WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.860 So we were talking about reinventing yourself, 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:04.099 finding a new passion, you know, whatever. And 00:00:04.099 --> 00:00:07.200 again, the limitless possibility of that is very 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.320 exciting. Yeah. But what if we paint a different 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:12.519 picture? Right. So I have spent not me. This 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:14.759 is this is hypothetical person. I have spent 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:17.899 my 20. I got married when I was 23. I spent my 00:00:17.899 --> 00:00:20.120 20s raising little kids, so that's full on. You 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:22.640 just kind of lose your 20s. Then I spent my 30s 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:24.920 raising bigger kids, so being very involved with 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:27.500 their school activities. Now I'm in my 40s and 00:00:27.500 --> 00:00:30.980 again soon 50s. Everyone's flown the coop. I 00:00:30.980 --> 00:00:33.399 actually don't know what I want. So all your 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:35.359 talk about seizing what I want and finally having 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:37.640 the time, I actually have no idea because I have 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:40.460 literally kind of disappeared myself through 00:00:40.460 --> 00:00:42.899 those generations. And I come into my 50s actually 00:00:42.899 --> 00:00:45.200 feeling quite directionless, a little bit depressed. 00:00:45.880 --> 00:01:04.180 a little bit purposeless. Hey, hey, and welcome 00:01:04.180 --> 00:01:06.859 to the 40s Formula, your go -to place for insightful 00:01:06.859 --> 00:01:09.459 discussions on navigating the 40s and thriving 00:01:09.459 --> 00:01:12.359 in this transformative decade. We're your hosts, 00:01:12.459 --> 00:01:15.040 Jasmine and Amanda. Two women that are passionate 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:16.859 about exploring the challenges and adventures 00:01:16.859 --> 00:01:19.459 that come with turning 40 and what lies ahead. 00:01:28.099 --> 00:01:31.359 Preeti Sanjeevi is a dynamic entrepreneur currently 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:34.280 embarking on her third venture. Preeti's journey 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.420 began in the world of entertainment and digital 00:01:36.420 --> 00:01:39.219 marketing, most recently culminating in a leadership 00:01:39.219 --> 00:01:43.849 role as CEO of VML Singapore. She's now CEO and 00:01:43.849 --> 00:01:46.650 co -founder of Great, a multi -service platform 00:01:46.650 --> 00:01:50.290 serving the growing 50 -plus demographic. She's 00:01:50.290 --> 00:01:52.450 a master of scaling businesses, particularly 00:01:52.450 --> 00:01:55.769 in the complex Asian market, focusing on operational 00:01:55.769 --> 00:01:59.230 excellence and strategic growth. A problem solver 00:01:59.230 --> 00:02:02.370 at heart, Preeti thrives in fast -paced industries 00:02:02.370 --> 00:02:04.930 and brings a unique perspective to every challenge. 00:02:05.189 --> 00:02:07.799 And while she's busy building businesses, She 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:09.939 also dreams of a future filled with sandy beaches 00:02:09.939 --> 00:02:14.090 and thrilling whodunnits. So if you think about 00:02:14.090 --> 00:02:15.949 one of the reasons that Jasmine and I started 00:02:15.949 --> 00:02:18.550 the 40s formula, it's because of the dearth of 00:02:18.550 --> 00:02:20.870 good information, wellness specific to women 00:02:20.870 --> 00:02:23.689 in their 40s. And today's guest, Preeti Sanjeevi, 00:02:23.729 --> 00:02:27.289 feels exactly the same way. Her company, GREYT, 00:02:27.289 --> 00:02:31.729 G -R -E -Y -T -T, GREYT, was founded on the mission 00:02:31.729 --> 00:02:34.310 to challenge societal perceptions of aging from 00:02:34.310 --> 00:02:37.030 travel to wellness to legacy planning. Welcome, 00:02:37.189 --> 00:02:39.849 Preeti. Thank you, Amanda and Jasmine. Thank 00:02:39.849 --> 00:02:41.729 you so much for having me here. We are so happy 00:02:41.729 --> 00:02:44.969 to talk about Generation Great. I love that tagline. 00:02:45.069 --> 00:02:47.909 Who are Generation Great? Why do you think that 00:02:47.909 --> 00:02:50.250 they're important to identify and speak to right 00:02:50.250 --> 00:02:54.469 now? So Generation Great as we define it. is 00:02:54.469 --> 00:02:57.789 everybody who's, say, 50 years old to 70 years 00:02:57.789 --> 00:03:00.949 old right now. Maybe up to 75. Yeah, my parents 00:03:00.949 --> 00:03:02.789 are pretty great. I'm going to count them. Yeah. 00:03:04.210 --> 00:03:07.889 And the reason we as a company actually are focusing 00:03:07.889 --> 00:03:10.729 on them is when we look around in the world, 00:03:10.789 --> 00:03:13.349 there's a lot being created for the under 40s 00:03:13.349 --> 00:03:15.449 all the time. And there's a lot of action happening 00:03:15.449 --> 00:03:17.590 in the last decade or so for the comfort and 00:03:17.590 --> 00:03:20.629 life of 75 plus, right? So assisted living, caregiving. 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.000 great strides but then we were looking at it 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.219 and we're like 50 to 70 feels like a black box 00:03:27.219 --> 00:03:30.419 a bit ignored maybe also because it's a very 00:03:30.419 --> 00:03:33.819 transitionary time in the individual's life you 00:03:33.819 --> 00:03:36.219 go through women go through menopause men go 00:03:36.219 --> 00:03:38.319 through retirement and women go through retirement 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.500 kids leave home empty nesting happens so there 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:45.800 is a lot going on in that space where maybe it's 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.379 a time of rediscovery even for the individual 00:03:48.379 --> 00:03:52.039 and hence we feel like There's no attention paid 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.659 to that group at all. The large differences that 00:03:55.659 --> 00:03:58.840 we are seeing in generation grade, which is today's 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.159 50 to 70, which is different from, for example, 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.659 my parents, who are now 75 plus. They are coming 00:04:04.659 --> 00:04:08.759 into this life stage with a lot of enthusiasm, 00:04:08.900 --> 00:04:13.379 energy, independence. So it's not, oh, I'm retired. 00:04:13.659 --> 00:04:16.279 Life is done. Kids are settled. No, it's not 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.189 that. this is my time this is my time to do the 00:04:20.189 --> 00:04:23.629 things i never did to reinvent myself to live 00:04:23.629 --> 00:04:26.689 this life stage in the way that i want to because 00:04:26.689 --> 00:04:29.889 my responsibilities are kind of done and it's 00:04:29.889 --> 00:04:32.569 like freedom time yeah so that's what about me 00:04:32.569 --> 00:04:34.990 now that's what it should be right it's huge 00:04:34.990 --> 00:04:37.730 we're seeing that in a lot of the consumer work 00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:39.649 that we're doing right so we did a gen great 00:04:39.649 --> 00:04:43.610 study across singapore and malaysia 80 of this 00:04:43.610 --> 00:04:45.990 audience says that they're very optimistic about 00:04:45.990 --> 00:04:48.720 the next few decades that are coming their way 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.600 that's amazing you know 88 said they want to 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:55.339 reinvent themselves those very words so very 00:04:55.339 --> 00:04:58.980 different group of people yeah who are looking 00:04:58.980 --> 00:05:02.139 to live life to the fullest and hence we feel 00:05:02.139 --> 00:05:04.500 that it's important to understand them for who 00:05:04.500 --> 00:05:08.920 they are not the biggest fight we have is to 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.139 dispel the myths around what a 50 plus means 00:05:12.139 --> 00:05:15.259 we still get asked the question but can you reach 00:05:15.259 --> 00:05:17.870 them digitally They're like, this is the group 00:05:17.870 --> 00:05:20.629 of people who bought the iPhone first when it 00:05:20.629 --> 00:05:23.410 came out. That's right. I was in my 20s. I couldn't 00:05:23.410 --> 00:05:25.949 afford it. Yeah, same. I was in college looking 00:05:25.949 --> 00:05:28.790 at the iPhone. Wishing for the iPhone. I love 00:05:28.790 --> 00:05:32.009 that. Yeah. I'm like, they are very digital. 00:05:32.129 --> 00:05:33.990 They're probably the first generation that started 00:05:33.990 --> 00:05:36.889 using laptops at work. That's our biggest fight. 