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Would you say you're a psychic? It's intuitive.

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We work from the interface between the left logical

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side of the brain and the right intuitive side

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of the brain. And that's what we call structured

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intuition. So we're not thinking during a session,

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but we're also not just wildly going with our

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intuition. You know, it's very structured and

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it's amazing. Hey, and welcome to the 40s Formula,

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your go -to place for insightful discussions

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on navigating the 40s and thriving in this transformative

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decade. We're your hosts, Jasmine and Amanda,

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two women that are passionate about exploring

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the challenges and adventures that come with

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turning 40 and what lies ahead. Rika Hartwell

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is a certified body talk practitioner with a

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deep passion for holistic healing and mind -body

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wellness. Her journey with Body Talk began in

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2018 when she sought alternative healing for

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severe chronic pain in her pelvis. Doctors recommended

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urgent surgeries to remove her ovaries and fallopian

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tubes, but after receiving Body Talk sessions,

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her condition improved so significantly that

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the surgery was no longer needed. This profound

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healing experience sparked her fascination with

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Body Talk's innate ability to heal and led her

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down the Body Talk system in depth. In 2018 she

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has taken numerous advanced courses within the

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body talk system and has trained leading instructors.

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In 2023 she became a certified body talk practitioner

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and now offers sessions to help others restore

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balance and well -being. She currently practices

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at a wellness clinic in River Valley, Singapore.

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Sufin Pasifarang is a Singaporean -born body

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talk and mindscape instructor, practitioner,

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and former corporate executive with Marsh and

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McLennan and the AIG Group. After nearly a decade

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in the corporate sector, Sufin chose to become

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a full -time mother. In 2010, Sufin was diagnosed

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with Graves' disease and autoimmune hypothyroidism.

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This condition is a result of chronic stress

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and profound grief of losing her two -year -old

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child. Opting against lifelong medication, she

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pursued natural healing methods and was introduced

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to body talk. Experiencing significant improvements

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after just one session, Sufen achieved complete

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recovery within nine months without drugs, a

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recovery that astonished medical professionals.

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Curious about BodyTalk, she embarked in the BodyTalk

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system and advanced her studies across Singapore,

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Australia, Europe, and America. She trained directly

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under the founder, Dr. John Beltham, and now

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runs the BodyTalk Center in Singapore, where

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she offers clients sessions and also teaches

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BodyTalk and Mindscape courses. Over the past

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15 years, she has facilitated over 10 ,000 sessions.

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Healing for Sufan is more than just recovery.

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It is about the wisdom within everybody. Sickness,

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pain and suffering are not setbacks. They are

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the steps into the future of where the body is

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preparing to go. The alignment into a fulfilling

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life. Body talk. Now don't worry if you haven't

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heard of it. because I hadn't until a few months

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ago. So we have got Sufin and Reiki here to tell

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us all about it. So guys, can you tell us what

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is Body Talk? Yes. Hi. And thank you for having

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us. I think the best way to describe it is it's

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healthcare designed by your body. And that's

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what makes it so unique because if you look at

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healthcare these days, Every single time you're

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looking at symptoms or you're being pigeonholed

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by a diagnosis, you know? And so in body talk,

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we look at the whole body and we look at the

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whole picture. So what you've mentioned is health

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care designed by your body and your body is very

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unique and every body has a uniqueness based

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on your life experience. And body talk, it's

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a health care system that's looking at your life.

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It's not really looking at the illness or the

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disease because all that comes from the mind.

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And the mind comes from the reflection of how

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we look at life. And therefore in every body

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talk system, a story comes up. And therefore

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the story is unique to everybody. And when we

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dive very deeply into a person's body, their

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mind, their life, that's where the body opens

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up to looking at how it can find a strategy to

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improve life, improve health, and everything

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functions together as a whole. coming at body

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talk as a brand newbie, right? How does it differ

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from the lifestyle medicine approach, right?

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Where we're looking at the six pillars of lifestyle,

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sleep, exercise, nutrition, avoidance of risky

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substances. How does body talk fit into that

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narrative or differ? So when we look at the five

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pillars, we look at what's important to the body,

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sleep, diet, exercise, lifestyle. And then when

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we look at five pillars, we can also look at

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it as physical, mental, emotional, spiritual

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in every aspect of health it comes from somewhere

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and that some place comes from if you're not

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having enough sleep if the diet has been abused

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we're not moving not exercising and not moving

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the physical body for it to get the nourishment

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the flow the energy there is very little that

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the physical body can can do to combat life because

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we are still flesh and bones. We walk. We have

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to sit here in the podcast. We have to communicate.

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We have to do many things with different people.

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The space between us is very important and that

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requires energy. So we cannot exclude anything

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from the physical unless you're saying that you're

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God, you're deity, you're a spirit. The physical

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body is very important to look at. This is something

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that's not Considered the norm you have people

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who probably never heard of it before or if they

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have heard about it They don't actually know

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what it is. So how did you both? get into body

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talk. Like, how is, how did this become a thing

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for you guys? Yeah, Rika has a very interesting

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story to share. You're part of my story. My husband

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always tells me I overshare when it comes to

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this story, but I just want you to overshare.

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I'm going to go for it. So in 2018, I moved to

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Singapore and I had been experiencing about probably

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like 10 months of really severe chronic pain

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in my pelvis, right? And I had just been to so

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many doctors. I've been to so many gynecologists.

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I've been to A &E a couple of times. You know,

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nobody could tell me what it was. So one day

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I met my beautiful neighbor in the stairway and

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she was just like, God, you look like death.

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And she was just like, really? And she was just

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like, listen, I know you're Absolutely desperate.

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And I have no idea what I'm recommending here,

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but I went to this talk yesterday and there was

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this lady and I have no idea what she does, but

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it just sounded fascinating. So give it a go.

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So I booked my appointment and I went to see

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Sufan, not knowing what to expect. Absolutely

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no idea, but I was desperate. I lay down and

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Sufan proceeded to tell me that I had a massive

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infection in my right ovary. and told me all

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of the emotional things that had led to this

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event. And I was just like, like, I thought you'd

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Google me or look me up on Facebook. I was like,

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how can she possibly know all of these details?

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But I was like, OK. So she said, listen, you

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need to go back to a gynaecologist and you need

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to tell them to examine your right ovary. You're

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going to need surgery for this. So I was like,

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OK. So off I went and you know she did her bit

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which cleared the emotions that caused the event

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but I still it needed to be cleared up. So off

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I went and I went back to the gynaecologist and

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sure enough all of a sudden it showed up on the

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scan big time. He did not say it was an infection

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he said it was a tumor we were dealing with and

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that we needed to have surgery urgently. So I

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was like grand scheduled the surgery for in a

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few days time and went in. Had the surgery. As

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soon as I woke up, the surgeon was like, it was

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not actually a tumour. It was a seven centimetre

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abscess and it's an absolute mess inside there.

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And you were 31 and I hadn't given him permission

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to remove any of my reproductive organs, but

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He was like, it is a total mess in there and

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everything needs to be removed. He said, I'm

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going to give you three weeks to heal from this

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surgery and we're going to schedule a full removal.

