It's amazing. It smells like lavender. So you know when you normally pop a pill or a supplement, it's got that really sort of earthy
You know like makes you gag
Yeah
You're talking to someone who's on prenatal for like the better half of five years and you know the fact that it just has this
Lovely aroma just makes it so much easier to take down and then also you're not having to pop like ten different pills
You just need to take it is two two pills, right?
Yeah, two pills and it's just so much nicer than having to pop ten where you're just like
Oh
Absolutely. So the lavender I love it as well. It's from the lavender oil
someone asked me recently if it was actually a
fragrance
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Two women that are passionate about exploring the challenges and adventures that come with turning 40 and what lies ahead
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Sarah Eastwood is a seasoned expert in her field and also a passionate advocate of midlife health and wellness for women
She founded Perry Health after recognizing a significant gap in holistic care and natural treatments for menopause as a mother to two beautiful daughters
Sarah understands the intricate balance required to manage personal health and family life
She founded Perry Health to provide women like her expert formulated supplements
Accessible information and a supportive community to navigate the complexities of menopause
Between covid and the political and social situation in the world right now and just the usual professional transitions of women in their 40s
This decade tends to be when so many women find themselves kind of pivoting in their careers
And our guest today, Sarah Eastwood is no stranger to that level of epic change
Sarah, can you tell us a little bit about how you went from your previous corporate life
To being a kick-ass female entrepreneur in the wellness space of all places?
Absolutely. So my transition really started when I had children
So that's when I started to leave the corporate sector and really start looking for opportunities that existed outside of the sort of nine to five
If it was only nine to five, that was lovely
The seven till seven
And that's when I started to look for other opportunities that existed that gave me more flexibility and what I thought would you know be much more balanced than that
And what I thought would you know be much more balanced life
And so I you know started my first business when I had my first child, which is now almost 13 years ago
And that's evolved and continued to see me look for other opportunities and certainly when I moved to Singapore five years ago
That was when I started looking at you know, what else could I be doing? So I've moved to a new country
I'm looking for a new opportunity. I want to do something here in this space and it also coincided with me turning 40
Oh, yeah
And starting to you know, not feel as good as I had always felt
And not realizing what was going on initially and it was probably when I was about 42
That I really started to feel rubbish. I was like something is off. I am exhausted
I am you know not able to get through the day in the way that I used to be able to I felt like I needed to go for a little nana nap in the afternoon and
You know, I felt like I was forgetful. I didn't feel like myself and
Once I went through that whole journey, which I'm sure we'll get into
I realized that there was a real opportunity in that space to do more around, you know helping other women who were like me
In their 40s wanting to find you know a natural alternative to supporting their hormones and a way that they could
You know bridge that gap between you know, not taking anything and potentially going on to HRT
in between
And so that's where that all came about
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And that makes sense to me. I mean
Paraminopause is just now becoming a buzzword, right?
It's like we're just in the past. I'd say five to ten years saying the word and having it understood universally
Right with men and women alike, but I still think there's this huge problem of misinformation, right?
So now that the topic is out there now, it's like oh take this do this, you know
You know try changing this lifestyle element. How do you help women kind of navigate the murky waters of paraminopolis?
Yeah, I think it you're right. You're so right. It's so challenging because there is so many
People saying hrt is a thing you have to take as soon as you start feeling anything and other people saying hrt is terrible for you
and so what I discovered along my journey is that
My feeling is that both things are great
HRT can be fantastic and you know
You have to work with your doctor and find the right solution for you, but it is a very real and very well recognized
medication for women as their hormones are declining and
I think that the struggle that women have is that you know
There was obviously the the research that was done about 20 years ago and it was widely publicized that hrt was this
this
Terrible thing that was going to cause cancer and so all of a sudden it was wiped out as an option for women for an entire
Generation. Yeah, it's just fucked. Isn't it? Oh, it's so awful. You know, it's it's one of the
biggest dilemmas of of medical history really in terms of what that then did for women during that period and that was taken away
and so there is this fear around hrt, but
In reality, it's actually great for many many women and it is an option that we should always consider
If we are at that point where we need to you know, look at supporting our hormones in a way that you know natural things
and potentially not doing it for you
But what I was finding was that if you know people were talking about hrt
They were saying that natural options don't work and people who are talking about natural options were saying hrt doesn't work
and so there was this
this missing piece that's like the venn diagram was missing, you know the part where there's the middle ground
And both things are true both things work both things are great
We are all different the way we will experience perimenopause will generally be very different from
Any of our friends?