00:05:36.970 --> 00:05:38.790 So I think it's important to understand them 00:05:38.790 --> 00:05:41.699 for who they really are. And then say, okay, 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.180 what is it that we can create that's of value 00:05:44.180 --> 00:05:47.720 to them? I feel like when I was younger, 50 just 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.079 felt like it was so old. You know, like, fucking 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.199 hell, when I'm 50, I don't know, I'm going to 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.079 be wearing those cardigans with, like, a low 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:57.139 bun. You know, like, that kind of image. That's 00:05:57.139 --> 00:05:59.160 a very British 50. It is a very British 50. That 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:02.560 image is never going away. But now you look at 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.560 50 -year -olds, and I'm seeing, like, I've got 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.180 some cousins who are 50, and they are fucking 00:06:06.180 --> 00:06:08.259 cool. And I'm like, oh, my God, you look amazing. 00:06:09.930 --> 00:06:12.850 we're getting you know we're in our 40s yes it's 00:06:12.850 --> 00:06:16.449 like 50 is not old 50 is like oh my god i can't 00:06:16.449 --> 00:06:19.509 wait until i'm 50 i can't wait to be doing shit 00:06:19.509 --> 00:06:22.410 that makes me feel amazing like i can just imagine 00:06:22.410 --> 00:06:24.009 amanda when you're 50 you're gonna be on the 00:06:24.009 --> 00:06:26.009 pull -up bar i'm gonna say i might be a competitor 00:06:26.009 --> 00:06:27.930 in the crossfit games when i'm 50 maybe that's 00:06:27.930 --> 00:06:30.310 the age where i can actually make it high rocks 00:06:30.310 --> 00:06:33.230 has above 50 segment love it which two of my 00:06:33.230 --> 00:06:35.879 friends are competing in and they're like By 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:37.920 the way, it's a great segment to compete in because 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.040 there are only four participants. Yes. Whichever 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.939 way you look at it, you will win. That's what 00:06:43.939 --> 00:06:46.040 I'm thinking of. The older you get, the better 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:47.560 you get in a lot of ways just because of the 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.040 competition things. So what are some misconceptions? 00:06:50.180 --> 00:06:51.819 So you shared the one about, you know, that, 00:06:51.860 --> 00:06:54.120 oh, this generation, great, can't use digital, 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.160 can't use tech. What are some other misconceptions 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:58.670 that people have about that age group? The other 00:06:58.670 --> 00:07:01.569 big one is, and I'll talk to some of the areas 00:07:01.569 --> 00:07:03.810 that we've deep dived into, right? Because that's 00:07:03.810 --> 00:07:06.230 where we wanted to build services for them. So 00:07:06.230 --> 00:07:08.649 the fact that everybody thinks 50 plus means 00:07:08.649 --> 00:07:10.930 they'll be doing tour group travel. Actually, 00:07:10.970 --> 00:07:13.209 tour group travel is what I mean. Not true. Because 00:07:13.209 --> 00:07:15.810 this is a bunch of people who've done DIY travel 00:07:15.810 --> 00:07:17.930 all their lives. Their habits are not going to 00:07:17.930 --> 00:07:20.209 flip just because they turned a certain age, 00:07:20.310 --> 00:07:22.629 right? So that's the other big one. They're ready 00:07:22.629 --> 00:07:25.550 to sort of hang up their boots in the very old 00:07:25.550 --> 00:07:28.730 sense of retirement. But that's not true either. 00:07:28.850 --> 00:07:32.230 A lot of people do kind of want to walk out of 00:07:32.230 --> 00:07:36.829 the nine to five ish. corporate sector work they 00:07:36.829 --> 00:07:39.750 do want to continue contributing in some way 00:07:39.750 --> 00:07:42.629 to be professionally engaged to keep using their 00:07:42.629 --> 00:07:45.490 experience in meaningful ways at this point it's 00:07:45.490 --> 00:07:47.790 not easy to figure out what that means right 00:07:47.790 --> 00:07:50.389 for for everybody out there from everybody we've 00:07:50.389 --> 00:07:53.009 spoken to and the studies we've done more than 00:07:53.009 --> 00:07:55.769 70 are like yeah i'd like to keep working in 00:07:55.769 --> 00:07:58.089 fact even for financial reasons because we're 00:07:58.089 --> 00:08:00.529 all going to live longer yeah so we are planning 00:08:00.529 --> 00:08:05.420 for another three decades of life or more unlike 00:08:05.420 --> 00:08:07.819 before where you know you retire at 50 and by 00:08:07.819 --> 00:08:10.800 65 or 70 life is over that's not going to happen 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.420 anymore so they're like yeah even for financial 00:08:12.420 --> 00:08:15.720 reasons but mostly for purpose, to feel connected, 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:18.399 to feel relevant. That's what they're looking 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.319 for. I remember reading an article somewhere 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.540 about how when you're in your 20s and 30s, you 00:08:23.540 --> 00:08:26.060 are basically striving for like building a career, 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.800 right? So like achieving a skill or a promotion 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.060 or the next level career, right? And then by 00:08:31.060 --> 00:08:33.419 the time you get in your 40s and 50s, it's about 00:08:33.419 --> 00:08:36.259 teaching or synthesizing information or bringing 00:08:36.259 --> 00:08:39.419 expertise to the next generation. Is that something 00:08:39.419 --> 00:08:41.039 that you still see with Generation Great that 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.519 they want to kind of bring up those behind them? 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:47.200 Some of them see it as bringing up behind them. 00:08:47.220 --> 00:08:50.019 Some of them just, I feel, see it, Amanda, as 00:08:50.019 --> 00:08:53.220 I still have a lot to give. So can I keep giving 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:56.039 in some way? Whether that necessarily translates 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:59.240 into mentoring or teaching, maybe, maybe not. 00:08:59.299 --> 00:09:02.039 I think it's very personal how somebody wants 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:06.059 to do it. But a consulting gig or even lending 00:09:06.059 --> 00:09:11.019 their very professional services to, you know, 00:09:12.550 --> 00:09:15.730 nonprofit organizations that would work too and 00:09:15.730 --> 00:09:17.870 yes some of them have the ambition of saying 00:09:17.870 --> 00:09:21.889 how can my experience help the next set of people 00:09:21.889 --> 00:09:24.230 who need to run businesses or run the world or 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.779 you know, enter politics, et cetera. And I mean, 00:09:26.779 --> 00:09:29.639 our audience generally, not to say all, but lots 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:31.259 of our audience is not quite in their 50s yet. 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:32.860 So they're kind of looking at generation great 00:09:32.860 --> 00:09:36.440 from, you know, the future. And what type of 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.299 seed planting do you think women in their 40s 00:09:39.299 --> 00:09:41.840 need to really consider? So obviously us here 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.840 in the wellness industry, right? I'm always harping 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.279 on you have to get your muscle mass up in your, 00:09:47.379 --> 00:09:49.539 you know, as young as you can. You know, you 00:09:49.539 --> 00:09:51.220 have to get your nutrition habits sorted. You 00:09:51.220 --> 00:09:53.559 got to get your sleep sorted because these things 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:55.389 will come. back to haunt you in your older age. 00:09:55.470 --> 00:09:57.830 How do you encourage folks that are not yet in 00:09:57.830 --> 00:09:59.850 Generation Great to kind of prepare for Generation 00:09:59.850 --> 00:10:03.509 Great? So I'm 45, Amanda. So I have just that 00:10:03.509 --> 00:10:05.649 little bit of a ringside view to what it would 00:10:05.649 --> 00:10:09.509 mean. And interestingly, the 40s were a big, 00:10:09.509 --> 00:10:12.210 big time of change because the moment I flipped 00:10:12.210 --> 00:10:15.009 to 41, my perimenopause started. So there was 00:10:15.009 --> 00:10:18.269 a lot going on there, you know. From a wellness 00:10:18.269 --> 00:10:20.350 perspective, to your point, I think everything 00:10:20.350 --> 00:10:22.750 you've said, I can't say it better. You guys 00:10:22.750 --> 00:10:25.019 are the experts. But I think a couple of other 00:10:25.019 --> 00:10:29.580 things that I've seen my friends, my peers work 00:10:29.580 --> 00:10:33.740 towards, I think it's important to figure out 00:10:33.740 --> 00:10:38.059 what does purpose mean? And that could mean very 00:10:38.059 --> 00:10:41.220 different things for different people. Just because 00:10:41.220 --> 00:10:44.779 I think that transition from the 40s to 50s with 00:10:44.779 --> 00:10:48.980 kids growing up for most people or full time 00:10:48.980 --> 00:10:51.779 jobs becoming maybe a little bit less priority 00:10:51.779 --> 00:10:54.519 means that there is a search for relevance and 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.480 purpose that comes kind of comes up front. I 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.440 think that search for purpose. has to be done 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:03.220 with intent. The idea is not to find what you 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:05.700 want to do tomorrow. You may just say, I don't 00:11:05.700 --> 00:11:07.559 want to do anything or I want to continue doing 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:10.360 what I was doing and I'm fine or find something 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:13.000 else. But I think the intent to find purpose 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.279 and relevance needs to exist. Otherwise, sometimes 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.580 the 50s might creep up on us and then you're 00:11:18.580 --> 00:11:21.200 like, what's going on? What is my life about? 