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Hey, hey and welcome to the 40s formula

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You're going to place for insightful discussions on navigating the 40s and thriving in this transformative decade. We're your hosts Jasmine and Amanda

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Two women that are passionate about exploring the challenges and adventures that come with turning 40 and what lies ahead

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With over two decades of experience in media and advertising

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Sarah Eastwood is a seasoned expert in her field and also a passionate advocate of midlife health and wellness for women

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She founded Perry Health after recognizing a significant gap in holistic care and natural treatments for menopause as a mother to two beautiful daughters

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Sarah understands the intricate balance required to manage personal health and family life

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She founded Perry Health to provide women like her expert formulated supplements

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Accessible information and a supportive community to navigate the complexities of menopause

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Between covid and the political and social situation in the world right now and just the usual professional transitions of women in their 40s

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This decade tends to be when so many women find themselves kind of pivoting in their careers

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And our guest today, Sarah Eastwood is no stranger to that level of epic change

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Sarah, can you tell us a little bit about how you went from your previous corporate life

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And that's when I started to look for other opportunities that existed that gave me more flexibility and what I thought would you know be much more balanced than that

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In their 40s wanting to find you know a natural alternative to supporting their hormones and a way that they could

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Paraminopause is just now becoming a buzzword, right?

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It's like we're just in the past. I'd say five to ten years saying the word and having it understood universally

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Right with men and women alike, but I still think there's this huge problem of misinformation, right?

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To be able to hear from other women that it's not just hot flushes

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That's so scary like you could be like shit. Am I having a heart attack? Like what is going on? It was so scary and

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And I thought I don't know what I'm gonna do here because I feel like I'm gonna black out

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You know that that in itself was enough for me to go i've got to figure out what's going on here

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When got my heart checked went got all the tests went and had my bloods done did all the things

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Only to figure out that it was actually perimenopause, but I had never heard of anybody talk about heart palpitations ever

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It was the hot flushes which really prompted it. I was having sleepless nights, but I was had babies

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I've always been fat. So i'm like, okay

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But it was the hot flushes where I joked to my husband. I think i'm going through menopause

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This is at 36 and then it was like ding

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You know, I just have to work harder than everybody else to to manage my weight. But yeah, it's it's crazy that you know

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You hear people saying oh my cycles are getting shorter or my cycles are really heavy or i've missed a period

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Oh, my doctor says i'm so far away from menopause

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Because the universal sign for menopause is hot flushes. Yeah, and if your cycles are regular and you haven't had a hot flush

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They'll say no, it's fine. And and you think you're you're fine. You don't relate necessarily to menopause

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And so I think that's why it's really

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So important that we share these stories and our own experiences so that women can start to recognize it for themselves

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Because tracking your own symptoms is really the best way to tell where you're at

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And you know understanding what the signs might look like and what some of those symptoms are is so helpful

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Yeah, we had dr. Tash morando from the osler health on here on here in our season one

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Documented symptoms of perimenopause. It's wild meaning clinical symptoms. So 70 70 listeners

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So it's like, you know, yeah, it might be heart palpitations for you

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It might be hot flashes for you when it's my time

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It might be some other bizarre thing and the only thing I can always liken that back to is pregnancy, right with my three pregnancies

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I've had every symptom you can you can name it things people haven't even heard

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I had a pyrogenic granuloma for anyone listening

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Like absolutely bizarre five percent of pregnant women get it guess who did me so point being each pregnancy was different

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Each symptom ology was different, you know

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And it's like that to me is very relatable because I went through it

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But yet somehow when it comes to perimenopause, oh, that's not a symptom that does that doesn't sound right? Yeah, it does

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There's 70 of them. You might have one you might have 69, right?

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But it's like lucky and have none and maybe you have me. Hey bless you again people have those pregnancies without any either

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So, you know good good for you

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But it's like it doesn't seem strange in the context of pregnancy to say this is different

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And this is like that but somehow in perimenopause we still get confused

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So I think it's so important like you said that a diversity of women share their experiences in this area so that we can all kind

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Of normalize what's going on? Absolutely, but i'm interested in something you mentioned about being in the car with your girls, right and having that symptom

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How do you balance being an entrepreneur and having your girls generally?