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And so obviously it's just, you know, your world

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is spinning and, you know, I just didn't even

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comprehend what was happening. But, you know,

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about a week before. my surgery, five days before

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my surgery, I thought, I'm going to go back to

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that lady. You know, whatever happened was she

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knew something that he didn't even know. So I

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went back to Sue Finn and I told her the story.

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And I still remember you saying you were just

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like, he is not removing any of your organs.

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And I was like, okay. So she did her session

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and she actually gave me, you know, some tapping

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to do at home and I said to her, well, what am

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I going to do when it comes to my pre -op scan?

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And she said, don't worry, that scan is going

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to speak for itself. And I was like, like, really?

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You know, and so I brought my husband with me

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on the day because I thought I need backup. I

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don't want the surgery and I just need someone

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to stand up for me and say, I'm not having it.

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But so I went for the scan and honestly, the

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gynecologist was flabbergast. He performed the

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scan and he actually did not have words. All

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he said was, it seems that your body has taken

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care of this itself. And he couldn't explain

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it. And he said, I'm happy to let you come back

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in a week's time and we'll scan you again. And

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he did. And then I went back again two weeks

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after that and then a month after that. And I've

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never had to have the surgery. Wow. So then I

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had to go and study body talk. I can understand.

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Yeah. Would you say you're a psychic? Is there

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some kind of psychic? It's intuitive, intuitive.

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So, you know, in body talk, we use this thing.

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It's called structured intuition. Right. And

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so in comparison to other modalities where they

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will heal you and they will use their intuition

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to heal the body. And it's in body talk, we use

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this thing called structured intuition, where

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we use this the left logical brain to learn this

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protocol chart that we have. OK, so it's this

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map. of the entire body -mind complex. It has

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every single detail that you will find in your

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entire body -mind there. And we learn that so

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we know it in our sleep. It is in there without

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any shadow of doubt. And then we've got our right

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side, our intuitive side of our brain, okay?

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And so we engage that intuitive, that intuition.

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to guide us through that protocol chart and how

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we do it as practitioners, we're trained to work

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from our alpha state of mind during a session.

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And the alpha state of mind is the same state

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of mind that you enter during meditation. So

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as we do that, we work. from the interface between

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the left logical side of the brain and the right

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intuitive side of the brain. And that's what

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we call structured intuition. So we're not thinking

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during a session, but we're also not just wildly

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going with our intuition. You know, it's very

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structured and it's amazing. Amanda, I feel the

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shop. So I had a couple of sessions with Reiki

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and I remember one of the sessions you said to

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me, I'm getting anemia. And at the time I was

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going through something and I felt like shit

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and I... I did have a doctor's appointment booked,

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I think, for the next couple of days. Lo and

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behold, I went and Dr. Lim said to me, you need

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an iron infusion. And I was like, what the hell?

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Like, how did she know? And it's weird. And then

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my husband was like, did she Google you? Did

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she? I never mentioned, there's nothing. You

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can Google me. There's nothing that says that

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I've... I had to say, yeah. How does that even

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work? And so, Sifan, what about your story? How

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did, I mean, you started decades ago and I hadn't

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even, like I said, since I only found out about

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this a few months ago when I... And I only found

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about it when you told me. Exactly. So how did

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this come about for you decades ago? How I found

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what you talk was through a very sudden autoimmune

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condition. I was struck with autoimmune disease

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called GRIMS, hyperthyroidism. you know, overactive

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thyroid. And at that point of time, my heart

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was racing at 100 beats per minute at rest when

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I'm sleeping. And when I would walk, talk, or

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get angry, it goes up to 180 degrees. I was literally

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hyperventilating all the time. And doctors, in

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short, wanted to remove the thyroid because my

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heart would not be able to take it. for very

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long. The whole complex of how medicine works

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and the symptoms, it did not convince me it was

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the right course of action. So intuitively, it

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felt like no. And I was quite fortunate because

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my friend said to me, Stephen, you should go

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and try this thing called Boy Talk. And in desperation,

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when there's nothing else in this world that

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can actually give answers, the openness to try

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everything is there. And I tried it. And after

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the first session, my thyroid took a change.

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And within the first session and two weeks after

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the first session, I saw the doctor. And when

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he examined me, he said the blood flow, the thyroid

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has reduced. And he said that it means that there's

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some improvement. But because the blood test

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was still pretty much quite high. He still insisted

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on surgery and medication. And I said to him,

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give me a bit of time to think about it. And

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within six months, all the symptoms disappeared

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without drugs. Just with two sessions of boy

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talk a month and a total of nine months, all

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the autoimmune markers turned off. That's incredible.

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It's like zero, not even 0 .002. It's a zero.

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And Just like Rika, everyone learns boy talk

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because there's something miraculous, magical

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that happens to your own body that you cannot

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explain, but yet you feel so, so different with

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it. And you just have to look for it because

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something has opened up in the whole unexplained.

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Something has opened up. you know, in a way you

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cannot explain. So you would definitely go look

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for the explanation because the logical mind

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cannot rest without understanding it. So like

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everyone, I took the class, I took everything

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and I had no intention of teaching. I just took

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it for my own interest. But you know, one thing

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led to the other. You cannot learn this without

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practicing it. Because if To understand ourselves,

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we have to first understand how the system works.

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And we learn it through the lens of another person,

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the body of somebody else. And bit by bit as

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we explore and we observe, we find a different

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dimension of life that we can never reverse back

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from it. You talked about structured intuition.

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And obviously the two of you sitting before us

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are female. And we always hear about women's

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intuition. Are there male practitioners of body

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talk? Absolutely. And how do you think that there's

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a way to teach intuition? So you mentioned there's

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a class, you mentioned there's a protocol. Can

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you enlighten us into how structured intuition

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is made into a curriculum? So structure intuition

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means when we look at the left logical mind or

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left logical brain, whatever you have learned

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in your life, whether your bachelor's degree

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all the way to your PhD, or the insurance and

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certificates that you have learned, life lessons

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that your parents have taught you, that is inventory

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in your left brain. We use it all the time. And

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that keeps us safe. It is a parameter of safety,

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the boundaries. The right brain is creative,

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imaginative, is intuitive. That's the brain that

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was first developed when we were babies. Because

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when you're a baby, you can't see. You can only

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see up to a certain distance. The eyes don't

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see. And therefore, they can see through the

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clairvoyant sense of visualization, smell, touch,

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taste. And all those intuitive senses from age

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0 to 2 years old are the highest. We are born

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with it. When a baby is born, we always say that

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the ability to sense where mother is. I'm hungry.

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How do I call for help? I have a dirty diaper.

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What do I do? So there is a lot of instincts

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that is in there from the beginning of our lives.

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But after 2 years old, we start to learn math.

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alphabets, reading numbers, and we develop the

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left brain. So the right brain has always been

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there. The left brain then started to come up

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and we are very much taught in school how to

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develop the right, sorry, we've always been taught

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in school to develop the left brain. So when

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you talk about men and women, the only difference

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between why there are more women that... take

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boy -talk classes and lessons is because women

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are more open to things that are a little bit

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different. Men, they are very logical because

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that's the way they are. They're very structured.

