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So I'm grateful for my religious upbringing because it opened me to these ideas where I could easily experiment with them without having to step through the skeptical doorway.

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But I prefer to mainline.

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Mainline but divine.

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Exactly, yeah, hook me up.

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Hello and welcome to the 40s Formula, your go-to place for insightful discussions on navigating your 40s and thriving in this transformative decade.

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We're your hosts, Amanda and Jasmine, two women that are passionate about exploring the challenges and adventures that come with turning 40 and what lies ahead.

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Dani van de Velde is a meditation leader, healer, transformative leader and coach who helps others understand and master the art of meditation, transformative inner practice and healing.

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Alongside her private coaching, energy sessions, courses and tailored programs, she's become a popular speaker at networking forums and workshops, a published author, a prolific fellow podcaster and a music producer and holds regular retreats in Asia and Australia.

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Dani is also a Reiki master and a qualified meditation teacher, as well as a member of the Meditation Association of Australia and the International Meditation Teachers Association.

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Dani's teaching is experiential.

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She draws from the techniques and wisdoms of numerous world traditions, current research, as well as the depth of her own experience.

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Her focus is on enabling others to understand and work with the design and function of their mind and energy systems to engage in transformative inner practice to maximize performance, self-heal and live intuitively.

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So I have been waiting before we launch season one to have Dani here on the podcast.

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So I am infinitely happy to have you here.

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And more so because we have not touched on this topic at all, the topic of spirituality and intuition and kind of changing your approach in your 40s.

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So thank you so much for being here, making the time.

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Thank you so much, ladies.

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I do remember when you messaged me first.

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It was a little while ago and I thought 40s formula.

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I'm well into my 50s.

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Do I qualify for this?

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I'm thrilled to be here.

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You're overqualified.

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You got a PhD in the 40s.

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We'll see about that.

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We'll unpack it.

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But can you tell us a little bit about how you came into your line of work?

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I mean, doing what you do, there's not a very straightforward blueprint, right?

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No, there isn't.

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And I have to say, for me, it was a search for meaning.

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So that's been something that's always marked the way that I think.

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Like, why?

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I was one of those girls.

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But why?

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And I still am one of those girls.

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But I was also raised in a family that geared its right up for careers.

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So I had a fantastic education.

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My father was a very successful businessman.

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All of my siblings are very successful in their endeavours.

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And we were raised that way as well.

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So I studied business.

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I studied law and finance.

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I went on to postgraduate studies as well in property and finance and so on.

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So I got to the point where my dad said, I think you should stop collecting degrees

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now.

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Absolutely, you should stop.

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And I love business.

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You know, I worked particularly in capital raising.

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I love the dynamic of that.

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I love the psychology of business as well.

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and behavioural change within organisations.

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Found it fascinating.

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Yet all along, there was this quest for meaning and this, I guess, dabbling.

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You know, I read a lot of books.

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I searched a lot of different modalities and frameworks.

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I still had a lot of unanswered questions from the faith of my origin.

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I grew up a Catholic.

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if that's the word, answered.

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At the same time, I had a brilliant sort of pretty good trajectory of career

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and what you could mark as success.

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But the more successful I was in my career, the bigger the question

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about why am I here?

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What am I doing?

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What's purpose?

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What's the meaning of life?

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And so I did a bungee jump.

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So right at the peak of my career.

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He said, you know, what are you doing?

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in my career.

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I do know that I'm here for a different reason.

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is if I create some space.

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But interestingly, there was a movement.

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I was working on manifestation principles privately.

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still be funded.

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I was offered a redundancy, which was really unexpected and out of the blue.

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Because that was the thing that was holding me back.

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I was paying off Pound Sterling.

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I was well paid.

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I had a lot of choice.

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that that would change.

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And especially my financial commitments, really.

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But I was offered a redundancy.

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And that enabled two more years in London, really diving

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into the esoteric scene and finding teachers, really.

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That's what I needed.

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I was sort of slashing my way through the spiritual jungle on my own.

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into understanding my mind, understanding the energy body.

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I tended towards yogic philosophy.

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It made sense to me.

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Pranayama, yoga asana, all of these beautiful ancient practices

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are all around mastery of the mind through the body

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and preparation for meditation.

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And then I moved back to Australia.

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And I found my first and enduring teacher, Louise Gilmore.

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She's still my mentor.

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And she started really teaching me the tin tacks of meditation.

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And then I went on with her to qualify as a meditation teacher.

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And that's when it all really sort of kick started.

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And that's how I teach.

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So my understanding of understanding the spiritual aspect,

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being able to perceive vital life force and energy

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and opening your perception to more subtle information, which

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is available to all of us, which we might call intuition,

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and then further out, psychic awareness,

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it's got to start with some form of mastery of your mind.

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I just taught what I was mastering myself,

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which I think is really key in the spiritual industry.

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is teaching from theory rather than authentic mastery.

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So I'm quite big on that.

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So I only teach what I know and practice.

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So that's kind of how it happened.

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And then it evolved.

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It evolved into energy healing.

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It evolved into I still really love going back into corporates.

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So a large part of my work is running workshops,

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doing keynote talks and things for corporates,

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for groups of leaders in employee programs, which I love.

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And I think because I understand that world,

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I can translate what I teach into a language which is absorbable

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and which is useful in a corporate context.

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But I also hold psychic development circles.

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I'm an Asui Reiki master.

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And I teach.

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I'm a master teacher, so I teach other people

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the art of Reiki and intuitively reading and coaching clients

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in a healing context.

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And it continues to evolve.

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So I'm now working in the arena of psychic mediumship,

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which I know you want to talk about today.

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Yeah, I definitely want to talk about.

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So that's what I love about spiritual inquiry

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and about understanding consciousness in the mind

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is there's no end.

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You never really arrive.

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And I find that super exciting.

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Well, you say you never really arrive.

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I am curious to how you arrived in Asia because generally,

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and again, I'm making a big swath generalization here,

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the Asian culture isn't as open to some of the very woo-woo ideas

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that, for example, you go into a predominantly Asian

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corporation.

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And you're like, hey, we're here to talk about energy healing

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and aligning your chakras and whatever.

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I don't feel like Asia is the starting point for that reception.

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How did you get here?

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And how have you been able to make inroads into this culture?

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Yeah, OK, it's a good question.

