:04:42.810 like that so it's definitely a challenge but 00:04:42.810 --> 00:04:45.050 I do not know how you or anybody that did it 00:04:45.050 --> 00:04:47.550 with little kids did it yeah I mean to be honest 00:04:47.550 --> 00:04:51.350 I had a two -year -old and then I had twins and 00:04:51.350 --> 00:04:54.910 I just thought fucking hell like oh my gosh I 00:04:54.910 --> 00:04:57.069 honestly I cried because I just thought I don't 00:04:57.069 --> 00:04:58.449 know how I'm gonna do this my first one was hard 00:04:58.449 --> 00:05:00.410 enough how the fuck am I going to get through 00:05:00.410 --> 00:05:02.569 with twins? But I got through and it's so much 00:05:02.569 --> 00:05:04.569 easier now. And here we are, seven years old. 00:05:04.569 --> 00:05:08.029 Yeah, we just, we blacked that all out and arrived 00:05:08.029 --> 00:05:10.990 at where we are today. Yeah, so, you know. I 00:05:10.990 --> 00:05:12.750 actually have a question for you. Sure. How do 00:05:12.750 --> 00:05:14.889 you get into comedy? Like, how does that even 00:05:14.889 --> 00:05:17.149 become a thing? Good call. So I always wanted 00:05:17.149 --> 00:05:19.069 to do it, right? I always, it was just been a 00:05:19.069 --> 00:05:21.810 thing. I grew up in the UK, very, you know, there's 00:05:21.810 --> 00:05:23.509 a lot of comedy, particularly around the 80s 00:05:23.509 --> 00:05:26.209 and 90s in the UK. Always wanted to do it and 00:05:26.209 --> 00:05:29.980 never did it. I actually went to... university 00:05:29.980 --> 00:05:32.980 to study acting because they had part of the 00:05:32.980 --> 00:05:36.120 syllabus on comedy writing then I can't remember 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:37.620 because it was a thousand years ago something 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:40.459 changed the professor left whatever and it was 00:05:40.459 --> 00:05:42.720 a lot of like Shakespeare and finding your inner 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.360 tree and stuff and that was not for me and I 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.839 just I just wanted to like be on TV and be funny 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:50.660 I didn't really want to do any more than that 00:05:50.660 --> 00:05:54.959 and I changed courses went on to do history ended 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.639 up in the corporate world and then never got 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.220 into comedy always loved it got divorced. It's 00:06:00.220 --> 00:06:02.060 like the age old story, got divorced. But it 00:06:02.060 --> 00:06:03.800 wasn't that that was the trigger. It was then 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.899 another breakup. And I was in the UK and I was 00:06:06.899 --> 00:06:08.860 like, what am I going to do when I get back? 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.120 I was living in Singapore, gone back to like 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.420 lick my wounds in the UK because I was so sad. 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:15.579 I was like, what am I going to do when I get 00:06:15.579 --> 00:06:18.500 back to Singapore to focus my mind on something 00:06:18.500 --> 00:06:21.040 else? I was like, maybe this is my moment to 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.699 do stand up. And I went to a gig as a guy called 00:06:23.699 --> 00:06:25.939 Ratchman Blake. He comes to Singapore quite a 00:06:25.939 --> 00:06:29.649 lot. And he I went to see his gig and he brought 00:06:29.649 --> 00:06:32.810 a local comic on stage and I went up to him after 00:06:32.810 --> 00:06:36.189 and was like could I please come on stage at 00:06:36.189 --> 00:06:38.370 your next gig because he was doing a series over 00:06:38.370 --> 00:06:41.689 a few weeks like the audacity and not just that 00:06:41.689 --> 00:06:44.250 but the ridiculousness that he said yes he's 00:06:44.250 --> 00:06:46.990 like yeah come back in like two weeks and do 00:06:46.990 --> 00:06:49.670 it and I did it and I was hooked and I remain 00:06:49.670 --> 00:06:52.170 hooked I'm absolutely addicted so you were like 00:06:52.170 --> 00:06:54.490 a cold call comic you just walked up to that 00:06:54.490 --> 00:06:57.319 dude yeah Well, you don't ask, you don't get. 00:06:57.420 --> 00:07:00.879 It was bizarre in retrospect. Did you give him 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:02.819 a joke? Like, did you come on and like, you know, 00:07:02.819 --> 00:07:05.740 make him a little... I don't think I did anything. 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.860 I think I was just like... Well, I've committed, 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:12.160 so I have to do it. So I did it. But it was, 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.560 in retrospect, a massive chance that he took 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.920 because he had a lot of ticket holders that are 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:20.379 paid. So thanks to him for giving me that chance. 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:22.500 And has it been an ever since thing? So literally 00:07:22.500 --> 00:07:24.519 ever since that you have been doing comedy? Ever 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.079 since. Then I found the local open mic scene. 00:07:27.220 --> 00:07:29.459 Then you go from there to the bigger shows and 00:07:29.459 --> 00:07:31.579 then to the international festivals and international 00:07:31.579 --> 00:07:34.939 shows, etc. So it's just like grown. I mean, 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.839 you have to put the work in. And I just, I clearly 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.120 just love the sound of my own voice, as my mother 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.899 would say about me. Again, I'm listening to the 00:07:43.899 --> 00:07:47.699 chorus of the UK voices around me. So yeah, that's 00:07:47.699 --> 00:07:50.879 how it happened. So when I saw you last. I was 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.860 very pregnant. If you remember, very pregnant. 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:56.259 In fact, a fun fact, it was, I think the gig 00:07:56.259 --> 00:07:58.319 was like February 8th and I gave birth on February 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.839 21st. I was like, it was so, I remember sitting 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.360 on that stool and like having to like readjust 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.279 and like I stood for a bit and I was like, God, 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:09.180 this is life. But. At that gig, I remember you 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:10.920 were the only female comic. Everyone else was 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:14.939 male. Is the stereotype true that females in 00:08:14.939 --> 00:08:18.439 comedy are obviously far fewer and the unfortunate 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.759 stereotype less funny? And what is it like building 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:23.899 your voice in an industry that is not necessarily 00:08:23.899 --> 00:08:28.089 welcoming of the females? So it's a... Difficult 00:08:28.089 --> 00:08:30.149 one to answer because we have here in Singapore 00:08:30.149 --> 00:08:33.350 a great female comedy scene. And it tends to 00:08:33.350 --> 00:08:37.169 be female and LGBTQ plus kind of on the same 00:08:37.169 --> 00:08:39.610 kind of scene. And it's