1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,960 So a lot of women are going through perimetropos in their mid 30s, but the media out there 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,960 and the majority... 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,960 I was one of them. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,680 The narrative is, oh, you know, it's in your 50s. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,840 BS is what I call it because I started menopause at 36 and I was completely flabbergasted that 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,600 it was happening and I was clueless. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,280 This is so strange. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,440 We are living parallel lives. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,360 I was 36 when I started as well. 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,360 So this is very, very odd. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:50,200 Hey, hey, and welcome to the 40s Formula, your go to place for insightful discussions 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,440 on navigating the 40s and thriving in this transformative decade. 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,360 We're your hosts, Jasmine and Amanda, two women that are passionate about exploring 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:11,000 the challenges and adventures that come with turning 40 and what lies ahead. 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Terry Taddeosian is a lifelong entrepreneur, founder of Social Fix Media and now a certified 16 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,780 health and emotional eating coach. 17 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:24,440 She embarked on a profoundly life altering journey in her mid 40s, successfully shedding 18 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:30,180 over 80 pounds at age 42 and discovering an untapped source of incredible physical and 19 00:01:30,180 --> 00:01:33,760 emotional strength through her company, Thor Wellness. 20 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,800 She runs fitness and curated experiential retreats for women, and she is also host of 21 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,120 the How Good Can It Get podcast. 22 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,680 She's based in America and is also a mother of two. 23 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,620 So Terry, I cannot tell you the number of times that I've had women come to me and my coaching 24 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:51,160 journey and say, I'm begging to lose weight. 25 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,680 I'll do anything. 26 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,760 But in your 40s, it's actually not that easy to do. 27 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:02,040 But here you are, an entrepreneur who at age 42 embarked on a major weight loss journey, 28 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,480 losing 80 pounds and discovering an untapped source of incredible physical and mental strength 29 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,480 along the way. 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Welcome, Terry, to the 40 formula. 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Thank you, ladies, for having me. 32 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,240 I'm super excited and very grateful and honored to be here. 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Thank you so much. 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,640 I was thinking when I was looking at Instagram and kind of studying a bit about your journey, 35 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:26,880 one of my favorite quotes in fitness is the heaviest weight in the gym is the front door. 36 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Right. 37 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,840 For so many women, the biggest thing to overcome is just actually getting started. 38 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,880 How did you overcome that? 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,720 How did you push that door, girl? 40 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,640 With every ounce of will and determination that I had. 41 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:49,200 So funny story, when I started working out at about 42, I received my program at a coach 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:55,880 and there were abbreviations in the program, things like RDL and DB and all these things. 43 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,880 And for the life of me, I could not figure out what DB was. 44 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:00,880 I had no idea. 45 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,000 I had never put up a weight in my life. 46 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,360 You're like decibels. 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,360 And it's funny. 48 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,600 I mean, you say that and we can laugh, right, because you know, you're sitting in a room 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,320 of fitness and wellness professionals. 50 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,960 But that lingo, right, those abbreviations, those acronyms, that's a barrier to entry. 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,400 It makes you feel like you're outside a world and you'll never get it. 52 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,400 Right. 53 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,000 So, you know, getting used to that type of stuff. 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,880 I love that you work with a coach, obviously, as a coach. 55 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,120 I have to love that. 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,080 Can you tell me about the decision to employ a coach in the beginning? 57 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,080 Yes. 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,800 So at first I tried to do it on my own. 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Right. 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,680 So I had done over 30 diets in my 10 years prior to that. 61 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,120 I tried it all. 62 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,160 You name it, I've done it. 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,280 And then I decided that this is no longer working. 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,480 None of these diets work. 65 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,200 I'm going to make up my own thing. 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,200 I made it up. 67 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Right. 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,680 And I was doing about two and a half hours of Peloton cardio. 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:03,000 And I decided I was only going to eat salads all day. 70 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:09,680 So I would make this huge, giant bowl of salad and I ate that all day and I lost 30 pounds. 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,680 As you could. 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,600 But my biggest fear was that I was going to regain it, which was my past history. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,080 I had a lot of emotional eating issues. 74 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,760 I was very overwhelmed, stressed, overworked, underfed, right? 75 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,520 So super restrictive diets. 76 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Eventually you go back to normal life, you regain it plus some. 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,360 And I was determined. 78 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,720 I said to myself, I am not going to gain this weight back. 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,600 I'm actually, as a matter of fact, going to lose some more. 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,840 So at that point I was at about 180. 81 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:46,280 That's pounds for our listeners. 82 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,800 And I'm five three. 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,120 And at that point I had a friend who had just entered a bodybuilding competition and she 84 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,180 had a coach and she had gone on stage. 85 00:04:57,180 --> 00:05:01,300 And so I started scrolling through Instagram, went down the rabbit hole and I found one 86 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:08,440 of the competitors that was on that stage with her who was offering a challenge. 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,800 And I was like, you know what? 88 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,440 I'm going to apply. 89 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,240 I mean, I had never lifted weights before. 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:22,160 I had zero expectation that I was even going to be accepted into this. 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,200 And so I applied and lo and behold, a month later I get an email like, hey, you're in 92 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,240 and we're starting January 1st. 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:35,960 And I had a big mind blow out because I had no clue what that meant. 94 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,780 I was a complete noob. 95 00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:40,800 And that's how it all began in 2019. 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Wow. 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,560 Just a quick question, though. 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,440 On December 31st, what was your mindset like? 99 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,440 What went through your head? 100 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Knowing what was in the morning. 101 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,840 What was going to happen on the 1st of January? 102 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:54,000 Panic. 103 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:03,120 And I was convinced that she would call me out as basically like an imposter. 104 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,520 I had never worked out before. 105 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,360 I had no idea what I was doing. 106 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:14,800 And then when I started the program, I found out that a lot of the other girls were professional 107 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,760 competitors, professional bodybuilders. 