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But I challenge that view.

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So a lot of the, what's the word, the technology,

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if you like, in what I teach comes from Southeast Asia.

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So mudra, mantra, an understanding

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of the meridians in the body, an understanding

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of vital life force.

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A lot of the smarts from that was developed

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through the ancient Southeast Asian cultures,

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and of course, India as well.

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And so I think there is an openness

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to understanding holistic measures for well-being.

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which is a massive industry here.

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It's massive.

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I think there is an understanding of, let's just say, energy.

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And that provides a curiosity, I think.

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But I would say, so I first came here with my husband's work.

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And I had planned to be a full 100% full-time ex-pat wife.

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I was going to learn mahjong.

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I'm going to do lots of yoga.

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I'm going to go out for lots of lovely lunches with Rosé.

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And I gave it a good shot for about a month.

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And I was like, I can't do it.

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And I think this is a common experience.

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You've got someone looking after your household,

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which is just divine.

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Even still, 10 years later, I'm still going,

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my sheets are getting changed today.

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It is such a privilege to live here with that setup.

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My husband hit the ground running.

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We moved here because he traveled.

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He had a global responsibility, so being in the middle.

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But it meant he was off.

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And the kids just hit the ground running.

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So I was sort of left going, OK, here's an opportunity now.

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I was hesitant to start teaching meditation here,

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given that what I was teaching came from Asia mainly.

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But what I found when I first arrived here 10 years ago

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was that there wasn't a big spectrum of offerings

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in modern spiritual exploration.

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So you either would go to a Buddhist temple,

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which is what I ended up doing.

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So I'm not a practicing Buddhist,

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but I love the discipline of Buddhist meditation.

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And I couldn't find anything that I vibed with.

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So it was either you went back into a religious structure

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that had meditation and introspection

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as part of the modality, or you joined what

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appeared to be, when I first arrived here,

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very private, quite closed communities with a head guru,

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which I'm always a bit ee, and super expensive.

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And I was like, what's in the middle?

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And I also really like neuroscience.

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I like to know what's happening in my body.

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I can feel the shifts that are happening when I meditate,

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when I do certain practices, when I work with mantra

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or mudra, when I do yoga or asana.

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I can feel the benefit.

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But what's actually happening?

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And that's sort of how my mind is.

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There wasn't anything there that mixed a bit of psychology,

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a bit of neuroscience, and a bit of ancient practice.

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And so that's what I started to teach.

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And it just went off.

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So I felt like I was, in my own exploration,

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I found my niche.

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I was going to ask, actually, if you

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needed to be religious to get into this spirituality mode.

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Because there's always this, I guess, I don't know,

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perception that you're either religious or spiritual

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or agnostic.

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Is there a connection?

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Yeah, look, and it is a bit murky and blurry.

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And I think, as well, particularly in Southeast Asia,

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there is this tradition of having a guru, which

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is similar, I guess, to a priest,

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where there is some form of agency between you

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and the divine, or you and your higher self, or the god

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that you know, whatever you want to call it.

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This, I feel, is very disempowering.

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And so what I like to teach is you are what

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it is that you're seeking.

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I love that.

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And if you understand, in a more expansive way,

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the operation of consciousness, your mind-body connection,

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how energy is perceivable and how it works.

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And if you can start to understand

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that your experiential life and your inner life

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are actually one and the same thing,

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and this is sort of what I teach,

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then you have no requirement for a third party or a broker

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to the divine.

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And but there are some things that

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do happen in deep states of meditation,

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and also what I observe in spiritual community, which

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are bordering on supernatural in feeling,

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only because they're new experiences.

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And some people would equate that to a religious experience.

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of meditation, the part of our brain

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that allows us to gauge past, present, and future

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and where we sit within that, and also

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is the part of our brain which is attributed

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to the inner critic, which is the risk

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assessment part of the brain, goes

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into a state called temporary hypofrontality, which

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means it just temporarily shuts down.

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is that what John Kabat-Zinn describes

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is we're plunged into the deep now.

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So that dissipation to the future

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and what's going to happen and what should happen

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and what haven't I done and nuh-uh-uh,

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which women know very well, and that dissipation

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into the past, what I could have done,

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what would have happened, what should have happened,

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or what I could have done better, that rumination,

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that shuts down.

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And all of a sudden, our awareness

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snapped into a very acute sense of presence and self.

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And for some people, that feels like a spiritual experience.

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And also the shutdown of the inner script.

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And it goes very quiet.

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And all of a sudden, you get a different sense

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of self and awareness.

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And a lot of people attribute that

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to a spiritual awakening or a spiritual experience.

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Now, I would guess that they're one and the same thing.

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What I'm talking about is what happens in the brain,

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but it facilitates what some people might say

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is a religious experience.

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The other thing with the blurry line with religion as well

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is a lot of the smarts on meditation, on contemplation,

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on exploring the mystery of life come from religions.

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But these frameworks do not necessarily

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require you to subscribe to a particular form of a deity

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or a particular form of dogma.

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And that's what I do.

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So I like to extract the modalities and the principles

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as well and some of the perspectives on consciousness

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and mind and what it is to be human,

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but without the requirement to subscribe to a god or a dogma.

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And I think that's what, and certainly

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what I'm experiencing in my business and my community,

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is that's what people are seeking.

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So you were raised in a Catholic family as well as I was.

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And I loved it.

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I loved the prayer.

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I loved the church.

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I loved the devotion.

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I loved the song.

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I loved the consistency, the routine,

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knowing what was coming next.

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Absolutely, the repetition and the community.

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Now, yet, like many of us, when the systemic abuse that

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was within the church came to light,

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it was very difficult for us to subscribe to the system.

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Yet there were many elements of the system.

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Also, the other things, the sacraments, the ritual.

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So these things are inherently human.

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Ritual, marking the initiations of life.

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Devotional, blissful prayer.

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Leaning into feelings of deep gratitude and awe and wonder.

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These don't belong to any one religion.

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These are innately higher resonances of the human heart.

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And so I'm grateful for my religious upbringing

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because it opened me to these ideas

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where I could easily experiment with them

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without having to step through the skeptical doorway.

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But I'm not that I prefer to mainline.

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Mainline, but divine.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, hook me up.

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I don't believe we are designed to require an agency

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to our spirituality or a broker.

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Are you in situations where you have to talk to these brokers?