00:11:21.340 --> 00:11:25.460 And that can be very, very unnerving for anybody 00:11:25.460 --> 00:11:27.840 in general, but women, I think in particular. 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:32.159 Because the 40s are busy. The 40s are so busy 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.519 for women. And then you hit that point where 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.220 you have all this time on your hands, maybe, 00:11:37.259 --> 00:11:40.279 and you're like, okay, now it's about me. So 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:43.059 what do I want? And that can feel actually quite 00:11:43.059 --> 00:11:45.860 foreign and unfamiliar. Absolutely. Because you're 00:11:45.860 --> 00:11:49.419 not used to it. A lot of women are not used to 00:11:49.419 --> 00:11:54.600 saying, me first, my needs, what I want. So that 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.679 can feel foreign. So I think the other thing 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.049 that... I feel really, really matters is to sort 00:12:00.049 --> 00:12:03.549 of have a community really work on that, what 00:12:03.549 --> 00:12:07.009 they call tribe, because there will be situations 00:12:07.009 --> 00:12:10.690 that you cannot maneuver. You know, without three 00:12:10.690 --> 00:12:13.549 other people telling you, hey, it's okay, I've 00:12:13.549 --> 00:12:15.330 been there, we can get through this together. 00:12:15.629 --> 00:12:18.049 Amanda, I feel the older we get, the more important 00:12:18.049 --> 00:12:20.330 protein is. But the thing is, not many women 00:12:20.330 --> 00:12:22.470 are eating enough. Absolutely. And you know, 00:12:22.490 --> 00:12:24.509 protein isn't just for muscles. It helps with 00:12:24.509 --> 00:12:27.809 hormones, metabolism, staying full longer. 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You know, the vision that I was explaining 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.480 of the person with the cardigan, with the logo. 00:13:44.779 --> 00:13:48.919 They become that. My mum on the flip side is 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:50.559 completely different. I think she spent a lot 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.820 of time like, no, I'm young, you know, and like 00:13:52.820 --> 00:13:55.919 she works out. She dresses cool. In fact, I always 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:58.700 want to wear her clothes. And I feel like a lot 00:13:58.700 --> 00:14:00.720 of it does come down to mindset. And now I think 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.049 that was probably the generation before us. But 00:14:03.049 --> 00:14:06.429 are you seeing a completely different mindset 00:14:06.429 --> 00:14:09.590 shift with people of sort of our generation who 00:14:09.590 --> 00:14:13.289 are edging towards 50 or even are like just reaching 00:14:13.289 --> 00:14:16.110 their 50s now? For sure, Jasmine. There is a 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:18.850 market change, but I wouldn't say everybody has 00:14:18.850 --> 00:14:21.110 changed completely yet. It's a journey, right? 00:14:21.210 --> 00:14:23.210 And I think it's a journey for all of us. None 00:14:23.210 --> 00:14:26.269 of us have gotten there with, you know, any sort 00:14:26.269 --> 00:14:29.909 of perfection or not. And the same path doesn't 00:14:29.909 --> 00:14:32.389 work for everybody. But I think there's a lot 00:14:32.389 --> 00:14:36.529 more awareness and intent in women now to say, 00:14:36.649 --> 00:14:39.549 what do I want to do with this part of my life? 00:14:39.629 --> 00:14:41.610 What do I want to do with this life stage? How 00:14:41.610 --> 00:14:44.590 do I maximize it in ways that I maybe never thought 00:14:44.590 --> 00:14:46.929 of maximizing? They may have even had the opportunity. 00:14:47.070 --> 00:14:49.110 But like I said, life is busy and there's a lot 00:14:49.110 --> 00:14:51.490 going on. There are a lot of commitments. So 00:14:51.490 --> 00:14:55.990 without those around me, what can I make of myself? 00:14:56.210 --> 00:14:58.529 Who do I become? So there's a lot more thought, 00:14:58.570 --> 00:15:02.000 intent, discussion. including you know the conversation 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.080 we are having uh but everybody has to sort of 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:08.279 find their own own path to it you mentioned reinvent 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.620 so how do people reinvent themselves like what 00:15:11.620 --> 00:15:13.559 sort of i don't know i'm just imagining like 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.179 this transformation makeover type thing what 00:15:16.179 --> 00:15:19.360 do you see or what have you heard that people 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.600 are doing to reinvent the image that they had 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.139 of themselves before to what they want to be 00:15:24.139 --> 00:15:27.129 or how they are now I think it's both physical, 00:15:27.169 --> 00:15:30.669 mental, social, the way I see it. The physical 00:15:30.669 --> 00:15:33.450 part is a lot of what we talked about, but also 00:15:33.450 --> 00:15:35.309 what, you know, we are trying to help people 00:15:35.309 --> 00:15:39.409 with. So can I get into types of exercise and 00:15:39.409 --> 00:15:41.649 sports that I never tried before? Love that. 00:15:41.889 --> 00:15:44.590 Not just for the reasons that it's good for me, 00:15:44.610 --> 00:15:46.690 but for the reasons that I've not done it before. 00:15:46.750 --> 00:15:50.049 So let me try it. I know a lot more people in 00:15:50.049 --> 00:15:52.629 their late 40s, early 50s were taking on adventure 00:15:52.629 --> 00:15:55.009 sports because they're like. Never got the chance 00:15:55.009 --> 00:15:58.090 to do it before. YOLO, let's do it now. I'm healthy 00:15:58.090 --> 00:16:00.210 enough, so let's do it. Yeah, and we're fit enough 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:02.149 and let's do it. I think that's the other thing 00:16:02.149 --> 00:16:05.710 though, Amanda, which is there is as much as 00:16:05.710 --> 00:16:07.330 everybody knows they're going to live longer. 00:16:07.529 --> 00:16:10.129 The 50s also feels like a point where you're 00:16:10.129 --> 00:16:13.029 like, I'm going to live a bit more. But this 00:16:13.029 --> 00:16:16.590 is kind of my life stage to max out as well. 00:16:16.769 --> 00:16:19.570 I'm going to live and I'm going to live. Because 00:16:19.570 --> 00:16:22.850 who knows, right? After the 70s, 75, everybody 00:16:22.850 --> 00:16:26.029 has some, some health issues that they have to 00:16:26.029 --> 00:16:28.210 manage and, you know, sort of work through mobility 00:16:28.210 --> 00:16:30.710 issues. So they're like, okay, the next couple 00:16:30.710 --> 00:16:32.830 of decades, it's time to have fun. So that's 00:16:32.830 --> 00:16:37.129 one part of it. I think also a lot of people 00:16:37.129 --> 00:16:40.470 are working on their minds as well. And I see 00:16:40.470 --> 00:16:43.230 more and more of that around me, not just from 00:16:43.230 --> 00:16:46.470 a psychotherapy perspective, but people are getting 00:16:46.470 --> 00:16:48.970 coaches, for example, and saying, what can I 00:16:48.970 --> 00:16:52.029 do in this phase? How do I maximize myself? Who 00:16:52.029 --> 00:16:55.690 do I become? So I think that's some of the avatars 00:16:55.690 --> 00:16:58.549 that I am seeing, you know, sort of the reinvention 00:16:58.549 --> 00:17:00.370 take form in. So we were talking about, right, 00:17:00.389 --> 00:17:02.450 reinventing yourself, finding a new passion, 00:17:02.570 --> 00:17:05.529 you know, whatever. And again, the limitless 00:17:05.529 --> 00:17:07.910 possibility of that is very exciting. Yeah. But 00:17:07.910 --> 00:17:09.549 what if we paint a different picture, right? 00:17:09.630 --> 00:17:12.630 So I have spent, not me, this is a hypothetical 00:17:12.630 --> 00:17:15.490 person. I have spent my 20, I got married when 00:17:15.490 --> 00:17:18.619 I was 23. I spent my 20s raising little kids, 00:17:18.660 --> 00:17:20.119 so that's full on. You just kind of lose your 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:23.119 20s. Then I spent my 30s raising bigger kids, 00:17:23.220 --> 00:17:25.160 so being very involved with their school activities. 