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:24,680 They were not what, as I refer to myself as marshmallow back then, they were not marshmallows. 109 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,680 And they were really serious. 110 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,240 And I did not belong there, let me tell you. 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,860 But see what's funny, Terry, is that from a coach, right? 112 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:40,160 You are a coach's dream, a blank slate, a beautiful canvas ready to be painted with 113 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,000 the correct ways of doing this, right? 114 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,720 I think in coaching so often we're dealing with unpacking what people have already learned, 115 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,080 you know, faultily, unfortunately, along their miss, you know, their 30 diets in 10 years. 116 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,280 And you spend half your time unpacking and untraining and, you know, undoing the old 117 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:57,280 ways. 118 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:58,280 You came in fresh, girl. 119 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:01,080 And I bet your coach was so excited to have a client like you. 120 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,080 And I think your message of you feeling like an imposter, I think is powerful for others 121 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,520 to hear that, in fact, clients like yourself are one of the best candidates for a coaching 122 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,920 journey because you've got nowhere to go but up. 123 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,200 I agree with you as far as the training was concerned. 124 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:25,280 And somewhat a little bit with the nutrition, I joke around and I say, you know, I needed 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,980 to have a PhD in nutrition to understand what macros were and how to put meals together. 126 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:34,960 And I remember I had like 19 ingredients in one of my meals. 127 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Oh, my. 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,760 And my coach came back and said, No, no, no, you need like no more than four. 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,640 And I couldn't figure out how to do that. 130 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,920 But with a lot of trial and error, eventually, it kind of all came together. 131 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:55,520 And that's what emotional eating hit me smack in the face. 132 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:03,720 And I discovered that I had an eating disorder for probably my entire life that was undiagnosed. 133 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,900 Of course, emotional eating is a self diagnosed type of thing. 134 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:12,160 And that's when change really began to happen for me. 135 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,800 It wasn't necessarily in the training or even the nutrition, because I could white knuckle 136 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,160 that up to a point. 137 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,960 And then all hell would break loose once I encountered a challenge that that got me emotionally 138 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,240 unstable. 139 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:35,340 So there were a lot of layers to this journey and a lot of levels to that that you kind 140 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:41,520 of have to keep progressing into the development of your mind, essentially. 141 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Absolutely. 142 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,720 I always say it's weight loss. 143 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,360 You know, it's not just the food and the exercise is this whole mindset thing you have to you 144 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,640 have to change what's going on in your mind. 145 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Otherwise, things won't change in the long run. 146 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,960 You just always revert back to your old self. 147 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,120 Amanda, you're going to love this. 148 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,760 I just found out that the meat club have added a whole new range of protein snacks and supplements 149 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,760 to their website. 150 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,760 Wait, what? 151 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 I thought they just did the meat and the fish and that brand new range of fresh fruit and 152 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,160 veggies. 153 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,160 They 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00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:20,760 I didn't want to eat chocolate. 177 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,000 And that's when things started to fall into place. 178 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,480 And it was like, oh, actually, I want to eat the protein. 179 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,680 I want to eat the vegetables and I want to eat the good stuff. 180 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:35,680 And I think until it's not I can't have and it's more of I don't want to have that things 181 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:39,840 won't necessarily feel right to you. 182 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,720 100%. 183 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:50,360 And through this entire journey, I actually discovered that emotional starvation is worse 184 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:56,040 than physical starvation or malnutrition in a lot of ways, because when I didn't take 185 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:05,320 care of myself emotionally and I was not emotionally healthy, I did not want to do all the other 186 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,320 things. 187 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,320 I didn't want to train. 188 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,320 I didn't want to eat properly. 189 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,060 I didn't want to track. 190 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:15,320 I just wanted to wallow in my own misery, in a sense. 191 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:21,800 So until I stabilized that aspect, the emotional eating habit was always going to be there 192 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:30,480 because essentially I used food the same way I used alcohol and other substances to cope 193 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,680 with my internal state. 194 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:38,360 And that discovery was really a surprise because I was in it for the weight loss. 195 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:46,960 But I walked away with a completely different mindset of discovering traumas and things 196 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,320 that I had picked up along the way that no longer served me. 197 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,320 So it was a very cathartic type of experience. 198 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,680 And is that something that you went through solely with your coach? 199 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:02,080 Or is that something that you worked with a therapist on or who was employed in kind 200 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,600 of your wellness circle? 201 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:11,240 So not a great story, but I did end up finding a therapist and I was counting macros at the 202 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,240 time. 203 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,240 I was training really hard. 204 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,000 I was doing really well. 205 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,200 I was really into it. 206 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,160 And the therapist was a little bit against it for whatever reason. 207 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,560 And so I kind of broke up with her and continued on my own. 208 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:28,340 And you figured it all out on your own? 209 00:12:28,340 --> 00:12:34,880 I had to because I feel like people have a lot of biases when it comes to food. 210 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:44,480 And they believe certain type of rigidity or macros or a plan or structure may sometimes 211 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,280 not really work for some people with emotional and eating disorders. 212 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,440 But it was working for me. 213 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:58,960 It gave me freedom to be able to understand and know that the food I was eating was actually 214 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:07,840 properly fueling me and that if I did experience hunger, that it made me question, was it physical 215 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,260 hunger or was it emotional hunger? 216 00:13:11,260 --> 00:13:14,520 Because I knew that the food I was eating should have kept me full. 217 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,920 So if I was looking for something else, I had to question why. 218 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:25,200 Oh, I love that you use the term freedom because I think once you realize what it is that you're 219 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,280 searching for, then you can definitely address the issues. 220 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,920 But until you get to that point, you're not going to know. 221 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Like you said, you're sitting in front of the TV and you're like, oh, I fancy something. 222 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,680 Are you really hungry or are you bored? 223 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:38,080 Are you stressed? 