So yeah, it's I mean there's so many symptoms and it's only now as you say that we're talking about it
And it's so important that we're starting to understand what those symptoms actually are and what it looks like and how different it can be
And so I think one of the most important things for me is for women to be able to share their experiences
To be able to hear from other women that it's not just hot flushes
That it doesn't mean that you've you know put on 10 kilos over the last couple of months
These are really gradual things and it might just feel like oh i'm a bit more tired
Oh, i've got this new
Allergy that I haven't had before
Oh, i've got itchy ears random things that you think are so
Unrelated
And they don't feel like they're hormone related. You've suddenly got uti's or you know, you're more forgetful than usual. There's so many
vast
and weird
symptoms that we have
That it's really hard to realize and recognize particularly when the medical
you know you go to the doctor and they they don't tell you that those things are all connected because
They don't necessarily realize either and it's only now coming to light that all of these things are actually symptoms because our hormones are so
prolific within our bodies that affects so many different things and so
Sharing our own experiences and what it looks like for each individual woman I think is so helpful
It's really important to know that you know
What you'll go through could just be
You know some allergies or it might be an increase in anxiety or depression or a new anxiety and depression that you've never experienced before
And for me one of my biggest symptoms was actually heart palpitations
which
was really scary, but I it was a really unusual symptom for me because
I would be standing in the kitchen and my heart rate would spike
To like over 200 and the only reason I knew that is because I wear an apple watch and you get the alert right and I get
The alert and I'm like and all of a sudden I'm like whoa what's happening?
And I would have to lie down
Just to get my heart rate down. Wow
That's so scary like you could be like shit. Am I having a heart attack? Like what is going on? It was so scary and
you know
The worst episode for me and it was really the catalyst for me was when I was driving my kids to school one day
and I was on the freeway and
My heart I could feel it suddenly spiked and I was like I can't pull over
What am I gonna do and my kids looked at me and went mommy? Are you okay?
And I was like, yep
And I thought I don't know what I'm gonna do here because I feel like I'm gonna black out
And I just had to slow right down and cars were beeping at me
I was like I just need to slow down because if I do black out I can't be doing 80
On the freeway and thankfully it passed
But my kids were really worried and the look on their faces looking at me going mommy. Mommy. Are you okay?
Was terrifying
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You know that that in itself was enough for me to go i've got to figure out what's going on here
When got my heart checked went got all the tests went and had my bloods done did all the things
Only to figure out that it was actually perimenopause, but I had never heard of anybody talk about heart palpitations ever
Yeah, and I think that's the thing. I think everyone's like you said everyone's journey is very different for me
I don't know if it was lucky or not lucky, but it was the
It was the hot flushes which really prompted it. I was having sleepless nights, but I was had babies
So I thought maybe that's what that is. I'd get this weird sort of anxiety feeling and I'd be like, okay, you know
I've always been fat. So i'm like, okay
Well, maybe that's why i'm struggling to lose weight or you know, i've got thyroid issue
But it was the hot flushes where I joked to my husband. I think i'm going through menopause
This is at 36 and then it was like ding
shit
So I went to the doctors and they confirmed, you know that my hormones were off and it was that
But I think had I not had had the hot flushes, I just would have been like well
You know, i'm not sleeping because of the kids or my thyroid's off or whatever it was
You know, I just have to work harder than everybody else to to manage my weight. But yeah, it's it's crazy that you know
You hear people saying oh my cycles are getting shorter or my cycles are really heavy or i've missed a period
And it's like okay, you know, you're kind of in your 40s now. Have you had it checked out?