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Meaning, have you been in conversations with religious leaders?

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With religious leaders?

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I have a number of religious leaders who are my private clients.

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Wow.

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Interesting.

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So and also, of course, we're talking about a spectrum of people.

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So not everyone who's a religious leader is dogmatic.

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And so obviously, the people who come to me that do run communities

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or run churches are open to energy healing and so on.

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And I do think there is, in all of the traditions,

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in the progressive arms of them, there is an acknowledgment

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that one way isn't the only way now.

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And I think that's good.

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I think we can learn through these different modalities,

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these different refractions of what we might call the divine

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or spirit or the non-tangible.

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And of course, we're seeing a huge rise in popularity of Western

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seekers into the indigenous arts of shamanism, plant ceremony,

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and some of the beautiful wisdom that comes from non-dogmatic.

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You could say they've quite strict frameworks

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in some of the different locations of shamanism,

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but they're non-dogmatic and dogmatic and they accept all.

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And so there's a lot of people I know that are going to find teachers.

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A lot of people come to me to tap my teachers in shamanism as well.

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So I think this is the privilege of the age that we're in.

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We've got access to everything.

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Beautiful books, beautiful scripture, beautiful teachers,

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new modern day mystics and the mystics of history.

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But we can access it and thanks to the internet,

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which of course you do need to be very discerning about what you're getting into.

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And so there is this blending which is happening,

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which doesn't necessarily require you to sign up or bow to anyone.

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Exactly, or pay money.

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Or pay money.

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That was always one that bothered me.

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It was like, I have to get money out of my pocket to be in this community.

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Yeah, it's interesting.

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But I agree with you and some of them are crazy.

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But the idea of giving alms, which is very, very old, by the way,

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and you see it in sort of Middle Eastern culture in religions,

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and you see it in Islam, you see it in Judaism, you see it in Christianity.

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But there's sort of the exoteric understanding of that,

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which is like you're buying favour.

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But there's an esoteric understanding of that, which is around the law of abundance.

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So I find that really interesting that a lot of this sort of dogmatic rules

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and societal side of most religions, and then there's a mystical esoteric side.

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And that's usually where religions come from initially.

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And so there is this idea of to understand abundance

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and to generate abundance in your life.

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It's a flow.

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And so to give is to receive.

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And to release attachment to abundance and allow it,

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it creates a flow principle in your life.

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And I certainly live by that.

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So I give a large part of my business revenue away.

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And I have done ever since I've been in business.

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But I see the principle in action.

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So the day that I release the monthly funds from the charity circles

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and things that I do, I have an influx of bookings.

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There's definitely a relationship.

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I've seen it every I see it every month.

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So I agree with the you've got to pay money to buy a ticket to heaven

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or you've got to offer exclusive membership in this cult or whatever it is.

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I don't agree with that.

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But there is an esoteric principle under most of those things that we don't like,

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which is we lose. We've lost them.

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So that's one example.

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And I think that's a very everything.

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I love your tagline about de-woofing.

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Like, let's bring spirituality, spirituality back to something that feels familiar

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and accessible and exactly what you said, something that we can all kind of take part in

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because it is us. Absolutely.

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And I think that is a message that is not yet flooded the mainstream,

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which is that it doesn't have to be accessed through a person or a practice or,

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you know, anything like that, that it's within us already.

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Now, that being said, let's talk about something super wooey,

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which is the idea of psychic mediumship. Right.

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So, OK, so now, you know, it's like, OK, if we can accept that there is a flow energy

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and something that we're all part of as human beings,

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how do we transition that into understanding what a psychic does?

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And, you know, again, obviously against the media backdrop of what a psychic is.

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Yeah. OK, OK. So so psychic mediumship.

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So I I have to preface this by saying

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I'm definitely still developing this case.

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So what's the I've been working as a psychic for years.

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Now, what a psychic is, is I believe we're all psychic for a start.

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And I quite like the yogic view of our senses.

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So we know that we've got bodily senses like our sight, our hearing,

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our touch, our taste and so on.

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But this is just one end of the of a pole, a sensory pole.

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So where we have mundane sight, if you like, through our eyeballs,

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we also have clairvoyance where we have we can hear things through our ears.

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We also have clairaudience.

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So and the two arms of this pole is there's one that's body based.

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And then if you if we slide up the pole, we'll get to intero senses.

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So and all of you, all of us have experienced it.

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So this is where your body will signal usually a threat

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or you we were talking about pregnancy before we came on.

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Right. You know, when you're pregnant and you're a ceases,

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your senses are peaked.

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So you're aware when you're in the company of someone, if it's safe or not.

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I remember when I was first pregnant, I'd go outside my kitchen door

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and I could smell if an animal had been there the night.

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Your sense of smell gets super peaky.

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So your body is able to perceive information

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that your mundane senses can't necessarily.

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So that's the form of intuition, but it's body based intuition.

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Now, if you move further up the scale and all of us have these experiences,

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but because they're difficult to measure

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and a bit difficult to explain causality of,

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we tend to dismiss them.

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All of us have thought of that girlfriend or that person,

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and then we've heard from them and or we've learned

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that something's going down in their life.

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We've all had it.

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We've all had a dream which has come with a particular feeling

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which has remained with us.

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And then something, an event or something has gone down

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either in our lives or in the media.

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And you're going, you know, I felt that.

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All of us can feel shifts in movements of the moon.

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You know, men and women can.

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We're directly affected by the lunar cycle.

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So the whole planet is.

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This is intuition.

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So this is where you're still getting information flagged to your awareness,

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but it's definitely not coming from your body.

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It's coming from an aspect of your mind, of your consciousness.

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And then I would say right up the other end of the scale,

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your psychic senses.

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And these can be cultivated.

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So this is where you can initiate perceiving non-obvious information at will.

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Interesting. OK.

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So and this is where a client will come to me

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and we will do a Reiki sort of session.

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And with that amplified energy flow,

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I will be able to read potentialities that are very close to happening in their life.

502
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,720
And I love it because they will all get the message,

503
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,360
the job came through.

504
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:04,360
Oh, wow.

505
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,960
Or, yes, I've tested. I'm pregnant.

506
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,960
Yeah.

507
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,920
Or and but it's not that I'm plucking this out of the air.

508
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:18,920
It's just that I'm operating at a finer, more subtle degree of that sensory pole.