224 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,240 What is it that is driving you to eat? 225 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Hey, Amanda, you know how much I love clean home cooked food. 226 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,520 There's just something about knowing exactly what goes into your meal, right? 227 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,400 Yeah, but let's also be real. 228 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Sometimes it's just not possible to cook at home with our busy schedules. 229 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,920 I know, but that's why I've been loving Guzmine Gomez. 230 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,200 They've taken fast food and they've made it healthy. 231 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,640 You get fresh quality ingredients all cooked from scratch, no processed stuff, just real 232 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,640 food. 233 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Oh, I love that so much. 234 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,400 So even when I cannot cook at home, I don't have to compromise on eating clean. 235 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,400 Yep. 236 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,840 And GYG offers everything from burritos, bowls and salads packed with fresh veggies, lean 237 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,840 meats and wholesome grains and no added preservatives or artificial flavors. 238 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,840 And the best part for me is that it is fast. 239 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,520 So you're not stuck waiting forever for a healthy meal when you're already in a rush. 240 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Yep. 241 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,520 For me, I love that I can customize my own meal too. 242 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,200 I'll have a burrito bowl, no rice, double protein. 243 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Yes, please. 244 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Just head to your nearest GYG or order delivery with ease through their Instagram and social 245 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,360 media platforms at no price markups. 246 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,720 Trust me, it is the perfect solution when you want something quick, healthy and delicious 247 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,160 because clean is the new healthy. 248 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,160 Sounds like a win to me. 249 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Now let's get back to the chat. 250 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Yes, primary food, right? 251 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,600 So the difference between primary food and regular food is the craving for intimacy, 252 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:01,960 connection, love, happiness, joy, boredom, you know, whatever it may be that may be driving 253 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:09,280 you to consume physical food as a replacement for that emotion. 254 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,800 And that was very eye opening for me. 255 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Yeah, I mean, that is so hard to do though, Tara. 256 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,780 I mean, you're talking about it so beautifully, you know, and with such honest transformation. 257 00:15:19,780 --> 00:15:23,760 What tips could you give our listeners that struggle with exactly what you're talking 258 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,520 about, which is they have the structural components of counting macros or they have the structural 259 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,480 components of working out, but they have not yet been able to tap into that emotional bit. 260 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,520 What are some tips that you could give our listeners? 261 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:46,440 Well, the first one is give yourself some space to process your life. 262 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,440 What are you feeling? 263 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Right? 264 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Some of us don't even know what we feel on a minute to minute basis. 265 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:58,240 We're completely disconnected with our essence of who we are, what we like, what we don't 266 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,240 like. 267 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,160 We're overwhelmed, right? 268 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:07,640 So start removing things from your life that are unnecessary, that you're doing them out 269 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:15,500 of obligation, you're people pleasing, you're doing too much stuff and don't have enough 270 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:21,160 time to process your midlife events that are occurring. 271 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,240 And for a lot of us, those events happen a lot sooner than we expect. 272 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:31,120 So a lot of women are going through perimetropology in their mid thirties, but the media out there 273 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,120 and the majority... 274 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,120 I was one of them. 275 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,120 The narrative is, oh, you know, it's in your fifties. 276 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:43,320 BS is what I call it because I started menopause at 36 and I was completely flabbergasted that 277 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,040 it was happening and I was clueless. 278 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,740 This is so strange. 279 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:49,920 We are living parallel lives. 280 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,840 I was 36 when I started as well. 281 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,840 So this is very, very odd. 282 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Yes. 283 00:16:54,840 --> 00:17:01,920 So, you know, you need space to process all these changes that are not only happening 284 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,920 to you internally, hormonally, they're also happening to you in life. 285 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:13,200 I mean, aging parents, young children, teenagers, more stress at work, all kinds of things, 286 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,380 more bills, bigger mortgage, all of this stuff, right? 287 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:26,140 And it's a perfect storm to kind of disassociate from yourself and be unhappy and be miserable 288 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:28,920 because you're so disconnected. 289 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,880 So give yourself the space to process it. 290 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:39,200 And then the third thing is give yourself the grace and the dignity to go through the 291 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,200 process. 292 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,280 It's not easy. 293 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,000 People that make it sound like it's just one, two, three, it's a light switch or, you know, 294 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,120 one day you're miserable and next day you're going to be happy. 295 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:49,320 That's not really the case. 296 00:17:49,320 --> 00:18:00,040 It takes years to become a balanced, harmonious, grounded type of person, especially if you're 297 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,200 going through menopause. 298 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:07,560 So those are really my top tips because get your training in, get your protein in, get 299 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,440 your cardio in, get your nutrition. 300 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,880 I think we've beaten that horse to death at this point. 301 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,640 Jasmine, there is so much information on gut health out there right now. 302 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,720 And if we as nutritionists are tired of trying to wade through the oceans of probiotic strains 303 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,400 and supplements to figure out what's best for our families, I imagine our listeners 304 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,400 are too. 305 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,880 Oh, no doubt they are, which is why I love the simplicity and straightforward science 306 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,360 of the berry, tropical and ginger tonics from Akizzi Wellness. 307 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:37,280 Akizzi's prebiotic, probiotic and postbiotic tonics combine all the good stuff, active 308 00:18:37,280 --> 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recording in studio. 318 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,720 Our Singapore listeners can get an exclusive 15% off and free shipping with all orders 319 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,200 using the code 40s on akizziwellness.com. 320 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,480 That's akizzi wellness, A-K-E-S-I wellness dot com. 321 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,880 And now back to the show. 322 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Yes. 323 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,600 And you're absolutely right. 324 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,360 Those are those are all great tips, right? 325 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:36,160 But you know, we always say it's like you can't build a house on a shaky foundation. 326 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,360 So even if you got the columns of perfect nutrition, perfect workouts, great coaching, 327 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:44,760 if you have not addressed the foundation of your issues, that house will fall. 328 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,320 You know, might be a day and might be a month, might be a year, but it doesn't it can't 329 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,200 stand on a weak foundation. 330 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,400 And I think, Terry, you've hit on two things that both Jasmine and I run into as coaches 331 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,040 all the time, which is give yourself space and give yourself time. 332 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,040 Right. 