Oh, my doctor says i'm so far away from menopause
But are you?
Yeah, and that's the thing. I think
Because the universal sign for menopause is hot flushes. Yeah, and if your cycles are regular and you haven't had a hot flush
They'll say no, it's fine. And and you think you're you're fine. You don't relate necessarily to menopause
And so I think that's why it's really
So important that we share these stories and our own experiences so that women can start to recognize it for themselves
Because tracking your own symptoms is really the best way to tell where you're at
And you know understanding what the signs might look like and what some of those symptoms are is so helpful
Yeah, we had dr. Tash morando from the osler health on here on here in our season one
And she dropped the bomb which I will never forget which is there are now 70
Documented symptoms of perimenopause. It's wild meaning clinical symptoms. So 70 70 listeners
So it's like, you know, yeah, it might be heart palpitations for you
It might be hot flashes for you when it's my time
It might be some other bizarre thing and the only thing I can always liken that back to is pregnancy, right with my three pregnancies
I've had every symptom you can you can name it things people haven't even heard
I had a pyrogenic granuloma for anyone listening
Like absolutely bizarre five percent of pregnant women get it guess who did me so point being each pregnancy was different
Each symptom ology was different, you know
And it's like that to me is very relatable because I went through it
But yet somehow when it comes to perimenopause, oh, that's not a symptom that does that doesn't sound right? Yeah, it does
There's 70 of them. You might have one you might have 69, right?
But it's like lucky and have none and maybe you have me. Hey bless you again people have those pregnancies without any either
So, you know good good for you
But it's like it doesn't seem strange in the context of pregnancy to say this is different
And this is like that but somehow in perimenopause we still get confused
So I think it's so important like you said that a diversity of women share their experiences in this area so that we can all kind
Of normalize what's going on? Absolutely, but i'm interested in something you mentioned about being in the car with your girls, right and having that symptom
How do you balance being an entrepreneur and having your girls generally?
I mean, it sounds like you are so busy. You're between countries, you know, because you're obviously, you know manufacturing doing the manufacturing work for your business in australia
You're based here in singapore. How do you balance it all?
You don't no one does
I mean, it's the juggle right and I think we all just
Balance it however, we best can at any given time, you know, I'm very lucky that I have a very supportive husband
And you know, we live in a wonderful environment where we also have some help which is fantastic
And I think you do what you can
The reality of having your own business versus working for a corporate is that?
Yes, I can choose when I work
But I do all the work
And so there are some absolute benefits to being an entrepreneur
Entrepreneur for sure and I love it
But it is harder than working for anybody else because you are so much more passionate and you so want everything to to do well and you want
To speak to all of the customers because you want to get feedback and you want to also upgrade the tech
So you're up late at night doing the tech side of things and you know
There's a whole range of things that need to be done and it's just prioritizing so there's a never-ending list
And it's just what gets bumped down, you know, and how you manage that but
Yeah, I I don't know the secret to that
I know who does and if you do let me know
Yeah, how do you talk to your girls about entrepreneurship?
Like how do you you know explain to them that the work you do is different from let's say the work your husband does
We really encourage
Entrepreneurship at home and it's funny. My eldest daughter has had a couple of businesses little businesses
Tell us about them. What are they? Well, let's let's promote her here on the fours formula
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We know where we're headed after the podcast now back to the chat. She's
Off and on she's a bit sporadic at the moment, but that's okay. She's 12
She's allowed to reinvent and she is but she um has had her own little dog treats business
And the two of them do it together actually
Um, but she desperately wanted an apple watch and I was like I am not buying you an apple watch at 10 years old
Yeah, mom
So if you want that you were you're gonna have to work out how you're gonna do that. So she started a dog treats business
Was making them at home baking them
Selling them on a saturday and sunday morning and saved up all their money took all of her
Notes and coins and everything into the apple store and they all came around
They were so lovely and congratulated her for saving up and buying it herself
Wow, and so, you know, it's something we do talk about and and how
She can control what she has in terms of getting money in
And then can use that money to buy things that she wants which is now going to sephora
Hey fair enough. That is also where my entrepreneurship dollar goes
So, you know, it is something that we talk about and how you know
How great it is in terms of giving you flexibility and opportunity?