509
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,120
So and I teach psychic development and that's super fun

510
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:26,400
because women come in, mainly women, not surprisingly.

511
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,920
And they will do an exercise and they will accurately read a partner

512
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,560
that they've only just met and they'll accurately read whatever the exercise.

513
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,800
And they're going, I can do this.

514
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520
They were all doing it all the time.

515
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,920
It's just that we're very dissipated.

516
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Now, what started happening with me in my healing sessions,

517
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,720
I started perceiving very, very accurate information about the client,

518
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
but it had a very different energy to it.

519
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,000
So the way that I would say is if I'm if I'm picking up psychic information,

520
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,320
for me, it feels it's a little bit duller and it's a little bit like reading a book.

521
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,320
OK, interesting.

522
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,120
I started getting information about the client that felt like it was alive.

523
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,920
I knew it was different.

524
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,920
Wow.

525
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,120
And also the accuracy of it was way sharper.

526
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Yeah.

527
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,720
So and and I felt it wasn't like I didn't see someone in spirit next to me.

528
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,720
It was the voltage of the psychic information I knew was different.

529
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,720
And then when I would start to relay it to my clients after the session,

530
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,520
they would say that that's what my grandmother used to say,

531
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,320
or that was what my mom used to say.

532
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,520
And I started to make the connection that this information was directly related

533
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,120
to their loved ones in spirit.

534
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,120
Yeah.

535
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,520
I then thought, well, it's happening anyway.

536
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,920
I'm going to I'm going to find someone who can teach me how to do it.

537
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720
And so and that's how I found it.

538
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,120
And this is the mediumship.

539
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,720
So now this is the difference between just psychic and psychic mediumship.

540
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Exactly.

541
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,720
OK.

542
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,520
So and but I do think because we're all psychic, we're all able to do this as well.

543
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,520
But you need to have a bit of mastery over your psychic senses.

544
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,120
And I think I just hit that tipping point because I've been working as a psychic for

545
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520
and I was confident in it.

546
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:22,120
So that's how I found my Christine Morgan, who's coming here next week.

547
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,120
OK.

548
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,320
And I've been in a weekly tutoring sort of Zoom call with her with other working

549
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,520
psychic mediums for about three years now.

550
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,520
I don't miss it.

551
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,520
I love it.

552
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Yeah.

553
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,920
And I joke, you know, that I start every week on Monday morning talking to dead people.

554
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,520
What the difference is with Western mediumship, which is what I love, which really appeals

555
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,320
to my interrogative mind, is that it has to be evidenced.

556
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,640
So it's nothing like what you might see in some circles where someone is like channeling

557
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Archangel Michael or something like that, which, you know, a lot of people love.

558
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320
But I'm sitting there going, well, how do we know it is?

559
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Yeah.

560
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,000
You know, whereas Western psychic mediumship is the information has to be evidenced.

561
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240
And so I held a circle last night.

562
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,240
So I hold a monthly circle called The New Moon Lodge.

563
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,360
I've been doing it for 10 years every month in Singapore, unless I'm travelling.

564
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,040
I used to run them myself, the women's circles, and I used to run them myself.

565
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,520
And now I get occasionally I'll get people in to do it, who's an expert in some kind

566
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,880
of spiritual field.

567
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560
And last night we held a mediumship demonstration.

568
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,360
So I did it alongside a beautiful medium here.

569
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
She's a Japanese medium called Hitomi Sano.

570
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,320
And her speciality is trance mediumship.

571
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,320
And this is where she is able, we had a demonstration of it last night.

572
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,160
It's incredible, where she's able to alter her brainwave patterning at will from a beta

573
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,720
brainwave through to alpha and through to a theta wave.

574
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:05,000
And once she hits the theta wave, she is able to bring through information from the spirit

575
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,960
realm, which is relevant to people in the circle.

576
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,960
Wow.

577
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,960
I know.

578
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,200
And she's really humble.

579
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,200
And she's really, really good at it.

580
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,360
And so she did that.

581
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,800
So that's one form of mediumship.

582
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,720
And afterwards we had a share and we said, OK, hands up.

583
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,240
There were about four different messages.

584
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Who's got that?

585
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Who's got that?

586
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,920
One of them was around a disconnect in family and how you feel you're being unseen, but

587
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,200
you feel the impulse to keep loving and giving.

588
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000
And it was an affirmation, keep doing it.

589
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,840
And we said, we opened it up and said, who's got that going on at the moment currently

590
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,280
in their family?

591
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Five hands went up.

592
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,280
Wow.

593
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200
And so it was almost like she could read multiple messages.

594
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,200
Yeah.

595
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:58,120
So the spirit realm was touching her mind once she got it into a receptive state.

596
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:04,480
So the loved ones in spirit of the people that they were delivering a message through

597
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:13,120
her mind and what her job was to get it into a theta brainwave state so she could perceive

598
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,480
it.

599
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,960
And then it was my turn.

600
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,120
And so what I do is psychic evidential mediumship.

601
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,120
So I don't go into trance.

602
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,200
It's quite the opposite.

603
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,720
We had to put on some music.

604
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,400
We had to lift the energy.

605
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:32,120
And then I bring through people in spirit specifically for individuals in the audience.

606
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,080
And do they approach you with questions first or is it more?

607
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,120
So you can't determine who in the spirit realm is going to come through.

608
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,120
OK.

609
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,920
So but what you can determine is very specifically who it is.

610
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,400
And so the first thing that happens is I will and the reason why I've moved into mediumship

611
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,720
from talking about psychic work is that's how the spirit realm communicates to us.

612
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,520
It's in our mind.

613
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,560
And so you need to have some mastery of your mind to know is this am I thinking this?

614
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,600
Am I picking it up psychically or is this actually a living mind that's communicating

615
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,600
to me?

616
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,280
That's what I love about evidential mediumship.

617
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,280
We first of all had a mother come through.

618
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,480
The evidence that she showed was and it's really like I can't make it.

619
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:25,480
I can't possibly make it up like she showed growing bright red currents.

620
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,180
She showed that they used to collect them.

621
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:31,080
She showed that they lived in a very cold climate.

622
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,760
Immediately a woman put her hand up and she said I collected red currents with my mother.

623
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,960
When we lived in Scandinavia, it was always freezing.

