1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,560 because of menopause, right? 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,120 There's lack of sleep, there's mood swings, 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,520 you're suddenly feeling anxious all the time, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,080 your cortisol levels are all time high, right? 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,280 So many factors again contribute to leading hair fall. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,400 I saw this thing on Instagram, 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,160 which said that you inherit your dad's hair genes, 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,920 and I'm like, oh, thanks, dad, I'm gonna be... 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Both dad's hair genes. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Both dad's hair genes. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,120 No, my dad has hardly any hair. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Oh, okay. 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,240 LAUGHS 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Hey, hey, and welcome to the 40s Formula, 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,560 your go-to place for insightful discussions 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,680 on navigating the 40s and thriving in this transformative decade. 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,760 We're your hosts, Jasmine and Amanda, 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,800 two women that are passionate about exploring 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,640 the challenges and adventures that come with turning 40 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,960 and what lies ahead. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Today's guest is Dr. Pooja Chhabra. 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,080 As a leading trichologist, 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Dr. Pooja Chhabra brings unparalleled expertise 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,240 in hair and scalp health, 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,120 specializing in one-on-one consultations 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,120 and personalized treatment plans. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,480 Dr. Pooja has helped countless individuals 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,760 achieve their hair wellness goals. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,240 With a deep understanding of hair products and their effects, 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,880 she provides tailored solutions that make a real difference. 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Beyond trichology, Dr. Pooja is the co-founder 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,280 of Nuskai Skincare, a luxury vegan brand 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,520 dedicated to innovative skincare solutions for Indian skin. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Their holistic approach to beauty and wellness 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,680 sets them apart in the industry. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,280 So I feel like we've been super open on the 40s formula 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,400 about so many topics, right? 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,560 We talk about menopause, we talk about botox, 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,720 we talk about sex, but there's still a topic 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,360 that I think a lot of women are not ready to face 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,960 and they feel really vulnerable about, 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,880 and that's midlife hair thinning and hair loss, 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,000 and more so how that affects how we feel about ourselves, 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,320 how we feel about our appearance 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,280 and kind of how we present ourselves to the world. 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,520 So we are so lucky to have board-certified trichologist 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Dr. Pooja Chhabra with us today, 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,800 and she's gonna help us talk through 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,720 some of the most common issues in hair and skin 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,760 and aesthetics and how we can do better. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,360 So welcome Pooja. 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Thank you so much Jasmine and Amanda for having me. 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Yeah, we are so happy to have you. 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:33,880 I'm so glad to be here. 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,040 It's a pleasure. 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,480 And I think for many of us, right, 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,200 and I'm talking from personal experience here, 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,760 so you can definitely contradict me as the pro, 59 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,040 but the first time we experience real hair loss 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,080 is postpartum, right? 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,400 That's the first time you see clumps of hair falling out, 62 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,640 you feel it in the shower, you have your little ponytail 63 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,120 that used to be a nice big ponytail, 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,040 and you think, holy cow, and I hear from a lot of women 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,760 that their hair loss kind of started at that time 66 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,640 and then just kind of kept on going through menopause, right? 67 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:02,120 And so then you end up with this like half head of hair. 68 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Can you talk us through the timeline for women's hair aging, 69 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,480 if that's even a term, and what we might expect? 70 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,840 Yes, absolutely. 71 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,840 So just to add in here that almost about 85% of women 72 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,840 will face some or the other kinds of hair or scalp issue 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,040 by the age of 50. 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Wow. 75 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,960 And almost about 50% will complain 76 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,600 of some kind of hair fall issue by the age of 40. 77 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Oh, wow. 78 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,160 So it's very, very common, and yes, 79 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 postpartum is one of the major reasons 80 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,920 why women go through hair fall, 81 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,880 and then it sort of continues because you don't know 82 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,040 how to manage it after a point of time, 83 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,120 and then the androgenetic alopecia, 84 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,800 which is the female pattern hair loss that kicks in, 85 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,120 and also there are so many other factors, 86 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,480 such as nutritional deficiency, 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,360 there's stress, lack of sleep, 88 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,080 there's so many things that you're juggling with 89 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,680 at the same time, and all of these factors add in together, 90 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,200 and then they contribute to even more hair loss. 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,880 So you hit on lifestyle there, right? 92 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,560 So nutrition, sleep, are there specific nutrients or foods 93 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,120 that we should be eating for better hair? 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,560 Yes, absolutely. 95 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,720 So diet plays a very big role in taking care of your hair, 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,280 and when it comes to hair, 97 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,200 I always believe in a holistic approach. 98 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,120 So not just one particular food type will help. 99 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,720 You need to make sure that you're consuming 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,040 enough protein in your diet, 101 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,920 omega-3 fatty acids, 102 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,280 you need to have enough antioxidants in your diet. 103 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:32,000 So all of these things together actually help 104 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,720 in improving your hair as well as your skin. 105 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Amazing. 106 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:36,720 And by the way, those are all the things 107 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,800 that as nutritionists, we would recommend, right? 108 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Is we always say protein first, 109 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,720 omega-3 make up the majority of your fatty acids, 110 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,760 get your antioxidants, so that's good to hear 111 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,600 that it's good for our hair as well. 112 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Our hair is 98% protein, it's made of keratin. 113 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,400 So there's no way you can do without protein in your diet. 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,680 Oh, girl, preach on, okay? 115 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,760 We could not talk enough about protein on this podcast, 116 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,920 so we're very happy to hear that. 117 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,280 So Jasmine, I don't know about you, 118 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:01,840 but lately I've been struggling to keep up 119 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:02,880 with the grocery shopping. 120 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Between work and the kids and everything in between, 121 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,680 it feels impossible to plan healthy meals 122 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,440 without constantly running to the store. 123 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,840 Oh my God, I know exactly what you mean. 124 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,640 I feel like I've got everything and then bam, 125 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,560 something's missing. 