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:28.859 Now I'm in my 40s and again soon 50s. Everyone's 00:17:28.859 --> 00:17:31.599 flown the coop. I actually don't know what I 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:34.079 want. So all your talk about seizing what I want 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:35.900 and finally having the time, I actually have 00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:39.180 no idea because I have literally kind of disappeared 00:17:39.180 --> 00:17:41.319 myself through those generations. And I come 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.579 into my 50s actually feeling quite directionless, 00:17:43.579 --> 00:17:46.390 a little bit depressed. a little bit purposeless 00:17:46.390 --> 00:17:49.470 yes how do you how does generation great and 00:17:49.470 --> 00:17:52.130 also just you know you in general address that 00:17:52.130 --> 00:17:55.869 type of arrival at 50. yeah not not so much the 00:17:55.869 --> 00:17:58.529 seize the day as much as the what is the day 00:17:58.529 --> 00:18:02.369 yeah yeah what day is it i mean first the recognition 00:18:02.369 --> 00:18:04.589 of it let's let's take a step back right first 00:18:04.589 --> 00:18:07.049 the recognition that it's common that it happens 00:18:07.660 --> 00:18:10.720 and when it happens what is the individual's 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.160 response to it right and that differs again and 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.680 no judgment on how what it is for each person 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.180 somebody will say oh i don't know so i'm going 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:21.240 to do a hundred things to find out what works 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.380 for me someone else might be like it's so so 00:18:25.380 --> 00:18:27.380 overwhelming i don't know where to start and 00:18:27.380 --> 00:18:30.119 maybe i shouldn't start at all and both those 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.059 things happen i think they happen to all of us 00:18:32.059 --> 00:18:34.180 at different points in life as well maybe the 00:18:34.890 --> 00:18:38.569 Maybe it lands with a lot more weight in the 00:18:38.569 --> 00:18:40.869 situation that you've just talked about, Amanda. 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:44.230 So like I said, I think the first port of call 00:18:44.230 --> 00:18:48.430 has to be sort of your closest confidants. People 00:18:48.430 --> 00:18:51.230 that you can go and say to, hey, I'm feeling 00:18:51.230 --> 00:18:54.549 like this. Because typically that conversation 00:18:54.549 --> 00:18:58.349 itself will either lead to, why don't you try 00:18:58.349 --> 00:19:01.210 this and this? Or hey, you could meet somebody 00:19:01.210 --> 00:19:04.420 and get some ideas. or hey come let's brainstorm 00:19:04.420 --> 00:19:08.200 together i've seen that happen in my own life 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:11.099 at different points of time when i felt stuck 00:19:11.099 --> 00:19:14.519 uh just talking to three of my best friends and 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.680 saying i'm feeling stuck and they've i've always 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.619 come away from those conversations feeling okay 00:19:19.619 --> 00:19:21.220 maybe there's at least a couple of things that 00:19:21.220 --> 00:19:24.720 i can explore a little bit more Feel unstuck 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.720 first and then like you said Amanda It's about 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.839 you know seizing the day and all of those wonderful 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:32.940 things that tribe is really important. I think 00:19:32.940 --> 00:19:37.319 the other thing Maybe is to look at it as an 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.700 experiment It's okay to try a few things and 00:19:41.700 --> 00:19:46.359 for them not to work till you feel like yes i 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:49.220 like i like this i like what this makes me feel 00:19:49.220 --> 00:19:51.380 that could be anything it would be a new sport 00:19:51.380 --> 00:19:54.299 it could be a new job it could be a volunteering 00:19:54.299 --> 00:19:57.619 piece that you pick up you know or start a podcast 00:19:57.619 --> 00:20:02.339 doesn't matter the 50s formula yes you've got 00:20:02.339 --> 00:20:04.799 a segue you've got a segue into that let's be 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.660 a little more experimental in our approach to 00:20:07.660 --> 00:20:10.460 it It's not always easy to approach it that way 00:20:10.460 --> 00:20:13.380 because everybody's purpose and self gets tied 00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:17.619 up in it. So it's not easy to do it, but it's 00:20:17.619 --> 00:20:20.680 probably the better way to approach it to give 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.680 yourself the latitude to, you know, figure it 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.900 out. You don't have to have it figured out. It's 00:20:26.900 --> 00:20:29.579 not possible. Yeah. And I think, you know, something 00:20:29.579 --> 00:20:31.839 that comes up as a thematic with all of our conversations 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:33.900 here on the 40s Formula, right, is the letting 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:36.880 go of expectation. And that freedom that you 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:39.099 get in your 40s, right? And your midlife in general. 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:42.380 Like you said, you can try something and suck 00:20:42.380 --> 00:20:45.710 at it. And then you can try it again. And try 00:20:45.710 --> 00:20:47.890 to suck less. Yeah. Or you can not do it again. 00:20:47.970 --> 00:20:49.750 Absolutely. And say, you know, I tried and I 00:20:49.750 --> 00:20:51.549 sucked. Absolutely. It's like you can let go 00:20:51.549 --> 00:20:53.589 of the outcomes. Absolutely. At this age because 00:20:53.589 --> 00:20:55.549 you have maybe a bit more financial freedom, 00:20:55.609 --> 00:20:57.450 a bit more time, a bit more. Correct. Like you 00:20:57.450 --> 00:20:59.250 don't have to be so tied up in the expectation 00:20:59.250 --> 00:21:01.529 as you might when you have less time, less money, 00:21:01.569 --> 00:21:04.349 less resource. Most importantly, we've let go 00:21:04.349 --> 00:21:07.170 of the expectations in our own mind. Yes. Like 00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:10.609 I started playing paddle like two months ago. 00:21:10.750 --> 00:21:12.269 Padel, right? The P -A -D -E -L, right? Yeah. 00:21:12.309 --> 00:21:14.759 The paddle. That's right. I would have never 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:17.279 tried it 10 years ago. Because, I mean, I've 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.059 always liked tennis, but I've never played it. 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.579 And the first few times I played, I sucked. I 00:21:22.579 --> 00:21:25.359 mean, connecting ball to bat was such an effort. 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:28.220 Harder than it sounds, folks. Yeah. In the 20s 00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:29.700 and 30s, I would have been a little embarrassed. 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:31.519 And I would have been like, maybe not. This is 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:34.059 not for me. And now I'm like, I don't care. I'm 00:21:34.059 --> 00:21:35.980 going to keep going and keep playing. And I'm 00:21:35.980 --> 00:21:37.880 going to get better at it. And I have. Because 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:39.279 you're having fun. I played six times and now 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.319 I can play. Yeah. Amazing. So, yeah, I think 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.140 that's important, too. In our mind, say, this 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:47.599 is who we are. This is what I'm going to try. 00:21:47.740 --> 00:21:49.859 We'll see where it goes. You know, you've mentioned 00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:52.119 this theme a couple of times now, which is like 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:55.400 the path, whatever that is, looks different for 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:57.740 every individual, right? When you're developing 00:21:57.740 --> 00:21:59.599 generation, great. You know, from your website, 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:02.140 it says, you know, it's an individualized, coached. 00:22:02.349 --> 00:22:04.890 Can you share a little bit more about that, how 00:22:04.890 --> 00:22:06.930 you individualize the programming for your clients? 00:22:07.009 --> 00:22:10.829 Sure. So this is specific to Great Moves, which 00:22:10.829 --> 00:22:14.069 is a fit for 50 plus fitness solution that we've 00:22:14.069 --> 00:22:17.990 come up with. The reason for going personalized, 00:22:18.069 --> 00:22:22.809 in fact, is when we look at 50 plus and fitness 00:22:22.809 --> 00:22:27.819 as a crossover. Everybody is looking to do different 00:22:27.819 --> 00:22:31.220 things as outcomes. So true. In a more generalistic 00:22:31.220 --> 00:22:34.740 way, fitness is no longer about the vanity of 00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:38.440 it. It's also not about just medical health because 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:40.180 everybody's like, yeah, I got a couple of things 00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:41.980 that I've got to work around. You know, somebody 00:22:41.980 --> 00:22:43.920 has creaky knees. Somebody's got a back issue. 