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I mean, it sounds like you are so busy. You're between countries, you know, because you're obviously, you know manufacturing doing the manufacturing work for your business in australia

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You're based here in singapore. How do you balance it all?

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You don't no one does

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I mean, it's the juggle right and I think we all just

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Balance it however, we best can at any given time, you know, I'm very lucky that I have a very supportive husband

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And you know, we live in a wonderful environment where we also have some help which is fantastic

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And I think you do what you can

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The reality of having your own business versus working for a corporate is that?

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Yes, I can choose when I work

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But I do all the work

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And so there are some absolute benefits to being an entrepreneur

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Entrepreneur for sure and I love it

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But it is harder than working for anybody else because you are so much more passionate and you so want everything to to do well and you want

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To speak to all of the customers because you want to get feedback and you want to also upgrade the tech

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So you're up late at night doing the tech side of things and you know

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There's a whole range of things that need to be done and it's just prioritizing so there's a never-ending list

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And it's just what gets bumped down, you know, and how you manage that but

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Yeah, I I don't know the secret to that

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I know who does and if you do let me know

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Yeah, how do you talk to your girls about entrepreneurship?

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Like how do you you know explain to them that the work you do is different from let's say the work your husband does

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We really encourage

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Entrepreneurship at home and it's funny. My eldest daughter has had a couple of businesses little businesses

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Tell us about them. What are they? Well, let's let's promote her here on the fours formula

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I don't know about you jasmine

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But one of the main questions I get from nutrition clients is where to grab a healthy meal when they're out and about

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Oh all the time and they're often happy to hear me recommend guzmine gomez where clean is the new healthy

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Gyg serves up honest clean eats no preservatives. No artificial flavors. No added colors and no unacceptable additives

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Basically no nasties and that's part of the reason why I feel good bringing my family to gyg for a quick meal, too

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My boys love it. Plus I know they're getting fresh 100 clean food and it's seriously good stuff

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The salsas and marinades are actually sourced from mexico. So every bite has authentic mexican flavors and as a native californian

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I can verify that is legit. Oh, you've got me hungry for my fave protein packed burrito bowl

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I love that I can double up on the protein to make it even more nutritious

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I'm a burrito bowl gal too extra spicy with double maramundi for me

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And super easy to get since there are 18 locations all over the island with online and social media delivery options, too

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We know where we're headed after the podcast now back to the chat. She's

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Off and on she's a bit sporadic at the moment, but that's okay. She's 12

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She's allowed to reinvent and she is but she um has had her own little dog treats business

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And the two of them do it together actually

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Um, but she desperately wanted an apple watch and I was like I am not buying you an apple watch at 10 years old

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Yeah, mom

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So if you want that you were you're gonna have to work out how you're gonna do that. So she started a dog treats business

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Was making them at home baking them

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Selling them on a saturday and sunday morning and saved up all their money took all of her

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Notes and coins and everything into the apple store and they all came around

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They were so lovely and congratulated her for saving up and buying it herself

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Wow, and so, you know, it's something we do talk about and and how

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She can control what she has in terms of getting money in

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And then can use that money to buy things that she wants which is now going to sephora

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Hey fair enough. That is also where my entrepreneurship dollar goes

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So, you know, it is something that we talk about and how you know

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How great it is in terms of giving you flexibility and opportunity?

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And I think that's something that they have taken on board because they both do talk about having their own businesses

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So i'm i'm hoping that it is something that continues and you know, the dog treat business is the beginning

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Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, let us know which corner she's on with the dog treats

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Make sure to walk by

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I've got a little dog at home so

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Absolutely

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When I ended perimenopause, I almost didn't believe it

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The symptoms snuck up on me and hit me hard

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That's what I hear from so many women that it's kind of subtle at first

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But then you begin to realize something is off something is truly changing

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The things like stress, sleeplessness, night sweats, mood swings

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There are almost 70 documented symptoms of perimenopause

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But now I know there are also answers to

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Supplements like Ozzy made peri health support women in perimenopause

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While combating some of the common outcomes of this time like bone density and muscle loss

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And you know, we don't want to lose that muscle

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And you know what? I love that it smells like lavender too

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I know when it's my time, I will not choose to suffer

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And now back to our conversation

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But I will say, okay, so entrepreneurship, family value, I love it, right?