126 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,160 So that's why I've started using the meat club. 127 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Okay, tell me more, this sounds like a total lifesaver. 128 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,840 They deliver high quality meats, fish, 129 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,200 and fresh fruit and veggies straight to your door. 130 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,680 No more last minute grocery runs 131 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,360 or stressing about what to cook. 132 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,960 And everything is top notch to help you create 133 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,760 a healthy and balanced diet for yourself and your family. 134 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,160 They even have a flexible subscription service too. 135 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,240 Okay, I just had a look 136 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,520 and that subscription service sounds amazing. 137 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,000 You can get up to 15% off your basket, 138 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,880 free mints for life on orders over $100. 139 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Plus they offer over $160 worth of exclusive perks 140 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,440 and give you the flexibility to edit your cart 141 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,600 or change your delivery day anytime. 142 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,920 Just head over to the meat club and use our code TFF12 143 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,640 for 12% off your first order. 144 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,680 Just visit themeatclub.com.sg 145 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,080 and give them a follow on Instagram at the meat club SG 146 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,920 for recipes, updates, and special offers. 147 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,920 Right, now let's go back to the chat. 148 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,320 Do you know what I noticed? 149 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,800 And I know you said that sort of the first serious 150 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,920 hair loss problem was postpartum. 151 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,640 For me, it was actually moving to Singapore. 152 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,600 And I had lovely thick hair, no more. 153 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,800 But seriously, when I moved to Singapore, 154 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 and I think I see a lot in the forums as well, 155 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,040 women are complaining about the amount of hair they're losing. 156 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,800 Is that, does the climate also affect the way we lose hair? 157 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,160 Yes, it does. 158 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,120 So when it comes to Singapore weather, 159 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,040 because it is so hot and humid, 160 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:48,440 there is a lot of dehydration that you feel throughout the day. 161 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,480 And dehydration leads to dry scalp, itchy scalp. 162 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,880 It also increases inflammation in your scalp. 163 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,280 And that can ultimately lead to hair fall. 164 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,840 When it also comes to water in Singapore, 165 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:03,200 I also think that could be one of the factors 166 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,160 because the water here is chemically treated. 167 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,400 And that can also lead to hair fall in certain cases as well. 168 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,240 Yeah. 169 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,680 That is scary, you know? 170 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,800 And I always wondered whether it was like the heat things, 171 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,760 you know, when it's the summer, dogs molt. 172 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,440 I was going to say you shed like a dog, 173 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,680 but I didn't want to say it. 174 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Yeah, basically, shed like a dog. 175 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,520 But interestingly said about the water, 176 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,960 so I remember a friend of mine got a special showerhead fit. 177 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Do you recommend stuff like that? 178 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Is it like the vitamin C one? 179 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Possibly. 180 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,440 Vitamin C showerheads or? 181 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,920 No, I think just filtered water. 182 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Just filtered, okay. 183 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Yeah, that would be great if you can add on. 184 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Okay, I know what I'm asking for for Christmas. 185 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Hey Amanda, you know how much I love clean home cooked food? 186 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 There's just something about knowing exactly 187 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,240 what goes into your meal, right? 188 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Yeah, but let's also be real. 189 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Sometimes it's just not possible to cook at home 190 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,520 with our busy schedules. 191 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,400 I know, but that's why I've been loving Guzmine Gomez. 192 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,680 They've taken fast food and they've made it healthy. 193 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,480 You get fresh quality ingredients, 194 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,640 all cooked from scratch, no processed stuff, 195 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,040 just real food. 196 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Oh, I love that so much. 197 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,000 So even when I cannot cook at home, 198 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,800 I don't have to compromise on eating clean. 199 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Yep, and GYG offers everything from burritos, 200 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,240 bowls and salads packed with fresh veggies, 201 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,760 lean meats and wholesome grains 202 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,360 and no added preservatives or artificial flavors. 203 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,680 And the best part for me is that it is fast. 204 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,840 So you're not stuck waiting forever for a healthy meal 205 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,120 when you're already in a rush. 206 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Yep, for me, I love that I can customize my own meal too. 207 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,920 I'll have a burrito bowl, no rice, double protein. 208 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Yes, please. 209 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,440 Just head to your nearest GUYG 210 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 or order delivery with ease through their Instagram 211 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,880 and social media platforms at no price markups. 212 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,640 Trust me, it is the perfect solution 213 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,360 when you want something quick, healthy and delicious 214 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,560 because clean is the new healthy. 215 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:49,920 Sounds like a win to me. 216 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Now let's get back to the chat. 217 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Okay, get me a filter. 218 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Well, so that actually, so, you know, okay, 219 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,760 now we know filtered water is best for your hair. 220 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,680 But in terms of like the actual products you put on your hair, 221 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:04,160 see, this is something that I'm always mystified by, right? 222 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,760 I go to the store, okay, and again, I ain't fancy. 223 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,240 So I see like Pantene, Herbal Essence, whatever. 224 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,720 And I'm thinking like, this probably is not good for me, 225 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,480 but how do I do better? 226 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Like, how do I look at a hair care product 227 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,280 and know what's good for me? 228 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,680 So this is a very common problem. 229 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:21,320 And so many people, you know, 230 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,960 I've seen so many patients who complain about this 231 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,520 that we see tens and thousands of products on the rack 232 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920 and we don't know which one is going to work for us. 233 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Nope, I go on smell. 234 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,480 And I don't, I'm a little... 235 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,320 Yeah. 236 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,160 I'm with you on that. 237 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Yes, so the best way to see what shampoo or conditioner 238 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,280 would work for you, I'm going to give you a very good tip here. 239 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,080 What you can actually do is we can, 240 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,200 you can do this quick hair porosity test. 241 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Oh, okay. 242 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:53,080 Now what happens with hair porosity test is, 243 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,000 this is basically to test how dehydrated 244 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,600 or how damaged your hair is. 245 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,440 Okay, okay. 246 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,280 So our hair... 247 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Sounds pretty bad. 248 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,440 I'm bleaching. 