333 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,580 These changes are not quick fixes. 334 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:06,360 And unfortunately, social media gives us that impression that, you know, if you see it before 335 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:09,320 and after, the first thing you check is what's the time between? 336 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Right. 337 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,320 14 weeks. 338 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Yeah. 339 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,320 How many days? 340 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,320 How many weeks? 341 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,520 How many hours people want versus like the actual years you just mentioned that it takes 342 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,880 to make these sustained changes. 343 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,040 And I think one way we're seeing that reflected in our culture is with the rise of Ozempic, 344 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,040 right? 345 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,960 The GLP-1 agonist drugs and people saying, you know, why would I do what Terry is doing? 346 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Why would I do this hard work? 347 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,480 Look at my emotions, unpack my childhood. 348 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,240 Why would I do that when I can just inject? 349 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,360 And you know, for women that might be considering that option, what's your opinion and what 350 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:42,560 advice would you give? 351 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Well, I know countless people that have had gastric bypass, gastric sleeve. 352 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Sure. 353 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,940 Taken Ozempic. 354 00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:56,440 If you don't change your habits, you will regain it. 355 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Plus you're going to inherit a slew of other health conditions on top of that that you 356 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,180 didn't have before. 357 00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:13,240 So my question always is when it comes to pharmaceuticals of any kind, have you exhausted 358 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,160 every avenue? 359 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,840 Have you done everything you possibly can? 360 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:25,160 Holistically, mentally, emotionally, physically, have you looked at your movement patterns 361 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:31,040 throughout the day, your nutrition, your mindset, your emotions, your life, your job, all of 362 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,480 these things, your sleep? 363 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,280 What does your sleep look like? 364 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,360 Have you exhausted every single avenue before you reach for the meds? 365 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,920 Because the meds, you might have to be on them for the rest of your life. 366 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,340 And that's the thing, anyone can lose weight, but it's keeping it off. 367 00:21:46,340 --> 00:21:51,840 And until you address the underlying emotions and the underlying reasons why you gained 368 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,680 weight in the first place, you won't be able to sustain it. 369 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Exactly. 370 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,680 100%. 371 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,700 Almost every story that I hear about Ozempic or any of the gastric sleeves, people always 372 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:07,480 regain the weight back because their behaviors and their habits and their mindset did not 373 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,480 change. 374 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,600 It was just a bandaid. 375 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,520 And I'm not necessarily against it because a lot of people may need that bridge in time 376 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:21,200 in order to change their habits and behaviors, but that should not be a permanent solution, 377 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,200 in my opinion. 378 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,640 I like how you phrase that, Terry, a bridge in time. 379 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,260 And because that's really what those GLP agonists can be for some people, of course, right, 380 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:34,880 is giving them a little bit of a bit of hope, right, a bit of time to see a bit of success 381 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 where then they might be inspired to make those changes. 382 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:42,440 But again, we'll all have to wait for the long term data to see how that game pans out. 383 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,280 There's so many reasons, Terry, that people are overweight, right? 384 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,360 There's as many reasons for being overweight as there are overweight people. 385 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,020 And in America, you know, we know that that's about 70% of the population. 386 00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:54,560 So we're talking about a lot of folks. 387 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,120 You are a coach, you lead wellness retreats, and you are speaking to our exact audience, 388 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:01,000 which is women in their 40s. 389 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,480 What are the most common reasons you see for women in their 40s being overweight? 390 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,480 Sugar. 391 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,600 Well, one word, I like it. 392 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,760 We're consuming fructose in everything we eat. 393 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,360 So we've become completely disconnected with our own food. 394 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:24,560 We're consuming things in a box, a container, a bag, a package, even foods that are labeled 395 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,600 as healthy foods are full of fructose. 396 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:38,600 So when we're overeating, in that sense, we're overeating sugar and fructose and corn syrup 397 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,320 and all of these things. 398 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:48,640 What is the body going to do with all that excess amount of calories? 399 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,760 It's in everything, right? 400 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,120 So we've gotten away from cooking at home. 401 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:58,080 We've gotten away from purchasing whole foods where we don't even know what is what have 402 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,320 the ingredients are and the packages. 403 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:06,840 We're extremely overwhelmed, stressed, busy, and we've disconnected from our true nature. 404 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:14,000 So the fact that it's happening on such a large scale, it's not an individual thing 405 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,160 if it's happening literally to 70% of the United States population. 406 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:26,360 So there is a systemic issue, which is very unfortunate in my opinion. 407 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,880 Yeah, and you've hit on something, Terry. 408 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,160 You mentioned sugar, you mentioned fructose, you mentioned carbohydrates generally. 409 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,080 And here in Singapore, we have a much lower incidence of obesity and overweight, right? 410 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,200 We have a genetically smaller population, lighter population. 411 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,800 However, we have a rampant pre-diabetes and diabetes problem. 412 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,000 And we see it at the gestational level with pregnant women here, almost one in three develop 413 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,520 gestational diabetes in the Asian population. 414 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:59,040 We're seeing one in five after age 65 will develop diabetes type two in their older age. 415 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,160 So sugar is definitely an issue that kind of spans whether you're heavy or not heavy, 416 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,160 right? 417 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,520 This is something that is a bigger issue. 418 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,640 Can you share some of the dietary changes that you made to overcome the sugar problem? 419 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,560 The dietary changes I made, I crowded it out essentially. 420 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,280 And it wasn't a conscious thing. 421 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:24,080 I at that time did not know what I was doing because I was being coached. 422 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,080 But in 2019, I had my doses, right? 423 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,680 I had my dosage of food. 424 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,640 Every three hours, I was supposed to eat X amount of protein, X amount of carbs, and 425 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,040 X amount of fats. 426 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:45,120 Now the location of the starchy carbohydrates was always right around workout times. 427 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:49,280 At that time, I did not understand that that was very strategic as well. 428 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,640 And so I had to meet these requirements every three hours, just like medication. 