And I think that's something that they have taken on board because they both do talk about having their own businesses
So i'm i'm hoping that it is something that continues and you know, the dog treat business is the beginning
Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, let us know which corner she's on with the dog treats
Make sure to walk by
I've got a little dog at home so
Absolutely
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But I will say, okay, so entrepreneurship, family value, I love it, right?
Dog treats, rockin' and rollin'
Not too dissimilar from developing a product of your own, which is what you've done, right?
What are some of the things that you've done that you've learned?
What are some of the kind of stumbling blocks that you've faced in developing a product-based business?
Because I do think that's in a way a bigger challenge than a, especially when talking about a pharmaceutical-grade product, right?
Different from a service-based business
And are there any cautionary tales you can offer women that are going into this industry?
Yes, so many
Let me pull the list
I mean, the biggest challenge, and you touched on it, is developing a pharmaceutical-grade product is incredibly challenging
And it's about finding the right partner
And I'm a very independent person, and so initially I was like, I will just find my own manufacturer, it's fine
So I was doing all the research and reaching out to all of these huge manufacturers who just didn't reply
And I spent far too long doing that because I'm very determined, stubborn, some would say
And decided that I would just keep going down this path until I got to the point where I was like, this is not working
Like I am not hearing back
I'm clearly, they know that I'm a small business that's coming to them that's going to have a very, wanting a small MOQ
So what else can I do?
And I think the lesson that I really learned there is lean on your network
And that is huge for entrepreneurs regardless of what industry you're in and what space
Because there are people around you who know, who have done it before, who have the contacts, who have manufactured before
Or who have worked in that country, or you know, there are people around you who have the information
And as soon as I sat down and thought about, who do I know?
Of course there was someone who was a CEO of a vitamins company in Australia who I knew
And reached out to him and said, hey, could you help put me in touch with a manufacturer?
Immediately put me in touch, did an email introduction and said, you know, you're going to love working with Sarah
And they went, we'll do absolutely whatever you'd like to do
Amazing
And so that introduction was, you know, complete game changer for me in terms of having a relationship immediately introduced by someone they knew and trusted
And gave me sort of credibility with them immediately that they said, we'll absolutely work with you
We know that you only want to start small and, you know, we'll work on developing your formulation with you
And it was amazing because it also meant that they had the formulation expertise, they had the manufacturing expertise
They were registered in Australia with the Therapeutic Goods of Australia, which is the governing body
It just completely cut out all of the probably the four or five months that I'd been spending trying to get in touch with all these different manufacturers
But it really was the point of your network, you know, think about who you know
Think about who they know and what their background is, what their experience is
And utilize that because entrepreneurship is such an isolating journey in many ways
And so you really have to open up and talk to people and even as someone who's very independent
I realize that I have to do that, you know, I have to go out and talk to other people who've done it before and who have the experience
And it's great, you know, they're very willing to help in 99% of cases
If you ask someone, hey, could I, you know, buy you a coffee? Would you mind, you know, explaining how this works to me?
Or do you know someone? Most people are going to say, yeah, sure
Yeah, and with entrepreneurship, there are two finite resources, time and money, and they're really one and the same, right? Time is money
So if you think about all the hours you spent, like you said, reaching out to these random drug manufacturers that, you know, were big in the industry
Versus just going straight to your network, right? If only you could have that resource back and I hear you
Talking about the formulation now, I'm intrigued to find out how did you decide upon what goes into the supplement?
So that was a process, I kind of did it reverse engineered
So rather than looking at what we wanted in it, it was what did we want it to do?
So ultimately for perimenopause, balancing hormones, sleep, mood, those were the key elements
And obviously helping the balancing hormones helps with your symptoms
So it was looking at, okay, what is going to be the most effective formula based on these things?