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They are, you know, structured, strong, and they

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need a very logical process in order to make

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money and provide. But it does not mean that

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men cannot do this. It just means that they need

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to take a little bit more time. In my last Mindscape

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class, my Intuition class, I have 60 % women,

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40 % men. There are classes whereby I have more

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men than women. And only my private Mindscape

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classes are only men. How interesting. So it's

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not to say what it is. I think in this day and

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age, the senior leaders, the senior executives,

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they are actually now told There's some part

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that's not physical that has to be looked at.

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So what I understand from body talk is the body

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is meant to heal itself. But then obviously sometimes

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disease can manifest or an illness can manifest.

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Why does this happen? Why is the body then not

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able to heal from it? We all know the body is

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instinctively designed to heal. And it's always

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trying to get back to that state of balance and

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that perfect state of healing. But for that body

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to self heal, it needs to have constant communication,

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right? All the cells in the body need to communicate

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with every other cell, right? When life happens,

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stress happens, you know, and like stress can

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be anything. It can be like, it can be physical

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stress. It can be an injury. It can be emotional.

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It can be chemical. It can be an infection, right?

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When that happens, it disrupts that flow of energy

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and that communication. let's say the nervous

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system was like this giant highway right and

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we have constant messages running up and down

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they're traveling up and down between the body

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and the brain all of the time but then say stress

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happens it's like there's a traffic jam or there's

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roadworks and it slows down that communication

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and and so therefore you know things aren't functioning

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exactly as they should and then you know over

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time it causes tension in the body, it's building

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up, right? It's not healing as it should, so

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it's building up. It can cause tension, pain,

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you know, sleep disturbances, anything, really

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digestive issues, even like it affects your immune

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system. So it disrupts that communication. And

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then even trauma is even worse. You know, trauma

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is like. It totally disrupts. It's like a sinkhole

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in the highway, you know, and it's completely

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impassable and a traumatic event. It's taken

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by the body and it is stashed away. It cannot

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deal with this right now. I need to function.

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I need to continue to perform and it stashes

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it away. But those events still continue to affect

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our health. for years after the event has passed

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and in ways that we don't even realize. We do

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not make the connection because it is hidden

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away. And, you know, so that's where body talk

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comes in and it shines a light on these things

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because these things need to be addressed. You

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know, and that's what symptoms are telling us

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is the body screaming, saying there's something

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that needs to be addressed. Put their hand up.

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I need I need to. Deal with this. Exactly. You

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know, it's time to look at this now, you know?

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So that's how Body Talk helps to shine a light

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on these things again. And then when we bring

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it to the awareness again, we can. It's like

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the missing piece of the puzzle. We can help

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that energy to flow again, because we've got

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all the details that we need. So it's not that

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you're not supposed to get sick and you're not

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supposed to have these issues. It's more so that,

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yes, you may get sick, but you should be able

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to heal from it. So that's. And it's the disruption

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to that communication, which is not helping you

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get better. OK, that makes sense, because I guess,

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you know, a lot of people might think, oh, you

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know, should I be 100 percent healthy all the

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time and nothing's not possible? Exactly. Yeah,

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it is what we call we call this a belief system

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that health comes from having no illness. Yeah.

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But in order for life to change, like if you

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are in the road of always working and very stressed

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and we neglect a few things in life that's important.

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Life will throw us illnesses because that's the

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only thing that makes us pay attention to ourselves.

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Yeah, that's like a slow down, needs to take

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it easy now. There's always a message in it,

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always. And it's really weird because I actually

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was having a conversation with a client the other

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day and she told me how she's had a crazy first...

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part of the year that's obviously what six weeks

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or whatever it is and then she goes out on top

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of that now i'm sick and my response was i'm

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guessing you're sick because yeah you need to

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slow down so how does body talk differ from like

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holistic healing or or reiki or energy healing

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sound baths all of those types of modalities

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is there a difference I mean, there's many differences

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probably. I think it's in the details. I don't

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know what you think, you know. They are all good.

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They're all good. They have their departments.

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The difference with Boy Top because our slogan

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is whole health care means it encompasses anything

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and everything. It's so difficult to explain

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how much we can cover. It's easier to tell you

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what we don't cover in Boy Top. So we cover everything

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except If a person is born with a genetic illness,

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Boitok cannot create that one more chromosome.

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And Boitok cannot change agenda because whatever

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makeup we are born with that is what we are meant

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to live our life with. We are however able to

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deal with all the symptoms that comes out from

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those conditions. So we can deal with everything

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as long as it's not part of that genetic makeup.

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So, when we look at any kind of health issue,

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okay, we are literally a health care system because

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if you come for a boy talk session, the intake

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form literally asks you for all your health details.

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What are your last blood tests, scans, any illnesses

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in the last few months? I'm not asking you for

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your mental and emotional state of mind. I'm

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also not looking at what has happened in your

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life, your family or whatever. You go straight

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medically to your health condition, nothing else.

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You talked about symptoms and a significant time

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that some women experience symptoms would be

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during perimenopause. It could be anything from

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hot flashes, to rage, to joint pains. Can body

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talk help women? Because from obviously the way

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we see it, it's a transitional period that every

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woman will go through in some stage of her life.

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And so it seems like it's very normal. But obviously

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the level of symptoms can change based on the

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individual person. How can body talk be utilized

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there? Can it be utilized there? You know, the

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way I see it is women these days, we have severe,

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we have much worse symptoms of perimenopause

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than we did in generations before. Right. And

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there's all this mystery like why I personally

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think that we live in. Such a toxic age, like

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let's call it that, you know, and I'm not just

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talking chemicals or whatever, it's also stress,

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you know, it's just, I feel like when we as a

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generation come into our forties, our buckets

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are full, right? We're coming in with a full

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load. And so then when the inevitable is going

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to happen, we're going to be on this roller coaster

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of hormones and it's going to throw us because

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we're, we're maxed already, you know? And so

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For me, one of the massive ways and in which

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we have loads of people that come to us with

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perimenopause symptoms. We help in the way that

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we have to clean out the system, you know, so

00:27:17.779 --> 00:27:20.099
we're like that bucket that's full. We're helping

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to remove some of those, whether it's toxins

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and, you know, whether it's from the diet or

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it's stress, whatever it is, we're helping to

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reduce that load so that when inevitably, you

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go through that roller coaster, you are able

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to adapt to that and you're able to deal with

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it much better. Yeah, it's absolutely right and

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true. So I'm going to put in a little bit more

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medical perspective. Think about your mom, your

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grandparents, all the women in the ancestral

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line. You never heard of this thing called the

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severe perimenopausal symptoms and all that.