429 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,480 I was dosing every three hours, certain amount of protein, certain amount of carbs, certain 430 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,960 amount of fat. 431 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:05,880 And I was so full with real food. 432 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,680 I couldn't look at any more food because when I first started out, my caloric intake was 433 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:18,400 supposed to be 1500 calories of this type of structured eating. 434 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,760 And I remember about three weeks in, my coach got suspicious and she said, are you eating 435 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,760 all your food? 436 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,400 And I was like, oh, no, I can't. 437 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,400 It's too much food. 438 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720 I could not get it all down. 439 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,080 It was too much protein. 440 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,400 And so I discovered that, you know, obviously what I was eating prior to beginning this 441 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,400 lifestyle was pints of ice cream and cookies and stuff that. 442 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600 And there's your 1500 calories in one pint of ice cream. 443 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:54,280 And it's funny because it's the hyperpalatable foods are so easy to overconsume that you 444 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,200 don't realize that you're getting more calories out of it. 445 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,560 And the satiety is not there. 446 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,560 So then you end up eating more overall. 447 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,480 But then like you just said, when you're eating more protein and strategic carbs and your 448 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,360 fats, actually getting in 1500 calories of those types of macros is so much harder because 449 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,040 they fill you up. 450 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:20,160 And that's the difference between the hyperpalatable processed pints of ice cream and chocolate 451 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:27,960 and sugar and prepackaged food in comparison to your lean proteins and vegetables and avocados 452 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,920 and fats that you'll be taking. 453 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,920 Yeah. 454 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,800 And you just, you know, to circle back to what we just talked about with Ozempic and 455 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,720 GLP-1 agonists, people think that Ozempic, you know, Saxenda, Wigovia, whatever, you 456 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,520 know, these ones are that it's a medicine, right? 457 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,640 I'm injecting some foreign medicine into my body. 458 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,120 GLP-1 is a hormone we all secrete. 459 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,200 It is something that we all actually produce. 460 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,040 And how do we produce it when we eat protein? 461 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,360 And what does GLP-1 agonists do? 462 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,480 It induces satiety. 463 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,360 So let's put those two together, right? 464 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,120 Eating protein induces satiety. 465 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,840 We can create that effect in our own diets and you're living proof. 466 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,040 100%. 467 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,080 And so the more you crowd out sugar with real food, the less hungry you are. 468 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,680 And it doesn't take a pint of ice cream to fill you up. 469 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,640 You could have one or two teaspoons and you're good. 470 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Correct. 471 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,640 Correct. 472 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,800 I like the idea of crowding it out, right? 473 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,940 Crowd out the noise with the real nutrition. 474 00:28:25,940 --> 00:28:27,500 That is such a powerful message. 475 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:29,800 I think that, you know, speaking of power, right? 476 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,720 So obviously eating protein, that's a strategic element nutritionally. 477 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,320 But circling back to mindset, which will always be the most powerful element, you said that 478 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,420 your journey was both physical and metaphysical and that you had to change your energy to 479 00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:45,760 change your life. 480 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,540 Can you tell us during that process, how did you change your energy? 481 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:50,680 How did you make it metaphysical? 482 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,120 I think people like to have kind of touch points to grab on to in those concepts. 483 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,720 And I feel like you'd be a great person to speak to that. 484 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:07,840 So the best way that I can describe it is every day that I put the work in, every day 485 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,820 I showed up for myself. 486 00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:13,840 Every day I kept my promise. 487 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Every day I shed another few ounces or every week I shed another pound and gained muscle. 488 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,360 My physical body was different. 489 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,040 My cells were different. 490 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:36,080 I was creating and building new cells and those new cells were born in an energy of 491 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:43,400 positive thoughts, positive actions, positive direction. 492 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,560 There was hope. 493 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,640 I was inspired to make these changes. 494 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,480 So when my body was changing physically, it was being birthed essentially into a very 495 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:01,520 different energetic field that I was creating with my actions. 496 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:10,960 And so everything that happened after that is a result of that energy I was creating. 497 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:21,400 I was pushing myself into the positive spectrum, not necessarily with some type of woo woo 498 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:30,000 statements or comments or sayings or any of that, but I was literally going through the 499 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440 process in a very authentic, honest way. 500 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480 I was struggling. 501 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:42,000 I was continuing to struggle, but I wouldn't quit on myself this time. 502 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:50,480 And so everything was born in that kind of chaotic mess I had going on. 503 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,960 And just continued to progress in that sense. 504 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,480 So when I say I changed metaphysically, I literally did. 505 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,360 I changed physically and energetically at the same time. 506 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Do you know what I'm visualizing here? 507 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,960 I'm visualizing like this superhero rebirth, you know, like this energy just like pouring 508 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680 out, like this light energy pouring out of you. 509 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Yeah, that's just incredible. 510 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,720 I just love that message. 511 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,680 And I think having those positive vibes is something that everyone going on a transformative 512 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,720 journey needs, because that's the light and the hope that's going to get you through. 513 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,200 But I also love, because you said you thought superhero, I thought Care Bear, right? 514 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,080 Like the Braveheart energy coming out. 515 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,360 But it's also important that you use the word struggle, Terry, because this, I think, is 516 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,080 a really key point that when people start off a journey, they are filled with positivity, 517 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,360 hopefully, right? 518 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800 They're so excited to start this new thing. 519 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,960 The training plan is shiny and new and the nutrition looks cool. 520 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,960 And let's give it a try. 521 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960 The plan is, you know, first time I'm seeing these new meals. 522 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,920 But then the struggle hits. 523 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040 It's my hundredth deadlift. 524 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800 It's my 60,000th chicken breast. 525 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,320 It's my it's my 16th night in a row of saying, sorry, guys, can't go out. 526 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,160 I got to get to bed by 9 p.m. 527 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,200 It's in the drudgery that people start to struggle. 