amazing. The best audience 00:08:39.610 --> 00:08:42.370 is so supportive. So, you know, if you go to 00:08:42.370 --> 00:08:44.210 those shows, that's where you find all these 00:08:44.210 --> 00:08:47.830 wonderful female comics. What is harder is infiltrating 00:08:47.830 --> 00:08:51.090 that more male based side of things, which is, 00:08:51.129 --> 00:08:54.370 I suppose, the more mainstream. And for me, I 00:08:54.370 --> 00:08:56.429 don't. know if it was necessarily a conscious 00:08:56.429 --> 00:08:58.889 choice but I wanted to be everywhere I was like 00:08:58.889 --> 00:09:01.090 okay I'm gonna do the the female gigs which I 00:09:01.090 --> 00:09:03.629 still do and I love them um sorry that's probably 00:09:03.629 --> 00:09:06.090 a horrible way to phrase it you know what I mean 00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:08.429 I'm gonna do the women's shows but I also wanted 00:09:08.429 --> 00:09:11.169 to be part of as I say the more mainstream club 00:09:11.169 --> 00:09:14.350 scene so and I put myself in spaces where I don't 00:09:14.350 --> 00:09:16.370 know I don't want to say I wasn't welcome because 00:09:16.370 --> 00:09:18.889 these guys are all my friends now but I wasn't 00:09:19.690 --> 00:09:21.950 I didn't fit in, you know, and I used to go do 00:09:21.950 --> 00:09:25.710 all the hangs, all the after show drinks and 00:09:25.710 --> 00:09:27.789 things like that. And they used to be, I'm sure, 00:09:27.809 --> 00:09:30.029 think, what is this lady doing? I was older for 00:09:30.029 --> 00:09:33.929 the most part, you know, expat, a woman. And, 00:09:33.990 --> 00:09:35.929 you know, I've just kept pushing and pushing 00:09:35.929 --> 00:09:38.309 because I really wanted to be in all those spaces. 00:09:38.629 --> 00:09:40.330 And I think that's a really important message. 00:09:40.549 --> 00:09:43.470 Put yourself in the spaces that you know you 00:09:43.470 --> 00:09:45.610 belong. Don't wait for somebody to invite you. 00:09:45.750 --> 00:09:48.279 Well, this was my thing where I was like. I don't 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:51.299 want to be there and be resented and feel like, 00:09:51.340 --> 00:09:53.220 yeah, maybe I don't really deserve to be here. 00:09:53.340 --> 00:09:55.799 If I, and I hope I'm not resented. I really hope, 00:09:55.820 --> 00:09:58.039 and I love the guys that I work with. But if 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.240 there is ever that feeling, I want to feel like, 00:10:00.259 --> 00:10:02.960 no, I deserve this. I worked for this and I really 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:05.500 have put in the hours. And, you know, there are 00:10:05.500 --> 00:10:07.779 times when I step back from comedy for various 00:10:07.779 --> 00:10:09.779 life reasons and I'm not putting in the hours. 00:10:09.860 --> 00:10:11.840 And then those spots should go to other people. 00:10:11.980 --> 00:10:13.779 You know, I don't expect to be able to show up 00:10:13.779 --> 00:10:15.860 after three months and be like, hey, so I'm back. 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.820 So being in Singapore, Being female and being 00:10:18.820 --> 00:10:22.299 expat, do people get your jokes here? Because 00:10:22.299 --> 00:10:25.200 British humour is really different, you know? 00:10:26.090 --> 00:10:27.590 I mean, I don't know, do Americans get British 00:10:27.590 --> 00:10:29.309 humour? I mean, I think you're the least American 00:10:29.309 --> 00:10:31.950 American I know. Oh, I think I'm proud of that. 00:10:32.750 --> 00:10:35.250 Yeah, let's go with that. Yes, thank you. But, 00:10:35.250 --> 00:10:37.090 you know, British humour is a bit different, 00:10:37.169 --> 00:10:39.649 you know, so do people get it here? I think so. 00:10:39.710 --> 00:10:41.970 I think I probably had to subconsciously switch 00:10:41.970 --> 00:10:44.529 up my humour without realising I've done it, 00:10:44.549 --> 00:10:47.429 but it's very international here, which is great. 00:10:47.570 --> 00:10:50.980 You know, I find... sometimes people come from 00:10:50.980 --> 00:10:53.399 overseas they go on stage they haven't adapted 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.860 at all from what they would do at home yeah so 00:10:55.860 --> 00:10:58.220 that's kind of you know it gets a little bit 00:10:58.220 --> 00:11:00.100 trickier for the audience so you know there is 00:11:00.100 --> 00:11:02.960 a specific way to talk to audiences in all different 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:04.899 places around the world i mean australia those 00:11:04.899 --> 00:11:07.759 are super tough audiences um singapore's less 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.759 hard for me i've been here nearly a decade my 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.740 husband's singaporean like it's i'm it's a bit 00:11:11.740 --> 00:11:14.399 more familiar yeah I'm seeing Pete Davidson tonight 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:17.080 over at the Star Vista. Fantastic. And I'm wondering 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.720 how he's going to be received because I feel 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:22.960 like his comedy is pretty American. I actually 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.279 don't know who he is. Do you want to tell you 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:26.700 a funny story? Tell me the story, girl. You can 00:11:26.700 --> 00:11:28.940 maybe take this out if you need to. I was offered 00:11:28.940 --> 00:11:31.240 a ticket to it, which was very nice, but I had 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:32.940 to turn it down because I couldn't be sure if 00:11:32.940 --> 00:11:35.480 it was an aisle seat. And being pregnant, I get 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:38.299 up and go to the bathroom so often. I wish you 00:11:38.299 --> 00:11:39.500 would have told me. I would have booked you an 00:11:39.500 --> 00:11:41.840 aisle seat. I booked you a long million years 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.629 ago. yeah when I found out about it but that's 00:11:44.629 --> 00:11:46.649 I thought you had a Pete Davidson story for us 00:11:46.649 --> 00:11:49.629 and I was like oh did you date him I wish big 00:11:49.629 --> 00:11:52.029 fan but no that's so yeah so I will miss it but 00:11:52.029 --> 00:11:55.889 it's well hope he doesn't bomb wish the best 00:11:55.889 --> 00:11:59.029 for that dude but speaking of bombing can you 00:11:59.029 --> 00:12:01.789 share I know this is probably every comedian's 00:12:01.789 --> 00:12:03.110 least favorite question it's like tell us about 00:12:03.110 --> 00:12:06.500 the time you sucked the most but can you so here's 00:12:06.500 --> 00:12:08.720 the thing so two examples the first is I did 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.700 do a show that is run by a local comic here with 00:12:11.700 --> 00:12:13.919 a very local audience and even though I've been 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.259 doing comedy in Singapore my whole career for 00:12:17.259 --> 00:12:20.080 some reason it didn't hit. I think I was on early 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:23.600 in the night and I just knew nothing I said was 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:25.360 hitting. And I actually had an audience member 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:28.159 message me after and say, hey, I saw you at this 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:29.879 show. I just want to know, you actually didn't 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.240 