249 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,120 But it's something that you can very quickly test on your own. 250 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,960 You don't need, you know, any help from outside. 251 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Something very easily you can do it at home. 252 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,000 And once you know how damaged your hair is, 253 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,000 it's very easy for you to choose the products based on that. 254 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Okay. 255 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,200 So as you know that our hair shaft has a cuticle, 256 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,320 like a shield around it, right? 257 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,120 When the cuticle opens up, 258 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,680 that's when, you know, our hair starts getting into split ends 259 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,040 and it gets more damaged. 260 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,760 So regular coloring, 261 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,680 like regular treatments will open up the cuticle of your hair 262 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:36,040 and it causes frizziness and dryness 263 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,600 and damages your hair, right? 264 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,720 When you do the hair porosity test, 265 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,240 you can actually figure out how damaged it is. 266 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,760 And based on that, you can choose the products. 267 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 So the hair porosity test, how you do it, 268 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,200 is that you take a cup of water, 269 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,520 take it in a transparent cup so you can see it, 270 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,720 take a strand of your hair, the hair that you're shedding. 271 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,720 So when you just, you know, pull a hair out of your... 272 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,560 That's can be easy. 273 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:01,640 It's not a problem. 274 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Take a strand and dip it into the water. 275 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,160 If the hair strand stays at the top of the water, 276 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,560 that means it's of low porosity. 277 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:13,440 If it isn't, you know, slightly in the middle, 278 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,560 that's medium porosity. 279 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:17,560 And then if it dips down, all the way down, 280 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:19,320 then this is high porosity. 281 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,040 And you do this for about three minutes. 282 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 That's the observation time, right? 283 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,440 If it dips deep down, that means the hair is highly porous, 284 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,480 the cuticle is open. 285 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,920 That means your hair is damaged. 286 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,760 Which is not good, right? 287 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,600 Which is not good. 288 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,440 This is not a good one. 289 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,280 Yes. 290 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,400 So that means you need to look for products 291 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,920 where you can actually focus on damaged hair. 292 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Okay? 293 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:43,720 And this is where you have to go 294 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,520 for the sulfate-free shampoos. 295 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Okay. 296 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,720 And what does that mean, sulfate-free? 297 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Okay. 298 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,000 So there are, sulfate is basically a surfactant, right? 299 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,360 It's a cleansing agent. 300 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,320 And a lot of shampoos and conditioners 301 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,800 and even skincare products contain sulfate. 302 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Nothing wrong in it, okay? 303 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,960 Very well studied ingredient, very well researched, 304 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,400 absolutely safe, but it may not work for everybody. 305 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,240 Right? 306 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,400 So I absolutely don't believe in fear-mongering 307 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,440 and just telling people about, 308 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,520 oh, completely stay away from this one particular ingredient. 309 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,840 It's never like that. 310 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:19,680 Right? 311 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:20,640 You need to know what works for you 312 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,320 and what doesn't work for you. 313 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,200 So if you are somebody who has a very damaged hair, 314 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,280 what sulfate would do is, 315 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,280 it will basically extract all the oil and the sebum out. 316 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,000 Now when your hair is already dehydrated 317 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 and it's not able to retain any moisture 318 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,880 and you're making it even more drier, 319 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,360 that is going to cause further damage. 320 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,200 Right? 321 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,160 So that's when you actually stay away from the sulfate 322 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,280 and you go for a sulfate-free shampoo 323 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,960 and you go looking for more hair masks 324 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,640 and you add in a conditioner, 325 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,960 you make sure that you're always oiling your hair properly 326 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,520 because you want to make sure that your cuticle is closed 327 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,000 and it's working as a shield 328 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 and it's protecting your hair. 329 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Right? 330 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,960 So very easy to test with this hair porosity test 331 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,800 that I'm recommending. 332 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,760 I know what we're doing this afternoon. 333 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,600 Oh yeah, first get me to go checking all the bottles. 334 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,440 Yes. 335 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Yes. 336 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,520 And then you can sort of navigate 337 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,480 what will work better for you. 338 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Amanda, I'm going to be honest with you. 339 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Sometimes my kids just don't poop. 340 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,800 For real, I actually hear you. 341 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,560 With two little ones and a baby, 342 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:35,640 the poop situation around our house is very, very real. 343 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,200 But since we started taking probiotic plus base 344 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,840 from Akizzi Wellness, it's actually gotten a lot better. 345 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,200 Probiotic plus base is such an easy way 346 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,840 to get 10 probiotic species 347 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,040 and a good hit of prebiotic fiber 348 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,960 into your entire family's diet. 349 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,720 And you can sprinkle it on yogurt, 350 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,800 mix it into cereals, 351 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,920 and even combine it into infant milk products. 352 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Yeah, when my son transitioned on to formula 353 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,640 and had some weird tummy troubles, it was a lifesaver. 354 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,960 And to be honest, for me, 355 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,320 I don't mind taking a spoonful of it right into my mouth 356 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,320 when I'm pressed for time. 357 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,560 We all love a quick fix that actually works, right? 358 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:07,920 That's why we're offering our lucky Singapore listeners 359 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,960 15% off and free shipping all Akizzi products 360 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,960 with code 40s on akizziwellness.com. 361 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,840 That's akizziwellness, A-K-E-S-I wellness.com, 362 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,240 to get a great deal on an easy gut health solution 363 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,560 for the whole family. 364 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,120 And now back to the show. 365 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,360 And you just mentioned, right, 366 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,640 so we all are familiar with the skincare routine 367 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,600 and we'll talk about that in a little bit of, you know, 368 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760 cleanse, tone, moisturize, whatever, right? 369 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,840 So you just mentioned hair, you mentioned hair, 370 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,320 shampoo, conditioner, hair mask. 371 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,560 So I'm already like, oh, hair mask, 372 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,800 that's not something I've ever tried. 