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Because when we look at men and women in times

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before, Men go out to work, women stay home and

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look after family. They only have one task to

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do. And that is a very big task. I cannot say

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it's only one task to do, sorry. So talking about

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when you said men and are they open to intuition

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and everything, what people don't realize is

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this. The masculine is spiritual. The feminine

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is earthly. And what happens is, Working, we're

00:28:29.849 --> 00:28:31.710
looking after our children, we have families,

00:28:31.849 --> 00:28:34.450
we do much more than just being at home and taking

00:28:34.450 --> 00:28:37.630
care of our families. The physical body for women

00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:41.089
is not meant to go out because the structure

00:28:41.089 --> 00:28:43.990
of how God created men and women are women supposed

00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:47.009
to be at home. But if you now place women who

00:28:47.009 --> 00:28:50.549
are highly capable in being able to go on into

00:28:50.549 --> 00:28:54.529
the workforce, they take very high -level executive

00:28:54.529 --> 00:28:58.809
roles. In life, they are under C -level. What

00:28:58.809 --> 00:29:01.250
happens in the body is there's a part of the

00:29:01.250 --> 00:29:03.250
body that needs to create a lot of testosterone

00:29:03.250 --> 00:29:07.509
and that's the adrenal. So adrenals are a very

00:29:07.509 --> 00:29:10.990
important part of the human body because they

00:29:10.990 --> 00:29:15.890
have to secrete adrenaline and cortisol, but

00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:19.210
they also increase the body's testosterone. So

00:29:19.210 --> 00:29:21.730
when women do a lot of exercise they get testosterone

00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:24.289
and that gives them the energy to go out and

00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:27.000
fight. out there in the world. So when women

00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.519
go through the periods of perimenopause, I'll

00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.519
tell you what happens. The ovary slowly declines.

00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.339
Like every part of the body, it slowly declines.

00:29:37.779 --> 00:29:40.380
What happens is the adrenals are supposed to

00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:43.299
take over that function to increase the female

00:29:43.299 --> 00:29:46.640
hormones that the ovaries are now depleting.

00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:50.240
But if they are so busy going out to fight the

00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.799
world, we don't have that balance. So it's very

00:29:53.849 --> 00:29:57.329
easy to actually treat perimenopause in voyeur

00:29:57.329 --> 00:30:00.930
talk because we are not looking at only the physical,

00:30:01.009 --> 00:30:03.509
we're looking at the way the mind goes out to

00:30:03.509 --> 00:30:07.930
look into what a person's stress factors are

00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:11.160
out there. If we can mitigate the stress factors

00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.380
in the environment, the mind naturally slows

00:30:14.380 --> 00:30:17.819
down. It calms down that stress. The physical

00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:20.359
body then does not feel it has to fight so hard.

00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.599
The adrenals balances. And when the adrenals

00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.539
balances, all the symptoms will balance. Do you

00:30:27.539 --> 00:30:30.819
see a trend in the types of symptoms that women

00:30:30.819 --> 00:30:33.940
in their forties might experience? Is there like

00:30:33.940 --> 00:30:36.549
a... a few things that you see again and again,

00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:40.329
or does it really depend on the individual? 100%.

00:30:40.329 --> 00:30:42.730
There is a trend, I would say. Absolutely. Yeah.

00:30:42.950 --> 00:30:49.549
Lots of sleep disturbances, anxieties, irritability,

00:30:50.890 --> 00:30:53.349
just fatigue, or even like loss of libido, you

00:30:53.349 --> 00:30:55.630
know, and not just sexually for life, like to

00:30:55.630 --> 00:30:58.509
just feel like they're just don't have the juice,

00:30:58.509 --> 00:31:02.000
you know, that they need to face. Life at the

00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.720
moment, yeah, for sure. And those are identical

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:06.599
to perimenopause symptoms, right? So it's like,

00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.759
you know, these presenting symptoms are absolutely

00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.000
the same. A hundred percent. Everyone actually

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.019
don't realize that there are perimenopause in

00:31:14.019 --> 00:31:17.500
nature. So sleeplessness, anxiety, the common

00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:19.839
one is joint pain. So they can feel the physical

00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.400
therapist and it's not working. I soon remember

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.099
with a frozen shoulder. They've been diagnosed

00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:28.519
with frozen shoulder, but it's not frozen. It's

00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.059
the libido has frozen for a while. That's what

00:31:31.059 --> 00:31:33.440
it is. And at the end of the day, when we look

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.680
at libido, that is the pulse of life. It's the

00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:41.359
ability to enjoy life and go out there and embrace

00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.740
life. And the frozen shoulder and joint pains

00:31:44.740 --> 00:31:48.599
are literally the symptoms of perimenopause because

00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.039
we are pausing something. in life that we actually,

00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.380
it's not a pause, it is a new beginning, it's

00:31:55.380 --> 00:31:57.980
a transition. But we look at it as always the

00:31:57.980 --> 00:31:59.779
end of goodbye, but it's actually the beginning

00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:03.119
of the age of wisdom. I love that. The age of

00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.000
wisdom. We need to put that on a bumper sticker.

00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.359
I have a question again, not having gone through

00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.160
body talk. So unlike Jasmine, I actually have

00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.220
not gone through a body talk session. Is there

00:32:12.220 --> 00:32:14.400
an element of prescription that happens after

00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.180
that? So do you go through the session and then

00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:18.859
you say, now until our next session, work on

00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:21.779
XYZ? Or is it more like you go through the session,

00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.359
something is cleared or something is attended

00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.359
to. And then that allows the person to then,

00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.119
you know, perhaps like, you know, the way that

00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:31.400
I'm thinking about this, right, is someone comes

00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.519
to see me at the metabolic health clinic. I say,

00:32:33.619 --> 00:32:35.460
OK, I'm going to prescribe for you this exercise

00:32:35.460 --> 00:32:38.799
program, this nutrition program, this level of

00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.319
sleep, this level of hydration. Right. So they

00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:41.779
leave with this little lifestyle prescription.

00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:44.940
How do you leave your clients after the session?

00:32:45.220 --> 00:32:49.859
Do you give them homework? I don't. But you could.

00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.700
You know, my whole time, I've never ever, you

00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:57.240
know, given tapping, but you did that time when

00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.960
you had to work a miracle with me. You gave me

00:32:59.960 --> 00:33:03.279
tapping. But that was a very, very unique case.

00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.140
When the case is very mental and emotional, there

00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:09.980
is no homework to be given because it's not a

00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:13.559
physical body issue. The mind shifts and everything.

00:33:13.950 --> 00:33:16.829
just like that. It shifts very fast. Boy Talk

00:33:16.829 --> 00:33:19.150
is a very quick system. If you're looking for

00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:21.049
a hard -working solution to solve your problem,

00:33:21.150 --> 00:33:23.670
don't come from Boy Talk. Boy Talk is very fast.

00:33:24.089 --> 00:33:27.609
However, if it is a physical issue that requires

00:33:27.609 --> 00:33:30.450
a little bit time for the physical body to change

00:33:30.450 --> 00:33:32.690
because the physical body is very stubborn, there

00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:35.990
are many different scenarios that can happen.

00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:39.809
And it's very unique to each and every person.