bomb as much as you thought you did. I think 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.779 people were maybe a bit intimidated by you or 00:12:35.779 --> 00:12:38.759 they didn't get your accent or something. That's 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:41.080 really nice of that person to do that. And it 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.019 was reasonably recent, so it wasn't that early 00:12:43.019 --> 00:12:47.220 in my career. However, by the same token, People 00:12:47.220 --> 00:12:49.019 bomb all the time. You can be the best comic 00:12:49.019 --> 00:12:52.059 ever. I have been, as I said, practicing for 00:12:52.059 --> 00:12:54.419 this show that I was doing last week and doing 00:12:54.419 --> 00:12:57.340 a lot of shows and a lot of the same material 00:12:57.340 --> 00:12:59.639 that was tweaking and tweaking. And I did like 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:01.919 five shows in a row and the energy was up here 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:04.139 and then I did the same stuff and the energy 00:13:04.139 --> 00:13:07.019 was down. Comedy will take you out like that. 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.220 You're like, I'm the best comic in the world. 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.600 Oh my God, everybody hates me. So Amanda, you 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:13.059 know how I've been on this journey about improving 00:13:13.059 --> 00:13:14.879 my sleep? Oh, you have been obsessed about it 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:18.149 lately. Well, I have found something that has 00:13:18.149 --> 00:13:22.230 been incredible. Cozy earth bed sheets. 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And did you know you can get your biggest 00:13:53.009 --> 00:13:58.549 ever discount, 41 % if you use code TFF today. 00:13:58.649 --> 00:14:01.470 So head over to CozyEarth .com and use that code 00:14:01.470 --> 00:14:04.799 TFF today. How does it make you feel then, like, 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:06.620 in that situation? Like, you know, you've gone 00:14:06.620 --> 00:14:09.220 from everyone's laughing, energy's great, and 00:14:09.220 --> 00:14:10.659 then to suddenly bombing, and then you're like, 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.519 oh, fuck. Like, how does that affect your confidence? 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.080 Yeah, how do you bounce back from that? Yeah. 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.879 So there's a really well -known comic here, Rishi 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:20.820 Budhrani, who's very famous here, and he says 00:14:20.820 --> 00:14:23.139 you have the 11 o 'clock rule. If you did... 00:14:23.649 --> 00:14:26.370 great you have until 11 o 'clock the next day 00:14:26.370 --> 00:14:28.509 to feel amazing about yourself and if you did 00:14:28.509 --> 00:14:31.789 badly you have until 11 o 'clock to let feel 00:14:31.789 --> 00:14:34.070 crap and then let it go so i try and channel 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:36.610 that that is such a good rule for life by the 00:14:36.610 --> 00:14:38.690 way yeah i think about this in terms of weight 00:14:38.690 --> 00:14:40.250 lifting like i do everything in terms of weight 00:14:40.250 --> 00:14:42.690 lifting and it's like you have a terrible lift 00:14:42.690 --> 00:14:45.389 you feel like a sack of shit you didn't hit any 00:14:45.389 --> 00:14:47.330 you know anything close to your normal and you're 00:14:47.330 --> 00:14:50.360 like i suck Let it go by 11. Let it go by 11. 00:14:50.379 --> 00:14:52.200 We can do that with food as well. You know, like 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.460 you ate something crap. Don't worry about it. 00:14:54.620 --> 00:14:58.059 It's by tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, darn it. I 00:14:58.059 --> 00:14:59.700 wish I hadn't eaten that. And then beep, beep, 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.299 beep, beep, beep. Reset. It's such a good motto. 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.299 I love it. Yeah. That is such a great motto. 00:15:04.700 --> 00:15:08.000 Okay. So you have bombed. I have. You were generous 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.139 to share that with us. Have you ever said something 00:15:10.139 --> 00:15:12.620 on stage that made the audience uncomfortable? 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.120 Like you knew that they were like bristling from 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.519 it. I would say no. However, I think comedy is 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:20.259 supposed to be a bit uncomfortable. I think it 00:15:20.259 --> 00:15:23.759 is. Now that said, I'm at a disadvantage, if 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:25.480 you want to call it that, as a guest in this 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:28.220 country where I will not push those limits because 00:15:28.220 --> 00:15:30.259 I've seen comics do it and I kind of love to 00:15:30.259 --> 00:15:32.539 see comics do it. And I've watched the audience 00:15:32.539 --> 00:15:35.370 go like this. it's always the comedians laughing 00:15:35.370 --> 00:15:37.330 their heads off and the audience are like, whoa. 00:15:38.730 --> 00:15:41.370 So I actually wish I had a bit more liberty to 00:15:41.370 --> 00:15:44.210 make people feel uncomfortable, but I don't push 00:15:44.210 --> 00:15:46.490 it. Have you ever done comedy and stand up in 00:15:46.490 --> 00:15:48.950 the UK? Yeah, I have. And so would you do then 00:15:48.950 --> 00:15:51.269 different jokes and like really sort of push 00:15:51.269 --> 00:15:53.110 the boundaries there a bit more than you do here? 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.899 I think, yes, again, more on a subconscious level. 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.539 I'm a bit looser. I'm not thinking so much about 00:15:59.539 --> 00:16:01.639 it. But when I sit in an audience in the UK, 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:04.500 I notice it. I'm like, oh, wow, this is it just 00:16:04.500 --> 00:16:09.240 feels different. It feels more. maybe more daring 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.440 I think and that's not to say we don't have amazing 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.399 daring comedians here but in the UK it's just 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:16.419 more established and I also think people are 00:16:16.419 --> 00:16:18.059 just a bit more straight talkers like they'll 00:16:18.059 --> 00:16:21.019 just say it and I think also like Amanda said 00:16:21.019 --> 00:16:22.919 at the start you know it is about telling the 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.639 truth but it's like how far can you push it absolutely 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:29.320 how like how far have you pushed it everything 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.480 i'd say is the truth apart i have one joke about 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:36.019 sleeping with my uber driver i never did but 00:16:36.019 --> 00:16:38.700 it comes from truth from being drunk in a taxi 00:16:38.700 --> 00:16:41.200 in the uk and apparently the uber driver ended 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.799 up with my phone number to be the next day i 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.580 don't even remember giving so it kind