624
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,480
And then so once we've got we know who it is and we've landed who they've come through

625
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,480
for that's when the messages come through.

626
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,120
What type of messages are generally like are people asking oh is this going to happen in

627
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,840
the future or is it more like we're okay you'll be safe?

628
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Like what sort of thing is?

629
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,200
It's just it's different for everybody.

630
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Like you know there were I mean for this mother that came through there was an apology.

631
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:13,040
There was a grandmother that came through who just was gorgeous and super kooky and

632
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,960
told us and confirmed with the lady in the circle how strict she was about setting the

633
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,520
table and like all of these things you know that are very very personal to the to the

634
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,520
receiver.

635
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,000
But she didn't have a message but all she was doing was evidencing that she's the

636
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,120
oh no she did have a message sorry.

637
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,040
This lady confirmed that her grandmother has come through before but not for two years.

638
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,720
And I thought there's a reason why she's coming through tonight.

639
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:45,080
So I sort of leaned back into grandma over on the other side and she was celebrating

640
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,880
her granddaughter and she was giving her flowers and I said she's celebrating you.

641
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,920
I said you've achieved something recently and she said I have.

642
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,200
And I said your grandmother's come through to say she knows that she acknowledges that

643
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,200
you're getting goosebumps.

644
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,840
I'm getting goosebumps right now.

645
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,360
We had a mother come through.

646
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:07,080
It was a beautiful evening and so and a lot of healing.

647
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
And so that's what psychic evidential mediumship is.

648
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,880
It's very very evidenced.

649
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,960
It's very clear who's coming through.

650
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,120
It's liberating because you really look come out of an experience like last night and what

651
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,480
we're doing next week but where you realize that our loved ones they don't die they're

652
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,480
not dead.

653
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,600
That is such a reassuring message.

654
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,600
It's huge.

655
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:34,920
Because to circle back to the role of religion that when I left my religion that was one

656
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,720
of the hardest things for me is that I left the idea of heaven.

657
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,720
And I left the idea that my loved ones were guardian angels looking out for me.

658
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,560
And it was just it felt so I felt so alone.

659
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,560
Yeah.

660
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,560
All of a sudden.

661
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Yeah.

662
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,520
You sort of disconnected from the continuum of life you know.

663
00:36:53,520 --> 00:37:01,040
And I think what's really cool about psychic evidential mediumship too is that the people

664
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,480
that come through my sessions and when I do I'm just new to demonstrating so I still get

665
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,480
super nervous.

666
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,320
Because when I do a keynote talk or something for corporates I know what I'm saying.

667
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,840
I know about speak smarts.

668
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,840
I know about stress management.

669
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,840
You've got the book.

670
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,840
I've got the book.

671
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,840
I've got the podcast.

672
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,840
I know what I'm doing.

673
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,960
But when you're working with the spirit realm it's not up to you.

674
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,960
You know all you can do is move your mind in the way that you've been trained to do

675
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,640
and kind of hope for the best.

676
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,400
You know but they always come through.

677
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,880
But what I love about what they bring through is it's not just memory which evidences who

678
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
they are which they do do initially.

679
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,520
But they always bring through information that shows that they're still participating

680
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,400
in our lives now.

681
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,760
Like they're around us.

682
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,840
It's not like so my understanding of heaven has changed.

683
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,720
It's not this sort of out there summer lands place where the ancestors go which is really

684
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:57,960
far away from here.

685
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,280
It's not.

686
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:07,920
I think the spirit realm is actually interpenetrates our world and they are very aware of what's

687
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,160
going on because they're participating in our thoughts.

688
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,360
I had a beautiful client yesterday, gorgeous client and it was a busy session.

689
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,280
She had a lot of loved ones in spirit so an ex-boyfriend came through, her uncle came

690
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,760
through and then her grandfather came through and then her grandmother came through because

691
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,400
they were together.

692
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:36,200
And her question to her grandmother after we knew who it was was I'm worried about,

693
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,800
no, well she worried about her kids.

694
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
It was something to do with her own children now.

695
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,880
And I didn't know this woman had children.

696
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Her grandmother showed me she had two boys, a little girl and another little boy.

697
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,880
She showed me, she told me like the characters of each of them.

698
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,000
She told me the sensitivities of each of them and she reaffirmed her granddaughter that

699
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600
she's doing an awesome job.

700
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,200
So the combination of that information that only her grandmother knew, I couldn't possibly

701
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,720
know that, the correct calling on the genders of the children, the ages of the children,

702
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:17,000
the sequencing of the children and what they're going through now, combined with an affirmation,

703
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,920
that woman walked out of there back in the saddle, I'm a good mom, I know what I'm doing.

704
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,480
So it's really healing.

705
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,480
Yeah.

706
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:29,740
And that was one of my main questions for you was how do you work with women to self-heal?

707
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:35,180
Because I think spirituality is often the bridge between some of the kind of problems

708
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:39,720
of our modern life and the ability to move on and move forward.

709
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:40,720
Yep.

710
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,560
Well, again, it's very, very varied.

711
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:50,240
So in terms of my offering, there's a combination of energy healing and Reiki is the modality

712
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:53,440
that I love.

713
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,080
And I usually combine that with some coaching and then what I call some spirit homework.

714
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,120
I love it.

715
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:07,440
But I also do work with, I collaborate with a number of psychotherapists and psychologists

716
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,160
as well, because there's lots of different ways we can heal.

717
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,000
And where the energy healing can kind of cut some slack.

718
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,420
So if a woman comes in, she's got a highly dysregulated nervous system, and maybe symptoms

719
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:27,080
of anxiety, which she hasn't felt since her 20s have re-emerged, let's say, okay.

720
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,380
The Reiki is very good at calming all of that down, but not forever.

721
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:38,520
She needs to start to address what's underneath that, which is creating her body's requirement

722
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,540
to message more strongly.

723
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:46,280
And so that's one of the biggest things that I start with, with women, men, anyone who

724
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,340
come to see me is that actually there's nothing wrong here.

725
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:51,660
Nothing's broken.

726
00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:52,660
Nothing's wrong.

727
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:57,680
You're getting very strong messaging from your system that there are things that maybe

728
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,560
you haven't looked at, you haven't addressed, and now it's time.

729
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,900
And that's healing in itself.

730
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:08,400
And then there's a whole raft of different things that we can go to.