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:46.619 Somebody's, you know, got blood pressure. It's 00:22:46.619 --> 00:22:49.380 par for course. It's going to happen. So then 00:22:49.380 --> 00:22:52.380 fitness becomes about how do I stay independent 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:55.450 longer? How can I keep myself functional? And 00:22:55.450 --> 00:22:59.309 that in turn is about helping them live the life 00:22:59.309 --> 00:23:02.309 that they want. Freedom to travel, freedom to 00:23:02.309 --> 00:23:05.609 work, freedom to play, freedom to, you know, 00:23:05.630 --> 00:23:08.710 volunteer, whatever that might mean. So I think 00:23:08.710 --> 00:23:11.349 that's why we've taken a personalized approach 00:23:11.349 --> 00:23:14.950 where it's personal coaching. Our coaches are 00:23:14.950 --> 00:23:17.609 all certified fit for 50 plus. They've either 00:23:17.609 --> 00:23:19.670 been through courses or they have experience 00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:23.390 working with a certain with the segment. And 00:23:23.390 --> 00:23:27.289 even though we have methodologies, we are also 00:23:27.289 --> 00:23:30.170 looking to at some point get to a point where 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:32.730 you can have a mixed methodology option. So for 00:23:32.730 --> 00:23:35.710 the goals that you want to get to, we can give 00:23:35.710 --> 00:23:38.750 you a session of yoga, a couple of strength training 00:23:38.750 --> 00:23:41.450 sessions and a Pilates mixed in. And when you 00:23:41.450 --> 00:23:43.430 do that in combination over, say, a couple of 00:23:43.430 --> 00:23:45.750 weeks, it gets you to the goals that you want. 00:23:46.269 --> 00:23:49.410 We also approach it from a lifestyle goals perspective. 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:52.680 so not so much from fitness goals so it's not 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.619 about losing weight or building strength which 00:23:56.619 --> 00:23:58.980 will all happen as a result of doing all these 00:23:58.980 --> 00:24:01.279 wonderful things right but we are saying maybe 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:04.039 you're an avid golfer and you just want to build 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.759 strength to play longer games or more games you 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.559 might be someone who loves traveling but travel 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:13.740 does take the mickey out of you depending on 00:24:13.740 --> 00:24:15.619 you know how long the travel is and all of those 00:24:15.619 --> 00:24:17.319 things so how can we get you fitter for that 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:19.980 you could be a shopping enthusiast and that's 00:24:19.980 --> 00:24:23.619 fine that is a category on the website literally 00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:25.700 as a shopping enthusiast i was like i love it 00:24:25.700 --> 00:24:27.819 you need strong legs and you need very strong 00:24:27.819 --> 00:24:37.079 arms So we're like, let us help you build strength, 00:24:37.259 --> 00:24:40.059 build mobility, but for the things that you're 00:24:40.059 --> 00:24:43.160 so excited to do in this life stage. So I think 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:46.220 that's been our approach. It's been very appreciated 00:24:46.220 --> 00:24:49.619 so far. I think the other piece that it solves 00:24:49.619 --> 00:24:55.279 for is a lot of people who may not have. you 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.380 know, been to the gym forever in their lives. 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.160 They're a little apprehensive of engaging with 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.480 fitness itself, especially strength and weight 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.119 training, weightlifting. It feels intimidating. 00:25:05.539 --> 00:25:08.460 Imagine walking into a gym where people are doing 00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:11.380 like crazy reps. Like, oh my God, this is not 00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:14.519 for me. So the personalized approach allows for 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.000 us, for everybody to try. Because like we were 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.599 just talking, I don't think... it's about i can't 00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.619 do weight training it's about i need to do weight 00:25:22.619 --> 00:25:24.940 training the way it's right for me oh yeah in 00:25:24.940 --> 00:25:28.039 in the in the frequency in the intensity that 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.519 works for me that works around okay my knees 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.259 are not okay that's fine but i can still do several 00:25:33.259 --> 00:25:35.960 things while not stressing them out right so 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:37.859 i think that's also what we're trying to solve 00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:40.900 with the approach which is for anybody who hasn't 00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:44.759 engaged uh massively in physical physical exercise 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.779 all their lives it's a way to Start without feeling 00:25:48.779 --> 00:25:50.759 intimidated. Yeah. And I think, you know, like 00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:52.599 everyone's hearing now, you need to lift heavy, 00:25:52.700 --> 00:25:54.779 you need to do this. But lifting heavy is so 00:25:54.779 --> 00:25:56.759 different for everyone. You're not expected to 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:58.720 go out and just do 100 kilos straight off the 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:02.559 back. You have to build it up. And it might be 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.500 that five kilos is heavy for you until you build 00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:08.359 it. And does the job. It builds the strength 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.539 you need. It builds the balance you need. Exactly. 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.740 And which is why also a lot of our group classes 00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:17.269 that we have, for example, are only for 50. plus 00:26:17.269 --> 00:26:19.710 right love that so even and it's small group 00:26:19.710 --> 00:26:23.170 yeah so one it's in a setting of your peers so 00:26:23.170 --> 00:26:26.410 you don't feel intimidated two it's small groups 00:26:26.410 --> 00:26:29.329 which is a max of about eight which means even 00:26:29.329 --> 00:26:31.509 within a group our coaches can give a little 00:26:31.509 --> 00:26:33.769 bit of individual attention right they can say 00:26:33.769 --> 00:26:35.589 okay you can't do this why don't you try this 00:26:35.589 --> 00:26:37.789 version of it you can still do it but do it in 00:26:37.789 --> 00:26:40.369 a different way which is very important which 00:26:40.369 --> 00:26:44.029 then doesn't make someone go oh this is not for 00:26:44.029 --> 00:26:46.400 me That's not where we want to get to, right? 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:48.240 It is important to do these things. It's just 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.160 how do you calibrate for it? You know, representing 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:51.980 the fitness profession here, right? It's like 00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:55.039 we don't do the greatest job. Of communicating, 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.940 first of all, very technical information to the 00:26:57.940 --> 00:27:00.579 layperson. So, you know, all of us fitness elite 00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:02.420 kind of operate up here, right? Where everybody 00:27:02.420 --> 00:27:05.200 understands what 120 to 180 minutes of zone two 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.339 exercise. Of course, everyone gets that. They 00:27:07.339 --> 00:27:10.920 do not. The more lingo and jargon you use, the 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.880 less likely it is to be understood. That's right. 00:27:12.980 --> 00:27:15.019 Go pick up heavy weights. Don't want heavy weights. 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.480 You know, it's like it's immediately we set up 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.420 barriers without even realizing it with our language 00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:21.559 and our approach. And it's also the imagery, 00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:26.059 Amanda. and google deadlift today yes who do 00:27:26.059 --> 00:27:28.420 you see you're going to see someone very fit 00:27:28.420 --> 00:27:31.420 lifting something that i don't even want to be 00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:34.640 around but that's not what so when i started 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.200 my weight training i was like i do deadlift on 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.140 that machine which has springs on it because 00:27:41.140 --> 00:27:44.059 that's easier for me it bothers my back less 00:27:44.059 --> 00:27:47.279 it's not loaded up it's just like you said i 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.140 think 20 kgs but it still does the job that it's 00:27:50.140 --> 00:27:52.740 supposed to do for me so it's also that imagery 00:27:52.740 --> 00:27:55.480 and that imagery if we put the lens of 50 plus 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.680 doesn't exist yeah you're absolutely right like 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:01.339 a regular 55 year old lifting weights you won't 00:28:01.339 --> 00:28:03.599 believe it we can't find stock images yeah i 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.960 was just saying ai is where you generate those 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.079 images we are actually generating gen ai image 00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:12.000 Which is we can't find people 55 lifting weights 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.220 on any of the stock image sites. I'm hearing 00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:17.200 you. You got to dig deep even into like the Instagram 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.119 algorithm to get what you want in that regard. 