The kind of pressure that I felt wasn't more
of a male versus female. It was more of a emotional
impact of just what people wrote about me. The
pressure of people going, she's a nobody. How's
she getting the money? Well, she's dating a race
driver. That's just because I came out of nowhere.
So people are like, who the hell is this woman?
I didn't want to lose my personality and I love
my job so much. When I was a first time parent,
I was afraid that people it would okay it would
ruin my image because i'm getting to the age
where i have friends dropping dead i've had moments
of um panic attacks i would have these inner
feelings of like jealousy and then i found out
i was pregnant it was it was very difficult for
me i cried i had to make the choice Hey, and
welcome to The 40s Formula, your go -to place
for insightful discussions on navigating the
40s and thriving in this transformative decade.
We're your hosts, Jasmine and Amanda, two women
that are passionate about exploring the challenges
and adventures that come with turning 40 and
what lies ahead. Claire Jedrick is a British
-born, Singapore -based MC, presenter and speaker.
Renowned for her extensive experience in the
lifestyle, technology and motorsports industry,
she gained prominence as Singapore's only female
race car driver and later co -founded and managed
Singapore's first electric fun karting facility.
Claire has transitioned from race car driving
to become a podium -placed triathlete and mountain
biker. She actively creates content advocating
for sports participation and awareness and dedicates
time to mentoring Olympic hopefuls on sports
sponsorship, media and marketing. She also supports
charity organisations including Breast Cancer
Foundation and Smile Asia and is the mother to
two beautiful kids. Today on the 40s Formula,
I am very excited to be introducing our guest
today. She is a racing car driver, Singapore's
first female racing car driver. She is an MC.
a media personality, a mother of two kids, and
also a presenter. Today we have Claire Jedrick
with us on The 40s Formula. Welcome, Claire.
Thanks, guys, for having me. Oh, we're so excited.
How are you? You've come all the way from Bali
just to be here with us in the studio today.
Truth is, I don't know where I am. Nobody knows
where I am. What time zone? Where I'm going to
be. Like, I just kind of leave it up to chance.
You've had quite a dynamic career. You've done
a lot of stuff. how have you managed to pivot
from one industry to another? How has that been
for you? In my twenties, it was more of the case
of a lack of actually planning of what I was
going to do and what I wanted to be. In fact,
if you told me what's your five, 10 year plan,
I didn't have one. I probably still don't have
a massive one, but because I have married kids
now, there is a slight more organization to that.
I think a lot of it, to be honest, Now that I've
had time to think about it and look back, it's
been more of pivoting to survive rather than
just by chance. I thought it's by chance, and
that's just because I had a lack of confidence.
I was like, well, whatever I do is whatever I
do. But the pivoting itself really, like I said,
is survival. So I've had a lot of great people
around me, what I do. I didn't really know when
I first started doing hosting and presenting
that was going to be a thing. I knew that I wanted
to do mass communication, but there was a lot
of random hurdles along the way. And somehow
without that education part, like having a degree
in it and whatnot, I've actually somehow managed
to still be inside it, which is quite amazing.
But maybe it's just a sign of the times. I saw
you were a countdown girl. What is a countdown
girl? A deal or no deal girl. Oh, a deal or no
deal. Oh my gosh. I was like, is that a New Year's
Eve thing? You know what's great about being
in your 40s? I am, and I feel like having kids
kind of helped me with this process. I'm a lot
less embarrassed about the things that I did,
or who I was, or what I looked like, or what
I thought. I would never have said that before,
but it's part and parcel of how I got here and
who I am. And I love looking at all that kitschy
footage and cringey stuff. I love it. I love
it. To me, that is zero cringey. to me that's
like the fun fact you bring up at a party like
guess what i know i carried the suitcase it's
just it's a random thing when i look back like
i had a lot of fun i had a lot of fun doing it
you know um yeah deal or no deal and that's like
kind of just after um or just before i really
got into the hosting it's just one of those random
things somebody offered and i said I'm not doing
anything for two weeks. Sure, let's try. I need
to know about the race car driving though, because
I have to say it's an industry I know nothing
about, literally zero. And both you and your
husband are in it. How did you find it? I knew
zero about it. Okay, all right. That makes two
of us then. The difference between me and my
husband, my husband is a very well -known race
driver here in Asia. He will always tell you
that he wasn't the fastest, but he was the most
marketable. And that's been the most amazing
thing that you can pick out about him, is that
he had a plan. He used to put decks together,
go find the marketing. And he was very successful
in that. Right. He started at the age of like
six years old and he's been obsessed with Porsches
from six years old. Wait, how do you start race
car driving when you're six year old? Well, he
did and he did some karting, but it was a lifelong
dream. It was like blinkers on a horse. So that
was that was him his whole life. And I find that
really admirable when people have this lifelong
one dream. Like I've never had that and I still
don't. And I used to. think is something wrong
with me like I don't have a dream or I don't
have a want to do that but he's been obsessed
about it and he found a way in his um right after
he had to do army so he came from Australia was
living there, just found his way to get into
it. I think he made a bunch of money off doing
some projects when he was 24 years old, sold
that off. He was really ambitious at a young
age and then used it and put it into racing.
And from there, then got really serious into
it. And he had some amazing mentors, which I
can't believe people actually gave that time
to him. um and teaching him things and how to
run a business how to do the marketing and then
he did that way for me I was I'm definitely kind
of person who you put me into anything competitive
and if I want to do it it's a yes or no I will
then go ahead and thrive. So I wasn't obsessed
with cars. I'm still not obsessed with cars.