731
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Sorry, Jasmine.

732
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,000
I know, I was going to say, so for people who aren't really aware of what Reiki is,

733
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,120
can you just sort of break it down and explain what it is and what it can do for you?

734
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,120
Yeah, okay, thank you.

735
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,120
Yes.

736
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,020
So you assume so much when you do.

737
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:25,440
So Reiki is a Japanese energy healing modality.

738
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,900
It was formulated by a master, Sui, around the 1900s, which is a relatively recent sort

739
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:38,460
of formulation of the modality that comes from particularly Asia.

740
00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:42,400
But it's based in much older Taoist energy principles.

741
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,520
So there is a lineage to it.

742
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:52,280
But the form of Reiki that Reiki practitioners use today is a relatively recent formulation.

743
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Reiki is two words.

744
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,880
Re means universal and gi means energy.

745
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:05,220
So principally what Reiki is, is a pure form of universal life force.

746
00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:09,920
It doesn't come from the Reiki practitioner, it comes through them.

747
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,960
So a large part of your training and attunement as a Reiki practitioner is to get yourself

748
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,600
out of the way.

749
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,700
We have to practice non-attachment.

750
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:26,640
And this is paradox, but as soon as you're not attached to a result, you see amazing

751
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
results, but you have to be non-attached.

752
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,520
That's true of life though, isn't it?

753
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,520
And then you need to develop the art of perceiving and building and directing energy, which you

754
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,560
can learn.

755
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,880
And it's explained as an osmotic force.

756
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,680
And we know that vital life force is intelligent.

757
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,120
I mean, we've made babies and we've held the space, which is kind of what a Reiki practitioner

758
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,120
does.

759
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,360
They hold the space and the combination of life force and that incredible programming

760
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,800
of our DNA will make a human being.

761
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,680
And Reiki is similar in that it's an osmotic force.

762
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:12,960
So even though we are moving the energy through a set of hand positions across the energy

763
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,420
body of the client, they'll be lying on a bed.

764
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:21,000
And there are some other healing techniques with Reiki where they can be seated and so

765
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,520
on, but principally they're lying on a bed.

766
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,520
And I make it really nice.

767
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,520
I've got music, I've got the full stand.

768
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,160
Danny's bad ears, you know, top notch.

769
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,600
Exactly, because they come in really fried from life, right?

770
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,880
And I want them just to go, okay, in this session, it's just for you, I say that.

771
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,840
And you've got to help them disconnect from, right, I've got to pick up the bananas on

772
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,280
the way home and I haven't done my tax return.

773
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,800
You've got to help them disconnect from that.

774
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,440
But I want them to be fully receptive to what's possible in the session.

775
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,760
So I make it really juicy and lovely.

776
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:59,260
But very often they will have an experience where I may be touch, I like to touch, I ask

777
00:43:59,260 --> 00:44:02,480
permission to touch, but not you don't have to touch with Reiki.

778
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,080
You can hover close.

779
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,800
I like to touch because it helps me with the psychic read as well.

780
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,440
And I think people need touch.

781
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,560
I touch a lot of people and I can feel their body going, oh, that like, you know, often

782
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,480
their spirit homework will be massage every week.

783
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Oh, I love that one.

784
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,480
I want that to work.

785
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000
You need to ground, you know, you need to ground your system.

786
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,800
You need touch, you know.

787
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,280
Anyway, but they'll have the experience where I might be touching their head.

788
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,360
They will have a very palpable experience of hands touching their stomach.

789
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Wow.

790
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,360
Interesting.

791
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,000
Now, I do work with a team, if you like, but I don't think it's that.

792
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:47,440
I think it's them perceiving where the intelligence of Reiki is flowing to where the area is that

793
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,440
needs the healing.

794
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,440
Yeah.

795
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,440
It's cool.

796
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,440
So it's like a signal, like you might be touching the head, but if they feel it in their stomach,

797
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,920
there's a blockage or something like that in that area.

798
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,120
And there are a lot of correspondent meanings to the different centers in the body, which

799
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640
is part of the training.

800
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:11,640
So if it's the stomach, for example, we know that the chakra around the stomach is responsible

801
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,480
for self-confidence, putting your volition into action.

802
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,600
If you're dissipating life force to a situation or to a person because you're buying into

803
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,920
something which isn't aligned with you, it's all around your personal power, basically.

804
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,640
Or if you're procrastinating on something and you're not putting something into action,

805
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,640
it'll go there.

806
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:41,400
So there are correspondent meanings and also organs and micro systems within the body to

807
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,000
each of the energy centers.

808
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,960
So a good energy practitioner will know those correspondences, and that's where the coaching

809
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,560
comes in.

810
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,160
But the Reiki will shoot straight to where it's needed.

811
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,760
I have undergone Reiki treatment exactly one time.

812
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,400
I was 24 years old.

813
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,360
I didn't tell the practitioner why I was there.

814
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,040
But the reason I was there is because my menses had disappeared.

815
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,440
I just lost my period for eight months, seven months.

816
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,400
None of the doctors could tell me what it was.

817
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
I wasn't a menoretic from weight or sport.

818
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,000
I was going to ask, was it sport?

819
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,000
Not sport related.

820
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,000
This is 22.

821
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,160
So I was like 22 to 24.

822
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,680
So I was later in life.

823
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200
This wasn't like when I was a kid.

824
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,080
And I didn't tell the practitioner why I went in there.

825
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,400
But that was really why I went in there.

826
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,520
It was like, is something wrong with me?

827
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Is something blocked that's not allowing this to happen?

828
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:34,160
And exactly what you're describing, she was touching my head and I felt like a clearing

829
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,160
in my womb.

830
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,840
And I know that sounds potentially ridiculous.

831
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,360
But I felt it.

832
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,680
And I knew the day after that session, I was going to get my period.

833
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,680
I knew it.

834
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,800
I knew that whatever she had done somehow by touching my head had cleared what was wrong.

835
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,920
And we didn't, she didn't really speak to me.

836
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,680
You know, it wasn't like a conversational session.

837
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,920
It was just the energy healing.

838
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880
And then I went on my merry way.

839
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,200
And the next day I had my period.

840
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,800
And I've never ever had a dysregulated menstrual cycle since that time.

841
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,640
And it's the one experience I have with Reiki.

842
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,600
And obviously it's very instrumental for me.