of comes 00:16:47.580 --> 00:16:49.519 from somewhere but it's not true but everything 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:53.750 else i do it comes really from truth But, you 00:16:53.750 --> 00:16:55.830 know, again, I try to I don't push the boundaries 00:16:55.830 --> 00:16:58.169 too much because I am a guest here and I'm also 00:16:58.169 --> 00:17:00.509 a mom and I have a corporate job. So there's 00:17:00.509 --> 00:17:02.549 a lot of things that keep me very aware of what 00:17:02.549 --> 00:17:06.490 I say. How much mom humor, marriage humor do 00:17:06.490 --> 00:17:08.190 you use? Like how much do you use your family 00:17:08.190 --> 00:17:11.509 in your in your gig? A lot. So I I used to do 00:17:11.509 --> 00:17:14.289 pretty much a lot of dating stuff. My whole thing 00:17:14.289 --> 00:17:17.289 was single mom dating. And then when I got asked 00:17:17.289 --> 00:17:19.230 to headline this show last week, I was like, 00:17:19.250 --> 00:17:21.190 well, I haven't had enough time to write pregnancy 00:17:21.190 --> 00:17:23.809 stuff, so I can't do that. What on earth am I 00:17:23.809 --> 00:17:25.829 going to say? And I was like, no, but wait, I've 00:17:25.829 --> 00:17:28.430 got, you know, I've been a mum for years. You 00:17:28.430 --> 00:17:29.869 know, that hasn't changed. I've got all the mum 00:17:29.869 --> 00:17:31.809 stuff. I've been a daughter. I've got stuff about 00:17:31.809 --> 00:17:34.849 my mum. Sorry, mum, if you see this. So actually 00:17:34.849 --> 00:17:38.160 it turned out I had plenty. Because I'm still 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.339 the same person. Yeah. What does your daughter 00:17:40.339 --> 00:17:42.119 think then of your jokes? Like, does she think, 00:17:42.299 --> 00:17:45.079 oh, fucking hell, mum goes again. Obviously, 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.279 she's 12, so she's not saying fucking hell. Or 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:50.880 she might be. She might be. Not to my face. Yeah, 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.380 not to my face. She kind of likes it, I think. 00:17:53.420 --> 00:17:55.240 I say to her sometimes, do you wish you had a 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.599 normal mummy? But I don't think she does. She's 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.599 funny. So she does make it into my jokes. And 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.019 I usually tell her what the jokes are that she 00:18:03.019 --> 00:18:05.160 makes it into. Does she find them funny? Yes, 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:07.890 she does. That's true. with kindness. There's 00:18:07.890 --> 00:18:10.549 a series of books by one of the former writers 00:18:10.549 --> 00:18:11.970 from The Simpsons, and I can't remember which 00:18:11.970 --> 00:18:15.210 writer, so apologies, but it's called, the series 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:18.190 is My Mom is a Whatever, and insert weird, so 00:18:18.190 --> 00:18:20.529 My Mom is a Mermaid. And my dad is a unicorn. 00:18:20.690 --> 00:18:22.990 These are the two that my kids love. And really, 00:18:23.089 --> 00:18:24.829 I think it's a story about exactly what you're 00:18:24.829 --> 00:18:27.069 talking about. It's about, you know, my mom is 00:18:27.069 --> 00:18:30.630 in an unexpected profession. My dad is potentially, 00:18:30.890 --> 00:18:33.109 you know, a gay parent. And like, what is that? 00:18:33.109 --> 00:18:36.009 You know, like, what is that? How kids can relate 00:18:36.009 --> 00:18:39.089 to. I mean, Tyler, there's something you need 00:18:39.089 --> 00:18:41.640 to know. But yeah, it's. It's interesting because 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.319 I think there is it is different to have a parent 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:48.359 that has a very nontraditional side gig or main 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.980 gig, by the way. Yeah. In terms of which which 00:18:51.980 --> 00:18:54.339 leads me to kind of a crazy question is like, 00:18:54.339 --> 00:18:58.349 how has your comedy. evolved as your personal 00:18:58.349 --> 00:19:01.430 life has changed quite a bit I mean it as I said 00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:04.150 like I not as much as I thought it would I guess 00:19:04.150 --> 00:19:06.450 and maybe that's on me for not putting in as 00:19:06.450 --> 00:19:09.210 much into new writing I couldn't write about 00:19:09.210 --> 00:19:11.150 pregnancy because I was superstitious right when 00:19:11.150 --> 00:19:12.970 I was at the beginning of my pregnancy I didn't 00:19:12.970 --> 00:19:15.849 want to go on stage and talk about it so I was 00:19:15.849 --> 00:19:18.329 like what am I going to talk about on stage but 00:19:18.329 --> 00:19:20.430 it was taking the stuff that I talked about before 00:19:20.430 --> 00:19:23.960 that was dating and single mothering and updating 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:25.980 it all to how does that look from the perspective 00:19:25.980 --> 00:19:29.259 of someone that's now married yeah you know i 00:19:29.259 --> 00:19:31.579 talk about um you know i used to talk about living 00:19:31.579 --> 00:19:34.900 with a housemate and spoiler alert the housemate 00:19:34.900 --> 00:19:37.000 is my daughter now i talk about my husband having 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.980 to move in with me and my housemate so you know 00:19:39.980 --> 00:19:42.460 like everything just gets a bit more updated 00:19:42.460 --> 00:19:46.480 yeah Yeah, so it does evolve with me for sure. 00:19:46.539 --> 00:19:49.420 It's got cleaner, my comedy. As I've stepped 00:19:49.420 --> 00:19:53.079 out of the Tinder dating world, I would say it's 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.460 got cleaner. If your kids wanted to be comedians, 00:19:56.539 --> 00:19:58.859 as their main gig, so they were like, listen, 00:19:58.940 --> 00:20:00.640 this is what I'm going for, what would you say? 00:20:01.740 --> 00:20:07.099 I mean, I would support it. I think I would be 00:20:07.099 --> 00:20:10.230 worried for them. Because it is a tough gig and, 00:20:10.289 --> 00:20:12.650 you know, it's very few people make it big. I 00:20:12.650 --> 00:20:15.670 would suggest they did it on the side, you know. 00:20:16.029 --> 00:20:18.230 But who am I to, you know, I wish I'd done it 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:20.430 full time earlier. And the fact that, again, 00:20:20.509 --> 00:20:22.569 you said you wanted to be in comedy kind of forever. 00:20:22.710 --> 00:20:23.849 Like it's something that you thought about even 00:20:23.849 --> 00:20:26.170 before college. And then once you had the chance, 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:29.019 you jumped at it. How about women who feel like 00:20:29.019 --> 00:20:32.339 this, I've missed the chance for this type of 00:20:32.339 --> 00:20:34.500 thing? Because you mentioned you're older in 00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:36.839 the group that you kind of run with. Again, only 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.880 female, expat female, but just the age thing 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.200 alone where they're like, oh, I always wanted 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:44.220 to do this, but now I'm too old. What advice 00:20:44.220 --> 00:20:46.700 would you give those women? You just simply aren't. 00:20:46.700 --> 00:20:49.599 I mean, there is no boundaries to these things 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:51.000 unless it's something you're going to do that 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.200 has an actual age limit attached. There's no 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:55.859 bad time to get into it. And if anything, for 00:20:55.859 --> 00:20:58.339 comedy particularly, you're older, you're wiser. 