I'm not. I have certain things I love about it,
but I'm not like my husband sending me car links
like every 10 minutes or so. Literally. I actually
started because he offered me a job when he was
a friend. He offered me a job. I'd come back
in the country after a very bad failed relationship.
Wasn't sure what I was going to do. Hanging around.
I was 30 years old. He said, why don't you commentate
this karting championship? But i need you to
learn how to drive because you can't really talk
about it unless you know unless you know it and
i was like sure i'm down for it and i was at
that period in my life where confidence wasn't
a thing it was more of a i have nothing to lose
Like I'm at my lowest, I was still finding where
I was going to live. Was I going to go back into
the media again? I'd given up for a relationship
and I just dived into it. And then I had a lot
of interesting peers, a lot of guys around me
who told me what I need to do, what I need to
say. And they were really hard on me. And I really
had to change my thinking and thought process
to be part of that and to learn to thrive that.
And then I think from there, I kind of then that's
where the first big pivot. in my life was to
actually learn, okay, maybe I'm not so bad at
this. How do I actually get into a car racing?
You know, and that wasn't any plan to actually
become a presenter or something. That was just
a random moment. How was it for you working in
such a male dominated environment? Because it's
quite different, you know, when you're, you've
got other females there with you, but I'm assuming
this was predominantly male. what was that like
emotionally mentally did you feel like you had
to really prove yourself exactly i think initially
you know since i've since i've been like 14 15
um i've always taken part in some form of like
extreme sport and growing up in singapore there
wasn't a lot of opportunities so i did aggressive
inline skating um did like local x games a lot
of like the competitions and there was only like
two females and so And that was basically for
10 years of my life over here. It's not a popular
sport. It wasn't. It's more popular now. We didn't
have facilities. So I was always in the boys'
competition, and I was always quite supported
by my parents going, go ahead, sure, do it. The
kind of pressure that I felt wasn't more of a
male versus female. It was more of an emotional
impact of just what people wrote about me. I
think then it was more of learning how to control
ego. about what people said about me so maybe
there was some confidence in there and some anger
and that was just probably because I was just
a bit younger a bit younger and I didn't know
how to deal with that of people the pressure
of people going she's a nobody how's she getting
the money well she's dating a race driver that's
how she got into it I mean the fact is I still
had to get in the car yeah I still had to get
on the podium myself and I think that's just
because I came out of nowhere So people are like,
who the hell is this woman? And why is she there?
That must have been tough. And I wonder, obviously
the social media aspect now, if you had gone
through that then, that would have been even
harder to sort of manage. Over a decade ago...
it was just becoming a thing yeah yeah like social
media it only just started like you know having
roles as a social media manager data collection
stuff like this and it wasn't such a big thing
yeah because i came from that generation where
there was no media yeah exactly you know it was
a magazine no exactly you know and um it was
really difficult at the beginning to wrap my
head around it but to be honest like i said um
my heart my now husband um he really taught me
to let go of the ego to unplug that's the word
he used and i never forget unplug from people
and unplug because for him i think he went through
a lot of that yeah he went through a lot of just
naysayers and who he was and where he came from
and his background a lot of people didn't know
where he came from there's very little of that
and he's quite a private person and he was like
unplug unplug and you'll just be happy and you'll
do your thing yeah in hindsight when you look
at it it's because Singapore's so small, you
do kind of get that big character syndrome. So
when you're in the spotlight, it feels like,
wow, this is me. And the fact is we're a little
red dot. It doesn't really matter at the end
of the day. It's just a little Singapore. Yeah,
it is a little Singapore, but being the big fish
in the small pond can come with a lot of pressure,
I can imagine. It can, but I mean, I think you
have to make a choice. If you want to be that
big fish in a small pond, then you have to take
the heat. If you're going to put yourself out
there, you've got to take it. And that's what
I believe. Yeah, I think that's probably the
most important thing. Are you officially retired,
by the way, from the sport? So yeah, so right
now, I mean, I wouldn't say no. to a race, but
yes, I'm a former race driver. And that was the
next pivotal moments of tagging myself to who
I am because it then became a job presenting.
I found my way because as a presenter and especially
in Asia, when you're mixed or you're Asian, it
was fashion, makeup. We didn't even have podcasting
back then, you know, what is that? That's where
it became strategic. And I kind of thought, okay,
well, there's no other females. and there's probably
only one or two jobs really around how do i get
into that so smart and you knew what you were
talking about because you've been there you've
done that yeah and and my peers were incredibly
harsh on me like that thing you said in that
interview doesn't sound quite right didn't write
terminology you know and a lot of it was trying
to be smart in the way i learned i might not
have necessarily understood at the beginning
to be honest sometimes the the best way to do
it is the laziest way and i say lazy in the way
is that i didn't sit there and study car parts
and the bolts and nuts some things that you know
like my husband he'll just know everything he
just does because the interest is there it's
not because i'm interested but to have some that
20 years or lack of knowledge compared to him
yeah it's hard so what I did is I used to go
around to all the pit lanes I'd ask them all
the questions and write down all the answers
and then go back in my interviews and be like
okay I heard that your car and this was happening
to you what's going to do and then I would form
I'd actually go and I did better homework of
course I was look up videos how do they talk
what kind of questions what sounded right and
then pass all my peers just to get there so a
bit fake it till you make it moment and we've
had a lot of those and I feel like it works because
you know you eventually figure out what you're
doing and you do make it yeah and i do feel like
that's still research by the way yeah it's a
different style i hear you it's it's almost like
that left brain right brain thing right it's
like maybe you weren't reading a book or like
you know typing in a search engine to figure
but you were talking to people in the industry
and i feel like Correct. Yeah. I was trying to
find the best way. So I would sound correct.