00:33:39.829 --> 00:33:42.950
So if a person has an infection, I would usually

00:33:42.950 --> 00:33:45.559
say, The body is going to rev up in terms of

00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.640
the immunity. What can help it is water and sleep

00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:53.140
and sunshine. So those are the simple prescriptions

00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:56.859
I give. When I told Rika to do tapping, it's

00:33:56.859 --> 00:33:59.380
because when you tap, you are synchronizing the

00:33:59.380 --> 00:34:02.500
brain to look at a certain area of the body and

00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:05.700
treat it. That means you keep reminding the body,

00:34:05.980 --> 00:34:07.700
you have to look at this, you have to look at

00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:09.800
this, you have to look at this, you don't forget

00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.389
about this. fix it right now and don't forget

00:34:13.389 --> 00:34:16.750
about it. So when we say what kind of prescriptions,

00:34:16.889 --> 00:34:20.409
we have very little, very little prescriptions

00:34:20.409 --> 00:34:22.889
or homework, because the body is so intelligent,

00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:25.750
there's very little we need to do. Unless the

00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:27.429
client is very stubborn and doesn't want to do

00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:30.730
anything to change their life, I would induce

00:34:30.730 --> 00:34:33.989
a prescription or a homework to do. For example,

00:34:34.710 --> 00:34:38.269
when people come from Bony Talk and there is

00:34:38.269 --> 00:34:41.920
a physical health issue, that comes from lifestyle

00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:46.480
diet. I cannot say let's tap and then you continue

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.440
your diet and sedative lifestyle and you hope

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.800
the body will lose weight. It doesn't happen

00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.239
that way. But with weight loss, for example,

00:34:57.460 --> 00:35:00.880
what body talk can do is it can balance the chemicals

00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.489
in the body to help present to you. not crave

00:35:03.489 --> 00:35:06.170
the sugar and the carbohydrates and allow the

00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:08.090
stomach to signal to the brain, that's enough,

00:35:08.110 --> 00:35:10.829
you can stop now. And so the diet in terms of

00:35:10.829 --> 00:35:14.030
calories naturally shrink. However, in cases

00:35:14.030 --> 00:35:17.429
like weight loss, I usually tell the client to

00:35:17.429 --> 00:35:21.969
drink more water, to focus on what they're eating

00:35:21.969 --> 00:35:24.789
and think what they're eating. It's just intuitively

00:35:24.789 --> 00:35:27.170
right for them. So those are the little bit of

00:35:27.170 --> 00:35:30.289
homework that I would give them. But it's normally

00:35:30.289 --> 00:35:32.809
not anything major. I don't prescribe medicine.

00:35:32.869 --> 00:35:36.429
I don't prescribe a lifestyle. I try not to change

00:35:36.429 --> 00:35:39.210
the diet and lifestyle as much as possible because

00:35:39.210 --> 00:35:43.110
that's not my department. Oh, I'm so hungry.

00:35:43.289 --> 00:35:45.250
Oh my gosh. Same on recording days. I am the

00:35:45.250 --> 00:35:48.269
hungriest. GYG? Yeah, of course. What are you

00:35:48.269 --> 00:35:52.250
thinking? Should we try their new Chicken Rendang?

00:35:52.489 --> 00:35:55.190
Yeah, that's actually not a bad idea. It's their

00:35:55.190 --> 00:35:59.030
special SG60 launch. Slow cooked Guerrero marinated

00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:02.070
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00:36:02.349 --> 00:36:06.070
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00:36:06.070 --> 00:36:11.889
incredible. And it arrives so fast. Oh, wow.

00:36:11.889 --> 00:36:14.730
This is yum. This is so good. Oh, my God, Amanda.

00:36:14.869 --> 00:36:17.010
I wish our audience could try this, too. Actually,

00:36:17.090 --> 00:36:19.750
why don't we make that happen? Yes. So here's

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00:36:57.900 --> 00:37:00.820
but only until May 4th. You mentioned tapping.

00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.659
What is tapping? How does it work? And can we

00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:07.059
do it on ourselves? Is it for everyone? You must

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:08.639
do it on yourself, right? I'm actually not sure.

00:37:09.539 --> 00:37:12.500
Can someone else tap you? In an in -person session,

00:37:12.579 --> 00:37:15.090
we do tapping. But when we do a remote session,

00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:17.590
we don't do tapping. If you do it yourself, then

00:37:17.590 --> 00:37:19.590
why couldn't you do it in a remote session? So

00:37:19.590 --> 00:37:21.489
in a remote session, the client has to do their

00:37:21.489 --> 00:37:24.710
own tapping or the practitioner can do tapping

00:37:24.710 --> 00:37:28.210
on practitioner's body, but focus on the client.

00:37:28.349 --> 00:37:32.030
We can do it. But tapping is once you understand

00:37:32.030 --> 00:37:35.010
what's tapping, you also understand how the boy

00:37:35.010 --> 00:37:39.860
can can rewire. The tapping is optional. Tapping

00:37:39.860 --> 00:37:43.460
is important because tapping helps us to focus

00:37:43.460 --> 00:37:46.340
on what we're looking at. So if I'm looking at

00:37:46.340 --> 00:37:48.940
the right ovary, I'm going to tap and tap and

00:37:48.940 --> 00:37:53.420
tap on the ovary. And that allows the body and

00:37:53.420 --> 00:37:56.820
mind to connect. It's a connection. It's a way

00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:59.820
to connect what we're trying to do in the observation.

00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.179
But there are so many more things that goes on

00:38:04.179 --> 00:38:06.760
before the tapping. Tapping is the last part

00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.809
of it. And when we say, I prescribe tapping for

00:38:09.809 --> 00:38:13.809
my client to do, it's only so that they can remember

00:38:13.809 --> 00:38:16.989
what was done during the session so that they

00:38:16.989 --> 00:38:19.650
continuously remind the body, this is what I'm

00:38:19.650 --> 00:38:22.789
healing. We don't give drugs. We don't give you

00:38:22.789 --> 00:38:25.750
any tools to bring home. It is so intangible.

00:38:25.769 --> 00:38:28.250
You can go home and you can forget what happened

00:38:28.250 --> 00:38:30.909
in the session. But tapping is a very subtle

00:38:30.909 --> 00:38:34.369
way of helping you to remember, okay, I'm fixing

00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:36.829
this part of the body. It's going to get better.

00:38:36.989 --> 00:38:39.469
this is going to happen to me after that. So

00:38:39.469 --> 00:38:42.369
that's tapping. For viewers sake, I think, you

00:38:42.369 --> 00:38:44.610
know, you need to explain to them what you do

00:38:44.610 --> 00:38:50.190
in tapping. OK, so when we tap, it's at the end

00:38:50.190 --> 00:38:53.150
of a session. During the session, as I explained,

00:38:53.230 --> 00:38:57.349
we will use structured intuition and that structured

00:38:57.349 --> 00:39:00.130
intuition will give us a story. You know, it'll

00:39:00.130 --> 00:39:03.210
give us some items and details. And we call this

00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:07.110
a body talk formula. So once we have discovered

00:39:07.110 --> 00:39:10.090
or unearthed, you know, this this story, this

00:39:10.090 --> 00:39:14.670
formula to make energy flow again, what we do

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:16.690
is then we hold focus, right? As practitioners,

00:39:16.869 --> 00:39:18.690
we really hold focus on everything that we've

00:39:18.690 --> 00:39:22.010
just found and we tap the head. And so that's

00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:24.789
our obviously our head brain, our brain. We tap

00:39:24.789 --> 00:39:26.829
on the head. And what we're saying to the head

00:39:26.829 --> 00:39:31.260
is conscious awareness, pay attention. pay attention

00:39:31.260 --> 00:39:34.179
to what we have just unearthed from the subconscious

00:39:34.179 --> 00:39:37.199
here. So we're saying head, brain, pay attention.