Because if we get our hormones balanced and we get our sleep right, that's a huge start
That's an amazing baseline for women who are going through perimenopause
We know that sleep is the pillar of all mental and physical health
Holy apricot
And so, you know, I at the time didn't even realize that I was not sleeping well
I was just exhausted and I was like, but I am going to bed and I was like, oh, I am tossing and turning a bit
Probably, you know, probably wasn't getting a great sleep
Maybe I'm just overthinking, I'm busy
Flopped on my mind and so once you balance out hormones and get your sleep right, oh my gosh
It is like the curtain is lifted and so then putting in things that are calming and help with mood regulation
And one of the other big things that is, or two big things that are key at this time of life as well is magnesium
And making sure it's the right one because that's a real challenge in itself for women
We're told to take magnesium and there's so many different types
And so women are going into their chemist buying a magnesium and then having the shits afterwards
Yes
I'm glad you said it
Exactly and they think, well, but that's what I've been told to take and I'm doing it
And so not realizing that they're not taking the right one, that's a challenge in itself
So we incorporated magnesium glycinate, which is fantastic also for helping with sleep and muscle relaxation and joints and bone density
So that's included as one of the key nutrients
Also many women are vitamin deficient even here in Singapore, which seems crazy
But so many women are vitamin deficient as we get older and that is a huge, has a huge impact on mood regulation
But also vitamin D is now considered to be a hormone and it's so prolific throughout our bodies
That it makes such a huge difference to all aspects of our well-being
So we also incorporated vitamin D with K to help with absorption
So it's got key nutrients in there that help with our overall health
But also help with really key symptoms, hormones, sleep, mood
Do we want to get into how moody we can get?
Well, and I think, you know, both Jasmine and I, right, coming from nutrition backgrounds
We take this food first approach, right?
So it's like, you know, do I get protein from a powder or from a chicken breast?
I always will say chicken breast first and then supplement up with powder, right? For example
So what's unique about peri health that makes it more than what you can just get from foods?
Like, why am I taking it? Is there something I could eat instead?
You know, what's the added boost?
Absolutely. So I also agree with food first and will always, I am also a protein preacher
So I'm with you on that
Health and well-being really should always be with a baseline of eating well
And nutritionally supporting yourself, exercising
I know we've been told all our lives we need to eat well and exercise
But it's so much more important now than ever
Yeah, hear it now if you haven't heard it before
Now is the time, like if you haven't been, if you've been lucky enough to get away with, you know
Not eating well and not necessarily exercising, now's the time you need to start
And so that is, that's the base. On top of that, this supplementation will help you with your hormones
So your hormones, at this time we start to decline and you know, we have key nutrients
Vitex Angus is the main ingredient for your hormones
Obviously vitamin D also helps
But we aren't getting all of those nutrients within our food
And so there is also Ashwagandha KSM 66 which is included which is fantastic for, it's really calming
Again, it helps with sleep but also calming and you know, those are things that you can get within your nutritional diet
So there is a range of things, I can go through the whole list
There's also sage which helps with hot flushes and regulation of your vasomotor symptoms
There's a whole range of things that you won't be able to get in your daily diet
So absolutely you have to eat well, you have to look after yourself, you have to increase your protein
You need to lift weights
Yeah, hear that
So there's a lot of things that we need to do but this is, you know, this is going to help you feel a lot better than you know, you would otherwise
And one of the things that I love because I've been taking my peri health is the smell, it's amazing
It smells like lavender so you know when you normally pop a pill or a supplement, it's got that really sort of earthy, you know, like makes you gag
Yeah, you're talking to someone who's on prenatal for like the better half of five years
And you know, the fact that it just has this lovely aroma just makes it so much easier to take down
And then also you're not having to pop like 10 different pills, you just need to take two as the, what is it, the seven, it is two to pills, right?