373 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Actually, I'm- 374 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Are you a hair mask person? 375 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,400 But I'm a lazy hair mask person because I'm using my, 376 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 it's one of those ones which says it's an all-in-one, 377 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,640 you can use it as a leave-in conditioner, a hair mask, 378 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,200 or like an, yeah. 379 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 And so I basically use it instead of a conditioner. 380 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,160 So I don't know. 381 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,240 But you leave it in? 382 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,080 Or you don't? 383 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Sometimes, if I have, I now have it in the shower, 384 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,480 whereas before it wasn't in the shower, 385 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,560 so then I would be like, oh, I forgot to put it on, 386 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,400 so I'll leave it in. 387 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,280 Yeah, so now at least you've moved it to the mainstream. 388 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,800 And you mentioned hair oiling as well. 389 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,840 So can you talk us through like, 390 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,880 what's an ideal hair care routine? 391 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Like what product, what type of product 392 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,560 should we be using in what order? 393 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Okay, so I cannot tell you a hair care routine in general 394 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,840 because it is so specific and so personalized, 395 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,760 depending on your hair and scalp condition. 396 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,520 I would assume the three of us have very different. 397 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Exactly, yes. 398 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,920 So, but when it comes to the general rule, 399 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,200 I do recommend using a conditioner after every wash. 400 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,680 And I recommend using hair mask at least two times in a week. 401 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,520 Okay. 402 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,720 I need to change it up then. 403 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Yes. 404 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,920 So after you do the conditioning 405 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,520 and you wash your conditioner, 406 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,520 after that you apply your hair mask. 407 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,760 You leave it on for about five to 10 minutes, 408 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,560 depending on how much time you have, 409 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,480 and then you wash it off. 410 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,400 And after that, if you're blow drying your hair, 411 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,160 always apply like a heat protectant, you know, serum. 412 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Oh, I don't do it. 413 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Or yes, something that can sort of form a shield on your hair 414 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,520 because when you expose your hair to so much of heat, 415 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,000 that can also damage your hair, right? 416 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,040 So, and hair styling and drying is something 417 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,120 that we absolutely cannot avoid. 418 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,960 Yeah. 419 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Right, and especially in Singapore, 420 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,480 you absolutely cannot avoid it. 421 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,320 You have to use a blow dryer, 422 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,680 especially when you're waking up in the morning, 423 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,080 you're rushing to work, you have to use it. 424 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Yeah. Yeah. 425 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,680 I thought you were talking about with fridges. 426 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,920 Totally, yeah. 427 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Exactly. 428 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Air drying in the Singapore humidity does not exist. 429 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Exactly. 430 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,480 So you mentioned hair oiling as well. 431 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,560 So this is something, 432 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,440 so when you mentioned hair oiling to me in our pre-air chat, 433 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,480 I was thinking like, 434 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,680 when I went to get an Ayurvedic massage in Sri Lanka, 435 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,960 and they like poured oil onto my hair 436 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,800 and just left it there. 437 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,640 I was like- 438 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,480 That sounds amazing. 439 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,720 It sounds amazing for hair that is not mine 440 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,760 because that oil took a week to get out of my hair. 441 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Wow. 442 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Because I think my hair is very porous and damaged. 443 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,200 And so I was like, oh, this does not work. 444 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,760 This style of massage does not work for me. 445 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,960 But talk to you about what hair oiling is as a practice. 446 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,800 Okay. 447 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,560 Again, not every hair oil can be suitable 448 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,520 for all hair types or scalp types, right? 449 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,320 If you have dandruff or if you have eczema prone skin 450 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,240 or if you have psoriasis or any other kind of condition 451 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,120 on your scalp, let your trichologist recommend you, 452 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:27,520 what treatment you need to follow. 453 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,160 So oiling is not for everybody. 454 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,040 If you already have a very oily scalp, 455 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,680 again, I don't recommend using oils 456 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,280 when you already have very overactive sebaceous glands. 457 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,120 Right? 458 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,840 If you are somebody who has a normal scalp type, 459 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,120 normal to dry, then oiling can be great for you. 460 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:51,760 I do recommend using an almond oil or castor oil 461 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,760 or rosemary oil. 462 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Rosemary oil actually shows very good results 463 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,600 in terms of hair growth. 464 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,440 I recommend using it at least about three times in a week, 465 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,840 about half an hour to 45 minutes before you shampoo. 466 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,680 Oh. 467 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,500 Because that's enough. 468 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:07,340 So on dry hair? 469 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:08,760 Yes, on dry hair, and that's enough time 470 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,840 for the oil to get absorbed into your scalp. 471 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,120 And what oiling actually does is that 472 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:15,640 when you're applying the oil and when you're doing 473 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,120 the massage, it increases blood flow towards your scalp. 474 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:21,240 And when you get enough blood supply 475 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,560 towards your hair follicles, 476 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,680 it gets all the nutrition that it needs 477 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,800 and it grows properly. 478 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,640 Yeah. 479 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,120 That's, I, again, I'd heard the term hair oiling 480 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:32,200 but never knew that it was like a dry hair thing. 481 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,280 I did, again, we're Indian. 482 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,120 And so my mom is always, and my sister always telling me, 483 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:38,440 you need to put oil in your hair. 484 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,200 The thing is, it's a process, isn't it? 485 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,000 So it's like, you need to have, 486 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,320 either someone help you do it 487 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,480 because then you get a nice massage out of it, 488 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,360 or you need to have the time to sort of get it in. 489 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:49,440 Is there a quick way of doing it? 490 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,560 Like, could you just put some oil on your hands 491 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,600 or just rub it in your hair, 492 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,240 or does it need to be massaged into the scalp? 493 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Actually, you don't have to massage it for too long. 494 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Only about five minutes is enough. 495 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,560 Yeah. 496 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,120 And gentle massage, gentle pressure, 497 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:04,720 you don't have to rub it in. 498 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Make sure that your hair is not getting tangled. 