528 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,820 And I think that hearing you say that you can overcome that by continuing to use positivity 529 00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:15,880 in that journey, even when the struggle is tough is so important. 530 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,640 You know, I think of one of the best quotes that I know from Brad Stolberg, which is the 531 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,540 goal is the path and the path is the goal. 532 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:24,200 It's not dissimilar, right? 533 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,680 The journey that you're on is actually what you want. 534 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,960 And by acting, you stay on it. 535 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,560 And I love that you are, you know, able and willing to make those changes. 536 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,760 I want to circle back a bit to the wellness retreats that you lead for women. 537 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,680 You know, we always talk about how there is no quick fix, right? 538 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,400 There is no 30 day plan. 539 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,080 But I think there is value in making space, right? 540 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,700 Taking time away from your real life to kind of do some work. 541 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:52,680 Can you talk about what you do with your wellness retreats with women in their 40s? 542 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Absolutely. 543 00:32:53,680 --> 00:33:01,080 So we spend sometimes four, sometimes five days in the mountains of Tennessee, in the 544 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:08,400 Smoky Mountains on a 50 acre property in the Cherokee National Forest. 545 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,280 And we basically the only thing that we do is we do yoga in the morning. 546 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,720 We have a macro based lunch. 547 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,880 We strength train. 548 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,140 We go on hikes. 549 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:22,120 We have dinner. 550 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:28,960 We do another restorative yoga class and we sleep and then we repeat that every day. 551 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,960 I want to go on this other day. 552 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,960 I mean this. 553 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,960 I mind is there with you, Terry. 554 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,080 I want to be there. 555 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,080 My body wants to be there. 556 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,560 Oh, that sounds perfect. 557 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,000 Yeah, that is beautiful. 558 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000 And do you have, you know, women that go through kind of emotional changes during that time? 559 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Every time. 560 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,080 And something that's really interesting that happens that I'm always blown away by this. 561 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,400 Women come there from all over the United States and they don't know each other when 562 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,040 they pack their suitcases. 563 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:05,400 And every once in a while, they will all, we all come out in the same color or matching 564 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,400 colors. 565 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,000 That synchronicity you were just talking about. 566 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Yeah. 567 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,880 And coordinating colors and, you know, pink, white, pink, white, pink, white. 568 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,920 And I'm like, how did you guys do that? 569 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,600 I have no idea how it happens, but there's vibes, girl. 570 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,600 Yeah. 571 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,000 There's a synchronicity. 572 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,160 There's also a lot of groups that have really uncharacteristic things in common that are 573 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:40,840 very obscure and they discover all these things and they become connected for a long time. 574 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,640 There's chats going on and group chats and people are very encouraging and inspiring. 575 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:53,160 And it's so cool because a couple of weeks ago I had an ultra marathon runner who does 576 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,800 100 mile marathons. 577 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,440 I always just, she is a queen. 578 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,560 And again, for our listeners, a hundred miles is like a lot of kilometers. 579 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600 It's way more than a hundred kilometers. 580 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Yes. 581 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Well, it's funny that you just mentioned that, by the way, because, you know, in the beginning 582 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,640 of this interview, you were talking to us about how you had to do a lot of work alone, 583 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,640 right? 584 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,280 You did work with a coach, you tried a therapist, but in the end it was really you. 585 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,700 But then with these retreats, obviously the community aspect is so huge. 586 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:29,240 Can you talk about how women can go about finding a community if they are struggling 587 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,480 to do it on their own? 588 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,600 So when I was working with my coach and I still have a coach, by the way, there is a 589 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,560 community aspect to it. 590 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:44,320 And there are other teammates that are also being coached by the same coach. 591 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:52,920 And I firmly believe that that was the secret sauce to my success was the community and 592 00:35:52,920 --> 00:36:00,800 the support that I gained from this experience because we were all in a way in this boot 593 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,240 camp together and we were all starting at the same time. 594 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,280 We were all doing all these things together. 595 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,720 And despite the fact that I may not have been at their level or someone was further along 596 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,120 or I was further along, it didn't really matter. 597 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:23,680 We all kind of worked together and cheered each other on. 598 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:30,780 And so the retreats are a very similar type of experience because from all walks of life, 599 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:38,720 women come with all kinds of levels of fitness and with all kinds of different challenges 600 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,840 that they faced in the past or currently are facing. 601 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:50,880 And they get to feel like they're not alone in this because I think that that feeling 602 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,720 of loneliness and disconnection is a lot of times what causes us to kind of give up because 603 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,680 we feel like it doesn't matter. 604 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,680 Nobody cares. 605 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,080 It's just me. 606 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,280 And so that's a very common story that I hear a lot. 607 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,440 And I think you're absolutely right that there's a level of individual resilience that you 608 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,440 have to develop. 609 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,440 You get it. 610 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,680 Like only you can lift the weight, right? 611 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,720 Only you can put the food in your mouth. 612 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:22,240 But at the end of the day, there has to be a community of somebody that understands and 613 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,640 supports you. 614 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,200 If you want to make a change, surround yourself with people that are living that change. 615 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,920 You want to avoid the opposite, by the way, avoid those who are detracting from your journey. 616 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,280 That's definitely not the people you want to be around. 617 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,400 And in terms of the community of women, the broader community of women, I want to transition 618 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,320 a bit into thinking about not women in our 40s necessarily, but our daughters. 619 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,560 You went through this incredible weight loss journey literally in front of your daughter, 620 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,560 right? 621 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,920 I mean, she is cognizant of age watching you go through this. 622 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,920 How did you talk about the changes you were making with her? 623 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,720 And what tips can you give moms that struggle to have weight positive conversations with 624 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,480 their daughters around food and movement and health? 625 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,920 You know, I never really talked about it directly. 