Two pills, yeah
And it's just so much nicer than having to pop 10 where you're just like, ugh, each time
Yes, absolutely
So the lavender, I love it as well, it's from the lavender oil
Someone asked me recently if it was actually a fragrance and I was like no
I don't know
I don't know, we don't put fragrance in there
I want too hard to put a fragrance in there
Definitely not, it's from the lavender oil which helps with sleep
And it is really lovely and it's very calming
And you know, one of the reasons why I wanted to develop this formulation was because as I entered this phase
I started supplementing with a whole range of different vitamins and herbs and was feeling fantastic
But was also feeling like I was rattling
Gosh, yeah
Because I was taking so many different pills as you were saying
And so when I started looking for a supplement that incorporated all of these things
I wasn't able to find one
And so the key for me in developing this supplementation was that it was able to balance our hormones,
include key nutrients like vitamin D and magnesium glycinate and really regulate how I was feeling in one formulation
And that's what I wasn't able to find and that's why I went on this journey to develop this
I'm so glad you did
When I was a young and fresh trainer, I was probably 31 let's say
And I had a client who was going through menopause, she was like 48, so 17 years older than me
So it was one of my first hands-on experiences with a perimenopausal client
And I remember one day she brought her supplement box to the training session
And it was a sewing kit with all the individual thread holders
Okay, for those under 40 by the way, a sewing kit is a no-go
But so she had with all the individual thread holders and it was a 72, a box of 72, I'll never forget it
And almost all the squares were full
And we didn't talk about it, I just saw her take it because it was a morning session
And I was like, oh my, is this what perimenopause is? Because this is terrifying, right?
And so now it's like, you relate to that, this is what women were doing before this
Taking a little bit of this, a little bit of that, putting together their own witchery concoctions in the cauldron of the sewing kit
It's like a little spell you're trying to cast, you know
And it's like, holy cow, is that what we're living like? No, it does not need to be like that anymore
So I definitely relate to what you're saying
Well, you've given us a ton to think about today and a lot of learning to do about perimenopause and I appreciate that
But the last question that we ask for all of our guests here on the 40s Formula is
If you could summarize what it takes for women to thrive in this decade, what is your 40s Formula?
I think the 40s Formula for me is about really enjoying your life
And I think we forget sometimes that it's meant to be enjoyed, it's meant to be a time that we're thriving
And so in our 40s, you know, things change and that's okay, we've just got to adapt
And so you've got to find the thing that works for you, whether or not that's my supplement, another supplement, HRT, whatever it is
Weightlifting
Weightlifting, you know, you've got to find something that gets you back to feeling like you again
And I think women really often put themselves last
We have family, we have jobs, we have all these other things that come up the top of the list
And I think my advice for women in their 40s is just remember that it's meant to be enjoyed
So find the thing that you thrive with, find the thing that fills your cup because it is still meant to be enjoyable
You got it, girl, we are not out to pasture yet, I appreciate that
Well, thank you so much for coming on, Sarah, it's been a pleasure
Pleasure, thank you so much for having me
Thank you
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This is Paul, our editor
He's a 25-year-old unmarried Singaporean guy listening to the ramblings of 12 older women on everything from menopause to weightlifting to sex
So Paul, what's your thoughts on today's conversation?
Hey guys, what's up? Paul here
I think it's a pretty interesting episode that was filmed together with the previous season
That kind of talks about perimenopause
And one thing I guess I do enjoy hearing is people's perspectives and the stories and always learning new things from it
I think it's cool to be able to start your own pharmaceutical supplement product in your 40s
And it's definitely not a product that I would take, of course as a guy
But yeah, thanks for making a difference in this world
One small supplement at a time
See ya
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And my husband's one of these guys is very logical
Like everything has to be based on a logical situation
And I remember once when I was pregnant
I started crying because I had some eggs and I think it wasn't cooked properly or something
And he turned around and he said to me, oh, you're eating amniotic fluid
And I just cried and cried and cried
And he was like, can you just man up?
I'm like, yes, that's a term
But at the time my hormones were everywhere
And you know, I was very upset by the fact that you said I was eating amniotic fluid
Understandably
Plus all the hormones
Exactly
Yeah, there's a lot that we need to work with them on
Gosh, if you can drop that in anywhere, please do