I mean, you don't go into a pit there and go
like, tell me about your, the color of your car.
I'd be like, well, this year's livery is like,
you know, tell us about your sponsors. You know,
I kind of like amped it up and like try to use
the right terms, terminology. So I didn't sound
like a wally on TV and people like call me out
and be like, there she is. And the reality is
as a female, they would call you out harder.
Like you said, no question. They'd be like, see,
this is why, you know, females shouldn't commentate
this sport or whatever. You know, it's like that
sexism definitely exists. It does, you know,
but there's certain parts of it. When you said
in a male dominated industry, when I was pregnant
with my first child, up to about seven months
old, I was still working. I mean, a big part
of me, I didn't want to lose my personality and
I love my job so much. It would only come around
every three years to be a presenter in a pit
lane for like a GT race. So I said yes to the
job. And I carried on all the way, running up
and down. And to be honest, I was like, oh, I
can still do it. I can still do it. But internally,
when I saw myself on TV, because I'd wear a baggy
shirt. And first pregnancy, I didn't look too
big. But I kind of felt like, you know what?
I don't really want to see a pregnant woman on
TV around the cars and stuff. I personally felt
that, but not for any reason. And then the second
pregnancy. I was like, you know what, when I
back off, get to six months, it's not so visible
still. But, you know, when I chill for a bit,
like if they want me, they want me. If they don't,
they don't. Absolutely. And they still do because
you're still there, right? I'm still there. So,
you know. Amazing. Yeah. Amanda, can we talk
about how clean Guzmini Gomez's food is? Like
truly clean, not the it has letters, so it's
healthy kind of clean. Oh, totally. GYG is on
another level. There's no preservatives, no artificial
colors, no weird additives. It is just proper,
real food. I read that they went through 21 versions
of their corn chips before they found the one.
Now that's commitment. And they fly in their
avocados and tomatoes daily from Australia to
Singapore. That is the level of commitment I
want in my food. You can taste it, whether it's
the burritos, the bowls, or those chipotle seasoned
fries. You just feel good after eating it. And
it's really why my entire family keeps going
back. Clean is the new healthy, and GYG has been
leading that charge since day one. They've literally
reinvented fast food. Who says it has to be dodgy
and deep fried? Not on GYG's watch. So another
thing you love to do is try a... Triathlons?
Yes, triathlons. You've done Ironman. Do I love
it? Well, you do a lot of it. Yeah, I feel like
you are forcing yourself to love it at some point.
Yeah, I'm still questioning some of my things
that I do. Well, I love parts of it. I love cycling.
I wish, I mean, there's no regrets, anything
in my life. But if there's one thing that I wish
I could have done, is that started cycling younger
to have been exposed to cycling i love it i think
i would have been a great cyclist um i'm definitely
a kind of person that has hyper focused amongst
all my other moments where i get also hyper distracted
everything else around me but yeah i wish i could
have uh cycled a little bit longer in my life
but i've always loved running i was a ex -runner
did nationals when i was younger here in singapore
when i moved and swimming i love the ocean i
love swimming training not so much but the thing
about me is that because i really don't like
it i don't know i could almost say hate it's
a strong word but i force myself to go and join
these competitions that have it because i'm thinking
maybe there's a way that i'll learn to love it
like signing up for a 3 000 meter swimming thing
in the ocean i'm like maybe maybe i can get good
at it you know how many have you done now Triathlons,
I started in 2015. Okay. And it was just, it
was like a random, random thing. And that's just
because of cycling and running. I could swim
a bit in the ocean. I was okay. It wasn't serious.
And I got serious about four years ago. Okay.
Just, I think after I knew that I had coaches
for, for racing and cars and stuff like that.
I realized you need coaches for everything. Yes,
you do. Coaches, data, and because of the racing,
I love data. A lot of people ask me, but what
are you going to do with that data? I'm like,
does it matter? I like it. I love having know
where I'm at, where I'm going. Yeah, I mean,
I started my career as a triathlon coach. So
that was my first kind of gig in fitness. And
so, yeah, I mean, it was back in this, again,
you know, 2015. This was back in like 2005, okay?
So, but yeah, being back then, we didn't have
Strava and we didn't have Garmin. have so like
my data was spreadsheets wow you know and my
clients thought I was such a nerd right yeah
because I was like I was like please tell me
or you know like your volume for this week and
then I would like input and then I would generate
the next week's training based on their volume
and pace and like you know and it was so nerdy
back then but I do think people are using tools
like this now to be much better in the sport
and the data is so much more accessible yeah
and I mean AI is only going to just continue
to do that for us tell us about your coaching
as obviously as coaches I'm like okay I want
to hear like tell us about your training and
then how your coach programs for you because
you are a busy mom because you are also doing
all these other things right so your your athletics
can't look like everyone else's athletics I assume
I know absolutely yeah um I'm always trying to
find my placing in it in and out I think because
my personality I'm that kind of person I think
you would know being a coach you've met so many
people where I can't stand it if it's like a
9 .86 kilometers i need to get to that 10 exactly
10 .0 like it has to be like it would just irritate
me so everything that i do in with the coaching
even i feel like even to now i'm still having
to undo things of my personality of the rounding
up and stuff like when my body hurts and stuff
and stop it with the coaching i love it so much
because it definitely gives me the accountability
i need it i have a very unstructured mind And
I struggle with that. I struggle with daily things.