499 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,120 You don't have to be very harsh with the massaging. 500 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,760 Gentle massage only for about five minutes 501 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,960 and leave it for about 45 minutes and then you wash. 502 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,640 So it's not as difficult a process. 503 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Also, if you think that you don't have, you know, 504 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,840 the time to do it, what you can do is 505 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,960 you can apply it a night before you go to sleep 506 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,160 and then in the morning you wash it off. 507 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,000 See, that would be more my style. 508 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Yeah, I think that would be better. 509 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,000 Just throw it on, throw a cap, call it a night. 510 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,120 Yes, so you apply it just before you're going to sleep. 511 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,600 Apply it, do a nice massage. 512 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,400 It will actually help you relax also. 513 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Oh yeah. Yeah. 514 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,160 It'd be nice if I can get someone else to do it for me. 515 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,480 Yes, someone else. 516 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,480 I'm gonna know you're listening. 517 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,200 That's you or someone else. 518 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,600 So that just brought it. 519 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,320 We're gonna go off script here for a moment, Dr. Pooja. 520 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,360 So I just made me think of, so right down the street for me, 521 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,600 they just opened this new Korean head spa, right? 522 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,000 And I feel like this is like a thing in Asia, 523 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,280 like these Korean head spas. 524 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,280 As a certified trichologist, 525 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,960 should we indulge in the Korean head spa 526 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,160 is it doing more harm than good? 527 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,120 Like how is that process, 528 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:13,000 where does that fall into your hair care recommendations? 529 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,400 Okay, so the different ways of doing a head spa, right? 530 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,760 I am not sure what products are they exactly using, 531 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,840 what ingredients are there in that product. 532 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,640 So very difficult for me to comment on that. 533 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,760 But in general, hair spa is actually quite good 534 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,240 in terms of really, again, 535 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,000 increasing blood supply towards your scalp 536 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,120 because you're getting enough amount of massage. 537 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:38,720 There's a proper cleansing going on. 538 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,680 They usually do a double shampoo. 539 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,760 So making your scalp clean is again, 540 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,840 it's a big part of keeping a healthy hair 541 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,120 and keeping healthy hair and healthy scalp. 542 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,680 Yeah, so in general, I don't see any problem with it. 543 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,680 Yeah, you can go ahead with it 544 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,920 as long as there are no chemical treatments 545 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,160 and too much of heat tools involved in the hair spa. 546 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,120 What about just general washing? 547 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,280 Do you recommend daily washing of hair once a week, 548 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,400 twice a week? 549 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,560 Is there an ideal amount of time 550 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,480 you should be washing your hair? 551 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,760 Okay, so if you have a very oily scalp 552 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,640 and you have a dandruff-prone scalp, 553 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,360 I recommend washing it every day. 554 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:23,680 And that's because you always hear people say 555 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,160 washing your hair every day is not good for you. 556 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,000 So is that? 557 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,320 So again, this advice cannot be true for everybody, right? 558 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,280 For somebody who has a very oily scalp 559 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,080 and you wash today and your hair's looking oily again tomorrow, 560 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,040 you will need a wash. 561 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,440 And if you're somebody who's working out every single day 562 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,640 and you're sweating so much, this profuse sweating... 563 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Who could you be speaking to? 564 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Yeah. 565 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,920 So just slicking it back and tying it up, doesn't it? 566 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Yes, so you will have to wash it. 567 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,920 If you don't wash it, because of so much of sweating 568 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,800 and overactive sebaceous glands, 569 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,080 there's a very high chance you'll end up getting infection. 570 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,240 You'll end up getting a bacterial infection on your scalp. 571 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,680 There's something called folliculitis that you can get 572 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,400 if you don't wash your hair regularly, 573 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,880 especially if you have an overactive sebaceous gland. 574 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,200 So, yes, depending on the scalp type, 575 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,360 if you have normal scalp type, 576 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:20,840 it doesn't get oily very easily, 577 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,080 you can go with two to three washes in a week, 578 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,120 that's also fine. 579 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,760 And if you have an extremely dry scalp, 580 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,920 I would always recommend doing oiling before you do the wash. 581 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,560 Oh, interesting. Okay. 582 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,600 So it's not necessarily the frequency of washing 583 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,000 so much as your individual scalp and what you've done before. 584 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,440 Yes. 585 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,640 Interesting. Okay. 586 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,360 Now, we talk so much about the hair aspect, right? 587 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:46,520 The hair, the hair, the hair. 588 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,960 But I've heard you keep talking about the scalp. 589 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Yes. 590 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,520 So is hair health really about scalp health first? 591 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,920 Yes, they're very much interrelated. 592 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,280 And your scalp is basically the foundation 593 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,920 of how healthy your hair is going to be. 594 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,320 So your hair can only be as healthy as your scalp, right? 595 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,360 So just how you take care of your skin, 596 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:11,640 similarly, you need to take care of your scalp also. 597 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,360 And you need to understand your scalp type, 598 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:18,560 whether it's oily or dry or sensitive or dehydrated. 599 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,720 And based on that, you choose the products for your hair 600 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,800 and for your scalp, and that's how you go about it. 601 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,880 So personalization is definitely the way, right? 602 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Definitely, yes. 603 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,280 One thing I've noticed is, like I mentioned before, 604 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 I had quite thick hair. 605 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,600 But since going through perimenopause, 606 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,080 my hair has really started thinning out. 607 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,640 What is the reason behind hair loss in this phase of life? 608 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,920 So during menopause, we are going through a lot of changes 609 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,600 with hormones especially, right? 610 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,760 Our estrogen levels fall down drastically during menopause. 611 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,000 And that's one of the reasons why the hair cycle gets disturbed. 612 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,640 So what happens is our hair grows in a certain cycle. 613 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,680 So there are three stages of hair cycle, 614 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,920 which is the hair growth stage, the anagen stage, 615 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880 then comes the telo-gen, the cateogen stage, 616 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,600 and then the hair fall stage, which 617 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,200 is the telogen stage, right, the shedding of hair. 618 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Now, because of the fall in the estrogen levels, 619 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,200 the cycle gets disturbed. 