00:20:58.339 --> 00:21:00.519 That's probably not just comedy, right? For life, 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.160 you're older, you're wiser, you have eons more 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.640 experience. This is the time. This is the time 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.420 to do it. Not, you know, not the opposite. Yeah. 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:10.319 And if I may offer, I feel that way about pregnancy. 00:21:10.940 --> 00:21:13.759 Like, thank God I wasn't pregnant younger than 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.940 I was. Things would not have been figured out 00:21:16.940 --> 00:21:19.380 so well. There's definitely a big difference 00:21:19.380 --> 00:21:22.539 to me. I was 27, 28 when I was pregnant last 00:21:22.539 --> 00:21:25.039 time. And 40 this time is definitely different. 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:26.920 Yeah. What are the differences that you know? 00:21:26.940 --> 00:21:28.960 I mean, obviously being older, but like meaning 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:30.519 literally like what are the specific differences? 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.319 I mean, I do think a lot of pregnancy symptoms 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.519 are just an extension of being older. You know, 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:37.000 all the things that come with being older, the 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.599 aches, the pains, the digestive problems. It's 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:43.779 just that. Amplified. Yes. I think I am mentally 00:21:43.779 --> 00:21:47.019 much more stable than I was. I mean, I had horrible 00:21:47.019 --> 00:21:49.920 mental health in my first pregnancy. Awful. And 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:52.730 this time around, I mean. The first trimester, 00:21:52.750 --> 00:21:54.910 I was a horrid human being, as my husband would 00:21:54.910 --> 00:21:58.170 tell you. As most people are. But my mental health 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:01.190 in general is great and I'm happy and I'm calmer. 00:22:01.250 --> 00:22:05.470 I can enjoy it more. So I would say doing it 00:22:05.470 --> 00:22:08.150 at 40 is easier in some ways, except energy wise. 00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:11.609 Yeah. Hence the naps. All the naps. Hence the 00:22:11.609 --> 00:22:14.950 many naps. So were you a funny kid growing up? 00:22:15.390 --> 00:22:19.069 So one of the things I feel like tends to happen 00:22:19.069 --> 00:22:22.549 with some people when they're, funny is actually 00:22:22.549 --> 00:22:24.569 they they're kind of almost hiding something 00:22:24.569 --> 00:22:26.630 they're hiding behind something do you feel like 00:22:26.630 --> 00:22:30.920 that was you or you I honestly just think I like 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.640 telling jokes and maybe I've got some deep -rooted 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:35.799 stuff that I really need to see a therapist about 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.359 but it's really deep -rooted because you don't 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:42.559 even know yeah I was just yeah I was a funny 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:44.880 kid I always acted I always loved doing anything 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.599 comedic when I was doing acting I did that from 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.299 like two years old so it's always been in me 00:22:50.299 --> 00:22:53.539 but I don't necessarily think it comes from trauma 00:22:54.269 --> 00:22:56.549 all the time although I say that and then I look 00:22:56.549 --> 00:22:58.430 at my jokes I'm like oh there's some trauma in 00:22:58.430 --> 00:23:02.130 there a little dash of trauma just to keep it 00:23:02.130 --> 00:23:03.970 interesting but you know it makes it a bit funny 00:23:03.970 --> 00:23:05.890 yeah we all have trauma we all just challenge 00:23:05.890 --> 00:23:09.160 it we channel it different ways yeah You mentioned 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:11.059 that energy and kind of symptoms are two of the 00:23:11.059 --> 00:23:12.960 big challenges to being pregnant in your 40s. 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:14.579 And I think that's actually a really great segue 00:23:14.579 --> 00:23:16.460 into one of our favorite segments of the week, 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.400 which is Fuel Your 40s featuring The Meat Club. 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:21.539 So our sponsors, The Meat Club, have given us 00:23:21.539 --> 00:23:24.079 a question for you. And it's basically, what 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:27.920 is your pre -show protein forward meal that helps 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.000 sustain your energy as a comic while pregnant? 00:23:31.779 --> 00:23:34.019 Well, pregnant, so I'm eating a lot of eggs, 00:23:34.099 --> 00:23:35.980 which is not really meat forward. Yeah, protein 00:23:35.980 --> 00:23:37.500 forward though, for sure. Protein forward, but 00:23:37.500 --> 00:23:41.319 yeah, a lot of eggs, I would say. You know, I 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.140 was prior to pregnancy eating a lot of chicken 00:23:44.140 --> 00:23:47.240 breast. Now I eat chicken breast, but it's 900 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:49.799 different things with it. But yeah, I'm starting 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.400 to eat a lot of beef in my house at the moment, 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.150 which is... which is good because, you know, 00:23:55.150 --> 00:23:57.490 the more protein, the more full. And I cannot 00:23:57.490 --> 00:24:00.529 be hungry on stage. Can you imagine your stomach 00:24:00.529 --> 00:24:01.990 growling? Because it happens to us. We used to 00:24:01.990 --> 00:24:04.490 record in the studio and then you hear this like 00:24:04.490 --> 00:24:07.670 in the background. Yeah, it is really, it's really 00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:09.869 distracting. And so definitely again, chicken, 00:24:10.049 --> 00:24:12.430 eggs, beef, you can get it all at the meat club 00:24:12.430 --> 00:24:15.789 with our code TFF20 for $20 off. So all great 00:24:15.789 --> 00:24:19.309 tips. What is a universal truth about motherhood? 00:24:19.660 --> 00:24:21.680 that you think could be its own stand -up special. 00:24:21.819 --> 00:24:24.259 Like, this is something we all get. I think, 00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:27.220 and maybe it will come for you a bit later, and 00:24:27.220 --> 00:24:28.640 Jasmine, I don't know how old your kids are. 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:32.140 Ten and... Oh, so you'll get this. The best thing 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:34.480 about being a parent is being able to be embarrassing. 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.259 Yes. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait and you know 00:24:37.259 --> 00:24:40.680 it. The best. It's the most fun. And I mean, 00:24:40.700 --> 00:24:42.359 at 12, it's great because she's still got this 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.339 constant look of annoyance. And yeah, that's 00:24:45.339 --> 00:24:48.440 my favorite thing to do. Oh, I really, I always 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.099 say that. I have said this on air and I'll say 00:24:50.099 --> 00:24:51.539 it. And one day you can play this back for me. 00:24:51.740 --> 00:24:54.140 I cannot wait for my kids to be preteens and 00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:57.359 teens because I really, that's my time to shine. 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:01.480 That's when my sarcasm and my absolute lack of 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:03.460 boundaries around embarrassment will just come 00:25:03.460 --> 00:25:05.910 to a... beautiful fruition and i can't wait to 00:25:05.910 --> 00:25:08.309 tell my kids they're assholes yeah like no joke 00:25:08.309 --> 00:25:10.269 i cannot like show them how dumb their decisions 00:25:10.269 --> 00:25:14.250 are yeah so great yesterday actually i got burnt 00:25:14.250 --> 00:25:17.089 by my seven -year -old yesterday he was having 00:25:17.089 --> 00:25:21.490 a piano lesson and um i walked in and the teacher 00:25:21.490 --> 00:25:22.809 was like oh do you want to just sit here for 00:25:22.809 --> 00:25:24.529 his performance kind of make him feel like you 00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:27.059 know he's having a real performance He did it. 00:25:27.099 --> 00:25:28.920 And I was like, oh, clapping. Oh, that was excellent. 00:25:29.099 --> 00:25:30.299 He was like, yes, I know that was excellent. 00:25:30.539 --> 00:25:32.200 But then the piano teacher commented and said, 00:25:32.259 --> 00:25:33.759 oh, your left hand was a little bit too loud. 00:25:34.259 --> 00:25:35.920 And he goes, okay, mommy, rate me out of 10. 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.140 I said, I think it was an eight. And he, his 00:25:39.140 --> 00:25:40.819 face just dropped. And I said, I'm only giving 00:25:40.819 --> 00:25:43.119 you an eight because, you know, your teacher 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:46.299 said your left hand was a bit loud. So you should 00:25:46.299 --> 00:25:47.880 work on that and you can do a little bit better. 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.660 And you can improve. He goes, well, mommy, I 00:25:50.660 --> 00:25:52.420 think your cooking needs to improve. I was like, 00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:58.079 whoa, shit burns. Wow. Seven year old. That is 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.099 a, that is a serious comment. I did not see that 00:26:00.099 --> 00:26:03.460 coming. I was like, wow. And cooking is my thing. 00:26:03.579 --> 00:26:06.220 So I was like, cute ass. But anyway, I couldn't 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.599 say that to him. Not long though. You can say, 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:10.720 sometimes I say, my daughter will tell me a story 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:14.740 and sometimes I go, that was really boring. See, 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:17.380 I can't wait to burn my kids. My kids wouldn't 00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:19.099 even get that. You know, they would just like 00:26:19.099 --> 00:26:22.509 babble away. All right, so this is our fun feature 00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:24.910 called Hot or Hype. Okay. So I'm going to present 00:26:24.910 --> 00:26:27.190 you with some kind of issues or stereotypes or, 00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:29.210 you know, hot topics. You tell me if you think 00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:32.430 legit, it's hot, or not so much it's hype. And 00:26:32.430 --> 00:26:33.809 you can tell us why. This is not a one -word 00:26:33.809 --> 00:26:36.750 answer thing. All right. Pretty girls can't be 00:26:36.750 --> 00:26:40.650 funny. Oh, hype? Absolutely not. There is no 00:26:40.650 --> 00:26:43.410 correlation whatsoever to your looks and your 00:26:43.410 --> 00:26:48.480 comedy. None. Exactly. Look at you, right? That's 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:49.819 why I brought it up because I was like, I feel 00:26:49.819 --> 00:26:51.339 like that's a fourth thing you didn't mention. 00:26:51.420 --> 00:26:53.140 Like, you know, being female, being, you know, 00:26:53.140 --> 00:26:57.180 over 40, but also like being conventionally pretty. 00:26:57.539 --> 00:26:59.359 Like, does that, does that hit you sometimes? 00:26:59.779 --> 00:27:02.440 It was, I mean, it's less of a thing in pregnancy. 00:27:03.500 --> 00:27:05.660 It's a lot easier to get laughs being pregnant, 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.740 which is so weird. That is kind of funny. I could 00:27:07.740 --> 00:27:09.220 see that though. Yeah, just because everything 00:27:09.220 --> 00:27:10.779 just seems funnier. What do they call it? The 00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:12.680 embodied humor, like Chris Farley humor, you 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:14.420 know, where it's like he's, funny just to watch 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:16.700 him yeah i don't know what it is people are more 00:27:16.700 --> 00:27:19.740 relaxed i would sometimes go on stage very dolled 00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:21.579 up i went through a phase of basically dressing 00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:24.660 like a dominatrix in leather pants leather boots 00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:28.319 and everything out and things like that and it 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:30.460 didn't always get a great response on stage i 00:27:30.460 --> 00:27:32.940 wonder like i wonder if that made people uncomfortable 00:27:32.940 --> 00:27:35.779 yeah And now I'm very much, so the way I'm dressed 00:27:35.779 --> 00:27:37.740 today is now how I dress on stage. This is the 00:27:37.740 --> 00:27:39.599 stage look. This is the stage look. And I mean, 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.859 at the moment it's everyday look. But yes, because 00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:45.400 for exactly that reason, because otherwise it's 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.660 not well received. I mean, imagine being pregnant 00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:50.460 and dressed like a dominatrix. How do you say 00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:53.380 dominatrix? That would be interesting. You know 00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:55.519 what I might find that funny? That would be sweaty. 00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.380 Yeah, leather boots in Singapore is already like 00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:02.099 a real stretch. It's a real stretch. Okay, hotter 00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:04.390 hype. The second baby, and again, you might not 00:28:04.390 --> 00:28:06.769 realize this, the second pregnancy is easier 00:28:06.769 --> 00:28:13.349 than the first. I'm going to say hot. I agree 00:28:13.349 --> 00:28:16.230 with it. It is easier, maybe not physically, 00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:19.589 but mentally. And mentally how? Because you kind 00:28:19.589 --> 00:28:21.529 of have more of an idea what's coming. Although 00:28:21.529 --> 00:28:23.910 mine was 12 years ago. So statute of limitations. 