Like on a daily life, away from sport, I feel
quite scattered. Okay. And I just have a brain
that's just nonstop talking. I have nonstop conversations
in my head and my husband laughs at my processes.
He's like, what? Like to move some clothing,
there's like 10 processes to get there. I was
like, I just need to explain this process, why
it takes two weeks to do certain things. So with
the coaching, I love it because the accountability,
it's my actual meditation. I don't pick up the
phone. I won't even talk to my kids. They have
to get out of the room. It's one thing that I'm
really strict about. The actual coaching, I find
is very trial and error to find something that
works with you and can work with you. I have
just gone in blindly sometimes going like, okay,
this person's asked me, do I want to try that?
And I go ahead of it. I'm quite easy going that
way. And as long as they give me a plan and they
talk to me and we can set some goals and they're
quite open about it, that's probably how I find
my coaching. I don't have like a strict, I don't
go down looking for the best and the most accountable
because sometimes the best also means there's
more people there. So am I going to get, you
know, but I'm always. open to trying new things
and new people the coaching um gives me a way
because my plans are sent to me like every week
yeah so i get all my information of what i need
to do i guess to hit certain amounts and times
a week so i guess it'd be anywhere between i
think eight hours is the minimum you know to
like 10 hours and when it really reaches up to
some of the bigger uh competitions that's up
to like 14 15 hours anything above that i think
you're pro yeah yeah pretty much you're pro you
know if you got to 20 hours or a national athlete
i don't have that time i did it i did it the
year before i was hitting 14 15 hours i didn't
go out didn't do anything it was no sorry i was
wearing a blanket yeah you know and it's great
i can actually say that i'm no fun but i I'm
proud to say I'm no fun. I wasn't fun. I wasn't
what fun Claire was. Stop drinking. Just all
the fun things that I got. I wasn't social. I
think I really tried to open up last year and
tried to add in a few more elements of letting
go. Yeah. Because I'm not going to the Olympics
or anything. I'm just, you know, but I'm also
see where the unstructured part comes with me
is the saying yes to certain competitions that
pop up. Oh. Do you want to join this? You want
to do this? And also being in media, people want
to give me slops to try things and do things.
And I'm like, okay, sure. My problem is I'm a
yes person. Yeah. And then you realize. I had
a lot of my plate last year and I had a lot of
injuries and you don't really account for mishaps.
Yeah. You know, I had some crashes last year,
ribs, injuries. I remember seeing those pictures.
Hematomas. Yeah. And you don't account for that,
but I kind of. had to work through them yeah
this year i'm in a different headspace um so
i still have my coaching but i'm trying to be
a bit more fluid and i felt like there's a lot
of pressure on myself last year yeah because
i had so much competition and then when i went
for the one competition at the end of the year
that was quite special i was a bit i was super
relaxed i was like i just want to enjoy it because
i was just done for the year you know and looking
and really you only get a month off when you're
doing iron man's when you're doing other like
triathlon competitions in a year. What events
are you doing this year? So this year, interesting,
lots of random things. I've always been an advocate
to try new things. Always. I always want to do
new things. Last year I did, I think, I can't
remember, two or three, three Ironmans. Four
Ironmans. Three. Three Ironmans plus the MetaSprint
series. What should I do? I think I did some
other random things in between that. You have
the Singapore Triathlons. And usually that's
because beginning of the year, you have the Meta
Sprint. You have like your Ironman's mid -year.
And now as I understand the competitions and
the structures and the traveling, and if you
want to go to the World Championships for Ironman,
which is end of year. You need to do certain
competitions at certain parts of the year to
get slots for this year or next year. Like for
me being an unstructured person, it's been a
struggle to structure everything because if I
want to be a certain place this year, I am going
to probably attend the Deseru Ironman again.
And I think part of that will be for media, but
also I just want to have another go at the running
section uphill. And I just want to conquer that
a little bit. um i feel like i've got my swimming
a little bit under control now um i've got there's
the world aquatics championship coming so shout
out for that and there's a master's category
and i am nowhere near some of these amazing swimmers
i have like some competitors who are ex -fina
swimmers um shout out male speed amazing athlete
swimmers like i am just so in awe of her speed
this is phenomenal and it's it's technique years
of training um i would never get to that close
as that but i say never well i i'm inspired to
take part in that and just that like i said it's
love hate with the swimming but um i've been
invited to join in that like a 3 000 meters um
for that so i thought just a casual 3 000 guys
You know, no worries. So not my thing. I'm all
about wham, bam, thank you, ma 'am. Yeah. I've
always been a spring. Are you though? Because
you're doing Ironman. And I just want to clarify
because I can't assume that all of our listeners
know what this is. It's a 2 .4 kilometer swim.
Okay. And again, open water usually. No, so that's
full Ironman. I do half Ironman. Oh, half Ironman.
Okay. Even so. So 1 .2 kilometers swim. 1 .9.