00:28:19.339 --> 00:28:21.279 And again, this is something I feel very strongly 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:22.880 about with the community that I work primarily 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.180 with, which is prenatal postpartum. Like show 00:28:25.180 --> 00:28:27.900 me a pregnant lady lifting a barbell. You got 00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:30.460 to dig deep. And again, sometimes you just have 00:28:30.460 --> 00:28:33.160 to AI generate what you want it to look like 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.660 because there's so little information out there 00:28:35.660 --> 00:28:38.559 for that group. But it is what it is. Again, 00:28:38.579 --> 00:28:41.000 that's why I really love poking around your website 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.720 because the imagery that you did get, whether 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.700 AI or not, I assume it's real, it looks real, 00:28:46.779 --> 00:28:48.819 is very interesting. And again, the way that 00:28:48.819 --> 00:28:51.900 you appeal to skills and outcomes rather than 00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:54.819 weights and modalities is very, very smart. And 00:28:54.819 --> 00:28:56.559 it really connects with the consumer so much 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.859 more realistically. Thank you. the majority of 00:28:58.859 --> 00:29:00.819 what fitness culture is doing right now. Thank 00:29:00.819 --> 00:29:03.180 you. That's great to hear from a fitness professional. 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.579 Something we're doing right. I do have a question 00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:08.740 though. So when you do say over 50s, deadlifting 00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:11.200 or whatever it is, I wonder how AI generates 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.400 it because I remember seeing an article about 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.140 a woman going through, in her 40s, going through 00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:19.599 perimenopause and it was a graying old woman. 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.220 And I was like, fucking hell, is this what people 00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:23.259 think 40 year olds look like now? Also a good 00:29:23.259 --> 00:29:26.279 point. Because actually, I've seen 50 year olds 00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.400 who look, Amazing. Amazing. And you would never 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.720 think. Have you seen J -Lo? Have you seen Gwen 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.140 Stefani? No, I'm just kidding. Even outside of 00:29:34.140 --> 00:29:35.640 those ones. Let's start with those. Yeah, let's 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.559 start with the pinnacle. Oh, I'm so hungry. Oh 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.859 my gosh, same. On recording days, I am the hungriest. 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.599 GYG? Yeah, of course. What are you thinking? 00:29:45.339 --> 00:29:47.940 Should we try their new chicken rendang? Yeah, 00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:50.680 that's actually not a bad idea. It's their special 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.099 SG60 launch. Slow -cooked Guerrero marinated 00:29:54.099 --> 00:29:57.079 chicken in a rich rendang sauce with coconut, 00:29:57.299 --> 00:30:01.059 lemongrass, and over 10 aromatic spices. Sounds 00:30:01.059 --> 00:30:07.059 incredible. And it arrives so fast. Oh, wow. 00:30:07.099 --> 00:30:09.660 This is yum. Oh, this is so good. Oh my God, 00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:11.339 Amanda. I wish our audience could try this too. 00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:14.019 Actually, why don't we make that happen? Yes. 00:30:14.180 --> 00:30:16.680 So here's the deal. 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But it's true, right? Like, you 00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:58.460 know, if you were to say AI or chat GPT, can 00:30:58.460 --> 00:31:00.700 you create a 50 year old deadlifting? Are you 00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:04.740 going to get the cardigan? I think you would 00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:07.720 actually, Jasmine. We should do it. Yeah, actually 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:12.599 you would. Because even Gen AI has taken in what 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:16.200 the world already had, which means also the biases. 00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:20.920 So the 40 year old woman. This trope is just 00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.539 hilarious. Hilarious. At 50, they're like, your 00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:27.019 life is over. You have wrinkles, your life is 00:31:27.019 --> 00:31:30.059 over. Are you kidding me? My life is just starting, 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.460 actually. I mean, all of my 30s feel, frankly, 00:31:33.539 --> 00:31:36.619 like a prep for my 40s. Oh, I love that. Like, 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.000 we're all insecure and we go through so much. 00:31:39.019 --> 00:31:43.259 And yes, there's a lot of ambition, which means 00:31:43.259 --> 00:31:45.200 there's a lot of angst because you want to get 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.079 ahead on so many things in life. In the 40s, 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:54.099 just the feeling of this is who I am is so amazing. 00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:56.700 And I can only imagine that that gets better 00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:58.940 in your 50s. I'm like, if I can feel like this 00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:02.160 is 45, I'm going to feel bloody fantastic at 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.880 55 because I'll be so much, I own this and I'm 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.359 fine. I remember turning 30 and being like, oh, 00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:11.000 fuck, I'm at 1030. And it just, I just remember 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.759 feeling like. oh you know like oh this doesn't 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.019 feel good but i remember the approach to 40 i 00:32:16.019 --> 00:32:18.000 was like fuck i'm gonna be 40 and i feel great 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.519 you know yeah and again when you say 50 i just 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.200 think like oh god 50 my kids will be like able 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.400 to wipe their own ass what a glorious time to 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.339 be alive you know it's so far away right now 00:32:29.339 --> 00:32:31.220 but like that's coming right that's coming for 00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:33.279 me it's definitely coming like all three of mine 00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:37.099 are doing it so it's not too far away so pretty 00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:39.240 you you know you opened up to us that you were 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:40.980 45 so i'm not just calling you out although i 00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:43.910 did have that note in my notes. And so I want 00:32:43.910 --> 00:32:46.430 to talk a little bit about you and your entrepreneurial 00:32:46.430 --> 00:32:49.930 journey, right? So you have done 18 years at 00:32:49.930 --> 00:32:51.390 the global creative, the big global creative 00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:53.230 VML, right? So that's a big part of your career. 00:32:53.549 --> 00:32:55.710 What advice can you give to women in our age 00:32:55.710 --> 00:32:58.589 group in our early forties, right? Who have ideas 00:32:58.589 --> 00:33:01.369 and who want to explore new technologies. They 00:33:01.369 --> 00:33:03.529 want to pivot in their careers, but they kind 00:33:03.529 --> 00:33:05.950 of feel locked in. And you were there for 18 00:33:05.950 --> 00:33:08.450 years. So you know what it's like to, to feel 00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:10.839 like you're in one career and then. Yep. taking 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:12.880 something else. How did you do it? Good question. 