620 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,040 So our hair instantly from the hair growth stage 621 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,440 gets pushed into the telogen stage, which 622 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,080 is the hair shedding phase. 623 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,440 So you're suddenly dropping lots and lots of hair, right? 624 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,960 And also, what happens during menopause 625 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,800 is that there's an increase in your androgen hormone, 626 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,000 specifically the testosterone. 627 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,680 So when there's free testosterone in the body, 628 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,920 that gets converted into a byproduct, 629 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,480 which is known as the DHT, dihydrotestosterone. 630 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,200 And this is the main culprit in both males and females 631 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,360 for causing androgenic alopecia, or female pattern hair loss, 632 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,160 right? 633 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,800 So because of all of these changes 634 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,440 that you're going through, and also there 635 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,360 are so many symptoms that you're managing because of menopause, 636 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:10,880 right? 637 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,560 There's lack of sleep. 638 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,360 There's mood swings. 639 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,760 You're suddenly feeling anxious all the time. 640 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Your cortisol levels are all the time high, right? 641 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,080 So many factors, again, contribute to leading hair 642 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,440 fall. 643 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,800 I saw this thing on Instagram, which 644 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,440 said that you inherit your dad's hair genes. 645 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,680 And I'm like, oh, thanks, dad. 646 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,800 I'm going to be a good dad. 647 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Both dad's hair. 648 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Both dad's hair. 649 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Oh, my dad has hardly any hair. 650 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,320 Oh, OK. 651 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,720 Well, it's funny that you said that, 652 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,560 because I'm thinking of my husband's father. 653 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Because my husband, I mean, you know Tyler's hair. 654 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,520 It's just, I mean, he has the thickest, most lush model 655 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,320 head of hair. 656 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,640 So does his dad. 657 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,120 So lucky. 658 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,000 Unsurprising, right? 659 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,400 So the boys, you're welcome. 660 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Yeah. 661 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,200 Our boys. 662 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Unfortunately, my dad's has gone. 663 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,280 My husband's has gone. 664 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480 So I did, I actually posted on Instagram the other day. 665 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,640 But I was reading out to my son, who was sitting there, 666 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,000 eating an ice cream. 667 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,640 And I said, oh, I'm really sorry, Kian, 668 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,520 but you're going to inherit your dad's hair. 669 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,720 And my husband's bald. 670 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,160 He started crying. 671 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,640 Oh. 672 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,400 Because he's a nine, but he wants 673 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,880 to have a good head of hair. 674 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,640 Don't we all? 675 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,360 No, he can. 676 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,280 And OK, so when it comes to genetics, 677 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080 there's a very beautiful line that I read, 678 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,280 that genetics could be your trigger, but you pull the gun. 679 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Yes. 680 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Right? 681 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600 So even though there is a genetic factor, 682 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,600 you can very well take care of it. 683 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,480 And you can very well prevent it. 684 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,800 In today's day and age, nothing is not preventable. 685 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,440 Right? 686 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,320 So I very strongly believe that with the right kind 687 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,400 of lifestyle, with the right kind of nutrition, 688 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,320 and using the right kind of products, 689 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,840 you can very well manage hair fall. 690 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,760 And this is not something that should be bothering you so much 691 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,440 and should be taking away your self-confidence 692 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,120 and taking away your self-worth. 693 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,720 So hair is not something that you should really 694 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,640 focus in terms of relating it to your self-image. 695 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,360 Right? 696 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,640 It's something that you can very easily tackle. 697 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,160 Yeah. 698 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,160 And I think that is something, as women, right? 699 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,080 We really do put a lot of stock in our hair. 700 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Just the way it looks, the length of it. 701 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,200 And that's why when it does start to fall, 702 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,040 it feels like something's breaking down in your femininity. 703 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,640 Because you relate it so much to your self-image 704 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,480 and how you look and how it changes your personality. 705 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,480 And you can very easily see how much it psychologically 706 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,880 affects people, especially when they're losing their hair. 707 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,840 Right? 708 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,120 But it is something that you can do, you know? 709 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,120 You can take care of. 710 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:50,600 Yeah. 711 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,100 Yeah. 712 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,240 So you don't have to worry so much about, 713 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280 what am I going to do about this versus, OK, 714 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,560 I can go to an expert, and I can get the advice, 715 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,360 and do one, two, three, four, five things, 716 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:02,760 and I can take care of it. 717 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Yeah. 718 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,320 And that is so reassuring. 719 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Yeah. 720 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Yes. 721 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Again, it's so great to have a trichologist now 722 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,520 in our network, because I can't say 723 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,680 that I had any knowledge of this area before. 724 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,080 So it's really helpful. 725 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,000 So obviously, you're amazing at hair, OK? 726 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,920 But I do know that you're also a business woman, 727 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,160 and you're also running a successful Asian skincare line. 728 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,480 Can you talk to us about a skincare routine? 729 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,040 So kind of my same question previously 730 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,160 about the hair routine, right? 731 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,360 So, OK, now we know we need shampoos, conditioners, 732 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,160 hair masks. 733 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,700 What do we need to do with our skin? 734 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:32,760 What's all this going to benefit from? 735 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,880 What am I missing, OK? 736 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,360 So I very strongly believe that your skincare and your hair 737 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,760 care should be as easy and as simple to follow, 738 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,760 so that you really follow it through, 739 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,680 and you can be disciplined about it. 740 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040 If it is something which is extremely complicated, 741 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600 and it's going to take like half a day, 742 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,120 I highly recommend don't do it. 743 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Nothing's happening for half a day except my kids. 744 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920 So I hear you. 745 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Yes. 746 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,280 So skincare, it was actually started, you know, 747 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,280 so me and my sister, both of us started the skincare line, 748 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,840 Nuske Skincare. 