1 .9 kilometers swim. Cycling is 90 kilometers
and then you do a half marathon. So can you imagine
double that for an Ironman? Everybody keeps saying
to me do the full but I don't really feel the
need. It's more of the case of being 12 hours
by myself in my own head. I don't want to spend
12 hours on myself. That would do my head in.
How long does it normally take you? Does it take
you the six hours? Between five and a half to
six hours to six, like, yeah, 6 .15, depending.
Each course is different. The half Ironman distance
was what took me out of triathlon, by the way.
That was my last and final race. And I was like,
that is too long because I was Olympic forever.
That was my love. Yeah. You know, fast. I love
that. slow enough to get a pace because like
sprints are just not a thing like that and then
you know it's just all out yeah 101 is weird
i loved olympic i love the consistency of it
i was like this is great and then i did one half
and i was like oh that's not great and it was
in california so you know talk about hilly yes
and part of the run turnaround was on the sand
so they had us run laps for a half marathon that's
so hard and part of the laps were in the sand
and i was like this is absolutely i was like
this is torturous i was like i was like why would
you lap this course so anyway yeah yeah it's
uh course course makes a whole big difference
it does and every year i'm and i think they do
feedback on certain courses to see where they
can like the desert route I know that the year
before I was with a bunch of guys who had done
the year before. They're like, you've done this.
But it was it was three laps. But I think it
gets quite repetitive. And they changed it to
two laps. But it meant adding an extra distance
in. And this was a giant hill. There you go.
I actually don't mind hills. I actually love
hill cycling. Wow. I'm one of those people. I
love it. I don't know. I love the push, the running,
even though it's painful. I still love it. yeah
this is so i feel like for me it's a weird it's
a weird thing because i don't like it i feel
the urge and pull to do it it's that competitive
nature but i think it's very personal in that
way you know like you know i mean how much can
i train till i'm good and then i run out of talent
as we say you know where do i run out of talent
and up to that point i still am finding myself
at you know 42 years old so you've got two kids
yes our boys are besties they are thank you how
has your mindset changed since having kids especially
when it comes to fitness and also your career
has there been a difference or would you say
it's still the same there's parts of it where
I refuse to let go which was very naive at the
beginning but still very doable work -wise traveling
my husband um I would say probably retired last
year but because I was also after my own career
at a time racing and then i was also traveling
every two three weeks for presenting and hosting
and then my husband was racing around asia as
well so and i would be managing team doing client
stuff um and working together um it was the the
naive part was probably like i'm still gonna
stick the baby on my back and we're gonna go
so i did europe with him when he did uh super
cup which is in europe um it was it was difficult
it was difficult because um yeah, I'm on my own.
I've got to make sure my husband has like enough
sleep. He's got everything and still manage it
and know that his selfishness for the sport that
I don't want to create any problems, any argues,
any feelings, because it is about him. And if
I'm wanting to do that with him, I have to understand
it's about him. So it was difficult, but not
impossible. The rest of it, the rest of the childhood,
It's interesting. I had to be a lot more organized.
I was never an organized person, ever. But I
completely believe that with the organization
that when people used to tell me, wait till you
have kids, then you'll see why you're late and
why you do this. So you know what I did? I was
like, okay, I'm going to get ready two hours
before and I'll leave the half an hour for the
drama. And I feel like things are just about
excuses, giving yourselves. And I never want
to give in to my excuses. which is also a problem
because sometimes claire you know i think you're
injured or clay i think you're really sick like
you know like it's not an excuse i think you
just need to rest yeah things did change with
the kids um and being a parent i feel like with
my racing i learnt letting go of ego letting
go that even if the stars aligns on that day
sometimes just the hardware won't work it's terrible
weather same same with kids everything was about
letting go of ego and each kid i had i had new
ego i had new ego because i was learning how
do i put it when i when i was a first time parent
i was afraid that people it would okay it would
ruin my image ruins a harsh word but i didn't
want to even talk about that was a mother being
a while a race car driver it was almost i didn't
was embarrassed but i was like oh they're not
going to see me sporty i didn't like the mother
image Yeah, because your identity was Claire
Jedrick, this race car driver. Former X Games
athlete, you know, cool, edgy, hard. I feel like
it was intruding into my image and people wouldn't
see me. And it wasn't about being hardcore, but
I was an outdoor person. And I think I had this
idea, you know, they love people are saying sacrifice,
sacrifice. And what are you going to do? Are
you still going to do it because you're a kid?
And natural, I guess, 20 -year -old Claire would
be like, no. Like that's not who I am. Stop judging
me, you know. But to be honest, there was a lot
of that. Second kid, I worked through that and
going, you know what? It's okay to be a mother.
It's okay to do all these things. In fact, like
I think it's probably, I guess being in the media
is a bit more interesting in that way because
I can do it. I can do it. It takes a bit of planning.