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.380 Some of it I have answers to. Some of it was, 00:33:15.460 --> 00:33:18.259 you know, fate and serendipity and trial and 00:33:18.259 --> 00:33:20.960 error and all of those wonderful things. I loved 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.859 what I did throughout those 18 years and before 00:33:23.859 --> 00:33:28.740 that. I've enjoyed my marketing services career 00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:31.450 because it's a creative. I was not a creative 00:33:31.450 --> 00:33:34.670 person myself, but you always worked with creativity 00:33:34.670 --> 00:33:37.210 around you. So to see the outcome of the hard 00:33:37.210 --> 00:33:40.410 work always resulting in something that's a beautiful 00:33:40.410 --> 00:33:43.589 ad or a wonderful website or a fantastic app 00:33:43.589 --> 00:33:45.650 for the consumer, that was always very, very 00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:49.809 gratifying. When I was CEO for VML Singapore, 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.700 i quit with no plan in 2022 uh services business 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:55.460 had been very hard through covid and everything 00:33:55.460 --> 00:33:58.640 so i was just feeling like sort of super burnt 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.480 out at that point maybe i didn't recognize it 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:03.859 even as a burnout but i just knew that i can't 00:34:03.859 --> 00:34:07.220 keep going like this potentially so i said okay 00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:10.239 let me step away from it all a little bit and 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.219 take a breather first i had no plan because i 00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:16.940 didn't know so to your point of After an 18 -year 00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:20.440 career, I didn't know what next for myself. I 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.619 just knew that I needed to take a break and a 00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:25.300 breather. It so happened at that point of time 00:34:25.300 --> 00:34:27.320 that one of my co -founders, Rajiv, who's also 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.980 my colleague and mentor of many years from early, 00:34:31.059 --> 00:34:34.320 early VML days, approached me and said, you know, 00:34:34.340 --> 00:34:37.489 I feel like I want to do... he's 60 by the way 00:34:37.489 --> 00:34:39.969 and he said i feel like i have one startup left 00:34:39.969 --> 00:34:41.789 in me and i want to do it with people that i 00:34:41.789 --> 00:34:44.349 you know like and have fun with and that's kind 00:34:44.349 --> 00:34:47.949 of how the great great path happened for me that's 00:34:47.949 --> 00:34:49.989 why i said i don't have all the answers because 00:34:49.989 --> 00:34:52.849 i can't say it was complete intent there was 00:34:52.849 --> 00:34:55.789 some intent in saying i gotta take a breather 00:34:55.789 --> 00:34:59.309 because i feel like i can't go on this way i 00:34:59.309 --> 00:35:02.610 didn't really have a plan entrepreneurship had 00:35:02.610 --> 00:35:05.269 been in my mind for many years actually more 00:35:05.269 --> 00:35:09.309 than a decade um just never you know never got 00:35:09.309 --> 00:35:11.889 around to making that jump but your question 00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:16.969 of what can we do i think my personal thing is 00:35:16.969 --> 00:35:19.530 if you're getting the feeling that something 00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:24.630 is not working um it's hard but we gotta be brave 00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:28.000 to say let me take a step back. I think it begins 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.920 from there or take a breather. I mean, people 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.840 do it in different ways. I just quit, but people 00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.900 take sabbaticals or just take a break from work. 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.639 And all of those are good options. Or even if 00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:41.559 you're not a career person and you're looking 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.420 for that change, that's creation of space is 00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:47.760 important. Whatever that means, right? That could 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.159 just mean a vacation somewhere. It could mean 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.429 going back to your... um childhood city because 00:35:53.429 --> 00:35:56.150 that kind of brings you back to centers you back 00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:58.269 to who you are it could be many things it could 00:35:58.269 --> 00:36:00.989 be many many things so i think that taking a 00:36:00.989 --> 00:36:06.349 pause is one one part of it from a learning perspective 00:36:06.349 --> 00:36:08.690 like you talked about new technologies pivoting 00:36:08.690 --> 00:36:11.369 career there is so much information today out 00:36:11.369 --> 00:36:14.789 there that it's overwhelming so one interesting 00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:17.190 way to do it is find a couple of people who want 00:36:17.190 --> 00:36:19.750 to do the same thing with you Maybe that's an 00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:21.670 interesting way to learn. So I learned everything 00:36:21.670 --> 00:36:25.070 about Bitcoin super late in life in 2021 with 00:36:25.070 --> 00:36:27.389 a bunch of friends. And I did with a bunch of 00:36:27.389 --> 00:36:29.829 people with who I'm like, I will not mind asking 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.469 the stupidest of questions in this group. It 00:36:32.469 --> 00:36:34.789 will be fine to ask silly questions and we'll 00:36:34.789 --> 00:36:36.510 answer it for each other. And that's how we learned 00:36:36.510 --> 00:36:40.510 everything about crypto and Bitcoin investments 00:36:40.510 --> 00:36:43.110 and stuff like that. So I think finding a group 00:36:43.110 --> 00:36:46.699 that you can sort of say. let's learn together 00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:50.000 let's explore a little bit together it's not 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.039 impossible to learn it's actually very easy to 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.139 learn there is tons of options out there in the 00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:01.199 world yes finding what suits you from that can 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.679 feel a little little daunting right because there 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.880 is too much out there yeah so i think that's 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.880 that's kind of where it sits and Some of it you 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:13.139 have to allow for life to take care of you as 00:37:13.139 --> 00:37:17.039 well. Not all of it is under our control. I'll 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.079 be honest. What's that saying? Like, you know, 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.039 jump first and build a parachute on your way 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.840 down. I feel like that's what you did with putting 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.719 your job. You're like, you know what? I'm just 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.199 going to jump out the way and hope that before 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:33.000 I smash. Even though I did it with intent and 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.380 I wanted to do it, I'm not saying that that journey 00:37:35.380 --> 00:37:38.409 wasn't easy. The first six months, I was just 00:37:38.409 --> 00:37:41.289 like, what have I done? Because I've worked for 00:37:41.289 --> 00:37:43.969 22 years of my life. I'm like, I don't know what 00:37:43.969 --> 00:37:46.489 I am without a job, without a schedule, without 00:37:46.489 --> 00:37:49.570 a paycheck. That's your identity there. Yeah. 00:37:49.789 --> 00:37:51.809 I didn't know who I was. There would be days 00:37:51.809 --> 00:37:53.170 when my husband would come home and I'm like, 00:37:53.230 --> 00:37:56.840 I didn't do anything today. He's like, what do 00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.199 you mean? You survived the day. That's pretty 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.400 good. But I'm like, yeah, but I didn't do anything. 