749 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:15,560 And our main focus was to really focus on self-love, 750 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,720 and really focus on making sure that we pass on 751 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,160 the ancient remedies and the rituals, 752 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,280 because India is so full of beautiful and effective 753 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,960 ancient remedies that people have forgotten about. 754 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000 And we wanted to bring that to the millennials, 755 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,160 to the Gen Zs. 756 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960 And the Z millennials. 757 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,560 And the millennials, yes. 758 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,680 And make sure that you can use it in an easy, fuss-free manner, 759 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520 and in the most effective way possible. 760 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,360 So what we have really done with Nuske 761 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,320 is that we have combined the old age remedies with the actives. 762 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,440 We brought them together, and then we give you 763 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,360 the best of both the worlds. 764 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Yes. 765 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,360 Amazing. 766 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:00,860 Yes. 767 00:30:00,860 --> 00:30:05,000 So when it comes to skincare, again, our main focus 768 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,800 is to make sure that your skin is hydrated, 769 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,800 it's well-nourished, it's protected, 770 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,200 and then you focus on whatever needs to be repaired. 771 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,880 If you can just work on these three basic principles, 772 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,520 you will not have to worry about 10,000 skincare products 773 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200 and 10 skincare steps. 774 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,280 Yeah, these nine-step skincare routines 775 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,400 that you see on TikTok, right? 776 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,520 It's like, ain't nobody got time for nine steps. 777 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Like, I got a maximum three. 778 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,260 Exactly. 779 00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:34,080 It's not sustainable. 780 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,280 And whatever is not sustainable will not be followed through. 781 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760 So you make it as per your routine, 782 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040 and focus on these main aspects. 783 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,240 So if you have a sunscreen in your skincare routine, 784 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,360 if you have a good cleanser in your skincare routine, 785 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,440 and if you have actives in your skincare routine, overall, 786 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,680 I think you're good to go. 787 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,240 OK. 788 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,760 That's so reassuring to hear. 789 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,720 I can handle that. 790 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Yes. 791 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,960 And in terms of sunscreen, I feel 792 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,280 like there's now this whole backlash against sunscreen. 793 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,000 If we wear too much sunscreen, it's 794 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,600 going to affect our vitamin D absorption and all this stuff. 795 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,760 What's your overall opinion on sunscreen? 796 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,360 OK, sunscreen is absolutely 100% necessary. 797 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,080 You cannot do without it. 798 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,800 Even if you are indoors, I highly 799 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,200 recommend using a sunscreen. 800 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,080 And when it comes to vitamin D absorption, 801 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,800 vitamin D cannot be just absorbed from the face. 802 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,920 We mostly just apply sunscreen on the face. 803 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Although we should be applying it on our hands 804 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,040 and all the exposed areas. 805 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,600 But most people only end up applying on their face. 806 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Guilty. 807 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Yes. 808 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Like one that runs. 809 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,800 Yes. 810 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,400 But we need to apply it on all the exposed areas. 811 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,320 But for vitamin D absorption, firstly, you 812 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,000 have to be really in the sun early in the morning. 813 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,880 And you have to be exposed maximum amount of your body 814 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,800 to the sunlight for the absorption to really happen. 815 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,640 And how many people are actually doing that? 816 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,720 Yeah. 817 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,760 I mean, definitely. 818 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,760 My husband actually is. 819 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,200 He's Mr. Vitamin D. 820 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840 So he will go outside, walk the kids to school, 821 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,720 until we get to school with no shirt. 822 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,220 Wow. 823 00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:10,520 He's getting the morning sun. 824 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,720 He'll put a shirt on and we walk into the school. 825 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,560 My kids go to school in a temple, by the way. 826 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,840 He definitely cannot approach with no shirt. 827 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,720 But yeah. 828 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,080 But very few people actually end up doing that. 829 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,880 He's now a liar. 830 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,380 Yes. 831 00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:23,720 So please get your vitamin D supplements. 832 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Yes. 833 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,280 And make sure you apply sunscreen. 834 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,120 Yes, because you need to protect yourself 835 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,800 from all the harmful radiations. 836 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120 And sunscreen is not just going to protect you. 837 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,880 It is also great for anti-aging. 838 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,560 So if one thing that you can really 839 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,920 work towards preventive skincare, 840 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,840 it's actually sunscreen. 841 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Well, we have really enjoyed the conversation today, 842 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,480 Dr. Pooja. 843 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280 I mean, not only have you given us tips, 844 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,320 but you've given us ideas, remedies, ways 845 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,160 to fix what we're already doing or improve. 846 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,760 So thank you. 847 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Definitely doing that test today. 848 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,620 Yeah. 849 00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:56,520 I'm floating my hair in a jar the second I get home. 850 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,080 But everyone's final question here on the 40s Formula 851 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840 is, what is your 40s Formula? 852 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,000 If there was some nugget of advice 853 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440 that you could give to women in this decade 854 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360 about living their finest, best, healthiest lives, 855 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,800 what would it be? 856 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,200 OK, so I really feel that 40s is actually 857 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200 a very powerful stage, right? 858 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,640 And this is a stage where you have already 859 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400 gone through a lot of emotions. 860 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,080 You've already gone through a lot of ups and downs. 861 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,160 So now you already know, and you're very much self-aware, 862 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520 of the things that you want in your life 863 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560 and the things that you want to get rid of, right? 864 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,660 So at this stage, I want to request all the women 865 00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:41,640 in this particular stage that instead 866 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,720 of being self-critical, be self-aware. 867 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,300 OK? 868 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:48,240 So when you look in front of the mirror, 869 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,760 and when you're doing your skincare, 870 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,720 and when you're doing your hair care, 871 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,960 instead of focusing on the pigmentation and the fine lines 872 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,320 and the receding hairline and how much your hair 873 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,180 falls happening, focus on really looking in the mirror 874 00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:05,720 and just reaffirming and reassuring yourself 875 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,720 that you are here today to take care of everything. 