It takes a lot of help. I have a partner. It
takes a lot of communication. um it really put
me through the paces of who i am today i had
to think i went through a lot of process of people
like to say trauma of like childhood and things
that we do i don't really see as trauma as part
and parcel i had a great childhood there's things
i don't like about what my parents did you know
that there's a lot of things i think that was
a gift for me the things that i didn't like and
maybe had pain and anxieties from that, that
now I can look back and go, well, if you really
don't want that, then how do I do it now as a
parent for my kids? You know, and there is a
lot of working through myself. There is, you
know, and I'm always working on it of these random
anxieties that I have about having that ball
in my stomach, about just doing things, you know,
but it's really been about pulling back. Yeah.
and being more of like the joy of missing out
rather than the fear of missing out which was
a big part of my life and being competitive which
people you know um always think i am but because
i just want to do everything you know now i know
that i can't do everything and it's okay yeah
you know and i'm actually quite happy i'm quite
happy not doing everything do i wish i was doing
lots of other competitions yeah but you know
i really want to see like things like my kids
graduations even if they're five years old i
wanna i wanna go see them do things and the joy
on their face to know that i was there because
there are moments in my life though my parents
were working so hard but i remember they were
always there for all my competitions it was break
dancing and this they were always there for everything
you know another thing to your list break dancing
There was a, that was like, you know, you go
through those moments of culture and like my.
Again, I did not have a break dancing moment,
but yes, but like I know what you mean. It was,
it's funny because when I came from the skate
park culture, a lot of them went into like the
hip hop culture. Yeah. So a lot of them became
DJs, dancers. I came from like, yeah, I did dance
for a period of time and the performance. And
I think that was just always part of my personality
of learning something. It was just learning something
and it was athletic. Yeah. So that was just part
of my random history. Yeah. Move your body and
learn something at the same time. Right. Which
is cool. Look, I am never cutting carbs. They're
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women then who are in their forties, who might
be struggling with this identity crisis, you
know, where they have always been, you know,
someone who goes out, says yes, and now they're
mothers and they're feeling overwhelmed. What
would you say to them? You know, it's so easy
to say, just let go and stuff like this. The
only thing I can say is that I really believe
in all honesty of that one life i know if i don't
let myself go of certain things that i want to
do or an image and stuff like that the moment
passes yeah the moment goes you know and you
know you come up with questions of mortality
because i'm getting to the age where i have friends
dropping dead we're having problems who are doing
things and i know through conversations i'm more
of a person who does deep conversations rather
than the general um hi what are you doing you
know um i struggle that's where my anxiety lies
it's weird as a presenter but that's me it's
hard though isn't it that little small talk yeah
i'm really bad and anxious about that even though
i'm in this line of work talking to friends and
having deep conversations when mortality comes
up i really do think about if god forbid something
happened to me tomorrow what would have i done
And could I just leave knowing that I did these
things and I tried, even if I failed? Who cares?
The judgment is only myself. Nobody's judging
me, my family, my friends, random people especially.
But for mothers out there, you know, it's hard.
If you don't give yourself a break, you kind
of get trapped in emotion. And I used to bring
my screaming child out. with me in fact both
of them and i would get messages being in the
media like i don't know how you're bringing your
child out i haven't gone out the house for two
years yeah i'm a person who is highly active
and like out there um um i can constantly move
and think and do things i have i've had moments
of panic attacks which i think i'm finding out
more and more people like me have them the people
who do a lot of high impact stuff and who can
just like, uh, like in term in, in times of like
drama and turmoil, I just seem to work. Like
I can figure things out. I'm really good in emergencies,
but there's a weird side to me because of age
and hormones. Um, I have to let go and realize
I can't do these things. I can't be that person.
Um, and, and learning to be easy on myself and
understand that my body has changed. My hormones
have changed. I can't be that person anymore.
And it's okay. It's okay to be like that. And
really, I think going back to your question,
which was what I'd tell mothers, right? I think
just being honest with yourself. Say you need
the help. Ask people around you. Even as a friend,
I need a break. I need to get out of here. I
think the communication between partners is massive.
a lot of the times i would think how come he's
not planning this he's not doing this i would
have these inner i would say feelings of like
jealousy and i was really honest with my partner
going i'm sitting here eight months pregnant
feeling like a well you're achieving all these
things i'm doing nothing and not every partner
is going to say this i know but he was for a
person who believes in drink concrete claire
you know suck it up like you'll be fine like
you know a person who didn't understand what
panic attacks until i had them it was a whole
new game for him as well he said some really
kind things to me he said what is wrong with
being just a mother yeah you know i get emotional
thinking about that now because i didn't expect
that from him and he was like why is it not achievement
being a mother just a mother yeah you know and
he's like you wanted this so much it's okay it's
okay to be nothing else but a mother it's all
right you know and it really took away my feelings
of like oh no i'm getting emotional yeah like
the jealousy and all these things and maybe it's
a whole motion of things you know but it also
because i tagged my my career and everything
to who i was before and that was the it's ego
chasing you know with that it's just like i said
be easier on yourself You have to let go of certain
things. I never see things as a sacrifice. Don't
think you're sacrificing who you are, what you're
doing, your work, your family and that. I personally
don't like to use the word sacrifice because
it's a negative connotation. It's just a choice.
There's a time and place for everything. I'm
very careful, and I've said this before, about
doing the things about being inclusive for women.
Like when people go, oh, how are you doing sport?
How are you trying to run a business? How are
you being a mother and being there for all their
things? I do not feel like you can have it all.
You can't. You can't. And it's okay. It's just
you've got to plan when you want to do it at
a certain time. They always say, right, you can
have it all, just not at the same time. And that's
the reality. You can have all the four things
you just mentioned. Absolutely. In your life,
you can have those. Yeah. But you cannot operate
at 100 percent on all of those all of the time.