00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:28.950 I think you've seen success in pregnancy. You 00:28:28.950 --> 00:28:32.630 know that it can hopefully result in something 00:28:32.630 --> 00:28:35.109 good. And you don't have that same worry of this 00:28:35.109 --> 00:28:37.509 is unimaginable. How can this possibly have a 00:28:37.509 --> 00:28:39.660 baby at the end of it? Yeah, there is something 00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:42.339 to be said for familiarity in any, like, process. 00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:44.500 Yes, absolutely. Obviously, I think I'm the outlier 00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:47.400 here because I went from really wanting to be 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.460 pregnant with my first to feeling pregnant too 00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:54.099 quickly, I felt, with twins, two boys, because 00:28:54.099 --> 00:28:56.759 I already had a son, and I felt like I was just 00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.869 like, ugh. fuck you know like the second pregnant 00:28:58.869 --> 00:29:01.210 and then obviously just being double the size 00:29:01.210 --> 00:29:04.369 I was like yeah I found it much harder second 00:29:04.369 --> 00:29:07.970 time around mentally and physically I honestly 00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:10.650 cannot fathom that different like just the having 00:29:10.650 --> 00:29:12.789 the two babies situation two placentas the whole 00:29:12.789 --> 00:29:14.890 I mean no yours were identical well no they're 00:29:14.890 --> 00:29:16.950 not identical okay I mean they're not I know 00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:18.529 everyone thinks that they're not okay fun fact 00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:22.009 guys did not know that um no not identical but 00:29:22.009 --> 00:29:23.890 my two placentas merged together to become one 00:29:23.890 --> 00:29:26.950 big one You had a super placenta? I had it. Have 00:29:26.950 --> 00:29:29.450 you heard of this? I've never heard of it. See, 00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:30.869 I don't know shit about shit. Now I'm jealous 00:29:30.869 --> 00:29:33.970 of your giant placenta. Yeah, yeah, right? It's 00:29:33.970 --> 00:29:35.269 like, oh, wow, that must have been a heavy placenta. 00:29:35.269 --> 00:29:38.410 I'm a giant placenta. Double placenta. All right, 00:29:38.430 --> 00:29:42.170 gal, hot or hype? Mom brain, legitimate neurological 00:29:42.170 --> 00:29:48.289 condition. Oh, hot. I am utterly useless. Sometimes 00:29:48.289 --> 00:29:50.890 on really basic things. I'm more focused on some 00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:53.349 things, but I also forgot my best friend's name. 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:55.400 This week while I was trying to tell a story 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.259 about her, I'm not saying which best friend it 00:29:57.259 --> 00:30:02.140 was. But funny that you say that because isn't 00:30:02.140 --> 00:30:04.440 there evidence to show that some parts of the 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.400 brain get bigger and others get smaller? Like 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.799 the neuroplasticity during pregnancy has something 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.400 to do with survival. So like your senses and 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.460 awareness get heightened, but then some of your 00:30:14.460 --> 00:30:16.539 logical cognitive gets shrunk. I don't know. 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.440 Again, thank you for neurologists that are shivering 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.380 hearing me talk about this, but it's true. Oh, 00:30:21.460 --> 00:30:23.119 well, that makes sense. I don't know. Just know 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.579 I'm more focused on some things. I do a bit better 00:30:25.579 --> 00:30:28.700 at work, I think. I'm sharper. But I've also 00:30:28.700 --> 00:30:30.619 got someone's name wrong on stage the other day. 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.059 I guess the audience wouldn't know, so it's not. 00:30:34.339 --> 00:30:37.660 Have you ever forgotten a joke, though? midway 00:30:37.660 --> 00:30:41.039 saying it no because my theory is I wrote it 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.279 so I can't really forget it because it's my own 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.480 words if that makes sense yeah you know if it's 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.559 your own words you can't really forget you can 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.819 mess it up and then be like oh I forgot to not 00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:52.779 say that word which then ruins the punchline 00:30:52.779 --> 00:30:54.900 yes but but forgetting the actual content no 00:30:54.900 --> 00:30:56.740 yeah have you done that have you messed up a 00:30:56.740 --> 00:30:59.599 joke yeah occasionally very very occasionally 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.660 yeah but I feel like probably one of the skills 00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:04.740 of a pro comic is like like getting around it 00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:06.640 like because you're the only one who realizes 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.019 you messed it up right but you just tell the 00:31:09.019 --> 00:31:11.160 audience they love to know you messed up okay 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:17.779 hot or hype and you've touched on a bit kids 00:31:17.779 --> 00:31:20.279 and family are the best tropes for comedians 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.119 oh i would say hot because it's so universal 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.460 you know if you don't have kids you at least 00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:28.220 have been a kid you know a kid you have parents 00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:31.329 you know something so yes a hundred percent are 00:31:31.329 --> 00:31:33.170 there other things that you find are universally 00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:36.289 funny dating for a lot of it that's true even 00:31:36.289 --> 00:31:38.349 i find that i've not dated and like i don't even 00:31:38.349 --> 00:31:40.730 know yeah i mean i mean probably i don't even 00:31:40.730 --> 00:31:45.230 know if i've dated yeah but i still find it funny 00:31:45.230 --> 00:31:48.369 you have not missed anything uh dating i mean 00:31:48.369 --> 00:31:51.130 i think the very stereotypical man woman how 00:31:51.130 --> 00:31:52.630 what's the difference between men and women's 00:31:52.630 --> 00:31:55.970 situation it's all it is all trope but it's you 00:31:55.970 --> 00:31:59.440 know you have to be universal yeah When I think 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.039 about your life, so if you write down you on 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:04.880 paper, what I know about you, right? So it's 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.279 like you left the UK to come to Singapore. You 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.680 went back to the UK after divorce. You said licked 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.079 your wounds, came back to Singapore, single -mommed 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.019 it for a while, met a new guy. So like all these 00:32:14.019 --> 00:32:17.599 kind of things. How is that giving you a perspective 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.579 on like having it all figured out? Because what 00:32:21.579 --> 00:32:23.400 I'm trying to get at is that you don't have a 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:27.089 clean, linear life. You have an up and down sort 00:32:27.089 --> 00:32:30.710 of pathway. And I think women think by this age, 00:32:30.789 --> 00:32:33.910 by 40, I should have exactly what I had set out 00:32:33.910 --> 00:32:37.029 at 25. You probably have nothing similar to that. 