00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.159 Oh, that curse of productivity. Yeah. That is 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.360 the working woman's burden to bear. And I think 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.860 also the mother's burden to bear. Right. It's 00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:10.340 like you get home and your husband's like, what'd 00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:12.840 you do today? And you're like, I changed diapers, 00:38:13.099 --> 00:38:15.400 made food. You know, it just feels like so much 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.559 nothingness. It's a lot. Yes. But I kept this 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.699 human alive, which is, in fact, like the most 00:38:21.699 --> 00:38:24.360 productive one could be. Right. So it's a similar 00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.010 thing. that reassurance of productivity, successful 00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:30.630 women can feel lost, I do feel. I've started 00:38:30.630 --> 00:38:33.880 actually writing down every night. what have 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.260 i done today as a list look at you productivity 00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:38.619 just because i was getting to the point where 00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:40.719 i was like right i need to know that i've done 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.880 stuff and so like writing it down even if that 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.659 means just going to the gym and doing some strength 00:38:45.659 --> 00:38:47.719 training or whatever it is stuff i feel like 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.480 oh that's an achievement you know even if it's 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.219 one email that i needed to send yes i sent that 00:38:53.219 --> 00:38:55.380 email that's been lingering in my brain and i 00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:58.360 think what might feel like a nothing is actually 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.349 something when you take a step back and look 00:39:01.349 --> 00:39:03.489 at your day but I totally understand what you 00:39:03.489 --> 00:39:06.730 mean by the whole I did nothing without my job 00:39:06.730 --> 00:39:09.250 I did nothing yeah because you put all your identity 00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:12.210 everything about you was your job yeah and then 00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:14.289 all of a sudden it feels like I didn't do what 00:39:14.289 --> 00:39:17.289 I meant to do and now and when you're in it you 00:39:17.289 --> 00:39:20.690 seriously underestimate what a schedule does 00:39:20.690 --> 00:39:24.030 for you yes I was at a point in my career where 00:39:24.030 --> 00:39:27.579 I would walk into work And four hours of work 00:39:27.579 --> 00:39:29.900 are already planned for me without me having 00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:32.500 to do anything. I show up at those meetings, 00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:35.099 me being me, I'm prepared for them and I've contributed 00:39:35.099 --> 00:39:38.880 positively. That's it. My day, my month, my salary, 00:39:38.940 --> 00:39:42.099 everything is justified. But when your time is 00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:44.440 your own, it took a while to figure out that 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.440 that's a gift. It felt like a curse. It took 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.579 a while to figure out that, okay, this is a good 00:39:51.579 --> 00:39:54.880 thing because I get to choose everything I do 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.000 in a day. So now I've hit that point where I'm 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.460 like, great. If I choose not to do this meeting, 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:05.460 it's of my, it's my choice. It's my intent because 00:40:05.460 --> 00:40:08.139 it does not add to what I'm trying to build or 00:40:08.139 --> 00:40:11.099 what I'm trying to do. But yeah, it's a journey, 00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:12.760 like I keep saying. And can I be honest with 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.719 you? What you just described, right? Being in 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.980 full control of your time, taking a meeting if 00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:20.349 you want it, right? That to me is wealth. so 00:40:20.349 --> 00:40:21.530 like you know when we're talking about you know 00:40:21.530 --> 00:40:23.789 what is the what is changing in kind of the legacy 00:40:23.789 --> 00:40:26.570 planning of this generation yeah it's what is 00:40:26.570 --> 00:40:28.869 wealth it's not working yourself into an early 00:40:28.869 --> 00:40:30.849 grave so that the paycheck you bring home has 00:40:30.849 --> 00:40:34.789 more zeros no it's making the choices that sometimes 00:40:34.789 --> 00:40:37.670 feel hard like quitting your ceo job of 18 years 00:40:37.670 --> 00:40:40.289 to actually achieve what you are now and again 00:40:40.289 --> 00:40:42.710 i don't know what your paycheck was before and 00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:44.670 i don't know what it is now but i would assume 00:40:44.670 --> 00:40:47.690 that you feel just as wealthy or wealthier no 00:40:47.690 --> 00:40:50.570 absolutely it's just that we are not wired to 00:40:50.570 --> 00:40:54.309 think that way in so many ways but also the wealth 00:40:54.309 --> 00:40:58.190 of fitness for example or wellness also the wealth 00:40:58.190 --> 00:41:02.670 of mental wellness the wealth of social wellness 00:41:02.670 --> 00:41:05.070 like to have friends that you can be yourself 00:41:05.070 --> 00:41:08.340 with to have families who are supportive You're 00:41:08.340 --> 00:41:10.400 absolutely right. If we take all that into account, 00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.519 some of us are way, way more blessed than others. 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.380 Yeah, exactly. Independent of your paycheck. 00:41:16.659 --> 00:41:18.840 Well, that's actually a great segue, Preeti, 00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:20.699 into our final question for you, which is what 00:41:20.699 --> 00:41:24.019 we ask every guest here on The 40s Formula. What 00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:27.800 is your 40s formula? From your experience, how 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.480 can women thrive as best as possible in this 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.119 decade? I'll tell you what I do. And I hope that 00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.760 helps anybody who's listening to this right now. 00:41:36.019 --> 00:41:39.090 And I look at it. um again i think over the last 00:41:39.090 --> 00:41:41.289 few years i've kind of started looking at it 00:41:41.289 --> 00:41:45.130 in three three areas one is the physical uh side 00:41:45.130 --> 00:41:48.610 of things and that for me has been 30 minutes 00:41:48.610 --> 00:41:51.829 of movement every day whatever that is right 00:41:51.829 --> 00:41:53.750 and on some days it's just a walk around the 00:41:53.750 --> 00:41:55.750 you know condo that i live in and that's fine 00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:59.969 so 30 minutes uh movement every day i've started 00:41:59.969 --> 00:42:02.690 cooking and eating at home a lot more so that's 00:42:02.690 --> 00:42:05.250 that's two things that i do for physical physical 00:42:05.250 --> 00:42:08.389 side physical wellness I think from a mental 00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:11.289 wellness perspective, it has been the just owning 00:42:11.289 --> 00:42:15.789 who I am and being totally OK with it. So now 00:42:15.789 --> 00:42:19.050 I dress up or dress down for myself and I play 00:42:19.050 --> 00:42:21.690 paddle badly, but I still play. So that whole 00:42:21.690 --> 00:42:25.989 thing of I really don't care what the next person 00:42:25.989 --> 00:42:29.210 thinks. And this is about me maximizing my life 00:42:29.210 --> 00:42:31.829 that has done wonders for mental health, obviously. 00:42:32.610 --> 00:42:34.989 And I think the third part is the social wellness 00:42:34.989 --> 00:42:38.480 side of things where. you just you have to work 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.219 hard at building a community because it's not 00:42:41.219 --> 00:42:44.219 easy in today's busy lives to you know form relationship 00:42:44.219 --> 00:42:47.360 deep deep connections so i think there is effort 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.110 needed there and it's worth worth making that 00:42:50.110 --> 00:42:52.969 effort so that's that's kind of what i'm building 00:42:52.969 --> 00:42:55.789 around in my 40s i love it put in you know what 00:42:55.789 --> 00:42:57.849 you want to get out right actually make an effort 00:42:57.849 --> 00:43:02.630 physical mental social that's right well thank 00:43:02.630 --> 00:43:04.269 you so much for being with us today pretty we 00:43:04.269 --> 00:43:06.070 really enjoyed our conversation and you've given 00:43:06.070 --> 00:43:08.289 us a lot to think about for this next uh generation 00:43:08.289 --> 00:43:10.610 ahead thank you thank you myron jasmine wonderful 00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:12.949 being here and uh you guys are doing fab work 00:43:12.949 --> 00:43:15.469 i'm glad to hear that this is happening in my 00:43:15.469 --> 00:43:17.630 country and we can do more of this thank you 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:21.000 Let's be real. 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