And to expect that is ridiculous. Right. And
like you said, you know, something when when
you were talking about like you don't have to
sacrifice, like sacrifice is not what makes you
a mother. No. I always this is something that
I feel very strongly about. It's like you are
a mother. You are not a martyr. So you giving
up yourself in the name of your children is not
something that you need to strive for. Like you
can let that go. yeah i love that yeah yeah i
love the the mod of it like yeah absolutely like
that that doesn't make you a better mom or it
doesn't make it that's not the badge of motherhood
it's like look what i gave up it's like no look
what i created all these two and three all these
humans you know but also my life yeah to be a
home mom and home like home school no effing
way me literally like i'm very impatient i have
patience but as i'm very impatient You have to
be of a certain personality to be able to do
that. And hands down, I couldn't do that. You
want to talk about structure, girl? So again,
at least we send our kids to school and school
gives them a structure. Can you imagine you are
the school and you are giving them a structure?
It's so intense. Those homeschooling moms get
like absolute mad props from this side of the
table. Yeah, I can't do it. I just couldn't.
And also, I just want that distance. I want that
distance because the kids learn more. I think
they peg their... they peg their emotions to
us and so do we yeah you know because i feel
like you can do better like you know and i totally
understand as a parent now why you do that i
have to hold back now i understand why football
matches get punch -ups and stuff like before
i'm like these hooligans like you know look at
this it's terrible for the first time in my life
i knew claire don't say anything don't get too
involved Seven -year -old playing a friendly
game. My son is not particularly like the fastest.
He's learning and he loves it. He likes the team.
He's so sure. But I'm out there after 10 minutes.
I found myself going, and you usually give me
like, like, whoa, like that's a bit loud. And
I was like, oh, I'm that mom too. And I don't
want to be, I don't want to be. But it's just
something comes over me and I'm like, oh my God,
I am shouting from the sidelines. I was so judgy
about soccer moms. i'm one of them of all people
it's become me yeah you know i'm i'm that person
and i totally get it you know like uh but yeah
i need that separation yeah for them for me and
i definitely am a better person for the teaching
for my time to go away and and it's really difficult
in the beginning um the first both kids at three
months i would i disappeared to go and do my
work i purposely took the job because i knew
i would get sucked in to wanting to be with them
all the time. And people ask me about mom guilt.
It is always there. Of course. Never goes away.
Yeah, just because we're not martyrs doesn't
mean we don't feel the guilt. But I have good
reminders around me. Like when Yui goes, look,
you're at a job. There's no point thinking. You're
there for five days. You're there. You have to
put your 100 % focus on being there. I'm like,
I know, I know. But I just, you know, the think
and the thought. And some moms have told me,
don't worry. don't don't worry about it they're
really not going to miss you and actually the
ones who would judge me more were dads yeah yeah
i've got some of the harshest comments from men
yeah as much as i love men yeah how could you
leave right how could you what kind of a mother
are you i've had random guys said you know two
three years old it passes i don't know why you
left and left them so young i remember random
telling me and we just he asked me you know,
about it. And I was a bit like taken aback. And
then, you know, I was like, it's a bit full on.
And I was like, whoa. And I just didn't feel
like the need to explain myself because I wanted
to take that job. And you know what? And to be
honest, I do have expiry. I have an expiry and
it's the truth. I don't care what you say. I
have an expiry in my industry. I have an expiry
because for marketing, they can't use the same
person always for 10 years. You know, they're
going to. have recycle of people in for new hosts
for fresher for for certain brands where that
brand is going they need a refresh yeah i have
an expiry date so i want to do it i want to take
this opportunity because i know it's going to
pass and that's a selfishness yes i'm selfish
but that's okay but i think everyone has to be
yeah because if you if you don't do anything
for yourself then where are you going to be?
Everyone's just going to walk all over you. Yeah.
And then the resentment builds. And then, you
know, there's a whole different path that you
can walk. You know, one of the best tips that
piece of advice that I've ever received that
I still think about to this day is like for working
moms and working moms who are also athletics,
doing athletics, be where your feet are. So when
you are training, when you are on the bike, you
are on the bike. That's where you are. You are
not thinking about the 10 ,000 things your kids
have to do for their school project. You are
not thinking about work. When you're presenting,
you're presenting. You are professional Claire.
You are doing the things that you're passionate
about. When you're with your kids, you are their
mother. 100 % you're not looking at a screen
you're not in a phone call and I think be where
your feet are is the best piece of advice that
has yeah when I catch myself you know when I
catch myself we need to do this yeah but it's
like because it is easy to kind of like like
even when you like you said you're confident
being in those places and having that part you
can feel it start to bleed, right? You can feel
the kind of like edges. Yeah, yeah. I get cracks.
I get these little holes in the dam and once
they pop, sometimes the dark thoughts just go
whoosh. Yes, yeah. And again, the panic attacks,
right? That's what makes the opportunity for
those emotions to run wild is how difficult it
is to navigate all those identities. And the
thing is, is you don't have to just have one
identity. You can be Claire. jedrick the racing
car driver yeah you can be the triathlete you
can be mum you can do all of these things you
can be a friend you can be a wife you know and
you don't need to just be that one person so
it doesn't need to be a struggle a fight you
can you can do all of these things i'm pegging
myself previously to the whole race driver thing
so it was covid like many people covid came about
um i got pregnant when i'd actually gotten um
uh i got I suppose like chosen for a job for
racing. And then I found out I was pregnant.
It was very difficult for me. I cried. I cried.
I did tell Yui for about a week that I was pregnant.