626 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880 I just did it. 627 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,880 I did it. 628 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,480 There was really no conversation while I was doing it about what I was doing, why I was 629 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,480 doing it. 630 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,920 It was, you know, I never really called myself fat. 631 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:26,240 And I was never using language that was derogatory towards myself, really ever. 632 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,800 I joke around about it. 633 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,600 You know, it's as a matter of fact, like, yeah, I was fat. 634 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:37,440 But as I was wearing that body at the time, I never really said those things out loud 635 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,720 because I just don't think that that was really necessary. 636 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:46,000 You know, it was obvious what was happening. 637 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,540 But she did watch me weigh my food. 638 00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:53,600 She did watch me make different types of food. 639 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,760 She did notice that I wouldn't eat takeout anymore. 640 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,960 There was less and less takeout. 641 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,640 I wasn't eating the pizza and I was eating something else. 642 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,240 And you know, she's currently 16 years old. 643 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,840 So that was about five years ago. 644 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,320 She was 11. 645 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:21,120 And the outcome is that almost 17, she's going to be 17 in September. 646 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,580 The outcome is that she loves going to the gym. 647 00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:25,400 She loves lifting weights. 648 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,520 She can do macros better than me. 649 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480 That's incredible that she kind of she. 650 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Yeah. 651 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,480 Use your example as educational. 652 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,480 Yes. 653 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,480 Yes. 654 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,160 And she has an app and she asked me because she trains for soccer and they have nutritional 655 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,160 requirements. 656 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,360 Obviously, if you're weightlifting and strength training, it's very important that the coaches 657 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,000 in high school tell her that it's important to eat enough protein, to have enough fuel, 658 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,960 to be able to withstand two hour training sessions for training season and games and 659 00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,960 things like that. 660 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:04,080 So she asked me, she said, can you show me how to track my macros? 661 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,800 And so I gave her the app and she was literally it took a day and I was like, wow, that took 662 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,800 me. 663 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,800 That took me a year. 664 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:18,080 That's amazing that they're encouraging her to eat more food to support her nutritional, 665 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,280 you know, her energy requirements rather than, you know, her thinking, oh, I need to stop 666 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680 eating or I need to reduce my calories. 667 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,520 Because I think there was especially when we were growing up, there's always this fine 668 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,160 line wasn't there of, you know, you can't eat too much. 669 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,600 Whereas I feel like the fact that now people are in kids, especially our training and their 670 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,000 exercising and they're playing sports, their energy requirement is so much higher that 671 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:47,640 they need to ensure that they're getting enough of the macros and enough of the energy in 672 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,800 so they can sustain their goals. 673 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,800 Yes, exactly. 674 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:57,560 Yeah, there are many, many different opinions on giving tracking tools to adolescents and 675 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,560 teenagers. 676 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,560 Right. 677 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,480 And you know, this is not the purpose of this entire podcast episode. 678 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,560 But Terry, I think you've pointed out something really important. 679 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,880 I do a lot of work with teenage athletes. 680 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,720 That's one of my kind of outreach groups that I work on here in Singapore. 681 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,480 And I am constantly encouraging parents to educate themselves in those tools to get what 682 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,240 I call nutrition literate. 683 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,800 You know, like you said, what's a macro? 684 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,760 I bet a lot of our listeners don't quite even know what a day is or couldn't, you know, 685 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,760 couldn't drop what they are. 686 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,960 There's three of them, by the way, protein, fats and carbs. 687 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,960 Four if you include alcohol. 688 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,960 Four of you, yeah. 689 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,960 Four if you include non-nutritive. 690 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,960 Absolutely. 691 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,000 But point being, it's like we need to be nutrition literate so that we're aware of some of the 692 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,080 deficiencies that our kids might be facing, especially if they're highly athletic. 693 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,280 You know, we talk a lot in my presentations about red S, relative energy deficiency in 694 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,280 sport. 695 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,320 You don't know if you have an energy deficiency unless you know the energy intake. 696 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,600 And this is why, you know, when people say, I don't want my kid tracking because I don't 697 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,320 want them getting obsessed with deficit. 698 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,400 Well, you should definitely make sure that they get obsessed with minimums, you know, 699 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,280 meaning making sure that they're eating enough. 700 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,440 And especially young girls where we see, obviously, during pubescence, hormonal and bone density 701 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,720 issues are the first, this is where they can emerge for the first time that will last the 702 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:11,720 lifelong. 703 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,720 So, you know, I think, Terry, while some folks might say, wow, that's really intense that 704 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:20,320 she taught her kid how to do macros, on the flip side, it's a way of educating your daughter. 705 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,520 And it's great that she's using those tools to enhance her soccer career. 706 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,520 That's awesome. 707 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,240 I love that you said that because the first thing we did discover when she started using 708 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:33,640 the tracker was how underfed she actually was. 709 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:39,360 She didn't know what she should eat and how much of it she should eat. 710 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,560 And there's always this fear, right, that I'm eating too much. 711 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,400 But essentially that how that shows up on the field is that you're fatigued really quickly. 712 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,760 You have zero energy and you can't perform. 713 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,240 And then, you know, people start looking for the most, you know, out there answer, you 714 00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,320 know, what's wrong with me? 715 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,320 What's wrong with me? 716 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,320 You're hungry. 717 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,040 Yes, your body's looking for fuel that is not there. 718 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,040 That's what it is. 719 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,040 Yeah. 720 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,720 So you're you're absolutely right. 721 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,400 And, you know, I've worked with kids in this capacity, I said, for years, and I can count 722 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:20,320 on one hand, one literal hand in hundreds, how many kids are actually overfed or overnourished 723 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,320 versus those that are actually underfed, undernourished or have, you know, when we say undernourished, 724 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,180 don't aren't meeting their nutrient requirements. 