843
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,320
So that's why it's such a good one.

844
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,800
But isn't that when you describe what happened there, I said, that's exactly my experience

845
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,800
with Reiki.

846
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,800
It's almost uncanny.

847
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,800
Yeah, it is.

848
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560
And it's, it's very cool.

849
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,720
And I like to do a little bit of coaching afterwards, but it's not necessary.

850
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:25,720
Yeah.

851
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:28,720
And maybe I couldn't afford it at the time.

852
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,920
It was like a Groupon Reiki session.

853
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Yeah, but I think, yeah, honestly, honestly, it was, you know, I've had spontaneous bleeds

854
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,480
on the bed, you know, as well.

855
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Yes, I could see that.

856
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,960
There's, you know, the correspondences to the sacral, they're, you know, a very deep

857
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,800
and very beautiful, but we women particularly hold shame there.

858
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,480
There's all sorts of stuff there.

859
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:59,320
And, and a good psychic practitioner will be able to pick that up, which can be useful

860
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,320
if there's a bit of denial or a blind spot around it or a bit of fear of going there,

861
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:10,640
because even just the psychic perception of the, of the issue being told back to you is

862
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,200
enough to disrupt your pattern.

863
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,200
Yeah.

864
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,360
And that's good because that gets things moving, right.

865
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,600
But yeah, the energy will go there and also, but if you think about it, like, we are an

866
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,200
expression of vital life force, you know, we are an organisation of information and

867
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200
energy.

868
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200
That's what we are.

869
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,040
And that's what keeps all our little cells going.

870
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:40,520
And within that programming of being human is the program to be well and evolve.

871
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:47,200
And so if there's a distortion in that program, either, and that distortion can come from

872
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,240
lots of different things.

873
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:52,240
It can be environmental, like we might be just eating crap, you know, or we might be

874
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,600
drinking too much or we might have habits.

875
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,640
It can be fear.

876
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:02,760
It can be a belief system that we're buying into, which creates a distortion in that organisation

877
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,860
of information.

878
00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:10,600
And it will eventually, it will, the system will signal loudly, loudly and more and more

879
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,200
loudly to you to take a look at it.

880
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,680
It's trying to get your awareness.

881
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:21,240
So through a Reiki practitioner, but other energy modalities as well, if you put a wave

882
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:27,720
of that intelligent, pure, vital life force through a system, it will knock out the distortion

883
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:29,240
and that's what's happening really.

884
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240
Yeah.

885
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240
So fascinating.

886
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240
It's cool.

887
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,920
I think it's interesting because I think, you know, people look at it from, it's like

888
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,560
either a spiritual element or it's a scientific thing.

889
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,920
But I think there was a, well, there was almost like a scientific proof that when someone

890
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,240
dies, their body is like a slightly bit lighter.

891
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:53,000
It's almost like they're saying that your soul or, you know, the energy is leaving the

892
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000
body.

893
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Yeah.

894
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Yeah.

895
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,000
I wish I can remember that statistic now.

896
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000
Yeah, I can't remember.

897
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,000
That's measurable.

898
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,000
We'll put it in the show notes.

899
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Yeah, we'll put it in the show notes.

900
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Yeah.

901
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:11,440
But I'm really fascinated by the stories and recounting of near death experiences.

902
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Oh yeah.

903
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,520
So this is where someone dies on the operating table, but then they're revived.

904
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:23,200
But they have a very conscious, lucid experience when they're clinically dead and brain dead

905
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,160
and they bring that back.

906
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:33,280
And that attests to what you just said, Jasmine, that our consciousness does move from the

907
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:40,280
physical matter, you know, and so I guess you could say it's our pattern or organisation

908
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,920
of consciousness removes itself from the matter and just keeps on its merry way, you know.

909
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,720
And that's what I'm talking to in a mediumship demonstration.

910
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:50,720
Exactly.

911
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:54,920
It's so weird that you mention that because it's just reminded me, when my dad was younger,

912
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,440
he said he was, I don't know, was it like a go-kart or something?

913
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:04,360
He was on some kind of karts, car-y kind of thing and he had an accident.

914
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,160
And during that accident, he was told that he did die for, you know, a short period of

915
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,000
time and he said he was walking through these fields.

916
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,120
It was like the most beautiful field he's ever seen.

917
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,800
And he hears a voice saying, not now or it's not the right time.

918
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,080
And then he wakes up in the hospital.

919
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,080
And I mean, just telling the story now is giving me goosebumps.

920
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,160
I've completely forgotten about it until you just brought it up now.

921
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Yeah, it's amazing.

922
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:34,200
It's very common that where there's some kind of agreement that you made that, yeah,

923
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,600
and I'll be like, no, I want to stay in the summer landscape.

924
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,680
But then some people go back, you know, and very often they radically change their life.

925
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Yeah.

926
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,800
You know, they get another shot sort of thing.

927
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,080
But I mean, we've gone on a wild tangent to how I help women in their 40s.

928
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,640
Yeah, I would bring us back because we do have to wrap up.

929
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,400
I know we could be in here for hours.

930
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,640
We really could get some strong coffee in here.

931
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,440
We could be here for two days.

932
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,740
But exactly that, Danny, I would love to know what is your 40s formula?

933
00:52:05,740 --> 00:52:10,420
So if you could kind of take everything that you do, which is so much and kind of filter

934
00:52:10,420 --> 00:52:14,680
it down to what is the most important component for women in this decade to take away from

935
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,680
your work.

936
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,000
Yeah, yeah, I know.

937
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,440
When you sent me that question, I was like, man, that's quite hard to just say.

938
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,520
For someone like you, it has to be.

939
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,760
So I guess what I can really talk to is my own personal experience in my 40s all that

940
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,760
time ago.

941
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:38,920
The first one is, I think, is to really intentionally detach from the requirement for external validation.

942
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,280
You know, and I think for many of us, not everyone, but for most of us in our 20s and

943
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:52,640
our 30s, we're running a story of where we think we should be, you know, timelines.

944
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,080
We're exposed to a lot of shoulds.

945
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:02,080
What you should look like, how productive you should be, how perfect your children should

946
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,880
be, you know, how put together you should be.

947
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,080
And I do think you get to the 40s where you've been around the block enough where you realise

948
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,560
how unrealistic all of that is, first of all.