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Dog treats, rockin' and rollin'

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Not too dissimilar from developing a product of your own, which is what you've done, right?

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What are some of the things that you've done that you've learned?

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What are some of the kind of stumbling blocks that you've faced in developing a product-based business?

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Because I do think that's in a way a bigger challenge than a, especially when talking about a pharmaceutical-grade product, right?

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Different from a service-based business

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And are there any cautionary tales you can offer women that are going into this industry?

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Yes, so many

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Let me pull the list

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I mean, the biggest challenge, and you touched on it, is developing a pharmaceutical-grade product is incredibly challenging

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And it's about finding the right partner

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And I'm a very independent person, and so initially I was like, I will just find my own manufacturer, it's fine

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So I was doing all the research and reaching out to all of these huge manufacturers who just didn't reply

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And I spent far too long doing that because I'm very determined, stubborn, some would say

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And decided that I would just keep going down this path until I got to the point where I was like, this is not working

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Like I am not hearing back

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I'm clearly, they know that I'm a small business that's coming to them that's going to have a very, wanting a small MOQ

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So what else can I do?

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And I think the lesson that I really learned there is lean on your network

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And that is huge for entrepreneurs regardless of what industry you're in and what space

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Because there are people around you who know, who have done it before, who have the contacts, who have manufactured before

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Or who have worked in that country, or you know, there are people around you who have the information

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And as soon as I sat down and thought about, who do I know?

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Of course there was someone who was a CEO of a vitamins company in Australia who I knew

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And reached out to him and said, hey, could you help put me in touch with a manufacturer?

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Immediately put me in touch, did an email introduction and said, you know, you're going to love working with Sarah

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And they went, we'll do absolutely whatever you'd like to do

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Amazing

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And so that introduction was, you know, complete game changer for me in terms of having a relationship immediately introduced by someone they knew and trusted

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And gave me sort of credibility with them immediately that they said, we'll absolutely work with you

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We know that you only want to start small and, you know, we'll work on developing your formulation with you

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And it was amazing because it also meant that they had the formulation expertise, they had the manufacturing expertise

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They were registered in Australia with the Therapeutic Goods of Australia, which is the governing body

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It just completely cut out all of the probably the four or five months that I'd been spending trying to get in touch with all these different manufacturers

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But it really was the point of your network, you know, think about who you know

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Think about who they know and what their background is, what their experience is

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And utilize that because entrepreneurship is such an isolating journey in many ways

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And so you really have to open up and talk to people and even as someone who's very independent

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I realize that I have to do that, you know, I have to go out and talk to other people who've done it before and who have the experience

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And it's great, you know, they're very willing to help in 99% of cases

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If you ask someone, hey, could I, you know, buy you a coffee? Would you mind, you know, explaining how this works to me?

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Or do you know someone? Most people are going to say, yeah, sure

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Yeah, and with entrepreneurship, there are two finite resources, time and money, and they're really one and the same, right? Time is money

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So if you think about all the hours you spent, like you said, reaching out to these random drug manufacturers that, you know, were big in the industry

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Versus just going straight to your network, right? If only you could have that resource back and I hear you

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Talking about the formulation now, I'm intrigued to find out how did you decide upon what goes into the supplement?

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So that was a process, I kind of did it reverse engineered

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So rather than looking at what we wanted in it, it was what did we want it to do?

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So ultimately for perimenopause, balancing hormones, sleep, mood, those were the key elements

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And obviously helping the balancing hormones helps with your symptoms

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So it was looking at, okay, what is going to be the most effective formula based on these things?