Oh my gosh. Because I had so much to say. It
was a job that I had gotten in a short amount
of time that would have never been given to most
people because they should have been racing a
lot longer. And I somehow managed to get there.
And then when I found out I was pregnant, I wanted
it. It was unplanned a little bit. They say unplanned,
but I mean, you're an adult, right? I mean, you
do adult things. And that was really difficult.
And when COVID came around, I had to make the
choice. I said, do I want to spend 12 to 15 hours
a day in a garage? It's not glamorous. There's
nothing great. I mean, other than training and
being there and putting your head space where
my feet were, 12 to 15 hours a day in a garage
and doing that in and out and me traveling up
and down Malaysia for years. Like it's just sweaty,
hot, food's not great. Like in a lot of places
having to pre -plan, I was tired. I almost had
a highway, a crash on a highway. I fell asleep
at the wheel. It was very pivotal moments. You
have no idea for me. Like I've had things where
I need to really assess what am I doing? because
I was always doing that and when COVID came around
I was like do I really do I have that drive have
I've had for the last four or five years to go
racing again um unfortunately COVID stopped it
because we couldn't travel so I had the two -year
break yeah but um it really was a moment for
me to go to really sit and think oh my god if
I don't do this racing what am I then yeah can
I still be a presenter for things does that mean
I'm not relevant uh you know because i've always
been the race driver automotive formula one and
stuff like that what do i do and so that's where
the next pivot for me and about when i link back
up to what i first said about survival and careers
and pivoting and all the different things i am
a lot of people have said oh you're kind of jack
of all trades you keep putting your fingers in
the pot and sticking them in different things
oh you know um that really isn't longevity Because
they always talk about depth. Because a lot of
us, we're taught depth. Do something for a long
time. Become a master at it. A master. But I
feel like the master of nothing has been an opportunity
for me because I've been able to take skill sets.
And even though I don't go as deep, I go deep
with skill sets over time, but I've been able
to have breadth. of skill set and has allowed
me to pivot and give me the confidence to know
what works for me and how to do it in a different
job set. And you see that in industries. Yes.
You'll see somebody who works, I mean, somebody
who's from Maritime who will go over to something
else completely random, the CEO of. But it's
because the skill set hasn't changed in that
way. It's just a different topic. So I feel like
in today's world, especially now more than ever,
where things have changed, information, internet,
AI, like having the skill sets, soft skill, communication,
which is where I'm trying to put my children
through and their education and stuff. I feel
like somebody who's had an alternative. And my
husband's had a super alternative career. He
didn't do uni, the only one in his family. And
seeing how he, with skill sets and communication,
soft skills, how that has driven us and putting
ourselves out there, that has been actually more
important. Pun intended, driven. Driven. That
has kind of driven us and allowed us to pivot
into all sorts of random other things. I think
that's, for me nowadays, that's a bit more important
and I feel a bit more confident. of just now
waiting on okay what's my interest and now i
have a bit more time and breath to go okay what
do i really want to do and how can i find my
way i'm i'm to be honest i'm that person who
doesn't really know now i mean it's happening
i'm in my 40s and i feel like there's a big pivotal
moment again like what's happening what do i
do and i'm trying not to be i'm trying to take
it in and go you're like yes i'm still presenting
but uh there's other things i want to get into
and it's never too late to Keep doing it. That
is so true. I'd say that's something we definitely
stand for here at the 40s Formula. It's like
42 is not old. When you think 42, when you look
at the movie, you think 42, you see these glasses,
their hair. But then I look back at pictures
and my parents are 42 and I... No, they look
really youthful still. Up to 42, you know, like
that's the same age I'm now. Still in the game.
And I look at us now in our 40s and I think,
oh, honey. We're still young. So young. So different.
You know, we're not golden girls. We're nothing
like the golden girls. And with wisdom. Yes.
All right. So, you know, age and wisdom. Let's
go with that. We are actually coming to the end
of this interview, which has been absolutely
amazing. So thank you, Claire. But before we
go, we do want to ask you one final question.
And that's what's your 40s formula? What piece
of advice, mantra, anything you would like to
share with our audience about how they can thrive
in the 40s? I'll stick to what I said just now.
I would say just try everything once. Try absolutely
everything for once, whether it works out or
not. If you don't try it, you will never know.
And I think that's probably the most important
thing, especially as you get older. To keep trying
different things. And I feel like that's the
formula for youth, especially for me. And I'm
not chasing youth. I just feel like I want to
keep on learning. And that's probably the gist
of it. Just keep on learning. Try everything
once. Definitely. I mean, imagine if you never
tried chocolate. How would you know how good
that would be? So you definitely should try everything.
Chocolate, Iron Man, same. It is a little bit.
Oh, thank you, Claire. It's been amazing. Thank
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guests. Bye. They do this now, and they do this,
these ones. These ones, okay. Is anyone still
doing this one? I find that one really odd. Yeah,
that's the Korean one. All the young kids do
this. I don't know, my kids love that. My kids
love this one and that one. They do this one.
I don't know if they're boys. I'm not seeing
my boys do it, but maybe because, I don't know,
they... It's mostly Charlie. It's not a boy thing.
Yeah, I would say it's definitely Louise, and
then Archie tries to do it, and he never can,
so he's like... They always tell me to join the
hack. Oh, that's cute. Oh, cute. I feel like
I have arthritis again. Oh, no, don't do it.
Don't dislocate any more fingers. Leave it, leave
it.