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:39.470 I probably have now what I would have wanted 00:32:39.470 --> 00:32:42.410 at 18, but it's taken me 22 years to get here, 00:32:42.490 --> 00:32:45.750 I would say. So I have the comedy career. You 00:32:45.750 --> 00:32:48.759 know, I have a career that I love. And I have 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.579 a really hot husband. So that's what I always 00:32:51.579 --> 00:32:53.799 tell people. 18 -year -old me would be really 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.599 proud of that. Yeah, well, and 42 -year -old 00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.579 me stupidly thought that Sasha's husband was 00:32:58.579 --> 00:33:01.160 younger than her. Yes! Not, not, and again, that's 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:06.220 not... It's because he looks young. By the way, 00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:09.460 you are his favorite person on the planet for 00:33:09.460 --> 00:33:12.240 that. Every time he asked me, what are you doing 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.000 today? And I was like, I'm going to record the 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.400 podcast. He's like giggling to himself. I was 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.799 like, oh, shut up. A funny story about that. 00:33:18.859 --> 00:33:21.640 I also have a Singaporean husband. And when we 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.119 were interviewing our very first helper. Well, 00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:27.000 our only helper. We went through the entire interview. 00:33:27.099 --> 00:33:28.839 She was super attentive, super professional. 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.640 And at the end, we said, you know, do you have 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.220 any questions for us? And up to this point, she 00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:35.720 had not said anything except answer the things 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.460 we had. So do you have any questions for us? 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.759 And she said, just one. How old is sir? And I 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.200 genuinely think she was concerned that he could 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.920 not employ her. I literally was like, I mean, 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.380 it was such a genuine, she was like, how old 00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:52.980 is sir? And I was like, oh. And at that time, 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.640 God, what was he? 20, 20. It started with a two. 00:33:56.779 --> 00:33:58.720 Okay, so let's just all settle down. She thought 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.079 she was going to have to look after him as well. 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.700 Pretty much, pretty much. Which, I mean, was 00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:04.589 she wrong? I mean, probably not. She was not. 00:34:05.210 --> 00:34:07.230 Sherry Tyler, I mean, I don't know you like that. 00:34:07.410 --> 00:34:09.909 Yeah, but again, probably there's more taking 00:34:09.909 --> 00:34:12.869 care in one side of the partnership. Anywho, 00:34:12.909 --> 00:34:15.429 all right, gal. So you've given us, first of 00:34:15.429 --> 00:34:16.829 all, a lot of laughs, which is exactly what I 00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:18.929 was hoping on this episode. But secondly, we 00:34:18.929 --> 00:34:21.690 would like to know a bit more about your 40s 00:34:21.690 --> 00:34:24.570 formula. So when you give advice to women, and 00:34:24.570 --> 00:34:26.190 again, you've just entered the age group, but 00:34:26.190 --> 00:34:28.420 you've done a lot of living. OK, you've been 00:34:28.420 --> 00:34:30.219 through divorce, again, single mom, some of these 00:34:30.219 --> 00:34:32.079 things that I think women in their 40s would 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.780 think were traumatically impassable to get through. 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.519 Yeah. What's your advice for women in their 40s 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.880 that really want to thrive? I would say energy 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:46.159 wise, quality over quantity is my thing. So don't 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.280 spread yourself too thin. I used to do it. Choose 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.300 where you have to put your energy. Choose where 00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:54.880 you want to put your energy. and put it there 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.619 and you will be so much happier because I was 00:34:57.619 --> 00:35:01.099 a people pleaser I wanted to spread myself across 00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:04.440 whoever needed me not anymore now I just spend 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:06.739 my time doing what I want to do with the people 00:35:06.739 --> 00:35:08.900 I want to do it with this is welcome to the no 00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:13.739 shits given decade absolutely I'm so horribly 00:35:13.739 --> 00:35:16.900 unsociable sometimes now compared to I used to 00:35:16.900 --> 00:35:19.659 be the biggest extrovert and now I'm like yeah 00:35:19.659 --> 00:35:25.110 yeah you know I'm pretty hard to to get time 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:27.789 with but I mean pregnancy is part of that yeah 00:35:27.789 --> 00:35:29.929 but still like you said dropping the people pleasing 00:35:29.929 --> 00:35:33.289 I think is something you know we I still know 00:35:33.289 --> 00:35:35.530 women in their 50s struggling with that so the 00:35:35.530 --> 00:35:38.170 fact that you have nailed that girl energy up 00:35:38.170 --> 00:35:41.650 people pleasing down yes absolutely thank you 00:35:41.650 --> 00:35:43.329 so much for being with us today we so appreciate 00:35:43.329 --> 00:36:15.269 it Sasha thanks He's like, you've got to get 00:36:15.269 --> 00:36:18.369 that off immediately. I introduced a Filipino 00:36:18.369 --> 00:36:20.929 comedian on stage the other day and he did not 00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:22.710 live in the Philippines and was not from the 00:36:22.710 --> 00:36:27.110 Philippines. And it was too late by then. There 00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:30.050 was no re -recording. I was like, fuck it. You're 00:36:30.050 --> 00:36:32.409 from the Philippines now. What does it mean to 00:36:32.409 --> 00:36:33.329 be Filipino today?