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Because if we get our hormones balanced and we get our sleep right, that's a huge start

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That's an amazing baseline for women who are going through perimenopause

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We know that sleep is the pillar of all mental and physical health

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Holy apricot

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And so, you know, I at the time didn't even realize that I was not sleeping well

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I was just exhausted and I was like, but I am going to bed and I was like, oh, I am tossing and turning a bit

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Probably, you know, probably wasn't getting a great sleep

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Maybe I'm just overthinking, I'm busy

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Flopped on my mind and so once you balance out hormones and get your sleep right, oh my gosh

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It is like the curtain is lifted and so then putting in things that are calming and help with mood regulation

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And one of the other big things that is, or two big things that are key at this time of life as well is magnesium

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And making sure it's the right one because that's a real challenge in itself for women

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We're told to take magnesium and there's so many different types

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And so women are going into their chemist buying a magnesium and then having the shits afterwards

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Yes

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I'm glad you said it

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Exactly and they think, well, but that's what I've been told to take and I'm doing it

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And so not realizing that they're not taking the right one, that's a challenge in itself

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So we incorporated magnesium glycinate, which is fantastic also for helping with sleep and muscle relaxation and joints and bone density

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So that's included as one of the key nutrients

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Also many women are vitamin deficient even here in Singapore, which seems crazy

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But so many women are vitamin deficient as we get older and that is a huge, has a huge impact on mood regulation

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But also vitamin D is now considered to be a hormone and it's so prolific throughout our bodies

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That it makes such a huge difference to all aspects of our well-being

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So we also incorporated vitamin D with K to help with absorption

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So it's got key nutrients in there that help with our overall health

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But also help with really key symptoms, hormones, sleep, mood

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Do we want to get into how moody we can get?

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Well, and I think, you know, both Jasmine and I, right, coming from nutrition backgrounds

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We take this food first approach, right?

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So it's like, you know, do I get protein from a powder or from a chicken breast?

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I always will say chicken breast first and then supplement up with powder, right? For example

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So what's unique about peri health that makes it more than what you can just get from foods?

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Like, why am I taking it? Is there something I could eat instead?

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You know, what's the added boost?

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Absolutely. So I also agree with food first and will always, I am also a protein preacher

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So I'm with you on that

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Health and well-being really should always be with a baseline of eating well

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And nutritionally supporting yourself, exercising

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I know we've been told all our lives we need to eat well and exercise

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But it's so much more important now than ever

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Yeah, hear it now if you haven't heard it before

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Now is the time, like if you haven't been, if you've been lucky enough to get away with, you know

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Not eating well and not necessarily exercising, now's the time you need to start

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And so that is, that's the base. On top of that, this supplementation will help you with your hormones

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So your hormones, at this time we start to decline and you know, we have key nutrients

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Vitex Angus is the main ingredient for your hormones

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Obviously vitamin D also helps

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But we aren't getting all of those nutrients within our food

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And so there is also Ashwagandha KSM 66 which is included which is fantastic for, it's really calming

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Again, it helps with sleep but also calming and you know, those are things that you can get within your nutritional diet

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So there is a range of things, I can go through the whole list

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There's also sage which helps with hot flushes and regulation of your vasomotor symptoms

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There's a whole range of things that you won't be able to get in your daily diet

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So absolutely you have to eat well, you have to look after yourself, you have to increase your protein

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You need to lift weights

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Yeah, hear that

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So there's a lot of things that we need to do but this is, you know, this is going to help you feel a lot better than you know, you would otherwise

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And one of the things that I love because I've been taking my peri health is the smell, it's amazing

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It smells like lavender so you know when you normally pop a pill or a supplement, it's got that really sort of earthy, you know, like makes you gag

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Yeah, you're talking to someone who's on prenatal for like the better half of five years

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And you know, the fact that it just has this lovely aroma just makes it so much easier to take down

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And then also you're not having to pop like 10 different pills, you just need to take two as the, what is it, the seven, it is two to pills, right?

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Two pills, yeah

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And it's just so much nicer than having to pop 10 where you're just like, ugh, each time

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Yes, absolutely

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So the lavender, I love it as well, it's from the lavender oil

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Someone asked me recently if it was actually a fragrance and I was like no

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I don't know

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I don't know, we don't put fragrance in there

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I want too hard to put a fragrance in there

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Definitely not, it's from the lavender oil which helps with sleep

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And it is really lovely and it's very calming

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And you know, one of the reasons why I wanted to develop this formulation was because as I entered this phase

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I started supplementing with a whole range of different vitamins and herbs and was feeling fantastic

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But was also feeling like I was rattling

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Gosh, yeah

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Because I was taking so many different pills as you were saying

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And so when I started looking for a supplement that incorporated all of these things