00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.320
We tap on the heart and the heart is going to

00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.179
store those changes. So you don't walk away after

00:39:44.179 --> 00:39:46.360
that session and everything goes back to how

00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.880
it was. The heart is responsible for storing

00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.059
all of those changes that we've just implemented.

00:39:51.530 --> 00:39:54.889
And the gut brain, which is so important, goes

00:39:54.889 --> 00:39:57.510
off and implements everything. It actually is

00:39:57.510 --> 00:39:59.969
the doer. It's saying go now and do everything

00:39:59.969 --> 00:40:02.670
that we've just laid out in front of you. So

00:40:02.670 --> 00:40:05.130
the three brains are tapped because they all

00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:08.289
have their own function. And again, as Sufan

00:40:08.289 --> 00:40:11.409
said, when she told me to tap after my session,

00:40:11.469 --> 00:40:14.670
that was reminding my body everything that we

00:40:14.670 --> 00:40:17.309
did in that session. We're reminding heal. You

00:40:17.309 --> 00:40:19.309
need to heal. You've got one purpose at the moment.

00:40:19.530 --> 00:40:21.889
So it's almost like the function of Shavasana

00:40:21.889 --> 00:40:24.010
in a yoga practice in a way. It's like that's

00:40:24.010 --> 00:40:25.849
the moment of absorption of the practice. And

00:40:25.849 --> 00:40:28.250
if you, you know, if you need to kind of let

00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:30.349
all the lessons of the practice sink into your

00:40:30.349 --> 00:40:33.050
body, that's the time at which that occurs. That's

00:40:33.050 --> 00:40:40.269
it. That's the only thing I remember. Do you

00:40:40.269 --> 00:40:44.179
find that people have worse symptoms? the stronger

00:40:44.179 --> 00:40:47.820
the trauma or the emotional response or the emotional

00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:51.400
struggle that they've had. We as human beings,

00:40:51.579 --> 00:40:56.139
right, we all have an amazing threshold, actually,

00:40:56.340 --> 00:40:58.860
you know, to deal with things and our body, as

00:40:58.860 --> 00:41:00.719
I said, it'll always try and calibrate and come

00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.239
back to balance. We encounter things and it's

00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:05.480
always going to do its best to come back to the

00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.699
state of balance and the state of healing and

00:41:07.699 --> 00:41:12.079
calm. So we can encounter so many things. And

00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.940
then there's a threshold, you know, and then

00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:19.980
it seems like this incident is what caused the

00:41:19.980 --> 00:41:22.800
symptoms or the illness to occur. But actually,

00:41:22.820 --> 00:41:26.199
it's a backlog of issues. So a lot of the time,

00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:30.840
yes, you know, when people have this severe situation

00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.760
that they come with. and you dig deeper, it turns

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.360
out that it is a catalogue of things, you know,

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.940
that have a long list of things that have happened

00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:42.239
throughout their life that have led to them not

00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.739
being able to deal with it anymore. So in some

00:41:44.739 --> 00:41:47.900
sense, yes, but you know, it's always small events

00:41:47.900 --> 00:41:51.059
add up. The physical body and the symptoms are

00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:54.820
a reflection of the mind. A person with a very

00:41:54.820 --> 00:41:57.340
simple thought process will usually have very

00:41:57.340 --> 00:42:01.619
simple symptoms. The person that has very complexities

00:42:01.619 --> 00:42:05.260
and a person with complexities in the way they

00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:08.280
think naturally exhibit very complex health issues.

00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:11.340
So we look at the brain like a computer CPU.

00:42:11.619 --> 00:42:15.500
If the computer is VGA mode, a very ancient type

00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:18.739
of computer system, very simple, they have simple

00:42:18.739 --> 00:42:21.800
issues because that's the way the brain is able

00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:26.239
to regulate. And the universe never going to

00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.780
give them much more than what they can handle.

00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.019
However, in a more sophisticated brain, when

00:42:33.019 --> 00:42:36.780
the person's thinking in very wide multitudes

00:42:36.780 --> 00:42:40.619
of processes, the illness that comes into the

00:42:40.619 --> 00:42:43.719
body is very, very complex. But when you say

00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.539
which kind of body can heal faster, it's not

00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:51.000
about how complex the illness is, but how open

00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.809
the mind can be to change. And a person with

00:42:55.809 --> 00:43:00.030
very complex health issues, if they are able

00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:05.190
to turn on the mind to looking at things in a

00:43:05.190 --> 00:43:07.630
flexible and adaptable way, looking at it in

00:43:07.630 --> 00:43:12.909
a very creative and imaginative way, the body

00:43:12.909 --> 00:43:16.090
fixes itself very quick. So I usually look at

00:43:16.090 --> 00:43:19.969
a few things in health. How's the mind processing

00:43:19.969 --> 00:43:23.050
the environment? How intelligent are they? When

00:43:23.050 --> 00:43:25.050
I say intelligence, I'm not talking about IQ.

00:43:25.150 --> 00:43:27.530
I don't judge a person by that kind of thing.

00:43:27.829 --> 00:43:31.070
I judge based on how intelligent are you to see

00:43:31.070 --> 00:43:34.090
a different side of life, a different facet,

00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:36.449
and the ability to see that different facet.

00:43:36.849 --> 00:43:41.469
The very complex cases of health can shift very,

00:43:41.670 --> 00:43:45.289
very quickly because the mind is able to unwire

00:43:45.289 --> 00:43:50.030
the entanglement that has become so stuck based

00:43:50.030 --> 00:43:53.309
on that complexities of thinking that they can

00:43:53.309 --> 00:43:57.170
also uncomplex themselves. So I'm not interested

00:43:57.170 --> 00:44:00.449
in how bad the illness is. I'm looking at the

00:44:00.449 --> 00:44:03.949
way the mind can function to undo everything

00:44:03.949 --> 00:44:07.710
that has happened. So have there been any, any

00:44:07.710 --> 00:44:10.150
situations or any cases where it's even got you

00:44:10.150 --> 00:44:13.949
questioning like, is this real? Yeah, every day,

00:44:14.090 --> 00:44:18.030
even until today, because I mean, doing this

00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:21.679
for over 15 years now. So Mary, because normally

00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.699
when I go for a session, I finish the session,

00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.420
I don't think about it. You always say that.

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:31.420
I don't, because if I were to meet my client

00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:34.019
and sometimes we run into each other in the dinner

00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:36.019
party and they will say to me, oh, Sufan, you

00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:37.699
know that day you did that and that and that.

00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.599
I was like, what did I do? I don't remember it,

00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:41.420
because it's very awkward if I remember all the

00:44:41.420 --> 00:44:44.519
emotional stuff and the stories. So I don't remember.

00:44:44.659 --> 00:44:46.860
So now asking me to pick that brain I have to

00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:51.039
go back into. into the whole category of. Even

00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.139
my story, she was like, wow, that's fascinating.

00:44:55.940 --> 00:45:00.880
I really don't remember. I think that's a good,

00:45:00.900 --> 00:45:02.880
good way to be because like when you're going

00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.400
through it, I take it, you know, a lot of the

00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.159
stuff that's stored within is their emotional

00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.800
stress, their traumas and. And I guess it's something

00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.360
then that you don't want to have to take on yourself.