725 00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:30,120 So yeah, it's a it's a far greater problem on the other side, believe me, especially 726 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,160 for athletic kids. 727 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,680 So you know, we've had a wonderful conversation here today, Terry, and your story, I'm sure, 728 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,360 is inspiring and relatable for so many women. 729 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,760 And I thank you for being candid with some of your struggles. 730 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,280 What would you consider to be your 40s formula? 731 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,040 You started this journey in your 40s. 732 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,920 You finished it in your 40s. 733 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,640 What is kind of the the nuts and bolts of what you can tell women to achieve similar 734 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,040 results in their 40s? 735 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,560 Cut out the stuff you don't want to be doing anymore. 736 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Right. 737 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,160 So there's a lot of women transitioning from the workplace because they don't want their 738 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:11,880 energy drained in places where they're not being appreciated. 739 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:18,400 Don't be afraid to make bold, drastic changes. 740 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:25,240 Sometimes it takes 40 years, 45 years, whatever that is, to discover what your actual purpose 741 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:29,160 in life is, to discover what you're meant to do. 742 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,640 And each one of us has a gift that we can bring to the world. 743 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,200 And maybe now is your time. 744 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:42,760 So if you feel that pull towards a different calling, don't be afraid. 745 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,800 The universe will help you if you are properly aligned with that. 746 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,800 That's number two. 747 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600 I see that a lot. 748 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,920 A lot of women spend the majority of their lives being miserable. 749 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:03,620 And that creates a cascade of other problems that are health related. 750 00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:10,320 And the third is take care of yourself now, because when you're 60 years old, when you're 751 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:17,160 80 years old, when you're 100 years old, you're going to look back at this time and be grateful 752 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,760 that you took a pause, you took care of yourself, you changed what you had to change, and you're 753 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:31,600 going to live a healthy, happy, fulfilled, content life rather than live a life with 754 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,600 regret. 755 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,160 Oh, girl, I love it. 756 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,220 Cut what is not serving you anymore. 757 00:45:37,220 --> 00:45:41,600 Do not be afraid to make the big and drastic changes that you need and do it now. 758 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,240 Your future self will thank you. 759 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:44,240 Yeah. 760 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,480 Terry, we have loved having you on the podcast today. 761 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600 Thank you for sharing your wisdom, your experience, and again, your journey. 762 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,080 We appreciate it so much. 763 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,440 Thank you. 764 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,440 Thank you so much. 765 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,400 It was a pleasure being here. 766 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,400 Thank you. 767 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,400 Have a good evening. 768 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:09,080 After talking to our amazing guests all day in studio, we need a good drink to refocus 769 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,600 and let's be honest, we could use a dash more energy too. 770 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,600 Oh, I totally feel that. 771 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,000 There's so many energy drinks out there packed with sugar and so much caffeine that you end 772 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,200 up crashing hard. 773 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,120 That's actually why I switched over to Flojo, Asia's first productivity drink. 774 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,960 It hits the sweet spot for me between needing a little bit of a boost, but not wanting to 775 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:31,080 chug a bunch of caffeine and Flojo actually has 80% less caffeine than your average coffee 776 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,080 with no added sugar. 777 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,760 I also love that Flojo is a functional health drink. 778 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,240 It has seven organic new tropics and adaptions in saturation, mushroom for a stronger immune 779 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:44,120 system and rhodiola for mental resilience, but the fruit and tea flavors are still light 780 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,800 and fresh, not weird. 781 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,080 Flojo actually helps me stay calm and in control. 782 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,060 So when I get home after work, I can just be immediately present with my family, not 783 00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:55,720 all jacked up in jittery like I might feel after a later day coffee. 784 00:46:55,720 --> 00:47:07,880 And you can get free shipping when you order directly from their website at www.drinkflojo.com. 785 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,800 This is Paul, our editor. 786 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,520 He's a 25 year old unmarried Singaporean guy listening to the ramblings of 12 older 787 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,620 women on everything from menopause to weightlifting to sex. 788 00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:21,000 So Paul, what's your thoughts on today's conversation? 789 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,800 Personally, I can't imagine shredding 80 kilos of... 80 kilos? 790 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,800 No, no, no, that's wrong. 791 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,360 80 pounds of weight, which is maybe about 35 kilos of weight in your forties. 792 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,960 And I would imagine it's actually a lot of weight and a lot of hard work, a lot of sweat 793 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,560 and time and sheer determination. 794 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,440 So kudos to you, Terry. 795 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,400 And of course, wishing everyone out there all the best with your weight loss and strength 796 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,400 training journeys. 797 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,400 See ya. 798 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,400 Guys, you know how much we love coffee? 799 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,320 And if you want to show us some love, you know you can get us one. 800 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,080 Just visit buymeacoffee.com slash the forties formula. 801 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,640 Cheers. 802 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,360 Before we go, please remember to hit subscribe and take a moment to support the forties formula 803 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,800 by leaving a review on your favorite podcast 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00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:26,240 Are you anywhere near Montclair? 817 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:27,560 That's where one of my best friends lives. 818 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,120 Yes, actually about I would say 30 minutes from Montclair. 819 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,120 Okay. 820 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,360 And again, I've never been to Montclair and mind you, but I know that that's where she 821 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,640 moved out of, she left the city or left, left, you know, the main city, I guess. 822 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,640 Yeah. 823 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,640 It's a very pretty area. 824 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,240 Oh, it's, it looks beautiful. 825 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,640 And I know, I mean, I know what I know about is I know that you have all the resources 826 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,640 there. 827 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,320 You know, you've got the Rutgers Institute there to do all your metabolic testing. 828 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,200 It's a wonderful place health wise to live, which we'll get into. 829 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,560 Yeah, I've never been Jersey. 830 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,360 Yeah, no, I've been to New York, Manhattan, but never to Jersey. 831 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,880 Maybe maybe there's a place I need to visit. 832 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,720 Are you a recovering New Yorker, Terry? 833 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,720 Yes, I am. 834 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:14,560 So I lived and worked in New York for probably about 15 years, and then migrated to New Jersey. 835 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,600 So what I am what you call bridge and tunnel people. 836 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,640 Yes, you are. 837 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:37,800 I didn't say you said it.