876 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:14,600 And change your negative thoughts into positive. 877 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,240 Reframe your negative thoughts. 878 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,020 So instead of saying that, oh, look at the fine lines, 879 00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:22,080 say that today I'm going to take care of these fine lines. 880 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,280 Instead of looking at the pigmentation marks 881 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,180 and say that, oh my god, my skin looks so dull, 882 00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:29,960 focus on saying that, OK, today I'm 883 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,040 going to tackle this with my vitamin C. Right? 884 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,000 So the moment you change your focus 885 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,560 and you make these mindful choices, 886 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,400 you're going to enjoy this beautiful phase, 887 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,520 and you're going to love it even more. 888 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,320 From self-critical to self-care. 889 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,280 I love that. 890 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,440 I think that's just such a beautiful thing to say. 891 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,560 And I think everyone can definitely 892 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,800 adopt this mindset for sure. 893 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,300 Thank you. 894 00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:58,200 Thank you so much for being with us, Dr. Prusa. 895 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,840 I hope you're happy with it. 896 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,200 I had a beautiful time. 897 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,700 Thank you. 898 00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:02,440 I had a lovely time chatting with you guys. 899 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,240 OK, this postpartum hair loss is killing me. 900 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,280 I feel like all I see these days after my shower 901 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,160 is my own hair clogging up the drain. 902 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,080 Oh, I feel you. 903 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,720 Perimenopause is doing a number on my hair too. 904 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,300 And whether it's something as major as hormonal hair loss 905 00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:19,960 or just wanting to work on your split ends, your hair regrowth, 906 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,680 or healthier scalp, Dr. Pooja Chabra at Scalp Wellness 907 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,560 can help. 908 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,920 Dr. Pooja is a board certified tracheologist 909 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,480 who makes sure everyone has access to expert advice 910 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,280 and care when it comes to our hair, 911 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,080 offering individualized lifestyle-focused solutions 912 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,000 through her one-on-one consultations. 913 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,240 There's no one way to get better hair, 914 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,940 which is why a personal approach is always the best bet 915 00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:42,800 if you're serious about your scalp. 916 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,240 Visit www.scalpwellness.com to book a consultation 917 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,520 with Dr. Pooja and start working toward the hair 918 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,920 you've always wanted, or in my case, the hair that I need back. 919 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,120 Oh, I hear you. 920 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:59,160 And that's www.scalpwellness.com. 921 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,060 This is Paul, our editor. 922 00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:04,040 He's a 25-year-old unmarried Singaporean guy 923 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,040 listening to the ramblings of 12 older women on everything 924 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,840 from menopause to weightlifting to sex. 925 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,960 So Paul, what's your thoughts on today's conversation? 926 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,460 Hey, guys. 927 00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:13,960 What's up? 928 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,080 Paul here. 929 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,600 So for hair, I think it's something that's actually 930 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,840 pretty important because it forms as a huge part of our looks, 931 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,720 who we are, our self-identity, and maybe even cultural roots 932 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,080 in some cases. 933 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,960 But of course, to me as humans, we are all, actually, 934 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,720 not all visual creatures, but most of us, 935 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,640 we are pretty much visual creatures. 936 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,840 And looks play a huge part in the way we portray ourselves 937 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,400 and maybe even communicate to other people as well. 938 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,360 So I've never actually been through the experience 939 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,640 of boarding before. 940 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,280 But to some people in the way, Dr. Brugger, 941 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,480 I think the word is pretty meaningful, actually, 942 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,640 because it kind of gives people their sense of identity 943 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,760 and identity back in some cases. 944 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,040 So yeah. 945 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,920 So guys, remember to take care of your scalp, 946 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,880 and I'll see you guys in the next one. 947 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120 See ya. 948 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,680 Guys, you know how much we love coffee? 949 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,080 And if you want to show us some love, 950 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,120 you know you can get us one. 951 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,800 Just visit buymeacoffee.com slash The 40s Formula. 952 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,320 Cheers. 953 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600 Before we go, please remember to hit subscribe and take 954 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,360 a moment to support The 40s Formula 955 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,640 by leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. 956 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600 Your reviews will help us to reach more people 957 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,160 and allow us to continue to bring valuable content. 958 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,120 It should only take a moment, and it's a free way 959 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,560 for you to support the show. 960 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,800 You can also stay updated with The 40s Formula 961 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,280 by following us on Instagram, at The 40s Formula. 962 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,560 All one word. 963 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,320 We share behind the scenes insights, episode updates, 964 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,040 and much more. 965 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,800 So please be sure to hit that follow button. 966 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,320 We appreciate your time and support. 967 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,160 Thank you for being part of this community, 968 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640 and we'll be back next week for more empowering conversations 969 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,280 with inspiring guests. 970 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,780 Bye. 971 00:37:53,780 --> 00:37:54,280 Bye. 972 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,280 Bye. 973 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:15,280 Want to chat? 974 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:38,240 How was your breakfast, Vajray? 975 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,240 Sorry? 976 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:40,240 How was your breakfast? 977 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,240 Breakfast was amazing. 978 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,240 You want to hear me? 979 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,240 Yeah, he's just double checking. 980 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,240 Yeah. 981 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,240 Soundcheck. 982 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,240 I had an omelette. 983 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,240 Nice. 984 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,240 Fancy breakfast. 985 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,240 Guess what mine was? 986 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,240 Same thing I always have. 987 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,240 Beef with eggs. 988 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,240 Beef with eggs and wrapped in taco shell. 989 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:55,240 We joke. 990 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,360 So one of our sponsors is actually the meat club. 991 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,680 And so I always joke like the thing I use from the meat club is the beef mince because 992 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,680 I eat it every morning for breakfast. 993 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,680 I hope you find out they're free. 994 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,640 You know you can get free mince for life. 995 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,640 I do. 996 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,640 I do. 997 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:16,000 But yeah.