00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:17.360
So I guess I think Tyler, my husband, you know,

00:45:17.460 --> 00:45:18.880
having worked in the emergency department for

00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.900
so long, he's kind of a master of doing this.

00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.880
Right. So it's like, you know, exactly like what

00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.920
you said, it's like he might have attended to

00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.219
a code blue on somebody and then meet them at

00:45:27.219 --> 00:45:28.420
a dinner party. And they're like, Hey, doctor,

00:45:28.699 --> 00:45:32.360
you saved my life. And he's like, Great! Glad

00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:34.559
you are here today. You know, I think it's one

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.659
of those things where it's like he solved the

00:45:36.659 --> 00:45:38.880
situation or he addressed the situation and then

00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.559
he kind of had to let that person go on living

00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:43.539
with their life. You know, it's like he accomplished

00:45:43.539 --> 00:45:45.460
that job for them. You can't take all of that

00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:47.500
on. Exactly. You cannot take all of that on.

00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:50.219
So yeah, I think it's kind of a similar response.

00:45:50.699 --> 00:45:53.800
I have seen a lot of cases whereby women go into

00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.260
extreme stress. They hit menopause without preparing

00:45:57.260 --> 00:45:59.820
menopause. They just hit menopause. Immediately

00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:02.260
end, they don't get a period. I've had women

00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:04.360
come in for a session. They'll say, oh, I have

00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.820
very menopause. I have menopause quite early

00:46:06.820 --> 00:46:11.900
at my 14th. No, at 14. And I'll ask the body

00:46:11.900 --> 00:46:14.300
if that was a natural way the body wanted to

00:46:14.300 --> 00:46:17.340
menopause. And the boy said, no, it comes from

00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:22.550
trauma. And when I went to a session and unearthed

00:46:22.550 --> 00:46:24.590
the trauma and there's a lot of trauma relating

00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:29.289
to men, such as father passed away, husband passed

00:46:29.289 --> 00:46:32.510
away, anything that has to do with the masculine,

00:46:33.030 --> 00:46:37.050
women get very badly affected by it. And because

00:46:37.050 --> 00:46:40.070
the testosterone is what actually balances the

00:46:40.070 --> 00:46:42.650
estrogen. So women get cancer because there's

00:46:42.650 --> 00:46:44.960
not enough testosterone in the body. That's why

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:48.000
the estrogen becomes dominant. So in life, it's

00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.119
the same. We need the masculine energy to be

00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.380
able to support women. And when that masculine

00:46:53.380 --> 00:46:57.320
is not there, the body can't function as the

00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.039
feminine. So she went into menopause immediately.

00:47:00.659 --> 00:47:03.519
But after a couple of sessions, the period started

00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.960
to come back and trickle. We don't need the full

00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.369
bleeding. We need a cycle. Because that cycle

00:47:10.369 --> 00:47:13.530
means a lot of things. So the reproductive system

00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:17.550
is very amazing. We really underestimate it.

00:47:18.210 --> 00:47:20.929
You know, the ovaries are all about taking instruction

00:47:20.929 --> 00:47:23.869
to take action for the cycle. You want to do

00:47:23.869 --> 00:47:26.409
something, you need an ovarian cycle, you need

00:47:26.409 --> 00:47:29.559
an egg. to come out. And that egg represents,

00:47:29.579 --> 00:47:31.800
I'm going to implant something. I'm going to

00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:35.179
do something new. It's a beginning of a brand

00:47:35.179 --> 00:47:37.960
new day, a brand new project. And we women, right

00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.400
now we go out there into the world, we create

00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.019
stuff. We don't just create babies. You create

00:47:43.019 --> 00:47:47.900
a podcast, you create the projects that you fall

00:47:47.900 --> 00:47:50.860
in love with and want to do. And having a period

00:47:50.860 --> 00:47:54.619
is important because we want to continue to be

00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:58.590
in that energy of being able to create. So when

00:47:58.590 --> 00:48:01.429
this lady came for a session after that, she

00:48:01.429 --> 00:48:05.070
started to have a period coming back sporadically.

00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:08.769
And it's not whether it's regular or not, but

00:48:08.769 --> 00:48:11.289
rather how she felt after that. And she felt

00:48:11.289 --> 00:48:15.650
like, I could do this again. I could come out

00:48:15.650 --> 00:48:17.949
to life again. I could do all these things again.

00:48:18.050 --> 00:48:21.010
The things that she loved to do, she was able

00:48:21.010 --> 00:48:24.280
to. start again and that's more important whether

00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.059
a woman gets a period or not. This is going to

00:48:27.059 --> 00:48:29.059
be a get ready for this jump okay this logical

00:48:29.059 --> 00:48:31.880
jump but I hear you it's like by re -establishing

00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.760
some level of her menstrual cycle you're re -establishing

00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:36.659
her ability to create right it's kind of opening

00:48:36.659 --> 00:48:40.039
that pathway and I Like I said, get ready. I

00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.559
feel like this is also related to constipation

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.300
and women who don't pass bowels regularly. And

00:48:46.300 --> 00:48:48.019
this is something that I think a lot of women

00:48:48.019 --> 00:48:51.500
are not talking about that is an instrumental

00:48:51.500 --> 00:48:55.239
indicator of health and energy flow, right? And

00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:57.940
literally, if you are piling up with shit on

00:48:57.940 --> 00:49:01.619
the inside and not passing it through. How are

00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:04.360
you expected to be able to like you said have

00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.139
this creative energy or have space? For you know

00:49:07.139 --> 00:49:08.960
positive things to enter your life because you

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.099
are literally holding on to this shit Yeah, right,

00:49:12.099 --> 00:49:14.480
but women don't talk about it. They're embarrassed.

00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:17.519
Yeah, and they also think it's normal. They think

00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.219
you Do you ask your patients how many times a

00:49:20.219 --> 00:49:23.880
week they go? That's what I want to know In my

00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.099
intake form I asked them the standard questions

00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.019
When you sleep, do you wake up feeling restful?

00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:34.920
That's one of the questions we ask as well, don't

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.980
we? How many times a week do you pass your bowel

00:49:37.980 --> 00:49:42.099
seven times a week, every day? And that is an

00:49:42.099 --> 00:49:44.019
indication of many things. You know, when you

00:49:44.019 --> 00:49:46.500
talk about tapping on the gut brain, the gut

00:49:46.500 --> 00:49:49.440
brain's intuition. If we power on the shit, we

00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:53.019
can't see clearly the path ahead. And it is...

00:49:53.099 --> 00:49:57.619
imperative to pass motion every single day. Say

00:49:57.619 --> 00:50:02.280
it again, girl! And even when they say they do

00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.179
it every day, I hold on to the order, I can check.

00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:10.420
Is it clear? It may be maybe 50 % a day only,

00:50:10.539 --> 00:50:12.900
which means they retain their old crap every

00:50:12.900 --> 00:50:15.179
day. Yeah. And I feel like your form, like mine

00:50:15.179 --> 00:50:16.960
is just how often they go, but your form actually

00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.920
asked that. How big is it? Yeah. So I'm very.

00:50:23.820 --> 00:50:26.619
That's a tight category. The Bristol school stool

00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:28.400
scale. OK, first of all, you want to look at

00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.280
your stool on the scale and see the texture.