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I wasn't able to find one

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And so the key for me in developing this supplementation was that it was able to balance our hormones,

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include key nutrients like vitamin D and magnesium glycinate and really regulate how I was feeling in one formulation

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And that's what I wasn't able to find and that's why I went on this journey to develop this

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I'm so glad you did

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When I was a young and fresh trainer, I was probably 31 let's say

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And I had a client who was going through menopause, she was like 48, so 17 years older than me

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So it was one of my first hands-on experiences with a perimenopausal client

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And I remember one day she brought her supplement box to the training session

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And it was a sewing kit with all the individual thread holders

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Okay, for those under 40 by the way, a sewing kit is a no-go

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But so she had with all the individual thread holders and it was a 72, a box of 72, I'll never forget it

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And almost all the squares were full

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And we didn't talk about it, I just saw her take it because it was a morning session

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And I was like, oh my, is this what perimenopause is? Because this is terrifying, right?

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And so now it's like, you relate to that, this is what women were doing before this

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Taking a little bit of this, a little bit of that, putting together their own witchery concoctions in the cauldron of the sewing kit

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It's like a little spell you're trying to cast, you know

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And it's like, holy cow, is that what we're living like? No, it does not need to be like that anymore

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So I definitely relate to what you're saying

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Well, you've given us a ton to think about today and a lot of learning to do about perimenopause and I appreciate that

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But the last question that we ask for all of our guests here on the 40s Formula is

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If you could summarize what it takes for women to thrive in this decade, what is your 40s Formula?

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I think the 40s Formula for me is about really enjoying your life

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And I think we forget sometimes that it's meant to be enjoyed, it's meant to be a time that we're thriving

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And so in our 40s, you know, things change and that's okay, we've just got to adapt

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And so you've got to find the thing that works for you, whether or not that's my supplement, another supplement, HRT, whatever it is

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Weightlifting

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Weightlifting, you know, you've got to find something that gets you back to feeling like you again

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And I think women really often put themselves last

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We have family, we have jobs, we have all these other things that come up the top of the list

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And I think my advice for women in their 40s is just remember that it's meant to be enjoyed

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So find the thing that you thrive with, find the thing that fills your cup because it is still meant to be enjoyable

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You got it, girl, we are not out to pasture yet, I appreciate that

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Well, thank you so much for coming on, Sarah, it's been a pleasure

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Pleasure, thank you so much for having me

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Thank you

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After talking to our amazing guests all day in studio, we need a good drink to refocus

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And let's be honest, we could use a dash more energy too

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Oh, I totally feel that, there's so many energy drinks out there packed with sugar and so much caffeine that you end up crashing hard

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That's actually why I switched over to Flojo, Asia's first productivity drink

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It hits the sweet spot for me between eating a little bit of a boost but not wanting to chug a bunch of caffeine

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But the fruit and tea flavors are still light and fresh, not weird

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Flojo actually helps me stay calm and in control so when I get home after work I can just be immediately present with my family

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This is Paul, our editor

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He's a 25-year-old unmarried Singaporean guy listening to the ramblings of 12 older women on everything from menopause to weightlifting to sex

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So Paul, what's your thoughts on today's conversation?

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Hey guys, what's up? Paul here

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I think it's a pretty interesting episode that was filmed together with the previous season

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That kind of talks about perimenopause

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And one thing I guess I do enjoy hearing is people's perspectives and the stories and always learning new things from it

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I think it's cool to be able to start your own pharmaceutical supplement product in your 40s

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And it's definitely not a product that I would take, of course as a guy

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But yeah, thanks for making a difference in this world

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One small supplement at a time

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Bye

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And my husband's one of these guys is very logical

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Like everything has to be based on a logical situation

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And I remember once when I was pregnant

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I started crying because I had some eggs and I think it wasn't cooked properly or something

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And he turned around and he said to me, oh, you're eating amniotic fluid

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And I just cried and cried and cried

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And he was like, can you just man up?

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I'm like, yes, that's a term

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But at the time my hormones were everywhere

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And you know, I was very upset by the fact that you said I was eating amniotic fluid

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Understandably

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Plus all the hormones

487
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Exactly

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Yeah, there's a lot that we need to work with them on

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Gosh, if you can drop that in anywhere, please do