949
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:20,520
But also, you want a sense of liberation from being under the thumb of any other kind of

950
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,600
perspective or story.

951
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:29,340
So I think intentionally detaching, and the way that you do that is to look at your reactive

952
00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:34,720
responses to different events, different people, different conversations that you have, how

953
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:39,000
you respond to different content, and get super intentional about that.

954
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,320
What are you allowing into your life and into your mind?

955
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,580
And it's okay to say no.

956
00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:53,200
And it's okay to create a bit of space between yourself and people who you're not vibing

957
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,880
with or who are extracting energy from you.

958
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:57,880
It's okay.

959
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,400
So backing yourself, getting really intentional.

960
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:07,320
And then I would say, I see the 40s, it certainly was for me, even though I was obviously still

961
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,960
mothering and you're always mothering.

962
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:16,480
But as a bit of a transition too from, if I talk in archetypes, right, from sort of

963
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:23,680
warrior mother type archetype into queen crone type archetypes.

964
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:31,780
So I see the 40s as the start where we really leverage our wisdom and we really leverage

965
00:54:31,780 --> 00:54:33,720
our awareness.

966
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:40,160
And so for me, that has turned into a journey of fully exploring that.

967
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,600
And with great glee and joy.

968
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:51,960
And that has become my offering now, is the sharing of ideas and wisdom to help liberate

969
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,960
people and for them to live fully in the full spectrum, the full pole of what they're born

970
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:04,400
with, which is mind, energy, their beautiful body and all of its one and their spirit and

971
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,160
all of it is one system.

972
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Does that answer the question?

973
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,160
It answers it beautifully.

974
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,000
And when you said queen crone, I was thinking like Beyonce with flowing gray hair.

975
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Yes, yes, yes.

976
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,000
That is my future.

977
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Well, thank you so, so much for being here, Danny.

978
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,160
This is again, this conversation has been so given us so much to think about.

979
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I've been close to tears twice.

980
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So thanks for that.

981
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,400
I've got goosebumps.

982
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,000
So we really appreciate you taking the time to be here and hope to have you back on a

983
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future season.

984
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Thank you, ladies.

985
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,800
Thank you for asking me, even though I'm not in my 40s.

986
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,320
I really enjoyed the chat and I'm loving what you're doing with the podcast.

987
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,320
So keep going.

988
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,320
Keep going.

989
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,320
Thank you.

990
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,320
Thank you.

991
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,320
Thank you.

992
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,000
This is Paul, our editor.

993
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,000
He's a 25 year old unmarried Singaporean guy listening to the ramblings of 12 older women

994
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,760
on everything from menopause to weightlifting to sex.

995
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,560
So Paul, what's your thoughts on today's conversation?

996
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,800
Hey, what's up?

997
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,840
Paul here.

998
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:07,240
So for this topic of spirituality and intuition, yeah, I really like, you know, Danny, when

999
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you're going through early stages in life and I guess trying to find a quest for meaning

1000
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and dabbling.

1001
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So, you know, I thought I'd just share a bit about myself.

1002
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I'm a Protestant Christian and I guess I was trying to find meaning in life in my late

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teens and through my years of struggling.

1004
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,880
And for my case, my answer was true finding assurance that I guess I'm saving Jesus Christ.

1005
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,920
So it's a lot like a different approach and background from you, Danny.

1006
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,600
But you know, as such is with like spirituality, it's something that's really individualistic

1007
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,360
that only you yourself can go through like, you know, your own personal experiences and

1008
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,360
share them, I guess.

1009
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,960
Also, I really liked your quote when you, you know, at the end when you talked about

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00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,160
like intentionally detaching yourself from requirements for external validation from

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other people.

1012
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,640
So sort of like we're running a story where, you know, we're always like trying to figure

1013
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,280
out what should we do, like should we do this?

1014
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,280
Should we do that?

1015
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:04,720
You know, how productive we should be.

1016
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:07,760
And these are like very unrealistic expectations.

1017
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,680
And I agree, like it gives you like sort of like a sense of liberation from being under

1018
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:16,160
the time from other people's like stereotypical perspective of who you are, I guess.

1019
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,200
So yeah, you know, pretty cool.

1020
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Be who you are.

1021
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Catch you next time.

1022
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,200
See ya.

1023
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,200
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1026
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Cheers.

1027
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:42,420
Got a great review from user 1249039784 on episode five with Dr. Cheryl.

1028
00:57:42,420 --> 00:57:44,020
Just listen to the one about burnout.

1029
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:47,440
I really think everything she talks about also applies to men.

1030
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,600
Really interesting.

1031
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,000
So far, loving all the podcasts and have shared with many friends.

1032
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,720
Thanks for sharing our episodes.

1033
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,360
And definitely this is not just for women.

1034
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Men can take in exactly what we're saying and apply it to their life too.

1035
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,960
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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,360
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1048
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Bye.

1049
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,840
Amazing.

1050
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:20,840
Thank you so much.

1051
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:26,720
I'm so glad you brought up Krone by the way.

1052
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,800
Just, I mean, I know because your podcast is the modern Krone and we'll put the byline

1053
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,920
in the, in the show notes and everything, but I just feel like that word needs to come

1054
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,920
back.

1055
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,920
Yeah.

1056
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:36,920
Yeah.

1057
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:37,920
I think it's really well.

1058
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:44,360
It went through a big degradation with the inquisition and the burning times.

1059
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,160
So the word Krone, it's the entomology is the crowning.

1060
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,680
That's where it comes from.

1061
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,680
Kronos.

1062
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:58,600
And, but it was rebranded as the crazy insane woman who's hormones are out of control and,

1063
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,400
you know, and, and ugliness.

1064
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Yes.

1065
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,920
And it's not, it's actually when women peak.

1066
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:04,920
Yeah.

1067
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:05,920
Wow.

1068
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,800
You know, and we know that we feel that, right?

1069
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,800
Yeah.

1070
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:09,800
Yeah.

1071
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:10,800
So I, yeah, we'll, we can do something on Krone.

1072
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,800
Yeah, I would, exactly.

1073
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,800
I would love that.

1074
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,800
Yeah.

1075
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:14,800
Cause Danny's podcast is the modern Krone.

1076
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,800
Oh, wow.

1077
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,800
Yeah.

1078
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,800
Thanks guys.

1079
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,800
That was fun.