00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.179
And also you want to be passing about 12 inches

00:50:33.179 --> 00:50:36.239
or 30 centimeters. of firm solid stool per day.

00:50:36.340 --> 00:50:39.480
And that number shocks people. I could tell people,

00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:41.920
you know, their optimal VO2 max, their hand grip

00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:43.679
strength, and they're like, wow, that's really

00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.199
intense. But when I talk about the optimized

00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.159
shit, people lose their damn minds. I love that.

00:50:49.460 --> 00:50:51.659
My kids would love a conversation because after

00:50:51.659 --> 00:50:54.059
each poo they will say, mommy, it was a four

00:50:54.059 --> 00:50:58.519
today. I love a solid Bristol four, okay? But

00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:00.480
yeah, it's one of those things, but it's these

00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.500
cycles, right? Whether we're talking about menstrual

00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:03.960
cycles, whether we're talking about sleep cycles.

00:51:03.849 --> 00:51:06.829
we were talking about, bowel cycles, all of these

00:51:06.829 --> 00:51:10.690
regulatory cycles coexist in women, you know,

00:51:10.949 --> 00:51:13.409
beautifully when things are right and are the

00:51:13.409 --> 00:51:15.309
first indicator of when things are wrong. Such

00:51:15.309 --> 00:51:19.559
a good indication, absolutely. Common misconceptions

00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.360
that people have about body talk. What are they

00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.860
and would you like to bust them for us? We often

00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:29.300
say as practitioners, it's such a gentle and

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:32.460
non -invasive way of healing. And it is, it's

00:51:32.460 --> 00:51:35.219
so beautiful. It can release trauma. without

00:51:35.219 --> 00:51:38.179
ever re -traumatizing you, without, you know,

00:51:38.300 --> 00:51:40.199
you don't have to go through anything at end

00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:43.139
and it can all be released. So it is, it's really

00:51:43.139 --> 00:51:46.860
gentle. It's non -invasive. But I think from

00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:50.239
that, a lot of people just surmise that it is

00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:54.739
slow and it's not. It is so powerful and it can

00:51:54.739 --> 00:51:57.659
be so fast. And to what Sufin said earlier about,

00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:00.380
you know, sometimes the complexity of the mind

00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:04.099
and how easily it can shift. And you can have

00:52:04.099 --> 00:52:07.119
such amazing results after even one session,

00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.800
because it just depends on how easily you can

00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.980
shift your mindset and we can release all belief

00:52:13.980 --> 00:52:16.719
systems. But yeah, just to that point, it's a

00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:19.059
really powerful system, even though it can still

00:52:19.059 --> 00:52:21.610
be gentle at the same time. powerful but gentle

00:52:21.610 --> 00:52:24.429
at the same time. Yeah, amazing. We're actually

00:52:24.429 --> 00:52:25.769
coming to the end of the interview now, and it's

00:52:25.769 --> 00:52:27.969
been incredible learning about body talk, learning

00:52:27.969 --> 00:52:30.550
about both of your experiences. But before we

00:52:30.550 --> 00:52:32.789
finish, we do have one question that we always

00:52:32.789 --> 00:52:35.769
ask all of our guests, and that is, what's your

00:52:35.769 --> 00:52:39.849
forties formula? How would you like to sum up

00:52:39.849 --> 00:52:42.269
what you think women can do in their forties

00:52:42.269 --> 00:52:45.650
to help them thrive? I believe it's about going

00:52:45.650 --> 00:52:47.769
into the stage of life, or if you're already

00:52:47.769 --> 00:52:50.460
there, it's not too late. I feel like it's going

00:52:50.460 --> 00:52:54.599
in and cleaning out your slate, cleaning out

00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.340
your system as much as you can, you know, and

00:52:57.340 --> 00:52:59.699
whether that's looking at stresses and removing

00:52:59.699 --> 00:53:03.219
them or doing some sort of a detox and whichever

00:53:03.219 --> 00:53:05.460
way possible. As I said, I feel like we go into

00:53:05.460 --> 00:53:10.300
this age so full already that we're just not

00:53:10.300 --> 00:53:14.679
able to adapt to when the hormones surge, it

00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.019
throws us over the edge. So I think if we have

00:53:17.650 --> 00:53:20.909
whatever tools we want to use to clean out our

00:53:20.909 --> 00:53:23.489
system so that when we enter this age, we're

00:53:23.489 --> 00:53:25.989
able to adapt. We're able to go with the rise

00:53:25.989 --> 00:53:28.710
and flow. And our systems are just that much

00:53:28.710 --> 00:53:31.329
more able for it. Yeah, make space in your bucket.

00:53:31.710 --> 00:53:37.849
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I'm 48. So I have a very

00:53:37.849 --> 00:53:42.929
little runway for, you know, until I hit men

00:53:42.929 --> 00:53:47.889
pause. And I do a lot of physical Even though

00:53:47.889 --> 00:53:50.250
I do a lot of energetic stuff, I still come back

00:53:50.250 --> 00:53:53.150
to the physical. I look at my diet, I watch my

00:53:53.150 --> 00:53:56.309
diet, I exercise a lot. Because the physical

00:53:56.309 --> 00:53:58.690
body is still physical, it requires diet and

00:53:58.690 --> 00:54:01.690
exercise. For the part which is mental and emotional

00:54:01.690 --> 00:54:05.309
stress, like Rika said, the dumping is a regular

00:54:05.309 --> 00:54:07.690
thing we do every day. As boy talkers, we are

00:54:07.690 --> 00:54:12.110
always consistently trying to clarify and clean

00:54:12.110 --> 00:54:15.230
the brain, clean the mind. But the physical parts

00:54:15.230 --> 00:54:18.769
are more important. Diet is very important. So

00:54:18.769 --> 00:54:23.570
I take a very low carb, low sugar diet. But I

00:54:23.570 --> 00:54:27.809
do a Bikram yoga every other day, three to five

00:54:27.809 --> 00:54:31.389
times a week. And that helps to keep everything

00:54:31.389 --> 00:54:33.710
going, everything moving. So it's a combination

00:54:33.710 --> 00:54:36.059
of things that I do. You're talking to a Beakroom

00:54:36.059 --> 00:54:38.139
enthusiast. We'll have to talk about this more

00:54:38.139 --> 00:54:40.639
off of air, but I love that piece of information.

00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:42.639
Thanks for sharing that. And obviously, I'm on

00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:47.960
the low carb, low sugar side. But thank you so

00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.099
much, ladies. It has been wonderful having you

00:54:50.099 --> 00:54:53.179
both here. And yeah, and just finding out more

00:54:53.179 --> 00:54:57.280
about body talk. I think it's it's crazy, but.

00:54:57.779 --> 00:55:00.059
Fascinating at the same time. So thank you so

00:55:00.059 --> 00:55:02.119
much. Thank you very much. Thank you so much

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00:55:50.400 --> 00:56:35.570
Bye! Like take loads of water just so that I

00:56:35.570 --> 00:56:37.570
can get some, yeah. But in theory, you're holy.

00:56:38.670 --> 00:56:39.989
Yes. Yes. Lens to my body.